Didn't Bud Adams keep threatening to move the team because he couldn't get the stadium deal he wanted, and basically took a giant dump on the city and fans, which lead to them being either angry or apathetic toward the end of their time in Houston?
You’re literally just saying nonsense speculation. It’s not always about the stadium condition. A lot of your mentions are in some of the largest and highest rapidly growing cities in America. Royals leaving KC? Never. Texans leaving the 4th largest city in the country? No shot. Even the Dbacks, PHX is the fastest growing city in the southwest. You’re just making a video for the sake of making a video dude
the Pelicans are well supported as long as they have a .500+ record or are at least in the play-ins. Gayle Benson is a good owner, she just isn’t putting much into the Pelicans but they have amazing potential
Yeah Even as a Tampa Bay sports fan I feel bad for you guys losing the Oilers Tennessee should've waited for expansion like Seattle and Las Vegas did in the NHL
I’m born, raised and still live in Houston, TX. Trust me the Texans are well supported and aren’t going anywhere. Yeah these past few years have been horrible with Watson, the number of coaches we’ve had and certain individuals in the front office that shall remain nameless (*cough* Jack Easterby) but the hire of DeMeco Ryans and the drafting of CJ Stroud have reignited the fanbase so we’re good. As for other teams, the Winnipeg Jets could be one to watch because of the market size and them having some recent problems of selling tickets. There were rumors in the past about the Memphis Grizzlies possibly relocating due to attendance issues that seem to be solved with the drafting of Ja Morant and their following success. But his off the court issues may change that.
I do believe that the Texans fans support their team, but Houston just didn't seem much as an NFL city since the Oilers left. I miss that franchise, especially in the Earl Campbell days.
@@panowa8319 The Titans should stop messing around and just give the Texans the Oilers history. That way, the Texans can rename themselves the Oilers, or at the very least, be able to wear the Oilers throwback uniforms.
@@86byrdman Tennessee renamed their Name, have a totally different color scheme than of the old Oilers. A totally different team that seems new. They should give Houston the Oilers name back, where it belongs...
I think this post was to get clicks and to earn some breakfast money. He’s off on some of his projections/opinions and really don’t offer current substantive facts.
Kind of ironic with the Panthers, because they are on an unexpected deep playoff run right now. Not sure if that changes much, but they’re kind of the Tampa Bay Rays of the NHL. Good team, bad venue location and poor attendance
I find it hard to believe that Austin is getting a nfl team especially with 2 other nfl teams in the state of Texas. Also there's no way the KC Royals are going anywhere. The team needs a better product on the field but if every team moved because they were having a few bad years, then 90% of sports teams would be moving at some time or another.
Panthers can’t relocate now, since new mangers taken over, they put in a competitive team, panthers games are actually filling up, attendance is improving and the playoffs are consistently making playoffs and they’re in the ECF now. No way the panthers are leaving any time soon
I think after the arena funding bill vote failed, I think the NHL will finally throw in the towel on hockey In Arizona, they can’t even sell out a 5000 seat college arena where they play now. Either they move to Houston, Salt Lake City or Kansas City. I like Houston because they have the Toyota Center and they could resurrect the Houston Aeros name.
@@ericfriendzoned1303 That's what the newly renovated Baltimore, now CFG Bank Arena is copying but the management there is going after shows and concerts rather than sports. Aside from the Ravens and O's Baltimore is not that good of a sports town. The Arena League Brigade was among the bottom of attendance in that league, the Blast are still around but play in the SECU Arena at Towson University.
"Guardians" burned themselves with that name change. Fans clearly don't want political correctness in sport and it shows in attendance. Notice how online they usually say Cleveland fans instead of Guardians. Ownership fucked themselves up with that terrible decision.
I was listening to a Royals-Cleveland game last year and Royals announcer Denny Matthews never said Guardians or Indians he only said 'The Clevelands' when he mentioned the team. I thought it was amusing.
I have a few more from MLS in the NE Revolution, Chicago Fire & FC Dallas. The Revolution is most likely to relocate in my view in which they will move somewhere else in the New England region like Hartford because ownership has been unable to build a soccer specific stadium close to where the majority of fans live in Boston. As a result attendance has been a struggle for all of the team's existence even though they have had success. As for the Fire I see them being lured to either Phoenix or Vegas as part of MLS's expansion plans into those cities because the on field product isn't good & fans aren't attending games as a result even when the Fire moved back into Soldier Field to try to attract more fans. The only thing that is keeping the Fire in Chicago is because MLS wants to continue having a team in the 3rd biggest city in the country. However if Phoenix or Vegas offer MLS & the Fire a good amount of money to relocate, then they will likely move. FC Dallas is also in some danger of being relocated for pretty much the same reason Chicago is though FC Dallas is a regular playoff team & main reason why fans don't attend games is because of how far the stadium is from central Dallas.
The Rams started in Cleveland, moved to LA around 1945. The Browns started in the All American Football Conference in 1946 and wete one of three teams who joined the NFL in the early 50s, including the San Francisco 49ers and the original Baltimore Colts who folded a year later.
@@rockvilleraven the chargers we’re technically the only professional football team that started in LA. Every other team came from somewhere else. Even the dodgers and lakers if you want to talk other sports.
Remember that the Charges played their first season in LA. As for the Florida Panthers, this postseason could help them stay in the Miami area. You have to remember that the various leagues don't want to lose certain markets.
Why do they do they bother using the term "state of the art" when it comes to these venues? Once they're built, twenty-five or thirty years down the road, they're going to be considered obsolete. Kauffman Stadium may be 50 years old, but at least it was well-maintained and should be a historical ballpark like Wrigley Field and Fenway Park.
Rays in st.Pete move to Tampa and the panthers in Sunrise move to Ft Lauderdale or Miami would slove both problems this is why the attendance is poor because all people live in the cities like 75% of rays fans including me live 1 hour from the trop but 25 minutes from Tampa I would go way more if they just moved there you are right about all of us complaining that the stadium is in St.Pete it’s horrible
Moving to Miami would destroy the Florida Panthers. Why? It's because if you look at the demographics of the Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach area, most white, non-hispanic people, hockey's fan base, lives in Palm Beach and Broward counties. Taking the franchise all the way to Miami would alienate those fans as getting down to Miami from those areas is extremely difficult considering that one would likely take I-95, and it is like a parking lot in the hours leading up to a weekday game. The people in and around immediate Miami are mostly hispanics, and they are not going to watch hockey. To be honest, if you were to move the team anywhere within the market, West Palm Beach would be better than even Sunrise.
Just because we play in London more than the other teams, doesn’t mean we would move there. Jacksonville is NOT losing the Jags. Our new state of the art trading facility is gone be done this off-season and Khan has been trying to improve the River walk area. We’ve got a new 4-seasons hotel being built right next to the stadium also
Plus, Jacksonville is seeing a lot of population growth. Just in the last two years, the Jacksonville metropolitan area has gained seventy thousand people.
Khan seems to have a good working relationship with city government, and the city also wants to keep the annual Florida Georgia game. The Jags will get the stadium renovations they want.
No one has explained how relocating a team to London would actually work. A prime time game in NY (8pm) would start at 1am in London. Even the late Sunday afternoon window wouldn't start until 9pm in London.
Buddy the Texans were pretty much always in the top third in total, average, and percentage throughout the 2010s.. just to watch guys like Mallet, Hoyer, and Brock Osweiler. It’s not the fan bases fault they haven’t been a good team.
I don't think sport team relocations should happen anymore the leagues should just wait for expansion like the nhl it also hurts the fans of the previous cities they played in when they relocate
The issue with the Panthers is akin to the Rays: Their arena is not at all easily accessible. If they built a new arena back in Miami (like what existed in the 90's) or even Fort Lauderdale, those attendance issues would likely be quelled. Sunrise isn't the greatest site for the arena.
As canadian hockey fan totally agree with this, always wondered why they dont move the Florida Panthers to downtown Miami, would be far more accessible and bring more attention to the team, what a finals run the Panthers had.
And as of tonight, the Florida Panthers just clinched the Cup finals and have a rocking barn. I know hockey’s not your primary sport, but it would help to look at ‘now’ as well as the history
It often takes people who haven't been keeping up with attendance figures a few years to catch up with reality after a team previously had bad attendance for many years.
Two Things: 1. The Rams are from Cleveland, not LA. The upstart Browns ran them out of town. 2. The Blue Jackets are not moving. Nationwide Arena is a great venue and the team pulls solid attendance. They averaged more fans than the Panthers despite being considerably worse.
So…I’ve been to several MLB stadiums and IMO the finest of them all is easily Royals stadium , it still is gorgeous. The original Architecture firm that designed Royals stadium and Arrowhead stadium was HOK , for some reason on Wiki and other sights history has been completely re-written and credit for the building of these gems is given to a completely different firm that wasn’t even in the stadium architecture space at the time these were built 🤦 These stadiums can only be described as the “ Frank Lloyd Wright” of stadiums , they are masterpieces and should be preserved at all cost ; by the way I hate what they did to the waterfall section , if I could I would tear it down and reset it to its original beauty…
10:55 Such a lazy narrative from Miami/west coast people.. “other things to do in MY city” definitely! Bc Chicago, Boston, Philly, NYC, DC have NOTHING else to do there, don’t ya know?
Arizona D'Backs, KC Royals, Miami Marlins, and Houston Texans are all definitely not relocating either at all or anytime soon. Texans definitely least likely to lose their team.
They might move from their current stadium (with the exception for Marlins) but I don't see them all leaving the general area altogether... Like the most I've heard is like Dbacks considering moving to Scottsdale, closer to where their spring facilities was, and Royals also trying to move into downtown too... 🤔🤔🤔
@@ddddirge I agree bro, they'll just leave their stadiums like Houston will probably leave NRG in the next 10 years. Royals are moving downtown in a few years. I think the D'Backs will stay in downtown Phoenix at Chase Field since it's still in good shape and will probably just need a facelift at some point. Miami's park is still too new and in great shape.
There is no way in hell that Jerry Jones allows another NFL team into his market. Austin is simply to close to Dallas. Yes, I know NY and LA share teams, but this is different.
I was all ears until he mention Houston Texans I was like hold up "STOP THE CAP" explain Plzzz and he did well he did and it STILL DONT MAKE SENSE but it's his opinion soo whatever
I naver knew there were rumors about the Indians moving out of Cleveland. The reason the Indians are drawing such poor crowds is because of their stupid name change.
Not gonna lie, man... and I'm saying this respectfully... as soon as you said "I don't think Houston is a very good NFL town", I kinda tuned out... I get it's your opinion, but c'mon, man. (And if anything, the Jaguars would move to San Antonio before Austin. They've had MUCH more experience with holding pro football teams, albeit Spring Leagues and temporary sites for NFL games.)
The retractable roof at Chase Field HASN'T WORKED in THREE YEAR'S (including THIS season), THAT'S the BIGGEST complaint the team and fans have. Other than THAT, it's a BEAUTIFUL indoor stadium. I went to 3 games there last year. With exception to the roof NOT opening (broken cables that they refuse to replace), everything else was fine.
Come on man. Quit hating on Houston. When clowns are running the show and a pervert at qb, do you blame the fans? 2 Super bowls and 3 final fours have been held at NRG. You just hate Houston because of the Astros. Well, just stick it. We have 2 WS championships, even though they got caught cheating. Know why the did not yank the 17 trophy away? Because it would have come out about other teams doing the same thing. Just keep hating dude
MLB came to KC in 2012 for the All-Star game contingent on refurbishing Kaufmann. That renewal of the stadium occurred between 2009-2011 and really saved the Royals in KC. KC & Cleveland and other midwestern cities suffer the plague of nearly all being small market teams. The new player contract increasing the maximum team payroll way (without penalty & the surtax) beyond what non-coastal cities like KC can afford only hurt midwestern teams. Baseball really has screwed up competitive balance. Right now only 3 of the 2 MLB 10 central division 2023 teams have a winning record. Unless competitive balance ever happens (all a part of MLB's exemption from the Sherman Anti-Trust act, beginning 100 years ago under commissioner Kennesaw Mountain Landis, most, if not all small market teams, especially in the midwest will find themselves in financial jeopardy and looking to move to the coasts in the future for sufficient TV & fan revenue to compete regularly.
7:01, that is such a bad take, the Texans won't probably ever relocate. Houston loves the team, even through the good and bad and with the new upcoming core they have, it's reignited the fanbase and given them hope for the future
I think the Diamondbacks would do better if they relocate to either Vancouver, British Columbia in Canada and became the British Columbia Diamondbacks or further west to Portland, Oregon and became the Portland Diamondbacks in the MLB
Oakland is definitely moving to Vegas, TB I think stays on the Tampa Area. I think the D-Backs eventually get a new stadium somewhere in Arizona, the Royals I think eventually get a new stadium eventually next to Kaufman Stadium. I agree with you on the Jags staying as long as they can get a total redo for there stadium. You must not be old enough to remember the Oilers in Houston, they had die hard fans. The Chargers situation I tend to agree with you
Here’s who I see moving soon NFL: use to think Jaguars, but starting to doubt it NHL: Coyotes and Panthers MLB: Athletics, Rays, and maybe marlins. I know Dbacks and my brewers are rumored but I don’t see it happening and hope it doesn’t happen
The A's are a forgone conclusion. The two Florida teams have always faced challenges unique to the state in that fan loyalties have long been established through the many baseball spring training camps. I don't see the Diamondbacks moving nor the Brewers, even though Milwaukee is the smallest market in MLB.
@@YooperHatesOhioState I hope they don't, either. I'm a baseball fan from Canada and I know the Brewers were recently given some kind of ultimatum by MLB to renovate their stadium.
If you want to use the "Rams came from LA" argument, the Chargers played in LA in 1960 before moving to SD. The Rams originated in Cleveland. The Chargers originated in LA.
@@stevep8445 ahh yes the famously pronounced quo-back city and province which translates to English as ‘king kong’s butthole’ from its origins in the beautiful mandarin language
The Coyotes will likely move to a city that would still be in the Western Conference. No Eastern Time Zone team wants to play a Western Conference schedule, especially cone playoff time. And in the case an Eastern conference team relocates, Quebec has an 18,000 seat NHL calibre arena ready and fans that would welcome the new Nordiques with open arms.
@@YooperHatesOhioState good suggestion. 17k+ seat arena that's 15 years old, but should be much more than adequate for an NHL team long term, and it's been almost 50 years since the Scouts left, so they could get a second chance at a team.
Florida just isn't conducive to hockey, despite the fact that the Lightning has won Stanley Cups and the Panthers are back to the Finals. Thank Gary Bettman for that development. Being back in the Finals will likely keep the Panthers in Miami for now.
In seeing the Houston stadium from your pic, I like it. Multiple levels means multiple concourses. I live about 2 hours from where the Bills play and you can even use the bathroom because of a single concourse. And the problem with the Panthers they are too far from Miami. Not saying Miami proper is the answer. Maybe Orlando?
After a proposed $2.1 billion entertainment district in Tempe was put on hold for good last night, Alex Meruelo will have no choice but to sell the Coyotes to Pierre Karl Peladeau for $968 million, so next season, the Coyotes will relocate to Quebec City to become the Quebec Nordiques and play their home games at Videotron Centre.
Then bring a current AHL team to the National Hockey League (NHL) Milwaukee Admirals or the current ECHL (East Coast Hockey League) team Utah Grizzlies to NHL and put them in the Central Division and Western Conference
In regard to the Jacksonville Jaguars, it's certainly true that their current digs, TIAA Bank Field, is one of the worst stadia in the NFL, and should the team not get the renovation they need, then a move may very well happen; in that regard, London is a definite possibility, however, a move to "the Live Music Capitol of the World", Austin, may just make the AFC top heavy in teams from the Lone Star State, as the AFC already has the Texans, while the NFC has a certain team in North Texas which shall not be named in this post, as I'm an Eagles fan. Concerning the Texans, as far as I'm concerned, when that ballclub let J.J. Watt go, they screwed up big time - hence, it's my belief that the Texans are a bill of goods; incidentally, when it comes to the NFL in Houston, I'm one who still says, "Look Out Football, Here We Come - Houston Oilers, Number One!" I hope I haven't bored all of you fine folks.
That college football game at Bristol motor speedway Virginia vs Tennessee was an insane one. Nascar in LA colliseum ...baseball in LA colliseum. MLB at London Olympic stadium I think and in Adelaide oval. Then there was a NBA preseason game at Indian wells tennis stadium maybe a decade ago
The WNBA New York Liberty had an outdoor preseason game at Arthur Ashe Stadium, where the Westminster Dog Show was also moved to this year with the roof closed, after a few years in Tarrytown, NY due to Covid.
Not sure what happened in Cleveland, they used to have sell outs all the time when it was the Jacobs Field. Then they caved to the woke and changed the name which people really don't like. To be fair I think the rainouts cause the issues to a point. But they can't even sell out playoff games. Sad. As for the NFL no other team is ever going to move into Texas as long as JJ is the owner of the Cowboys. Its just a non starter, he has too much power.
Cleveland has really fallen as a premier American city. It looks like an old, rust bucket town that has seen its better days. Its population is declining and aging, much like Pittsburgh. It's also not a very big city, nor one with a lot of wealth, so that makes it more challenging to go to games.
Cleveland has had an attendance problems for years despite fielding winning teams. The best teams ,07, 16, & 17, didn't draw well. But then there always has to be someone (I'm being nice) injecting "woke" where it doesn't apply as the reason. Many of the fans have this "The Dolans are cheap" fixation, not realizing that a new owner would replace the Antonett--Chernoff-Tito troika, who have been largely responsible for the winning teams.
Dude, stadiums don't need to cost billions. How the fuck is Chase Field outdated? It's not exactly new. We don't need teams like the Braves getting a new stadium every 25 years.
Florida Panthers are a weird situation, since ownership owns the land around the arena. They play 30 minutes to 2 hours west of Fort Lauderdale. Miami is an estimated 45 minute drive without traffic (we will get a more accurate picture when lack of traffic occurs). The team needs an arena more centrally located, closer to Fort Lauderdale or Miami, and not across the Highway from Sawgrass National Reserve (a swamp),
They aren't 2 hours west of Ft. Lauderdale even with traffic. That said, yes, any new arena would be best served being built closer to Ft. Lauderdale. Maimi would be mistake unless they place it in a similar area to where the Dolphins play. The arena needs to be in a place where it can best serve the tricounty area. The Everglades is beautiful btw.
@@highfive2935 The Miami-Fort Lauderdale at its widest point is no more than a little over 20 miles wide, and that is farther south. Where Sunrise is, it might be around fifteen miles wide from the beach to the Everglades.
Cleveland just resigned their lease to stay at Progressive Field another 15 years. They aren’t going anywhere. And attendance shouldn’t be your only measurable metric, Cleveland has one of the best TV viewerships in the country.
Lol your nuts to think Houston is not a good football town
Also apprently Jacksonville is small lol it has a higher city population than Miami
I don’t see the Royals, Diamondbacks, Florida Panthers, Jacksonville, jaguars, or pelicans relocating anytime soon
Jacksonville Jaguars will eventually move to London ✌️
Yeah dont take this channel very serious, its all opinions no facts.
@@trickolas78 naa thatll never work. A team having to travel to the US for half its games. Just think for a second. Does that sound reasonable?
For real, right? Some of these were kind of off base
@@trickolas78 Bring the Jaguars to St.Louis
You crank out a LOT of videos, my guy.
Yeah it's kinda quantity over quality though. The algorithm is brutal after all.
Not of good quality but to each of their own
Definitely just throwing things together to produce content. The Diamondbacks and Royals aren’t moving. Nor are the Chargers or the Texans.
I like his channel but I think he’s an autist for retractable roofs
I mean, they're not terrible videos, but they have gotten extremely repetitive after a while.
Houston was a great football town before the Oilers moved to Nashville. They loved the Oilers!
Didn't Bud Adams keep threatening to move the team because he couldn't get the stadium deal he wanted, and basically took a giant dump on the city and fans, which lead to them being either angry or apathetic toward the end of their time in Houston?
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The old owner frequently antagonized the city, the fans and their co-tenants, the Astros.
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because of the New Year's Eve Massacre and subsequent boycott-yet one more time ownership antagonized the fans
How come the Oilers didn't move to San Antionio?
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I would guess because the Cowboys have too much power and blocked it.
They don't want to give up any of their fanbase.
You’re literally just saying nonsense speculation. It’s not always about the stadium condition. A lot of your mentions are in some of the largest and highest rapidly growing cities in America. Royals leaving KC? Never. Texans leaving the 4th largest city in the country? No shot. Even the Dbacks, PHX is the fastest growing city in the southwest. You’re just making a video for the sake of making a video dude
He's depressed. Lol
Marlins problem is due to previous world series championship teams being completely demolished after winning.
Age constant fire sales etc etc
Sounds like the old Montreal Expos situation.
A snake-like owner like Jeffrey Loria sets your franchise back for years.
the Pelicans are well supported as long as they have a .500+ record or are at least in the play-ins. Gayle Benson is a good owner, she just isn’t putting much into the Pelicans but they have amazing potential
Houston isn't relocating. We are a damn good football city. Still pissed about losing the oilers
Yeah Even as a Tampa Bay sports fan I feel bad for you guys losing the Oilers Tennessee should've waited for expansion like Seattle and Las Vegas did in the NHL
I’m born, raised and still live in Houston, TX. Trust me the Texans are well supported and aren’t going anywhere. Yeah these past few years have been horrible with Watson, the number of coaches we’ve had and certain individuals in the front office that shall remain nameless (*cough* Jack Easterby) but the hire of DeMeco Ryans and the drafting of CJ Stroud have reignited the fanbase so we’re good.
As for other teams, the Winnipeg Jets could be one to watch because of the market size and them having some recent problems of selling tickets. There were rumors in the past about the Memphis Grizzlies possibly relocating due to attendance issues that seem to be solved with the drafting of Ja Morant and their following success. But his off the court issues may change that.
I do believe that the Texans fans support their team, but Houston just didn't seem much as an NFL city since the Oilers left. I miss that franchise, especially in the Earl Campbell days.
@@panowa8319 I´m not a Houston fan but i do miss the Oilers uniforms. Top 3 of all time...
@@panowa8319 The Titans should stop messing around and just give the Texans the Oilers history. That way, the Texans can rename themselves the Oilers, or at the very least, be able to wear the Oilers throwback uniforms.
@@86byrdman Tennessee renamed their Name, have a totally different color scheme than of the old Oilers. A totally different team that seems new. They should give Houston the Oilers name back, where it belongs...
I think this post was to get clicks and to earn some breakfast money. He’s off on some of his projections/opinions and really don’t offer current substantive facts.
Kind of ironic with the Panthers, because they are on an unexpected deep playoff run right now. Not sure if that changes much, but they’re kind of the Tampa Bay Rays of the NHL. Good team, bad venue location and poor attendance
Coming from South Florida, it is honestly easier to get to Sunrise than when the panthers were in Miami
@@Max-bi8fn Depends on where you live. Doesn't seem like an issue for the Heat
Best location
@@Max-bi8fn I agree
jj in boca, based on your username I’m not surprised to hear that opinion. But let’s be fair, the arena is in a parking lot of an outlet mall.
The Royals relocating is laughable. No way in hell they ever leave KC
For real, right? The Royals are a mainstay in KC, just like the Chiefs
I love Kauffman. It's so classic
The NBA is really committed to keeping a team in New Orleans whether it is high performing or not.
I find it hard to believe that Austin is getting a nfl team especially with 2 other nfl teams in the state of Texas. Also there's no way the KC Royals are going anywhere. The team needs a better product on the field but if every team moved because they were having a few bad years, then 90% of sports teams would be moving at some time or another.
Panthers can’t relocate now, since new mangers taken over, they put in a competitive team, panthers games are actually filling up, attendance is improving and the playoffs are consistently making playoffs and they’re in the ECF now. No way the panthers are leaving any time soon
Exactly! This guy sometimes just ramble his mouth and is going off terrible assumptions without research
@@AntcmbHeat yeah so it appears, he’s not a bad RUclipsr I like his content but if you want to be taken seriously, do the research first
Florida attendance is better than like seven other teams. It has improved a lot in the last couple years.
Coyotes are the only team who will move
I think after the arena funding bill vote failed, I think the NHL will finally throw in the towel on hockey In Arizona, they can’t even sell out a 5000 seat college arena where they play now. Either they move to Houston, Salt Lake City or Kansas City. I like Houston because they have the Toyota Center and they could resurrect the Houston Aeros name.
KC most likely... Tmobile Center/Sprint hasn't had a full time sport in it's history and it's a nice facility for a NHL/NBA team
@@ericfriendzoned1303 That's what the newly renovated Baltimore, now CFG Bank Arena is copying but the management there is going after shows and concerts rather than sports. Aside from the Ravens and O's Baltimore is not that good of a sports town. The Arena League Brigade was among the bottom of attendance in that league, the Blast are still around but play in the SECU Arena at Towson University.
And that ended up being Salt Lake City...
"Guardians" burned themselves with that name change. Fans clearly don't want political correctness in sport and it shows in attendance. Notice how online they usually say Cleveland fans instead of Guardians. Ownership fucked themselves up with that terrible decision.
I was listening to a Royals-Cleveland game last year and Royals announcer Denny Matthews never said Guardians or Indians he only said 'The Clevelands' when he mentioned the team. I thought it was amusing.
Pelicans won’t leave, and that arena is fine
Actually, the Chargers played the 1960 season in Los Angeles.
I have a few more from MLS in the NE Revolution, Chicago Fire & FC Dallas. The Revolution is most likely to relocate in my view in which they will move somewhere else in the New England region like Hartford because ownership has been unable to build a soccer specific stadium close to where the majority of fans live in Boston. As a result attendance has been a struggle for all of the team's existence even though they have had success. As for the Fire I see them being lured to either Phoenix or Vegas as part of MLS's expansion plans into those cities because the on field product isn't good & fans aren't attending games as a result even when the Fire moved back into Soldier Field to try to attract more fans. The only thing that is keeping the Fire in Chicago is because MLS wants to continue having a team in the 3rd biggest city in the country. However if Phoenix or Vegas offer MLS & the Fire a good amount of money to relocate, then they will likely move. FC Dallas is also in some danger of being relocated for pretty much the same reason Chicago is though FC Dallas is a regular playoff team & main reason why fans don't attend games is because of how far the stadium is from central Dallas.
Soccer really seems a lot more popular in the South than the rest of the country. Atlanta, Charlotte, and Nashville, are 1, 2, & 4 in MLS attendance.
The Rams started in Cleveland, moved to LA around 1945. The Browns started in the All American Football Conference in 1946 and wete one of three teams who joined the NFL in the early 50s, including the San Francisco 49ers and the original Baltimore Colts who folded a year later.
Lots of these idiots conveniently ignore the Cleveland part when they vomit out "they're just coming home." Never let them forget it.
@@skidawg22 The last NFL team to return home was the LA Chargers, who played their first year in the AFL in LA before moving to San Diego in 1961.
@@rockvilleraven the chargers we’re technically the only professional football team that started in LA. Every other team came from somewhere else. Even the dodgers and lakers if you want to talk other sports.
Remember that the Charges played their first season in LA.
As for the Florida Panthers, this postseason could help them stay in the Miami area.
You have to remember that the various leagues don't want to lose certain markets.
Sunrise, Florida.
@@FresnoStatePodcaststill the Miami metro area, are you dumb? Lack comprehension???
I thought the panthers were in Orlando (I'm a noob to the NHL by the way)
Oh don't worry. There's a lot of people here who will teach you.
@@KamsPoliticalPredictions they’re near Miami, in sunrise
Why do they do they bother using the term "state of the art" when it comes to these venues? Once they're built, twenty-five or thirty years down the road, they're going to be considered obsolete.
Kauffman Stadium may be 50 years old, but at least it was well-maintained and should be a historical ballpark like Wrigley Field and Fenway Park.
Rays in st.Pete move to Tampa and the panthers in Sunrise move to Ft Lauderdale or Miami would slove both problems this is why the attendance is poor because all people live in the cities like 75% of rays fans including me live 1 hour from the trop but 25 minutes from Tampa I would go way more if they just moved there you are right about all of us complaining that the stadium is in St.Pete it’s horrible
Moving to Miami would destroy the Florida Panthers.
Why?
It's because if you look at the demographics of the Miami-Fort Lauderdale-West Palm Beach area, most white, non-hispanic people, hockey's fan base, lives in Palm Beach and Broward counties. Taking the franchise all the way to Miami would alienate those fans as getting down to Miami from those areas is extremely difficult considering that one would likely take I-95, and it is like a parking lot in the hours leading up to a weekday game. The people in and around immediate Miami are mostly hispanics, and they are not going to watch hockey. To be honest, if you were to move the team anywhere within the market, West Palm Beach would be better than even Sunrise.
@@willp.8120 yea I didn’t think about it that way
Just because we play in London more than the other teams, doesn’t mean we would move there. Jacksonville is NOT losing the Jags. Our new state of the art trading facility is gone be done this off-season and Khan has been trying to improve the River walk area. We’ve got a new 4-seasons hotel being built right next to the stadium also
Plus, Jacksonville is seeing a lot of population growth. Just in the last two years, the Jacksonville metropolitan area has gained seventy thousand people.
Population means nothing if no support. It happened to St Louis. You better give them a stadium or else.
Khan seems to have a good working relationship with city government, and the city also wants to keep the annual Florida Georgia game. The Jags will get the stadium renovations they want.
No one has explained how relocating a team to London would actually work. A prime time game in NY (8pm) would start at 1am in London. Even the late Sunday afternoon window wouldn't start until 9pm in London.
@@JLReif I think the only way a team in london works is if they had a european division.
Buddy the Texans were pretty much always in the top third in total, average, and percentage throughout the 2010s.. just to watch guys like Mallet, Hoyer, and Brock Osweiler. It’s not the fan bases fault they haven’t been a good team.
I don't think sport team relocations should happen anymore the leagues should just wait for expansion like the nhl it also hurts the fans of the previous cities they played in when they relocate
The issue with the Panthers is akin to the Rays: Their arena is not at all easily accessible. If they built a new arena back in Miami (like what existed in the 90's) or even Fort Lauderdale, those attendance issues would likely be quelled. Sunrise isn't the greatest site for the arena.
As canadian hockey fan totally agree with this, always wondered why they dont move the Florida Panthers to downtown Miami, would be far more accessible and bring more attention to the team, what a finals run the Panthers had.
This list is based on nothing but ignorance.
And as of tonight, the Florida Panthers just clinched the Cup finals and have a rocking barn. I know hockey’s not your primary sport, but it would help to look at ‘now’ as well as the history
The Florida panthers aren’t moving have you seen how popular they are right now
It often takes people who haven't been keeping up with attendance figures a few years to catch up with reality after a team previously had bad attendance for many years.
and playing in the Stanley Cup Finals
The North Stars moved a few years after making the Stanley Cup finals
Two Things: 1. The Rams are from Cleveland, not LA. The upstart Browns ran them out of town. 2. The Blue Jackets are not moving. Nationwide Arena is a great venue and the team pulls solid attendance. They averaged more fans than the Panthers despite being considerably worse.
KC is a great ballpark. i wish other teams did what they had done. Great Parking, Great food, and a great place to watch a game
Kc is beautiful
9:59 uhhhhh... have you watched the playoffs this year?
Cleveland may not always feel like it is, but I do honestly think that Cleveland is a baseball city.
Weirdly enough yeah
"Major League"
So…I’ve been to several MLB stadiums and IMO the finest of them all is easily Royals stadium , it still is gorgeous.
The original Architecture firm that designed Royals stadium and Arrowhead stadium was HOK , for some reason on Wiki and other sights history has been completely re-written and credit for the building of these gems is given to a completely different firm that wasn’t even in the stadium architecture space at the time these were built 🤦
These stadiums can only be described as the “ Frank Lloyd Wright” of stadiums , they are masterpieces and should be preserved at all cost ; by the way I hate what they did to the waterfall section , if I could I would tear it down and reset it to its original beauty…
10:55 Such a lazy narrative from Miami/west coast people.. “other things to do in MY city” definitely! Bc Chicago, Boston, Philly, NYC, DC have NOTHING else to do there, don’t ya know?
His last video he said something like , "the exterior of the arena is bad for basketball..." lol
Why would play any sport in a dome in Florida ?? Except hockey and basketball.
Arizona D'Backs, KC Royals, Miami Marlins, and Houston Texans are all definitely not relocating either at all or anytime soon. Texans definitely least likely to lose their team.
They might move from their current stadium (with the exception for Marlins) but I don't see them all leaving the general area altogether... Like the most I've heard is like Dbacks considering moving to Scottsdale, closer to where their spring facilities was, and Royals also trying to move into downtown too...
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I think this guy likes to jump through conclusions with out stating facts.
No way Houston is going to lose the Texans with that stadium
@@ddddirge I agree bro, they'll just leave their stadiums like Houston will probably leave NRG in the next 10 years. Royals are moving downtown in a few years. I think the D'Backs will stay in downtown Phoenix at Chase Field since it's still in good shape and will probably just need a facelift at some point. Miami's park is still too new and in great shape.
@@briancalifornia1 He does as he has no real info, he always talks about Chase Field in Phoenix like it's a bad ballpark when it's not. LOL!
There is no way in hell that Jerry Jones allows another NFL team into his market. Austin is simply to close to Dallas. Yes, I know NY and LA share teams, but this is different.
The Rams actually started in Cleveland, where they played from 1937-1945, winning the NFL championship that year. They moved to LA for 1946
The Browns started up in 1946 in the AAFC, merging into the NFL in 1950 after the failure of the AAFC
In addition, the Browns won all four AAFC titles, then won the NFL title in 1950 as well.
What if the rams actually stayed in Cleveland
The Texans are not going anywhere. It’s a big football city just wish Tennessee would give them the oilers name. Idk what this guy is talking about
The Rams use to play at Angels Stadium before the moved to St. Louis.
Anaheim stadium yeah I don’t think the rams should have ever left Los Angeles they definitely did not fit in St. Louis
They should've stayed in Cleveland and Sports Relocations shouldn't have happened because fans will be hurt the most
10:00 “a lot of people say columbus”
No thats just an L take columbus blue jackets are here to stay
You are Wrong Dude. Texas loves there Football.
I was all ears until he mention Houston Texans I was like hold up "STOP THE CAP" explain Plzzz and he did well he did and it STILL DONT MAKE SENSE but it's his opinion soo whatever
Jacksonville? A small city? Green bay, a larger city?
The Dude is factually challenged.
Damn another video and fresh content. This channel is becoming epic glad i clicked that Sub button.
The NHL struggles in florida have you seen the attendance for the tampa bay lightning.
I think he misses the mark often. Then again, he could be "only" referencing the FLORIDA Panthers and not Florida in general.
I think he was referring more to the Miami area of Florida
@@stevep8445" qwark" instead of "quirk" 😂
The Cincinnati Bengals were at risk of moving but if they want a new stadium they can get it. Their lease is up in 3 years.
The Bengals don't need a new stadium.
I naver knew there were rumors about the Indians moving out of Cleveland. The reason the Indians are drawing such poor crowds is because of their stupid name change.
Not gonna lie, man... and I'm saying this respectfully... as soon as you said "I don't think Houston is a very good NFL town", I kinda tuned out...
I get it's your opinion, but c'mon, man.
(And if anything, the Jaguars would move to San Antonio before Austin. They've had MUCH more experience with holding pro football teams, albeit Spring Leagues and temporary sites for NFL games.)
The retractable roof at Chase Field HASN'T WORKED in THREE YEAR'S (including THIS season), THAT'S the BIGGEST complaint the team and fans have. Other than THAT, it's a BEAUTIFUL indoor stadium. I went to 3 games there last year.
With exception to the roof NOT opening (broken cables that they refuse to replace), everything else was fine.
They are moving to Vancouver. I have inside information on it.
Please stop talking crap on cleveland when you don’t know what you are talking about. Thank you
My Jags aren't going anywhere out of Jax. Stop the nonsense
not anymore. There was a time when I would have said if a second team was going to Europe then it would have been a done deal.
Love your videos, but you need to learn how to edit them properly. You have so many mistakes verbally that you could just edit out!!!
Your reasons for the Texans moving are solely and only based on your own hate for NRG. Be better.
*video suggestion:* talk about the new MLS expansion (San Diego, St. Louis, etc.)
Come on man. Quit hating on Houston. When clowns are running the show and a pervert at qb, do you blame the fans? 2 Super bowls and 3 final fours have been held at NRG. You just hate Houston because of the Astros. Well, just stick it. We have 2 WS championships, even though they got caught cheating. Know why the did not yank the 17 trophy away? Because it would have come out about other teams doing the same thing. Just keep hating dude
Florida Panthers have been rumored to move since the mid 2000s so far it hasn't happened
I think the Panthers will be OK with their deep postseason run.
They will be on the move if the attendance doesn't pick up.
@@saltbae865 Not until 2029-30 that's when the lease with the county is up
There are a lot of Texans fans in Houston, they just don’t go to the games. Also it’s probably location bias, but I like NRG Stadium
Arizona haven't been good meanwhile they go to the world series finals
N.O. Definitely need a new arena in order to keep the NBA. Remember they already lost one NBA team.
The Coyotes should change there name and move to Wisconsin
The Milwaukee Beer Steins, "Steins", for short.
The Kaufmann stadium rehab was in 2008-09 not in 2003. And by the way the Tampa Lightning have no trouble drawing crowds.
Winning 3 Stanley Cups - including 2 in a row in recent years - certainly helps.
The k was renovated in the early 2000's too
MLB came to KC in 2012 for the All-Star game contingent on refurbishing Kaufmann. That renewal of the stadium occurred between 2009-2011 and really saved the Royals in KC. KC & Cleveland and other midwestern cities suffer the plague of nearly all being small market teams. The new player contract increasing the maximum team payroll way (without penalty & the surtax) beyond what non-coastal cities like KC can afford only hurt midwestern teams. Baseball really has screwed up competitive balance. Right now only 3 of the 2 MLB 10 central division 2023 teams have a winning record. Unless competitive balance ever happens (all a part of MLB's exemption from the Sherman Anti-Trust act, beginning 100 years ago under commissioner Kennesaw Mountain Landis, most, if not all small market teams, especially in the midwest will find themselves in financial jeopardy and looking to move to the coasts in the future for sufficient TV & fan revenue to compete regularly.
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I don't think the Texans and Cowboys would be in favor of a team in either Austin or San Antonio.
Jaguars aren’t going anywhere anytime soon my guy. This is an old lazy take
Your video editing is bad, stop leaving bad takes in your video
7:01, that is such a bad take, the Texans won't probably ever relocate. Houston loves the team, even through the good and bad and with the new upcoming core they have, it's reignited the fanbase and given them hope for the future
To be honest I think chase field looks fine!
Yeah there’s nothing wrong with it really. Besides maybe being too big for their current attendance, but that’s really just an aesthetics thing
Yeah same. As someone who hasn’t actually been but from what I’ve seen on tv and just from images, it looks really good
The outside is a bit hangerlike but the inside is quite nice. It has a good ambience! Love the weird angles around the outfield wall, etc
I think the Diamondbacks would do better if they relocate to either Vancouver, British Columbia in Canada and became the British Columbia Diamondbacks or further west to Portland, Oregon and became the Portland Diamondbacks in the MLB
The channel that is full of all options and absolutely no facts 💯
Royals aren’t going anywhere.
Yep, same with the Diamondbacks.
The Royals won a Championship back in 2015
@@coreylevine8095 Then they dismantled that team not long after
The Los Angeles fans care about the Rams, but not about the Chargers. They have neveer really been an LA team
The Chargers should move back to San Diego. The fans there always supported them!
Somehow you have a successful youtube channel making videos about things people have already made videos on
Oakland is definitely moving to Vegas, TB I think stays on the Tampa Area. I think the D-Backs eventually get a new stadium somewhere in Arizona, the Royals I think eventually get a new stadium eventually next to Kaufman Stadium. I agree with you on the Jags staying as long as they can get a total redo for there stadium. You must not be old enough to remember the Oilers in Houston, they had die hard fans. The Chargers situation I tend to agree with you
Florida Panthers has plenty of support, considering their home games this playoffs are been rocking.
Here’s who I see moving soon
NFL: use to think Jaguars, but starting to doubt it
NHL: Coyotes and Panthers
MLB: Athletics, Rays, and maybe marlins. I know Dbacks and my brewers are rumored but I don’t see it happening and hope it doesn’t happen
The A's are a forgone conclusion. The two Florida teams have always faced challenges unique to the state in that fan loyalties have long been established through the many baseball spring training camps.
I don't see the Diamondbacks moving nor the Brewers, even though Milwaukee is the smallest market in MLB.
@@FischerFan hope the brewers don’t
@@YooperHatesOhioState I hope they don't, either. I'm a baseball fan from Canada and I know the Brewers were recently given some kind of ultimatum by MLB to renovate their stadium.
@@FischerFan yes we were and it’s dumb. Nothing wrong with the stadium. Manfred just wants to see small markets fail
The Rams were originally in Cleveland and the Chargers should move back to San Diego. They don’t have fans in Los Angeles.
That's not going to happen,the Chargers already moved to Los Angeles.
If you want to use the "Rams came from LA" argument, the Chargers played in LA in 1960 before moving to SD. The Rams originated in Cleveland. The Chargers originated in LA.
They played there for one year. That’s not enough time to build a fanbase.
Out of all of the teams listed in this video.. The Chargers relocating makes the most sense
Yeah the Chargers will move back to San Diego or relocate to Saint Louis
The panthers are not leaving that’s BS
WHY would the Rays stay in St Petersburg at the Trop site?
Wtf is a jag wire?
@@stevep8445 ahh yes the famously pronounced quo-back city and province which translates to English as ‘king kong’s butthole’ from its origins in the beautiful mandarin language
Move the coyotes to Atlanta 😂. I’m not even a hockey fan but that would be hilarious. Folks still miss the thrashers.
The Coyotes will likely move to a city that would still be in the Western Conference. No Eastern Time Zone team wants to play a Western Conference schedule, especially cone playoff time. And in the case an Eastern conference team relocates, Quebec has an 18,000 seat NHL calibre arena ready and fans that would welcome the new Nordiques with open arms.
@@MikeyKaos716 Red Wings were screaming bloody murder for years to try to find a way to not have to be in the West.
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@@YooperHatesOhioState good suggestion. 17k+ seat arena that's 15 years old, but should be much more than adequate for an NHL team long term, and it's been almost 50 years since the Scouts left, so they could get a second chance at a team.
@@MikeyKaos716 Milwaukee is who I really want to get the yotes but that will never happen
What is the deal with this guy's voice?
Florida just isn't conducive to hockey, despite the fact that the Lightning has won Stanley Cups and the Panthers are back to the Finals. Thank Gary Bettman for that development. Being back in the Finals will likely keep the Panthers in Miami for now.
Texans isn't leaving Houston
But, Houston can get the Coyotes and change the team's name to the Aeros.
In seeing the Houston stadium from your pic, I like it. Multiple levels means multiple concourses. I live about 2 hours from where the Bills play and you can even use the bathroom because of a single concourse. And the problem with the Panthers they are too far from Miami. Not saying Miami proper is the answer. Maybe Orlando?
After a proposed $2.1 billion entertainment district in Tempe was put on hold for good last night, Alex Meruelo will have no choice but to sell the Coyotes to Pierre Karl Peladeau for $968 million, so next season, the Coyotes will relocate to Quebec City to become the Quebec Nordiques and play their home games at Videotron Centre.
@@stevep8445 I don't care, so put that pipe down.
@@stevep8445 exactly. 2024-2025 I would expect the Coyotes to find a new den.
Then bring a current AHL team to the National Hockey League (NHL) Milwaukee Admirals or the current ECHL (East Coast Hockey League) team Utah Grizzlies to NHL and put them in the Central Division and Western Conference
In regard to the Jacksonville Jaguars, it's certainly true that their current digs, TIAA Bank Field, is one of the worst stadia in the NFL, and should the team not get the renovation they need, then a move may very well happen; in that regard, London is a definite possibility, however, a move to "the Live Music Capitol of the World", Austin, may just make the AFC top heavy in teams from the Lone Star State, as the AFC already has the Texans, while the NFC has a certain team in North Texas which shall not be named in this post, as I'm an Eagles fan.
Concerning the Texans, as far as I'm concerned, when that ballclub let J.J. Watt go, they screwed up big time - hence, it's my belief that the Texans are a bill of goods; incidentally, when it comes to the NFL in Houston, I'm one who still says, "Look Out Football, Here We Come - Houston Oilers, Number One!"
I hope I haven't bored all of you fine folks.
Somebody please take the Titans off my hands
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That college football game at Bristol motor speedway Virginia vs Tennessee was an insane one.
Nascar in LA colliseum ...baseball in LA colliseum. MLB at London Olympic stadium I think and in Adelaide oval.
Then there was a NBA preseason game at Indian wells tennis stadium maybe a decade ago
The WNBA New York Liberty had an outdoor preseason game at Arthur Ashe Stadium, where the Westminster Dog Show was also moved to this year with the roof closed, after a few years in Tarrytown, NY due to Covid.
Not sure what happened in Cleveland, they used to have sell outs all the time when it was the Jacobs Field. Then they caved to the woke and changed the name which people really don't like. To be fair I think the rainouts cause the issues to a point. But they can't even sell out playoff games. Sad. As for the NFL no other team is ever going to move into Texas as long as JJ is the owner of the Cowboys. Its just a non starter, he has too much power.
Cleveland has really fallen as a premier American city. It looks like an old, rust bucket town that has seen its better days. Its population is declining and aging, much like Pittsburgh. It's also not a very big city, nor one with a lot of wealth, so that makes it more challenging to go to games.
Cleveland has had an attendance problems for years despite fielding winning teams. The best teams ,07, 16, & 17, didn't draw well. But then there always has to be someone (I'm being nice) injecting "woke" where it doesn't apply as the reason.
Many of the fans have this "The Dolans are cheap" fixation, not realizing that a new owner would replace the Antonett--Chernoff-Tito troika, who have been largely responsible for the winning teams.
Royals are not going anyplace. Too many locations in the city to move too since to the new owners committed to keeping the royals in the city
Can the Lakers disappear?
Dude, stadiums don't need to cost billions. How the fuck is Chase Field outdated? It's not exactly new. We don't need teams like the Braves getting a new stadium every 25 years.
I think Truist Park is here to stay for at least forty years.
Florida Panthers are a weird situation, since ownership owns the land around the arena. They play 30 minutes to 2 hours west of Fort Lauderdale. Miami is an estimated 45 minute drive without traffic (we will get a more accurate picture when lack of traffic occurs). The team needs an arena more centrally located, closer to Fort Lauderdale or Miami, and not across the Highway from Sawgrass National Reserve (a swamp),
They aren't 2 hours west of Ft. Lauderdale even with traffic. That said, yes, any new arena would be best served being built closer to Ft. Lauderdale. Maimi would be mistake unless they place it in a similar area to where the Dolphins play. The arena needs to be in a place where it can best serve the tricounty area.
The Everglades is beautiful btw.
@@highfive2935 The Miami-Fort Lauderdale at its widest point is no more than a little over 20 miles wide, and that is farther south. Where Sunrise is, it might be around fifteen miles wide from the beach to the Everglades.
8:23 Pels aren’t going anywhere. The stadium is about to get a makeover.
Cleveland just resigned their lease to stay at Progressive Field another 15 years. They aren’t going anywhere. And attendance shouldn’t be your only measurable metric, Cleveland has one of the best TV viewerships in the country.
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