I have pretty fond memories of melbourne in the early 90s (however 1980's variant will always be the best). How things have changed so much now and alot of it is not great either. The loss of many old buildings in the video here, too many people for the city to handle, horrible infrastructure and the list goes on?! I could also say for the first time that melbourne is not a safe city anymore, the vibe has certainly changed from what's on offer here. You always have to look over your shoulder and the people's mentality has certainly changed from the easy going, laid back mentality. I used to love going and when I watch this video?1 I still do but lets not kid ourselves to the horrible 2018 version we have now...
Yes Melbourne City has changed for the worse I agree.. It was not only safer once but it had shops that catered for things not available in the suburbs back then...Going to the city has lost its charm for me now personally
very nice, back in the good old days. Thanks for taking the time back then to record all this stuff. Good to see the W's & Z1, 2 & 3's in The Met and the A's & B's as well.
I moved to Melbourne late 1990, and this was how the city looked to me. I lived in St Kilda before it was gentrified. Hoyts cinema and Coles in Bourke St, and Daimaru opening up.
Has anybody of today noticed the turning indicators of cars could be seen from a distance at 1:06 and they weren't as bright and strange shapes as the shit boxes they nake these days? Why? Because in those day and since as far back as I remember as a kid in the 60s those were regulations. They were designed to be seen in any angle, away from the blare of the headlights and no brighter than 18 candlepower. Today, you need sunglasses when your behind any or most of the shit boxes with super bright tail lights, indicators flashing in your face that turns everything yellow inside your car. And you need a welding helmet when these bulged up tanks have brake lights on. The incredibly bright red LED lights can actually cause temporary blindness if staring at them for several seconds sand then look away in the darkness of the night and see that you have developed a halo, restricting the ability to see clearly in all situations. But, my dear friends, that's not all. Have you noticed that on a rainy night, your windscreen is smeared with bright droplets from the rain that streak into a red smear as the wiper sweep the water? And if the windscreen is covered with greasy road sludge of oil, soapy water, dust, etc., and then it rains, have you ever experiences any inability to see outside after several sweeps of wiper blades trying to wipe away all that smear of stuck moths and insects on it and then have to cope with bright LED headlights and superbright brake lights, etc., like a fkn disco? Maybe, my dear friends, maybe, as most of us can only learn by accident. So, those were vehicle safety regulations in our days. Where are those regulation today that we are swarmed by dangerous, illegal and unroadworthy vehicles? And you, my dear friends, think that those fat tanks on chariot wheels as great vehicles. Really? How so do you think these disposable and almost unrepairable shit boxes are great when cost of running them are already high, but cost of service, repair, maintenance, registration, insurance, etc., are close to sending you out of house and home. But you bought those strange and weird SUVs anyway because humans have this fixation that each want to beat the others, like beating the Jonesies. What a rich Jonesy can afford to buy an ugly army tank, so would an average man want to buy, to impress the Jonesies next door. Nobody really gives a fk about costs, because they know that the Jonesies will look. Right? My dear friends, I have been a mechanic/engineer for 43 years. I know when someone with pennies came to our workshop with a Mercedes and he couldn't pay the higher costs to maintain and service the car with 4 kids and wife to feed. When asked why he bought the Mercedes, he admitted that the neighbour next door to his house also had a Mercedes and he couldn't keep being envious, so he bought one, despite the fact that he was a local doctor he knew, a Jonesy. A year later that doctor bought a Range Rover. So, this guy came to us and traded in the new Mercedes for a less expensive car amid the embarrassment of making a mistake. How times have changed 🙄
Lightbulbs create a very different spread of light compared to LED's. They also tend to fail, so drivers constantly needed to check their cars and replace the failed lamps quickly - because if the police caught you then they would issue a ticket (fine) and possibly some penalty points were added to your driving license. Also, sometimes it was often somewhat fiddly to replace the failed light bulb - it helped if there was someone with a small hand and long fingers!
I'm trying to spot any Leyland National busses. These were the first orange busses, introduced in 1975 along with the orange Z1 trams, both being big news of the time & both now out of service.
I did see one or two Leyland Nationals, but am not sure if it was in 1988 When I had a super 8 film camera) or 1991 (when I had a camcorder) I remember the orange livery.
3 words only I - LOVE- YOU Vinicio tram enthusiast from Rome (last trip in Australia to take pics to trams in 2009-2010, w6 class trams are still on 78)
I was born in 1991 25 years ago in the United States lt was 1991 worldwide 50 states across every state city and nation I love the sound the bells glad I was in that year and born in it all us I kind feel old but I am 25 years just like 1991 wow the early 1990s cool video though and footage the began of our lives being born.
@@JohnCitizenDU Well, I liked yellow colour on all cabs. Easy to see and they were all looking smart, professional, unlike today in different colours and a large bullshit 13cabs signage on their bodies. Hard to see, even if you strained to spot one among car in peak hour traffic.
@@mickcarson8504 Some have just the numbers, I'll give that they're harder to spot now...in the old days, even with all the colours, they're still identifiable as taxis... Until the yellow fades, at least, I guess. That was pretty common as well, now not so much. The other reason you see all the different colours on taxis now is that: 1. Easier to sell afterwards (yellow is a hard sell, since everyone knows) 2. The influx of used cars as taxis (that wasn't so much of a thing during 1994-2014 due to the stricter restrictions in that period) 3. Pursuant to 2, the abolition of the old limits (7.5/10 years), 2.5 for used cars.
Sadly the hook turns at the intersection of Flinders and Swanston Sts have been removed with the partial pedestrianisation of Swanston St. One of the few scenes from this video not changed however are A class on the route 70!
+Edward Smithson Don't answer one question with another. Otherwise, I'll ask you this - why are there a "heap" of 1990s cars still on the road now even though we're in 2015?
Well, there's a simple explanation. Cars weren't cheap back then and people kept their cars longer. Also, as another commenter said, XA/B/C Falcons, HT/Q/J/X/Z Kingswoods, VE/VF/VG/VH/VJ Valiants were cheap as chips back then. Or even a 1970's Corolla/Corona/Datsun 1200, those were even cheaper, you could get one for a few hundred back then. It's the same now, just with 1990's cars these days...
Well in 1991 both my parents had Honda Legends - 1 was a 1988 sedan, the other a 1989 coupe. My grandmother bought a new 1991 Honda Civic sedan that year.
Well I wasn't around yet but from what I know, my rellies at the time (as an example), had a 1988 Toyota Corolla Liftback (scrapped a little over two years ago), a 1981 323 3-dr Hatch and a another 1985-88 Corolla Sedan. But they knew people with early Commos, XB/XC Falcons, similar era Valiants etc., it was just common to keep older cars, just like now!
I missed old Melbourne
Geez 1991 that's a long long time ago
I have pretty fond memories of melbourne in the early 90s (however 1980's variant will always be the best). How things have changed so much now and alot of it is not great either. The loss of many old buildings in the video here, too many people for the city to handle, horrible infrastructure and the list goes on?! I could also say for the first time that melbourne is not a safe city anymore, the vibe has certainly changed from what's on offer here. You always have to look over your shoulder and the people's mentality has certainly changed from the easy going, laid back mentality. I used to love going and when I watch this video?1 I still do but lets not kid ourselves to the horrible 2018 version we have now...
True, and now look at it. A total failed disaster
@@MarjjorieDawes , pretty much and we can't even visit that "failed disaster" because of obvious reasons?! Not that I'd even want too either.
Yes Melbourne City has changed for the worse I agree.. It was not only safer once but it had shops that catered for things not available in the suburbs back then...Going to the city has lost its charm for me now personally
very nice, back in the good old days. Thanks for taking the time back then to record all this stuff. Good to see the W's & Z1, 2 & 3's in The Met and the A's & B's as well.
I spent several days in Melbourne filming (mostly) the trams, and thoroughly enjoyed my time there.
@citytransportinfo Where are you from originally?
What I like in this video are the cops standing on the road, patrolling the intersections. Proud cops back then.
I moved to Melbourne late 1990, and this was how the city looked to me. I lived in St Kilda before it was gentrified. Hoyts cinema and Coles in Bourke St, and Daimaru opening up.
I wish cars stilled look like they did in 1991.
Not to mention made like they were in 1991. Their engine designs were so good and so simple.
Yep, way better than the fat tanks of today.
Has anybody of today noticed the turning indicators of cars could be seen from a distance at 1:06 and they weren't as bright and strange shapes as the shit boxes they nake these days? Why? Because in those day and since as far back as I remember as a kid in the 60s those were regulations. They were designed to be seen in any angle, away from the blare of the headlights and no brighter than 18 candlepower. Today, you need sunglasses when your behind any or most of the shit boxes with super bright tail lights, indicators flashing in your face that turns everything yellow inside your car. And you need a welding helmet when these bulged up tanks have brake lights on. The incredibly bright red LED lights can actually cause temporary blindness if staring at them for several seconds sand then look away in the darkness of the night and see that you have developed a halo, restricting the ability to see clearly in all situations. But, my dear friends, that's not all. Have you noticed that on a rainy night, your windscreen is smeared with bright droplets from the rain that streak into a red smear as the wiper sweep the water? And if the windscreen is covered with greasy road sludge of oil, soapy water, dust, etc., and then it rains, have you ever experiences any inability to see outside after several sweeps of wiper blades trying to wipe away all that smear of stuck moths and insects on it and then have to cope with bright LED headlights and superbright brake lights, etc., like a fkn disco? Maybe, my dear friends, maybe, as most of us can only learn by accident. So, those were vehicle safety regulations in our days. Where are those regulation today that we are swarmed by dangerous, illegal and unroadworthy vehicles? And you, my dear friends, think that those fat tanks on chariot wheels as great vehicles. Really? How so do you think these disposable and almost unrepairable shit boxes are great when cost of running them are already high, but cost of service, repair, maintenance, registration, insurance, etc., are close to sending you out of house and home. But you bought those strange and weird SUVs anyway because humans have this fixation that each want to beat the others, like beating the Jonesies. What a rich Jonesy can afford to buy an ugly army tank, so would an average man want to buy, to impress the Jonesies next door. Nobody really gives a fk about costs, because they know that the Jonesies will look. Right? My dear friends, I have been a mechanic/engineer for 43 years. I know when someone with pennies came to our workshop with a Mercedes and he couldn't pay the higher costs to maintain and service the car with 4 kids and wife to feed. When asked why he bought the Mercedes, he admitted that the neighbour next door to his house also had a Mercedes and he couldn't keep being envious, so he bought one, despite the fact that he was a local doctor he knew, a Jonesy. A year later that doctor bought a Range Rover. So, this guy came to us and traded in the new Mercedes for a less expensive car amid the embarrassment of making a mistake. How times have changed 🙄
Lightbulbs create a very different spread of light compared to LED's. They also tend to fail, so drivers constantly needed to check their cars and replace the failed lamps quickly - because if the police caught you then they would issue a ticket (fine) and possibly some penalty points were added to your driving license. Also, sometimes it was often somewhat fiddly to replace the failed light bulb - it helped if there was someone with a small hand and long fingers!
@@CitytransportInfoplus
LOL @ long fingers. Train a yae aye Lemur. It should fit due to its long finger.
Great stuff
I'm trying to spot any Leyland National busses.
These were the first orange busses, introduced in 1975 along with the orange Z1 trams, both being big news of the time & both now out of service.
I did see one or two Leyland Nationals, but am not sure if it was in 1988 When I had a super 8 film camera) or 1991 (when I had a camcorder)
I remember the orange livery.
not an suv or 4x4 dualcab ute to be seen. what a time to be alive
Back then you could drive through swanston st
I think Swanston walk was made the year after (1992)
Love this thanks for sharing
3 words only I - LOVE- YOU
Vinicio tram enthusiast from Rome
(last trip in Australia to take pics to trams in 2009-2010, w6 class trams are still on 78)
The era of trolley poles in Melbourne!
I was born in 1991 25 years ago in the United States lt was 1991 worldwide 50 states across every state city and nation I love the sound the bells glad I was in that year and born in it all us I kind feel old but I am 25 years just like 1991 wow the early 1990s cool video though and footage the began of our lives being born.
WOW light blue and red taxi's that's weird
Yep pre-1994, when they standardised the colour to yellow.
@@JohnCitizenDU and now they're back to shitty 'Any colour 13Cab.
@@mickcarson8504 Yellow was never all that popular, it's not surprising that once it got relaxed, you would find any colour taxi...
@@JohnCitizenDU
Well, I liked yellow colour on all cabs. Easy to see and they were all looking smart, professional, unlike today in different colours and a large bullshit 13cabs signage on their bodies. Hard to see, even if you strained to spot one among car in peak hour traffic.
@@mickcarson8504 Some have just the numbers, I'll give that they're harder to spot now...in the old days, even with all the colours, they're still identifiable as taxis...
Until the yellow fades, at least, I guess. That was pretty common as well, now not so much.
The other reason you see all the different colours on taxis now is that:
1. Easier to sell afterwards (yellow is a hard sell, since everyone knows)
2. The influx of used cars as taxis (that wasn't so much of a thing during 1994-2014 due to the stricter restrictions in that period)
3. Pursuant to 2, the abolition of the old limits (7.5/10 years), 2.5 for used cars.
this is 1991 the year I was born 26 years ago
Sadly the hook turns at the intersection of Flinders and Swanston Sts have been removed with the partial pedestrianisation of Swanston St. One of the few scenes from this video not changed however are A class on the route 70!
Sundag, you say? So that's why the bulls were chiming like they was possessed by the Devil.
Why are there so many 1970s cars?? Isn't this 1991?
+CheesyTV Probably the same reason that there are a heap of 1990s cars still round today.
+Edward Smithson Don't answer one question with another. Otherwise, I'll ask you this - why are there a "heap" of 1990s cars still on the road now even though we're in 2015?
Well, there's a simple explanation. Cars weren't cheap back then and people kept their cars longer. Also, as another commenter said, XA/B/C Falcons, HT/Q/J/X/Z Kingswoods, VE/VF/VG/VH/VJ Valiants were cheap as chips back then. Or even a 1970's Corolla/Corona/Datsun 1200, those were even cheaper, you could get one for a few hundred back then. It's the same now, just with 1990's cars these days...
Well in 1991 both my parents had Honda Legends - 1 was a 1988 sedan, the other a 1989 coupe. My grandmother bought a new 1991 Honda Civic sedan that year.
Well I wasn't around yet but from what I know, my rellies at the time (as an example), had a 1988 Toyota Corolla Liftback (scrapped a little over two years ago), a 1981 323 3-dr Hatch and a another 1985-88 Corolla Sedan. But they knew people with early Commos, XB/XC Falcons, similar era Valiants etc., it was just common to keep older cars, just like now!