"Citizen Tram" (1960s MMTB Film)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
  • FULL FILM:- This is a 1960s era Promotional Film produced by Crawford Productions for the Melbourne and Metropolitan Tramways Board.
    The film details the benefits to Melbourne of the Boards Tram and Bus services, and puts forward the case for the retention of tramway operations in Melbourne.
    This film is from the Public Records Office Victoria - Public Transport Collection.

Комментарии • 71

  • @veggiegrowerable
    @veggiegrowerable 11 лет назад +37

    I drive a truck all day in greater Melbourne, i don't mind trams one bit. Thank goodness they trams were saved.

  • @CowboyJojosAdventures
    @CowboyJojosAdventures 10 лет назад +43

    Another brilliant film promoting Trams. We are lucky to still have trams in our city.

    • @ozlass7778
      @ozlass7778 5 лет назад +6

      And the longest tram rail system in the world 🖒

  • @davidlang1125
    @davidlang1125 Год назад +6

    Sydney’s tram network was even larger than Melbourne’s but they stupidly got rid of it only to spend massive amounts of public money (not to mention the protracted disruption and road closures) to build three new lines in the last decade.
    Same in Los Angeles, which had an extensive network but ditched all of it to build freeways. And it’s been struggling to rebuild a limited light rail network in the past three decades. What a mess!
    I was lucky enough to have memories of riding on Sydney’s last trams as a kid in the early sixties. Now I fight traffic on the Santa Monica freeway.

  • @marksc111
    @marksc111 2 года назад +12

    Love the obligatory 'futuristic' monorail appearance near the end. Before Sydney built their monorail folly and we all realised that they're actually terrible for anything besides ferrying passengers between airport terminals. I think they looked cool and futuristic in urban planning mockups, so politicians hyped them without much thought.

  • @adrianjackson2696
    @adrianjackson2696 11 лет назад +13

    Yes Major General Sir Robert Risson was a great leader in the days when other cities retired their trams in the mid 20th century

  • @amadeosendiulo2137
    @amadeosendiulo2137 2 года назад +7

    3:54 You're not in traffic, you're the traffic 😉

  • @April2058
    @April2058 3 года назад +3

    Ding Ding Ding...Three Cheers for Melbourne's Trams!

  • @darylcheshire1618
    @darylcheshire1618 3 года назад +9

    The MMTB also ran Melbourne largest bus network until the ‘90s when Kennett sold the bus division to a Sydney company.

    • @tobys_transport_videos
      @tobys_transport_videos 2 дня назад

      The buses are run by numerous large companies now, all of them foreign-owned. CDC for example, are Singaporean owned, and not a nice bunch to deal with as far as Upper Management goes...

  • @DandamanV
    @DandamanV 4 года назад +9

    Melbourne understood the problem of congestion perfectly in 1960, and Sydney is still learning this lesson today. The trams should never have been taken away, it's just common sense.

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 4 года назад +6

      melbourne's rulers didn't understand the problem of congestion. they tried bloody hard to get rid of every last one of them. the public protests were so noisy the authorities had no choice but to reverse their objectives.

    • @andyrob3259
      @andyrob3259 3 года назад +1

      Sydney has a lot more sht narrow winding roads. Melbourne’s saviour we’re often wide and fairly straight roads that allowed trams and cars to co-exist to some degree although not in all areas.

    • @davidbarnes1563
      @davidbarnes1563 2 года назад +3

      @@andyrob3259 trams are more suitable for the narrow streets of Sydney than buses have been, and the tram system of Sydney had some interesting operating features which had a 'psychological' effects on patronage, which overseas transport experts didn't understand. Sydney's typical tram was a high capacity cross bench vehicle, usually capable of operating in pairs for heavy loads, with crush loading capacity per vehicle of approximately 120 people per tram , or 240 for a coupled set, 'there was almost always room for one more'.When the buses came, they were slow, noisy, uncomfortable, bumpy D/D vehicles, slower to load in peak hour than the tram and usually full after a few stop for passengers.This sent patronage down, the bus capacity being less than the tram.Lower passenger capacity meant more buses, and some potential passengers chose to buy cars instead of bus travel, increasing traffic congestion, therefore making the tram to bus conversion self defeating, despite the 'flexibility' of the motor bus. Had Sydney modernised the tram system, or gone to trolley buses, which carry more per vehicle than motor buses, the story would have been different

  • @darylcheshire1618
    @darylcheshire1618 3 года назад +8

    interesting to note that the tramways were self sufficient in the ‘60s.

  • @aoilpe
    @aoilpe 3 года назад +6

    And this video is still right actually…

  • @ctwentysevenj6531
    @ctwentysevenj6531 3 года назад +9

    Fortunately Melbourne trams are still going strong with additional lines proposed.

    • @tobys_transport_videos
      @tobys_transport_videos 2 дня назад

      There have been proposals for new or extended lines, for many years, but nothing has happened, especially since Andrews and Allen have run the show. AIRC the last extensions were to Box Hill, Vermont South, and into the Docklands. All these were around 20 years ago!

  • @traralgontowing106
    @traralgontowing106 10 лет назад +3

    This is fantastic!

  • @videbus
    @videbus  10 лет назад +11

    I'm sure the animator would have got his arse kicked for the scene at 1:11 - yes, trams drop sand for braking purposes, but they don't emit fumes!

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 4 года назад +1

      relax, mate. it was green smoke.

    • @adrianjackson2696
      @adrianjackson2696 4 года назад +3

      @@vsvnrg3263 The sand box was under one of the seat and some sand was on the floor when it was filled at the deport. The sand worked to create friction for braking between the metal tracks and the metal wheels. A simple solutions that worked on the W Class trams like in this film. I am a 5th generation Melburnian WASP (White Anglo Saxon Person).

  • @adrianjackson2696
    @adrianjackson2696 11 лет назад +7

    Melbourne - the worlds most livable city

  • @neilmansfield8329
    @neilmansfield8329 4 года назад +2

    This is good

  • @bigsiman
    @bigsiman 2 года назад

    That looks like an appearance of Crawford stalwart Carl Bleazby as Mr. Average Motorist ! A frequent actor on the great series Homicide.

    • @roydidlock1867
      @roydidlock1867 2 года назад +3

      No. His name is Telford Jackson and yes, Telford was a stalewart in many Crawford shows episodes.

    • @flavouristawithsharynlee-a914
      @flavouristawithsharynlee-a914 Год назад +2

      Yes it’s my Dad, Telford Jackson he was in a lot of the early Australian dramas like Homocide division 4, bellbird, Matlock police, prisoner etc. I’m so grateful someone sent this to me as I hadn’t seen it before. I run a Facebook page on him and was contacted there

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 3 дня назад +1

      @@flavouristawithsharynlee-a914 , your father's face is very familiar.

  • @planetX15
    @planetX15 3 года назад

    1:47 Is that Camberwell Road?

  • @hypercomms2001
    @hypercomms2001 5 лет назад +1

    The start of this film reminds me of a creepy horror movie....

    • @adrianjackson2696
      @adrianjackson2696 4 года назад +1

      Probably a Roman Catholic school.

    • @hypercomms2001
      @hypercomms2001 4 года назад

      @@adrianjackson2696 No, I was thinking of "the midwives cuckoos"....
      ruclips.net/video/-AUBlW5EWnI/видео.html

  • @jamesdavis5517
    @jamesdavis5517 8 лет назад +1

    Those bus number plates were in the J's putting it at 1966

    • @alpottle
      @alpottle 6 лет назад +1

      J's started around mid to late 1962. JBM 1962, JHN 1965, JSG 1967.

    • @ozlass7778
      @ozlass7778 5 лет назад

      My father had a '69 XT Falcon.
      And the number plates started with JZD.

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 4 года назад

      @@alpottle ,errr, later than 62. my eh was hyk 083.(her name was judith. i know, naming cars is so childish) i think the j series started around the time of the hd holdens.

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 4 года назад

      @@ozlass7778 ,you might be a year out. my neighbour got a premier in 68 and the rego started with k.

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 4 года назад

      @@ozlass7778 , you might be a year out. my neighbour got a premier in 68 and the rego started with a k.

  • @johnd8892
    @johnd8892 4 года назад +2

    Tramways boss Major General Sir Robert Risson always was most concerned that he had a chauffeur driven car to get to the MMTB head office down the bottom of Bourke St. Even though he lived in Riversdale Rd with it tram route outside.
    Later was moved sideways, but would seek out an office minion to drive him in the government car to work.

    • @adrianjackson2696
      @adrianjackson2696 4 года назад +5

      However Risson saved the trams which is the main issue. He was an army engineer officer in North Africa during WW2 and was the head of the freemasons in Victoria later.

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 4 года назад

      On a power trip. Knew how to keep his power. Always a gullible herd to swallow his stories not that he would use the trams. Most tram lines not worth saving.

    • @adrianjackson2696
      @adrianjackson2696 4 года назад +6

      @@johnd8892 Do you own a bus company? The trams to the CBD works well. Just catch a tram or train instead of driving to work. I am a car owner too.

    • @johnd8892
      @johnd8892 4 года назад

      @@adrianjackson2696 Bus companies are another net drain on public money. So just an insult from you. You may be one of the tiny numbers taking a tram to the CBD but at what congestion and safety cost to other road users. You are not even paying the tram operating costs let alone capital costs. A better solution is working from home or locally but you want lower paid taxpayers, the vast majority of whom have their travel origins and destinations no where near a tram line , to subsidise your travel. Less of an argument from me if you pay fares about four times higher.

    • @jeremynewcombe3422
      @jeremynewcombe3422 3 года назад +1

      John D Well how about we extend trams to help you? I’ve got no problem with improved public transport.

  • @hypercomms2001
    @hypercomms2001 5 лет назад +2

    This must have been made after 1966.

    • @vsvnrg3263
      @vsvnrg3263 4 года назад

      yes. hr holdens abound.

    • @smurftums
      @smurftums 3 года назад +1

      @@vsvnrg3263 Also Decimal currency being used in the film...

    • @GlowingTube
      @GlowingTube 3 года назад

      I’m thinking 1967 or 1968

    • @hypercomms2001
      @hypercomms2001 3 года назад

      @@GlowingTube Looking at the cars you are probably right...

    • @andyrob3259
      @andyrob3259 3 года назад +2

      I’m guessing 1966. In one of the scenes of night time Melb one of the movies being shown on a cinema entrance in lights was the ‘Sound of Music’. That came out in 1965. I don’t reckon it would have still be being shown two-three years later.

  • @My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter
    @My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter Год назад

    4:00 ;)

  • @trainrover
    @trainrover 2 года назад

    citizen? but they've merely been HM's subjects...! signs about the abominable state of formation've truly abounded down under *:pFFt:*

    • @marksc111
      @marksc111 2 года назад +2

      I've read your comment three times and still have no idea what you're banging on about

  • @Patentee128
    @Patentee128 11 лет назад +2

    Ah Melbourne, probably the only progressive city of 1960s Australia...maybe the world

  • @EliteURBX
    @EliteURBX 2 года назад +5

    Australian society was so much better when the WhiteAustralia policy was in place.