That water clog can cause the water to get on the Smart Junction Box -[SJB] (aka BCM) and cause it to fail !!! .. REALLY BAD, but fixable. It's right behind the passenger side kick panel. Get the PN number from it and find a junk yard one or on ebay and replace it, then do the 8 turn of the key trick and leave it on at the 8th turn and press lock on the key fob to reprogram it. (Hopefully you bought a good SJB.)
09 here, unclog those plugs behind the engine on both sides often, and carefully remove and preserve your leather panels and temporarily replace with plastic ones
I had the same problem with alarm on my 2006 mustang. I solved the problem. The hood sensor located on the passenger side of the engine compartment. it is a hood sensor of bad design. the contacts are exposed. to fix slide the connector out you will notice it is slightly corroded. clean off with contact cleaner, spray a little into the connector slot plug in and no more problem. at least that was the problem on my stang.
Mine had the same "two o' clock in the am" problem. Using a scanner I found the hood switch was bad. My cure was to just cut the wires and tuck them out of sight. If someone was trying to open the hood with the alarm set meant they were already in the car and if the alarm hadn't gone off by then......
also the door ajar switches could be the problem, cuz my 2007 gt/cs has the driver door switch broken and keeps upping and downing the window, and once locked and the window goes down, the alarm starts to scream. 20$ and 20 minut fix.
Thanks for the information in this video. It is appreciated. I bought a 06' gt convertible with 25k miles on it, now the clock has 110k miles. The first issue I had was the alternator . I've replaced it three times now & the light on the cluster is intermittent. The alarm is nothing but a headache. What I found out on mine that there is a 3rd horn in the rt. 1/4 panel. The alarm was going off & it pissed me off. I reached in & pulled the wires out of it. On the water coming in the passenger side there's a "Smart junction box" that is in the pathway of water coming in. I pulled it out & cleaned up the corrosion & sprayed contact cleaner on it. Seems like it worked. The back glass on the convertible top started to separate from the glass/ top due to the adhesive getting old & hot. Living in Southern Nevada the temps reach 115° +, black top & interior add a little fuel to the fire. Hence, time for a new top. The list of things that suck about this S197 seems endless, but for some reason I still like the car.😂 Thanks again for posting this video.
The door panels… my 09 has both inserts missing, I just took an interior brush, cleaned all the loose junk off it, made an improvement, still might remove all the glue, but once it’s not flaky and discolored it looks halfway decent
I used the coverlay replacement panels. They are plastic but do have a textured surface . I kept the fabric on the doors for sound deadening purpose. Inserts will fit much better if fabric is removed. Only issue I have had is it slightly lifted in the front point area. Not really noticeable.
really ? I want to change my panel to red but overlay say is better with fabric on and that the panel are not designed for door without oem cover . I'll willl remove the door panel entirely so I can put some weight on them
156k on my V6 07 s197 and the only real issue I have had is the thermostat housing. That did cost me like $350 one day. But aside from that. My panels are fine. I'm. Im happy i have the plastic door panels lol. And the paint is a little rough but not too rough I think they changed the interior paint/plastics. All things considered. Has held up super well. I'm about to replace ball joints and tie rods. And that's it.
Oil pressure sensor is pretty easy to get to and easy to replace. I just swapped the o e from my crown Vic in last week. Of course your gauge could be the issue, mine would start working on e the sensor got hot. So replacing the sensor fixed it.
The door panel is a common problem. It's a piece of foam that is glued to the vinyl that falls apart from the heat and sun. I had a shop with commercial grade glue it back on. I have also used coverlay. They are good but doesn't fit as well as vinal. I did have drains clog and drain into my passenger side sadly. Cleaned those out and got the water underneath the carpet and on top. I have not had those other issues hopefully I won't.
just a tip for future people reading these comments: a good diy fix for the door panels is a pre molded, solid piece to replace the vinyl. they go for about $100 and usually come with silicone glue that holds up to 120°F Vegas heat.
My 07 fuel gauge is jacked too.. When I start the car, it shows how much fuel i have... then it drops to E after about a minute. When it hits about 1/4 tank, it goes back to showing how much gas i have.... which is nice so I dont have to guess and I've never run out.
@@klb12393 it can get in thru the window seal and the drain plugs are just on the bottom of the door.. sometimes leaves or stems can get in there and clog the drain.. 2 minute job..
After looking around, as I understand it any glue you try on the panel inserts will eventually let go because of the fiber backing on the insert itself. I just bought an '07, and the dealer had the the plastic panels installed for me. While it's just more plastic to go with all the other plastic in the interior, it looks fine. Also, on the alarm I have nothing. But, maybe there is a seperate fuse for the alarm you could pull from the fuse box.
Definitely going down the plastic route to replace mine. Tired of looking at it lol. And I did discover the alarm was/is getting set off because of the hood latch sensor. It has slight play and tricks the PATS system into thinking it’s getting broke into - theft mode which activates the alarm.
I use "wurth klebfix" super glue for my side inserts. Take your time apply push. Take some fabric push it into the void and compress it with a board and clamp it. Green painter tape to hold the edges in. Make sure you apply in optimum climate. Not to hot, cold, wet..works with old adhesive on it. Heat cycles and extreme cold cycles are brutal on the foam. Ford bought the vinyl with foam already attached. Then they glued to door panels at an assembly plant. Fords glu holds.. the vinyl manufacturer did not lol. Options are, to glue every 8 years, or to replace with leather at upholstery shop for about 2k
I used weldwood vinyl top adhesive. Its a contact cement so if you wait the prescribed time before rolling (yes with a sound deadener roller) the two materials together, it will not come off.... evar! To compete the job I simply tucked the edges in with the backside of a folding utility blade knife.
For the alarm going off randomly, it could possibly be your door jamb switches if youre getting a "driver ajar" while driving or sitting stationary. This switch going bad can cause your car to act like its open and trigger the driver door ajar while its locked and alarm is engaged causing it to go off as the computer thinks someone is opening the door. It got so annoying I just started locking it with the key and not setting the alarm because it kept going off until i replaced that part on the driver side. Your issue sounded exactly like my alarm problem, from what I researched water gets in and messes up the switch which I see its raining in your video. I'd be curious to see what the issue was.
I actually just pulled 2 black door panels out of a salvage yard to replace my gray ones (in the process of converting my gray interior to black) the leather on the driver side is absolutely perfect somehow, never seen the factory leather not peeling off before, if the passenger one was goodI would leave it but it's not so it's getting the plastic inserts
Upholstery glue fixed my door panels. Perfectly without taking apart..... Just glue and duct tape..😮No other issues just alternator, cam sensor and one coil needed the 13 years I owned my 06...
Yes sir, there is a fuse box exactly where that water is leaking into the car at - I don't have that problem thankfully - but you better pay attention to that area
hey so i got mine and the lights inside the car stay on even after the car is off and locked. i can see thru the window that those lights stay on and sometimes only the passenger side turns off
I get that water leak I cleaned out the windshield gutter but I still get it , I’ll have to look into getting new black rubber panel thing from around the doors and roof of the car hopefully that fixes it
It's not just the cowl drains, check the AC drain too, I bought my car and the rubber grommets in the cowl were already removed for better drainage, mine ended up being the AC drain being clogged, dripped in the exact same spot
My ‘08 randomly pops the trunk release. Just driving along, check the instruments and I’ll have a “TRUNK AJAR” message and yes, it’s popped. Luckily the springs are weak so it doesn’t open up, just unlatches.
thank you,,,,, I have a 2008 bullitt rebuild to a nascar level power of 900 hp to rear wheels but have my fuel guage be very slow and will not show full! so I as you dont know why these guages wear out so quickly. I only have 10 thousand miles on this car
It's the smart fuse box .It's from the clog drain when it fills with water it comes in and fuse box gets wet it makes the car do all kinds crap alarm goes off for no reason,windows hose up and down about a inch or two days tweaks out all bad
i have a 2010 GT premium, if i set the alarm with the windows down occasionally a fly will set it off .....im assuming they have the same security system ?
You may have the motion sensors on your dome light, if you have two spots on each side of the dome light housing that look like small speakers, you have motion sensors
I've replaced the stepper motors. mine is a base model gt so the door panels are hard plastic so no issue there. Just wait till you have to change spark plugs lol. 233k miles and still drive it like I stole it.
I'm so glad my mustang isn't the only one with an alarm sensor problem. It's linked to the sensitivity in the module behind the glove box. I tried to have my dealer turn it down when I bought the car but no luck. I just turn the key in the lock to lock the driver door and that doesn't alarm the system. 05 V6 fyi. It was so bad that a car driving down my street while the car was in the driveway would set it off.
Im looking at a 2008 Mustang convertible with 100,000 for 12,000 Absolutely beautiful car and 🤔 of pulling the trigger on getting it. What do y'all think?
Spark plugs. Spark plugs. Spark plugs. The biggest issue on these cars are the spark plugs. If you have an 07 1/2 -09 you're good but anything previous you'd better be very careful removing plugs.. They are 2 piece and they break notoriously. If they break they drop into the cylinder then you have a big issue. The door panels are the #2 most common. The plugs are #1. Kinda shocked you have a mustang and don't know there is a fuse box in the passenger kick panel. Not being rude but know your stang bro. It's an honor to own a mustang. If you have the leak that results in water getting in the passenger side that is #3 most common and worst problem. It can ruin the entire fuse box and it can travel where the computer is and also ruin the computer which is minimum $1000. If you have an auto trans. #4. Be sure to never follow what Ford states that this transmission can go over 100,000 miles without service. Tell that to a trans guy and he will laugh his @$$ off. It needs to be done at normal increments. Maybe 25,000 miles MAx. Or you will be getting a rebuild as I did.... These are the top 4 problems for the 05-09. I have never even seen the gauge issue. Hope it doesn't happen to me. That will drive me insane and I would have to have that fixed or I'd go crazy
@BigSmokeLV I know that is what Ford says but every transmission person I've talked to laughs at it. They say that it's basically a pretty theory and is false. They all have recommended doing it as you would any other transmission. They all say having it sealed does t make the fluid last any longer
Every single one of these 05 to 09 cars did that w the door cards....ford should have been forced to take every single car back and fix it w something that would solve the problem...thats the worst looking garbage
I just painted mine black like interior but my fan motor sounds like machine guns going off was few seconds now it’s got worse any idea to how fix that w-o taking whole dash apart
i bet the paint missing off your button came from a woman driving your car before you bought it haha ..... seriously, i had the same thing with mine and it hasnt worn any in the last 5 years cause i don't have rings or nails lol
What I love is that most of the issues I have ever had out of my S197 have been cheap, and DIY friendly.
Very true!
That water clog can cause the water to get on the Smart Junction Box -[SJB] (aka BCM) and cause it to fail !!! .. REALLY BAD, but fixable. It's right behind the passenger side kick panel. Get the PN number from it and find a junk yard one or on ebay and replace it, then do the 8 turn of the key trick and leave it on at the 8th turn and press lock on the key fob to reprogram it. (Hopefully you bought a good SJB.)
09 here, unclog those plugs behind the engine on both sides often, and carefully remove and preserve your leather panels and temporarily replace with plastic ones
Just got a 2006 GT and I see some of these issues already. I’ll be proactive and fix the others before they become issues! Thank you!
I had the same problem with alarm on my 2006 mustang. I solved the problem. The hood sensor located on the passenger side of the engine compartment. it is a hood sensor of bad design. the contacts are exposed. to fix slide the connector out you will notice it is slightly corroded. clean off with contact cleaner, spray a little into the connector slot plug in and no more problem. at least that was the problem on my stang.
I’ll have to give that a shot. Appreciate the info man!
Mine had the same "two o' clock in the am" problem. Using a scanner I found the hood switch was bad. My cure was to just cut the wires and tuck them out of sight. If someone was trying to open the hood with the alarm set meant they were already in the car and if the alarm hadn't gone off by then......
Thanks.
Mine might be that but I figured it did it with weight in passenger seat signaling no seatbelt.
also the door ajar switches could be the problem, cuz my 2007 gt/cs has the driver door switch broken and keeps upping and downing the window, and once locked and the window goes down, the alarm starts to scream. 20$ and 20 minut fix.
Wet floor, change your cabin air filter and unplug the drain at the same time.
Alarm... check the pin switch under the hood
Bad window gaskets floods car.
Thanks for the information in this video. It is appreciated.
I bought a 06' gt convertible with 25k miles on it, now the clock has 110k miles. The first issue I had was the alternator . I've replaced it three times now & the light on the cluster is intermittent.
The alarm is nothing but a headache. What I found out on mine that there is a 3rd horn in the rt. 1/4 panel. The alarm was going off & it pissed me off. I reached in & pulled the wires out of it.
On the water coming in the passenger side there's a "Smart junction box" that is in the pathway of water coming in. I pulled it out & cleaned up the corrosion & sprayed contact cleaner on it. Seems like it worked. The back glass on the convertible top started to separate from the glass/ top due to the adhesive getting old & hot. Living in Southern Nevada the temps reach 115° +, black top & interior add a little fuel to the fire. Hence, time for a new top. The list of things that suck about this S197 seems endless, but for some reason I still like the car.😂
Thanks again for posting this video.
The door panels… my 09 has both inserts missing, I just took an interior brush, cleaned all the loose junk off it, made an improvement, still might remove all the glue, but once it’s not flaky and discolored it looks halfway decent
I used the coverlay replacement panels. They are plastic but do have a textured surface . I kept the fabric on the doors for sound deadening purpose. Inserts will fit much better if fabric is removed. Only issue I have had is it slightly lifted in the front point area. Not really noticeable.
really ? I want to change my panel to red but overlay say is better with fabric on and that the panel are not designed for door without oem cover . I'll willl remove the door panel entirely so I can put some weight on them
You can actually pull out two drain plugs in the back of the engine bay to prevent it from clogging up and leaking water inside
156k on my V6 07 s197 and the only real issue I have had is the thermostat housing. That did cost me like $350 one day. But aside from that. My panels are fine. I'm. Im happy i have the plastic door panels lol. And the paint is a little rough but not too rough I think they changed the interior paint/plastics. All things considered. Has held up super well. I'm about to replace ball joints and tie rods. And that's it.
For that mileage, seems like the cars held up real well! Keep enjoying it my friend 🤝
07 v6. Only issue was my heater core hose and catalytic convertor. 240k miles
Oil pressure sensor is pretty easy to get to and easy to replace. I just swapped the o e from my crown Vic in last week. Of course your gauge could be the issue, mine would start working on e the sensor got hot. So replacing the sensor fixed it.
The door panel is a common problem. It's a piece of foam that is glued to the vinyl that falls apart from the heat and sun. I had a shop with commercial grade glue it back on. I have also used coverlay. They are good but doesn't fit as well as vinal.
I did have drains clog and drain into my passenger side sadly. Cleaned those out and got the water underneath the carpet and on top.
I have not had those other issues hopefully I won't.
just a tip for future people reading these comments:
a good diy fix for the door panels is a pre molded, solid piece to replace the vinyl. they go for about $100 and usually come with silicone glue that holds up to 120°F Vegas heat.
My 07 fuel gauge is jacked too.. When I start the car, it shows how much fuel i have... then it drops to E after about a minute. When it hits about 1/4 tank, it goes back to showing how much gas i have.... which is nice so I dont have to guess and I've never run out.
Yeah seems to be a very common issue on these cars. Gets quite annoying at times since mine literally refuses to work lol
water can also get inside the doors so make sure to pull the drain plugs on the bottom of the door and rinse it out if you hear sloshing..
How
@@klb12393 it can get in thru the window seal and the drain plugs are just on the bottom of the door.. sometimes leaves or stems can get in there and clog the drain.. 2 minute job..
After looking around, as I understand it any glue you try on the panel inserts will eventually let go because of the fiber backing on the insert itself. I just bought an '07, and the dealer had the the plastic panels installed for me. While it's just more plastic to go with all the other plastic in the interior, it looks fine. Also, on the alarm I have nothing. But, maybe there is a seperate fuse for the alarm you could pull from the fuse box.
Definitely going down the plastic route to replace mine. Tired of looking at it lol. And I did discover the alarm was/is getting set off because of the hood latch sensor. It has slight play and tricks the PATS system into thinking it’s getting broke into - theft mode which activates the alarm.
I use "wurth klebfix" super glue for my side inserts. Take your time apply push. Take some fabric push it into the void and compress it with a board and clamp it. Green painter tape to hold the edges in. Make sure you apply in optimum climate. Not to hot, cold, wet..works with old adhesive on it.
Heat cycles and extreme cold cycles are brutal on the foam. Ford bought the vinyl with foam already attached. Then they glued to door panels at an assembly plant. Fords glu holds.. the vinyl manufacturer did not lol. Options are, to glue every 8 years, or to replace with leather at upholstery shop for about 2k
Good to know! I’ll give it a shot
I used weldwood vinyl top adhesive. Its a contact cement so if you wait the prescribed time before rolling (yes with a sound deadener roller) the two materials together, it will not come off.... evar! To compete the job I simply tucked the edges in with the backside of a folding utility blade knife.
For the alarm going off randomly, it could possibly be your door jamb switches if youre getting a "driver ajar" while driving or sitting stationary. This switch going bad can cause your car to act like its open and trigger the driver door ajar while its locked and alarm is engaged causing it to go off as the computer thinks someone is opening the door. It got so annoying I just started locking it with the key and not setting the alarm because it kept going off until i replaced that part on the driver side.
Your issue sounded exactly like my alarm problem, from what I researched water gets in and messes up the switch which I see its raining in your video. I'd be curious to see what the issue was.
I got a 08. N got those exact problems too. But. Still love my Stang
Great car even with the quirks
I actually just pulled 2 black door panels out of a salvage yard to replace my gray ones (in the process of converting my gray interior to black) the leather on the driver side is absolutely perfect somehow, never seen the factory leather not peeling off before, if the passenger one was goodI would leave it but it's not so it's getting the plastic inserts
Upholstery glue fixed my door panels. Perfectly without taking apart..... Just glue and duct tape..😮No other issues just alternator, cam sensor and one coil needed the 13 years I owned my 06...
Good to know 👌🏻
@@SVTEvan And I raced it a lot..
pretty much hands down every time if your coolant gets too old and inefficient if you don't change it you will blow a thermostat and or water pump
Good to know!
how much should i change it
@@mandhandnobqp I want to know this too
Mine is suspension I done fixed everything on it but it makes this noise like a bolt is loosening idk how to explain it but it annoys me lmaoo
Mine ended up being the bolt on the top of the driver side strut. Ended up somehow getting loose. Torqued it down and the noise went away.
Yes sir, there is a fuse box exactly where that water is leaking into the car at - I don't have that problem thankfully - but you better pay attention to that area
look for the cltch pedal connection plastic piece..can break right away in front of a crossing...esp. with harder clutch
Never heard that one before
Yeah I made my own from a grade 8 1/2 bolt,
hey so i got mine and the lights inside the car stay on even after the car is off and locked. i can see thru the window that those lights stay on and sometimes only the passenger side turns off
I get that water leak I cleaned out the windshield gutter but I still get it , I’ll have to look into getting new black rubber panel thing from around the doors and roof of the car hopefully that fixes it
It's not just the cowl drains, check the AC drain too, I bought my car and the rubber grommets in the cowl were already removed for better drainage, mine ended up being the AC drain being clogged, dripped in the exact same spot
Gaskets under outside window trim rot and leak.
My ‘08 randomly pops the trunk release. Just driving along, check the instruments and I’ll have a “TRUNK AJAR” message and yes, it’s popped. Luckily the springs are weak so it doesn’t open up, just unlatches.
I’ve had the same thing happen multiple times
Another issue is the rear bumpers paint will chip or get webs
Haven’t personally experienced that yet but good to know! Thanks
thank you,,,,, I have a 2008 bullitt rebuild to a nascar level power of 900 hp to rear wheels but have my fuel guage be very slow and will not show full! so I as you dont know why these guages wear out so quickly. I only have 10 thousand miles on this car
It's the smart fuse box .It's from the clog drain when it fills with water it comes in and fuse box gets wet it makes the car do all kinds crap alarm goes off for no reason,windows hose up and down about a inch or two days tweaks out all bad
👍🏻
I like your red floor mats
Where did you get them
i have a 2010 GT premium, if i set the alarm with the windows down occasionally a fly will set it off .....im assuming they have the same security system ?
You may have the motion sensors on your dome light, if you have two spots on each side of the dome light housing that look like small speakers, you have motion sensors
I had a bad ground and ours was tweaking and the alarm was acting up after fixing it no problems for almost 2 years
Good to know. I’ll look into that!
On my 09 gt the cluster works good but u can hear the rpm gadge make noise when it moves kinda annoying
Yeah mines almost totally given out
Clutch pedal will break loose. Use lots of glue on that leather door strip. Lots of glue!
I’ve been putting it off for too long. Gotta get it glued back on.
Check your body control module, water has caused damage.
I've replaced the stepper motors. mine is a base model gt so the door panels are hard plastic so no issue there. Just wait till you have to change spark plugs lol. 233k miles and still drive it like I stole it.
233k miles and still running strong is awesome!
I'm so glad my mustang isn't the only one with an alarm sensor problem. It's linked to the sensitivity in the module behind the glove box. I tried to have my dealer turn it down when I bought the car but no luck. I just turn the key in the lock to lock the driver door and that doesn't alarm the system. 05 V6 fyi. It was so bad that a car driving down my street while the car was in the driveway would set it off.
Im looking at a 2008 Mustang convertible with 100,000 for 12,000
Absolutely beautiful car and 🤔 of pulling the trigger on getting it. What do y'all think?
Too expensive you could find a much lower mileage mustang for a little more
I just had my door panels redone at upholstery shop.
Nice! Need to get mine done sooner than later
Its not the body lines the water goes in through the cabin filter remove the little plugs and it should be better than how it was
Correct
They are duck bill plugs pull them out put screen over the top of it keep all debris out of there
Check you exterior window trim gaskets. They rot and leak..
Great vid sub’d !
Greatly appreciate that 🍻
Put plastic inserts in my doors and never looked back
I certainly need to do that
Spark plugs. Spark plugs. Spark plugs. The biggest issue on these cars are the spark plugs. If you have an 07 1/2 -09 you're good but anything previous you'd better be very careful removing plugs.. They are 2 piece and they break notoriously. If they break they drop into the cylinder then you have a big issue. The door panels are the #2 most common. The plugs are #1. Kinda shocked you have a mustang and don't know there is a fuse box in the passenger kick panel. Not being rude but know your stang bro. It's an honor to own a mustang. If you have the leak that results in water getting in the passenger side that is #3 most common and worst problem. It can ruin the entire fuse box and it can travel where the computer is and also ruin the computer which is minimum $1000. If you have an auto trans. #4. Be sure to never follow what Ford states that this transmission can go over 100,000 miles without service. Tell that to a trans guy and he will laugh his @$$ off. It needs to be done at normal increments. Maybe 25,000 miles MAx. Or you will be getting a rebuild as I did.... These are the top 4 problems for the 05-09. I have never even seen the gauge issue. Hope it doesn't happen to me. That will drive me insane and I would have to have that fixed or I'd go crazy
You're right about everything beside the transmission. Don't touch it unless you have to. Don't fix what's not broken. Sealed for a reason.
@BigSmokeLV I know that is what Ford says but every transmission person I've talked to laughs at it. They say that it's basically a pretty theory and is false. They all have recommended doing it as you would any other transmission. They all say having it sealed does t make the fluid last any longer
Every single one of these 05 to 09 cars did that w the door cards....ford should have been forced to take every single car back and fix it w something that would solve the problem...thats the worst looking garbage
I agree. Such a bummer and eye sore
I just painted mine black like interior but my fan motor sounds like machine guns going off was few seconds now it’s got worse any idea to how fix that w-o taking whole dash apart
Mine did start bubbling off until it was 17 yrs old , got my money's worth.
Re-did them with gator skin at an upholstery shop for $400
i bet the paint missing off your button came from a woman driving your car before you bought it haha ..... seriously, i had the same thing with mine and it hasnt worn any in the last 5 years cause i don't have rings or nails lol
Alarm goes off by itself? Is not the car but you have a ghost in your car , is very common for mustang!!
Thank you for letting me know ahead of time to be prepared for these awesome video can’t wait for 1k subs 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🥹
Of course bro! And thank you! ❤️