To people who say they broke up, yes, however 4 days ago they released Drumless Random Access Memories, which is what I guess OP meant by “their new album”
What I've learned is that the talk box is better if you want the keyboard to sound like someone actually singing. Because you can move a lot better like a human voice. But the vocoder is better if you want harmony because the talkbox cannot do Harmony unless you multitrack it. Vocoder has more of a robotic sound. Depends on what song you're using it for or what effect you want
you CAN do harmony on a talkbox it just doesnt sound very good as the layered harmonics get distorted on the limited contact speaker, “perfect” harmonies like 4th and 5ths should sound fine tho
On a talk box, you are not producing sound. The sound is playing into your mouth via the pipe. The sound exits your mouth, and you shape the sounds with your mouth.
@@Goldensky-zs2lm yes, when talking you shape the words with your mouth, more precisely with the position of your lips and tongue, and with the help of your palate, throat and teeth (that's for english, some other languages can also use the nasal cavity for example). Then you expel air out of your body through your mouth, and the way your mouth and everything inside is positioned, you will get many different sounds. If your vocal cords vibrate, it's called a voiced sound, if they don't it's called a voiceless sound. So when you put the talkbox in your mouth, you're essentially blowing air that's vibrating to the frequency of the note you are playing into your mouth, thus creating a very nice effect. And since your mouth is pronoucing words, the air will "travel" in your mouth and you'll be able to hear what you're saying. Pretty amazing stuff if I do say so myself.
depends on what patches you're using. Talkbox is limited with how well you can articulate speech because you've got this big thing hanging in your mouth and you're not actually making any sounds, so you have to force consonants out and stuff, it's weird. The vocoder you just sing/speak like normal
They almost never did live vocals but they did record a lot of their vocals in studio, like the two songs shown here. They did do live vocals for Teachers in 1997 which is the one occasion I know of
@@samir_216the original idea behind vocoder was to strip down sound to an envelope at a set of frequencies to cut down bandwidth at long distance calls and whatnot (VOice enCODER) Then somebody figured that it sounds kinda fun if you substitute a constant grid with chords.
It would be far less intelligible. Vocoders work best when singing a single note very clearly and over enunciating. None of the original signal is getting through, it's using the waveforms(amplitude etc) and applying it to a synth. Basically digitally recreating the mouth shapes
They use a vocoder, some guy actually found the exact one they used and made a shit post song that sounds like daft punk. Just look up daft punk pee is stored in the balls
@@treeman73272 Homework - pretty sure they just pitched up their voice samples (see Teachers and Daftendirekt) along with a talkbox (ATW) Discovery/HAA - Talkbox, unless you count the autotune on OMT and the raw vocals on Too Long, along with the Homework method on Technologic RAM - yeah that's a vocoder alright
There actually is an electronic larynx iirc. I heard about it in a video about a man who's vocal chords were crushed in a car accident, leaving it his only way to talk until a surgery was able to give him the donated voice box of a man who'd passed away recently. It's basically the same thing as a talk box, but more compact and I dont think you choose pitch. But it has a tube that plays a sound in the back of your throat so it bounces around and out your mouth, the same way the talkbox works.
Reminds me of the scene in Scary Movie 3 where a mute man uses a similar device to speak, which freaks out the president and makes him think he's under attack by aliens.
@@Ghost-3123you can change pitch, but it's just a knob on the front which is inefficient for singing. A talkbox essentially replaces the knob with a keyboard
“You don’t have to use your vocal cords at all” You see I understood what he meant but all I could picture was someone shoving that tube down their throat in replacement of their vocal cords
@corn pop To correct them slightly, a talkbox works by combining your voice with the sound of the instrument you're using, which does give an effect of 'pitch correcting' your voice when you talk, but the pitch of your voice isn't actually changing, it's just combining with the synth you're using.
Sino Echo chamber vocal technique it's when you vibrate sound through your sinus passages it creates an electronic sound it's one of the methods used to make Donald Duck voices as well as robot voices
I don’t think it actually matters if he does, it’s the texture that’s applied, tbf im not entirely sure but I’ve used vocoders before on vocals and the vocals pitch doesn’t matter only the notes that the ‘modulator’ is playing aka the chords or melody
well, as you know, he was playing the notes of the song on the keyboard in front of him. you are asking, if he was ALSO singing the correct notes, with his vocal chords. but, the answer is, he wasn't using his vocal chords at all. using a talk box is like 'whispering,' you aren't making a pitch, the sound is already at the pitch, going into your mouth. you are simply forming it into the 'shape' of words, by moving your mouth
I've seen a talk box before and I legitimately didn't know what the tube was for, I thought it acted kind of like how the vocoder actually works, not the other way around. Neat!
When he used the Vocoder I so wish he he said: “"Cries and screams are music to my ears." "Lazerbeak eject, operation surveillance." "Ravage eject, operation destruction." "Rumble, Lazerbeak, Ravage eject, operation warfare."
В умелых руках все звучт как надо. Вот это пример отличного музыкального блоггера. Он хотя бы не кривляется на камеру, а что то дельное показывает. Лайк однозначно.
I greatly appreciate the straightforwardness of this video - full explanation with demonstration in 28 fucking seconds. No annoying intro, no 2-minute-+ preamble speech, no promos, no bull-pucky. Wish all of RUclips was like this, thanks.
Видеоклипы
"doin' it right" is such a banger.
Hell yeah
Bro ... had Rebecca Black vibes 🤣🤣🤣 but the video was dope
Ayo
Its a real song by a band called daft punk
@@ShaemiII I know but it just had some of those vibes the way he did it...video was dope tho!!
"Is a talk booooxxceewwwww"
Rel
"Yo"
Yoooooooooooooooo
That got me cringely dying
@@cjwag5 your videos got me cringely dying
*_DAFT PUNK 🔥 Definitely going to listen to their new album again…_*
ooo bad news
They broke up sadly
I love Daft Punk
... tragedy... they are no longer together
To people who say they broke up, yes, however 4 days ago they released Drumless Random Access Memories, which is what I guess OP meant by “their new album”
What I've learned is that the talk box is better if you want the keyboard to sound like someone actually singing. Because you can move a lot better like a human voice. But the vocoder is better if you want harmony because the talkbox cannot do Harmony unless you multitrack it. Vocoder has more of a robotic sound.
Depends on what song you're using it for or what effect you want
Yes, except it sounds like someone actually singing, with a tube sticking out of their mouth!
you CAN do harmony on a talkbox it just doesnt sound very good as the layered harmonics get distorted on the limited contact speaker, “perfect” harmonies like 4th and 5ths should sound fine tho
@@FrodinirPeter Frampton does a great job of harmony on the talkbox
I was fully expecting him to say "let's see what they sound like together"
*EXACTLY!!!*
Same
now i am not sleeping without hearing how they sound together.
I need that man
Doing so would destroy the universe, I wouldn’t recommend.
So I can speak megalovania now?
Yes.
I can speaking Toriel now :)
Do it in scat (jazz vocalization)
@@klepsolas4201 perfect username and profile pic for this comment.
hell yeah im gonna speak smart race
So that’s how TheLivingTombstone made the FNAF Security Breach song
He learned that from WoodenToaster. Rainbow Factory used a Rocktron Banshee talkbox which is the same model used in Livin on a Prayer by Bon Jovi
EVERYTHING IS A PROBLEEEEEEEMM
Or My Ordinary Life
Zapp and Roger, best talkbox ever lived!
Yes my favorite
"Harder Better Faster Stronger" uses a vocoder, specifically the DigiTech Talker pedal.
ok... im pretty sure he knows. he was using that as an example.
Yeahhhh
"Erm actually☝️🤓"
@@esc4pe296 why tf you saying im a nerd
Thanks for the background info! I wasn't sure if the talk box was around at that time. I'll have to do some more research
"Doofnshmirtz evil inncorporated..."
YES
amen brotha
Phines n Ferb
Hey ferb Ino wat we’re doing tday
Wait were s pery🤨
So now, I know how Soundwave voice was made in G1 Transformers
To be completely accurate, it was Frank Welker performing his Dr. Claw voice into a vocoder that produces Soundwave's unique voice.
@@michaelfitzsimmons8393 I know it's him, I'm just saying that's how they did the voice effect for Soundwave
Dammit, now I have to go listen to my Daft Punk collection.
Now say : "your intelligence is only overshadowed by your stupidity"
- transformers -
Wdym transformers...
@@davinci_5565 this is actually a quote from an episode from transformers G1 if Im not mistaken
My guy didnt know what transformers was
@@Spookeh- nah i own several transformers figures i was just wondering which character said the quote since he just put *transformers*
@@Spookeh- haha
Don't have to use your vocal chords at all? The sounds come out of the tube?!? I now understand that thing much less than I did before watching this
Some dude made a song about the talkbox called "How to talkbox", recommend you check it out
On a talk box, you are not producing sound. The sound is playing into your mouth via the pipe. The sound exits your mouth, and you shape the sounds with your mouth.
The talkbox makes perfect sense to me now lol
@DrSipp so its just you mouthing the words?
That's so much cooler now.
@@Goldensky-zs2lm yes, when talking you shape the words with your mouth, more precisely with the position of your lips and tongue, and with the help of your palate, throat and teeth (that's for english, some other languages can also use the nasal cavity for example). Then you expel air out of your body through your mouth, and the way your mouth and everything inside is positioned, you will get many different sounds. If your vocal cords vibrate, it's called a voiced sound, if they don't it's called a voiceless sound. So when you put the talkbox in your mouth, you're essentially blowing air that's vibrating to the frequency of the note you are playing into your mouth, thus creating a very nice effect. And since your mouth is pronoucing words, the air will "travel" in your mouth and you'll be able to hear what you're saying. Pretty amazing stuff if I do say so myself.
talk box is much smoother i think
depends on what patches you're using. Talkbox is limited with how well you can articulate speech because you've got this big thing hanging in your mouth and you're not actually making any sounds, so you have to force consonants out and stuff, it's weird. The vocoder you just sing/speak like normal
The Vocoder got me ascending
So daft punk actually were performing live? I thought it was like accepted playback.
They almost never did live vocals but they did record a lot of their vocals in studio, like the two songs shown here. They did do live vocals for Teachers in 1997 which is the one occasion I know of
Huuuuge leap, you thought correctly the first time
@@evan_headley ah yes, the alive 1997 twitch stream
I don’t think so, but they use it at least once in live performance
roland vp9000 used for Harder Better Faster Stronger not Talk Box.
That vocoder is INSANE
Basically a voice changer lmao
@@samir_216the original idea behind vocoder was to strip down sound to an envelope at a set of frequencies to cut down bandwidth at long distance calls and whatnot (VOice enCODER)
Then somebody figured that it sounds kinda fun if you substitute a constant grid with chords.
it's epic
Me if I had that “Five nights at freddyyyyyyyyys”
Talk box is this dudes whole personality.
Could be worse. His whole personality could be wrestling.
Me waiting for him to use the talk box into the vocoder:
it would sound mostly the same, maybe a little angrier since talk box is a harsher sound than singing/talking
It would be far less intelligible. Vocoders work best when singing a single note very clearly and over enunciating. None of the original signal is getting through, it's using the waveforms(amplitude etc) and applying it to a synth. Basically digitally recreating the mouth shapes
I also want to hear the song lyrics through the 'wrong' instrument to hear how weird they sound.
Exactly what I thought
So I'm not alone
“iS a TaLkBoOoX… yEaAwWw”
"and this, ✨Is a vocoder✨
Yeah
The Weeknd
Alicia Keys
Charlie Puth
doot do doo da doot doo doobwop doo badoop ba dum da doobwop yeaaaow
the "this is a talk boooxx" reminded me of that one part like "one time ago it was all for a show" in the living tombstone song for fnaf sb
Sharing talking boxes must be interesting
Yes doc
I'd imagine there'd be some mono-tone happening
Be quiet brony.
It’s usually switching the tube but most are just single person
Ok
“Is a talk booooox” I don’t know why I could listen to that all day
Theres a filter of a robot with a song that sounds very similar to this it sounds sick. If yk link it to us 👇
link
Lmao ikrrr I've been listening to this for idk how many times
Well on the other hand i despise the sound ge made
@@doge82507 mood
Talkbox team ⬇️
Talkbox is what Zap & Rodger used on their vocals
I think he was gonna say "Doin ya mom" instead of doing it right. Ray William Johnson changed my life
ignore that last notif, i found a remastered version
but this is probably what you were thinking of
ruclips.net/video/-JNNTuFQ5zw/видео.html
@@ndnprct3 I actually risked clicking a link in RUclips comments, and it was exactly what I wanted. Thank you kind commenter.
@@ndnprct3 didn’t know this existed and I’m glad it’s part of my life now lol thanks for sharing
@@ndnprct3 I wasn’t going to initially click it but then I saw the replies and now I regret nothing, lmao that was amazing
@@ndnprct3 thank u king 👑
Plot twist: he is Daft Punk Face Reveal
Nope. Daft Punk knows the lyrics to Doin it right
That’s not daft punk and if it was where’s the other one cuz I’m a true daft punk fan and know there’s two😉
Funfact daft punk are french
The two of Daft Punk
Vocoder better if I'm honest
Thanks for showing me how daft punk made their lyrics sounds like they did
They use a vocoder, some guy actually found the exact one they used and made a shit post song that sounds like daft punk. Just look up daft punk pee is stored in the balls
@@treeman73272
Homework - pretty sure they just pitched up their voice samples (see Teachers and Daftendirekt) along with a talkbox (ATW)
Discovery/HAA - Talkbox, unless you count the autotune on OMT and the raw vocals on Too Long, along with the Homework method on Technologic
RAM - yeah that's a vocoder alright
Yea
Talkboxes can change mute people!!!!!! And every time they “talk” they sing too!!!!
Thats actually a really friggin cool idea
Does this mean we can finally hear snake eyes speak?!?!
There actually is an electronic larynx iirc. I heard about it in a video about a man who's vocal chords were crushed in a car accident, leaving it his only way to talk until a surgery was able to give him the donated voice box of a man who'd passed away recently.
It's basically the same thing as a talk box, but more compact and I dont think you choose pitch. But it has a tube that plays a sound in the back of your throat so it bounces around and out your mouth, the same way the talkbox works.
Reminds me of the scene in Scary Movie 3 where a mute man uses a similar device to speak, which freaks out the president and makes him think he's under attack by aliens.
@@Ghost-3123you can change pitch, but it's just a knob on the front which is inefficient for singing.
A talkbox essentially replaces the knob with a keyboard
"Its too late corn pop, i already vocoded your voice to gansta paradise"
"Is a talk box, you."
"Random Access Memories" is one of the best albums of all time.
Absolutely
It's nothing compared to Discovery.
@@rosetta97 I am 100% serious. I stack Discovery well above RAM.
Never heard of it. Random Access Memories is pretty good though
@@pc_buildyb0i935oh DEFINITELY
When this guy says "working har", my brain goes to heaven.
I wish he made a full version
It’s “Work it harder, make it better, do it faster, makes us stronger”
@@FivePointFive5 more than ever
Hour after
Our work is
Never over
@@eefy4216 it’s literally a song from daft punk what do you mean bro????
that "ew" Got me laughing
Five nights freedys songs be like
i was try to comment that
He should of said “Voltron, defenders of the universe”.
“You don’t have to use your vocal cords at all”
You see I understood what he meant but all I could picture was someone shoving that tube down their throat in replacement of their vocal cords
"Ferb, i know what we're gonna do today"
People who had an operation on their throats and lost their vocal cords use a kind of talkbox but it's smaller because it hasn't notes to sing.
@corn pop He meant you don’t really need to sing. Just talk into it. It’s basically an auto tune tube
listen if i could have a sick robo voice you think i wouldnt take that opportunity?
@corn pop To correct them slightly, a talkbox works by combining your voice with the sound of the instrument you're using, which does give an effect of 'pitch correcting' your voice when you talk, but the pitch of your voice isn't actually changing, it's just combining with the synth you're using.
Honestly talk box sounds like the moonbase alpha thing
When he introduced the talkbox I thought he was going to sing Now this comes from inside
Does anyone else find it hilarious that he says “talk box” with all this flare… but then “vocoder” is like meh… 🤣
The downside of a vocoder is your voice kinda has to be monotone, which makes it harder to show expressions
Yes
i really like vocoder because it makes your voice sounds more melodical
"But how did Daft Punk use those without taking off their helmets?"
It's in their helmets
Sino Echo chamber vocal technique it's when you vibrate sound through your sinus passages it creates an electronic sound it's one of the methods used to make Donald Duck voices as well as robot voices
@@sethshapiro-hay7509 wow. That's wild.
@@circle7motorsports one has a talkbox and one has a synthesizer
You can see on some live performances that that tube is going from back of thier helmet
The talk box sounds a whole lot funkier than the vocoder. I prefer it.
Five nights at freedoms songs be like
Wish he said “doing it right” a second time at the end
Zapp i want to bw youre man.
Can’t believe you didn’t do “California… knows how to party” on the talk box.
Man, that song is older than 90% of the people that will watch this video hahaha
I’ve seen so many videos with talk boxes and still none have done that song it’s so sad
Now let me welcome everybody to the wild Wild West, a state that’s untouchable like Elliot Ness
@@channingtaintum 😔
I’m sure he has never heard that song
Zapp vs Styx
"Work it harder, make it better!" *dirty mind activated*
"Talk boooox" hmmmmmm....
"You've been blinded by stardom."
YOOO FNAF LETS GO (im very very late, im aware)
@@YourLocalDingus1stWhich song is it?
@@grape_protogen this comes from inside by the living tombstone such a banger song
yes finally
"ITS A TALKBOOOOX! YeOw"
edit: OMG 100 LIKES
And this...
Is a vOcOdEr.
Work it harder make it better
Edit 99 likes*
@@Antonio-xn6do no, i have 100 likea
@@Antonio-xn6do likes*
I want to hear someone trying to sing different notes through a vocoder held in one note 😂
Bro just summoned This Comes from inside Fandom
When he says "Talk box"
It sounds FNAF SB Song This Comes from Inside cuz of how the tone goes lol
Yep, just what i was thinking same
good to know I'm not the only one who noticed
Dude you are an incredibox and not talk box
I've play 5he games and seen the music and it did
Yesyesyesyesyes
and this.. ✨〰️🌈is a vocoder🌈〰️✨
This right here… 🤖🎵 Is a Talk Booooox yo! 🎵🤖
@@1GrayGamer 😂 thanks!! I didn’t know what to do for it but you’ve got it spot on
@@savnac no prob my guy!
Talkbox=talking inside out
Vocoder=omnipotent cosmic voice
TWRP and Daft Punk🤤
TWRP YASSSS
I was like" this guy is trying to sing wayy too hard"then he sang doin it right
PLEASE DO A FULL COVER OF THE VOCODOR ONE, THAT WAS REALLY AWESOME
Daft punk - get funky
Full song
@@the_hi_guy__6121 it's doin it right
I think that talkbox sounds "harder, better, stronger"
“California… Knows how to party!”
💯👌🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🥶🗿🗿
Why does his voice remind me of that one dude who speaks in the background of a toy commercial
Nah bro why are both Pringle
@@Pring1z yoooooooooooo
cuz he makes you wanna buy this stuff lol
Yes, literally one of the greatest artists of all times.
@Joanna the sound goes through the tube, into your mouth, then out of your mouth in the shape of the words you form with your lips.
I disagree @Hyeroc 🌚 he's good but not close to greatest
@@Majkino_djete my bad I was talking about daft punk.
“Long time a go it was ask for a show…”
Normal voice vs turboflex voice belike:
One turns your voice into music and the other turns the music into your voice
Basically.
He NEEDS to sing This Comes From The Inside on it
Talkbox fans: 💪
“You got the talkbox fever”
Why do I literally love how it “auto tuned” his voice and it went “Is a ✨talkbox✨”
Is a✨ tAlkbOooOOoox yEaaaww✨
Literally kinda sounded like Quackity
😂
No it didn't. He didn't speak at all.
I don’t get these types of comments, it’s just explaining what happened.
the vocoder sounds like a g major effect, cool!
"this right here, is a talkbooooox you"
“Yeow”
Yeow
Didn't realize that a talk box works that way
That's really cool
Explains the constant vocal with no room for breath you hear in some songs that use one
@@torunsmok5890 yeah, never thought about that before
Vocoders are also partly how soundwave's old voice was created as well as giving metrocops their weird voices.
“This… is a talkbooooOOOOOOOXEewwwwww” “and this…. *ascends* is a vocoder”
(~‾▿‾)~ work it harder make it better
Aye thanks for reminding me to go listen to random access memories lol.
Thats what im boutta do rn 🤣
Do both at the same time. That would be awesome 👌
That would be overkill. And stupid.
@@gerroldmayfield3346why are you judging yet haven't seen the work done to begin with?
I like that the vocoder sounds different depending on the voice, leaving each one with more identity
I want him to do both at the same time to see how it sounds
I have a question… when you sang the “doing it right”, did you sing it in tune by habit? Or did you talk / sing in monotone?
I don’t think it actually matters if he does, it’s the texture that’s applied, tbf im not entirely sure but I’ve used vocoders before on vocals and the vocals pitch doesn’t matter only the notes that the ‘modulator’ is playing aka the chords or melody
@Joanna what? Memes? Those are some bangers from daft Punk
well, as you know, he was playing the notes of the song on the keyboard in front of him. you are asking, if he was ALSO singing the correct notes, with his vocal chords. but, the answer is, he wasn't using his vocal chords at all. using a talk box is like 'whispering,' you aren't making a pitch, the sound is already at the pitch, going into your mouth. you are simply forming it into the 'shape' of words, by moving your mouth
I've seen a talk box before and I legitimately didn't know what the tube was for, I thought it acted kind of like how the vocoder actually works, not the other way around. Neat!
I will always see a vocoder as Peter griffin falling down the stairs vocoded to gangtas paradise
Talk with a vocoder through the talkbox
When he used the Vocoder I so wish he he said: “"Cries and screams are music to my ears." "Lazerbeak eject, operation surveillance." "Ravage eject, operation destruction." "Rumble, Lazerbeak, Ravage eject, operation warfare."
Don't have to use your vocal chords at all? The sounds come out of the tube?!? I now understand that thing much less than I did before watching this
Lol I love how he uses daft punk.
"is a taaaaaaaaalkBO0OoOOX yyyyyow."
В умелых руках все звучт как надо. Вот это пример отличного музыкального блоггера. Он хотя бы не кривляется на камеру, а что то дельное показывает. Лайк однозначно.
I have heard doing it right so many times on simpleflips streams lol
Plot twist: the talkbox and the vocoder aren't real, he just speaks like that on-demand.
Lol
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I greatly appreciate the straightforwardness of this video - full explanation with demonstration in 28 fucking seconds. No annoying intro, no 2-minute-+ preamble speech, no promos, no bull-pucky. Wish all of RUclips was like this, thanks.
Bro the lama is just chillin on his Desk top up there lol
the way the "yeaw" diminuendoed.
I think 💭 he said ew
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😃
Doin it right is one of my favorite Daft Punk songs and its highly underrated. Nice to see you use that song as an example
As a guitarist, the talkbox is my absolute favorite instrument.
The best Producer using Vocoder is Zedd 👍👍👍
Oh so that’s how all those famous songs came in and play