Literally what I came here to comment, its like a lawyer setting up a closing argument. He's just doing the things humans are supposed to do, compliment each other and ask where they're from (he doesn't ask he instead tells her he's completely researched her). He knows how humans function on a base level, but lacks the nuance or ability to even fake interests to create bonds or relationships
@@amanthangellapally2067 He also doesn't think that, he's not dumb. He knew what he wanted and had the cards stacked in his favour so he went ahead and took it.
I can see why it is only implied later that they had sex, and never shown. That would have been the creepiest, most uncomfortable sex scene ever featured in any movie in the history of cinema.
"Now, when I say that I want these things, I mean that I want them and I don't want to have to ask again. And the last thing that I want, Nina, is for you to do the things that I ask you to do when we're alone together in your apartment, NOT LIKE THE LAST TIME."
His performance is so nuanced and interesting. When his character says things like, "I like the dark makeup around your eyes and I like the way you smell" with such flat, straightforward delivery it completely highlights Lou's lack of understanding human emotion and empathy.
better than lack of understanding, because he perceives it as a complete understanding. to us, in a weird, hypnotic way, it comes across as both at once
He objectifies her. Her makeup, her scent. It's visual, physical -- divorced from the person within. He doesn't want to get to know her; he wants to possess her.
The interesting thing about Lou is I think everyone should learn from him. Everyone should try to adapt to their surroundings and act accordingly to people, obviously not to the extent of Lou or his lack of emotional connection. But there's no denying that he's admirable to some degree. He gets what he wants through adaptation, planning and determination. Too bad he's a psychopath
@@kevinzhu6417 I sensed that she could -- and did -- cut loose with the drinks regularly when she's comfortable -- but she's not comfortable here. He's creepy but also grotesque in a way you can't turn away from. Yeah, she needs him but she's also fascinated by him as one would be by a wild animal, examining how this other organism exists within the same time and space. Still, her primate brain is screaming for her to keep her wits about her.
No way I'd feel safe drinking around him. He's so slippery and manipulative, you have to stay on your best game to spot the lies and underhanded tactics.
When you realize that Renee had all of like 6 lines in this entire scene, it's amazing to see what she was able to express and emote. Going from put off to humbled to afraid all within just a few minutes. Meanwhile Jake's character is essentially unfeeling, but masterfully played. Brilliantly done and she is unbelievable.
The nervous politeness of “One’s enough” after the cold offering of another margarita… That’s when you know she knows something’s wrong with the guy. So good.
" I like the dark makeup on your eyes and I like the way you smell." It's little lines such as this one that capture his character and his inability to be in touch with a person any deeper than something superficial. Brilliant.
I think it's interesting that Lou could probably have been made a significantly more likable protagonist if they'd given him some more suave and charm. But instead they made him so despicable and creepy. Takes balls to make the movie like they did, and it certainly paid off.
Movies that are similar to Nightcrawler (Character Study films) are : the most recent film Joker, Perfume The Story of a Murderer, Henry Portrait of a serial killer, Taxi Driver, The King Of Comedy, Raging Bull, There will be Blood, Clean, shaven, A clockwork Orange, American Psycho, Shame, Bad Lieutenant, Drive and Flight.
This is more like Little Finger than Ramsay. He's manipulating people and they realize it when it's too late, unlike Ramsay who's just torturing them. He's a smart sociopath, not a sadist who doesn't think long term.
@@Ema-fm5zy nah, he's like Roose. Littlefinger is charming, capable of love, and has emotional revenge fantasies. Roose is a proper, clever sociopath who tries emulating people because he knows that's what you need to do to rule people successfully, but everybody knows he's a creepy, dangerous fuck. His eyes, skin tone, leech therapy, milk drinking, his voice. He's a reptile and everyone can tell - like with Jake in this movie. Speaking from the books' perspective mostly since they didn't try making Littlefinger charming in the show at all.
@Ethan Hagerty are you upset because the word flirtationship is in your daily vocabulary or something lol, like what would make you so angry about a comment like that. im curious.
The only thing that makes this guys character a little unbelievable is that he is almost too good. Almost perfect in terms of his aggressiveness and his ability to get what he wants. He is a true go getter. Which leaves the question of what was he doing before? Why is he all of a sudden a master manipulator and before he was a thief?
because he's found his calling, i guess. found something he is GENUINELY motivated to do, something he relishes, he has a solid dream, a goal...and he's GOOD at it, he's in DEMAND.
He's a product of motivational speech and youtube videos of sorts. Much like his whole persona... everything is learned so he can blend in. He's a sociopath that has learned what normal people deem normal. You have to think of him like a robot that's learning. Nothing he does or says has any motivation or substance, it's a learned algorithm.
Yeah I figured the beginning what with the thieving and the "impromptu interview" between him and the foreman kinda showed some of that sociopath behavior.
Troy - I had to do this to fit in too. I wasn't fortunate enough to be given the easy life and be born with a booklet on how to socialise. Outcasted for sixteen years. I had to research and learn from others to adapt. Don't look down on people like me just because you were privileged enough to be given everything you need to do well in life from the get go.
I love the last line. It makes you understand how inhuman Lou is. No one who cares about others would say that a friend is something that you give yourself, because it gives the implication that you are in control of them.
i think that it's a perfect way of summarizing that Lou is mostly a shell of a human- but does not believe that he is. I think it's supposed to mean something about opening up to others, but coming from Lou, it sounds all fucked up
All pyschopaths are sociopaths, but not al sociopathsare pyschopaths. I'm sure Jake would nail the Joker, but I think he would be much better as the Riddler.
I remember the moment at 3:44 in the movie theater after he says “flirtationship” in that awkward way with the nervous exhale afterward and being physically revolted by it. He’s so damn good in this role it’s unreal.
tetrahedron in space would you like to go out on a date like this? I can arrange it. I like to start most dates with handcuffs and a full body examination.
@@evega312 Basically fuck your empathy, "friends" are something to be used to fulfill our own needs and interests instead of each others. He took the original meaning purposely out of context to support his proposal.
@@alyxfaust5663 Society functions as needed and able to so if we can get more of what we want by helping others then we do. If we end up serving the needs of the group sometimes we must sacrifice our own life for their safety. And the group working together can often obtain more resources then an individual working only for themselves. These are useful things to know and understand. It doesn't mean we don't value providing for our own needs and wants. We know that we have a better chance of survival within a group then we do going it alone in the world.
GOOD fucking acting! Jake really did fantastic in this movie. Come to think of it, I can't really think of any movies that he didn't bring his A game too...
@@orangewarm1 What on Earth? That's how Donnie's character is supposed to be. Lost, dazed, just existing because he lacks a purpose or any drive until he met Gretchen, she's one of the things that pushed him towards his "fate". That's what I got from the film.. idk what you mean by just existing.
God he's like an alien who's learned how to "act" like a human through watching instruction videos. It's such a crime that Jake Gyllenhaal wasn't even nominated.
perfect description of his behavior. Its like he is trying to say the right thing at the right time as per some protocol that he had memorized rather than seasoned organic interactions over decades as a normal human would.
That last line is the creepiest part of the whole thing. His view of friendship as people he decides to treat himself with based on what they can provide to him
That’s anyone else too. What kind of fun can I have with this person? How do they make me feel about myself? What do they do for a living? Who do they know? So much pettiness and vanity with people. The difference is those with self-awareness who recognize their selfishness, and those who don’t.
@mateo8120 The difference is that normal people are still aware of and value the fact that others are people too. By which I mean that they consider others' needs, wants, thoughts, and emotions as valuable and equal to/similar to their own. Whereas people like Lou do not. Other people are tools to be manipulated for self gain, and if they get hurt that is irrelevant.
Yep. He is doing a paint by numbers of how to get ahead Machivavellian style. No nuance, but he is fed up with his loser status, feels he deserves more and bending to his dark, tread upon impulses to seize his moment
This should have been the joker! Not Leto! This man right here, I never though a guy that looked so empathetic could make me feel so...so....concerned.
One of the reasons David Fincher cast Gyllenhaal as Robert Graysmith in 'Zodiac' was because the director observed "an interesting double-sided" quality in the actor, having seen him in 'Donnie Darko'. I think that quality is most apparent in this film.
This scene is incredible. Beginning with jake looking like a complete loser and nina in complete control to the tables totally flipped.Nina terrified and Lou so effectively blackmailing her for sex. Early on in the film they seemed to be two equally shitty human beings but this scene showed lous level of coldness was a complete cut above of the rest
He didn’t blackmail her. He gave her an ultimatum. Blackmail is give me what I want or I’m gonna rat you out. That wasn’t the case here. But other than that I agree with your analysis.
Nina's equal coldness is revealed towards the end she knows Lou is manufacturing his stories by killing people yet the success is too good to turn him in
I just watched this on AMC and noticed they cut this scene from the movie. I have no idea why, and I’m so pissed off because it’s possibly the most important scene for their characters.
I was watching it too on there like 2 days ago. That's why I looked it up on here. It felt so short. I remember thinking these 2 obviously liked each other and it was strange how the movie didn't explore it more. Now I learn that they actually did, and they just cut the clip out. Such a great scene which really gives a lot of depth to his character and personality. I wonder what else they cut out.. I'll have to watch the full movie.
I love how in this scene (and a lot more ones from this movie) you can clearly appreciate how a psychopath manipulates other people, how he's basically saying "you're nothing and if you want to become someone you have to join me", so that they become a couple, work together and then he can manipulate her a lot easier and use her as a tool to reach his goals (like he did with Rick), but luckily Nina is someone really hard to convince and won't get seduced by him, she probably knows how that would end
the way that lou intentionally reacts , acts - and works when with this woman - you can / see / the gears in his head turning , slowly . like he’s not even doing this out of impulse , but he’s doing this with a calculated and motivated sense of jurisdiction . he KNOWS / exactly / what he is doing so he can get exactly what he wants . the DEFINITION of a sociopath . he’s / flat / - downright monotonous throughout the whole conversation . you can see exactly how he’s playing this woman into getting what HE wants .
In today's work, due to the scarcity of resources and people's greed, this kind of situation is quite common; in universities, government agencies, businesses. Humanity is going backwards to the predator creature in the beginning.
Small things like how he moves his bottom lip to the side while he talks in this and how he blinked randomly with facial ticks in prisoners is why he makes characters so believable qhen we all know who we're watching. I never zone out and forget I'm watching actors like this
To understand this film you need to know that Gyllenhal’s character is the personification of big business. Corporations. The way he thinks and acts is a representation of how big business does. Apathetic, Analytical, doesn’t care about others unless it benefits him. Jake fucking nailed it. Such an underrated film. Nightcrawler and “There Will Be Blood” are essentially the same film.
just to clarify, Lou is a psychopath. a psychopath has strong feelings only for power. a sociopath has no feelings whatsoever for anyone else but themself. "Some experts see sociopaths as “hot-headed.” They act without thinking how others will be affected. Psychopaths are more “cold-hearted” and calculating. They carefully plot their moves, and use aggression in a planned-out way to get what they want."
I think the original comment is speaking to the fact that Lou seems closer to reality than Bateman. Patrick Bateman is the Superman while Lou is the everyman. A true life sociopath would watch a film like "American Psycho" over and over to copy that film but when they applied it in the real world it would look and sound more like "Nightcrawler."
Rene Russo's acting matches with her splendid beauty. Jake's artistic talent is beyond superb and Dan Gilroy directing is amazing. A great film for sure. I don't want to forget abour Riz Ahmed who performed his role magnificently.
I saw this in theaters and kinda forgot about it over the years. This hits different having seen some in-depth analysis of the film. Lou is terrifying.
When I first saw this scene, it creeped me out. But now that I've seen the movie several times, I have to say that it's kind of funny. I mean, Lou's puppy eyes and not-so-innocent smile, and the way he thinks this isn't a big deal + Nina getting bombarded with red flags, slowly realizing what's going on. And that last sentence takes the cake. XDDD
My favorite film now and always, the basic idea of this scene and Lou is that for him being alone for a long time was something he was used to and didn't mind, however meeting nina has changed him rather than being fine being alone Lou now looks for a companion and thinks of Nina as this companion, I love how he perfectly describes living a life of solace with his quote "there are a few good things about being alone, you have time to study and do the things you want to do but you can't have dinner like this" and I think that quote reflects him very well, as while for a time he was happy being alone doing things he liked. However he noticed he longed for a companion and not knowing any other women beside Nina she was the one he loved.
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Jake's acting is beyond belief good. He's like a different organism in this film.
yeahhh is insanely intimidating thats great!!!like heath did to the joker just mind blew
Hard work equals great results .. It's simple . Dedication to the craft .
Alex Stein He put alot into his role. Lost alot of weight to look like a "hungry coyote" and he memorized every line in the script.
When I first saw it I was blown away by his portrayal of a sociopath. He was very believable, not cartoonish.
He's ok
It's hilarious how he compliments her as if he's marking off boxes on a checklist lol
Checklist? All ticks for that scene.....
Literally what I came here to comment, its like a lawyer setting up a closing argument. He's just doing the things humans are supposed to do, compliment each other and ask where they're from (he doesn't ask he instead tells her he's completely researched her). He knows how humans function on a base level, but lacks the nuance or ability to even fake interests to create bonds or relationships
No that's a bad interpretation of understanding people who are socially awkward. Its just simply him being awkward
thats exactly what it is. He rehearsed all this beforehand
@@moxiemaxie3543 hahahahaha. no. He is a psychopath
The disturbing thing about this scene is that in Lou's mind he probably thinks he's being a hopeless romantic.
no it isnt
@@amanthangellapally2067 He also doesn't think that, he's not dumb. He knew what he wanted and had the cards stacked in his favour so he went ahead and took it.
@@KandiKlover i just hated the way he generalized the character
Nah
i dont get it, that made me tear up so beautiful the way he crafts words to elicit sexual favors, it was like poetry
I can see why it is only implied later that they had sex, and never shown. That would have been the creepiest, most uncomfortable sex scene ever featured in any movie in the history of cinema.
Damn the first time I watched this I was really hoping there wasn’t going to be a sex scene with them two
"Now, when I say that I want these things, I mean that I want them and I don't want to have to ask again. And the last thing that I want, Nina, is for you to do the things that I ask you to do when we're alone together in your apartment, NOT LIKE THE LAST TIME."
I'd like to see that! 😂
Probably didn't happen cause the director is married to the actress here
@@RShadow12
Omg I was thinking the same lol.
His performance is so nuanced and interesting. When his character says things like, "I like the dark makeup around your eyes and I like the way you smell" with such flat, straightforward delivery it completely highlights Lou's lack of understanding human emotion and empathy.
better than lack of understanding, because he perceives it as a complete understanding. to us, in a weird, hypnotic way, it comes across as both at once
He objectifies her. Her makeup, her scent. It's visual, physical -- divorced from the person within. He doesn't want to get to know her; he wants to possess her.
@GENESIS both for different reasons
The interesting thing about Lou is I think everyone should learn from him. Everyone should try to adapt to their surroundings and act accordingly to people, obviously not to the extent of Lou or his lack of emotional connection. But there's no denying that he's admirable to some degree.
He gets what he wants through adaptation, planning and determination. Too bad he's a psychopath
@GENESIS nothin personell kid
Jake Gyllenhaal plays a very good sociopath in this movie.
Gilbert Rivas psychopath
MeMelonTV This dude is a robot. Born psychopath, lol.
pyschopath****** he doesnt seem to have any sense of sympathy
He's playing roles that suit him.
you mean some sociopath played a very goof jake gyllenhaal in the movie
she really should have taken that second margarita.
i feel like he wanted her drunk so she could be easily manipulated
@@kevinzhu6417 I sensed that she could -- and did -- cut loose with the drinks regularly when she's comfortable -- but she's not comfortable here. He's creepy but also grotesque in a way you can't turn away from. Yeah, she needs him but she's also fascinated by him as one would be by a wild animal, examining how this other organism exists within the same time and space. Still, her primate brain is screaming for her to keep her wits about her.
Dude that made me laugh hard! Bet they purposely did that so we could think that
I logged in just to say props on making me laugh my ass off
No way I'd feel safe drinking around him. He's so slippery and manipulative, you have to stay on your best game to spot the lies and underhanded tactics.
Jake Gyllenhaal is so damn good, this scene makes my skin crawl.
But does your skin NIGHTcrawl?
-_-
headbite alien Then he must be black i guess
I hate it when my skin crawls, it crawls over to the fridge and helps itself to a drink and won't bring one back for me :(
SiliconBong jaja funny matte.
Tried to ask a girl out this way, got pepper sprayed and slapped.
Lmfao
These lines only work on 60+ year olds, as is the case in the scene.
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When you realize that Renee had all of like 6 lines in this entire scene, it's amazing to see what she was able to express and emote. Going from put off to humbled to afraid all within just a few minutes. Meanwhile Jake's character is essentially unfeeling, but masterfully played. Brilliantly done and she is unbelievable.
Helps her husband wrote the script so she probably had a lot of conversations about it
The nervous politeness of “One’s enough” after the cold offering of another margarita… That’s when you know she knows something’s wrong with the guy. So good.
i agree, there's something about their performances that are so explicit to me, like you can feel what they think
@@lucad6649 no
" I like the dark makeup on your eyes and I like the way you smell." It's little lines such as this one that capture his character and his inability to be in touch with a person any deeper than something superficial. Brilliant.
Yeah... Such a good lines to write for that beautiful movie to those talented actors... Simply superb.... Always grateful....
I think it's interesting that Lou could probably have been made a significantly more likable protagonist if they'd given him some more suave and charm. But instead they made him so despicable and creepy. Takes balls to make the movie like they did, and it certainly paid off.
*Louis.
He's not a friendly charming guy, other people are just a means to an end for him
Not sure what you mean. I find him creepily charming
Movies that are similar to Nightcrawler (Character Study films) are : the most recent film Joker, Perfume The Story of a Murderer, Henry Portrait of a serial killer, Taxi Driver, The King Of Comedy, Raging Bull, There will be Blood, Clean, shaven, A clockwork Orange, American Psycho, Shame, Bad Lieutenant, Drive and Flight.
@@nox5870 thabkr you
This guy would do just fine in Westeros
House bolton would be honor to have him
I don't think him and Ramsay will get on very well.
This is more like Little Finger than Ramsay. He's manipulating people and they realize it when it's too late, unlike Ramsay who's just torturing them. He's a smart sociopath, not a sadist who doesn't think long term.
@@TheLeondude he would be Ramsay’s camera man
@@Ema-fm5zy nah, he's like Roose. Littlefinger is charming, capable of love, and has emotional revenge fantasies. Roose is a proper, clever sociopath who tries emulating people because he knows that's what you need to do to rule people successfully, but everybody knows he's a creepy, dangerous fuck. His eyes, skin tone, leech therapy, milk drinking, his voice. He's a reptile and everyone can tell - like with Jake in this movie.
Speaking from the books' perspective mostly since they didn't try making Littlefinger charming in the show at all.
His facial expressions in this are awesome to watch, great actor.
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His eyes
Yeah.... Natural acting.... Both on that scene.... With those beautiful lines....
This guy really said “flirtationship”
@Ethan Hagerty what the...
@Ethan Hagerty incel detected
@Ethan Hagertysuch weirdly misplaced hostility
@Ethan Hagerty Please come back and cry more, we miss you LOL
@Ethan Hagerty are you upset because the word flirtationship is in your daily vocabulary or something lol, like what would make you so angry about a comment like that. im curious.
The only thing that makes this guys character a little unbelievable is that he is almost too good. Almost perfect in terms of his aggressiveness and his ability to get what he wants. He is a true go getter. Which leaves the question of what was he doing before? Why is he all of a sudden a master manipulator and before he was a thief?
He was probably a murderer on the run tbh. He seems like the type.
because he's found his calling, i guess. found something he is GENUINELY motivated to do, something he relishes, he has a solid dream, a goal...and he's GOOD at it, he's in DEMAND.
He's a product of motivational speech and youtube videos of sorts. Much like his whole persona... everything is learned so he can blend in. He's a sociopath that has learned what normal people deem normal. You have to think of him like a robot that's learning. Nothing he does or says has any motivation or substance, it's a learned algorithm.
Yeah I figured the beginning what with the thieving and the "impromptu interview" between him and the foreman kinda showed some of that sociopath behavior.
Troy - I had to do this to fit in too. I wasn't fortunate enough to be given the easy life and be born with a booklet on how to socialise. Outcasted for sixteen years. I had to research and learn from others to adapt. Don't look down on people like me just because you were privileged enough to be given everything you need to do well in life from the get go.
"I want that with you, like you want to keep your job and your health insurance"
Giggity.
He perfectly explained to a woman how much a man needs sex.
And he highlighted how deeply most women care about things which make them feel safe, like health insurance and the money from a job.
@@KandiKlover awwl'riight.. 👍
Good writing right there
"you can leave"
*doesn't leave*
So Frigga and Mysterio used to work together, huh? Weird.
He says that knowing precisely that she can't and won't. Another tactic to gain the upper hand.
@@PurtyPurpleshe can, but doesn't
"you can leave" and lose your job
i thought that was pretty obvious
Fun fact: For Jake’s role in this movie, he wanted to look skinny and lost weight so he could resemble a hungry coyote
And in the end!
Jake Gyllenhaal killed this performance!
how did he lose the weight though extreme dieting or help with diuretics stimulents? etc
@@roxannemua9350 i dont think he lost extreme weight, he just lost weight. Typical diet without sugar and more cardio
@@Gerox566 Yea sorta. lost about 30+ lbs on a diet of Kale and Chewing Gum, and running about 15 miles a day from what I read
Well, he did just that.
I like how they turned the most charming good looking guy and made him play a complete crazy guy
I love the last line. It makes you understand how inhuman Lou is. No one who cares about others would say that a friend is something that you give yourself, because it gives the implication that you are in control of them.
i think that it's a perfect way of summarizing that Lou is mostly a shell of a human- but does not believe that he is. I think it's supposed to mean something about opening up to others, but coming from Lou, it sounds all fucked up
I wish he played the joker instead of letto
Nah, jokers a psychopath. Jake plays a sociopath well.
Versp. 1 Anyone but Leto.
draco malfoy joker's both and also both psychopath and sociopath have similar characteristics in a way and would fit for an actor like Jake
I think he'd be an awesome Joker, but Suicide Squad movie was a disaster and Jake deserves a better movie.
All pyschopaths are sociopaths, but not al sociopathsare pyschopaths. I'm sure Jake would nail the Joker, but I think he would be much better as the Riddler.
this movie changed the way i see news in a video, online or on tv
Good; It should.
That was one of the purposes of this movie.
We’re waking up.
This movie has very little to do with real tv. It's fiction. That's why they skipped it on Oscars for example.
This is 4 years late but if you want to see a real life version of this check out "shot in the dark"
I remember the moment at 3:44 in the movie theater after he says “flirtationship” in that awkward way with the nervous exhale afterward and being physically revolted by it. He’s so damn good in this role it’s unreal.
tetrahedron in space would you like to go out on a date like this? I can arrange it. I like to start most dates with handcuffs and a full body examination.
@@donvandamnjohnsonlongfella1239 that's funny to take part.... Part of the day would be busy dealing with funny side of the brunch....
6:12 Jake’s smile at the end gave me chills. I honestly think it’s Norman Bates levels of creepy.
I never quite got that quote before the smile though.
@@evega312 Basically fuck your empathy, "friends" are something to be used to fulfill our own needs and interests instead of each others. He took the original meaning purposely out of context to support his proposal.
@@ryanpalmer19 You act like all humans aren’t self serving and when the chips are down and we have to fight for resources, we won’t.
@@alyxfaust5663 Society functions as needed and able to so if we can get more of what we want by helping others then we do. If we end up serving the needs of the group sometimes we must sacrifice our own life for their safety. And the group working together can often obtain more resources then an individual working only for themselves. These are useful things to know and understand. It doesn't mean we don't value providing for our own needs and wants. We know that we have a better chance of survival within a group then we do going it alone in the world.
"like you wanna keep your job and health insurance"
LOL
GOOD fucking acting! Jake really did fantastic in this movie. Come to think of it, I can't really think of any movies that he didn't bring his A game too...
Donnie Darko - he just exists in that film.
@@orangewarm1 What on Earth? That's how Donnie's character is supposed to be. Lost, dazed, just existing because he lacks a purpose or any drive until he met Gretchen, she's one of the things that pushed him towards his "fate". That's what I got from the film.. idk what you mean by just existing.
Lee Lorenz that was kinda Jakes breakout role.... you have no idea what ur talking about
Lol for me donnie birthed the kind of jake we know today which is a very good actor.
Lee Lorenz he was great in Darko. Played the character to a T.
God he's like an alien who's learned how to "act" like a human through watching instruction videos. It's such a crime that Jake Gyllenhaal wasn't even nominated.
perfect description of his behavior. Its like he is trying to say the right thing at the right time as per some protocol that he had memorized rather than seasoned organic interactions over decades as a normal human would.
"A friend, is a gift you give yourself." - Lou Bloom
That last line is the creepiest part of the whole thing. His view of friendship as people he decides to treat himself with based on what they can provide to him
His character is the embodiment of capitalism.
That’s anyone else too. What kind of fun can I have with this person? How do they make me feel about myself? What do they do for a living? Who do they know? So much pettiness and vanity with people. The difference is those with self-awareness who recognize their selfishness, and those who don’t.
@@mateo8120 Damn sounds like women🤣
@mateo8120 The difference is that normal people are still aware of and value the fact that others are people too. By which I mean that they consider others' needs, wants, thoughts, and emotions as valuable and equal to/similar to their own.
Whereas people like Lou do not. Other people are tools to be manipulated for self gain, and if they get hurt that is irrelevant.
1:32 The creepy brief smile after "Thanks for coming out to talk", hahaha. Gyllenhaal's acting is so awesome
Nah his “you can leave” line was too convincing
She should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actress
I thought so too walking out of the theater. Criminally underrated.
Nah
@@nunka34ify no
It's like he read every single self help guide in existence and interpreted them in the most wrong way imaginable.
Yep. He is doing a paint by numbers of how to get ahead Machivavellian style. No nuance, but he is fed up with his loser status, feels he deserves more and bending to his dark, tread upon impulses to seize his moment
''Nina , Tonight is the 2nd night of the week. You know what that means
Stop fooling around''
Man Donnie Darko grew up weird
Good joke but the fact that he actually died at the end of the movie ruined it for me
@@codybolo7803you don’t get that that’s actually a good thing ?
The best portrayal of an actual psychopath i've seen in a while good stuff.
This should have been the joker! Not Leto! This man right here, I never though a guy that looked so empathetic could make me feel so...so....concerned.
One of the reasons David Fincher cast Gyllenhaal as Robert Graysmith in 'Zodiac' was because the director observed "an interesting double-sided" quality in the actor, having seen him in 'Donnie Darko'.
I think that quality is most apparent in this film.
I love this movie
I’m sorry but this is probably Jake Gyllenhaal‘s best movie he really nails this role Unbelievably
Such a dark ass movie. They really crushed the narcissist psychopaths psychology.
This scene is incredible. Beginning with jake looking like a complete loser and nina in complete control to the tables totally flipped.Nina terrified and Lou so effectively blackmailing her for sex. Early on in the film they seemed to be two equally shitty human beings but this scene showed lous level of coldness was a complete cut above of the rest
He didn’t blackmail her. He gave her an ultimatum. Blackmail is give me what I want or I’m gonna rat you out. That wasn’t the case here. But other than that I agree with your analysis.
Nina's equal coldness is revealed towards the end she knows Lou is manufacturing his stories by killing people yet the success is too good to turn him in
@@xro1983 no. you do not understand
So underrated.
The ‘you can leave’ comment was genius
The writing and the acting for this dialogue (Jake's part particularly) were impeccable
He should have seriously have won an Oscar!!!
I just watched this on AMC and noticed they cut this scene from the movie. I have no idea why, and I’m so pissed off because it’s possibly the most important scene for their characters.
I was watching it too on there like 2 days ago. That's why I looked it up on here. It felt so short. I remember thinking these 2 obviously liked each other and it was strange how the movie didn't explore it more. Now I learn that they actually did, and they just cut the clip out. Such a great scene which really gives a lot of depth to his character and personality. I wonder what else they cut out.. I'll have to watch the full movie.
I love how in this scene (and a lot more ones from this movie) you can clearly appreciate how a psychopath manipulates other people, how he's basically saying "you're nothing and if you want to become someone you have to join me", so that they become a couple, work together and then he can manipulate her a lot easier and use her as a tool to reach his goals (like he did with Rick), but luckily Nina is someone really hard to convince and won't get seduced by him, she probably knows how that would end
I tried to ask a girl to sleep with me like that. Im currently writing this in the hospital.
That girl was a goat and hoofed da penis.
Love how he says she can leave right after the food arrives lol.
The most disturbing thing about this scene is that this type of thing probably happens all the time.
the way that lou intentionally reacts , acts - and works when with this woman -
you can / see / the gears in his head turning , slowly . like he’s not even doing this out of impulse , but he’s doing this with a calculated and motivated sense of jurisdiction . he KNOWS / exactly / what he is doing so he can get exactly what he wants .
the DEFINITION of a sociopath . he’s / flat / - downright monotonous throughout the whole conversation . you can see exactly how he’s playing this woman into getting what HE wants .
You wanna fuck a guy like that, don't ya ;)
In today's work, due to the scarcity of resources and people's greed, this kind of situation is quite common; in universities, government agencies, businesses. Humanity is going backwards to the predator creature in the beginning.
well explained thank you for that!
Small things like how he moves his bottom lip to the side while he talks in this and how he blinked randomly with facial ticks in prisoners is why he makes characters so believable qhen we all know who we're watching. I never zone out and forget I'm watching actors like this
To understand this film you need to know that Gyllenhal’s character is the personification of big business. Corporations. The way he thinks and acts is a representation of how big business does. Apathetic, Analytical, doesn’t care about others unless it benefits him. Jake fucking nailed it. Such an underrated film. Nightcrawler and “There Will Be Blood” are essentially the same film.
No there will be blood is trash and boring as all fuck
@@beet1508 I agree with you on that. I fell asleep like 5 minutes into that movie, overrated as hell
@@jackandrews7878 I actually quite enjoyed it!
It goes even deeper - he forces himself on to Nina - who represents media. Corporation and media literally in bed together.
@@carlsagan4401 sick catch
just to clarify, Lou is a psychopath. a psychopath has strong feelings only for power. a sociopath has no feelings whatsoever for anyone else but themself.
"Some experts see sociopaths as “hot-headed.” They act without thinking how others will be affected. Psychopaths are more “cold-hearted” and calculating. They carefully plot their moves, and use aggression in a planned-out way to get what they want."
those terms are not used in academia
I've never hated a main character til this movie, great job jake
If u told me that jake is actually an alien trying to be a Human in this scene. I’d believe you. His acting is so dam good
Patrick Bateman in the flesh.
As freelancer reporter and businessman
Christian Bale was in the flesh too. And chased hookers with a chainsaw.
I think the original comment is speaking to the fact that Lou seems closer to reality than Bateman. Patrick Bateman is the Superman while Lou is the everyman. A true life sociopath would watch a film like "American Psycho" over and over to copy that film but when they applied it in the real world it would look and sound more like "Nightcrawler."
Lets see Paul Allen margarita
Deserve an Oscar nomination
Last line, whoa dude. Goosebumps.
I find myself returning to this scene on a regular basis.
It is brilliant.
This movie is underrated. Time Will show.
“Let me put this politely, I only came out wit you as a professional courtesy.”
- “ thank you”
….. summary of Lou.
This is movie is way underrated.
And you are right.
This is the best scene. Brilliant.
4:55 We pay you well...."And this gives you power over me?"
Rene Russo's acting matches with her splendid beauty. Jake's artistic talent is beyond superb and Dan Gilroy directing is amazing. A great film for sure. I don't want to forget abour Riz Ahmed who performed his role magnificently.
No matter how you cut it, he’s either one of two things- supremely talented, or a complete psychopath.
Thor's mommy & Mysterio😂
“Now *this* is an Avengers-level threat”
@@owenlewis7928 I love Jake Gyllenhaal as Mysterio. The best Spidey villain and my favorite comicbook villain. I hope he stays for Homecoming 3.
And his employee is Riot.
@@TheBlackLodger & his news rival was a member of hydra
That smile. Too much LOL
I saw this in theaters and kinda forgot about it over the years. This hits different having seen some in-depth analysis of the film. Lou is terrifying.
He was so good in this movie his character was scary, he even changed the way he walks.
Such incredible acting from Gyllenhall. One of the most underrated actors out there.
At "i like the way you smell", my reaction is "get out girl." That was your clue right there.
"...a friend, is a gift you give yourself." jesus christ
This scene made my skin crawl ugh
2:35 that "Yes" holy F. This exchange is as real as it can get. They were both magnificent.
Lou Bloom probably did research online on how to talk to girls before this date.
Even a personal relationship is just another business negotiation for Lou.
Jake was so creepy in this movie. Amazing actor!
I love this character so much, lou bloom is really
"A friend is a gift you give yourself"
-Robert Louis Stevenson
Actually that's not true Nina....
6:07 "A friend is a gift you give yourself." Spoken like a true psychopath who is incapable of genuinely caring about another human being.
sounds very much like you Patrick
@@zack8865 Patrick is very much in touch with his humanity
He’s soo calculated he’s a genius
He should’ve won an Oscar
"You can leave" 😂😂😂
When I first saw this scene, it creeped me out. But now that I've seen the movie several times, I have to say that it's kind of funny. I mean, Lou's puppy eyes and not-so-innocent smile, and the way he thinks this isn't a big deal + Nina getting bombarded with red flags, slowly realizing what's going on. And that last sentence takes the cake. XDDD
This is when the Dennis System caught on.
FUCK! IM WEAK! STOP! STOP😂😂😂
Thors mom and mysterio having dinner
Him eating is the creepiest part of the scene.
Why didn’t he get an oscar nomination for this movie.....
Excellent movie
It was
Chicks dig confident men.
Pretty sure they don’t dig manipulative lunatics like Lou though.
He’s like a Hollywood producer actually
I went from loving to being creeped out in one date. He was gold in this film
great movie, excellent acting by gylenhall.
That smile at 6:13, creepiness up to 11, Jake is a top-shelf actor.
I would be highly interested if they ever release a prequel exploring how Lou became this. From early childhood onward.
People are wired this way from birth; no-one naturally ends up this cold-blooded, calculated and ruthless through nurture.
@@marcusking8507incorrect
I think the mystery adds more to this character
All we know he could be a fking skinwalker trying to fit in.
dude is definitely a high functioning sociopath to be able to act this well
i should take notes the rizz in this movie from lou is unreal
My favorite film now and always, the basic idea of this scene and Lou is that for him being alone for a long time was something he was used to and didn't mind, however meeting nina has changed him rather than being fine being alone Lou now looks for a companion and thinks of Nina as this companion, I love how he perfectly describes living a life of solace with his quote "there are a few good things about being alone, you have time to study and do the things you want to do but you can't have dinner like this" and I think that quote reflects him very well, as while for a time he was happy being alone doing things he liked. However he noticed he longed for a companion and not knowing any other women beside Nina she was the one he loved.
Except that he can’t love. He’s a psychopath