Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals Review - Microsoft Flight sim 2020 / XP11 / DCS
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- Опубликовано: 7 янв 2020
- We review the Thrustmaster T-Flight Rudder Pedals which at this point in time are the best value rudder pedals for flight simulators like Microsoft flight sim 2020 Xplane 11 and DCS.
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I've had mine for a while and now I can't fly without them. Using rudder peddles with a flight sim makes flying so much better especially in prop aircraft such as the warbirds you find in IL-2 or DCS World.
I think it's time for "I beat you with flight controllers" in a racing sim.
lol would make for a great vid I am sure
I have these pedals, they work great in DCS World in the F18 Hornet. I lay a box in front of them against the wall, does the job and keeps them from sliding. Great review, straight to the point!
They still going strong?
I can’t get DCS to read the pedals. Any advice?
@@samcarter1848 Does windows read the pedals?
@@beanieteamie7435 yes if I open my windows control panel and go to game controllers windows reads every button, It reads the joystick, and it reads the pedals. But when I get into DCS I have no rudder control and the game does not sense it. I was wondering if I need that adaptor to plug the pedals directly into the pc using usb
@@samcarter1848 have you looked for software ?
3:43 "The more left and right it is, there more vomit there'll be in your cabin" How come real life flight instructors don't explain it that eloquently?
lol They do.
Great review. My favourite part was the thrustmaster lube section haha!
Awesome Vid! I purchased all components individually over the course of a year and after watching your video, I finally purchased the foot pedals. I'm still not looking forward to mapping everything though.
"... because I mean, every one knows, you don't slide dry, you slide with a bit of lube; it's going to be more fun. I mean, come on Thrustmaster; you're called Thrust Master!!! You should get these things right!!!" Nothing truer has been said! The best way to begin 2020!
you can stick velcro tape (the side with the hooks) with adhesive layer onto the underside of the rudder pedals to get them secured on the carpet.
I’ve used these for combat sims for a few years but always found they are too close together to be able to have the fine control you need to aim at a small ground target. I’m moving over to saitek as they are better spaced apart.
Great video. But what do you use to control the throttle?
All this preperation for the new MS Flight Simulator. GM seems hyped af! 😄
thanks for the review think you need to be a commentary for f1, killa voice champ
ever heard of DCS? Yeah its a JET game, you get to fly fighter jets, its fun as!
I now have 2 sets of Thrustmaster pedals, 1 set of logitech ones... and no flightSIM. Influence success 100%!
can you send me the spare lol
Which one do you prefer? Logitech or thrustmaster?
Im just wrapping my hrad around using them for war thunder tank rb, using the right one as gas and the left as a break pedal with the turning for tank turning whilst driving tanks. For planes it might be a complete gamechanger, with the indipendent left and right wheel break, capping caps with planes gonna be a lot easier
I’ll tell ya, they’re great. I use them for DCS. They are sensitive. I need a lot of de sensitivity lol. I use the x-52 pro and always hated the twist. Played x-plane 9 and Falcon Allied Forces also. Some day, it’ll be the $650 pedals lol.
Great review. Thanks
Thank you. Good info... Just purchased....
Thanks for the review. What is the name of glider simulator you've played in the video at 8'52"?
thanks for the advice bro
I have these and they're fine, I just wish they were a bit wider apart.
you can 3d print a mod to make them wider :)
Gonna try using my clutch and gaspedal for the rudder. Should work. But the toe brakes is something I could fall in love with. Don't like using buttons for that. Almost always results in a spitfire drift session. Good video btw.
How was it? I am seriously considering the same
@@VongolaEX10 worked good. Just need to remember to lift the other foot when using the other one. I got used to quickly
"Give it some welly"....I must look that up in my flight manual lol
Great video, thanks for sharing!..
Could you do a review of these pedals after some time/months of usage?
Thanks for the review. I now need pedals because BOTH possible yaw axis on throttle and stick have severe ghosting. Making me scared to go with another Thrustmaster. (T16000M)
Your review was pretty spot on! I just received mine and I'm very pleased with them. For its price its very decent quality, the build is very hard plastic so it doesn't flex or creak on pressure. I have a Warthog HOTAS and this seems to complement it very well.
you still use them both with no isseu's?
@Remko ☘️ They work fine. Only thing is the rudder calibration is a tad drifty so it's hard to get the sensitivity right. It lacks precision but for the price I guess can't complain.
Use stick on velcro to keep them from sliding on carpet.
I have had these pedals for 2 years and never knew they had toe brakes.....F thanks for the education
Lmao
good video! some mentioned this paddle is very sticky.? not accurate?
i like the socks GM, they're very nice
Got them for Xmas
Try right on the aileron and left rudder on that crosswind from the right. You want to land on your right wheel. 😉
Look for once and for all, ALL SINGLE PROP AIRCRAFT turn left due to P Factor, corkscrew affect, engine torque, and gyroscopic procession. Its not a bad pedal setting nor cross wind. Look them up.
No these pedals are rubbish , yes I know about planes pulling to the side from the torque as well as helicopters.
I have these and just out of warranty a toe brake cable broke. Luckily I repaired them but wouldn’t waste money on another pair. Yes they don’t glide that smooth. It’s better to bite the bullet and save up and buy descent Rudder pedals that would last along time.
And wich ones are those?, the Thrustmaster TPR are crazy expensive and I just can't buy them without getting divorced! XD
@@JP-xd6fm win-win
13:19 Would have been nice to go in detail why these instead of the logitech one.
Was it because value/price was better? (as in they are worse than logitech ones but the price was so much better)
Was it because value was the same but price was better?
Or were these better than the logitech ones (leaving the better price aside).
"Everybody knows you don't slide dry; you slide with a bit of lubricant on it" -GamerMuscleVideos
00:34 appreciate it! Can you teach us about joystick or joke functions as well? Also basics of how to fly a flight? Thanks!
Lesson 1: Play Pilotwings 😉
Price point, usability, and quality are always a trade off game. It is perfectly possible to pick up some nicely built aircraft aluminum high quality pedals for 5x the price.
would i be able to set these up with the logitech g 945 yoke system as the logteich pedals are alot of money and are unavailable??
I just bought the flight system today, how are your pedals holding up are they still ok?
was gonna buy these now i want THRUSTMASTER TPR confirmed =]
Nice video, Any pedals with hall? , . I bought saitek rudder pedals but im not shure about durability,
On the thrustmaster T.flight 4 stick you can lock the rotation of the stick so it won’t interfere with the pedals
New to flight sims, and I am from the Dover area, so when I saw that footage from the glider used for a moment my jaw dropped! I didn't know there was anything that represented my local area so well. Is it a particular scenery expansion pack for XP11 that you use? Would really appreciate finding out!
It's orbex true earth great Britton , might be worth holding out for MSFS2020 right now ytough
Thanks! And I'll take that under advisement :)
Only downside with xp11 is that it doesn't simulate wave lift , but does have a randomised thermal system over land and does have ridge lift for hills.
Had them for a year now. They were great in the first few weeks, but now they are binding/sticking really bad. Cleaned them, lubed them with Teflon, Silicone etc., but the are getting worse and worse. Thinking of getting rid of them as they ruin the experience...
Which one is an better alternative? I want high quality and realistic pedals like in a PA28 or DA62
I managed to twist of my third damn joystick of its base.....This time It was an X52-PRO!(Thank god for warranty) I think its time to consider pedals.
epic stuff
Nyogel 767a probably would make these feel better. I have the TWCS throttle as well, which was unusable until I greased the rails with it....Will try it on the pedals as soon as they arrive.
Was the Nyogel 767a any good on the pedals?
@@frankmcelhill9379 Kind of...they're still hard to control & got caked with dirt & cat hair really fast.
Would this be something to buy if I want to build my own pedals? Just transfer the electronics?
To be fair I dont think these pedals feel 'tacky' at all. I agree they are not the most expensive pedals out there but for £67 I personally think they are solid. They dont feel cheap. If you are think of buying these I would absolutely say you wont be disappointed...a good solid buy for people who dont have loads of cash.
Dude - I had to subscribe... great review and a gas to watch. I want the phone number for your blow connection:).. Bloody good stuff.
What pedals are better, these ones or the logitech ones?
That RJ12 plug worries me. I think I only have one of those and that is for my net connection. Doesn't is have a USB connection?
The Yaw on takeoff power is due to the torque of the engine.
Yep. P factor.
Hi! I'm having a bit of trouble finding the perfect response curves for those rudder pedals. When I apply left or right rudder at full force, my aircraft makes a really wide turn to the point where it goes off the taxi way and into the grass. Any ideas? Thanks!
Use the toe brake as well as full rudder 👍
Had these for the couple of years. I find them are too close together and hard to make small smooth adjustments with them. Going to get the MFG Crosswind now :)
Exactly, i was wondering why they put the pedals so close together...?! -.-
hey man whats up thanks for the video, i actually just got these pedals but i am having a slight issue. the game and all is recognizing the pedals and all the settings are correct but when i go into flight the rudder pedals are not operating. inside the cockpit the pedals are not moving and also the outside of the aircraft the tail is not moving as well. i installed the driver as well.
Halfway up the cable is a rectangular plastic box. On one side is a very tiny switch that allows you to use these as rudder pedals or racing pedals (accelerator and brake). Check that you are on flight mode.
I just can't get used to it, I'm about to apply some lubricant to it's moving parts, wonder if anyone else has the same issue: they feel way too "sticky" for you to have precise controls with your muscles.
What happens is that I have to use an irregular amount of force on my feet for it to move, I keep pressing slightly harder and harder for it to finally move, so it's impossible to be precise because I either don't move it at all or apply too much force and move it too much, it's pretty hard to apply just enough force for it to just move slightly.
Nice Video
I have a problem: I got the T-Rudder but my Toe Brakes are not working. Do you know how to fix?
I know you seem race a ton as well. Do you use the same cockpit for both? Do you have to change out wheel and pedals every time you want to fly?
I normally flight sim.at my.desk 👍💪.
The lack of lubrication is incredibly frustrating. Especially when you're landing taildraggers!
Can youu use them for simracing?
You may have said this in the video, but does it connect via USB also? Or do you need another Thrustmaster joystick to connect it? As the only cord i could see was one looking like a ethernet plug :P
Cant imagine why thrustmaster havent used linear bearing. they cost 0,5$ per piece. These plastic slides are horibble.... Im going to make mod to this one, soon it will be awilable on thingiverse :)
Don’t buy these whatever you do, they are very sticky.
Thrustmaster calls them the “SMART” rail system but it is really quite dumb as to why there are no bearings.
Yes I’ve tried various greases and silicone lube but it makes little difference.
Mine are going in the bin as soon as I get a decent set of pedals with smoother actuation!
for some reason mine sticks a ton whenever I first move, and it has really jerky movement. It kind of smooths out if I use the inertia after it gets moving, but it's impossible to do precise movements. I don't know how to fix it and make it smooth again
Is there any way to keep it stable on carpet or is it pretty stable on carpet
12:30 that made me acc laugh 😂😂
is there a way to make it so left and right pedal work as 1 axis where right pedal is max value and left pedal is minimum value?
GM help! how wide are they I've just discovered my Saitek pedals do not fit in my sim rig!!!!
Rudder to keep the nose straight and opposite aileron banked into the wind on final approach is far more stable in small GA aircraft. Crabbing into the wind all the way down then straightening out before you land is an airliner move.
Alr soon im gonna buy the whole rig, TCA Captain pack and thrust master TFRP
This or the logitech g saitek pro flight rudder pedals?
Rudder pedals just now in operation in MS Flight Simulator 2020: The pedals are recognized unter "controls" and the display bar also shows the corresponding deflection. In the normal position , the bar display is in the middle (= ok).When used on an aircraft, the rudders always return to zero position despite full permanent left or right actuation (if you press "0" or "enter" on the keyboard, the rudders remain in their angled position). Can anyone help?
Problem solved: if you set "rudder axis" to "reverse axis", the assignments in "rudder left / right" are not automatically changed.
The correct setting is (make it manually!):
Reverse axis deactivated: rudder right = joystick L-axis Z-, rudder left = joystick L-axis Z +
Reverse axis activated: Rudder right = joystick L-axis Z +, rudder left = joystick L-axis Z-
Which is actually the correct setting that can be found in the real aircraft? Left before = right curve or vice versa?
Full deflection now works perfectly, but the rudder "flutters" when adjusted slightly, so precise control is not possible. Possibly Software problem, similar to the current error in the elevator trim Airbus ...
The problem with potentiometers is, they wear out after some time. If got the old CH pedals USB and I have to change the potentiometers every one or two years.
Picked these up for FS2020, if I stick with it i might eventually replace them with the honeycomb charlie pedals when they come out
Same, just had these and a Alpha Honeycomb arrive in the mail
Same here! Happy flying guys 🖖
could i use the joystick twist for yaw control ?
bro! i just use the g29 pedals with vjoy n ujr as rudder in DCS..
what program is that where u test yaw axis? mine peddals dosnt work pluged into airbus thottle quadrant.
Just ordered the tpr pedals, the t-flight pedals are just too sticky and stiff for helicopters. If you get the t-flight pedals, make sure you keep the metal rods clean and greasy
Do you have a US amazon affiliate link?
I have the T.16000M and the Yaw control completely broke on the inside, meaning I am basically forced to look at rudder pedals...
What rudder pedals do you recommend purchasing that’s good quality and under$200 range?
save up and get MFG cross winds
Do these work on fs2020 or nah, I’ve purchased them based off this review and I can’t get it to work properly on the rudder axis.
I've got the same problem. It can see them in the control options and it works fine in the Thrustmaster config app; just doesn't respond within the FS2020 play
Ok so I did get it to work... the problem is I don’t really know how or why it started working - so sorry I can’t give you great instructions. Installing the device driver and the calibrater didn’t seem to help. I was getting this issue where the rudder axis was weird where right rudder wasn’t registering. To reset what actually seemed to do it was the switch in the back by the usb plug in. Cycled that and it seemed to start working. Hopefully this does the trick for you
Is this compatible with the Airbus thurstmaster joystick and throttle for Xbox series s?
Can you turn the Hotas for rudder control?
Step on the ball!
What pedals are BEST for helicopter sim?
I can’t find the driver can you please add it
Why is this my 5th time watching this
Can these pedals be mounted to a rig?
does it have load cell ?
Noooooo
"You' re called Thrustmaster"
FUCKING DESTROYED
6:18 The BURN
ok i think i will get this and just mod them so i can simulate a gundam cockpit.... i mean i can get the vkb omni gladiator accessory for my hosas set up... plus modding this to metal plates and a better springs... it might actually be good enough... now i just need something like a massage-chair-like chair that is not too restrictive.... and i would be almost done with my gundam cockpit... i can imagine it... i will pilot a simulated gundam robot somehow....
I am considering replacing my 20 year old CH Pro pedals and I'm wondering if it's worth replacing it with this?
No just get nice ones 👍
GamerMuscleVideos Thanks for your quick reply and your honesty!
At the moment, I am MOST concerned about construction quality. I've owned the Cessna rudder pedals (two sets, over time) and one set of Saitek/Logitech Pro Flight rudder pedals. The Saitek set broke yesterday just like the two Cessna sets did previously and ALL for the same reason: one end of the springs that return the brakes to neutral is connected to the potentiometer assembly by a small, L-shaped plastic hook. Considering that the plastic hooks are ALWAYS under constant stress from spring tension even when the pedals are in neutral, it is absolutely INEVITABLE that the PLASTIC hooks ARE going to yield to the METAL springs and break off from fatigue eventually. Coincidentally, when the hook broke, it jarred the inner workings of the right pedal enough that it caused one of the terminal clips connected to the potentiometer to loosen just enough for the potentiometer to lose signal and send my airplane (I was taxiing at the time) into a tight right circle that I was unable to regain control of. Had the plastic piece been made of aluminum (costing only a few dollars/cents more at most), the problem NEVER would have occurred in ANY of the rudder pedal brands. Does anybody know of ANY rudder pedals that are designed and manufactured correctly? I don't mind paying for quality, but when I do, I want to GET quality. (And, yes, I'm a mechanical engineer.)
Mfg crosswinds are well made I believe but cost a fair bit more 👍
Can you suggest a website or purchase location? I'm having no luck with this for some reason. @@GamerMuscleVideos
Why you don’t use rudder when airborne. You should use simultaneously rudder and ailerons
3:13 Well ... or if you like to fly a realistic helicopter simulation (it's almost impossible on a stick without rudder pedals)
Maybe you should make another video using this pedals on a combat simulator (War Thunder or IL-2) because in that environment they are really useful if not essential. Also the pedals are too close together causing stress on your knees on the long run. The lack of tea drinking and the word "honest" on the title are unacceptable.
Is this compatible with both Xbox series x/s and PS4/PS5?