So... About Hades II
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Hades has been one of my favourite games since it released back in 2019... but about it's sequel... It's absolutely amazing who am I kidding. Hades II offers so many new options for a unique rogue like experience and despite only being in early access, is setting up to be one of the best games of this year!
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I'm sure everyone will complain but the plot goes further. You can only spend so much time out with your mother, you die in the sun. So each time you try to talk to her about different things and try to resist longer. The real ending of the game is when after many escapes, you convince her to come back, Hades relents and appaluds you and you keep running the dungeon, because otherwise the other gods would think you succeeded to return Persephone to Hades and split them up again. It's actually /magnificent/ storytelling and reasoning as to /why/ we're still playing a roguelike and why Zagreus still 'escapes' and still fights Hades. But the tone changes to one of sparring and contest.
Unrelated. Any talks about anything in the game mechanics wise and gameplay wise are useless. Hades 1 in EE was equally a mess. Everyone has to remember Hades 1 got praise /after/ release. Not a lot of people were excited about Hades and its EE was relatively a small affair. Hades 2' EE is getting a lot of eyes on it, and as such, any flaws or deficiencies are blown out of proportion when it comes down to what actually will end up being the final game experience.
The goes further beyond that, and takes place not after you find your mother and bring her back. But after you get your FATHER to reconcile with Olympus. There's a whole separate quest line not many people actually did because it's super tedious
@@DraodVideos I didn't mention that because that's ostensibily made to be exactly post game content. I believe the core story, when everything mostly wraps up and eveyone's stakes are settled, is when you bring Persephone back. Sure, there's more bits, but feel they are there just to provide a little sprinkle of something for the true hardcore players. The reasoning why you still run after is much weaker.
Cmon man. You gotta finish the first game. I think you gotta beat it 11 times. Just keep at it.
you have to beat the final boss 9 times and on the tenth time it's when the credits roll, no spoilers
And then you have to max out your relationships with everyone in order to get the final ending. Not going to say what that is.
Got hades blessing to leave after like 50 attempts
I think the dash is a balancing thing since melinoe has a lot more ranged attack compared to Zag. Also the cast is integral to mel's gameplay since she needs the range and making an area that restricts enemy's moevements is key
I'd go even farther and say the entire game is designed AROUND the cast. The sheer number of enemies with a long lasting charging attack made that extremely clear, as if you don't use it those screaming wraiths in the first area will wreck your shit. And the spearfish in the second. And the rogues on the surface. Frankly, I find Zag's cast pretty boring by comparison, since the Mirror of Night upgrades for it encourage using it as a debuff tool on the bosses instead playing around with the more interesting boon variants, and I frequently forget I have it at all. Melinoe's cast, meanwhile, is a core part of her arsenal even at base, so I always have it out.
@@Quantumironturtle I really like mel's cast for the rooting ability as well. I dont't rly like zag's cast because we need to pick it up again, I even sacrafice fire rate by using the rechargable cast rather than picking it up. I love the magick system in hades 2 in the sense that players can choose how they recharge the magick, maybe by staying in the cast, staying still, attacking, etc and not only forced to just pick it up or just to sacrafice usage frequency by automatically recharging.
It's true, I played about 50h of Hades II (having 350h in Hades), and then tried to come back to Hades and found it feels sooo much different. Played 2 runs, got used to it again, came back to Hades II again, and Same exact thing occurs. This just shows that while the games look like they play almost identically, they're much different. The pacing is much different, enemies are much different, and Hades II isn't hack and slash anymore, so frantically spamming everything you have won't get you any wins this time.
About casts: I feel just the opposite. Cast in hades was extremely forgettable unless you build entirely around it, and was really boring with just the shot, not to mention how annoying it was to pick your casts up (I know, I know, you can have your cast recharge automatically, it's good), while in Hades II You can cast so quickly that you can weave it inbetween combos of your attacks. Not to mention it's practically key to dodging some attacks, like cerberus moving slams, chronos' rift dashes and some enemies charging at you. It feels much more integrated, and every cast boon makes you play completely different, while original Hades' cast boons were often really boring or would require duo boons for any fun/good builds.
@@sebastianzarek7056casts affect bosses?!
@@cucumbercytus Yeah! It's a must for dodging cerberus and chronos.
I am facing the consequences of relying too much on merciful end fists with extra Hermes dashes.
Regarding your cast comment. I literally felt the same till I started experimenting with different cast boons when I started to struggle clearing fear runs. Some of those are actually amazing and completely change the way you play the build. At first I thought it's just a dumb damage increase from the Arcana card, but it's 1) a root, which is very important when in high fear runs you can litetally get one shot. 2) It's instant and AOE, and some casts like Poseidon's one literally deal 100 dmg to everyone in front of you and pushes them away, that's stronger than his heroic attack and 3) some casts are working while they are active, which means you drop it and then continue playing while doing dmg/debuffs in the background.
So what I'm saying just try some cast boons for fun, and you'll instantly will fall in love!
Casts are more than just damage. Dropping a cast, not even an Omega case is a great defensive move to hold enemies, particularly fast moving ones from running you down. They are also a great way to apply curses for the Origination card which gives a 50% damage bonus when an enemy has 2 curses. Put one on the attack and another on the curse and +50% boom.
And casts have massive interractions with some aspects, namely pan, charon, persephone, even momus and all of these aspects are arguably the strongest of their respective weapons if built right
@@antoinelelong1324 I cant do charon with max enemy speed fear, the ranged enemies tear me a new one, I did 45 fear with than axe tho and there is someone who completed 55 fear with it!!!
Honestly I think the cast is so much better in hades 2. With the right arcana set up your cast becomes both offensive and defensive which I adore. Not to mention you can apply two curses solely with your cast with the right boons which triggers origination is chefs kiss.
Demeter’s cast options are insane. I basically needed them when I was doing the level 32 fear challenge runs. And add Zeus into the mix and the enemies can’t get close, can’t move and there constantly getting bombarded with lightning
I agree, Demeter boons surely feel stronger in Hades 2.
The cast is less damage focused (aside from a few select aspects) and much more about utility. It keeps you from getting mobbed by the whirlers and banshees in erebus, the needlefish in oceanus, punchers and lycans in fields, etc. You pretty much drop it and kite so that you can pick off the enemies from a medium range.
A great combo for melinoe's cast is the zeus boon and demeter boon that when put together, turn the cast into a blender. And then if you give every enemy the hitch effect while in the cast they'll all be taking damage each time one of them is hit, which is 4 times a second. And then, if you're using one of the staffs different forms, it will recast any omega cast for free. And you can get a bonus that if an enemy dies with the hitch effect, any other enemy with the hitch effect will take a burst of damage, which is really great for the [redacted] fight.
I know that's a long list, but it's honestly great, and more can be added on top of it
Any boon from Hestia, Apollo or Demeter that involves your cast becomes terrifying. I particularly like Hestia and Apollo, because being able to summon a circle of fire to destroy your enemies is kinda awesome
Once you unlock the weapon aspects, the Charon version of the Moonstone Axe can be super broken. If you hit your regular Cast circle with the Omega Special (OS), it instantly donates your cast as if it was your Omega Cast. If you get Apollo's Lucid Gain boon then you regain 50-100+ mana back if you're standing inside when your cast disappears. So you can spam Cast and OS back to back and always have full mana. This makes your Hex charge up very fast by spending mana.
You can get an upgrade like the Daedalus Hammer that increases the mana cost of your OS and fires it twice. And/or the Hestia boon that increases the mana cost and launches a fireball when you OS. You can get your OS to cost 40 or 55 so that you only have to cast your OS twice to build your Hex even if it costs 80-100.
If you get the Darkside Hex you become impervious to all damage during it. So you can fire 2 OS and then Hex to become impervious for 5-6 seconds and repeat 2 OS into Hex over and over.
I like to put Hera's boon on the Special so everything gets Hitched and shares damage with each other for even bigger nukes. But the only thing you really need is Charon's Axe and Apollo's Lucid Gain for the mana gain. You could slap any other boons on and it should work.
i like the aphrodite heartthrob boon when using that combo, if somehow the enemy still survive after your OS you can just run them over with heartthrob
@@jabermogwai5996 Get Heartbreaker and then Sunny Disposition with Apollo and Chronos will get oneshot by just running into him after like 5 rotations lol
what most people dont remember about mel's cast is that it slows enemies inside of it, meaning if you have enemies chasing after you, you can drop the cast and it will allow you to stop them long enough to drop an omega move and decimate them, and the omega cast is the strongest omega move period, which just adds an explosion to the end of your cast
Oh my man, the cast is the cornerstone of any build. You’re definitely missing out.
I agree, I used to be a cast hater, but I realized it's actually quite good
My only real gripe with the early access approach is when early players post spoilers as content. I don't mean this video which was good about teasing new stuff without giving away anything too juicy, but the other day I saw a reel giving away a unique final boss mechanic. I'm glad early players are helping make the final release as good as it can be but I wish more of them would chill on talking about specific reveals or cool aspects of the sequel that a lot of us are looking forward to discovering on our own when it's officially out.
Ok, so you wonder what the cast is for? In contrast to Hades 1, the cast basically acts as a defence mechanism for Hades 2. Outside of bosses, the Cast is meant to ensnare enemies and keep them in place so you can safely attack them from a distance or for you to finish them off. One of the uses I found for the Cast is when dealing with the fishes that spawn in Oceanus. Specifically, the ones that come in schools. Or the ones that Scylla summons desperately as you’re about to kill her. It’s basically Aspect of Arthur from the first game but more convenient and way easier to use. It gives you more breathing room and allows you to attack opponents more safely. My typical strategy with it is to cast it when enemies are about to spawn, and kill them immediately. It’s effective against mobile enemies or for bosses that aren’t particularly fast (Hecate, Scylla, Roxy, etc.). While it also isn’t particularly good against very fast enemies (Jetty and some others).
Hades 1 also had 4 areas, namely the maze…
Yeah I realised this while editing but honestly the maze section at the end of the route is so much shorter and less fleshed out than the other areas I still wouldn't count it as a full area and more of a prep zone - but obviously this is entirely personal opinion 😅
@@ItsWhimsi Deadline gives you bonus time for it, so it's counted as a full-on region, and 80% of the time it's longer than asphodel, which is the shortest biome in the game.
@@ItsWhimsi isn't tartarus (in hades 2) basically the same length though? it's like five chambers, maybe two or three more if you pick the alternate paths
I like using apollo's prominence flare that rapidly deals damage when a cast expires, combine that with hestia's glowing coal that lets you fire casts from a big distance, it's just unbeatable
6:50 H2 cast build for you:
Aspect of Persephone with Zeus's cast. You can optionally also get hera or apollo's special, hera has more damage but apollo gets a decent duo boon. Start the run with Zeus' keepsake and look for his cast. If you see hera or apollo then get their special, but if not I think hera is better to get with her keepsake in Oceanus since she also gives born gain, but you will need to get extra magic so you don't run out. Apollo has a decent magic regen boon for this build, but not that great. Imo you don't need origination for this build, but if you want you can go for Demeter's Gale Force in the fields and that with hera's special is a way to get origination.
There are so many other builds you can do with this aspect btw. You can go for a freeze burn build with demeter's special and hestia's cast, but I've found a lot of success in the Zeus build since you don't really need a pesky duo for it to work, unless you're doing the apollo variation, and ever since the buff they gave to this aspect it's felt really good to use!
The cast is by far the strongest attack you can have in Hades 2, you'll get insane damage on a boss and can focus on dodging after casting it. Also maybe you have noticed that there are more enemy types that try and rush at you, your cast will keep them stuck to the ground and make them easy to pick off, if you then add the effects of Zeus or Ares to it and improve those, load up the cast and it will demolish anything while it can't even move.
the only use I managed from the cast is in the fields of mourning agains the boxing guys that cant reach you when they get caught in the cast
For the cast, there is a Hestia boon that allows you to throw it instead of placing it below you, which can feel a lot better especially against bosses where you usually have to risk your life just to place it
Yeah, combined with the icarus upgrade wich make a big explosion around it as well, it's a lot of damage.
A build with Apollo's cast will be really powerful
The cast is a staple of hades II kit. With a good boon it can be the lynch pin of a play through
What? Hades 1 runs were also split into 4 regions?
Yup exactly
6:53 I adore the cast in Hades 2 so much. My personal favorites are using Demeter cast in conjunction with Hestia Flourish/Strike and their duo boon. I also really like Hestia cast paired with Aphrodite for duo boons. The main benefit of the cast is the fact that it locks enemies in place and lets you take them out easily with the rest of your kit. Additionally, effectively using your mana is an important aspect for Hades 2. I got through my early runs using an Omega cast build with the Arcana card that let me have mana regen automatically.
There are different use cases, but Apollo and Aphrodite cast are also fairly decent. I don't like Hephaestus' cast and with the most recent Patch 4, I think Hera's cast is bad. What I will say, is that build synergy has always been something that matters for these games, and I think it is unfair to judge the quality of the strike/flourish/cast without the understanding that you will most likely be applying boons to them.
Build Suggestion for making good use of the cast: Aspect of Moros Torches. Put Hestia on the Special (Searing Flourish), Demeter on the Cast (Arctic Ring), Hera's Mana Regen Boon (Born Gain), and then fill in with another god, preferably one who gets duo boons with a few of the other 3 gods (Poseidon is my preferred atm). Work towards getting Freezer Burn (Demeter/Hestia Duo) and Elementary Particles (Hestia/Hera). You can stack up a lot of Scorch via the Omega Flourish and then cause it to burst with Demeter
To establish my credibility, I've got 160+ hours in Hades 2 and close to 800 hours in Hades 1.
8:13 first of all, did you forget the temple of Styx existed? It is 100% a 4th biome for hades 1, and not considering it a biome while saying that hades 2 Tartarus is seems a bit unfair
The cast in hades 2 is actually designed to give you more build options around it, There are more boons to improve and specialize on it and in some builds you just use your cast not even your basic attacks. It is not a compliment to your basic attacks like it was in the first game for most builds, I believe it was desgined to offer more options for different gameplay styles.
With arcana card "The Furies" and Demeter's boon for cast that inflicts freeze,cast becomes OP. If you combone it with Apollo's cast enlarger boon or Zeus'us boon that sends thunder to the enemies in your cast, plain cast or omega cast demolishes al the enemies. That "freeze" effect from demeter makes wven armored enemies stop so you kinda stun lock even armored enemies with a damage increase boon for your attack,ig you also have the arcana card "Night" it gets even better.
I find that the cast in Hades 2 is less fun to use raw than the Hades 1 iteration but is given much more build potential, with either using it to make zones of death or using Poseidon amd Hestia to make it a Fireball that explodes instantly.
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With context too, it’s only a matter of time when the ovw devs realize they’re losing more money on 5v5 and how they treat balance changes like fixing an antique scale with a jack hammer.
Well for the dash, first of all Melinoe is MUCH more distance focused so having 2 dashes would be BROKEN. Also the cast also balance the lack of dash cause it prevents enemies from moving. You should try to okay lite with it cause when you do you gain SO much more crowd control and positioning options!
Cast is reqlly powerful. If you get the boon from Zeus or Apollo that adds extra damage to cast and then get boon from hestia to throw the cast. It is really powerful.
My god finish hades
I've been working on it I'm just very bad at this game!! 😭
Most stuff has been said but there is one thing that I want to mention. While yes, only one dash, it feels way more controllable. I went back to hades 1, to finish some stories after playing over 100 hours of 2 and I just can't get the timing right. Dodging in Hades 1 seems so weird to me, it never works reliable. And I can't seem to finish with more than 17 skulls. Death Defiance also shows how often enemies are actually not hitting you, while you take damage.
For the cast in Hades 2, I've really liked putting Demeter's freeze on it, especially when you turn up enemy movement speed. It stops them from absolutely running over you in Mourning Fields and Tartarus, and it also does decent damage if you end up stacking Hitch with your attack/special/dash and Demeter's Cyclone effect on top of it. I've had runs where I did like half of Chronos's health with just my cast and dash.
Yo my man you said you want a cast build... well I have just the build for you it's an all I one killing machine... the fenyx cast (named after me as I made it) you need the new lucid gain and cast boon (demeter is the best) and geyser spout the second teir cast boon from the man of the ocean posiden.
And their you go the best build for the cast it can work with any build as it's independence it's what makes it so strong
Demeter, and Zeus turn your cast amazing. Also Apollo has lucid gain ( infinite mana pretty much) and some good cast buffs.
Demeter's Local Climate, with Apollo's Super Nova with a Zeus, Aphrodite or Hestia cast is beyond chef kiss. Casts have become what I care about chasing boons for the most.
The reason I've come up with as to why hades 1 and 2 feel different to play for the first bit when switching between the two is because they seem to play differently. Hades 1, to me at least, seems to focus a lot more on being aggressive in your fight up the underworld, whereas hades 2 seems to have a more tactical approach since this is a war after all. This approach in hades 2 is seen with the two new meters you have to keep an eye on, being the hex and magik granting stronger attacks and build potential. The cast being the way it is encouraging the player to watch for a window of opportunity to throw it down effect, where in hades 1 you mostly just threw it within rough line of sight and when the boss wasn't invincible. And as for cast builds, Charon axe with prominence flare or whatever apolo's omega cast is.
i unfortunately barely used the cast in the first game because it felt kinda slow and i hardly noticed whether i even had any uses of it left or not, definitely a skill issue on my end lol, but the cast in hades 2 is so much more fun to use in my opinion and it’s one of my favourite changes they’ve made between the two games
You should try a run with a cast boon and other boons that support the cast. It is really good, but it need buildings like anything else. Also, make sure you're using the omega cast. 200 points of damage is nothing to sneeze at, and getting enough magic regen to be able to use is pretty easy.
The boons that make your cast fire a projectile with the binding circle form where the projectile hits are especially good. They're support boons so you can use them along side your main cast boon.
Or just keep playing focused on the weapons if you find that more fun. You don't NEED to use the cast, but I think you'll like it if you try it.
I think the source of difference is the different build of our protagonist. Zag is a fighter he goes in do some bloodshed and come out. Mel on the other hand is a witch. She is not as fast as Zagreus or as tough, but she still has spells and the firepower which Zag has bearly has. For me it is similar to when I play a caster and a martial character in DnD. They have a different timing, rhytm and style
I’ll make a comment on the cast thing here because I didn’t like it at first either. The whole point of it is to trap moving enemies (especially armored ones) because it makes everything but guardians stay in the circle. You can also add stuff to this like Apollo’s boon that makes it a blast, demeter’s that makes it a cyclone and my personal favorite of hestia’s that makes it do constant burn damage inside. It’s something that you utilize on top of what you make your attack and special. It is different than zag’s cast in that it doesn’t really damage or shoot, but it’s really vital to giving yourself opportunities especially now that you can charge for omega attacks (I will say it does take getting used to but after playing a while it becomes like second nature to use it)
The cast thing is the opposite for me. In the first game; I often forgot I had the option for it and kind of ignored it. But in Hades II, I am remembering more to use my cast and incorporating it more into the gameplay.
6:56 you absolutely have to get hestia’s cast launching boon and demiter’s multiple cast boons to make it continuously damage things inside and then it is literally the best
if you're not using the cast, you're making the game a lot more difficult for yourself. Even spamming it on CD will help you immensely due to it's CC.
now in regards to damage? Try Demeter, two curses and a ton of damage, try Apollo for huge AOE. Try Heph and Charon's Axe.
the new cast i found really usefull to proc origination (the card that gives +50% dmg) at the start of my playtrough I felt the same as u, but watching a lot of Haelian videos made me realize thats one of the main reasons u sould use it, find a boon that procs a condition (hera and demeter are the easiest ones) and just cast it right under the enemys right before using ur combo
I feel like I'll prefer Hades II to Hades I, and I played hundreds of hours of Hades I. Your point about each game feeling clunky depending on which one you played recently is SO real, I got the same feeling. About the casts, I think Zeus-Apollo-Hera combo has an excellent build for casts, well worth the try. Slight correction, Hecate refers to herself to a Titanness, not a goddess. This was an excellent video, great job!
I'm not the first to point this out but mixing the cast into Melinoe's combo is really important for latter difficulties (+20% dmg from a cheap card for example)
I have beaten cronos with a build using the staff's cast with 2 dedalos hamers and afrodite's buff that makes you deal more damage if you're close to enemies, the first hammer is the one that makes you attack twice to your front and the one that makes you heal when killing enemies with the cast (left click cast)
I've heard almost exclusively positive things about Hades II, and I can't freaking wait to play it. I'm so down for this.
Both hades one and two have four areas, he just forgot about the Temple of Styx, (or didn't count it)
I absolutely love the outfit of your character.
I am forever cursed to Persona 5 being an essential part of my branding ahha but thank you so much!
I say the cast in hades 2 is i think better then hades 1 for the simple fact that it slows down enemies, and with a certain axe aspect actually utilized cast so good its the best weapon in the game as of now I recommend trying it with apollo's gain boon.
Also you do realize you can equip more cards by improving your grip
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I guess when switching to the diff hades, its more of a "skill issue", you acclimate yourself to the equips, enemy time, skills, movement, on how they diff, its like switching to diff Monster hunter games, thats my opinion
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Try Charon Axe and put Hephaestus' Anvil Ring + Poseidon's Geyser Spout + Seismic Hammer (Duo of Hephaestus & Poseidon) and that's one of my personal satisfying Cast Build. You can also add Lucid Gain (Apollo boon) and Grand Caldera for bigger explosion.
The only thing that trully annoyed me was Eris in your firsts runs. I know that she is there to slow down the game progress, but c'mon, annoyingly unfair... I beated the sirens in my 4º run and found a really fun build, but with Eris "bless" my run was unfairly doomed because of that.
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Hephaestus Boon erases anything that isn't a boss and chunks boss is pretty well too. And Hestia boon makes the cast better at area denial that it already is. Mix either of them with Apollo boon that expands the circle and they become broken. That's not even mentioning Charon's ax.
fun fact I never used Cast in Hades 1 so it doesnt matter to me if its as good of a combat tool as it was in the first, cause I thought it was the most boring skill in the first one, always felt so underwhelming to me at least
I prefer hades one. His double dash just feels better for me to play. The duo boons are well just better. I do like the cast mechanics in 2 but that's about it. The weapons in 1 are way better . The story in 2 is cool. But it just has a lot to live up to and as much as I love 2 part one is better.
Not a big thing, but you forgot Styx as a zone in Hades 1. Otherwise, stellar video homie.
3:25. If we try to make games into art we get games from Ice-pick Lodge. Barely playable, hardcore in all directions, but deeply profound projects of interactive fiction. Even Cargo is more of one of those short stories big-name authors of classics wrote to amuse themselves, but, indeed, games that are art are completely different from the fun games that is Hades series.
As a pathologic fan, call of duty is a work of art. maybe not GOOD art, but art. Media that is more exclusive is not necessarily more artful. And hades has one of the most elegant fusions of narrative with gameplay that video games has to offer. Look at the wonderful artstyle and voice acting and music and tell me this is not compelling art haha
@@gizmo3702 it is compelling. But like there are artists all over Tumblr, there are also paintings of abstract rooms of viscera. There are different types of art, and one of the forms, indeed, is art for general public.
I just prefer the more exclusive types of art. I like to dive into depth, exploring both intentional and intentional ideas. The art for general public is still great, but there is a crux that half the time it has little left of the original vision for the sake of income.
3:22 you forgot cup Head my friend😢
Hades 1 cast was ass unless you invested heavily into it. Hades 2 is, out the gate, the single most game breakingly good thing she can do. It locks you opponents down totally, Chaf, bosses, doesn’t matter. It has no cool down so you should be spamming it and kiting enemies into it it. Just one damage for it makes a powerful offensive weapon on top of being amazing at defense. It’s amazing.
first time u ever beat chronos was a cast based build so i HEAVILY disagree with the cast being bad. use the as a way to group enemies together
3:22 You wrote Undartale twice. He-he. :)
Cast main here
Hades 1 is a better experience overall, as of now. Hades 2 has some better mechanics and slightly better gameplay (although if you switch between the two games, each one becomes the more satisfying gameplay experience after a few hours, which is just incredible!).
The narrative, characters, and respawn area/structure are currently more satisfying in the first game... to me. I know it will change some and not everyone will agree, but no matter what, these are 2 of the best games of the 20's.The sky.. or the underworld.. is the limit for these developers!
3:23 Undertale is so good it appeared twice lol
I am SO glad someone finally noticed that ahahah
I am not a gamer. I appriciete games for that they exist, but playing them - only to analyse the art, and learn from it and if it has a good story! So, it's early access. Does that mean that story-wise it is expected to be expanded? I am asking because, honestly - i want to expirience the story and if i play it now... i just won't play it twice and so i would miss, right? what would you recommend me to do? ( I have nothing against waiting, only if it is for nothing, hehe)... I feel like the response would be "I don'know"XD
Currently the ending isn’t available to those who play early access! I don’t know how familiar you are with the Roguelike format but on paper it’s a genre that’s designed to be replayed over and over - people can get “to the end” of the currently available content but players are unable to “finish” Hades II while it’s in early access. That way a lot of the story can remain spoiler free for the full release. This is just a test of mechanics and balancing for those who play more for the gameplay than the story
for the credits to roll you have to beat the final boss 9 times and reach him 1 other time
Hey you should edit your comment to just say 10 times and take out the second part. I loved the surprise of not having to fight hades at the end and I don’t want anyone else to lose that experience
Bro melinoe's cast is literally broken, try the dual boon of zeus and apollo
You said hades 1 has three biomes, but what about Styx. It isn’t as big or long. But it’s still separate isn’t it.
I do miss a lot of the old content from RUclips in general. I just wish that everything wasn’t from the same template; just to get some clicks.
So you don't count the Temple of Styx as a main Area ?
8:10 you forgot the temple of styx
Okay so I appreciate your honesty about not finishing Hades I, it's not necessarily a requirement to enjoy a game, but the thumbnail looking like something's wrong with Hades 2 is honestly the nail in the coffin for me, and blabla this might be how clickbaiting works but there's no excuse for this.
Release it on the switch!
Literally stopped watching when you said you didn't finish the 1st one
i dont think this dude has actually completed hades 1 lol. he doesnt even know the underworld has 4 regions in the first game
No I haven’t finished Hades 1! I have defeated Hades a couple times just haven’t made the credits roll because I’m not very good at the game ahah! I mentioned in a previous comment I wasn’t really counting the maze-like section of the final area because I’ve always found it quite short and more of a final prep and heal up zone before Hades rather than an actual challenge to get through. It’s just a matter of opinion though and I can definitely see why a lot of people are disagreeing with me ahah 😅
He said he didn't finish it
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i m not very fond of hades 2 weapons, hades 1 weapons were more fun and unique from eachother
as a fan of the first game and as a person who is indeed greek (and also as an artists) i can tell you that the designs are quite bland ( not all of them of course , heacte melinoe odysseus and so on are great ),zeus is worse in every way and not lore accurate whatsoever same as : practically most of the boon gods . now don't get me wrong the designs in the first are not lore accurate either but they capture the essence in a great way , contrast that with chronos : just disapointing in the story and as a final boss , the system with the two paths (surface and underground ) is very interesting , the weapons are fun but not as robust , they feel as if they're not really main weapons but dlc or modded.the tarrot cards are waay better than the mirror and also the grind for materials way more fun and engaging.The game is overall alot easier (I could streak runs with increasing heat ) . So overall interesting but disapointing especially in the story department now if you disagree or want to call me any names for not liking the desings it's completely fine just now that it's a 4000 year old story and it isn't supposed to nor should fit into our societal standards and that's why it's interesting after all ( the source material )
Hades 2 not as good, but still great 👍
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"Didn't even finish..bought 3 times."
Yeah, I'm out.
Okay!! Thanks for stopping by and engaging anyways! Every little helps lmao 😭
i thought hecate was a titan
Sprint is a hot garbage mecanic. there is litelery no use for it in the game besides the first minor boss where you have to keep runing in circles. if tou remove sprint the game is just better.
your opinion on the cast is a skill issue fr
Oh you're 100% correct aha I am NOT good at these games
I just dont like some of the character designs...
Really? Which ones?
did you forget its in early early access
Such as?
100% they are not talking about Aphrodite
@@BrettDalton lmao Brett you're hilarious bro
Hades 1 should have just been a visual novel if you think about how poorly the game design was. And Hades 2 was developed after hearing people's feedback for two years... well... they made the dash slower? But the poor decision-making during combat is the same. The most effective tactic is to dash back and click until the enemy is in a stunlock state dies. The poor build system is the same: just max out one button and kill enemies with it without any diversity. And eternal farming.
You really didn't play the games much at all did you. They are some of the best design and play of any rogue like around.
@@BrettDalton dude, if you think that hades is a good rogue like. That actually means that you didn't play many rogue likes. And that means you don't know about game design at all. I can give you many examples of games without any plot, without deep characters, without quality music. Still people spend thousands of hours playing these games just because gameplay is great. Gameplay in hades is a poor click dash back clicker with a poor build system with lack of diversity (just max out the button you click) and with a ton of meta progression.
It's the first roguelike with a plot and with a good plot, that I respect. But telling that hades have a good gamedesign (battle system, build system, level system e t. c.) is just disrespectful to other good actually games, but not good visual novels.
@@arkasar2083 you have 2 opinions which you haven't substantiated. Because other games do things differently doesn't make this game bad. Also for ref I do this shit for a living, so I understand the time and balance it takes to build something like this. Games are more than an individual mechanic, because you personally don't like it doesn't make it bad. The vast majority of... well everybody disagree with you
@BrettDalton I didn't say that Hades is bad. I said that the gameplay in Hades is bad and that Hades is a bad roguelike, but a good visual novel. If you do this for a living, well, that means we are in deep shit if you don't even understand the fundamentals of game design. I hope you are in a low position at least. Yes, games are more than just one mechanic, but it doesn't mean we can't criticize that one mechanic. And improving this one mechanic would improve the game overall.
The vast majority of players actually don't like the gameplay in Hades, but they like the game overall (because of the music, plot, characters, etc.), so when I try to point out poorly designed elements, they defend it like it's their child. Try to ask people who actually playing games (not a games journalist) or have tried different rogulikes. I'm sure they agree with me.
Also, there's an interesting phenomenon with new players for whom Hades was their first roguelike game. These players don't try other roguelikes because they think they've already played the best roguelike in the world, and they found its gameplay to be... meh, boring, too repetitive. But they actually played a poorly designed roguelike with a good plot. It pisses me off.
I prefer hades one. His double dash just feels better for me to play. The duo boons are well just better. I do like the cast mechanics in 2 but that's about it. The weapons in 1 are way better . The story in 2 is cool. But it just has a lot to live up to and as much as I love 2 part one is better.