🇿🇦 MIXED RACED WEDDING IN SOUTH AFRICA | American Couple Reacts "Mixed-Raced Wedding Ceremony"
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in the Zulu culture, the celebrations can go up to 10 days but over different periods of time, so lets say over a span of 8 months, because there are a lot of rituals that need to be performed, first from the sending a letter to convey interest in the lady(the letter is sent to her family by his elders/uncles), then the lobola negotiations take place, then umembeso (gift giving from grooms family to brides family), ukucimela (bride going to inlaws, so her family celebrates her), umbondo (bride arrives with groceries to grooms fam, to be a trial daughter inlaw and to learn grooms family traditional customs) and then finally after a few weeks/months, umabo (bride gifting the grooms family). All of these customs are done with celebrations at every point.
I was just about to say what you have covered, it's not 10 days straight but over a period of time, starting from the point when the letter is sent.
True, well put 👏👏👏
True. It's not 10 days straight. Even the lobola is not on the same day as the wedding. It might even be multiple days if they don't reach an agreement
Ngiyaqala ukuzwa ngelencwadi eyandulela umcelo😁
That's why I'm gonna marry an American 😂😂😂 I don't have time for all that.
Calm down everybody.
Beautiful video. If you find your soulmate lucky you. Nobody should be able to judge that. Live your best live. That’s what you wish for everyone. But 10 days of party, that’s a lot 🎉
We wouldn't party for the rest of the year! I'd tell everyone to rewatch the wedding footage for holidays 😅. African wedding culture is like no other! Love it!
In Southern African countries partying for days is nothing because we celebrate every day.
Congratulations to the beautiful couple. Our weddings takes 1-3 days depending on the family. Definitely not 10 days.
They’re definitely overdoing it a little!!! The uncles were a little thirsty
It can be 10 days if the couple is trying to squeeze in *everything* ...which they do these days. Sometimes they do umembeso and specific family rituals *and* wedding stuff consecutively. Then it takes ages.
congratulations to the bride and groom this is soo beautiful. in Tunisia we have similar customs to South Africa. we also have dowry (mahr) and we celebrate the wedding for 7 days and 7 nights lol
Delegates for negotiation of lobola , uncles the ones who get involved with negations and nguni's (Zulus and Swati woman) can be expensive when it comes to lobola
A beautiful tradition indeed..As an elder in the family, just two weeks ago I was negotiating lobola for my cousin.
More common now. I'm of Indian descent married to a white guy✌🇿🇦 no white wedding or Indian wedding. Just registration and then a huge reception...approximately 1000 people🤣🤣🤣
It also depends on the family and tribe. It might not be 10 days.
We'd love to see what they did on each day. And by day, is it only a few hours or the entire day?
@@TheDemouchetsREACT That's my tribe the Pedi's, we speak Sepedi and there is no 10 days partying at all. The wedding starts on friday evening untill Sunday evening. Friday evening is just the singing and dancing untill early hours in the morning. The wedding will take place at the bride's house on Saturday. Then on Saturday evening after all the dancing the groom is prepared to go to her inlaws for good. There are certain rituals that are performed when the bride is taken to her inlaws. We prepare a sour pap, deep fried kitchen and we put lollipops all over it and that goes with the groom to her inlaws. The bride will be covered with a blanket from head to toe when she is taken to her inlaws because the inlaws must not see her that night untill the folliwing morning of the second leg of the wedding. Some family members will accompany the groom with singing and dancing and will also sleep with the bride in the same room that night. The following morning at the groom's place, the pap and the chicken will be eaten by the groom, bride and both their families to cement their relationship as inlaws. The same dancing that was done at the bride's place will continue at the groom's place the whole day on that sunday and then it's done. I am hearing 10 days for the first time.
The lobola((dowry) part takes place before the wedding. The groom will inform his family of his intentions to marry and send his uncles to the lady's house to make known his intentions to marry their daughter. They will then give them the day in which they should come to pay the lobola and the price. They will also require items such as the coat for the uncle, the blanket for the grandmother, the hat for the uncle etc. Basically they must give gifts to the bride to be 's family culturally. Our culture is very beautiful.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this for us.😁
@@TheDemouchetsREACT You are welcome Fam 😊
Wedding celebrations took as long as one could also because couples did not go out of their villages to go on honey moon, at most if the couple was from different close villages..the party could be takes to the other village for celebrations..and as there were no written invitations..it gave time for those that were not notified in time or that were sick on the first day of the marriage to still be able to participate in the celebrations at a later date.
The same tradition is practiced in Zambia I paid 7 cattle in monetary form . loving the video ❤️😀
Southern or eastern province?
Funny Debra Patta the journalist was also married interracial.
Guy's you fun to watch thank you so much for putting us out there as Africans in Africa. I will like to see you guys reacting to SA car spinning I promise you, you will be amazed by what we can do with the car in SA
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Car drifting in South Africa is the amazing stuff i ve seen😋
❤️🇿🇦❤️ went to an evening of short films put on by UJ film shool for women's day a few years back. One was a role reversal where the woman, who was already working, went to negotiate lobola for her student boyfriend. As a white South African it was interesting and humorous. Will try find title so won't spoil the ending. 😊
Great video guys. I hadn't really heard of the 10 days celebration though😄. Thankfully, interracial marriages are no longer frowned upon like before, people should just be left alone to make their own choices.
É cultura e ninguém deve negar sua identidade e suas raízes...
The whole region has the same custom. From Zambia all the way to Madagascar. And it's R10.000 per cow
I have a family member who started their wedding last year November and its still happening. There is a lot of work in South African weddings lol
😂😂
10 days?! I’m also from the Sepedi speaking tribe and I was like: 10 days?! Sheeesh!!! 😅 That’s definitely new to me.
Don't forget that in Sepedi, the celebration start with "go kokota". In Setswana it start with "Patlo". From there is the whole week of preparations, like brewing of traditional beer, and on a day before mostly is slaughtering and venue prepation. During all this days, people come, dance sing and eat. After the negotiations the groom is then sent to her new family, and there are rituals to be performed. The next week, the uncle continues with the celebration where he prepare for eating of the cow's head "oja tlhogo". This days, before the wedding, there is bridal shower and bachelor's party. After the wedding, the is eating of cake. 10 days is actually nothing.
I think they mean the back and forth of the negotiations, which is usually months. I think because he is from England?? They squeezed it into 10.
@@jabulanithema1467exactly!!❤
Quick history lesson. Did you know that the women parenting (Debra Patta) has a black exhusband. She has a daughter from that marriage, Even nelson mandela attended their wedding.
True, my friend’s uncle!!🤣🤣🤣
A lot of interracial marriages happen in Nigeria. It is more sensational though in South Africa because of their history with apartheid in the past
02:15he wanted to kisss her so badly but I think I see her body say “not here not now” 🤣🥰
The groom being white they are not bothered by public display of affection, not in the Black culture, we mostly keep that in the bedroom 😂.me and my fiance, I mean our parents have never seen us Kiss and it's normal.
@@kagontleserutle5775 exactly! But at least the groom respected 😂
Debora Patta is now a CBS anchor?! 🎉 Well done, girl!! She definitely deserves it… Grateful she doesn’t have that fake American accent yet, but the apartheid pronunciation… Come on now Debora, you are South African 😂
Lobola is not ur worth but how the grooms family thanx and welcomes the bride in to their family
This is a lot of work. Congrats to them.
It's not a Ten day Celebration.
the wedding celebration is actually 2 days..
but there are lots of preparation leading up to it.
Let me break it's down.
depending on what culture you are , but we follow similar processes.
step 1: the Groom sends a letter to the brides family to request a hand in marriage and a date for Lobola negotiations is set.
2. Lobola negotiations take place.
brief explanation Lobola is not just about Dowry. The maximum number of cows actually is 11 cows.
and each cow has a significance.
1 is for the brides father , 1 for the brides mother, 2 for the ancestors ( wife's family and husbands family signifying the union),
2 if the lady is a virgin without kids (signifies purity and how well kept she has been), the other 2 are for the King depending on the area they are from , the rest are a gift to the family which is thanking them for the woman they raised for u.
11 cows is the highest form of honary for a woman to get. this signifies how well she kept she was for her husband.
Education generally doesn't play part in the negotiations because it's the parents responsibility to make sure their child goes to school.
The theory about Lobola interms of African proverbs. Says a man can not appreciate, protect and provide for something / or someone he has not worked hard to get and a woman can not respect a man who can't demonstrate his ability to provide and protect by taking her hand in marriage. hence it's a steep price to pay.
secondly Lobola is a secrate practice done to unify 2 families. Blood is spilt to join the two families interns of ancestors.
There is a ceremony done to signify the union by slaughtering 2 cows and using the animals gull to dress both the bride and groom. this is an unbreakable bond.
once that is done u are officially married actually. this ceremony takes place on a separate day. usually only attended by the family members, we don't want any bad spirits from outside.
Zulu brides are the most expensive, because there are so many customs that need to be carried out in their culture prior.
once all these customs are done, then there is the actual celebration and party.
Day1 . wedding at the brides family house. This signifies the wife leaving her family stay and going to join the husbands family as their daughter.
a cow is slaughtered. the ancestors are told that their child is going out their household and is going to grow a different family. they must be with her and make sure she births many children for that family. so it's more of a send off celebration.
Day 2:
wedding at the husbands house.
the husbands family slaughters a cow to receive the bride into their ancestral home.
the slaughtering introduces her to the husbands ancestors as a new child of the family. here she is bestowed a new name which she will go by in the new family.
We celebrate we drink we eat at weddings.
in South Africa Small weddings are not a thing. they are big.
the whole process can take about ten days. but we generally don't do consecutively.
customs and negotiations can happen in separate months in preparation for the 2 wedding days that take place
I am white British and paid lobola for my Zimbabwean wife in 1989,
Awesome reaction ...reactbto more south African traditional weddings
The journalist in this story was also married to a black man . And it was in the early days after Apartheid.So she was a good one to do such a story.
I think was a beautiful video. You see Interracial couples all the time in modern Australia. One couple I once met came to my area for a working holiday, they were picking Blueberries at a local farm. They came from New Zealand where they were living the wife was an African American originally from Colorado. Her husband was a blue-eyed blonde Norwegian. They were lovely people and I thought they looked great together. I don't think Interracial marriage was ever illegal over here. But they definitely had to deal with a lot of racists a least until the mid 80's when things definitely started changing for the better. That's when Modern Aussie Culture started and it's the racists who find themselves in big trouble. Including the legal variety. It could be extra heartbreaking if an Interracial marriage involving involving an Indigenous person ended in divorce. Unfortunately that happened in my family. My Mum's Cousin married a lovely Aboriginal Lady in around the 50's, later on he caved into some bad career advice and divorced her. There wasn't a Custody Suit, the government came and forcibly took her children/my second cousins off her. My normally forgiving Mum could never forgive him for what happened. I got to know the youngest of those second cousins of mine. He told me that by the time he was able to come back to his Mum she was prematurely grey and dying. I was in an Interracial relationship in High School I'm mainly of European Decent with some Asian. My Boyfriend back then was Aboriginal. It was the 90's.
They cramped everything in one it usually takes months
Genuine question for fellow Africans ? In Southern Africa weddings are particularly the same the lobola e.t.c is it the same customs for the rest of the continent or vary all across
It varies from tribe to tribe
Yooh 10 days of hosting people and they have to eat and drink😂😂😂 love it though but heish 10 days
Yes it takes 10 days if we consider all the steps that need to be taken before the final wedding 💒 day.
Wedding is a process. After lobola negotiations we do traditional wedding. When paying lobola either with cash or cows we have a ceremony. That's traditional wedding and as for the adults even if you don't wear a white wedding gown it's not a problem. White wedding is just a celebration and can be done in the rented venues. The process is very long ♥️♥️♥️🇿🇦
I think they said 10 days because the families get busy with preparations
Dowry it's called lobola
Nice video. Please do react to Tzaneen Limpopo videos, South Africa.
sometime just check on south africa live videos in youtube. you will not be disappointed
We make it long enough by the time you are done you don't wanna do it again 😂😂
It was probably 10 days straight...lobola straight up to traditional and western wedding... because they had to do everything at 1 go as the other family was from out of the country.
Beautiful love ❤️ ❣️ 💕
It’s 3- 4 days in Nigeria especially if you’re from Yoruba tribe. Get ready to meet almost everybody in the family of over 1000 😂
I love Nigerians I wish I could marry someone from Nigeria...I'm South African ❤️
It wasn't that she was overwhelmed by the love that's why she looked up
4:49the bride is probably Xhosa , while the groom is Afrikaans.
No she is from the Pedi ethnic group (different from nguni tribes eg. Xhosa and Zulu) and the groom is English
@Lydia Lekgari oh ok wow. OK thanks for correction.
Afrikaans is a fucking language
@@ogone1465 Afrikaaner then. As you heard the other chap say he was actually English so doesn't matter I was wrong
@Ogone Actually they do interchange Afrikaans and Afrikaaner
If you are able to, watch Fanie Fourie's Labola, you will not be disappointed.
10 days for a wedding that's the first & I'm African through & through. At the most two days not 10....
Please react to the Zulu coming of age ceremony, very interesting ceremony you won't regret it
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Same tradition in the whole Southern African countries.
W reaction 💚
Is interracial marriages that rare these day? Because I feel like I keep seeing a lot. Just this year I saw 3 just from people I know. Maybe it depends which city your in I dont know 🤷🏽♀️
Nah it's normally just 3 days 😅
🎉Zulus have there own religion and called Nazareth Baptist Church and there God name Shembe
How old is this video? Mixed race relationships & marriages are not that out of the norm anymore... Not in KZN & Cape Town anyway. Both my daughter & my niece are in cross race relationships. But they're not with balck gentlemen from traditional backgrounds, so no labola. But I have been offered 12 cows for my daughter😎
I beg to differ. It's usually two days on average.
I highly doubt it’s 10 days 🌚💀
During apartheid it was a taboo as well. We even had a law called the Immorality Act people dating across racial lines would be charged for breaking the law. People do internarry but those who have done so say they still experience looks of disapproval from especially the Caucasians. The families would be ok but extended relatives would have a problem especially if a white girl marries an African man, but if they are strong enough not to be fazed by all that they are ok.
Calculations are wrong 15 cows are more when 1cow is 10 thousand
15.000 is only equivalent to one cow...so its 15×10...
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Link to the weddings
Certain things the journalist said are untrue, maybe she was brief wrongly or i didn't understand her correctly but ilobola is not to tie family bonds but to compensate the brides family from losing a valuable "item" to the groom's family. I am sorry for labeling the bride as an item, i lacked of a better word.
As a Zulu myself we pay 11 cows for a Virgin and 6 cows to someone without a kid but no longer a virgin 4+1 cows for someone who has a kid and so forth... but to hear someone being asked to pay 15 cows, that's too much. Lastly in the Zulu culture each cow you are going to pay as a form of ilobola should be explained to you as to why you need to pay for it, to avoid being taken advantage of.
Interesting how you commodify a human being. Wow.
Actually, u are the one who got it all wrong.initially, Lobola was about the exchange of gifts between families, in the Zulu tradition at least.these gifts included things like reed mats and livestock.when Sir Theophilus Shepstone was appointed in charge of Native Affairs, he formalized and standardized the practice into a specific number of cattle.lobola was actually for the man to prove his ability to provide for his family as characterized by the popular adage " ubuhle bendoda izinkomo zayo".this thing about compensating the bride's family is modern-day trash.