that line made me laugh the writer of that blog was so full of shit that he didnt knew that the whole galaxy was rife with rebellions , genestealers cult , sadistic thirsty gods
"To them, The Emperor embodies "real" American ideals." My personal favorite. GW was founded by british guys in the 80´s right? We all remember them as loving the real American ideals
Yeah, their HQ is now in Nottingham, like the other side of the road from the University (Uon not Trent.) On campus, if people know at all, they love it.
Emperor of Mankind: "For the betterment of every living man, the Truth and ever standing peace in unity, across the stars..." Media: Evil fascist dictator! He's a monster!
@@TheSimpleMan454 He definitely had his flaws and caused a whole lot of harm through his inability to relate with or seemingly empathize with others people, but the Emperor was definitely well-intentioned and truly loved the potential he saw within humanity. He definitely did a lot of horrible things and wanted unquestioning obedience from everyone else though. He had noble goals, but was not himself a very good person.
Yeah shit like this make me fear for Warhammer (in general) that it might cave to theses rainbow haired freaks because the original audience (us/old guard) will me the minority.
Let's hope that topbrass in GW HQ knows that and won't try to reach "wider audience" no matter costs, as that will be war of attrition which they will loose as current fans aren't as numerous as Imperial Guard ;)
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 The iold guard are the minority? I doubt it. I can't think of a single franchise that went "woke" and came out of it more popular than it went in with. People follow trends, not politics, especially in their media. I daresay a company that says "This is the universe, this is what it is, and we're not changing it to something proven to be unpopular" would draw a MUCH larger crowd.
Survival Instinct, it is literally nature. There are animals who cannibalize or commit suicide so that their colony can survive. And humans have done some serious shit in history just to survive
@@Talshere88 well, stabilization of the number of the human populus will become necessary, otherwise humanity will go extinct by it's own mass, as planet earth is incapable of supporting too many of us. What is up for debate is HOW we achieve this (best case through: technological progress)
Only took AoS, what, nearly a decade for its lore to just start sounding believable and not "bear with us, we're making shit up as we go" like it did for most of the 2010s?
I love how much people defend AoS, it cracks me up when I hear people claim it's popular & making money. No, games workshop is making more off video game licensing than all of their table-top models.
Mr. Cuddlesworth It’s not impossible, but I doubt it. Remember, GW only cares about profit. If they think it’ll increase sales, they’ll do it. I doubt it though.
If their mentality was any further advanced than a child's then the fact that there is no clear "good" and "bad" wouldn't be considered a problem, fact is that these people are too stunted mentally to cope with the barely complex ideas of 40k.
Like always the over glorified bloggers can't understand the concept of critical thinking or the idea of seeing different points of view without immediately accepting them
@Joe Bennett You underestimate them. They are the same people who get upset when goblins are portrayed as murderers and kidnappers. They object to everything that is inconvenient to their narrative. Violent orkz shouldn't exist, because you are not allowed to have this justification of your bigotry towards humanoids with green skin. That's how they think. So these imaginary Orks, and Chaos are inconvenient to their narrative. They want them gone. They wouldn't be able to think in these social engineering ways if they were as unintelligent as you suggested.
Yeah whoever wrote that crap was a hack. Almost like he's scared of warhammer's growing popularity. Deal with it. Can't be stopped. The people are ready.
@@TikkiEXX They are not hacks, they are highly educated in thought manipulation. Orks in this story shouldn't exist, because they make you think of self defense and self preservation, and I don't want you to think of self preservation. Tyranids in this story shouldn't exist, because they make you think of self defense and self preservation, and I don't want you to think of self preservation. XX in this story shouldn't exist, because I don't want you to think YY, it may even lead you to purchase weapon ZZ. And we definitely don't want you to have that.
40k is one of the most fair places to be in everything gets treated equally. Everything has the same rights To die for the emperor is the greatest duty of all!
@@trenchantarchbishop5759 the difference between making a game as a small company in the 90s and making a game as a large corporation in the 2010s. I wish video gaming would have stayed niche so we wouldn't have all these lame watered down properties striving to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
@@trenchantarchbishop5759 Well, Wings of Liberty is a prety than good campaing, but, Heart of the Swarm an Legacy of the void realr fucked the entire history of the game
I need to see that you've read at least 10 40k novels, the first 3 Horus heresy novels, and played the original Dawn of war game for me to take you seriously........
"The God-Emperor embodies American values". I said "WHAT" at the same time you did. LOL This was obviously written by someone who barely understands the setting.
That's not going to stop them. They've largely run out of other things to converge, and now they're coming for the niche interests. No refuge from wokeness is allowed sh!tlord.
Just dont buy the crap that is supposed to apeal to the SJW and dont be bullied out of the actual lore by them. Simple as that. And the hipsters dont buy the stuff thats supposed to apeal to them either, so it will be over before it even started.
Brett Hazelton sadly a lot of them have inherited money. That has been the problem the past 5+ years, they got all this money from an estate and now blow it all on certain markets and drive up the cost. Hopefully you are right and they won’t want to spend money lol, maybe they will Go Fund Me asking for money for an army!
A 40k anime! I've been thinking about that for a while. "especially if it embraces it's in-saiyen roots" That's what it sounded like Arch though I couldn't tell if it was intentional...
Funnily enough, as someone who doesn’t like trump, I actually though the ‘god emperor trump’ meme was making fun of him. Pointing out that it seems like he thinks the president is all powerful. Until the left brought it up it didn’t even occur to me that that comparison could ever be considered favorable.
Example, any marvel schlockbuster. Devoid of character and flavor instead preffering plastic and sterile done to death by the book sequel after sequel.
As Star Wars, Ghostbusters, and Terminator have proven... keep anything you love away from normies and Orange Man Bad folks; or prepare to go underground.
@@Inquisitor_Vex I was not sure what you are getting at with your post. Are you an English professor, or just a 40k fan boy without any valid comments to ad or counter my claim? 😝😝😝
The only way I would ever see a Warhammer cartoon alongside Rick and Morty or Venture Bros. Would be one about Ciaphas Cain. That would be the dark humored lineup that we all need
A very interesting read, and a great video! "Mainstream is not ready for 40K", or "40K is not ready for mainstream"? I think a lot of people are ready for 40K, and I think 40K is ready for those people. It's just that those who decide what is supposed to be "mainstream" are not representatives of the larger population, and they seem to believe that if something won't sell to everyone, it's not worth the money to make. Which is why we keep getting the same cliches in every one of those so called blockbusters, instead of something a little more unique. But we do have something like well selling horror movies, for example, and 40K would make for a very interesting scene for that. Which makes me wonder why it hasn't been done already. One thing to clear up though: "The imperium of man is not fascist, nor a dictatorship." Well, that's true only in a sense. The imperium of man is WAY beyond what we would define as such by our own standards. In 40K, humanity is beset on all sides by enemies who would seek to destroy us. There is no time for democracy, just like you say, and every aspect of human life is ruled over through a very strict hierarchy from our very births. The God Emperor only rules by name, and all interpretations of his will are just a means for the high lords of Terra to completely dominate their subjects. Much like many religious cults and powerful leaders have done in the past, and are still doing in our own time. It's pretty much as fascist as things can get. Does all this mean that 40K glorifies fascism and dictatorship? No, it's just a part of what makes the whole 40K universe such a horrifying place to live in! It's described as an absolute nightmare, and would serve as an excellent reminder as to why we should never strive for such a government. Putting Trump's face on a picture of the emperor, or anything else in the 40K universe, is not a compliment. To either of the sides.
But who are the good guys they ask? "we don't do that here". The orks "technology" still cracks me up. It works because they believe it does and red goes faster
Don't forget the God-Emperor of Dune. For a while there were also people who referring to that when they called Trump the "God-Emperor". In Dune Leto II becomes an omniscient ruler (well almost) by the fourth book, who is definitely playing 4-D chess.
Funny you should say woke, because the tyranids are the most wokest race in the 40k. They don't care about race, creed, sexual performance ect, they will happily welcome anyone into their stomachs.
@@tssteelx actually the tyranid are the opposite of woke. woke people ONLY view the world through race, sexual preference, and gender. I know they claim to want "representation", but you have to understand that woke culture uses the most opaque version of Orwell's doublespeak in history. Representation=stereotyping, inclusivity=segregation, safe spaces=attack platforms, oppression=individual freedoms, ect.
Templar Knight lets see... Imperium: Authoritarian oligarchy, yet pre Horus Heresy was a serious threat to chaos. Also honestly the best bet for any sense of order in the galaxy at the cost of average people are expendable as a toothpick. Eldar: Aldaari have high amount of psychers but Slaanesh has it out for them and are dependent on some stones to keep them from meeting her. Drukaari cause so much suffering they mask their presence but don’t use psychers and same Slaanesh situation as aldaari. Also near extinction and caused chaos to be the problem it is now Chaos: Literal demons. Nuff said Tau: Advanced tech but commie and naive as hell. Necrons: Practically immortal but wants to eat everyones souls then go back to sleep for another 6,000,000 yrs. Tyranids: Apex predators that adapt quickly but are a hive mind and want to eat all biomass in the galaxy thus leaving it a husk of what it once was. Orks: Perfectly adapted for the hell that is 40k and needs war like we need water. Due to this however, the orks just want never ending warfare. Did I get everything?
Templar Knight And even than I think that's just lack of creative writing. Orks are probably very hierarchal, tribal, they have more inner conflicts than even the imperium's political crybabying about heresy And it's hilarious and kinda depressing how orks probably argue heresy equivalent over techniques to be the biggest war boss. Like orks are the epitome of what these cucks would think of toxic masculinity, and the Gretchen are their incel slave things that tend to animals or serve as great target practice The thing is too orks really just can't comprehend any other way. so they don't fall to Chaos, and even when they do, in their mind they think they're still the greenest fucker around, they're just dicks to be dicks lol I kinda like Dark Eldar which is also dicks to be dicks but for them it comes from an unwarranted sense of superiority and arrogance. Their flaws caused a friggin chaos god and they still refuse to admit fault. all they can do is conspire against one another, commit unspeakable debauchery, and at the end of the day they don't even enjoy it. All the rape and torture is just their tried and true method to basically be elaborate psychic vampires clinging to life and trying to escape becoming one with Slaanesh. Craftworld seem like good guys by our human standards by comparison, but you gotta think from Eldar perspective Craftworld are wildly more manipulative to the point of even the dead souls of their own ancestors are just instruments for their war against the inevitable. 40k's nihilism forces people to actually think about what good and evil means for the player. Which is good. But of course normies hate to think, or at all be alienated from their shit head peers who also don't wanna think, and God forbid they should ever admit that not everything about them is wholesome but in the grand scheme of things they think their method will have the best outcome.
Honestly the Imperium is the only hope for humanity and therefore is by definition "good". It still may be a crapshoot that's slowly falling apart but without it humanity would have became extinct long ago.
well ... it did say so quite literally under the headline. Dont really care about small stupid gaming sites though, its like pointing at the weird child without friends. It dosnt matter
@@Titanic_Tuna The previlence of homosexuality and hookup culture has set the bar very low. With bugchasers running amok losing your virginity is as easy as unironically asking the LGBT community to "poz my neghole"
@@phreakazoith2237 death to the false emperor "And what are the achievements of your fragile Imperium? It is a corpse rotting slowly from within while maggots writhe in its belly. It was built with the toil of heroes and giants, and now it is inhabited by frightened weaklings to whom the glories of those times are half-forgotten legends..." -Ahzek Ahriman of the Thousand Sons
its amazing, and that's coming from someone who love star trek. (as a note, in the tos and ds9 series its closer to 40k than you might think, being grey vs black. Star wars is more different ethically from 40k than trek is.
@@janehrahan5116 Because 40k isn't about the future, it's about the past. It's a pastiche of all human conflict, projected onto a Lord of The Rings: In Space setting, with some added inspiration drawn from the likes of Dune. The whole point of 40k is that everything big that was ever going to happen, has already happened hundreds or even thousands of years ago; the present is a constant conflict born of decay and collapse.
@@janehrahan5116 There's definitely a place for Star Trek in Sci-Fi fandom, but increasingly it appears there's this view from people who aren't actually fans of 40k, that there is no room for 40k. Also - homura akemi is a TERRIBLE PERSON
@@internetzenmaster8952 *dark eldar vat grown slave, born purely to slave away their lives which then end in torture and followed by what ever slaanesh does to eldar
It's only hellish to morons who think Communism is a moral good. To anyone with sense it's a terrible place to live, but far superior to all the alternatives if you're a human
@1234 its already happening, woke media is dying, Metoo is backfiring and losing And cancel culture is being rebelled against by comedians who have had enough. Its all crashing down on them and they are scrambling to hold on to what little power they have left. With twitters banning of political ads, they got dealt a massive blow. And the supreme court's ruling against trump blocking people, now all their politicians cant do the same and its killing them
@Hector Lewis you can't fight the mob and they outnumber us. every time you say these people are a minority i know you cry doing so because these people literally gave Hilary the popular vote so no these people ain't no minority. lol.
@Solarchos i support you fully dude but that was only wave one. these fuckers have nearly unlimited support from government activist groups so they can waste footsoldiers while we can't.
@1234 You are going to be really scared when you found out a Liberal and Progressive aren't the same thing, and you pretty much stand for actual Classical Liberal ideals.
Isnt that the whole Point of the Imperium? That its so big that there are "fires" basically everywhere? From Planets where Tau visit and suddenly its "we wanna join the greater good" to Nobles who think "i dont need the imperium" to uprisings etc. Wasnt that the whole Point why the Imperial guard cant bring its full force to the "borders" because they are basically everyhwere within the imperium slamming down open Rebellions. While the Adeptus Arbites try to prevent them before it becomes a planet/system War. I mean .. isnt that the whole theme of the Imperium the whole: "if they could just unite like in the times of 30k they would be unstopable again"?
I mean, the winners write history, so it kind of determine who's right and who's wrong ? I'm not talking from the SJW's "Absolute Good and Evil" point of view, but a more realistic one.
The funniest quote: "40k needs to do this to be mainstream" The writer actually thinks that being woke is mainstream LOL He must not have heard of "get woke, go broke"
@@raspberrypie1706 What you call "race realism" is just primitive tribalism and collective thinking that borders more on socialism than seeing people as individuals.
@@Schwarzvogel1 And guess who didn't put men on the moon, invent the steam engine, electricity, mass production, the telegraph, telephone, internet, radio, the internal combustion engine, conquer the globe and create the airplane?
Glorifies being the bad guy: The bad guy: horribly mutated either with grotesque tentacles, pungent boils, uncontrollable blood lust, or mental instability and likely in constant pain. Some people just don't understand what 40K is really about.
Me: well I have some Knights. Those big mech suits. Normie: cool stuff. Me: and I love kriegers who will nuke your fucking home and grind you to Death in their own blood. Normie: eeeee Me: but I absolutely ADORE torture, flaying people alive and drugs obsessed dark eldar who will eat your heart in front of you watching and screaming for hours. Normie: REEEEEEEEEEE
i barely know anything about warhammer 40k but got interested in the last couple months just learning about the general life of each factions and whatnot, and even i know that it's near impossible to figure everything out as literally any fanmade comic or whatever about events can be incorporated into the lore if popular enough ontop of the massive timeline in the game to play with. it's one of those universes that are constantly being added to and tweaked by both the developers and the fans, though they do keep certain things consistently grounded. the elder scrolls universe is the only other universe i can even compare it to, but TES universe is the way it is because the company is bad at keeping consistency, and not because it's very open to variation by the fans
@@Gameprojordan It is like real life. You do not know everything within the World. May think you do. Yet you don't. 40k's lore is so massive and has so many layers. That you cannot understand everything within 40k. If you did. You clearly are a genius or a super computer...which makes you an AI....and AIs are evil...*Glares*
Everyone is going to love 40k for different reasons, it's too vast a universe for that not to inevitably happen. But I love it for what it is and was drawn to it instantly because of how much it stood out from everything, even though it took almost all it's inspiration from other sources. People who want to change the universe however maybe don't actually love it all that much for what it is, and that bugs the shit out of me. When I got tired of Star Wars, I moved on and found 40k. If you tire of 40k, maybe just move on?
40k embodies everything they fear: Humanities slow decay into a fallen empire despite it's best efforts and even god like intervention, that can't stop the system from collapsing in on itself.
@@playwars3037 the fear is that there are people that think 40k embodies reality and use it as fascist propaganda to radicalise other fans and make them hate brown people and immigrants and jews and people they deem "degenerates" if someone falls into one of these categories or cares about those who do then it's a scary thing
@@bravetherainbow Except that I have seen no evidence of that, and so far have only seen people that label EVERY fan of WH40 "Nazis". So far there seems to only be hysteric SJW yelling the second anything is imperfect and doesn't comform to the atom to their vision of the universe.
@@valance10 wrong, to not learn of His most glorious and divine Majesty is a sing of idiocy barely tolerated in the Imperium; the Schola Progenium has the responsability to educate every human into becoming decent subjects to the Emperor. To not worship Him is grounds for heresy, for every action, no matter how horrible is justified if it's done to serve His Imperium
The Warhammer universe is so far removed from politics it's toxic to SJWs. A space marine does not choose to be a facist! As demon-spawn do not care for the politics of its next meal. Facism doesnt protect. God-emperor protects.
When an inquisitor condemns a whole planet to Exterminatus he may give the order with a stoic face but inside he is filled with rage,sadness and self hatred
Even space marines can be conflicted, just look at DoW, Gabriel angelos has the consistent reminder of exterminating his homeworld not because he wanted to, but because he was forced to and it still haunts him
The Imperiun commits atrocities because they have to, if they wish to survive. Hardly anyone on the decision-making level of the Imperium cares about good or evil, theyre just ensuring humanities survival.
@Imperial Judesmen138 Actually, you might be surprised at that. Now, Inquisitors have been heavily indoctrinated for years to the point where they will probably still believe that blowing up the whole planet was just a matter of Doing What They Had To Do, but unless the Inquisitor in question was already a sadist and/or psychopath, they would probably feel at least a little internal conflict about it. We spend a long time 'breaking' soldiers to the point that they're willing to kill people, but even then PTSD among soldiers who've killed is pretty common, and while most of them soldier on and don't let it stop them doing their duties, a fairly large chunk of soldiers suffer some degree of mental trauma (admittedly some of that is from the general stress of seeing your friends die and/or being in life-or-death scenarios, but killing people is surely a big part of it too). It may be 41,000 AD, but human nature is still human nature. I wouldn't be surprised if most of those who order Exterminatus feel at least some residual guilt over it (though in fairness, it's well known that the psychological impact of killing is much lessened if the victims are anonymous, so that might help).
@@nikoslav They definitely don't know that Vulkan lives, either. But no matter what, make sure they know that Cadia stands, and that the planet broke before the guard. :P
“There’s no-rebellion resisting this regime” The Ordo Hereticus: *collectively looks up from the tome after tome of recorded (and ended) rebellions* “Are you sure about that?” The Death Korps of Krieg: “If there were no rebellions, we wouldn’t be here, or be this cool” Also the Imperium isn’t presented as “right” (even if it is, praise the emperor), it’s presented as necessary, as an regime that must be accepted because they way the universe is established, anything but the Imperium would spell total annihilation for all of Humanity.
@TomeOfBattle What do you reckon: phaser rifles>lasguns or lasguns>phasers ? I mean in sheer quantity of weapons and users, we know who wins but what do you think about sheer firepower per weapon?
Don't EVER chase the mythical "wider audience" by taking away what made it a beloved IP. There's no guarantee that new faces will come, but it will definitely drive some of the longtime fans away!
That's exactly the right argument. Said another way, it's risk versus reward. Risk your already installed, core fans who love the setting for exactly what it is for an opportunity to appeal to a wider audience that may or may not pan out. Or, keep doing what you're doing, make something that will obviously work with and appeal to that already existent core fan base, and potentially gain some exposure and increase, albeit likely only marginally, that core. The first is risking everything for potentially nothing, and the other is risking nothing for potential growth. Seems like a pretty simple choice to me... But then again, you can't predict stupid.
Juaggu productions id rather a bit more of Legend if Galactic Heroes, action, politics, scheming, variety of cast from across society. Just set it as a serial about a crusade to forge a sector from wild space.
We shall fortify 40k From all attempts at it becoming more 'Mainstream safe'. We're going to need more Heavy Bolters though..Maybe a couple Lascannons...A new Powerfist for some of the newer Battle Bruva's...But we can do this.
*Ork Attack Moon pops into orbit* _"Oi! Save some of the fight for us will ya? Da boyz iz gonnu krump dem "mainstream safe" gits roight proppa I sayz!"_ *[WAAAAGH!!! intensifies]*
"In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war." The Emperor was a unifying and pure force for mankind, bringing humanity to the galaxy as one of the main forces. After the Emperor you can see the problem with humanity and religion in a sense. Humanity believes in him as a God, and they're willing to kill and die for him. There are very few plot arnor characters so there's not many chances for one hero to follow, instead it's on a grand scale where one hero matters less than a whole chapter or regiment. And with no romance or side stories it's strictly for people that like the galactic war side of sci fi. It also goes into logistics quite a bit, so it's not for a younger audience that doesn't care about logistics.
Hollywood is so shortsighted when it comes to appealing an audience. They want to make a movie that EVERYONE would want to see. And yeah...uh...how about just make a movie that fills a target audience. You know. Would anyone ever go see a PG-13 version of Nightmare on Elm Street? Or Friday The 13th? Or how about this. A PG version of Jaws? Yeah. No. I haven't even scratched the surface. I could go on. As I see it. Make a damn movie, keep it within a budget, if it does well, BOOM! Proof it! If not. Well, there is always the Blu-Ray market and Digital Sells. Or do one better. Skip the fucking movie theater and take it directly to Home with Digital Movie services.
Just look at the expanded universe of Star Wars. People will make canon what they think is good canon. And the "new trilogy" is not canon, no matter what Disney says. And if GW make WH40k go woke, people will reject the new canon and just play by the old rules and lore.
30K Imperium: Roman empire 40K Imperium: HRE (aka medieval feudalism incl the strong political position of the church in it and all the ills that come with it) both cranked up to 11
@Jarl William It does have political commissars(USSR element) but the reason I counted those as stylistic element is that they do not contribute to the political/governmental decision making process. We don't see(as far as I am aware) a single party rule who sets micromanaging long term economic plans(maybe the mechanicum does idk) and justifies itself by claiming to represent the "liberated" working class. Instead, we see a hierarchy of semi autonomous appointed rulers who claim to rule by divine right and a parallel/independent administration of the church with its own "lands"(planets) to rule.
@Jarl William The various ruling factions do not rule like communists, they rule like totalitarians, which USSR commies were. Totalitarianism was and is not unique to Stalin and his ilk.
Don’t forget What defeat at the hands of chaos will mean, eternal suffering at the hands of warp predators who existence is predicated upon the concepts of pain and slavery of the soul and body, just look at shit like the daemonculaba
Shane Grimes Quintillions live on Terra. Hive worlds are a thing with pops of 20-100 billion and they make up a good percentage of planets under the Imperiums rule.
Star Wars and Warhammer 40k are about as different as Age of Sigmar and Lord of the Rings. Trying to make either one into the other is a terrible idea, even in small scale.
"It might be too much for a general audience" The fact that there are countless opinion pieces talking about how 40k needs to be modernised or that it is fascist etc, shows that it is already too much for some. The only problem is that these people who are writing these are the ones who wish to act as gatekeepers of the Ministry of Truth's lists of approved content.
Well,the thing is that 40k IS extremely fascist,but it was done in purpose,thats the fun of it,it is edgy to the point of being ridiculous. Like WW1 warfare and cavalry charges on an hyper futuristic setting, the empire is as fascist as it gets because grimdark is not meant to be taken completely seriously.
@@feelthepony The problem is it isn't fascist. It is more akin to the type of feudal autocracy that was common through the majority of Human history because at a fundamental level it works as a means of consolidating power without having to have a fully competent ruler. This is why Dune, CoDominium and other Sci-Fi settings have used similar governments as a basis for their universe's government, it is a believable model. It mihgt not be meant to be taken seriously but it can be if you want because it makes sense both thematically and based on observations of human behaviour.
Vision of Escaflowne. It's basically an anime taking place on a feudal Knight world. There's even a bit where they call the Mechanicus to help repair a mech that's centuries beyond their world's level of technology (giant spaceship, men in robes and cybernetics). The resemblance is uncanny.
"D&D is a story about good vs evil" My Players Kill Count: Innocents-Genocided a few races and inhabited planets in custom campaigns, reign of terror as vampire overlords; Baddies-As many trash mobs as I can throw at them, 8 BBEGs. This doesn't balance out as you can see. Then again 1 village of innocents = 1 evil dragon; to balance out the alignment points scale Me: Yeah D&D is a game about good vs evil. About how many good people you can kill as opposed to bad people. My current campaign is a dystopian society where humanity rules over all other races with an iron fist while fighting a war with powerful beings from a northern continent. The players are non-humans and I have encouraged them to engage in morally dubious or outright illegal activities to get around in the campaign. They work in a crime syndicate and do bad things. In the campaign's universe they would be considered thieves, rebels and terrorists but in the real world they would be considered heroes for rebelling against whatever people see them rebelling against. My point being for D&D and the main topic, 40k, is that good and evil are interchangeable and neither universes define it specifically because those moral systems are malleable to both verses and shouldn't be interpreted from our viewpoint but the viewpoint within the respective universes which (typically in D&D's case) is morally ambiguous.
If I let my entire party die for a load of pot bread, then became a literal god and remade the universe using Bard music... Does that count as -my- killcount or the monsters who I helped by blinding them with bad music?
@@Dogmelter42 I suppose it would be from your DM's perspective but if had to give my opinion, I'd say the monsters got the kill and you just happened to assist in the death of your party. Let's go with assisted kill and since you killed your party over food your alignment is Gucci. After all, food=not starving therefore indirectly murdering your party to "not starve" is a neutral action. Also becoming a god and remaking the universe with Bard Magic sounds f*cking badass. I think you just gave me an idea for a new BBEG for my current campaign.
@@JonStormr np brother. That was a highly freeform session with a lot of homebrew. My bard was surprisingly neutral. He just chilled around, eating drugged bread and somehow surviving the campaign through sheer luck and technicalities. My DM wasn't very strict, so killing a giant gelatinous cube with salty pot bread was hilarious and the group was extremely chill. Doesn't help that the campaign was a prequel so everyone dying wouldn't work with the flow.
My DM: tells how alchemists make potions from living mages that make a person more powerful and grant eternal youth, with a side affect of soul addicted to drug and madness. Me and other players, as mages: fight regime by stealing, killing, kidnapping, making zombies, summoning demons, eventually drinking potions ourselves. We are chaotic, stronger a lot (still dust in an eye of a skilled drinker), teammate posessed by demon. Tell everyone we are lawful good. Kill those who doubt (if we can).
@@FazeParticles It certainly seems that you can't tolerate others freedoms that don't match your own version of understanding; by your veiled hinting that you think those you view as immoral, cognatively limited or unable to be, should be your domestic assistants, workers or slaves - if I guess too far close to the bone of your meaning. Either that, or you're just trolling by AH
Counter argument - Hollywood is not ready for 40k.
Edit. And not worth it.
Tyrsonn Ulvhjerte not even Slanesh would touch Hollywood
Preach it, most of american movie adaptations only use the name and barely touch anything else.
@@vicwolfrin even he/she/it knows better.
Tyrsonn Ulvhjerte let the guys who make good animations like the guy who astartes handle the animations and stuff
@@littlegreenhelmetboi4148 they should stay independent if you ask me.
“40K is filled with tyranny.”
“No no no, it’s pronounced ‘Tyranids’ but yeah they’re everywhere in the Milky Way.”
I hate those bugs, there’s a reason imperial citizens don’t wear any jeans anymore.
Let me introduce you to the greatest menace to the galaxy: The TRANNY-DS.
Give me the fuckin heeby jeebies. My least favorite faction to fight in Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2
@@thinkwithurdipstick aww the bugs just wanna hug your ships tightly
Ramming and boarding. The AI doesn't seem to know how to avoid ramming itself tho, lol.
"It's basically the anti-Startrek". The most definitively true statement I've heard in a while.
@HaloBaller9813 Okay...you deliberately distorted that in Warhammer's favor.
As a Star Trek fan I have thought this too. Both universes are awesome, but for very different reasons.
Star Trek represents humanity as it should be, but never will. 40k represents humanity as it shouldn't be, but always will.
@@lobsterminion693 gay cold take 40k represents humanity as it needs to embrace star trek is gay liberal post scarcity garbage
@@Retard634 bang on
“40k isn’t ready for Hollywood”
*looks at the absolute beige, pandering soulless shite Hollywood vomits up for the largest possible market*
Good
Pretty much a compliment of the highest regard these days.
It's a slaneshi cult
Hollywood is more a cementary for fiction these days.
@@bobloerakker7010 slaneshi cults are creative, so they're not even that
DerAnanasKing god damn your right
"No rebellion against the Imperium"
Horus: - I am joke to you?
Literally what ripped the Imperium apart
that line made me laugh the writer of that blog was so full of shit that he didnt knew that the whole galaxy was rife with rebellions , genestealers cult , sadistic thirsty gods
Well...Heresy SPAWNS FROM IDLENESS!
List of things the writer knew going in:
Space marines
People call it grimdark
@@ImpKnt80 ninja'd
"To them, The Emperor embodies "real" American ideals."
My personal favorite. GW was founded by british guys in the 80´s right? We all remember them as loving the real American ideals
Oh yeah XD Lol
And the Emperor himself is the most militant Atheist to ever militant atheist.
Yeah, their HQ is now in Nottingham, like the other side of the road from the University (Uon not Trent.) On campus, if people know at all, they love it.
Emperor of Mankind: "For the betterment of every living man, the Truth and ever standing peace in unity, across the stars..."
Media: Evil fascist dictator! He's a monster!
@@TheSimpleMan454
He definitely had his flaws and caused a whole lot of harm through his inability to relate with or seemingly empathize with others people, but the Emperor was definitely well-intentioned and truly loved the potential he saw within humanity.
He definitely did a lot of horrible things and wanted unquestioning obedience from everyone else though. He had noble goals, but was not himself a very good person.
Nah, we can go without a wider audience. We should conserve our content.
Yeah shit like this make me fear for Warhammer (in general) that it might cave to theses rainbow haired freaks because the original audience (us/old guard) will me the minority.
Let's hope that topbrass in GW HQ knows that and won't try to reach "wider audience" no matter costs, as that will be war of attrition which they will loose as current fans aren't as numerous as Imperial Guard ;)
@@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935 The iold guard are the minority? I doubt it. I can't think of a single franchise that went "woke" and came out of it more popular than it went in with. People follow trends, not politics, especially in their media. I daresay a company that says "This is the universe, this is what it is, and we're not changing it to something proven to be unpopular" would draw a MUCH larger crowd.
Pretty sure Hollywood isn't ready for us anyway lol.
Star Wars fans sent them licking their wounds, may the Emperor protect them from the 40k fanbase.
If 40k will ever go Star Wars progressive roads it will be end of 40k
When faced with extinction, EVERY other option is preferable.
You forgot, there are people who genuinely campaign for a reduction or extinction of the human race because it would be better for the planet.
Did you just quote the Director from 'Red vs Blue'?
Btw, the quote is completely applicable to 40k
@@Talshere88 Insert 'White' and your comment would be most pertinent.
Survival Instinct, it is literally nature.
There are animals who cannibalize or commit suicide so that their colony can survive.
And humans have done some serious shit in history just to survive
@@Talshere88 well, stabilization of the number of the human populus will become necessary, otherwise humanity will go extinct by it's own mass, as planet earth is incapable of supporting too many of us. What is up for debate is HOW we achieve this (best case through: technological progress)
"even if they rebooted the entire setting"
Yeah because that worked so well for Fantasy didn't it?
Only took AoS, what, nearly a decade for its lore to just start sounding believable and not "bear with us, we're making shit up as we go" like it did for most of the 2010s?
I love how much people defend AoS, it cracks me up when I hear people claim it's popular & making money. No, games workshop is making more off video game licensing than all of their table-top models.
We don’t talk about *that* game here. Fantasy never died, we can keep playing it. GW doesn’t get to determine which of their games we play.
@@lordvarrax5060 Do you think they'll eventually bring back Fantasy?
Mr. Cuddlesworth It’s not impossible, but I doubt it. Remember, GW only cares about profit. If they think it’ll increase sales, they’ll do it. I doubt it though.
“This setting is mean.”
What a limp-wristed critique. Being mean can be fun, especially if it literally hurts no one.
Actually, it hurts the little plastic figures
no, it hurts their feelings that you somehow still have freedom to think anything in witch they deem not correct,
You insulted my assumed beliefs from my fantasy world! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
It hurts my wallet.....
BUT IT IS A GOOD PAIN!
A lot of these people get hung up how 40K isn't the same as in 1st edition.
Why do they always use words like “mean” and “gross” and “icky”...
They talk like small children.
Their mentality is that of children.
You're just a doo-doo head, just stop being racist fascist my man.
If their mentality was any further advanced than a child's then the fact that there is no clear "good" and "bad" wouldn't be considered a problem, fact is that these people are too stunted mentally to cope with the barely complex ideas of 40k.
@@nikoslav Then you ain't ready for the wh40k then
@@josephhugotjiong6741 did you just assume my readiness status? That's offensive
The entitlement and ignorance in this article makes me want to vomit.
Hold strong and stand your ground Brother. *hands a Heavy Flamer*
The time will come to act when it does.
@@ericfrancisco6615 Get me a Lasgun, I want to join the fight!
I did a little bit.
"This very article shows why the normals have to be eradicated, you see" - Waahmudes
Unexpected TTS Podcast reference.
Like always the over glorified bloggers can't understand the concept of critical thinking or the idea of seeing different points of view without immediately accepting them
Because University is not there to teach you critical thinking. It is there to
Indoctrinate you and tell you this is what critical thinkers think.
@Joe Bennett You underestimate them. They are the same people who get upset when goblins are portrayed as murderers and kidnappers.
They object to everything that is inconvenient to their narrative.
Violent orkz shouldn't exist, because you are not allowed to have this justification of your bigotry towards humanoids with green skin.
That's how they think. So these imaginary Orks, and Chaos are inconvenient to their narrative. They want them gone.
They wouldn't be able to think in these social engineering ways if they were as unintelligent as you suggested.
Yeah whoever wrote that crap was a hack. Almost like he's scared of warhammer's growing popularity. Deal with it. Can't be stopped. The people are ready.
@@TikkiEXX They are not hacks, they are highly educated in thought manipulation.
Orks in this story shouldn't exist, because they make you think of self defense and self preservation, and I don't want you to think of self preservation.
Tyranids in this story shouldn't exist, because they make you think of self defense and self preservation, and I don't want you to think of self preservation.
XX in this story shouldn't exist, because I don't want you to think YY, it may even lead you to purchase weapon ZZ. And we definitely don't want you to have that.
@@nosignal7156 Agreed. See what they've done with the Skrull..
Arch I just wanted to thank you, exposing me to these types of people realy helps with my chronically low blood pressure.
40k is one of the most fair places to be in everything gets treated equally. Everything has the same rights
To die for the emperor is the greatest duty of all!
But, I thought 40k already has a mainstream version...
... what do you mean Starcraft is not made by Games Workshop?
@@trenchantarchbishop5759 the difference between making a game as a small company in the 90s and making a game as a large corporation in the 2010s. I wish video gaming would have stayed niche so we wouldn't have all these lame watered down properties striving to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
@@trenchantarchbishop5759 Well, Wings of Liberty is a prety than good campaing, but, Heart of the Swarm an Legacy of the void realr fucked the entire history of the game
This sounds like a person who has watched like 10 of those 40 fact videos that were recomended to them for no reason and thinks they're a lore expert.
I need to see that you've read at least 10 40k novels, the first 3 Horus heresy novels, and played the original Dawn of war game for me to take you seriously........
@@horuslupercal3872 hold up I feel like you attacking personally (if this was 7 years ago I have learned much since then )
@@benoliver5593 you are but the learner, I AM THE MASTER
Hmm I know nothing of 40k but ive watched probably 300 lore videos on warhammer. Puts me to sleep nice and right
"The God-Emperor embodies American values". I said "WHAT" at the same time you did. LOL
This was obviously written by someone who barely understands the setting.
I don't do board games or mini figures. I'm only into 40k for the lore. I like it because it is different.
Robyn Highart I’m just here for the VIOLENCE.
Praise the Emperor!
You aren't alone
Same here. Mainly because I'm poor but I would totally buy some CHADIAN shock trooper figurines.
oh, me too.
i would love to play but i am a friendless fuck so its just lore for me! haha...
It’s a niche hobby, we don’t need hipsters and millennial snowflakes trying to flood into and ruin it like they do everything else.
That's not going to stop them. They've largely run out of other things to converge, and now they're coming for the niche interests. No refuge from wokeness is allowed sh!tlord.
Just dont buy the crap that is supposed to apeal to the SJW and dont be bullied out of the actual lore by them. Simple as that. And the hipsters dont buy the stuff thats supposed to apeal to them either, so it will be over before it even started.
Brett Hazelton sadly a lot of them have inherited money. That has been the problem the past 5+ years, they got all this money from an estate and now blow it all on certain markets and drive up the cost. Hopefully you are right and they won’t want to spend money lol, maybe they will Go Fund Me asking for money for an army!
"Without weaponized electric guitars..."
Are Chaos Noise Marines no longer a thing in 40k?
@Hector Lewis nope chaos Marines with electric guitars are still a thing in the Tabletop
Slaneeshi Noise Marines were featured in one of the missions in _Dawn of War III_ so it seems they're still around.
The music and the facecam adds to the type of content you make man, so cool.
A 40k anime! I've been thinking about that for a while.
"especially if it embraces it's in-saiyen roots" That's what it sounded like Arch though I couldn't tell if it was intentional...
Funnily enough, as someone who doesn’t like trump, I actually though the ‘god emperor trump’ meme was making fun of him. Pointing out that it seems like he thinks the president is all powerful.
Until the left brought it up it didn’t even occur to me that that comparison could ever be considered favorable.
No one is sure who made It. However, was used later during the election.
I can assume It is cause warhammers biggest fan be our ol'chin bois
I always assumed the meme waa just to piss off trumpers and trumphaters. I have seen both sides pissed by this meme.
>Article implies D&D is Good vs Evil
"Golly, you've never actually played D&D, have you?"
NeonSuspenders That requires friends, the author doesn’t have any
Unsurprising. To succeed in Hollywood you have to water down anything remotely interesting.
Example, any marvel schlockbuster. Devoid of character and flavor instead preffering plastic and sterile done to death by the book sequel after sequel.
As Star Wars, Ghostbusters, and Terminator have proven... keep anything you love away from normies and Orange Man Bad folks; or prepare to go underground.
Its not even the normies fault-its the uptight SJW moralists.
Even if you nuke everything... THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!
Hatred it the Emperor's gift to Humanity
Except no. The joker movie alone kills this argument. People love bad guy centered movies.
The point of 40k is that EVERY ONE is evil but they believe there the good guys.
Thrn they are the good guys. The lesser evil becomes good.
*They’re* or *they are* *
@@Inquisitor_Vex I was not sure what you are getting at with your post. Are you an English professor, or just a 40k fan boy without any valid comments to ad or counter my claim? 😝😝😝
@@Inquisitor_Vex Hey. Hit me back and vorrect mi dab spelln again. Yo is a gret dictionry.
You must be a dictionary servitor from 40k. Get it?🙉🙈
The only way I would ever see a Warhammer cartoon alongside Rick and Morty or Venture Bros. Would be one about Ciaphas Cain. That would be the dark humored lineup that we all need
A very interesting read, and a great video!
"Mainstream is not ready for 40K", or "40K is not ready for mainstream"? I think a lot of people are ready for 40K, and I think 40K is ready for those people. It's just that those who decide what is supposed to be "mainstream" are not representatives of the larger population, and they seem to believe that if something won't sell to everyone, it's not worth the money to make. Which is why we keep getting the same cliches in every one of those so called blockbusters, instead of something a little more unique. But we do have something like well selling horror movies, for example, and 40K would make for a very interesting scene for that. Which makes me wonder why it hasn't been done already.
One thing to clear up though:
"The imperium of man is not fascist, nor a dictatorship." Well, that's true only in a sense. The imperium of man is WAY beyond what we would define as such by our own standards. In 40K, humanity is beset on all sides by enemies who would seek to destroy us. There is no time for democracy, just like you say, and every aspect of human life is ruled over through a very strict hierarchy from our very births. The God Emperor only rules by name, and all interpretations of his will are just a means for the high lords of Terra to completely dominate their subjects. Much like many religious cults and powerful leaders have done in the past, and are still doing in our own time. It's pretty much as fascist as things can get.
Does all this mean that 40K glorifies fascism and dictatorship? No, it's just a part of what makes the whole 40K universe such a horrifying place to live in! It's described as an absolute nightmare, and would serve as an excellent reminder as to why we should never strive for such a government. Putting Trump's face on a picture of the emperor, or anything else in the 40K universe, is not a compliment. To either of the sides.
But who are the good guys they ask? "we don't do that here". The orks "technology" still cracks me up. It works because they believe it does and red goes faster
We should crowfund the Astartes guy to make a 22 part series and get a deal with some distributing platform, like Stars.
Don't forget the God-Emperor of Dune. For a while there were also people who referring to that when they called Trump the "God-Emperor".
In Dune Leto II becomes an omniscient ruler (well almost) by the fourth book, who is definitely playing 4-D chess.
"Bad guy" in 40k?
We don't do that here.....
You're the bad guy!
You're the bad guy!
Everyone is the bad guy!
-How 40k actually works
*inhales*
Choas.
I thought part of the point in 40k was that there were no 'good' guys. Just war. ENDLESS WAR.
Incorrect on that article title. Hollywood is not ready for Warhammer 40k.
woke hollywood will never be ready for anything that includes creativity
Funny you should say woke, because the tyranids are the most wokest race in the 40k. They don't care about race, creed, sexual performance ect, they will happily welcome anyone into their stomachs.
Sick Bozo Hollywood “creative ideas are a dangerous thing
I grim darkness of woke social media there's only bitching.
who cares about Hollywood, we need Warhammer 40k anime or independent film
@@tssteelx actually the tyranid are the opposite of woke. woke people ONLY view the world through race, sexual preference, and gender. I know they claim to want "representation", but you have to understand that woke culture uses the most opaque version of Orwell's doublespeak in history. Representation=stereotyping, inclusivity=segregation, safe spaces=attack platforms, oppression=individual freedoms, ect.
"Its xenophobic! "
Space Marines: " are you accusing us being afraid of xenos?"
They would say probably:
"Ah thank you for prasing our hate of the xenos!"
*Cocks bolter* We Shall Know No Fear.
@@Zombiewithabowtie Brother!
Funny I that I was.....annoying normies
I'm using this.
The reason I got into Warhammer is that there are no real “good guys.” Each faction has ups and downs. Did the author not get this?
The author clearly wants 40k to be a Star Wars clone
@Templar Knight finally a brother who understands that only greenskins are correct
Templar Knight lets see...
Imperium: Authoritarian oligarchy, yet pre Horus Heresy was a serious threat to chaos. Also honestly the best bet for any sense of order in the galaxy at the cost of average people are expendable as a toothpick.
Eldar: Aldaari have high amount of psychers but Slaanesh has it out for them and are dependent on some stones to keep them from meeting her. Drukaari cause so much suffering they mask their presence but don’t use psychers and same Slaanesh situation as aldaari. Also near extinction and caused chaos to be the problem it is now
Chaos: Literal demons. Nuff said
Tau: Advanced tech but commie and naive as hell.
Necrons: Practically immortal but wants to eat everyones souls then go back to sleep for another 6,000,000 yrs.
Tyranids: Apex predators that adapt quickly but are a hive mind and want to eat all biomass in the galaxy thus leaving it a husk of what it once was.
Orks: Perfectly adapted for the hell that is 40k and needs war like we need water. Due to this however, the orks just want never ending warfare.
Did I get everything?
Templar Knight
And even than I think that's just lack of creative writing. Orks are probably very hierarchal, tribal, they have more inner conflicts than even the imperium's political crybabying about heresy
And it's hilarious and kinda depressing how orks probably argue heresy equivalent over techniques to be the biggest war boss. Like orks are the epitome of what these cucks would think of toxic masculinity, and the Gretchen are their incel slave things that tend to animals or serve as great target practice
The thing is too orks really just can't comprehend any other way. so they don't fall to Chaos, and even when they do, in their mind they think they're still the greenest fucker around, they're just dicks to be dicks lol
I kinda like Dark Eldar which is also dicks to be dicks but for them it comes from an unwarranted sense of superiority and arrogance. Their flaws caused a friggin chaos god and they still refuse to admit fault. all they can do is conspire against one another, commit unspeakable debauchery, and at the end of the day they don't even enjoy it. All the rape and torture is just their tried and true method to basically be elaborate psychic vampires clinging to life and trying to escape becoming one with Slaanesh. Craftworld seem like good guys by our human standards by comparison, but you gotta think from Eldar perspective Craftworld are wildly more manipulative to the point of even the dead souls of their own ancestors are just instruments for their war against the inevitable.
40k's nihilism forces people to actually think about what good and evil means for the player. Which is good. But of course normies hate to think, or at all be alienated from their shit head peers who also don't wanna think, and God forbid they should ever admit that not everything about them is wholesome but in the grand scheme of things they think their method will have the best outcome.
These cucks look at real world nations, and see a map of good guys and bad guys.
"There is no good in the Imperium"
Salamanders: "Am I a joke to you?"
Honestly the Imperium is the only hope for humanity and therefore is by definition "good". It still may be a crapshoot that's slowly falling apart but without it humanity would have became extinct long ago.
@@CThyran Only hope for humanity? Undoubtedly. Whether or not the Imperium is actually good? I'd say no, personally.
Looks like that idiot totally missed the point of the entire thing.
Relictors, Imperial Fists, Torch Lizards, Howling Gryphons, Cadians, Halcyon Drop Troopers... Your average Imperial citizen even? No one good my ass.
Don't forget about the poor Lamentors!
“Warhammer 40k is not ready for Hollywood”
I think you got that backwards pally.
*repeatedly smashes head against like button*
This.
well ... it did say so quite literally under the headline. Dont really care about small stupid gaming sites though, its like pointing at the weird child without friends. It dosnt matter
You mean Hollywood isn't ready for GW 40K
@@Xarcht
That's what he said, yes.
100%. I came here to say the same thing.
"there are no rebellions resisting this regime"
Forces of Chaos: "Let us introduce ourselves"
Secessionists from other planets: What about us?
_Happy Vrak noises_
kriegsman affixing bayonet: ohhh boy what a lovely day to die for the emperor
Clearly the writer has never read any of the backstory of Krieg or the Deathkorps.
@@QwertyBoredom122 _happy nuclear noises_
“There is Hope?” Is sounds like this guy is a Tzeentch cultist
No. He's a liberal. He's the bastardchild of Slaanesh and Nurgle what with all those STDs.
@@Ultrox007 Do you think people like that even have the capacity to get STDs??? I don't think they do.
Need hope? The glorious god emperor is a whole beacon of hope for a dark galaxy!
@@Titanic_Tuna The previlence of homosexuality and hookup culture has set the bar very low.
With bugchasers running amok losing your virginity is as easy as unironically asking the LGBT community to "poz my neghole"
@@phreakazoith2237 death to the false emperor
"And what are the achievements of your fragile Imperium? It is a corpse rotting slowly from within while maggots writhe in its belly. It was built with the toil of heroes and giants, and now it is inhabited by frightened weaklings to whom the glories of those times are half-forgotten legends..."
-Ahzek Ahriman of the Thousand Sons
"it's basically the anti-star treck"
..And that's a good thing.
Indeed brother, indeed.
its amazing, and that's coming from someone who love star trek. (as a note, in the tos and ds9 series its closer to 40k than you might think, being grey vs black. Star wars is more different ethically from 40k than trek is.
@@janehrahan5116 Because 40k isn't about the future, it's about the past. It's a pastiche of all human conflict, projected onto a Lord of The Rings: In Space setting, with some added inspiration drawn from the likes of Dune.
The whole point of 40k is that everything big that was ever going to happen, has already happened hundreds or even thousands of years ago; the present is a constant conflict born of decay and collapse.
@@janehrahan5116 There's definitely a place for Star Trek in Sci-Fi fandom, but increasingly it appears there's this view from people who aren't actually fans of 40k, that there is no room for 40k.
Also - homura akemi is a TERRIBLE PERSON
@@duckman12569 Homura did nothing wrong. In both the show (which should have been where it ended) and the movie.
"So who are the Good Guys in 40K?"
"We don't do that here."
The Tau seems good.
@@JUAN_OLIVIER you think that until you connect the Tau motto to Hot Fuzz. Suddenly "The Greater Good" doesn't sound so wholesome ;)
The Orks?
Lamenters. That's why reality fucks them up so hard.
@@zubbworks
I mean they are the comic relief in the universe.
"The Imperium is the most hellish dystopia in fiction"
Eye of Terror: "Am i a joke to you?"
Grot living under the boot of Ork overlords: "Sounds like a nice place to go for tea."
Dark Eldar : *laughing so hard their sides hurt*
BigSwede7403 they should really read more id they think the imperium of man is as bad as it gets
@@internetzenmaster8952 *dark eldar vat grown slave, born purely to slave away their lives which then end in torture and followed by what ever slaanesh does to eldar
I mean, the eye of terror is more of a massive torture-sex seizure dimension but ok
It's only hellish to morons who think Communism is a moral good.
To anyone with sense it's a terrible place to live, but far superior to all the alternatives if you're a human
Not ready for Hollywood? Good! Fantastic! That means there's something good left in there!
Thank the emperor!
‘But ... but I called you a fascist…!“
‘ and you think this gives you power over me?“
@1234 its already happening, woke media is dying,
Metoo is backfiring and losing
And cancel culture is being rebelled against by comedians who have had enough.
Its all crashing down on them and they are scrambling to hold on to what little power they have left.
With twitters banning of political ads, they got dealt a massive blow. And the supreme court's ruling against trump blocking people, now all their politicians cant do the same and its killing them
yes, it does give them power over you because all the stupid people will harass you. RIP bud.
@Hector Lewis you can't fight the mob and they outnumber us. every time you say these people are a minority i know you cry doing so because these people literally gave Hilary the popular vote so no these people ain't no minority. lol.
@Solarchos i support you fully dude but that was only wave one. these fuckers have nearly unlimited support from government activist groups so they can waste footsoldiers while we can't.
@1234 You are going to be really scared when you found out a Liberal and Progressive aren't the same thing, and you pretty much stand for actual Classical Liberal ideals.
"No rebellion against the Imperium"
The Legions of Chaos?
Sjw’s do seem to a slaaneshi cult.
@@reverendrico5631 being towed around by Tznech.
Isnt that the whole Point of the Imperium? That its so big that there are "fires" basically everywhere? From Planets where Tau visit and suddenly its "we wanna join the greater good" to Nobles who think "i dont need the imperium" to uprisings etc.
Wasnt that the whole Point why the Imperial guard cant bring its full force to the "borders" because they are basically everyhwere within the imperium slamming down open Rebellions. While the Adeptus Arbites try to prevent them before it becomes a planet/system War.
I mean .. isnt that the whole theme of the Imperium the whole: "if they could just unite like in the times of 30k they would be unstopable again"?
William Ings tzneech would imply they have an actual plan.
Kaitan yes, that about sums it up.
I like this quote here:
War doesnt determine whos right or wrong. It determins whos left.
IWillBecomeImmortalOrDieTrying and who will be there to argue that you where wrong is the other guy is dead
Based on the history written as by the winner/conquerer!! ;)
@@CommDante you said it. Right is written and passed down by those who won.
History is written by Victors
I mean, the winners write history, so it kind of determine who's right and who's wrong ? I'm not talking from the SJW's "Absolute Good and Evil" point of view, but a more realistic one.
I love how they mention StarCraft lol STARCRAFT WOULDN'T EXIST WITHOUT 40K THRONE HELP THESE PLEBS.
@MrNahual2099, warhammer is pretty gay...
tl;dr:
They hate it because its not a starwars clone.
@neruomir Yeah can someone bring over the commissar? Even the krieg guardsman feels sorry for the poor thing.
Are SJWs Tyranids? They infiltrate, corrupt, and eventually consume themselves. While, they hold no plans except to devour and leave nothing behind.
@@RambleOn07 Yes. Bring the flamers. The heavy ones.
@@roflfin
And bolters.Lots of heavy bolters.
@@rockytom5889 A few multi-meltas wouldn't hurt either.
I honestly hope 40K is never ready for Hollywood, those freaks ruin everything
Wrong line of thinking: Hollywood will never be ready for WH40K.
Warhammer is the last bastion of great sci fi.
@@mastershangchi3410 Dune, Cowboy Bebop, War of the world: am I a joke to you
@@randomblacktemplar738 I haven't seen any of that.
The comments section is ignoring Arch's best idea in this video:
An Ork cartoon series.
Just imagine all the hijinks like a old looney toons film
But with Orks and weapons
Waagh!
Oh hell yeah!
With the cartoonists of the modern day? No thank you. Give it a decade or three.
@@crawlingboy, old looney toons is basically racist doom.
The funniest quote:
"40k needs to do this to be mainstream"
The writer actually thinks that being woke is mainstream LOL
He must not have heard of "get woke, go broke"
Remember, he and those like him live in a ideological bubble where they believe the majority of people are like them and have had similar lives.
Depends on what you mean by "woke"
Would you consider "race realism" to be "woke"?
@@bravetherainbow race realism is the opposite of woke, it's well researched and verified science.
@@raspberrypie1706 What you call "race realism" is just primitive tribalism and collective thinking that borders more on socialism than seeing people as individuals.
@@Schwarzvogel1 And guess who didn't put men on the moon, invent the steam engine, electricity, mass production, the telegraph, telephone, internet, radio, the internal combustion engine, conquer the globe and create the airplane?
Glorifies being the bad guy:
The bad guy: horribly mutated either with grotesque tentacles, pungent boils, uncontrollable blood lust, or mental instability and likely in constant pain. Some people just don't understand what 40K is really about.
So the daemon prince's aren't the good guys then? What a shocking idea!
WH40K is far from being manicheist but it has the most evil looking evil creatures
The normies can't handle the grim darkness of 40k
Axeyn it’s not the normies. It’s the Libtards in Hollywood
@@joshlarue6304 Libtards= komunist scum
Me: well I have some Knights. Those big mech suits.
Normie: cool stuff.
Me: and I love kriegers who will nuke your fucking home and grind you to Death in their own blood.
Normie: eeeee
Me: but I absolutely ADORE torture, flaying people alive and drugs obsessed dark eldar who will eat your heart in front of you watching and screaming for hours.
Normie: REEEEEEEEEEE
What happens is that they cannot imagine a “good” society without their political agendas
In the grim future there are only normies
No 40k in 40k?
*Adjusts Commissariat hat*
"Ready to charge the enemy sir"
Charges las rifle
Commissar!! Do your duty!
"Bayonets fixed and read as I always keep it sir." o7
DID SOMEONE SAY DIE FOR THE EMPEROR
Hollywood: you have to retcon these things
40K fans: heresy!
"Warhammer 40k is not ready for Hollywood"
Nah, it's Hollywood that's not ready for WH40K.
Cant be anymore true.
Hollywood is not ready for my money until it exterminates the SJW stain entirely
Just slaughter Hollywood, with enough gore and corpses it Will be ready for 40k
In short: People who think they understand 40k, loudly display that they do not.
i barely know anything about warhammer 40k but got interested in the last couple months just learning about the general life of each factions and whatnot, and even i know that it's near impossible to figure everything out as literally any fanmade comic or whatever about events can be incorporated into the lore if popular enough ontop of the massive timeline in the game to play with. it's one of those universes that are constantly being added to and tweaked by both the developers and the fans, though they do keep certain things consistently grounded. the elder scrolls universe is the only other universe i can even compare it to, but TES universe is the way it is because the company is bad at keeping consistency, and not because it's very open to variation by the fans
@@Gameprojordan It is like real life. You do not know everything within the World. May think you do. Yet you don't. 40k's lore is so massive and has so many layers. That you cannot understand everything within 40k. If you did. You clearly are a genius or a super computer...which makes you an AI....and AIs are evil...*Glares*
@@Qardo Damn Abominable Intelligence!
Everyone is going to love 40k for different reasons, it's too vast a universe for that not to inevitably happen. But I love it for what it is and was drawn to it instantly because of how much it stood out from everything, even though it took almost all it's inspiration from other sources. People who want to change the universe however maybe don't actually love it all that much for what it is, and that bugs the shit out of me. When I got tired of Star Wars, I moved on and found 40k. If you tire of 40k, maybe just move on?
preach my brother/sister
40k embodies everything they fear: nationalism and memes.
40k embodies everything they fear:
Humanities slow decay into a fallen empire despite it's best efforts and even god like intervention, that can't stop the system from collapsing in on itself.
No, it embodies reality. Which is what they fear.
@Hector Lewis have you ever thought about literature in the context of the real word
@@playwars3037 the fear is that there are people that think 40k embodies reality and use it as fascist propaganda to radicalise other fans and make them hate brown people and immigrants and jews and people they deem "degenerates"
if someone falls into one of these categories or cares about those who do then it's a scary thing
@@bravetherainbow Except that I have seen no evidence of that, and so far have only seen people that label EVERY fan of WH40 "Nazis". So far there seems to only be hysteric SJW yelling the second anything is imperfect and doesn't comform to the atom to their vision of the universe.
"Even if you nuked everything, some of the lore would still be alive" *Happy Krieg noices*
@@mute_psycho697 "No signs of life? Keep shelling."
Septagonbullet
Ofcourse. Nothing must remain except crates in the ground if there is any ground left.
"Journalist": Reads the first paragraph in the imperial of man wiki. "Well, I think I've done enough research time to write".
If they read any further they might risk learning something.
Knowledge is heresy anyway so he did the right thing
@@valance10 wrong, to not learn of His most glorious and divine Majesty is a sing of idiocy barely tolerated in the Imperium; the Schola Progenium has the responsability to educate every human into becoming decent subjects to the Emperor.
To not worship Him is grounds for heresy, for every action, no matter how horrible is justified if it's done to serve His Imperium
Space Marine: Doing what needs to be done.
SJW: glorifying facism!
Inquisitor: HERETIC!
Me: nobody expected that.
Commissar: /shots fired
The Warhammer universe is so far removed from politics it's toxic to SJWs.
A space marine does not choose to be a facist!
As demon-spawn do not care for the politics of its next meal.
Facism doesnt protect. God-emperor protects.
@Theant19 I welcome our power-armored overlords. Emperor protects.
@Theant19 My armor is contempt. My shield is disgust. And my sword is full of memes.
@@condotiero860 Always angry, all the time!
When an inquisitor condemns a whole planet to Exterminatus he may give the order with a stoic face but inside he is filled with rage,sadness and self hatred
Even space marines can be conflicted, just look at DoW, Gabriel angelos has the consistent reminder of exterminating his homeworld not because he wanted to, but because he was forced to and it still haunts him
The Imperiun commits atrocities because they have to, if they wish to survive.
Hardly anyone on the decision-making level of the Imperium cares about good or evil, theyre just ensuring humanities survival.
"Some may ask if I have the right to end ten million lives. Those who understand realise I have no right to let them live."
@Imperial Judesmen138 Actually, you might be surprised at that. Now, Inquisitors have been heavily indoctrinated for years to the point where they will probably still believe that blowing up the whole planet was just a matter of Doing What They Had To Do, but unless the Inquisitor in question was already a sadist and/or psychopath, they would probably feel at least a little internal conflict about it. We spend a long time 'breaking' soldiers to the point that they're willing to kill people, but even then PTSD among soldiers who've killed is pretty common, and while most of them soldier on and don't let it stop them doing their duties, a fairly large chunk of soldiers suffer some degree of mental trauma (admittedly some of that is from the general stress of seeing your friends die and/or being in life-or-death scenarios, but killing people is surely a big part of it too). It may be 41,000 AD, but human nature is still human nature. I wouldn't be surprised if most of those who order Exterminatus feel at least some residual guilt over it (though in fairness, it's well known that the psychological impact of killing is much lessened if the victims are anonymous, so that might help).
Today’s citizen: so are you guys using democracy?
Hive city citizen: is that a food?
Inquisitor: prepare for summary execution
Skull Probes. You can never have too many skull probes.
Techpriest: Beep-boop.
No offence to that writer, but if you're getting your morality from TV and films then you have issues.
Now now, you should make sure you mean offence at it for he deserves it for his stupidity.
@@CThyran good point lol.
"40k is not ready for hollywood"
Thats because hollywood can't do it justice.
xRaalx Astartes is living proof of this
Wait till they learn Vulkan is only black cause of the way his geneseed reacts to Nocturne's atmosphere.
Dark-skinned people are only black cause of the way their genes react to the Solar system's sun.
These clowns don't even know that Vulkan exists.
@@nikoslav They definitely don't know that Vulkan lives, either. But no matter what, make sure they know that Cadia stands, and that the planet broke before the guard. :P
@@Schwarzvogel1 vulkan lives! stomp stomp stomp
“40k isn’t ready for Hollywood” more like “Hollywood isn’t ready for 40K”
Great Heresy spreads thru Hollywood, probably it is finally time to purge the unclean!
“There’s no-rebellion resisting this regime”
The Ordo Hereticus: *collectively looks up from the tome after tome of recorded (and ended) rebellions* “Are you sure about that?”
The Death Korps of Krieg: “If there were no rebellions, we wouldn’t be here, or be this cool”
Also the Imperium isn’t presented as “right” (even if it is, praise the emperor), it’s presented as necessary, as an regime that must be accepted because they way the universe is established, anything but the Imperium would spell total annihilation for all of Humanity.
@TomeOfBattle What do you reckon: phaser rifles>lasguns or lasguns>phasers ? I mean in sheer quantity of weapons and users, we know who wins but what do you think about sheer firepower per weapon?
But I love Wargamer: 40k with all the cool races like the Urks, the Aldar and the Termanids.
And not to forget the Galaxy Rangers and the King's Watch.
And let us not forget everyone's favorite race to shit on: the D'oh
Xenos...
Bring on a wargamer 40k parody timeline!
@@MrSeerV yeah man games craftshop are the best
Don't EVER chase the mythical "wider audience" by taking away what made it a beloved IP. There's no guarantee that new faces will come, but it will definitely drive some of the longtime fans away!
True of literally EVERYTHING that has happened in the last few years.
That's exactly the right argument. Said another way, it's risk versus reward. Risk your already installed, core fans who love the setting for exactly what it is for an opportunity to appeal to a wider audience that may or may not pan out. Or, keep doing what you're doing, make something that will obviously work with and appeal to that already existent core fan base, and potentially gain some exposure and increase, albeit likely only marginally, that core. The first is risking everything for potentially nothing, and the other is risking nothing for potential growth. Seems like a pretty simple choice to me... But then again, you can't predict stupid.
Not being fit for Hollywood is a compliment. Few, if any, good things are
"Space Marine: The Anime."
[Excited gasmask noises]
I feel like Japan has a better chance of pulling off 40k then Hollywood does.
I mean I would trust Japan with 40k before Hollywood
That would be amazing, 40k meets fist of the North Star, or berserk? Yes please!
Juaggu productions id rather a bit more of Legend if Galactic Heroes, action, politics, scheming, variety of cast from across society.
Just set it as a serial about a crusade to forge a sector from wild space.
@@reverendrico5631 I could go for that! 😉
We shall fortify 40k From all attempts at it becoming more 'Mainstream safe'.
We're going to need more Heavy Bolters though..Maybe a couple Lascannons...A new Powerfist for some of the newer Battle Bruva's...But we can do this.
*Ork Attack Moon pops into orbit*
_"Oi! Save some of the fight for us will ya? Da boyz iz gonnu krump dem "mainstream safe" gits roight proppa I sayz!"_
*[WAAAAGH!!! intensifies]*
Gideon N did some one say fix bayonets and die for the emperor
I'll get the Lasguns
Not yet, soldier. Our artillery unit is in need of some practice.
Gokbay ill get the shovels and gas masks
"In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war."
The Emperor was a unifying and pure force for mankind, bringing humanity to the galaxy as one of the main forces. After the Emperor you can see the problem with humanity and religion in a sense. Humanity believes in him as a God, and they're willing to kill and die for him. There are very few plot arnor characters so there's not many chances for one hero to follow, instead it's on a grand scale where one hero matters less than a whole chapter or regiment.
And with no romance or side stories it's strictly for people that like the galactic war side of sci fi. It also goes into logistics quite a bit, so it's not for a younger audience that doesn't care about logistics.
In the grim darkness of the modern internet, everything is fascism
40k, like Battletech and Heavy Gear, has been ready for the silver screen for quite some time. It's Hollywood that's been dragging it's ass.
Hollywood is so shortsighted when it comes to appealing an audience. They want to make a movie that EVERYONE would want to see. And yeah...uh...how about just make a movie that fills a target audience. You know. Would anyone ever go see a PG-13 version of Nightmare on Elm Street? Or Friday The 13th? Or how about this. A PG version of Jaws? Yeah. No. I haven't even scratched the surface. I could go on.
As I see it. Make a damn movie, keep it within a budget, if it does well, BOOM! Proof it! If not. Well, there is always the Blu-Ray market and Digital Sells. Or do one better. Skip the fucking movie theater and take it directly to Home with Digital Movie services.
Yeah fuck that. No way are they turning Kerensky and Hans into beta cucks and romano the victim hero.
The entire point of 40k is that its gritty and that noone is the good guy.
Sounds like heresy but ok
“Some of the lore would exist even if you nuked everything” *inquisitor Draco smiles*
NO. WE NEED NO MORE SEWER GOBLINS
@@HippoKing.MP3 Ian Watson... Sewer goblin *_EXTRA-ORDINAAAAIIIRRRE..._*
Chomplet King *inquisitor Draco lust for genestealer ass intensifies*
Just look at the expanded universe of Star Wars. People will make canon what they think is good canon. And the "new trilogy" is not canon, no matter what Disney says. And if GW make WH40k go woke, people will reject the new canon and just play by the old rules and lore.
Normies: this looks interesting.
*space marine curb stomps an eldar into a puddle*
Normies: *confused screaming*
*Space Marine gets sliced in half by a damn bug*
Normies: *even more screaming*
@@shamrockshnake1366 bug: *gets corrupted by slennesh*
Normies: *never stop screaming*
@@aiden4917 *Tzeench looking at screaming normies* :all acording to plan
Whispers to normie....Google demonculaba while giggling.
now i just want them to make a movie going over the deamonculaba and seeing if the normies ever stop applying for PTSD disability.
30K Imperium: Roman empire
40K Imperium: HRE (aka medieval feudalism incl the strong political position of the church in it and all the ills that come with it)
both cranked up to 11
11? Try 1000
@Jarl William It borrows some stylistic elements from those but in its functionality/structure it's fundamentally different.
@Jarl William It does have political commissars(USSR element) but the reason I counted those as stylistic element is that they do not contribute to the political/governmental decision making process. We don't see(as far as I am aware) a single party rule who sets micromanaging long term economic plans(maybe the mechanicum does idk) and justifies itself by claiming to represent the "liberated" working class. Instead, we see a hierarchy of semi autonomous appointed rulers who claim to rule by divine right and a parallel/independent administration of the church with its own "lands"(planets) to rule.
@Jarl William The various ruling factions do not rule like communists, they rule like totalitarians, which USSR commies were. Totalitarianism was and is not unique to Stalin and his ilk.
Not ready for Hollywood?
(Put the hand away from the Exterminatus button)
Maybe there is salvation yet...
When it happens: Did I just hear "ready for Hollywood?" ruclips.net/video/IEGo41443iI/видео.html
You just have that thing in your coat don't you Inquisitor?
Listen Hollywood has problems with South Park they even had problems with GoT.
In reality 40k is GoT times 40k.
Holy Emperor... that's... that's... 1,600,000,000!
"Change everything people love about 40k and people will love it!"
Thats... thats an interesting argument, gotta say...
Seems to not be working for Star Wars; so... what could go wrong here?
@@randlebrowne2048 preach BROTHER preach
The Imperium is neither good nor evil.
It is an entity of billions struggling to stay alive within an uncaring galaxy of xeno's.
Trillions you mean
Don’t forget What defeat at the hands of chaos will mean, eternal suffering at the hands of warp predators who existence is predicated upon the concepts of pain and slavery of the soul and body, just look at shit like the daemonculaba
@@hunterskidmore1672 quadrillion. terra alone have trillion .inperium have 100 k plus hive world
Shane Grimes Quintillions live on Terra. Hive worlds are a thing with pops of 20-100 billion and they make up a good percentage of planets under the Imperiums rule.
@@bruhguy2356 Humans are the one resource the imperium has in abundance.
They want to turn 40K into Star Wars...
Don't let them.
Star Wars and Warhammer 40k are about as different as Age of Sigmar and Lord of the Rings. Trying to make either one into the other is a terrible idea, even in small scale.
"It might be too much for a general audience" The fact that there are countless opinion pieces talking about how 40k needs to be modernised or that it is fascist etc, shows that it is already too much for some.
The only problem is that these people who are writing these are the ones who wish to act as gatekeepers of the Ministry of Truth's lists of approved content.
Well,the thing is that 40k IS extremely fascist,but it was done in purpose,thats the fun of it,it is edgy to the point of being ridiculous. Like WW1 warfare and cavalry charges on an hyper futuristic setting, the empire is as fascist as it gets because grimdark is not meant to be taken completely seriously.
@@feelthepony The problem is it isn't fascist. It is more akin to the type of feudal autocracy that was common through the majority of Human history because at a fundamental level it works as a means of consolidating power without having to have a fully competent ruler. This is why Dune, CoDominium and other Sci-Fi settings have used similar governments as a basis for their universe's government, it is a believable model. It mihgt not be meant to be taken seriously but it can be if you want because it makes sense both thematically and based on observations of human behaviour.
iñigo montoya >40k is fascist
You don’t know what fascism is.
D&D told stories of Good vs Evil:
Are you aware of any alignment beyond Chaotic Good?
There was a reason why they dumbed down the alignments in 4e ... and this was rejected.
I am Neutral Evil, been looking out for #1 since level 1... LoL
I would sacrifice a thousand SJW's to see 40k done into anime.
Mind you, I'd sacrifice a thousand SJW's just because.
Danny Eccles I guess it's more blood for the blood god
Vision of Escaflowne. It's basically an anime taking place on a feudal Knight world. There's even a bit where they call the Mechanicus to help repair a mech that's centuries beyond their world's level of technology (giant spaceship, men in robes and cybernetics). The resemblance is uncanny.
Well California is starting to lool like Nugle's garden more and more. So I find it better Warhammer doesent fit in there
Wolf Warrior And Alabama continues to be a den for Tzeentchian mutations.
No, if it was like Nurgle's garden then you'd enjoy the filth.
"D&D is a story about good vs evil"
My Players Kill Count: Innocents-Genocided a few races and inhabited planets in custom campaigns, reign of terror as vampire overlords; Baddies-As many trash mobs as I can throw at them, 8 BBEGs. This doesn't balance out as you can see. Then again 1 village of innocents = 1 evil dragon; to balance out the alignment points scale
Me: Yeah D&D is a game about good vs evil. About how many good people you can kill as opposed to bad people.
My current campaign is a dystopian society where humanity rules over all other races with an iron fist while fighting a war with powerful beings from a northern continent. The players are non-humans and I have encouraged them to engage in morally dubious or outright illegal activities to get around in the campaign. They work in a crime syndicate and do bad things. In the campaign's universe they would be considered thieves, rebels and terrorists but in the real world they would be considered heroes for rebelling against whatever people see them rebelling against.
My point being for D&D and the main topic, 40k, is that good and evil are interchangeable and neither universes define it specifically because those moral systems are malleable to both verses and shouldn't be interpreted from our viewpoint but the viewpoint within the respective universes which (typically in D&D's case) is morally ambiguous.
If I let my entire party die for a load of pot bread, then became a literal god and remade the universe using Bard music... Does that count as -my- killcount or the monsters who I helped by blinding them with bad music?
@@Dogmelter42 I suppose it would be from your DM's perspective but if had to give my opinion, I'd say the monsters got the kill and you just happened to assist in the death of your party. Let's go with assisted kill and since you killed your party over food your alignment is Gucci. After all, food=not starving therefore indirectly murdering your party to "not starve" is a neutral action.
Also becoming a god and remaking the universe with Bard Magic sounds f*cking badass. I think you just gave me an idea for a new BBEG for my current campaign.
@@JonStormr np brother. That was a highly freeform session with a lot of homebrew. My bard was surprisingly neutral. He just chilled around, eating drugged bread and somehow surviving the campaign through sheer luck and technicalities. My DM wasn't very strict, so killing a giant gelatinous cube with salty pot bread was hilarious and the group was extremely chill. Doesn't help that the campaign was a prequel so everyone dying wouldn't work with the flow.
My DM: tells how alchemists make potions from living mages that make a person more powerful and grant eternal youth, with a side affect of soul addicted to drug and madness.
Me and other players, as mages: fight regime by stealing, killing, kidnapping, making zombies, summoning demons, eventually drinking potions ourselves. We are chaotic, stronger a lot (still dust in an eye of a skilled drinker), teammate posessed by demon.
Tell everyone we are lawful good. Kill those who doubt (if we can).
I kill dwarves with lutes for fun.
*"Real Satanism has never been tried before. It's quite funny, actually."* -Styx 2019
Clank.
Evangelicalism is in my opinion akin to Satanism, with a venier of godliness and theological rhetoric to coerce the sheeples it hooks.
lol Styx just convinced himself it's not satanic if it doesn't accept LaVey's parody of fundie propaganda as its ultimate teaching.
@@FazeParticles It certainly seems that you can't tolerate others freedoms that don't match your own version of understanding; by your veiled hinting that you think those you view as immoral, cognatively limited or unable to be, should be your domestic assistants, workers or slaves - if I guess too far close to the bone of your meaning.
Either that, or you're just trolling by AH
@@razor1uk610 i only tolerate freedom if you're responsible. you can't have freedom otherwise. also why would i be trolling?
Yet another bout of Tau propaganda stinking up our Vox comms.