NIKE ZOOMX STREAKFLY VS THE REST | REBEL 2, TAKUMI SEN 8 & VAPORFLY NEXT%
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NIKE ZOOMX STREAKFLY VS THE REST | REBEL 2, TAKUMI SEN 8 & VAPORFLY NEXT%
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Today another video in the VS THE REST series, a new type of comparison, one running shoe in an out and out battle against many others! I have received loads of requests for comparisons of the NIKE STREAKFLY vs lots of other models. I shall work my way through the 2021 shoes to give a real feel for how it shapes up.
Featured today are the following.
NIKE ZOOMX VAPORFLY NEXT%
NIKE AIR ZOOM TEMPO NEXT%
ADIDAS ADIZERO TAKUMI SEN 8
NEW BALANCE FUELCELL REBEL 2
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Might be a rare time when we have slightly different views on this one. I liked the Streakfly but did not find it any game changer and, for me, the NEXT% 2 definitely did better at all my paces from easy warm up pace, through my marathon pace for about 5K to some my 5K/10K pace 3 min intervals. That is both on "feel" and in the "numbers" for my shoeoff video. True that the price of the Streakfly is a lot lower (well when it restocks!) but I already have the NEXT% as would many of our viewers so perhaps the question is more the reverse - do you need the Streakfly as well. If you have neither what is the better one to go for. I think "it depends" is the likely answer. Tempo NEXT% & Rebel v2 never did anything much for me so will take the Streakfly for sure. Less clear on Takumi Sen 8 as that did pretty well for me although still preferred the NEXT% and annoyingly my usual problem of being a fraction short in the largest UK 12.5. As for outsoles well it rarely is something that bothers me in road race shoes as been a while since fallen over in one - if ever. I have done muddy trail TTs in the NEXT% you showed so both the Streakfly and NEXT% v2 on a fairly flat country lane with the odd muddy patch that I did my testing on Sunday saw no issues at all although interesting that they did change it up here.
I don’t have either next% or streakfly, but I am considering them as an option for my racing shoes. The longest race is so would be 10k, so I am not sure which one to buy, I am currently going towards the streakfly because of its price. However it may not be either depending on the streakfly durability
Not sure I find the streakfly game changing. Just a fun and comfortable ride which left me enjoying my running with some good varied paces and a lower heart rate than other shoes. As such for £135 it’s a steal.
I got a pair of streakfly that should arrive today....since many of you on youtube seem to prefer the Next% that is my current race shoe, and since I do not run many 10ks and I have bought them just for that purpose, I mayreturn them straight away without even try them..probably a money waste for me and an impulse buy
You've grown too dependant on the carbon plate Tim.
Many many people still do not train in the "supershoes". Whilst the streak is being marketed as a 5k/10k, in practice im seeing it lending itself and a training shoe AND a racer for those that dont want a carbon plate and 40mm stack for every race. We are out there. Lets not forget the vaporfly was never intended for shorter distances but I believe nike did the right thing by reducing the price and the shank. They havent made a vaporfly with less stack. Theyve made a different shoe with I believe a very different purpose. Sure you can go ahead and put the vaporfly on every day for all runs and races.... Should you though. Do we all want to??? I'd argue no.
Thanks for the comparison to the Rebel V2, helps me know that the lack of torsional rigidity will aggravate my posterior tib. Probably why I love the Adios 6.
Yes much more stabilised in the Adios 6.
Will be using the streakflys for workouts whereas for my 5k races on course with pavement, will be using the Vaporfly. The extra zoom foam and the carbon plate is a game changer for speed.
Simple, nimble, and versatile. Music to my ears 🎵
It’s no game changing shoe. Just a really good shoe and that’s ok 👊
Thanks for the comparisons Ed! Really interesting to hear that the Streakfly works at lower paces and therefore is a viable daily. 2 months of life left in my Rebels, come on Nike, drop more before then!!
I am sure they will be keen to maximise the sales of these.
ZoomX foam is actually Pebax foam made by Arkema, which is available to other manufacturers. It has been used in the Endorphin Pros and Metaspeed Skys, which is why these shoes are as fast as the Next% compared to other shoes which uses carbon plates.
Yes i am very aware of this!
Also sticking up for the Next%2 which is still the daddy 👑 actually came down in price when originally released which was awesome 🤙🏽
Thanks for the comparison! ✨
It would be great if adidas will consider making a shoe just with a thinner layer of Lightstrike Pro and without all the rods and plates, and cut down the price!
An sl20 but with lightstrike pro only. No rods
Looks like an updated Zoom Elite except that it’s lighter, more expensive and won’t last as long. The Zoom Elite remains the most versatile shoe Nike made. I haven’t found anything that comes close.
Interesting. I'm a big fan of the rebel, and I find hard to believe that the upper would be so heavy. I would think the difference is on the rubber. But that is just me. The Rebel is a fanatic shoe, therefore, if you think the Nike is better, that has to b the best shoe ever designed. Cheers! Thanks for the film!
I love the rebel v1 and v2. Seriously versatile v2 and snappy pace v1. It’s gotta be the rubber and wider midfoot.
He didnt say the total 40 grams extra are from the upper. That being said when were talking about grams it all adds up. Slightly thinner in areas such as the tongue or the heel counter.
The fact that its not got a full plate is going to lend itself to a more versatile training shoe. Seems perfect for training AND racing.
Thank you again for this comparison video Edd! Hopefully this shoe will be the next best successor for my tempo next% that's already in its half - life stage 😮💨
Much love from the Philippines!
Hey Ranz. Very different feel to the tempo next% it’s like chalk and cheese. 👍🏼
How many miles/ks so far in the tempo? Mines at 700k still feel OK
@@danielkopperud8789 Mine is at 800k, the pods haven't bursted but it looks flat. So the shoe still has some cushion but the energy return is pretty stale in comparison.
Damn.. nice! About time to retire then 👍🏻👍🏻😅
Cheers Ed I belive that was your best sort of review on your channel you were biast as usual specially that you have taken aswell the lighter builds of us runers in
Kind regards from Germany mate :)
Much appreciated Robin 👍🏼
Great insight as always mate. Keep it up and thanks as always..
Thanks for the comparison review. Didn' t even know you had that OG green Next%! I have the Pink Blast and still use it sometimes, those were some really cool colors.
Those old green ones feel very brittle and spongy compared to the rubbery zoomx in the new shoes.
Thanks for the video! I am waiting patiently over here in the US. It will be mine. 🔥
I am sure it won’t be long 👍🏼
I’ve tried a few carbons now and as much as I benefit in my pace during the run, they seem to cause me too much discomfort in the following hours/days. Shins/calves ache like buggery! Not sure if it’s the ride or the pace but I just don’t get the same aches when running in non carbon shoes. Have high hopes for these when I can lay my hands on them 🙏
Lonely Avenue by Ray Charles is an all time classic.
I know I’ll be waiting awhile but I’m keen to try the NB Pacer, which should fall into the same category as the Takumi Sen8 and may be more versatile than the Streakfly.
I'm so looking foward to getting a pair of streakflys. It seems like it is ticking all of my boxes.
Been thinking as I read the comments streakfly v vapor fly , carbon plate v non carbon, price etc and the Atreyu artist came to mind. Very affordable ( $100u.s.) granted, it doesn’t seem to have the pop of the vapor fly but still a very smooth comfortable carbon plated shoe. It appears to be a versatile option for training and racing up to marathon distance. I think It could be a happy medium between a vapor fly and the streakfly when considering compression and road feel. Thought I’d add my two cents on a shoe that flys under the radar.
The next buy is clear now, ,.... will have to wait until available though.
And of course enjoyed your special flavour of reviewing, it allows you to do some facial and abdominus core training while seated ^^
Great comparisons, Edd! Much appreciated, as always. I guess my biggest question regarding the Streakfly is - do you really notice that midfoot shank? And if not, what's it good for? I wouldn't think you'd need it for stability as this is a featherweight racer. 🤔
I haven’t felt the shank at all. It’s quite prominent if you push down with your fingers. Underfoot it can’t be felt by me at least.
@@EDDBUD it might depend on where your foot strike is or how much pressure is applied. These were designed for elite athletes 🤷♂️. As long as it isn't an interference
Good video. Needed to see this
Thanks for tuning in
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Victory for the Nikeeee.
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I did not get if you would pick the Streakfly or a Next% for a 10k race. What is your opinion? I have bought them just for that purpose...probably a money waste for me and an impulse buy since I do not run many of them and I am focused on Marathons and Halfs....I may end up returning them, but I have a 10k this sunday so I am on the fence
Hey Ed! Great review. Taking the Streakfly out for my first session tomorrow so quite interesting to see what they will be like. If you do another instalment of streakfly vs the rest, I wonder if you could include the Reebok Run Fast Pro! Possibly the only shoe lighter than the Streakfly?? 👍🏽
May try it at the weymouth Parkrun tomorrow. 👍🏼
Love the comparisons. I wonder how the Sen 8 would’ve compared had they taken the Adizero Pro, kept the carbitex plate and went all Lightstrike Pro? 🤔
Yes it would have been an interesting vibe 👍🏼
Part of me sort of has a problem with a shoe that is designed to go flat after 13 miles so as not to directly compete with the more expensive next % 2. Then again I guess it sort of could be similar to having the adios 6 for up to half marathon and adios pro 2 for full. Anyway I won’t knock this shoe until I try it.
It’s probably going to be fine for most runners up to a half. But the low weight will be attractive to many who want a shoe that disappears at pace.
The Next% has actually been getting less expensive. The original Next% was $275 in the U.S. The Next% 2 dropped in price to $250 when it was released.
It’s back up to normal here in the uk.
@@EDDBUD That sucks. It's still $250 in the U.S., which is $25 cheaper than what the first Next%s were selling for.
Hi Edd, great comparisons. How does it feel compared to the puma liberate?
The liberate is more of a rebound material. This thing squashes away. It’s like a slice of an invincible run with a better upper.
comparing it against the rebel v2. would you go 12-15k in the streakflys? trying to replace my rebel v2s with a similar profile shoe. loving your comment that streakfly is a good shoe that just works. most of the time thats all that we need really.
A spicy turbo 2 🌶🤤
Epic review 😎
Glad you enjoyed this one 👊
Nice review as always just one question you compare it to the rebel v2 does the streakfly have the versatility of rebel because the rebel can be double up as a daily trainer and a race shoe does the streakfly can be double up that as well?
Interesting experience and feedback...as always Edd👍 It will be interesting to see where (if) you would use this as your go-too shoe for a given race distance (eg....would it be preferable over 5k to the NN%2 or ATS8) or is it superior to these on fast workouts or threshold efforts against these and other shoes eg Saucony Pro/Speed.....Will it end up being a really nice light shoe for speed orientated sessions but not quite the pinnacle choice when comes to racing? Glad it's a chunk off the TS8 price though!!...........................interesting to see how it pans out as Tim and Alex F had very similar experiences, with you and Andy having a different, but again similar experience...... so think it will be one of those Marmite ones....at 135 quid though, it'll be hard to resist a throw of the dice. 😁
It’s fun at the end of the day. Quite a useful tool and I think those who are more used to training in non plated shoes are enjoying it.
Great comparison but for once I disagree with you, at first pass I don’t think the Streakfly feels that special or feels more versatile than the Rebel V2 which can be used daily, tempo & for HMs. It’s okay value wise but again not as good as the Rebel V2 that can be had for less than 100 Earth credits.
I haven't been this excited for a 5k shoe since the Lunaracer. No daily trainers left at Nike for this #bigbonedflatfootedrunner that interest me, but if it says "Fly", TAKE MY MONEY! Now bring on the races, already!
I currently use the Endorphin Speed and was wondering how the Streakfly compares to it? Would the Streakfly be suitable for all your training runs and perhaps keep the Endorphin Speed for racing, or vise versa? Thanks
I have the next%2 Vaporfly. I think the new saucony endorphin pro 3 in june will kill it. What are your thoughts? When will nike update the Vapor?
Do you expect something good of puma?
Thanks
I'd buy some, if I could get my hands on any
Hi Ed, thank you for your review! I was missing though the one with saucony speed 2 maybe? They are my current shoes for tempo training and up to 10k races.
How would you compare streakfly with them?
Much lower stack and more compressive. The speed2 has more rigidity. Though are heavier on foot. Better upper on the streakfly.
Overhyped training shoe for faster efforts. The next% and the sen 8 will get you better times on raceday .
Saying that it's a good price for a tempo shoe that's comfortable, so worth a purchase .
Have you worn the shoe?
@@EDDBUD yep and I like it , but as a tempo day. I prefer the sen 8 ....I've worn that too Ed, which is how I tend to form my opinions 😉
Kind of wondering if it's a good replacement for the Epic React FK2s?
Still missing those after the beefier Infinity React FK2s.
Also would it make for a good treadmill shoe?
It looks like someone is in love with a shoe 😍😃!
The legs feel insanely good. 15 miles over two days and I’m fresh.
@@EDDBUD do you still prefer the Streakfly rather than the Takumi? I went half a size down with the Streakfly and no problem at all with the upper.
I would think Streakfly vs Adios 6 would be a good one, Edd. No rods!
Maybe another round of comparisons soon 👍🏼
@@EDDBUD looking forward!
For those who have a Pegasus turbo or turbo 2, is the streakfly a worthy successor? What are the differences in feel?
Not at all for me. Turbo wins every time. I feel like the streakfly was meant to be like the turbo but it just isn’t
Very different feel. Lower profile toebox. Much lighter and better upper than the turbo 2. Underfoot it’s extremely compressive without the turbos react layer.
Bud,una domanda : quali sono secondo te le scarpe A3 con minore superficie a contatto con il suolo ?
How do you think it compares to the Endophin Pro 2, if at all? I have a brand new pair still waiting for spring weather.
And, do you suggest the Streakfly for heavier runners that stay around 10K distances?
Thanks for the great comparison!
Pro is a firmer more guided shoe. This is out and out squashy fun.
@@EDDBUD Awesome, my 235lbs frame (and joints for that matter) is ready for some squashy fun...lol
Thanks from across the pond! Not sure if you remember, but I'm the Army Soldier that was in South Carolina last year, I'm in Arizona now, but in the mountains. Average elevation is 6800ft above sea level; running is not as fun here as it was in SC (about 700ft above sea level), but what is life without challenges right...lol
Cheers Mate!
If I don't have the vaporfly, would streakfly be worth buying?
Yes absolutly. Fun and uber light shoe
How does it compare to the turbo 2??
coming from NB fuelcell, i hate the adidas lightstrike. Yet to try a nike and almost bought a tempo next but am awaiting for this
This is closer to fuelcell. More compressive though.
@@EDDBUD i guess i will fall in love with it. Adidas just never click on me.
Sounds like Nike hit it out of the park
4:39 because Nike knew they could get people to buy both..
This is all just a big tease as it’s sold out already in Canada. I was able to score a vaporfly on discount and it fits so I will probably pass on the streakfly as I don’t think I need it now.
I am sure these will drop in greater numbers very soon.
Same, I got the bright mango alphaflys on sale instead
Takumi Sen will probably last twice as long as Streakfly...
That remains to be seen.
What about Streakfly vs. Adios 6?
Perhaps in a future video. Very different shoes.
Hey, do you guys reckon ifI was happy and okay doing 22mile long runs in the rebel v2 I'll be alright doing the same in the streakfly? Thanks for any feedback!
I don’t see why not. It’s a tad more compressive than the rebel 2. But if that felt fine then i think this will too. Less narrow in the heel than the rebel 2 also.
Hey edd how does the sl20 compare tothe streakfky?
The original? The fly is much more cushioned
Non sembra proprio una scarpa da gara 5/10 km .
l’impressione è che sia una buona opzione per allenamenti distanza media . Non pensò che le acquisterò .
Thanks for the review. So what’s become of the Peg Turbo? I reportedly was supposed to make a comeback this year?
No further sign of that one. Maybe Nike playing the cards close to their chest.
How does the streak fly compare to the turbo 2
Turbo 2 is my go to shoe for training. I have several on ice since they stopped making it
@@runningmanification Unfortunately I was not as astute as you Cain. I've pretty much worn down the 2 pairs I had. Been using the Vaporfly Next 2% as a daily trainer. Great shoe but a tad unstable due to the narrow sole profile.
@@binoj1967 sometimes you can find a pair on stockx for a bit under retail. Just don’t go for my size ;)
@@runningmanification thank you for the tip Cain. I’m a 11.5 so let me know what your size is and I’ll be sure to not indulge in that. Take care!!! :)
how do you think it compares to the asics metaracer?
I’m disappointed with my metaracers. The outsole at the toe is separate; bad design for durability because it started peeling up. And the performance isn’t good so they just get taken out for bike riding
@@mttcwll Hmmm.. I think I would tend to agree with that. The outsole is mine after only about 200km is looking thinner that what I would expect, especially in forefoot to toe-off area.
For me the metaracer performs ok for my 10K pace, but somehow I struggle to take it to my 5K pace (or to maintain it), unlike for example the skechers razor 3 which I used for my speed sessions previously.
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@@EDDBUD 🤣
It was on my list of possible shoes..from reviews it seems to lack the forefoot stack and the structure to make a fast race shoe..it takes a good midsole structure to not bottom out during a fast 5k ..the rebel V1,razor 3, asics sky..as an aside question has anyone tried the next%V2 by you with the flyknit upper? I really don't like the standard upper and the outsole and I see you can make it very much like the vaporfly 4%..have never seen a review of it..
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