Just a fantastic training video. Doesn't get a much better explanation than this. I would add that even though the timing chain components and engine internals look great folks should do a couple more things do to the amount of work involved. As in better safe than sorry. If changing the timing chain assembly every GM tech I know says to AUTOMATICALLY do the balance shafts as well. Also with that many miles always install a new water pump. If it fails after 20k miles or whatever you have to do the whole job all over.
Just wondering shouldn't the exhaust have the black link and intake have the orange link. Colored links on both sides of the chain? Maybe my ocd is just coming out.
Chad, I watch your video on the timing chain replacement, you were very good and precise. The only negative was when you torqued the cam shaft sprockets you said to torque to 22 ft pounds and another 100 as a diy I did not understand the 100. Would have been nice if you went through that torque process. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Bill R
Think of a circle as 360 degrees. 90 degrees is 1/4. Look at the hands on the clock. At 12:00 the minute hand is straight up at the 12. If you move the hand 90° that puts it at number three. 100 degrees is going to be about give or take where the number 4 is. So when you tighten that bolt, you want to move that bolt about the same amount.
I have one of these engines to do chains on soon and my service data says I need the phaser locking tool that bolts down to the head and locates in the phasers? I noticed you didn't use anything to lock them, maybe it's not required?
I have a 2.2 with close to 300k, Chain kit installed at 245k, still was original chain and tensioner. These are good little motors IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM!!!! so change that oil!!!
When you set TDC in the beginning of the video you stated that the cam lobes should be facing up on the number one piston which is wrong. When you set TDC you have to make sure the cam gear diamonds should be facing at the and 2:00 on intake and 11:00 on the exhaust. I don’t know if you redid your TDC but when I saw you install the cam gears I noticed the cam lobes where facing down so idk what happened but people can be misguided if they follow those instructions.
I indeed have 3 cobalts and have owned at least 6 of these engines. I’ve done timing on one of them and can say if you follow this guys steps you will mess up as this motor is an interference engine… you should start on exhaust stroke as your timing marks should be in the 10 and 2 position before taking ANYTHING off. If you look closely at 20:42 you will notice the phasers has changed position by 180 degrees. If you’re new to cars or don’t have a ton of experience I would highly recommend taking it to a professional. Yes it is pricey but it’s cheaper than having to replace the whole motor…good look to anyone that try’s it. PLEASE USE A DIFFERENT VIDEO
When I originally replaced my timing cover gasket I did use an impact drill and turned the balancer bolt counter clockwise a couple of turns. Would that cause any damage?
Hey ive got a 16 equinox 2.4 auto awd. Its showing 3 codes i think, p219a, p0420, p0014, p0013 which is mostly timing stuff, fuel air mix, exhaust. it runs great one trip next time splutters everywere with lose of power until get plugs burning hot or something. Ive definatly gotta get a new hose that goes to use to be a pcv on Valve cover. But can you tell me what i need to do the timing completeley. lifetime warranty parts i dont like when their cheap because it means ill still have to do it again. If you have time id like to know what to buy and a fair brand something to actually last. Also my engine had the tube stopped offf on engine so lots seals and gaskets leak. What seals and gaskets that wont come in a kit can i replace while tearing into that part of the engine and any other things you would suggest changing instead of what i said? Any seals i can get to def needs done. it has abt 200000. people complains abt the 2.4 but ive not had to do anything until now with a lil over 200. ours has been great and we live in the WV mountians so its been used well. I hope you can find the time, Thanks !!!
You could but that one doesn't have all the stress on it like the cam chain, water pump and balance shafts just spin freely so it should outlast the engine.
@@kevandhistoyzz36 You wouldn't happen to know... That secondary chain looks extremely loose like its tensioner is doing nothing. Also, in this video, with the plugs out, his engine looked to spin very freely. Mine is free 80% of the time then gets difficult and makes a click like it's surpassing something. It really didn't make a difference when I took the plugs out.
I have a g5 my engine whines like crazy but goes away when I turn 1 direction. Almost positive it’s timing guide. I wanna replace it all like in this videos but I’ll have to do it while it’s in the car. 2.2. I’m super sketched out.
If ypu notice in video his cam sprockets timing marks when at TDC on compression stroke are facing down and to inside, but video cuts then there in correct spot, this is due to 2.2 needing to be at TDC on exhaust stroke.
Is this the standard 2.4L, as found in late '90 early 2000 model Chevy, or is it the newer Ecotech version? Anyone know. Edit: for an extra $150 (Cdn) you could replace entire timing system; sprockets, chain, guides, tensioner. Even if chain is still "good" at 150k I'd still replace seeing as engine and cover already off.
Yeah, this fix is super easy when the motor is out of the vehicle. Mine just happens to be inside of a Captiva, which is some sort of Japanese f*ck-knot torture box for work space. All I have is a driveway, some tools, a manual, and the internet…. But, Im going to attempt it! Thank you for the information, none the less, because this will be my go-to for on the fly re-call. Thank you!
Hello, I don't see in the video when and how the camshafts themselves are locked. The camshafts have to be locked before the camshaft gears are removed, or am I looking at this incorrectly? In every other engine, the camshafts are locked before the camshaft sprockets and chain are removed! Please to enlightenment.
Before you take the timing chain off you can take a 15/16 or I think it’s a 23 mm don’t quote me on that anyway put it on the nut just behind the camshaft saddle or where it bolts down closest to the VVT sprocket and the cam will I think it would be advance with the wrench lightly do not force it if it does move that is a bad VVT sprocket they’re not supposed to move they are supposed to remain locked unless there’s oil pressure. If they’re very loose you can hold that plastic piece on the end of the VVT sprocket and actually turn it by hand. I hope this helps
My chain is so tight that I can't move it around the gears like you do I'm having you pay it all in line and try to tighten it up my cams was moved on me because I took the tensioner out too soon they may be may mess up how tell if cams are in right place
Probably already commented but I've seen videos that insist only use oem replacement parts. Oh. I see Amazon was acdelco. Any chance Amazon acdelco is fake product?
Nobody should use this video especially if you are new to this. The timing was not set correctly before disassembly. Timing needs to be set at TDC on the EXHAUST stroke not the compression stroke as shown here.
Bro I was yelling at my t.V plz don't use this video It is very misleading and the Timeing way off The cams are supposed to be set at a 45 degree Angle and bro It was killing me the whole time
Whats the correct way? Is his timing marks lined up correctly? I've worked on alot of cars and was unable to find a timing diagram for this 2.4 engine. I don't work on chevys mainly dodge and ford.
Pretty sure exhaust should be at 10 o’clockintake should be at 2 o’clock there will be a triangle on the intake and exhaust camshaft sprocket and should be in forementioned positions. Crankshaft keyway should be at high noon. Anyway that’s what it is on a 2010 terrain 2.4 L. And camshafts both lobes should be pointing in words down. If I have done my work correctly. If I have not I will be more than happy to admit I was wrong. Before you put it all back together with the with the covers off Put the bolt in The crankshaft and rotate it clockwise slowly to make sure your valves aren’t hitting your pistons. If I have gave any miss information which I’m pretty sure I have not you will not feel any resistance as you’re rolling over and if you would like to be sure put a spark plug back in the number one hole loosely and you should be able to hear the compression release to the spark plug continue to turn not much until corresponding timing marks lineup again. If they do then you’re golden put it together and enjoy your engine you’ll be surprised how well it will run. Don’t forget to change the oilAnd filter. Do you need fresh oil and keep an eye on the level every week two weeks blah blah until you figure out in 30 days how much oil you need to add every so often do not let it run low you’ll end up with the same problem again. Have a wonderful day God bless
Great content , but probably shouldn’t have played with the timing like that. Would have been much better if u showed everyone how to keep everything under “Tdc” specs. Noobs/amateurs shouldn’t even think of advancing timing AT ALL. There are tricks to keep the cams from moving and ways to re install the sprockets without having to reposition the cams.
Your timing marks are positioned incorrectly. The colour links specifies which position they need to go the black markings. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be on the crankshaft double check your progress.
The Valves will NOT Hit the Pistons on an Ecotech, I have changed them on Ecotech's that SNAPPED the Chain while Driving on the Freeway, they are Not "Valve Slappers!" @Chad Williams
Never use a hard object to on chain to release tension. You will damage your chain, your supposed to use the other side of that screw driver plastic handle, also when you were rotating the crank at end i saw your chain slap against the highest top chain guide . Your timing is off
They are saying replacing the timing chain is not worth it, and you should get a whole new engine. The alarming thing is that they talk about it, they do not do it. The other option is me riding a bike and it taking long amounts of time to get groceries ext. I do not like the social aspect of not having a vehicle. Not being able to do activities like everybody else and being more capable in some aspects of my life. The lack of respect hurts my feelings sometimes. Many other people drive and do not want to give up the privilege. If they are not able to drive then they will not be able to go to work ext. They do not know what it is like to ride a bike everywhere or what it is like to have to ride a bike for errands.
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30 year mechanic here. Great video. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing. Yours is probably the most easily understood how to video. Great job!
Dude this is super helpful and i wanna say thank you for the work you do
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Really what's the torque on the cam phasers
Great explanation sir thank you
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Just a fantastic training video. Doesn't get a much better explanation than this. I would add that even though the timing chain components and engine internals look great folks should do a couple more things do to the amount of work involved. As in better safe than sorry. If changing the timing chain assembly every GM tech I know says to AUTOMATICALLY do the balance shafts as well. Also with that many miles always install a new water pump. If it fails after 20k miles or whatever you have to do the whole job all over.
I'm doing that on an 07 cobalt ss right now 😂
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Absolutely the best timing chain replacement video ever!
Just wondering shouldn't the exhaust have the black link and intake have the orange link. Colored links on both sides of the chain? Maybe my ocd is just coming out.
I was thinking the same thing. I thought in the beginning in was reversed
Chad, I watch your video on the timing chain replacement, you were very good and precise. The only negative was when you torqued the cam shaft sprockets you said to torque to 22 ft pounds and another 100 as a diy I did not understand the 100. Would have been nice if you went through that torque process. Thanks for taking the time to make this video. Bill R
He is correct the specs are 22 ft pounds and another 100 degrees and he was pretty clear in the explanation
@@davidlichtcsien8660 Siery David clear to you , but I don’t understand the 100 degrees.
You torque the sprocket bolts to 22ft lbs, then you turn them additional 100 degrees
Think of a circle as 360 degrees. 90 degrees is 1/4. Look at the hands on the clock. At 12:00 the minute hand is straight up at the 12. If you move the hand 90° that puts it at number three. 100 degrees is going to be about give or take where the number 4 is. So when you tighten that bolt, you want to move that bolt about the same amount.
@@bigdnelyria Thank you for the explanation. I got it
I have one of these engines to do chains on soon and my service data says I need the phaser locking tool that bolts down to the head and locates in the phasers? I noticed you didn't use anything to lock them, maybe it's not required?
At 20:42 how did the phasers change position? Looks like each one was rotated 180 degrees when the transition occurred
Now this guy was paying attention.
So what did he actually do ? Off video?
I have a 2.2 with close to 300k, Chain kit installed at 245k, still was original chain and tensioner. These are good little motors IF YOU TAKE CARE OF THEM!!!! so change that oil!!!
That's a wicked echo, cool audio effect.
should you go ahead and change the other chain to since your there?
When you set TDC in the beginning of the video you stated that the cam lobes should be facing up on the number one piston which is wrong. When you set TDC you have to make sure the cam gear diamonds should be facing at the and 2:00 on intake and 11:00 on the exhaust. I don’t know if you redid your TDC but when I saw you install the cam gears I noticed the cam lobes where facing down so idk what happened but people can be misguided if they follow those instructions.
I indeed have 3 cobalts and have owned at least 6 of these engines. I’ve done timing on one of them and can say if you follow this guys steps you will mess up as this motor is an interference engine… you should start on exhaust stroke as your timing marks should be in the 10 and 2 position before taking ANYTHING off. If you look closely at 20:42 you will notice the phasers has changed position by 180 degrees. If you’re new to cars or don’t have a ton of experience I would highly recommend taking it to a professional. Yes it is pricey but it’s cheaper than having to replace the whole motor…good look to anyone that try’s it. PLEASE USE A DIFFERENT VIDEO
I love the video can you by any chance upload a link to the bolts you were waiting on
I'm 108 years old I remember these in the old days. 😆 🤣 😂
So I did my wife’s 2012 terrain 2.4L.. how do I know if I have it at TDC on the exhaust stroke and not the compression stroke?
When the cams are in the right spot lobes will be as far away from the lifters as possible. That is TDS for cylinder one.
Best way I've seen it explained is number 4 cyl TDC on a zzp video
I was always told to get new sprockets with a new chain. Cuz the new chain will have slop on wore out sprockets. Cause problems.
The chain is what gets all the ware so many connections places, lay the new one on top of the old one check the size.
When in doubt mic it out
When I originally replaced my timing cover gasket I did use an impact drill and turned the balancer bolt counter clockwise a couple of turns. Would that cause any damage?
good and clear information
Also, aren’t the camshaft-to-sprocket bolts “torque-to-yield” style? ( I.e. bolts should not be re-used? ) or am I mistaken? Please clarify this.
You are correct
A good chain kit will have new bolts and sprockets, guide shoes etc, etc.
Is the torque on the camshaft sprocket torque to yield bolts the same for the VVT vs the non VVT engines? 22 ft. lbs. plus 100 degrees?
Triple G building engines. Wild.
Hey ive got a 16 equinox 2.4 auto awd. Its showing 3 codes i think, p219a, p0420, p0014, p0013 which is mostly timing stuff, fuel air mix, exhaust. it runs great one trip next time splutters everywere with lose of power until get plugs burning hot or something. Ive definatly gotta get a new hose that goes to use to be a pcv on Valve cover. But can you tell me what i need to do the timing completeley. lifetime warranty parts i dont like when their cheap because it means ill still have to do it again. If you have time id like to know what to buy and a fair brand something to actually last. Also my engine had the tube stopped offf on engine so lots seals and gaskets leak. What seals and gaskets that wont come in a kit can i replace while tearing into that part of the engine and any other things you would suggest changing instead of what i said? Any seals i can get to def needs done. it has abt 200000. people complains abt the 2.4 but ive not had to do anything until now with a lil over 200. ours has been great and we live in the WV mountians so its been used well. I hope you can find the time, Thanks !!!
Do you need to relearn the eco after replacing
Is it necessary to change the second chain or leave it be
I need somebody's help I took my tensioner out first and my camms moved did I warp my vows
No you didn't
Since you had it apart, why didn't you replace the water pump and the chain? I mean it is already apart.
You could but that one doesn't have all the stress on it like the cam chain, water pump and balance shafts just spin freely so it should outlast the engine.
As a professional tech, you're 100% right. Both the timing and cam chains streach. Also the sprockets and chains should be replaced together.
@@kevandhistoyzz36 You wouldn't happen to know... That secondary chain looks extremely loose like its tensioner is doing nothing. Also, in this video, with the plugs out, his engine looked to spin very freely. Mine is free 80% of the time then gets difficult and makes a click like it's surpassing something. It really didn't make a difference when I took the plugs out.
I have a g5 my engine whines like crazy but goes away when I turn 1 direction. Almost positive it’s timing guide. I wanna replace it all like in this videos but I’ll have to do it while it’s in the car. 2.2. I’m super sketched out.
If ypu notice in video his cam sprockets timing marks when at TDC on compression stroke are facing down and to inside, but video cuts then there in correct spot, this is due to 2.2 needing to be at TDC on exhaust stroke.
Is this the standard 2.4L, as found in late '90 early 2000 model Chevy, or is it the newer Ecotech version? Anyone know.
Edit: for an extra $150 (Cdn) you could replace entire timing system; sprockets, chain, guides, tensioner. Even if chain is still "good" at 150k I'd still replace seeing as engine and cover already off.
That motor looks exactly the same that I have in my car which is a 2012 equinox
Ecotec engine.
Yeah, this fix is super easy when the motor is out of the vehicle. Mine just happens to be inside of a Captiva, which is some sort of Japanese f*ck-knot torture box for work space. All I have is a driveway, some tools, a manual, and the internet…. But, Im going to attempt it! Thank you for the information, none the less, because this will be my go-to for on the fly re-call. Thank you!
Hello,
I don't see in the video when and how the camshafts themselves are locked.
The camshafts have to be locked before the camshaft gears are removed, or am I looking at this incorrectly?
In every other engine, the camshafts are locked before the camshaft sprockets and chain are removed!
Please to enlightenment.
Before you take the timing chain off you can take a 15/16 or I think it’s a 23 mm don’t quote me on that anyway put it on the nut just behind the camshaft saddle or where it bolts down closest to the VVT sprocket and the cam will I think it would be advance with the wrench lightly do not force it if it does move that is a bad VVT sprocket they’re not supposed to move they are supposed to remain locked unless there’s oil pressure. If they’re very loose you can hold that plastic piece on the end of the VVT sprocket and actually turn it by hand. I hope this helps
Thank you so much ❤
So you gotta pull out the motor to do it? I got the code says its bad.
My chain is so tight that I can't move it around the gears like you do I'm having you pay it all in line and try to tighten it up my cams was moved on me because I took the tensioner out too soon they may be may mess up how tell if cams are in right place
Can you use a cobalt engine an a Malibu
Bolts on camshafts are not reusable you have to put new ones in
Don't know why those kits don't come with new bolts
He said this in the video
Wrong old bolts will last the life of the car.
Muito bom video gostei !
No problem when the engine is out. Problem is the lack space in the engine comartment .
Probably already commented but I've seen videos that insist only use oem replacement parts. Oh. I see Amazon was acdelco. Any chance Amazon acdelco is fake product?
can this be done with the engine in the car>?
Yes, I'm doing it currently
Did you do a video by any chance?
@@gadasavideos8564 no
@@gadasavideos8564 no thankfully i dont have this issue my cousin does
Nobody should use this video especially if you are new to this. The timing was not set correctly before disassembly. Timing needs to be set at TDC on the EXHAUST stroke not the compression stroke as shown here.
Bro I was yelling at my t.V plz don't use this video It is very misleading and the Timeing way off The cams are supposed to be set at a 45 degree Angle and bro It was killing me the whole time
Whats the correct way? Is his timing marks lined up correctly? I've worked on alot of cars and was unable to find a timing diagram for this 2.4 engine. I don't work on chevys mainly dodge and ford.
It's compression stroke my guy
Pretty sure exhaust should be at 10 o’clockintake should be at 2 o’clock there will be a triangle on the intake and exhaust camshaft sprocket and should be in forementioned positions. Crankshaft keyway should be at high noon. Anyway that’s what it is on a 2010 terrain 2.4 L. And camshafts both lobes should be pointing in words down. If I have done my work correctly. If I have not I will be more than happy to admit I was wrong. Before you put it all back together with the with the covers off Put the bolt in The crankshaft and rotate it clockwise slowly to make sure your valves aren’t hitting your pistons. If I have gave any miss information which I’m pretty sure I have not you will not feel any resistance as you’re rolling over and if you would like to be sure put a spark plug back in the number one hole loosely and you should be able to hear the compression release to the spark plug continue to turn not much until corresponding timing marks lineup again. If they do then you’re golden put it together and enjoy your engine you’ll be surprised how well it will run. Don’t forget to change the oilAnd filter. Do you need fresh oil and keep an eye on the level every week two weeks blah blah until you figure out in 30 days how much oil you need to add every so often do not let it run low you’ll end up with the same problem again. Have a wonderful day God bless
@@mikepine7054 At TDC on EXHAUST stroke exhaust cam will be at 10 0’clock and intake will be at 2 O’clock
wow.... not for the weak at fate, how much would you charge to do this job? If someone bought the parts?
I got a quote anywhere from $1600 to $2200
Why does the chain still have slack at the top when you were turning the motor by ratchet? -TIA.
Do you have to remove the oil in order to change the chain?
Cost for job installed
I literally do these in about an hour while still in the car.
prove it by making a video of the job
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you neglected to be mentioned this engine also be in Vauxhall, OpéŁ und Holdén Astra Veee-Hikulls two
Difference between neglect and indifference...
Great content , but probably shouldn’t have played with the timing like that. Would have been much better if u showed everyone how to keep everything under “Tdc” specs. Noobs/amateurs shouldn’t even think of advancing timing AT ALL. There are tricks to keep the cams from moving and ways to re install the sprockets without having to reposition the cams.
Your timing marks are positioned incorrectly. The colour links specifies which position they need to go the black markings. I’m pretty sure it’s supposed to be on the crankshaft double check your progress.
The Valves will NOT Hit the Pistons on an Ecotech, I have changed them on Ecotech's that SNAPPED the Chain while Driving on the Freeway, they are Not "Valve Slappers!" @Chad Williams
25:50 can someone explain?
Engaging “Releasing” the tensioner
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How can I contact you? I‘m an engine supplier from China.
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This job isnt so bad in the car the problem is the static guide blew off and it broke a bolt in their tapping it our is a nightmare
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Don't use a impact on those little bolts or you 'll be sorry. Use a ratchet and torque everything properly!
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These videos give you at least a basic understanding of your car!
Read the comments too!
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Never use a hard object to on chain to release tension. You will damage your chain, your supposed to use the other side of that screw driver plastic handle, also when you were rotating the crank at end i saw your chain slap against the highest top chain guide . Your timing is off
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They are saying replacing the timing chain is not worth it, and you should get a whole new engine. The alarming thing is that they talk about it, they do not do it. The other option is me riding a bike and it taking long amounts of time to get groceries ext. I do not like the social aspect of not having a vehicle. Not being able to do activities like everybody else and being more capable in some aspects of my life. The lack of respect hurts my feelings sometimes. Many other people drive and do not want to give up the privilege. If they are not able to drive then they will not be able to go to work ext. They do not know what it is like to ride a bike everywhere or what it is like to have to ride a bike for errands.
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Intake hella advanced no? Did it start? It didnt did it 😂
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The gasket is NOT REUSABLE, for the LSJ AND LNF you wanna replace the gasket!
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The sprockets need to be replaced also, never mix worn parts with new parts
do you recommend also replacing the crank sprocket as well? thanks
@@chrisdevroy3172 Yes
PS: Is the comment true? The stating the position of the TDC position being at the exhaust stroke? Thank you.
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I think the instructions are incorrect for setting the timing