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Surprised you didn't highlight Funimation/CrunchyRoll's merger going on right now where people are losing their entire libraries of digital content due to licensing issues.
For some series (the popular ones) they are told they have to buy them again, and for the less popular, well now the buy is SOL.
This is complete and utter bullshit, hell it's a mix of all farm animals shit if you ask me... this should be illegal, period.
We need consumer rights and protection.
I do hope that you do a Video soon on the latest change RUclips has just implemented as an “improvement” as of 20 od minutes ago.
Always news in tech as it seems
@@Andrewflynn16 What happened now?
Ubisoft needs to feel comfortable with players NOT BUYING their games.
But they do.... Same with EA and Activi$ion......... They get away with it
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT
Boycott Ubisoft
Indeed
Agreed. I didn't get the assassin's creed games post odyssey
If buying games from Ubisoft isn't ownership, then pirating their games isn't stealing. Checkmate.
Right on the money 😂
I've been doing it for years with AC
Ubisoft must start being comfortable with not owning their games.
@@Adhgnis emulators like PCSX2 and PSP jailbreaking are the future of gaming
right? I PAID for it, I should own the copy
1 - do not give Ubisoft more money
2 - if you want play a Ubi game pirate it
3 - do not give Ubisoft more money
every time i hear a PC Gamer promoting pirating.
-1 respect
@@AtomicEy bootlicking a massive company who steals from its own customers? That's a paddlin'
@@AtomicEy you prefer giving an anti-consumer company your money?
@@AtomicEyhaving your respect is an insult 🍷🗿
@@AtomicEy seeing you who justifies stealing from paying costumers and promoting a legit outright scam is an absolute joke😂💀
"We understand pirating games may be disappointing for Ubisoft who enjoys our money, but it has become a necessity"
Good luck pirating always online games... If you play on non Nintendo 8/9th gen console you don't own any of your games. Sony/Microsoft can shutdown download server and even physical games need download to work. Sony did this even on 7th generation
Honestly for years I was strictly against pirating, now with over inflated retro prices and games permanently vanishing, I say pirating is fair play, besides if I buy a game on ebay, I'm not supporting the publisher or developers, I'm supporting some random guy somewhere in the world
@S4msungHD666 That's why you can mod games, and make your own server. Did you not watch the whole video?
@@markthompson1520 based on your comment you're clearly a console player. So not really :^)
Ubisoft: “We’re not stealing from customers if they never owned the game.”
If I paid for a product and someone takes it away... Isn't that theft? Ubisoft should pay all the players back. Make it a refund.
You paid for a service, namely access to a product. It's shady, it's manipulative, but it gets kinda tiring having to explain this every year and yet people continue being shocked when they realize you don't own the games you "buy" from Ubisoft, Steam or Epic. All of them mention black on white in their EULA that you buy access to a service, you are basically renting the games. If you want to own the game, buy it DRM-free like from GOG.
I guess Europe just don't have laws
@@DeviIInADress Even if you have physical disk, you can not even play the game (and future games from Ubisoft) due to always-online status, making physical rules useless
Not in the US. Because our justice system is bought and sold, and we decided that the absurd EULAs most companies make you sign to play shit are valid despite the total INSANITY of some of the clauses they love to shove in there.
@@DeviIInADress That souldn't be the case AT ALL. If the game need online to play, MAKE THE GAME OFFLINE before they pull out the server. Throw the library into other platform service such as steam, so that people can still access the game. Digital Game still need to be INSTALLED to the device, it's not a CLOUD game. IT's just a sorry excuse to stripping people already bought product.
Ross from Accursed Farms accurately stated: "The fact that you have to resort to illegal means to access the games you legally own is pure insanity".
Not only to _access,_ but to _preserve_ these games. Didn't Epic Games just wipe their _Unreal_ *games* collection (and references to their legacy collection) clean from their Web site? 🤔
I was just about to plug that in the comments. So true. I hope he collabs with Yong and Some Ordinary Gamers
@@CookyMonzta Yep! Unreal was my childhood, and it's still playable online to this day (if you can find a copy). But now you can't legally purchase it from any retailer. It's like they want absolutely nothing to do with any of the games. Imagine if Unreal was like games made nowadays, it would be gone forever. So I wouldn't be surprised they're absolutely not above destroying their own history.
@@CookyMonztaEA did it when they removed Battlefield 1942, Vietnam, 2, 2142 and Bad company 2 off of Origin. Unless these bastards can make a quick buck off them, EA would be more than happy to let their old games become lost media. 😤
@@cadjebushey6524 Well, I imagine it's only a matter of time before they themselves become lost media. Soon enough, one of those AAA companies will bite the dust.
Thanks a bunch for the mention! I can't say how this will turn out, but at the very least, I think at least half a dozen governments are going to be forced to examine the legality of killing games that have been sold one way or another, something I'm pretty sure the industry does not want. The more attention this gets, the better!
I wish you good luck with the case!
I'm cheering for you Ross!
Been a big fan since the Machinima days, I’m real happy you’re finally pushing this campaign off the ground! Fingers crossed something great comes outta all this!
Under Australian Consumer Law, this might actually be illegal. Improperly interfering with someone's use of a product or service is illegal. I'd love to see a test case.
In most cases companies just leave the country
case in point valve still refuses to sell us the steam deck here in australia because they’re salty about our consumer rights laws
@@danielaponte4054Steam ended up introducing refunds globally as a result of Australia
@@crimsonshadow1140Valve is about to lose several country’s worth of customers if they don’t change after this is over
Just a reminder to not buy the new Star Wars game, not buying Ubisoft is boycotting Ubisoft.
As a Star War fan I wasn't even going to buy it anyways
Jokes on you it's the 4th top pre order on the PS Store & it's going to sell with or without your boycott lol
@@dannyrivera8300 just shows how dumb people are
@@dannyrivera8300
I'm not going to believe it until I see the official numbers. Regardless I'm definitely not buying it.
@@onup1475 I mean its not that hard to find go to the PlayStation store and it tells you the top pre orders in the store I think it's two versions of sea of thieves than stellar Blade and then star wars outlaws is at #4
Blacklisted Ubisoft on steam, not worth the trouble.
You won't miss anything.
Only took this right? Not the sexual assaults and abuses
No one guves a fuck about that Shit. If Out cant defend Ouraelf aß a String Female nowadays than dont cry Afterwards. So why should WE Care at all?
Same.
Same, I don't want their cookie cutter slop showing up on my storefront 🤢
"People need to become comfortable living in pods, they have to understand that its for their own good that we gracefully stack them up like that so they can be close to their workplace that makes us rich." - Urban Development executive living in a gated mansion.
"People need to be comfortable eating the bugs, they have to understand that its for their own good that we "encourage" them to eat such highly nutritious and tasty food". - CEO of the corporation who now owns every grocery store who gets his filet mignons cooked by his personal chef every night"
"People need to be comfortable with us continuously overtaxing fuel, we do that so they look at better alternatives such as electric cars we can remotely shut down". - Automotive company CEO who flies on his Private Jet on a weekly basis
"Being "happy" of owning nothing" is just the first step. Hopefully people won't wake up too late.
Considering that history sure hasn't been kind towards people abusing the common folks to line their own pockets and grab more power, I'm sure it'll all work out. How bloody the solution will be is directly related to how far it goes.
i just reported ubisoft to consumer advice in the uk, labelling this move as a online scam
Hopefully across the pond they do something! Over here in the US the government could care less.
@@zarand2554 hope so too. i did write to them and got a email saying "we dont share our actions" :(
Why did everyone completely forget about hyperscape? Everyone that spent anything in that game got scammed.
@@ripandtear never heard of that game :(
I'm very comfortable not owning any Ubisoft games.
Last Ubisoft game I bought was probably far cry 3
I think the last one I bought was rainbow six vegas 2.
D.A.
The fact that we are even having this conversation is wild.
Dystopic reality reached us faster that we could realized it. Damn, hell
I remember warning gamers about this back in 2008. I was mocked and called poor. It's only going to get worse until we stop buying these games. Unfortunately. People have dehumanized themselves by transitioning from being customers, to being consumers, to vecoming thralls. To be honest I regard ubispft gamers the same as tesla or iphone owners.
Agree
@@igodreamer7096 And as we see even in this comment section, there are common people defending and even embracing this crap.
Lazy people keep buying from evil companies then are surprised
Companies these days clearly want us to pirate there stuff. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t make these stupid decisions.
This is so blatantly fraud it's sickening, but I can indeed say i'm very comfortable with never owning another Ubisoft game ever again.
The truth is, the crew is gone for both disc owners AND digital owners. Buying it as a disc doesn’t exempt you from losing a game if the company doesn’t want to support it anymore. This isn’t a digital media problem… this is an “always online” problem
Even when the company can't support it anymore, people should be free to make their own private servers. It happen every time an online game having EoS, and the Crew have offline stuff too.
Physical disks are sadly a lost cause. Many of them don't even have the full game on them anymore. They basically just have a glorified Downloader on the disk.
its both in this case, but its a damn well good example of how digital games are dangerous, this could happen with any digital game because that's how they work, the fact that physical owners cant play anymore is because of a pure online service, which yes, is yet another bad problem of this industry
@@vithor4340 *always online game
a digital game can be digitally preserved just like any old file.
an always online game only exists in the company's servers; they have a monopoly on those underlying files that make the game.
Yep I'm avoiding games that requires online play even on physical media. If the physical media box says "online optional", then can purchase at discretion.
We are BUYING games, not renting them. If they want to steal from players and call it "fair", then we can do the same in return.
Fair's fair, right Ubisoft?
Correction, you are buying *access* to an experience. Just like buying a license to an operating system, or a ticket to a concert, the nouveau game model sees games as a service, not a good. Like a theme park, you are buying an "unlimited access" pass, good for as long as that theme park is open.
If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
If you agree to a game's terms, it is fair to have them applied to you. If you consider those terms unfair, why agree to them?
@AfutureV have you seen Ubisofts terms of service stuff? It's like 5-10× longer than most others and the part that says "you're buying Yada Yada not own once taken down" bit is like 3 sentences long ..... out of 700 .... whats more ingregious is Ubisoft can let you bypass reading by going straight to "I accept" without reading it .... at least others you have to scroll down before that option is available
@@IcicleFerret Flawed analogy, because they aren't selling you an experience no matter how much they'd like to claim such, they are selling you a license to software.
Just because the server infrastructure goes down and they have decided to cease support for their product does not entitle them to remove your license which was bought and paid for legitimately, whether it be a video game launcher, a word processer, an accounting program, or WHATEVER ELSE it may function as, even if without a connection to a server the software is rendered functionally inoperable. This is important on more than just a pedantic level because of a concept known as 'Legal Precedent', if Ubisoft is allowed to do this, the entire concept of 'digital goods' dies with them, as a 'good' that can be revoked on a sellers whim is no 'good' at all.
With books in the US, When a book is out of print and unable to be bought it's legal to make your own copy because it doesn't disturb the market. Video games should be the same.
If locking people out of their digital purchases isn't theft, then so isn't piracy...
Ubisoft: “We’re not stealing from customers if they never owned the game.”
@@paule4566we’re not stealing from suppliers if the game doesn’t exist anymore
technically piracy isnt theft. There is a video on it i saw by people involved in law far smarter than me. Its classed as an illegal act but not theft
That’s literal robbery
How tf is this even legal?
Because most keep buying, defending or just turning a blind eye.
If these changes weren't profitable, they wouldn't keep pushing for anti-consumer decisions.
Because buried dozens of pages in the EULA you agreed to when you bought or installed the game, you don't own the game, you bought a revocable license to play it for an indeterminate amount of time.
Obviously this type of "purchase" should be illegal, and hell maybe is in some countries but it's going to take aggressive legislation to stop Ubisoft from doing this.
@@AdamKirbyMusicI feel like if this was actually pushed in a court case that these companies would lose. It’s just never happened. Especially when you buy a physical game or even digitally the EULA isn’t even brought up until you start the game up. So it’s not something that’s even mentioned until after you’ve purchased the product, which makes no sense. As someone that works in Supply Chain as a buyer there is absolutely no way there’s any real legal standing on an EULA when it’s not even accepted at the time of purchase.
@@kylexile87 I wouldn't be surprised if tons of software EULAs were legally unenforceable. But these giant corporations bank on individuals not wanting to spend the time and money to slug it out in court with a huge company.
@@AdamKirbyMusic I think a contract that boils down to "we can decide to steal back our product which we received payment for, for 'ANY' reason" is probably unenforceable.
The "server infrastructure" excuse doesn't hold up if they patch in an off-line mode, and the "licensing constraints" only prevent them from continuing to sell the game
Not to mention, as Ross says in his video, it's trivial for them to implement these fail-safes during development if they know it has to be there, as opposed to going in and patching it down the line.
It's always about THEM, never about the gamers. You know, the people who buy it their stuff
At least Polyphony Digital had the decency to patch GT Sport to make it playable offline before shutting the servers down.
No, license constraints would also force them to take the music in it out. It's completely dependent on the license that was signed.
Agree
The fact that there have been no lawsuits for false advertising (regarding content/quality of games and their ownership) is wild
Oh that’s easy, most people don’t have the kinda money or time you’d need for a drag out lawsuit that a megacorp like Ubisoft would most certainly drag out
Ubisoft is speedrunning to be the worst gaming company ever.
So, not only are they shutting down the servers of the game, making a dead weight, there are REMOVING the game from the player’s library, AFTER THEY BOUGHT IT!?
UBISOFT SHOULD GET COMFORTABLE TO BEING THE MOST HATED GAMING COMPANY…..
That is actual theft.
@@GeorgeMonetIt’s actually what all players agree to in the terms of service. They laid it all out, they can terminate your license and access to this game and it’s servers whenever they like, without warning.
That’s what everyone agrees to before they show that in-game store that used to be the main menu. Maybe just don’t play any of these games, and whether they’re “free” or not, don’t give them any money?
@@ravenger5672 Terms of service are not the end all be all of law. The company should have an end of life plan involving a update that makes the game ether offline, pear-to-pear connectivity, or give players the ability to host there own servers. The only reason this is an issue right now is because legislation is always decades behind the issue, hopefully with what Ross of accursed farms is doing will force legislation through, forbidding company from stealing a product that was rightfully sold with no warning outside a terms of service, that the game is gonna shut down at a random date.
@@Arctic_Wolf1 Yes, I’ve been following Accursed Farms for years and totally agree with what Ross is fighting for. I pray some legislation can be drawn up to defend consumers from these predatory practices.
Though this is plainly wrong. The terms of service agreement IS legally binding, and for all intents and purposes it is the end all be all of law. Unless some legislation is written making these terms of service agreements illegitimate, they are and will continue to be legally binding.
It’s signing a contract written up by their legal team.
EA was comfortable being the most hated for a long time. Sure didn't stop them from being slimy for years straight.
They need to be sued. Or countries in the EU need to step up and force these kind of shitty companies to keep up the servers.
If buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't theft.
It's insane how we need EU to do most of the heavy lifting regarding antitrust.
The EU coming down on this crap is the best hope we have for this to not happen again. The backlash won't be enough.
@@kyaksachan502 Thing is, pretty sure this is actually illegal in the US under false advertising laws. We have discussed what the term "milk" means but we somehow think the word "buy" or "purchase" means "renting?" Nope! Unfortunately, I think it requires a government official to charge them with a crime for misleading the public to get that into a courtroom.
EU AU NA they all need to step up band together about this shit
I hope governments get involved, I hope game companies win, and then I hope this will finally make people read the terms they agree to. I am pro consumer, but I also think there should be the bare minimum standard that a consumer should do their due diligence.
Games have been explicitly sold as revocable licenses for a long time, especially live services. Game companies mislead nobody when they explicitly told them the terms and the customers accepted.
And this is why I rarely buy anything digital, and flat out refused to buy any game that always requires an Internet connection to play.
I'm honestly happy those corporate maggots show their true colors. There are so many indie and AA developers who deserve the spotlight and support, that is being siphoned by the corrupted entities like Ubisoft.
As someone who bought the Ultimate Edition of The Crew, it is absolutely disgusting not only that my game doesn't work offline despite all of the content of the game being on the disc, but the fact that it gets removed from my own library.
Go to stop killing games, the website. You might be able to help with the case and petitions they are building against Ubisoft for this very event, organized by the channel Accursed Farms
Bro I was driving on the crew 1 everyday smoking to Spotify and driving through traffic from Miami to anywhere west taking highway... Sad bro saddd
Look at Accursed Farms and follow his instructions on the page shown in the middle of the video
devil's advocate here, you really bought a Ubisoft game, and a Deluxe/Ultimate Edition at that.
@@angel_of_rust To be fair, Ubisoft 10 years ago wasn't as bad as they are now.
"You will own nothing and be happy for it" That phrase is starting to be shoved down our throats more and more as time goes on
I like the sound of “If buying isn’t owning, piracy isn’t stealing” much better tbh
Yet. No one is doing anything at all about it. It's almost as if you idiots complaining on RUclips isn't doing anything. GASP omg omg
The same people are trying to ban backyard gardens too, in the name of climate change.
@@reloadedspade176 Not particularly. The latter is focused around a niche thing -- namely media, while the former is becoming absolute and ubiquitous.
By Yong. This is not new info to the rest of us.
If buying isn't owning, Piracy isn't Stealing.
s/buying/paying/
Remember, if you pay and get ownership, you bought it. If you don't, you just paid for it.
I' stopped buying Ubisoft games years ago, this company is the worst. So many companies these days are completely ruined by their greedy top management that don't give a shart about their client base.
Accursed Farms is leading global legal action against ubisoft for this btw
That's probably why they took away the licenses, because Ubusoft doesn't want the players to use their copies as proof of purchase to be used against them in the suit
@@CommanderShepard341 They can't delete your email receipt if you still have it
@@CommanderShepard341 ...and yet, that pretty much shows a smoking gun tier evidence that could be used against them, since it outright proves that they've revoked access to the game you bought.
You can almost imagine the French government smelling blood in the water right now...
At this point, UbiSoft, among other companies, are just *asking* to be boycotted.
It's a shame gamers aren't capable of granting that wish.
Hahaha. NONE of these companies will ever be boycotted.
@@Moon_Presencethey will, but not intentionally.
Ubisoft is losing market share and sales naturally just by people losing interest
That's the simple solution, just stop buying Ubisoft games; a shame there's tons of stupid people who keep giving them money.
Even better… Bankrupted, bought out, have their IPs sold off
Ubisoft can't go a month without messing something up.
Even their logo looks like a turd.
This is EXACTLY why they're getting rid of disc based games. I've had a purchased game taken from me that I bought off the Sony Playstation marketplace. Fortunately it only cost me $10. I learned the hard way to NEVER buy downloaded games. And this was FIVE years ago....
Honestly people need to sue, screw the TOS, we have laws that should be preventing this.
Let’s be honest here, what would you expect the government to do? They took forever to even address the loot box backlash. I’m not opposed to legislation but with TOS and EULA of the video games themselves and and platform holders it’s really hard to see them even trying to make laws about that
We also had laws which kept migrants/invaders from entering in the country illegally but you know...
You cant sue lol. Read that fine print you scroll through when you buy these games. It clearly states this......
@@Slim-Boss ToS's and EULAs are not legally binding. If they steal access to your games away from you, that is still theft, regardless of whether a document said so or not.
@@Slim-Boss most terms of service is usually bs anyway and the reason they persist is because the corporations bury pertinent information under a bunch of pointless legalese, and because they know how prohibitively expensive it would be to attempt litigation.
And rember, you can still set Steam to block showing you content in the store for most big scumbag publishers of your choice.
Ubisoft has been blocked on my account for over a decade now. Glad to see I was right in doing so!
Steam is just as bad as Ubisoft. You don't own games from Steam and Steam uses a DRM wrapper.
@@sophieedel6324yeah but atleast steam doesn't revoke your license for no reason, unlike Ubisoft. And also steam is one of the most consumer friendly company out there
@@abhi.dx2345 Steam (Valve) had to be dragged before a courtroom in Australia before they were willing to offer game refunds. Steam is not consumer friendly at all.
@@abhi.dx2345 Valve had to be dragged in front of a courtroom and had to be forced by a court decision before they were willing to offer refunds. Steam is not a consumer friendly platform at all, in fact it's full of DRM taking away game ownership.
@@abhi.dx2345 Steam had to be dragged before an Australian court before they offered refunds.
I was telling people this the second they started selling games online. They straight told us that we don’t own the game and they could take it away at any moment. And look what’s happening..
I remember when you first posted the video about this and I thought would be crazy if something like this ever happened and here we are today! Glad your speaking out about this Bullshit man!
This is truly the beginning of the "You'll own nothing and be happy" movement
Yeah they can fuck right off
You never owned a single game you ever bought, you only ever owned a liscense to play it.
@@BananaMana69 Bro I've got discs and cartridges I bought 15 years ago I can still pop in and play any time I want. Whatever the EULA might say, that IS full ownership for all intents and purposes. Same with games I've downloaded off GoG. Piss off with this propaganda.
@@diodamke1007 Propaganda? Truth is never propaganda dude, my opinion is not stated whatsoever in the initial comment. I am actually for the practice of seeling games to be changed so that consumers actually DO own a copy of the games they buy. The only way that could ever happen is if more people are aware that you purchase licenses you dont actually buy copies of games and so thats why i made the comment.
If every gamer knew they had never actually bought a copy of games they thought they did and their thousands of dollars spent on liscense could be wasted as the liscense could be legally revoked at any time i think it just might change.
@@BananaMana69 Fair enough, my point was just that it never really mattered whether you technically bought a game or just a license in the past.
When you're sold a disc or cartridge that will just work when you put it in the system, that doesn't need to connect to any kind of server to authenticate and that you can freely re-sell to others, then in real-world terms you fully own that game whatever the law might say.
So to say you've never owned your games can sound like revisionism, the kind of thing someone might say to try to convince you nothing's changed or gotten worse, when it clearly has. I get that's not your intent, but yeah.
Prince of Persia Lost Crown was gonna be the 1st Ubisoft game i've bought in over a decade, then that corpo brass said consumers needs to get used to not owning our games... well... that kept my "no Ubisoft games" streak going.
Just pirate. If purchasing doesn’t equal ownership, piracy doesn’t equal theft
@@alexanderli8820 based
I have about 6000 hours in the crew. Send them taking my game that I paid for is unacceptable. I have already filed a complaint with the BBB and I urge everyone to do the same. It’s the only way that we will ever keep our content that we pay for.
This is the exact same problem with Microsoft Games for Windows Live back in the days. They've shutdown and many people lose all their games in their library. This is history repeating itself. After all these years and no one have come up with any laws to prevent such happening. The gaming industry had grown significantly these days, this will become a very big deal if some company decided to shutdown causing many people losing all their access. This is the reason why some people don't buying games with DRM or any games needed online services anymore, another reason some people still holding grudge against Microsoft games all these years, it doesn't go away.
If buying does equate to owning, then piracy does not equate to stealing. I want physical copies of everything and I require all my stuff to work offline at all times. Skip on ANY part of that and it's an immediate deal breaker.
There's more than enough old games on physical media to entertain me for several lifetimes. Live service games are a total scam and should always be avoided like the plague
You mean "if PAYING does not equate to owning". Buying is when paying gets you ownership.
It's like that old quote "Buying is not owning, so pirately isn't stealing." I think that's how it goes. Ubisoft should be ashamed and should have just left the game online and left that stability and server responsibilities to its Crew Community. The future of gaming is going through a very dark time and one day these game publishers are gonna learn the hard way.
"Paying", not "buying". Buying gets you ownership, payment may or may not.
Ubisoft needs to be held accountable WTF
They never sold you any property, Ubisoft and Steam are very clear that they sell access to games as a service, and that they can revoke this access at any point.
@@sophieedel6324 so it becomes okay? I think this sets a very bad example, other companies are very predatory and they like to see how much they can push the envelope on gamers and how far they can go without backlash, i think the backlash by these same gamers is completely justified
Why defend them?@@sophieedel6324
Next time read the EULA before you click agree . It states they can remove the game any time they want . So technically it the buyer fault for not being informed but again a scum bag move from bigger cooperations to make long paragraphs of statements knowing 99% of buyers would never read .
@@partyboy1076 why doesn't the EULA pop up in an understandable format when you hit the buy button then? Pretty sure if someone actually sued game companies over this they'd win in the EU, because EULAs are often so complex you need a lawyer to understand which makes them null and void in the EU.
It’s one thing to shut down servers for an online only game; they’re costly, very few people are playing, it’s no longer financially feasible to keep them running - that makes sense. But if there’s an offline mode, you should be able to continue playing it, and you definitely shouldn’t have your games stolen from you..
Either force developers create an offline mode that can run forever after servers shut down, or make the game ‘abandonware’ and let players do what they want with the game.
So long as there are people ready to throw money at greedy, corrupt & moraly inadequate 3A game companies this type of practices will be shoved down players throats. Paid DLC, Cosmetics, Battle passes, Loot boxes, Live service, patches for day one broken games etc were slowly introduced and the game companies saw very little backlash in sales. They will continue birthing asinine practices so long as we dont speak with one voice and that is a total boycott of ubisoft games. Next they will start charging for video game trailers.
It's a good thing you are giving a shout out to the Bossman Ross Scott, he is the true crusader of the fight of keeping our products and how we should be given back either our product or our money.
So true
At the same time RUclips is hard advertising a new Ubisoft game. I'm not buying, I'm not paying.
Targeted ads, ever heard of them?
@@_Cetarial Yeah, they do not work
@Korricat Ahh I remeber so soo many years ago whenever adds popped up in school topics and we worked on em I always argued they never worked on me and I think it's dumb and weird anyways teachers would always say nu uh they work on you, you don't even know, I'm glad my mom made sure I wasn't a consumer goon lord haha
I am desperate for this to get litigated as theft and for them to be held criminally liable
Remember if buying isn't owning, then piracy isnt stealing
2:50 And one day, they'll steal The Crew 2 and The Crew Motorfest from their customers. This won't end until they face either a severe boycott or a law that prevents this kind of thing.
And gamers will act surprised again lmao
Accursed Farms is doing taht litigation right now, but they need ownerw of The Crew for their petitions. Go to their channel if you can.
If you play on non Nintendo 8th gen console you don't own any of your games. Sony/Microsoft can shutdown download server and even physical games need download to work. Sony did this even on 7th generation
@@S4msungHD666 I got it, no need to copypaste 5 times. I wrote my comments manually
People HAVE TO take legal action against them.
You literally PAID for a product and they taking it away.
That has to be illegal
It's literally THIEVERY.
The channel Accursed Farms are doing that right now. They need help of any owners of The Crew. If you own it, go to the channel and watch the video instructing you in how to help
No it's NOT illegal.
No it's NOT thievery.
You (the customer) didn't read the terms of service.
You are mostly to blame as you chose this digital future for the sake of "convenience".
Illegal? 😂 Someone didn't read the license agreement. You don't own shit anymore.
@@Talon97 You know that there are rights you cannot be made to give up in a contract, right? And even if that wasn't the case, it can be _made_ illegal, with govt petitions and such
whats the problem? The Crew is an Online game, so Ubisoft are fully right to pull/revoke the license from players who bought (Actually Renting it). That's the consequence of all of Paid Online Only games
Imagine you bought a couch and you had it for for years, then that same store broke in to your house and took “their” couch back. I don’t know about you, but I’d be furious.
If Ubisoft is not interested in preserving game history or letting me own a purchase, then I am not interested in giving them any money.
The Pirates are already cracking it as we watch this video. It will be available for download and installation shortly.
Ubisoft has no shame.
Your car dealership called, and they want your car back. You don't own it even though you paid cash up front. They retain the title and were only letting you use the car. Please return the car to the dealership or your license will be revoked. LAST WARNING!
I feel like this is genuinely just stealing from people who bought this game. This is super scummy and Ubisoft should be held accountable.
Wonder how they'd feel if their car dealer/manufacturer took away their expensive ride and said "You need to get comfortable not owning your car."
10 years down the line, that may be true for EV cars
Doesn't Ferrari basically do this already? Wonder if any of them own a Ferrari.
@S386LWBNM I hear that some tractor companies in the US do this too, you can't buy them outright. Dystopian as fuck...
@@deryckbrown7834 John Deer is who you're thinking of.
@@S386LWBNM That's the one! Thank you.
The Age of Piracy has returned, lads.
WE MUST SAIL LIKE IT'S 1650 AGAIN 🏴☠
Spend your time and money on games made by people who respect you instead.
@@NuchiAsakiyes, and I'm finna pirate every AC game under the sun 😭
@@dibel3669 That is the opposite of what I suggested.
@@NuchiAsaki how so? I'm buying games I like and not supporting bad companies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@@dibel3669 You're spending your time on games made by people that don't respect you instead of those that do.
Ubisoft noticed they were no long called the worst video game company and decided to take back that title.
physical requiring an online connection once can have legitimate uses and also be done in a good manner, like with Witcher 3 where only copies made before release need a launch patch in order to stop leakers, however, this file can be downloaded and stored and applied manually
EA: "I'm the most hated gaming company."
Ubisoft: "Gamers shouldn't feel comfortable owning their games."
EA: "You're clearly the more terrible company."
EA also believes this though
It all goes back to what Gabe said when Valve started Steam. It's a service issue. People are comfortable with buying these 'licenses' to games on Steam because the majority trusts the service to have their back. Ubishit, on the other hand, is proving time and again that they WON'T have the players' back and best interests on THEIR OWN PLATFORM, REGARDING THEIR OWN GAMES.
So yeah, at the end of the day, people will just continue to lose faith and, subsequently, interest in Ubishit's service and products. They want to treat it like it's just business, the market will follow-through in kind. Really bad timing for them too considering they're going all in with multiple AC games, that AC Nexus platform, their new Star Wars game etc.
Gonna be fun seeing Ubi sink hard.
Bungie does same thing with Destiny 2
It's worse than Nintendo not preserving old games, and shutting down anyone who streams or uploads old games powered by emulators.
I wish games journalists did more. Rather than cover Ubisofts latest releases, refuse to and republish the fact that they stole the crew licence from users.
Or at the very least have massive disclaimers at the start of anything stating that this is a Ubisoft product... They are known for stealing your licences and refuse to tackle all the sexual crimes and allegations that their company is rife with. Buy this product at your own risk.
"If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing."
How to incentivize people to pirate your games 101 with Ubisoft....
Not really; they’ve engineered their games to require dialling home to the mothership… so acquiring the installer illegally won’t help you.
@@happyspaceinvader508
And are they even worth pirating?
@@happyspaceinvader508 Not like thats stopped anyone before. they always find a way
Let's put these executives on a subscription service for access to their own houses. Realistically I'm fairly certain they got us in those long ass licensing agreements that they make us scroll and sign before we can play the game we BOUGHT!
They did this exactly the same thing to (driver San Francisco) back in 2014 I think the game came out, but it was only out for a very short time before Ubisoft is the exactly the same thing that they’re doing to the crew. This makes me even more mad because they made me mad the first time while they’re making me more mad to the point that I want to see them but I don’t have 80 grand to get a lawyer that may not be useful
never touch the Ubisoft ever again
If Ubisoft can steal your games, then I think stealing their games is alright.
Don't blindly believe what Yong is telling you here. You didn't buy the game, you bought a license. Ubisoft did nothing wrong. Piracy is a crime.
@@2bitnerd its not OK to just yank a game from players who paid for it.
cl0wn@@2bitnerd
@@2bitnerdyea let's defend this rich corporation....
@@2bitnerd This mindset is why we can't have nice things in this world, you're saying that if you bought something a corporation has a right to take away something from you? Think about what kind of presedent that sets in the long run
This is why an "All digital future" is a ridiculous idea.
Companies: "You wouldn't steal a car!"
Also Companies: "Hey, we no longer make that vehicle model so we'll be seizing your car."
You'd think an American company would try this shit first, but no. Despite the EU having more consumer protections, it's a French company that's pioneering most of this crap
Ubisoft will still try it because they profit from so many IPs. You wouldn’t see this from an indie dev where every sale matters. No matter what they say someone will always buy AC, Far Cry, etc.
What are you even talking about "pioneering". Tons of developers have revoked access to games in the in the past. This isn't the first developer to do this, not by a long shot.
@@devbyrd6127I have never bought any if those games. So thats not true
@@RusticRonnie Then you are not one of the millions of other "someones" who did. Doesn't mean the statement isn't true as a whole. :P
Ever wonder why all those meme statements have a FRENCH accent?
They wont stop until their profits reach 0 or even in thr negatives. We need everyone, and I mean EVERYONE including the most casual gamers and the clueless to completely stop buying their games for them to stop. Which is straight up impossible.
Governments need to be made to take action. Show this video and related videos to whoever your local politicians are.
@@comradeinternet467You'd be better off sending Ross's video and the campaign website to as many people as you can.
Things will have to get much worse until there will be actual change, eventually it will get a point where people hit a breaking point, but until that happens remember to vote with your wallet as much as you can
@@comradeinternet467 Accursed farms is doing that. Help them
Their Share price has been tumbling since dizzy peaks of 80 Euro now down in the 20 Euro now, Ubisoft used to produce excellent games back in the Amiga / Atari days before many say getting too big for their boots
They just keep proving why pirating is the best option after already buying the game
I've been following Ross Scott's coverage of this glad you got it to
Also, Letting you own what is now an unplayable waste of digital space?
Ubisoft finally got their NFTs up and running 🙄
"It's in the game licenses?!"
"Always have been! *click*"
Since when did the tos and agreements ever held up in a court of law, more so then not?@@GrumpyDerg
Anyways if players actually read the tos and agreements pages they would not even click agree.
@@Nope-move-along I don't have the statistics to answer that, but something tells me if those agreements wouldn't hold up in court most of the time, companies wouldn't spend the exorbitant fees of their legal teams to craft (and re-craft) those agreements almost every damn month and just leave them as is with a carefully positioned "You accept that this is a private company and you have no power here" on page 27 to defend themselves with. :P
And yes, even the length of those agreements alone would turn one away from clicking Agree. That's why they are brought up at the worst possible time (for the "consumer") rather than, say, at the time of purchase... :\
subscription based gaming shouldn’t ever be the norm, I don’t wanna have to keep up with 10 different subscriptions just to play my games. We already have subscription fatigue from all these streaming services just to watch movies/tv shows. We don’t need another 50 more “game” streaming services popping up
Stop paying, start creating.
I recently bought back my N64 and the games I enjoyed. Good thing if this is how the world of gaming is going to progress. I'll have fun playing games I enjoyed all time and they can't take it away from me since it's not online
@snackler6102 still have my 360 and gamecube. Facebook market will have some for a good price
I really appreciate you being our voice
I'm type a guy
Who loves single player games collectables
And I love to collect games just like every gamer out there
Since their business practices
It's hard to do what we love to do
We payed for our game it's our priority
They never ever
Told us that one day they'll shut it down
Ubisoft should start to feel comfortable with the idea, that nobody will buy their crap anymore. Actually, I'm starting to move away from gaming altogther. I'm almost 41 years old. I'm playing video games for about 35 years. This is not acceptable for me. But they make it easier for me by being assholes and creating shitty gaming experiences.
I don't want that.
I don't need that.
I don't spent my hard earned money on that.
I stick with the older games. Around 2015 is where games started to shift drastically. I've got a big enough library of nostagia to keep my interest piqued for a long time.
majority of my Steam library are offline games, the ones I worry about are my CA (total war) titles and 2ks XCOM 2.
I'm 47
I'm right there with ya
Sold all my consoles and pc's
Bought a boat
@@les121476fishing is just lootboxs though
i like telling people in this position about Magic DosBox - you can emulate MS DOS games on Android and find hundreds of titles as free abandonware. Tons of hidden gems.
and if your phone/computer can download a 50 megabyte ROM, it's more than powerful enough to run it :)
Going forward I will pirate Ubisoft games seeing as things I buy from them are simply stolen from me in return.
My first thought on hearing what they are doing is to start a class action lawsuit it’s not impossible to put even the biggest games on a physical drive and sell it in that form it’s just cheaper for the company not to
Ubisoft needs to go bankrupt
Companies like Ubisoft want every game to be like Fifa where they sell you the same game every year and make the old one obsolete. Those companies want an infinite money glitch and start to cry when they don't get it ... I say let them cry
This is what you get in an Investor Economy. Where the entire thing exists so that the people who make investing their full time job can make more and more money every 3 months. :(
Infinity Money Glitch is what our entire economy runs on right now. :(
@@AegixDrakan I swear that’s the heart of it all. The worst part of the system is, is that these investors don’t even know how shitty they are, because they only see the dollar sign.
This is really nothing new. Adobe has been doing this since 2014. Any legit retail license key (often sold for $300-$500) that has not been activated has been revoked. In fact, if you are holding the actual retail software in your physical hands (like actually holding one of their license key boxes) Adobe support will tell you with a straight face that that purchase is considered "Counterfeit" and should be destroyed. And support encourages you to snitch and tell them what retailer sold the item to you to, I presume send their FLEET of lawyers onto the retailer for selling "fake" licenses. Licenses which worked mere months prior to them deciding its no longer legal to use. And yet we still think we own what we buy.
And now afinty was purchased by Canva so we are literally fucked when it comes to good photo editing software… and no GIMP sucks
How does that work? If you have the boxed version, when you install it, does it "check in" with the Adobe website? If that's the case, that is just awful!
@melodyseverything6999 yes it does.
"You can always pirate Adobe products"
"It's morally correct" -whoever created that sage meme
Adobe is so goofy because they're so obviously insanely terrible and scummy, yet For some reason noone is ever moving away from their shitty products.
Why do i need to submit my Job application as a PDF For christ's Sake?!
Ubisoft is the new Blizzard. They shoot themself in the foot and then, blame the players.
Great watch as always and this is once again another reason why physical media need not die. But people online always get mad at us for not wanting an all digital library future
Yeah Asmongold was totally correct about the only reason people complain about always online games is because they are boomer dinosaurs. It definitely has nothing to do with games literally being ripped out of your library because they decided to shut down the servers. Yep I’m just a boomer dinosaur.
Don't take the hoarder millionaire seriously. He can't even clean up after himself
@@Planag7 Who cares? I couldn't give a shit if he cleans up after himself when I listen to his opinions on stuff since that doesn't make them any more or less valid. Just a pointless ad hominem.
Asmon has the same vibe as those people who will make a point without really thinking about it or probably even believing in it, purely to have a point to make. Either he parrots the same opinions as everyone else or his take is so wild it borders insanity
The opinion of a millionaire so dirty and mentally ill he has cockroaches crawling on him doesn’t have much merit. I swear that guy has a family member working at YT with how much his channel is shoved down my throat.
@@123Suffering456clean your room please
Ubisoft has an absolute skill with bad optics.
Is it possible to look worse than reassuring people against something they fear you might do, then immediately doing it anyway in full view of everyone?
French are mostly communists...so, checks out.
there needs to be a big fat yellow sticker on the covers of games like the surgeon general's warning stating that they can revoke your ability to play the game at any time and without warning. Wonder if that'd change their tune
Stop buying AAA games, then they will take notice
Class action lawsuit would be more effective and realistic
Do you really expect me to not buy gta 6?
I'm glad that i never ever bought a Ubisoft game, due to the requirement of having a third party launcher itself to run these games
Screw Ubisoft.
I was a grate policeman in that game. Enforcing the low, screwing outlow players missions was my favorite feature.😁