SONOS ARC | Product Announcement
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- The HiFi Brothers bring you a first look at the all-new Sonos ARC - Dolby Atmos soundbar. The Arc is now available for pre-order off the Sonos website for $799.
Whether you're new to Sonos or looking for one of their Home Theater products this may very well be one of the best Dolby Atmos soundbars available.
For those of us with an existing Sonos soundbar (Playbar, Playbase & Beam), will it be worth upgrading? As the Arc is not yet available it may be up for debate.
New products not mentioned: Sonos Five & Sub (Gen 3)
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Update: The first actual product reviews on the Sonos Arc are now out! Here is a great article from a credible source: www.engadget.com/sonos-arc-review-dolby-atmos-soundbar-010039560.html
After personally living with the Arc for the past week, I can honestly say the person who wrote this article must not have a good ear from music because the Arc is NOT a good product for music reproduction at all. It is harsh in its highs, it breaks down at volume levels past maybe 40% and if you send it a good recording of female vocals or maybe a solo piano, it almost hurts your ears with how bright it sounds. At the price point, a true disappointment. It is decent for movie soundtrack reproduction, but even there I found dialogue to be popping at times with the harsh "S" sound especially with some female dialogue. Just not impressed with the Arc and I like Sonos products and own several throughout my home.
I Appreciate your Video
I've got the Sonos Playbase, x2 Sonos SL mini speakers, and the Sonos Sub. I've had them for about a year now and it changed my entire experience with watching movies, listening to music and playing games. The sound is amazing and love that you can automatically tune it depending in what kind of room you are in. With that said, seeing the name Dolby in the product is very tempting, knowing how good the Sonos quality is. I'll prob wait another year or 2 to upgrade my base for the price. Anyone thinking on jumping on Sonos, I highly recommend it.
I'm probably in the same boat. I've had the Playbar for about 6 months and it's awesome! I'll upgrade at some point but not in the immediate.
Same here, not in any rush. The Playbase is great!
Your Sonos videos have helped me so much (specifically the one about buying a playbar in 2020)! Was on the verge of getting a playbar & sub when Sonos made the teaser announcement for May 6th. Glad the timing worked out and I waited to see the new Arc and sub. I'm still attached to the playbar but think I'll be an early adopter and go with their new products. Thanks for the videos!
Being we didn't have the ARC for a full review, yet, if Sonos' track record tells us anything is that this may be one of the best Dolby Atmos Soundbars out there, well worth the $799 price tag. Anyone new to Sonos or without one of their soundbars should pull the trigger asap!
However, it's worth noting that upgrading from a Playbar or Playbase, especially for those of us that have had those products for quite some time, may want to wait a little while. We can only wait and hear! Thx
HiFi Brothers are you even going to do a review when it comes out?
@@larryraigrodski5381 100%
HiFi Brothers thanks looking forward to it. still thinking about Pre-ordering still unsure. I can return the beam because of costco’s 90 days but it’s 470 dollars more.
I just pre-ordered the ark at the Sonos site can’t wait to get it if I don’t like it I can always return it but I doubt that.
Been on the sonos bandwagon for about 10 years now , why put ARC connection why not just let you connect direct to soundbar like LG AND PANASONIC DO, hdmi in , hdmi out also no DTS X. Will not be buying this product to replace my playbar , will just buy a different brand .
I would agree. Not having HDMI passthrough could be a deterrent for some people.
You should make a video saying is it worth it to spend the extra money if you don’t have ether.
We definitely will as soon as we get our hands on one. 👍
HiFi Brothers looking forward to it
Would love a comparison on sound with this and the playbar
What a lot of people don’t seem to understand is Atmos is going to be dependant if your tv passes that sound format to the ARC. I have a 2018 Panasonic OLED which will not pass this on. Sonos should have included a second HDMI connection for pass thru and would also have the ability to get Atmos from a specific source.
That's good to know. Appreciate you sharing! 👍
Christopher Davies from what I’m hearing Sonos said you can still get Atmos but you can’t get the best Atmos. arc supports Atmos but not blue ray players Atmos.
Larry Raigrodski so if you use a device like an Apple TV or UHD Bluray player as your source you won’t get Dolby Atmos unless your tv supports eARC. So you have to use the Netflix app etc that are built into the TV (which those apps aren’t always great depending on how onto it your tv manufacturer is with updates).
Christopher Davies yes I’m pretty sure I read a screenshot on reddit from Sonos website.
I have a LG C8 with Netflix running on Apple TV, are you saying this won't work?
Thank you for the info, I have pretty much have all the Sonos products and your right I was itching to get this one, when I saw on pre order however I didn’t really like the finish, it’s kinda look like a standard soundbar not like my The playbar which looks more premium compare to the Arc.
ngantica I have to say that the Arc is more contemporary looking the play bar is more traditional looking but for me having the HDMI input means all the difference since I have volume control issues with my LG remote and the optical connection on the Playbase.
@@petermaz701 Thankx for the reply and i agree, i'm still looking forward on seeing it and hopefully i wont change my mind on upgrading again hehe. i was only a little annoyed with the Sonos Five cause i just purchased Play 5 not 6 months ago and meant to get another one next month. thank you for the input and keep up the good work...
God sake people are so pissed even though you are getting the arc yourself.
It's either people don't like Sonos products in general or not happy about expressing my initial thoughts. It's all good!
What’s your opinion on if it’s worth it to upgrade to arc from beam?
If you're going from the Beam to ARC, it really comes down to budget. You're essentially getting 2.5x more speaker, but keep in mind you're paying 2x the price. Hope that helps!
Beam and Arc are apples and oranges.
Myself with the beam for the bedroom and the play bar for the living room I will be getting the new Arc.
Sonos Arc or Bang Olufsen Beosound Stage? 😏
Great question - hope someone with B&O Stage experience will chime in.
I have the Beam with a pair of the first gen Play 1’s and the sub. I may be willing to upgrade to the Arc but I don’t want to spend money on upgrading the Play 1’s and sub. Will they still work with the Arc?
Alan Di Lucca Hey- yup, the Play 1 and sub will still work.
Haha wow I have the same set up as you. Arc is giving some sweet discounts to first responders, I think 30% or something.
Hey great review, is the Sonos older sub worth upgrading to the 3rd generation sub, because it seems to have a minor upgrade, does the 3rd gen have MORE DEEP STRONGER SOUNDING BASS, i dont want to be like choosing an iPhone with minor upgrades 😂😂😂
From what I read online, there is not much of a difference other than updated cpu internals, mostly for system connectivity performance.
Unless you can return yours without any penalties, I would just keep rocking that sub! 🤘
I can still return my playbar, would it be worth returning it and buying the new Arc? I was a bit put off with the missing arc control from the playbar, but the beam was so lackluster in sound..
running a 5:1 sonos setup with sonos ones
If I was you I would do it.
To be honest, If you still have the playbar, I would order the ARC and test them both side by side... then problably return the playbar.
I am curious what the sound difference would be and you are in a lucky situation sir :D
I’m considering the same thing. The playbar is quite old. 7 years I think. Arc will be supported much longer.
Also if you have sonos one speaker which are airplay 2 enabled if you connect them in surround to the playbar you lose the airplay functionality for the surround setup since playbar doesn’t support it
@@StoneSideDeathGrip I wouldn´t do it like this...
Keep in mind, that a new ARC is not that much more expensive than a brand new Playbar (if you didn´t have a major rabate)
And if you sell it next year, the reseller price of the Playbar will also drop a lot
What’s the difference between the playbar and this one? Which ones better and has best sound etc?
For my living room.
I am sure a lot of RUclipsrs will be reviewing and comparing soon. BUT, if this is building on the playbar, it will be worth the investment (Investment being the operating word) as Sonos put a lot into engineering and in turn, they will expect "a lot" if you want to own a piece of their engineered work.
On the differences besides the shape, the Arc has a connection called the HDMI eArc. This connection delivers more data (audio and visual) compared to optical. So, because it transfers more data it also transfers more information for the speakers' processors. Unfortunately, older TVs do not support HDMI Arc, let alone eArc. So, that is something to consider.
The other thing to consider is how much Atmos content there is, as it is still limited in comparison to other sound formats. That being said, the Arc is likely to perform and sound better than the Playbar.
HiFi Brothers, I stand to be corrected. And I am waiting for your update on the Arc before I consider getting on this coming month!!
Great video again, well done.
I am completely 100% novice all of this is new to me. I have extended the house and really want to treat myself to good cinematic surround sound system.
I was sold on the sound bar, sub woofer, and another speaker after watching your vid. Until all this new Arc news dropped now I'm back to square one haha.
The room is 4m wide x 5m long by 4m at its highest any recommendations?.
Appreciate it!
Since you don't have any products yet, I would start with the Arc and take it from there. If you later feel like you need more bass then for sure add the sub.
That's how I did it. I like to take baby steps when purchasing components, so I can evaluate what I need and take it from there. You could of course just purchase everything all together and just rock it. Definitely no harm in that.
Thanks@@HiFiBrothers sound advise. No pun intended haha.
I was going to go mad and buy the lot ill see how it goes. Baby steps it is, much love from Dublin Ireland.
This RUclipsr is top-notch. Great honest pre-view points. The only way to appreciate a Sonos system is to listen and feel it. I am 3 years old as a Sonorite (I just made that up). But I have never regretted buying four play ones, a playbar and now waiting for my SUB to be delivered. I bought my Playbar from Costco so I will take it back on June 10th, get my £549 refund, top-up from my booze money for the month and go for the Arc. The only downside is that there is limited content which has Dolby Atmos. All the same, you will feel the quality. Remember that you usually get what you pay for. Good luck.
Thanks @@kaysandy676 i can't wait to become a Sonorite 😁
I definitely want to get this, have to sell my Playbase. The Playbase /Playbar only use optical which the LG remote has issues controlling the sound I have to use my Dish remote. The Arc has hdmi which will alleviate that issue.
For sure. All TVs are created equal, so bummer you had issues. ARC should definitely reduce the issues you were having. Let us know how it goes. Would love your input.
Currently have the Beam, Two One's, Sub- speaker connected to 82" Samsung Q70. All this since December - January. Amazing sound! Yes I pre order the ARC delivery date June 12.
Why the purchase without yan actual review. Well its amazing just the sound experience and keep in mind I have the Beam and the sound is just Amazin. I know for a FACT that SONOS wont produce anything less than better from there last speaker.
I will post review once installed.
Whats not to like about this video. A Prereview based on specs with lots of information reagarding differences in older products. Looking forward to the real comparison tests !
He use to be the coolest teacher/ coach hope his youtube channel gains more followers
The company I work for gives us various special discounts and sonos is one of them. I preordered the Atmos bar for $600. 😬
Hook me up with that discount!!
Bro! How!? Why???
thanks for this vid. i was lucky enough to preorder yesterday. i do not have the subwoofer. the rumor is an updated version will be released. should i get that to pair with the new soundbar? thanks in advance for any advice!! love your channel man!
The 3rd gen sub was also just released. As far as I could tell it looks exactly the same as the previous. It may have some internal upgrades making it more efficient.
@@HiFiBrothers just read an article that ATMOS will only work with newer TVs! I have a Samsung 65" Curved - hopefully there will be some workaround to help get the full benefits of the Sonos! Thanks for the quick reply!
gatorsam “only” is not the right word it will still work it just won’t be the fuller experience.
@@gatorsam I hope so too. I have a 2018 85 inch Samsung which has HDMI Arc. I am hoping it will work well with the Arc once I convince wifey that we NEED the Arc!!!
Nice! Good luck with your wife! I know how that goes! haha
You should review Beosound Stage... see if that changes your mind on a do it all sound bar with Dolby Atmos.
Also, is the ARC connected via HDMI ARC or Toslink? Can’t seem to find that anywhere!!! I can’t just assume because of the name.
Arc is connected via HDMI eARC. It will come with a Toslink adapter for people that do not have an available HDMI-ARC slot.
Strange they haven’t introduced integration with amp/sonance combo
Wow you were right. ima star looking for a cheap Playbar lol.
Just came across your channel and appreciate your honest hands on reviews. I have been a long time user of Sonos products and love their ecosystem for what they are, a technology company first and a speaker company second. Their ease of setup and use through their software is why you come to Sonos to start with. I love their Play1's and think they are a great background music speaker and work well for that whole home music experience. I am not, however, sold on any of their soundbars. I have owned the beam for several months and while it works well enough in my bedroom for TV and basic dialogue, it falls short when reproducing plain music. For the price, a pair of Sonos One's will give you a much better sound stage and much higher fidelity but I accept the sound sacrifice in my bedroom because I want a TV and a speaker and a clean install. For my main listening room though, I have been disappointed with the Arc. It will never replace a simple pair of bookshelf speakers for stereo music and I am not sold on the whole "atmos in a soundbar" concept. I am wondering if you have tested it alongside your Playbar yet for both music and movies. I am thinking that "bang for your buck" the Playbar may still be the best option if you want to improve the sound of your TV and want something that will integrate with an existing Sonos system. Thanks again for your reviews!
We plan on doing a "things you should know before buying" video because there are now dozens of reviews out there, so we hate to repeat what others have already said.
As consumers of these products, we think it's important to highlight the practicality of these products with honesty. Otherwise, we're all just saying the same thing then people being disappointed because they realize it's not what they thought.
About 3 weeks ago, I bought a Playbar, Sub and two Play 5s. I didn’t realize they were releasing new versions. I believe I can still return at no expense. Should I do that and rebuy the new equipment? Note that everything is setup, it seems like a massive hassle, but maybe worth it?
I'm assuming you got those items at a great deal?! Hopefully it was when they were on sale. If so, that savings could be worth just keeping them alone. It just comes down to your budget and whether the cost of difference makes sense to you.
If it was less than a few hundred dollars, I would probably go for the upgrade. If it's more than $500+ I would just be happy with what you got and use that money elsewhere, perhaps adding more Sonos speakers in other parts of the home. Hope that helps!
for someone who doesn't have a sounder yet, would you recommend this soundbar? was looking into getting the whole set with the sub, and 2 SL speakers, or would you recommend the bose 700 sounder set, with sub and speakers?? I have a large open floor plan for my home
Going from no soundbar then absolutely I would recommend this soundbar with the Sub and SL speakers.
Don't have much experience with the Bose. Hope that helps!
Hey- I already own a Sonos 5.1 (Sub, pair of play 1s and play bar). Today I just received my new Sonos 5.1 (Sun, pair of Play ones and beam) however I feel cheated out since the new ARC and SUB was announced. Should I exchange? (Box is unopened still).
ernesto batista you can’t exchange but if you mean pay the difference, yes. If it’s in that budget then do it. Beam is great but if it’s your budget i would get the arc.
If I was you I go for the new stuff. I'm heavily invested in Sonos at the moment. So I'll be trying to sell all my old stuff to get the new Arc and Sub. I already have the SL one ( after selling my original play 1s )
I have play bar, Sub, beam ( in bedroom ) new SL One , 2 older play 1s ( limited edition models * blue note and all black * ) 2nd gen play 5 and play 3 🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ I love my Sonos I have no complaints but I definitely want to latest and greatest! Had most of my speakers awhile other than the SL one
Larry Raigrodski Thanks for the suggestion.
David Houston Thanks for your input. A lot to consider.
For sure a dedicated Atmos is going to sound better than a soundbar hands down. But what you get from Atmos is also the codec. Atmos sounds (audio quality) better than Dolby digital the same way Dolby true hd sounds better than Dolby digital and Atmos has just that much more information than true hd. That being said no matter what the audio source the speakers will play a factor and at the end of the day it’s still a soundbar, but i think it will sound better than the beam and will definitely play louder which if you’ve heard the beam at times you would like it to be louder
Atmos is not a codec. Atmos cannot sound better than Dolby Digital Plus or Dolby TrueHD, as those codecs are simply a way of transmitting sound. Atmos is part of Dolby Digital Plus or Dolby TrueHD, depending on if lossy (DD+) or lossless (TrueHD) Atmos is being used. TrueHD really only matters for Blu Rays, as every single streaming service uses Dolby Digital Plus to transmit Atmos.
I want a 5.1.2 setup. Can we connect 2 Sonos Amps with 2 in ceiling speakers and 2 in wall speakers to Sonos ARC
Hi Charles, unfortunately that wouldn't work. You would only be able to connect a pair of surround speakers to the setup. The Arc alone will give you 3.0.2 setup.
So adding an additiional pair of surrounds will not be able to paired to the setup. Hope that makes sense.
Airplay 2 is worth going from playbar alone. Easy choice if choosing between the two. I waited and bought the beam just because of that support. I use that even more than for tv surround.
Kenny Williams if you have iPads and iPhones then sure but if not it’s just not worth it.
I may consider this, but won't be buying the Subwoofer.
deeconfrost I have the playbar and sub. The difference of having the sub is pretty huge. Not just for bass sounds but the mids and highs too. When you add the sub the playbar stops running low frequency and increases the other frequencies. Gives a much louder and fuller sound for movies or music.
I'd like to know how the Sub compares to something like the SVS PB2000 or PB1000, anyone have both?
😂
A review without the item itself fails bigtime!
Happiness in life well it’s a first impression.
just pre-ordered Arc at $600 after-tax. Let's see how my first ever Sonos product performs.
What's your opinion on the new sub, will we have to use this gen 3, or can we use a different sub that will nate with the Sonos arc?
Mate
From what we were told/read, you will not need to upgrade any previous gen Sonos sub for it to work under the upcoming S2 app update and the Arc.
It’s just an opinion I don’t why people are giving you so much dislikes.
I guess people don't appreciate honesty.
Just an assumption, but judging on the comments (which are relatively positive) our guess is that a few people are using multiple accounts to dislike the video.
Every like we get equates to an immediate dislike. Just seems rather strange.
Otherwise, our assumption is wrong and the video is not good. We'll just need to do better next time.
I have the playbar and the only reason I would upgrade is if it support dts master audio. Do you know if it does?
Unfortunately, it will not do DTS. It will only provide Dolby Atmos, TrueHD, MAT, Dolby Digital Plus, and Dolby Digital.
HiFi Brothers thank you.....it’s very disappointing to me.
I like this honest review, I get sick of seeing the biased rubbish that people spout. Therefore I will be watching reviews from you guys in the future. 👍
Well i guess i am an ignorant fool for falling for their sub sale. Not even a week after getting it they announce gen 3. Not sure if it’s worth the hassle to return it for the gen 3 or not.
Don't feel so bad, Troy. I think a lot of people feel the same way. I haven't heard of the 3rd gen being much different than the previous gens other than upgraded cpu internals, mostly for system connectivity performance.
If you can return it with no penalities, then go for it, at least you have the option. Otherwise, you got a great deal and just keep rocking that sub without any worries! 🤘
HiFi Brothers thank you! It honestly is a bad ass sub lol I’m probably just going to keep it
Preordered day one have playbar
Does having a HDMI connection give you a more of a "surround" experience than the optical cable with the Playbar? This is just for my living room so I don't want a real 5.1 or 7.1.
HDMI-ARC will give you higher bandwidth audio, which is why you'll be able to get Dolby Atmos with the Arc and not with the Playbar.
Does your tv have earc or arc? Does it??
My TCL 6 series only supports ARC. So the best I'll be able to get with the Arc is Dolby Digital Plus?! Hmmmmm.
I have a feeling that many people may be disappointed to know that they're TVs will not support eARC, and therefore won't get "true" Dolby Atmos.
It will of course not be as good as a full Dolby Atmos setup. But I’ve listened to Samsung’s soundbar with Atmos and it is amazing. It’s like sitting in a bubble of sound coming all around you. Mind you Samsung’s solution has rear speakers with up firing sound. Something the Sonos One speakers won’t be capable of... And then there’s the HDMI eARC that is alone worth it for many 🤗
i think that the samsung q90r is way better then this arc, both for specs and price (Sonos doesn't worth the price)
PPMGunslinger Wel we need to hear it in action. But if it’s anything like the PlayBar then it should be really good. But yes the Samsung Dolby Atmos soundbars are great. But they have had problems with losing connection with the rare speakers and HDMI issues with two generations of their Atmos soundbars now...
@@SveinOlavLarsen i heard that, i'm looking for the best solution for my home, for now i'm between Sony ht5000 and the Samsung q90, it's hard to decide
@@PPMGunslinger True. Sonos is most suited for those who are Sonorites (Investing in Sonos products for whole homes setting). It is expandable. The Q90R is awesome, but it is not as expandable. And I think once we know more after real-life reviews, it may be that the Arc is capable of upfiring from the Arc itself to compensate for the rears found on the Q90.
@@kaysandy676 as far as i know the q90r has upfiring rears and upfiring front, i doubt the arc could be near the samsung's performance. Correct what you say about multiroom and expandability, but imo doesn't worth the money they ask (i do quite the same with chromecasts).
Yeah I agree why would you upgrade and spend 800 dollars. There is no trade In program for the playbar. And the playbar is fine in 2020
Larry, you and I think a lot alike! 👍
If it supports DTS, I'm all in. The Lack of DTS has been my biggest complaint of the playbar. I know there's a work around with HDMI audio splitters or buying a devices that's capable of trans-coding DTS to DD 5.1, but its still a hassle at times. Great video thanks
john tingley no it doesn’t unfortunately.
@@larryraigrodski5381 that's unfortunate, something people have been requesting for years. Thank you sir
It’s going to be earc not arc but if don’t have a compatible tv it will downgrade to arc.
From what I read so far, ( I am also researching to decide if I should go for the Arc), you can use the HDMI Arc port on your TV to connect to the Sonos' eArc port, however, you will get Atmos (if playing Atmos content) but it will not be the "full experience". I am in the same boat as I have an HDMI Arc capable TV SO I figure Sonos is future proof so in 3 years time I will buy an eArc enabled TV (Probably there will be new HDMI systems!!). Sometimes technology develops at such a pace that its night before it is afternoon!!
I hope that helps.
Kays Andy yes thank you. Unless you get a receiver.
@@kaysandy676 I was just reading a few articles and it seems that if your TV doesn't support eARC then the best you'll be able to get is Dolby Digital Plus, which is a variant of "Atmospheric" sound, but not really Dolby Atmos.
It's best to check rtings.com to check if your TV is fully compatible with eARC. Otherwise, I think we're gonna have a lot of disappointed people.
Does it even have Bluetooth?
TheTroutman85 no all Sonos soundbar use WiFi.
No, the only product in their lineup that has bluetooth audio built-in is the Move. Sonos systems use WiFi audio, which is a much better audio format for quality and connection bandwidth.
Just preordered it
How are we even recommending an upgrade or not if there has not been 1 review out? 200 extra bucks is nothing these days for a soundbar type atmos sound...nothing will ever replace actual speakers positioned above you to really get that true atmos sound, but let's not jump on the not worth the upgrade train until we have some reviews out there.
This is just my initial reaction as stated in the video. I don't necessarily need HDMI- ARC, nor feel the need to have a Dolby Atmos soundbar, but I can very well change my mind once the Arc is available.
Maybe I will wait for a sale from amazon and then see
Honestly, now that I've had time to sit on this...I feel that Sonos dropped the ball on this recent update of products. Not saying the Arc was a waste, but an update to the Sub and Play 5?! C'mon...nobody asked for those products.
What they should've updated was the Playbar with HDMI-ARC and charged $599 as a mid-level soundbar, between the beam and Arc. Making it a non-dolby-atmos-kick-ass soundbar. Then give us some new products like Sonos capable headphones and/or an actual receiver with physical buttons.
HiFi Brothers I think the sub is for the future updates. But new 5 had no new features like maybe they should add voice control or something. Sonos beam went down to 259$ on amazon prime day so if they Delay it I don’t know what I will do because I have till July 17th to return beam if I want the new arc. And already people saw the arc in real life and they said the bass is amazing (I asked myself). So we will see the reviews.
HiFi Brothers nvm I probably won’t get it because 800$ is way out of my budget and Sonos beam return expires in July so if they postpone it to September then I won’t get it.
Did you just say that the Beam supports Dolby Atmos?
No, it does not. Sorry if you misinterpreted.
@@HiFiBrothers True. Beam has a "very good" 5:1, same as Playbar.
You now have exactly the same number of likes and dislikes. I won't break the balance of force. May the force be with you
Linh Nguyen so this is Star Wars.
So if the Sonos Arc is not using it's Atmos capability's, the upword driver's double as bass speaker's!