David Cross Interviews Maynard James Keenan | TOOL, Puscifer, Mr. Show, Bidets, Scientology & More
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2022
- In 1995, a band called Puscifer, featuring TOOL singer Maynard James Keenan, appeared on the debut episode of 'Mr. Show,' the beloved HBO sketch comedy series starring Bob Odenkirk and David Cross. Over 25 years later, Puscifer are going strong, about to kick off the theatrical art-rock troupe's first tour in six years (tix: bit.ly/3syVSvk). Cross, too, keeps on chugging: He recently released a new comedy special, 'I'm From the Future' (watch: bit.ly/3IASo0Y). Naturally, REVOLVER had to reunite the two, so we enlisted Cross to interview Keenan - and the results are just as weird, insightful and hilarious as we hoped.
Watch above and let us know what you think in the comments.
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Maynard was sick with the flu when I saw them in Houston. He kept stepping off stage to get sick into a make shift bucket and go back on stage. The man actually apologized to the crowd for having the flu! Blew my mind at his commitment to his performance. The crowd roared with appreciation and they proceeded to kill it as usual. He's a rare breed and amazing person.
That’s pretty great
@E.J man, I saw that happen as well, THREE concerts in a row.. Maynard did exactly the same thing twice, but the 2nd time, he grabbed his speaker during the long solo of "Descending" and microphone and carried it all the way to the other far left platform by dragging it down the stairs then up again with it, plugged it in just in time for the next segment started. I knew something wasn't right. The 1st and 3rd concerts they didn't play "7empest" either. They played, instead, an extended version of "Part Of Me" and he actually just went to the front of stage and screamed like he hasn't in 10 years. Then Stinkfist, and show over. Seriously, good on him for making such an effort. And yes, you're right. He is a rare breed and amazing person. Highly intelligent. If he quits music, he should run for president. No joke. But give him a 10 year break. You know he's never actually been an official member of Tool, don't you? Hence all these legal battles? He does what I do - which is being a session musician for hire.
Work ethic.
@@Parrish_Muhoberac omg I had no clue! What's up with the legal stuff?
Damn, he had the flu here in Berlin a few weeks back as well when I saw him. He must be getting sick a lot with the traveling.
Saw Tool in Pittsburgh last night. Incredible show. Loved Maynard’s comment after the first song - all the bs craziness occurring in the world, consuming our collective mentalities will be there after the show - but for the next 2 hours, immerse yourselves in the magic of Tool live. And we did!
The tool concert experience is unlike any other show. It's so fucking good
Saw them 02/27/22 Buffalo what a 2 hr escape
Great show I was there it was brilliant
Was in section 202 ppg paints arena
@@taKeoFF_Gtribe was in 104.
I love when Maynard gets interviewed by someone he knows well. You can tell he is more comfortable and himself
Imagine that: someone being more comfortable talking to someone they know
@@quallude1 well said Joshua well said 👏🏻
@@quallude1 I refuse to imagine exactly that, Joshua.
That interviewer guy is an actor. Only I don't remember where I've seen him. I know its a comedic thing tho. I'm at the point where they're talking about poo. Fascinating. Just had a convo w/ my brat about this recently. Maybe the older you get the more u poo. Or maybe that's our genetics or maybe not, idk. & on that note, im out. Although I'm sure Maynard has a fascinating head w/ dark turns here & there. Maybe sometimes even soothing. But maybe he doesn't always want to go there either, the darkness. If he really is ex military I guess that explains y he explores so much of ugly side of humanity
I can definitely agree to that
For those that don't know, they've known each other for almost as long as Tool has been a band. Maynard (and Adam/Ronnie Dobbs skit only) were on Mr. Show in a couple skits (Ronnie Dobbs, Coupon:The Movie, end credits) and were a fake band called "Puscifer" on the show before they (Puscifer) were actually a real band. And MJK was also in the Ronnie Dobbs movie "Run Ronnie Run."
So if they seem sarcastic with each other it's because they are old friends razzing each other and generally have the same type of humor. FYI
I fuckin loooove Ronnie Dobbs. Run Ronnie Run is a classic
As well, you probably remember that David Cross and David Yow (the Jesus Lizard), each did some humourous commentary for the Vicarious video! If memory serves me correct, i believe there's also an option to listen to both Davids commentaries, @the same time! 😂 That's some wacky, funny sh*t, imo!
@one point, I think David Yow says something like "Hey Maynard, get me a tequila & Gatorade!" 🥴🤢 😂
I think David Cross gives the creature (in the video) the name "Nervous Geoff"..& it just goes on from there..🤣🤣
Good stuff!
By all means, please correct me if I'm wrong..I'd rather have my facts straight lol. It's been a long time since I've seen it.
✌🌀
@@ltlt1219 Been a long time for me as well but I remember some of that too. Good to get to see these guys reconnect. So many cool connections of people back in the day, bet it was a riot to be in the room with all these great minds. So much talent and humor.
@@NooDLES411911 "Y'all are brutalizing me!" 😅 Classic for sure.
😐
The first time I heard tool I had 5 people in my Mom's volvo I was 16. I'll never forget my buddy Jessie popped that tape in and I was hooked. This was 1994 and I've been a fan ever since.
Maynard is such a wise and humble human...always love listening to him speak...
Very much the opposite of what mass of ppl think
I’ve gone back and forth with how I feel about Maynard over the years having watched a bunch of his interviews spanning these three or so decades.
At first I loved his communication style. Then I started thinking he’s a real cynical dickhead who’s aggressively standoffish with people. At this point, I think it’s a bit of both; that he has a really dry sense of humor, says some insightful stuff, but can be a dick and come off as self-important.
@@crescendo5594 He's earned the right to be self-important a trillion times over.
@@crescendo5594 I feel like most writers have to be a little self important and pretentious to believe their words are good, and important enough to be heard by millions of people, let alone want them to be. All artists are to a point, he might just be a little bit more then others. I agree it’s definitely a bit of both with him, a lot of people don’t know how to approach him, and I think he likes it that way.
He is the most genuine artist that has every lived he is so self aware.
I'm 35 years old and tool has been one of my favorite bands as long as I can remember into my childhood and now at 35 I've for some reason circled back around and tool has become my favorite band all over again! What an amazing group of musicians!
Welcome back!!
Finally an honest conversation with Maynard, with no pre-written bullshit questions. Well done David.
* Joe Rogan punching the air rn
Well the cool thing is that they've actually been friends a long time. Watch Mr. Show.
Christina Rowatt did a great interview not to long on here.... check it out
Dude the MJK and Rogan pod cast's were great, what drugs are you on?
@@makegaminggreatagain3907 🐴💊
How he is able to keep his shit together with 3 separate bands and still be healthy and keep his sanity, is a marvel in itself.
OzzFest 98'👊🏻
All because the intervention of scientology
@@jeroen1989 w h a t
I think he just arranged everything in the way so it's not work but mostly enjoyable. But that's just speculation
Methamphetamine is a hell of a drug...
By taking 10 years between albums.
I always think of the comedian David Cross when discussing the early 70’s lineup of King Crimson. ✌️
Fantastic violinist.
Nice. But for those who know of the musician, he’s probably in his 70’s by now.
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 Ahh. I was confused by that.
David & Maynard should make a weekly podcast. 👍🏼
Agreed! I love me some David Cross.
Agreed
I wouldn't wish an interview on any human. It's awkward
In all that copious free time they have? I mean, I'd watch/listen, but I think they both have enough on their plates.
Dude that would be so good they have great chemistry and similar humor for sure.
This was great. Love Maynard glad to see he's still going strong and living his best life. That man's music got me through many tough times.
This is one of the best interviews with Maynard we've ever had! The fact that him and David are long time friends made the whole thing just feel like a casual chat more than a formal interview.
It's always such a lovely thing to be able to get to peek behind the curtain on what Maynard does. Fantastic interview! 😅
Maynard’s dry humor and sarcasm is hilarious
The HIGHEST FORM OF HUMOR THAT EXISTS.
It’s me FAVORITE. 😍
Just saw TOOL in Buffalo.... beautifully crafted show! Top quality, 👏🏻 great seats on the side of the stage, was sad to leave at the end lol.
It really was!
Hey, same here, absolutely mind blowing
same here!!! so worth the 2 year wait
On the side of the stage aren’t great seats. They’re the worst seats in the house for a TOOL show. I’m glad you had fun though. I’ll be in Columbus this Sunday 😃
That is usually how it is!
I love that he doesn't hide his KISS fandom. I imagine the playing field on his pinball machine is in much better condition then mine.
Knights In Satans Service
He hates kiss. As should everyone.
@@shogun102000 they introduced me to whatver type of rock that was in the mid 70's glam/hardrock nowhewhere near metal imho. But! They provided mucho inspiration for some of your favorite musicians. Ever hear of Darryl Abbott? KISs was a jumping off point for a ton of killer groups...mudvayne? Slipknot? PANTERA ? Ghost? Cmon! Not everyone hates kiss.
Saw the second last Tool show on March 11 2020 in Spokane. They played one more show in Portland on the 13th then pulled the plug on the tour. Was a privilege to see them play 7empest.
Lucky fucking ass!! So jealous. I caught both shows in Denver on that first leg and then they came back just about a month ago and still no 7empest. I really want to hear that song live. But I did get to hear Hooker with a penis for the first time live. And I lost track after 13 or 14 tool shows over the last 25 plus years.
The last show in 2020 was in Portland on March 11. The Spokane show was the day before.
@@user-ut6qh9uz2z Jeez, you're correct! Thanks for that. I see on my poster here that Spokane was March 9th, and yeah Portland was two days later. Drove from Vancouver BC to Spokane for that show. Legendary trip (hehe) Had tix for the Vancouver stop as well, but that show was cancelled, so double glad we caught them!
@@natemurray311 Yeah I couldn't believe my ears. They opened the set with Inoculum, then aenima, then 7empest. I was checking the sets prior and I believe that was the third or fourth time they played it live. Not 100% on that, but along those lines. Sounds like you've got some rad setlists under your belt. This was my second time.
U lucky bastard!!!I seen them in Boston in 19 at the Danny cam pneuma video and again in Feb 22 and no 7empest!Culling Voices was pretty sick thou
Just saw Tool in Hamburg last night after 25 years of waiting. Incredible experience - these guys are on another level.
No QUESTION!!
This is the best thing! Two of my favorite people from the entertainment world just hanging out and chatting (as an interview), tongue -in-cheek moments aplenty. Love it!
Fan of David Cross?
@@adamsowers8957 Huge fan! From the moment I first saw it on HBO, Bob and David's Mr. Show was one of my favorite programs. Not to mention the dozens of voiceovers he's done for some of my favorite shows, games, etc. I even listened to his audio book at one point when I was on a road trip, and loved it. I'd say I'm a fan. 😀
Best MJK interview to date. That early cut off due to another commitment by DC was gold!
Saw Tool in January, loved Maynard's speech about his toothbrush.
Knowing these guys are friends makes me feel something...and I'm not sure what but it's nice
David Cross is an outrageous assclown, but yeah. 5 min into this and I'm thinking what you're thinking, "why'd I click then". I dunno but I'm done now.
@@ardiberen Boomer? Is that still funny Karen?
Ohhhh this is that dude from not another scary movie 💡
@@ahhwe-any7434 Tobias from arrested development aswell if you've ever watched it
@Ryan Streat what's an Arien?
I would watch the shit out of a weekly podcast with David and Maynard. Loved this.
I dont need Maynard out front "performing". He can be wherever and wear whatever. All that matters is that his flawless vocals go through you to the soul!
MJK is always a difficult interview, he's been asked it all 10x over. So he tends to want to take the interview in random unconventional directions. Props for David for going with the flow.
Maybe not. Maybe he just gets bored being asked to comform and his mind goes to random thought
I don’t think it has anything to do with him being “asked it 10x over.” Maynard’s been like this since birth lol. I think he just isn’t afraid to being himself. If he finds the conversation boring, he’s not going to pretend it’s riveting.
@@MM80666 I get that and they have worked together. But David was there on behalf of Revolver and needed to hit on key points / questions. Props to him for keeping it on course for most of the interview.
Did you see David on the Late Show a few weeks ago? He knows a thing or two about derailing an interview.
Lol
These two could legitimately have a great podcast...even if it's like twice a year...that even makes it funnier actually lol
I saw tool in 2020 right before the pandemic, and had tickets for front row to see their second show (both in DC) but the second got postponed cause the pandemic. It just happened but I couldn’t make it this time. I did, however, go see them in Tokyo a few years back and let me tell you that was a whole different experience because the show in Japan was way way way more intimate. So much smaller of a crowd and it was AMAZING!
i'm 40 and still amazed when i listen to tool...
The cross over interview I didn't know I needed
I c whut u did thar
Got my first album in high school, been a fan since. Just saw them in Dallas and WOW!! Incredible performance.
Best interview ever. I appreciate Maynard's points about headspace, and David's talents.
We bought the Puscifer pay per views, and we appreciate your effort in making it happen. We'll see you with Puscifer in June, looking forward to it so much. Just saw Tool on January, awesome show, Maynard was spot on. Thank you, Maynard, for liking to stay busy.
Just today I was really excited when OPIATE² was released, it was really a pleasant surprise, the original is one of my favorite Tool song, and I really dig the new version, definitely gonna listen dozens of times more. A few years ago I heard about Mr. Show, found out that Maynard was in it, but I really cannot find it anywhere, and I checked on IMDb he was in 2 episodes it says there.
He's in the Ronnie Dobbs sketch in season 1 (with Adam Jones in a non speaking part). It's pretty funny and it's the origin of the band name Puscifer.
He's also at the end of the Coupon: The Movie episode, during the credits. It's very short and not very funny at all.
" but I really cannot find it anywhere,"
The Mr. Show episodes are on youtube
@@patientwuf9234 Oh ok. I think I saw the one in season 1, but I haven't found the second episode from season 2.
@@NoizCode Yeah I found the one from season 1 on youtube, I saw that he was also in Mr. Show season 2 episode 6, and I could not find that episode.
@@lopolik use this format on RUclips to find whatever season and episode you're looking for: 'Mr. Show s02e06'
ruclips.net/video/0XinKALHZX8/видео.html
Two legends, both known for being themselves.
The Columbus tool show (2022) was amazing:) I saw them in 2019 (Cleveland)prior to the pandemic and then again real recently, and was stunned at how much the visual component has grown. It’s something else entirely compared to any other live ‘show’ and I am so grateful for their music in my life. Also, great interview.
Taking my daughter to her 1st TOOL show 29 Oct 2023!
Brilliant video, rare to see Maynard this candid in an interview
MJK is a living legend and one of the greatest artists to ever grace this planet. He is undoubtedly one of the greatest male vocalist in rock music history. He continues to push out quality music over and over and over and continues to amaze me. The fact that he’s the lead singer of not one but THREE multi-platinum selling bands, just says it all. He’s a God.
He’s overrated and pretentious. His lyrics have sucked the past few albums. Tool would be better as an instrumental act at this point.
@@marsoblivi0n945 you need a hug or something, bud?
@@Carp0 no but Maynard does..
@@marsoblivi0n945 I’m sure Maynard is very heart broken you aren’t a fan of his. He upsets your day so much so that you have made multiple reply’s trashing Maynard on other people’s comments. I hope things turn around for you and your life gets better.
@@Carp0 everyone with a decent iq and was a tool fan will agree with me. Also I just pointed out facts. Your the one that’s wrote paragraphs. Triggered tool fans who would’ve figured? I’m Living rent free?Haha
A friendly conversation type of interview. Just delightful.
Awesome interview...completely candid and off the cuff
Funny...Thanx David..
My favorite vocalist and writer.
2 of my favorite people talking to each other. Loved your new special, David!
The most technical rock singer ever. He's so incredible
the most cringe singer ever
If you were referring to Mike Patton your absolutely correct.
@@imightbewrong3065 Game, set, match.
@@imightbewrong3065 so fucking true
He's very good but in his wra he's #2 at best
I love you guys. Thanks for everything. You were fucking amazing in NOLA. Opiate2 was such a nice surprise. Excited to get my hands on the Blu-Ray and check out “operation curveball”. I hope you guys never slow down again.
Where will the blu Ray be available and when?
@@j.p.lovecraft1826 18th of March
I was at the NOLA concert also..it was so incredible!! So glad we got to see Tool play a little bit from all their albums!!
Same here…SO happy I got to see them play Right In Two, Culling Voices, and Hooker With A Penis. Such a treat!
@@bassplyr13 Yeah it was amazing, my first time seeing two shows in one tour. Even though I have seen them 2 other tours, I gained a deeper love for this band this time. Hooker with a penis was so good, was the biggest surprise for me.
I saw your First FI tour concert. Your last concert was March 12th In Portland and everything got shut down the next day. Waited nearly two years and went to your first concert this time around in Eugene. It was worth the wait. Thank you!
That was a great interview. I could definitely listen to a podcast of these two on a weekly basis.
I just saw tool last month here in Tampa, and my favorite band for 26 years and they still Rock! The show was transcendent
I was at the Tampa concert too! Been my fave band since high school…20 years ago! It was definitely transcendent and just overall amazing!
That was my birthday Feb. 9th I had seats that I gave up front so I could go up top and stand and dance...
I get why Maynard retreated from the front, but I still love watching those older Tool shows where his performance was like theater set to the music of Tool; I know that is in the past but thankfully there is RUclips.
Search for the video where he flips a drunk fan on his back and reverse cowgirl grinds him for a 13 minute song.
@@stzaleft7355 I'm very familiar with that video, it's still epic.
@@20th_century_specter aye. Epic indeed. I think it was from the aenima release Era. Would of been an awesome concert to see in person.
This was great! Love me some David Cross and really enjoyed getting to know more about Maynard.
Great interview! Thank you David Cross, MJK & Revolver! Cheers! 🍷
28:49 "All the cobble is grouted with bum dung." This guy should be a song writer.
Yeah he seems like an interesting guy, he should start a band or something😁
two of my creative heroes - love how far they go back and love seeing them shoot the shit together now. hilarious and awe-inspring dudes.
Shooting shit causes it to spray in all directions behind the bullet path. If you stand near enough it will spray you and get into your eyes ears and mouth too. You will taste the shit and you may be able to determine what foods were eaten to comprise it.
Saw them in Grand Rapids this week, i live in Grand Rapids and have seen Tool many times previously but traveled for those shows, this was my first time seeing them here and it was an amazing show. Thank you MJK
Just saw Tool in NJ and they were one of the best live bands I ever saw and Ive seen hundreds in the last 45 yrs
The CROSSover I didn't know I needed
Maynard needs to be in more comedy stuff. He's hilarious.
Great interview! I enjoyed how casual it was between the two of them
f'n epic convo and would listen ALOT more! 2 great hooomans!
LOVED Falcon House, great cast, great Falcons! Wish it had another season.
I can’t wait to go to the next puscifer show. Got my tickets
Great interview....need to rewatch Mr Show, been years......also can't wait for Puscifer at the Roxy in ATL, I'm sure it will be amazing, just like the other couple times. Happy trails until then.
Fun Interview... They both compliment each other very well. Hope to see more from you both. 👍
"I don't need to this for you. I need to do this for me." - M.J.K.
Maynard is a brilliant, and interesting guy. Great interview, Dave!
Aaaah this is the guy that always comes up when I search for the violinist for King Crimson...
Two of my favorite people. Good humans!
For those that are interested - that TOOL show at the Scientology Centre is on You Tube somewhere. It’s a great gig.
Interesting
Love tool. Seen them in Miami. Great show
Just saw Tool in Detroit the other night. Fantastic show. Great to escape the world for a moment. Thanks David & Maynard for everything.
Just saw TOOL in KC on Tuesday. THE BEST SHOW!!! No I didn't take my phone out once. Saw a bunch of idiots doing it at the end, so they watched the last song through their phone, why?! IDK. But Maynard sounded awesome, Danny was fantastic as always, the entire band was excellent. Our last show before the shut down was TOOL and our first show after the shut down was TOOL. Can't think of a better way to bookend this nightmare. TY for working so hard. You are appreciated!!
"Think for yourself... Question authority"
TL
Love the Todd Margaret poster in Daves room. That show is a fucking masterpiece it’s so funny!
Very insightful on the individual who tours. The things he enjoys and misses to go work and make a dollar. Incredibly beautiful.
Just saw Puscifer last night in Denver, such an amazing talent.
I love hearing what maynards got to say.. always interesting 👌👌
He's the real thing
Actually a really good interview. Cross asked the right questions in the right way. Because Maynard is often indecipherable, and fair enough. Our collective itching ears and eyes over wires are not a great way to understand a person. However Cross seemed like someone Maynard wanted to chat with, and understood what he was laying down. Good work.
Friggin great interview. He’s an amazing talent and a great interview
did anyone else find the profundity of Maynard saying 'it was fucking weird, man" when describing the Scientology center? I am really enjoying all of these recent interviews with him. I still have the very first Rolling Stone that Tool appeared on. They were shrouded in mystery, especially Maynard, throughout most of the 90s.
Strange synchro. Was just rewatching Mr Show for the first time in years and heard Opiate2 when it came out, then this pops up in my feed.
Maynard is my all time favorite vocalist and love all his bands. Also Tool's new opiate remake is amazing, hoping they do the same with the entirety of that album.
Saw them in Louisville KY, last night. By far one of the best performances Ive seen.
So glad to have seen my first Tool show in Houston. Bad ass show and cannot wait to experience another one.
Maynard and David have very similar personalities and senses of humor. It’s refreshing to see them do a collab! Hopefully there will be more in the future.
Much better than Joe Rogan. Joe is cool and all but he sucks at getting Maynard to talk
@@SterlingSimmons22 That's funny I honestly thought exactly the opposite... Maynard seemed like he finally opened up in this interview towards the end, but you could tell his body language was not feeling the interview to begin with here... Joe Rogan and him are friends, so they're just having a discussion. Here you got a guy trying to get more views. Who is David it feels like the questions are more artificial instead of organic.
Maynard seems a lot more comfortable towards the end of this interview though, And it was a good interview. But Joe Rogan's more organic. The start here was rough, but got better towards the end.
@@natemurray311 there was a lot cut from this interview and you can tell watching it. Maynard was laughing a good amount of it though, but started out claiming he was tired. David Cross and Maynard have been friends longer than him and Joe…
@@SterlingSimmons22 Yeah I was just reading that I didn't realize that. Plus if we're being honest Maynard's just weird. Haha. In a good weird way of course.
@Jbonejacon the Joe I referred to in my first comment?
How could one person be so brilliant (Maynard)?
I was at the Portland on the stop in 3/11/20 and the opening of the last leg in Eugene were they supposed to be the next in 2020 it was the MOST EPIC EXPERIENCE I HAD WITH TOOL CONCERT IN ALL THE VIDEOS THAT PEOPLE WERE POSTED ON YOU TUBE YOU HEAR ME IN ABOUT 85% in the. MODA videos… I wish I was VIP for the show that night
“Also none of those things you mentioned are livestock”. Had me rolling for some reason, great interview.
Maynard works so hard and is so creative and productive.
Awesome video. Maynard making a new wine :) treat his employees great free toilet paper. Drill Sergent father. Nice to hear from Sir Maynard much love dave
I saw Tool in Bangor. It was a highlight of my life, and I appreciate it.
Man I love the work of both these guys
Cool to see two dudes who are friends having a conversation.
Going to see Tool tomorrow night! 🤘🤘🤘😝😝😝
Super excited to see the Puscifer tour, the Money Shot shows were outstanding.
Maynard, HATS off to you, sir. Dunno how you fit all that work into a day. Every day. RESPECT!
In comedy, context is everything... you can say or laugh at anything you want but not with everybody.
I remember having no idea what Tool looked like until commentary on the Mr. Show DVD and they mentioned Puscifer was played by Tool. Even though I think it was just Adam Jones and Maynard Keenan.
Puscifer only had Maynard no other tool member 100% different band
@@nicholasmehler9662 He is talking about the fictitious band "Puscifer" that appeared on HBO's Mr. Show, created by David Cross (the interviewee in the video above) and Bob Odenkirk. In 1995, years before Puscifer ever became a reality, Adam Jones and Maynard appeared in the Ronnie Dobbs skit of the first Mr. Show episode playing characters who were both band members of a fictional band called Puscifer.
@@lvincent8843 that's awesome. Love Bob Odenkirk
@@nicholasmehler9662 The birth of Puscifer:
ruclips.net/video/Mkygef8_SEI/видео.html
Maynard’s wine is great. I just recently spent two months in Cottonwood and visiting his restaurant and having the wine and seeing his place in Jerome- it was all very good and very awesome. Worth the trip and the sip!
I just seen TOOL last week in Louisville!! I absolutely love Puscifer and A perfect circle.
It’s always a pleasure to listen to James.
I wish I could say the same but he looks bored or u uncomfortable doing it and I can relate
Maynard James Keenan, what a fucking badass.
I remember when the internet started - not the bbs, but the "internet" - having an argument with a friend about internet "communities". I'm not a people person, I'm very introverted, but it worried me that people were replacing in person interactions with online, semi-abstract personalities. An internet community just isn't the same...it's useful...it's good to be able to connect with people like you if you *don't* fit into your geographic community. But that in person interaction with the people in your area is important, too.
Love the interview.
Best interview opener, ever!! 😆