I ordered one of these in January and it finally arrived at the end of May. Mine is a SWB Low Roof XLT, loaded in the front. The main difference in mine is that it is a turbo diesel. Fully loaded I get 25+ MPG, 20ish in the city. I have been through 9 cargo vans since I started my company, 5 Astros and 4 k1500/2500s, and I must say that THIS is the BEST one, so far. I will turn 7000 miles tomorrow and enjoying every mile. I also did something different with rear shelving/storage. I went with the brand new Sortimo by Knapheide. It is the MOST customizable and best fitting on the market. The ABSOLUTE best bulkhead available. I did buy larger than recommended shelving and cut them down with simple hand tools. I too have the same problems/complaints with the front storage, doors swinging, etc. But it being a Ford I enjoy a MUCH better ride with no aggravating rattles, SUPERIOR A/C, and outrageously better turning radius! Say what you want, Chevy is re-branding Nissans, of all things, and selling that trash! They have fallen WAY behind in this market and will never be a player again. They are falling behind Ram in truck sales and are soon to be #3.
I have 2 transit 350 eco boosts High top. Absolutely love them. We do 100% service and they are amazing for that. We get a lot of snow usually and that’s about the only down fall so far. Don’t have the 4x4.
ok i would like to point out 2 things , as i never seen barn doors on a van on the side. I think the problems you pointed out come from the fact that they dont exactly engineer the can to have these barn doors normally. And then filling the fuel tank. Did you say the problem is when you top it off?. The thing is you should not do this. There is a airgap in the fueltank that you will fill up by triggering toping it off when the tank is full, by topping it more up you can cause evap-system engine mangament problems on some make and model vehicles , So it is a bad habbit that should be Abandoned. You know, like stuck in there ways ... i think you mentioned that in one of your videos.
Haven't had any mechanical issues besides normal wear and tear. Replaced brakes twice and tires once. Had a ball joint go but they did it under warranty because it failed in an unusual way and was deemed defective. Dealer mechanic said it's only been the second one he's replaced. One slight annoying issue is that sometimes I get water on the passenger side floorboard from the AC on really humid days. It's a known flaw with this.particular year and there is a fix. Also there is an open recall for drive shaft couplings. No permanent fix as far as I know just a standing get it replaced every 30k. I've had it done twice.
@@Halligan142 ok. My boss is having me choose between a 65k chevy 2500 and a transit 250 with 70k miles. Rhode island tech here, I like your vids thanks.
@@mikerefrigeration5736 If you're doing a lot of city driving I'd choose the Ford. Super easy to parallel park compared to the E series and I'm assuming the Chevys are on par with that.
I have the 350 148” extended high room 3.2 diesel 2017 here in us. Have been driving it since September 2017. No complains on the transit. The only thing is the bottle jack. I took it out once and I never put it back in the same place. It’s a stupid design. Also to lift up the rear of the van is insanely hard and takes u half a day. But other than that no complains. Had to use the jack one time in 3 years.
The Hvacr contractor I work for is slowly transitioning to Ford transit vans. 2 in so far. My service manager got the first one. He couldn't get the extension ladder back on his van. He had to get a special ladder rack installed. He is about 5 feet 7, but could whip my 6 feet 2 260 pound butt with no problem. The guys were also complaining about the small gas tank. Only holds 20 gallons. They are always having to refill. I like my 2010 Chevy express van for now. Maybe I will get into a Transit someday. Nice video Halligan142. You tell things as they are. No pc bs on your videos.
Yeah gas tank is getting to be annoying sometimes. We're mostly in-state so I average maybe 100-150 miles on a normal day. Usually have to fill up twice a week. The other van I could easily get by with a week or more depending
I am surprised I got one on 5-1-17. Had 5000 miles on it. No storage space between the seats now. I got a 6 inch by 2 feet metal bin installed between the seats, not enough, keep my biller and a vendor list in there. It rides nice and accelerates great. I got after market cruise control and security system, Python. Electronic dead bolts on back and side doors. More refrigerant racks and there is more bin and floor storage. My service manager got the deluxe model. Vey nice. Right, on the gas tank. I never drive less than 100 miles per day. 3 times a week you have to fill up.
Just subscribed; I appreciate your honesty about your opinion on this van; that been said, I just got fired and will start my own small business as a home security camera home systems, I need to buy a used “working van”, it would be my “office and Warehose 😅” for all intended porpoises; would you advise me on which cargo van model and year should I be looking for that would meet requirements for ladders on top, shelves & storage spaces? Your inside set up would be a good choice for storage, would you share where may I buy a metal shelving and storage unit like that one to install in my future van. My sincere apologies, I know I’m asking a lot from you, the thing is that I’m putting life savings into this small business and need all the advice and help I can get... those red plastic shelves would also be of great use to me if you would advise where to buy them. Hope you would help, Just by posting this video you already have. May God Bless You.. 👌🏻🙏🏻👌🏻.... is there a contact number to reach you? Happy holidays Jay
You'll have to look at vans yourself and see what size fits your needs and budget. I can 100% say stay away from the Ram Promasters. We had nothing but trouble with ours and I know 2 other people that have them and they're in the shop more than they're on the road. Ford E series has been around forever and they've made a million of them. You can probably get.one that already has the shelving in it. If not look at Adrian steel shelving. There's all kinda of configurations you can get. The basic package is a contractor package. You can get these at tons of outfitters and installed or you can order online and install yourself. If you're needing ladder racks I'd go more towards aluminum than steel. Steel ones will rust and you'll get streaks on the truck. If you buy a new van the dealership will have an outfitting program and interior shelving allowance usually.
For the barn doors on the van, get a set of straps and hooks from a jeep door...Screw the hooks in to the door and pillar, then you`ll have positive stops for the doors !
I see you have Adrian Steel shelving in your van, could you share your opinion on it? I've been looking at the offerings from them, Ranger, American Van, and Kargo Master for the Transit. Just not sure about the cutouts at the bottom, I get that it allows you to put a piece of plywood wood in there but my concern is the stuff that would live under there rolling out. However, with that said I keep going back to look at Adrian, looks like quality stuff, adjustable shelving, and the ability to shift the whole shelf unit forward or aft has value. Thanks for posting this video and have a good one.
I keep mostly bulky items on the floor and strapped in. Adrian has by far been the best to hold up. We had them in all of our Astros. I had one e-150 with Leggit and Platt (black color) shelving that sucked. My only problem with adrian is that the small parts drawer units are all plastic now. They used to be all metal. If we'd known we'd have stripped them out of our old vans and kept them.
They're looped through and tied off. Either the cord has to break or the cord needs to pull out of the ball. I've gotten into a head on crash in an Astro van with them tied like that and they stayed. Some racks have chains, but they make a racket and the clasp always turns the wrong way.
Realizing there's no 100% safe way to stow and transport these in a vehicle I was just curios as I can imagine that if one got pierced you would probably have issues breathing.
You skipped over the awesome v-belt selection you have on your van! What else are you hiding from us? :-) Over-all it's looks like a decent van, comparing the old that you're used to against the new isn't always a fair comparison but I do get where you're coming from. Our old trucks were Chevy's (which I'm a fan of) but the new ones are Ford. Hate to say I like the new Fords better but I haven't compared against a new Chevy. Either way, I've adapted myself to it so I'm sure you will too.
15 vs 22 combined MPG gas vs diesel according to sticker so not too different. Diesel is also more expensive than gas, and is generally more expensive to repair at least here in the States. Also as far as I know they dropped the diesel engine as an option in 2020. Usually unless the van is going to be idling for hours on end or you use it in hauling something and really need the torque, most people choose gas.
Yeah I don't know what the deal is with Ford down the hall in the interior design department , but they are and continue to be stuck in a rut for the last 15 years. For whatever reason, perhaps its because the same minds are at the helm, the always seem to dismiss the details of the interior or their cabs, Escapes, transit and connects seem to be the biggest culprits of having lack of space, leg room with appropriate steering wheel reach. They drive really well, but Ford if you ever listen to your customers, time for a regime change in R&D Interiors. Your team is roached.
really makes you wonder how high are the interior design engineers? Its as if they design an interior but have never driven a car. 2016 ford escape is the same way. car drives great but there isn't a damn play to put anything.. except in front of the display screen. smoke another one ford.
Vinny'scummin Have one. Absolute piece of trash. Not just ours either. Almost everyone I've talked to that has one has the same issues. Within 5k miles the transmission exploded. We've gone through 3 sets of brakes and rotors. It's about to be on its 3rd set of tires. Headlight bulbs die at least every 4 months. Rear door electric locks stopped working plus a bunch of other electrical gremlins. That's what you get for buying a Fix It Again Tony.
Halligan142 my father has 2 15s 2 16s and has 3 17s not a single problem with them, one of the 15s has a little over 120,000 miles and the other 15 just got over 100k. One 16 has 74,654 as of 8:30pm and the other 16 has 73,216 as of the same time yesterday. And all the 2017 has a little over 20k. The only thing we did was oil every 5,000 miles and breaks.
Most of your bitching was petty crap that can easily be fixed. All I heard when watching this is wah wah wah. Be thankful you have a work van and a nice one at that. I would have loved one of these when I did CATV work. Instead our boss stuck us with the Nissan vans, the small ones. Now those were POS. I went through 3 vans in one month because they kept having mechanical issues. By the way, the back up cameras is not an option, it is federally mandated on all vehicles made after 2018.
Dude u really are a half cup empty type of guy. I hope u don’t act like that at work, I would fire u the first day if u were my employee and complain so much. I have a 2017 148” extended high roof 3.2 diesel in US and have been the best van for the past 3 years. U complain about little things that don’t mean a thing. The roof rack, U or ur boss should have not cheaped out on the rack and invest a bit more where u don’t have to bungee the ladders all the time.
Pointing out flaws in a product that you basically live in for 8-12 hrs a day is not complaining. Yes they may be small flaws but ergonomics and comfort is a big thing when you’re driving a couple hundred miles a day. The van is mechanically better than the E series it replaces. No front end issues or spark plugs seizing in the head or randomly popping out of it. It does eat rear brakes. The ladder racks on this one suck. It’s all that they had in stock unless we wanted to wait. All our other vans have Adrian steel racks with a roller bar. Still having no gutters is annoying in the rain as is having to open your door to open the gas tank especially if you go to a full serve station. No van is perfect if I could I would combine Mercedes power train and interior with this suspension and with dodges rear box and overall length. If you equate pointing out flaws and my opinion on a product as complaining then I wouldn’t want to work for you.
Ford is pcs of shit, like why don’t these car companies talk to real world tradesmen and see what we all want and need... I’ll never buy a PCs of shit, these companies are going to have to do better to get money... Ram is a lot nicer interior
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Great video! Some key points were highlighted that I hadn't heard anyone else discuss. Thank you!
I ordered one of these in January and it finally arrived at the end of May. Mine is a SWB Low Roof XLT, loaded in the front. The main difference in mine is that it is a turbo diesel. Fully loaded I get 25+ MPG, 20ish in the city. I have been through 9 cargo vans since I started my company, 5 Astros and 4 k1500/2500s, and I must say that THIS is the BEST one, so far. I will turn 7000 miles tomorrow and enjoying every mile. I also did something different with rear shelving/storage. I went with the brand new Sortimo by Knapheide. It is the MOST customizable and best fitting on the market. The ABSOLUTE best bulkhead available. I did buy larger than recommended shelving and cut them down with simple hand tools. I too have the same problems/complaints with the front storage, doors swinging, etc. But it being a Ford I enjoy a MUCH better ride with no aggravating rattles, SUPERIOR A/C, and outrageously better turning radius! Say what you want, Chevy is re-branding Nissans, of all things, and selling that trash! They have fallen WAY behind in this market and will never be a player again. They are falling behind Ram in truck sales and are soon to be #3.
Make a video on your van, I’m interested in the diesel version!
ive never seen any of your videos before but before you even opened your van doors, i knew you were hvac. great video
I have 2 transit 350 eco boosts High top. Absolutely love them. We do 100% service and they are amazing for that. We get a lot of snow usually and that’s about the only down fall so far. Don’t have the 4x4.
ok i would like to point out 2 things , as i never seen barn doors on a van on the side. I think the problems you pointed out come from the fact that they dont exactly engineer the can to have these barn doors normally. And then filling the fuel tank. Did you say the problem is when you top it off?. The thing is you should not do this. There is a airgap in the fueltank that you will fill up by triggering toping it off when the tank is full, by topping it more up you can cause evap-system engine mangament problems on some make and model vehicles , So it is a bad habbit that should be Abandoned. You know, like stuck in there ways ... i think you mentioned that in one of your videos.
Hey halligan would you reccomend this truck now after having the truck for a few years?
Haven't had any mechanical issues besides normal wear and tear. Replaced brakes twice and tires once. Had a ball joint go but they did it under warranty because it failed in an unusual way and was deemed defective. Dealer mechanic said it's only been the second one he's replaced. One slight annoying issue is that sometimes I get water on the passenger side floorboard from the AC on really humid days. It's a known flaw with this.particular year and there is a fix. Also there is an open recall for drive shaft couplings. No permanent fix as far as I know just a standing get it replaced every 30k. I've had it done twice.
@@Halligan142 ok. My boss is having me choose between a 65k chevy 2500 and a transit 250 with 70k miles. Rhode island tech here, I like your vids thanks.
@@mikerefrigeration5736
If you're doing a lot of city driving I'd choose the Ford. Super easy to parallel park compared to the E series and I'm assuming the Chevys are on par with that.
I just bought one of these vans and I’m wondering how I’m going to tie down 20’ pvc pipes if the mounting points only go about half way to the van.
I wish my van had the window screen it comes in handy for hanging stuff
I have the 350 148” extended high room 3.2 diesel 2017 here in us. Have been driving it since September 2017. No complains on the transit. The only thing is the bottle jack. I took it out once and I never put it back in the same place. It’s a stupid design. Also to lift up the rear of the van is insanely hard and takes u half a day. But other than that no complains. Had to use the jack one time in 3 years.
The Hvacr contractor I work for is slowly transitioning to Ford transit vans. 2 in so far. My service manager got the first one. He couldn't get the extension ladder back on his van. He had to get a special ladder rack installed. He is about 5 feet 7, but could whip my 6 feet 2 260 pound butt with no problem. The guys were also complaining about the small gas tank. Only holds 20 gallons. They are always having to refill. I like my 2010 Chevy express van for now. Maybe I will get into a Transit someday. Nice video Halligan142. You tell things as they are. No pc bs on your videos.
Yeah gas tank is getting to be annoying sometimes. We're mostly in-state so I average maybe 100-150 miles on a normal day. Usually have to fill up twice a week. The other van I could easily get by with a week or more depending
I am surprised I got one on 5-1-17. Had 5000 miles on it. No storage space between the seats now. I got a 6 inch by 2 feet metal bin installed between the seats, not enough, keep my biller and a vendor list in there. It rides nice and accelerates great. I got after market cruise control and security system, Python. Electronic dead bolts on back and side doors. More refrigerant racks and there is more bin and floor storage. My service manager got the deluxe model. Vey nice. Right, on the gas tank. I never drive less than 100 miles per day. 3 times a week you have to fill up.
In the UK we'd have probably a 2 litre turbo diesel in a van that size. And I've never seen side barn doors on a van over here - always slide doors.
But you have the steering wheel on the wrong side... ;)
And we have a factory 4x4 option here in the uk.
Just subscribed; I appreciate your honesty about your opinion on this van; that been said, I just got fired and will start my own small business as a home security camera home systems, I need to buy a used “working van”, it would be my “office and Warehose 😅” for all intended porpoises; would you advise me on which cargo van model and year should I be looking for that would meet requirements for ladders on top, shelves & storage spaces? Your inside set up would be a good choice for storage, would you share where may I buy a metal shelving and storage unit like that one to install in my future van.
My sincere apologies, I know I’m asking a lot from you, the thing is that I’m putting life savings into this small business and need all the advice and help I can get... those red plastic shelves would also be of great use to me if you would advise where to buy them. Hope you would help, Just by posting this video you already have. May God Bless You.. 👌🏻🙏🏻👌🏻.... is there a contact number to reach you? Happy holidays
Jay
You'll have to look at vans yourself and see what size fits your needs and budget. I can 100% say stay away from the Ram Promasters. We had nothing but trouble with ours and I know 2 other people that have them and they're in the shop more than they're on the road. Ford E series has been around forever and they've made a million of them. You can probably get.one that already has the shelving in it. If not look at Adrian steel shelving. There's all kinda of configurations you can get. The basic package is a contractor package. You can get these at tons of outfitters and installed or you can order online and install yourself. If you're needing ladder racks I'd go more towards aluminum than steel. Steel ones will rust and you'll get streaks on the truck. If you buy a new van the dealership will have an outfitting program and interior shelving allowance usually.
Tks a lot for your advise.., I will stay away away of that van model... God bless! Happy Holidays
For the barn doors on the van, get a set of straps and hooks from a jeep door...Screw the hooks in to the door and pillar, then you`ll have positive stops for the doors !
I like the step bumper
Bought a sprinter. No issues. Great truck.
How about install more ladder racks on top but put unistrut on the under side?
I have T250 mid roof and the steering wheel is telescopic. Maybe you can pull it closer.
It’s out as far as it can go
I am getting one on 5-1-2017 to move into. I will let you know what I think of it.
It must of sucked
But I drive one as a company van and it’s a good van just didn’t like the door locking system and the radio does better on AM. LOL
Great run down on the van.
I see you have Adrian Steel shelving in your van, could you share your opinion on it? I've been looking at the offerings from them, Ranger, American Van, and Kargo Master for the Transit. Just not sure about the cutouts at the bottom, I get that it allows you to put a piece of plywood wood in there but my concern is the stuff that would live under there rolling out. However, with that said I keep going back to look at Adrian, looks like quality stuff, adjustable shelving, and the ability to shift the whole shelf unit forward or aft has value. Thanks for posting this video and have a good one.
I keep mostly bulky items on the floor and strapped in. Adrian has by far been the best to hold up. We had them in all of our Astros. I had one e-150 with Leggit and Platt (black color) shelving that sucked. My only problem with adrian is that the small parts drawer units are all plastic now. They used to be all metal. If we'd known we'd have stripped them out of our old vans and kept them.
Thanks for the info. Take care and have a good one.
If it is 130 WB can you store at cargo 10 feet long conduits?Thanks
I can fit it diagonally. It will all depend on the style of partition you have and where in the van it's mounted.
The company I started working for uses 427a it's a drop in for r22
Very interesting, thanks.
At 5:30 under the steering column there's a hole. Doesn't it hide a Lever for Tilt/Telescopic steering?
He said he has it pulled out
RJParker oops missed that part.
How secure are those refrigerant cans in the event of a crash ?.
They're looped through and tied off. Either the cord has to break or the cord needs to pull out of the ball. I've gotten into a head on crash in an Astro van with them tied like that and they stayed. Some racks have chains, but they make a racket and the clasp always turns the wrong way.
Realizing there's no 100% safe way to stow and transport these in a vehicle I was just curios as I can imagine that if one got pierced you would probably have issues breathing.
You skipped over the awesome v-belt selection you have on your van! What else are you hiding from us? :-) Over-all it's looks like a decent van, comparing the old that you're used to against the new isn't always a fair comparison but I do get where you're coming from. Our old trucks were Chevy's (which I'm a fan of) but the new ones are Ford. Hate to say I like the new Fords better but I haven't compared against a new Chevy. Either way, I've adapted myself to it so I'm sure you will too.
I love Ford but as I can see they make junk too. cool video!
No cruise control??
Not in this one. My new one has cruise and bluetooth.
@@Halligan142 Excellent, couldn`t imagine not having cruise.
That is major crap fuel economy
Good
410, 407c, 404a, 134a.
Must be an A/C guy 😜
why you yanks using petrol in europe all vans diesel and that van in europe does 30 to the gallon diesel
15 vs 22 combined MPG gas vs diesel according to sticker so not too different. Diesel is also more expensive than gas, and is generally more expensive to repair at least here in the States. Also as far as I know they dropped the diesel engine as an option in 2020. Usually unless the van is going to be idling for hours on end or you use it in hauling something and really need the torque, most people choose gas.
😂😂
turn off the airbag
If u don't like the passanger
Yeah I don't know what the deal is with Ford down the hall in the interior design department , but they are and continue to be stuck in a rut for the last 15 years. For whatever reason, perhaps its because the same minds are at the helm, the always seem to dismiss the details of the interior or their cabs, Escapes, transit and connects seem to be the biggest culprits of having lack of space, leg room with appropriate steering wheel reach. They drive really well, but Ford if you ever listen to your customers, time for a regime change in R&D Interiors. Your team is roached.
Tune up your resume. unless you own the company.
Hate the radio and the damn locking system
really makes you wonder how high are the interior design engineers? Its as if they design an interior but have never driven a car. 2016 ford escape is the same way. car drives great but there isn't a damn play to put anything.. except in front of the display screen. smoke another one ford.
Gotta tell you man, too many negs for me to buy one. Just my O.
The man is a half cup empty type of dude. I got the 350 148 extended high roof 3.2 diesel here in US and the best van ever. No complains.
poor layout! I need to do one myself. My Promaster is RIGHT!
Good luck. Ours is an absolute POS.
pretty sure I just ran into you at Johnstone In Medford I was In that blue Cullen truck
Charlie D'Alleva
Ha! Yup that was me.
Halligan142 small world huh
excelentes materiales
Should have gotta the ram promaster.
Vinny'scummin
Have one. Absolute piece of trash. Not just ours either. Almost everyone I've talked to that has one has the same issues. Within 5k miles the transmission exploded. We've gone through 3 sets of brakes and rotors. It's about to be on its 3rd set of tires. Headlight bulbs die at least every 4 months. Rear door electric locks stopped working plus a bunch of other electrical gremlins. That's what you get for buying a Fix It Again Tony.
Halligan142 my father has 2 15s 2 16s and has 3 17s not a single problem with them, one of the 15s has a little over 120,000 miles and the other 15 just got over 100k. One 16 has 74,654 as of 8:30pm and the other 16 has 73,216 as of the same time yesterday. And all the 2017 has a little over 20k. The only thing we did was oil every 5,000 miles and breaks.
Try the diesel Promaster, it was much better than the gasoline one, good vid.
Dark Vctry My coworker has the diesel version, he has had nothing but problems.
I love my promaster
Most of your bitching was petty crap that can easily be fixed. All I heard when watching this is wah wah wah. Be thankful you have a work van and a nice one at that. I would have loved one of these when I did CATV work. Instead our boss stuck us with the Nissan vans, the small ones. Now those were POS. I went through 3 vans in one month because they kept having mechanical issues. By the way, the back up cameras is not an option, it is federally mandated on all vehicles made after 2018.
Dude u really are a half cup empty type of guy. I hope u don’t act like that at work, I would fire u the first day if u were my employee and complain so much. I have a 2017 148” extended high roof 3.2 diesel in US and have been the best van for the past 3 years. U complain about little things that don’t mean a thing. The roof rack, U or ur boss should have not cheaped out on the rack and invest a bit more where u don’t have to bungee the ladders all the time.
Pointing out flaws in a product that you basically live in for 8-12 hrs a day is not complaining. Yes they may be small flaws but ergonomics and comfort is a big thing when you’re driving a couple hundred miles a day. The van is mechanically better than the E series it replaces. No front end issues or spark plugs seizing in the head or randomly popping out of it. It does eat rear brakes. The ladder racks on this one suck. It’s all that they had in stock unless we wanted to wait. All our other vans have Adrian steel racks with a roller bar. Still having no gutters is annoying in the rain as is having to open your door to open the gas tank especially if you go to a full serve station. No van is perfect if I could I would combine Mercedes power train and interior with this suspension and with dodges rear box and overall length. If you equate pointing out flaws and my opinion on a product as complaining then I wouldn’t want to work for you.
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Another incomplete Ford vehicle.
Ford is pcs of shit, like why don’t these car companies talk to real world tradesmen and see what we all want and need... I’ll never buy a PCs of shit, these companies are going to have to do better to get money... Ram is a lot nicer interior
I wouldn't have one of these. Sorry you have to put up with it Your company buyer bought price, not utility.
These vans are far from cheap