I had the SAME problem before I was regenerated. Could not care a lick about history, much less church history (I thought it was all Roman Catholic history anyway...) But after being saved, seeing the beautiful work God did in our forefathers in the faith, and what all we could learn about and from them in understanding orthodoxy, I became a total church history nut.
I was worried about the ease of read of the 2000 years books, decided to Google the author and see the kind of guy he was. This makes me much more comfortable going forward with them as a summary of Church history. Thank you.
@@shawnstephens6795 but you'll believe the church fathers only when they agree with you. Strange. Maybe you do need your brain removed and replaced with the mind of the Church of Christ. This is the problem with reformed interactions with the church fathers. They believed so much which you would consider apostasy, so why even bother believing they got anything right? Cherry picking and reformed eisegesis. Sad. Why believe that apostates got Christology right? Or anything?
@@shawnstephens6795 You are aware of the basic chronological fact that the church predates the new testament. So logically you must believe that the gates of hell did prevail, almost immediately.
So In other words if the early church fathers and or bible can't convict him spiritually yet C.S Lewis does then that sure does say something about protestantism.
@ArgyllPiper90 do you understand talking to people? Did you listen to him? He wasn't regenerate so like most unregenerate, the Bible itself is not appealing MUCH LESS "old robed dudes in Christianity." But Lewis WAS compelling. And THROUGH Lewis' influence it "clicked" for him and that is simply the providential way that God drew HIM.
You should read Ignatius of Antioch, who was the disciple of John the Apostle. He called the Eucharist the “medicine of immortality”, professed that those who follow those who make schisms in the church will not inherit the kingdom of God, uses “Catholic Church” word for word, mentions the church hierarchy of bishop/presbyter/deacon, and much more.
I am amazed at James White. The professor of the Theological College of Scotland states clearly that it was the early church fathers who gave us the Trinity. White does not believe that! In another of his videos (Theological History), he adamantly states that the New Testament writers were soaked in Trinitarian theology. Yet, here he remains silent when the professor tells him to comment. Why?
White believes that the Early Church was lead by the Spirit to an correct understanding of the Trinity but that doesn't mean that the NT writers weren't themselves Trinitarians, which I'm sure Dr. Needham would agree with.
@@louiscorbett3278 I'm surprised that White couldn't muster a bit of graciousness to admit that whatever he disagrees w/ the RCC on (which is plenty for me too), that they still carried the mantle of Christianity and did get some things very right. I have seen him admit in a debate that the NT is saturated in trinity doctrine as well.
@@BurntBeatz I wish I could agree with you, but no, you are wrong. Your statement is lacking historical data. Just read the Catholic Catechism. They tell you directly that they "developed" the trinity from Greek philosophy.
I think this interview was poorly done, and the response was quite irritible. I wanted to learn something, but not listen and listen to just a lot of garbage, trash talk.
Eusebius (260-339 A.D.) is the father of church history, being the first to document the first 300 years of Christianity, from Christ to Constantine. During this time, Christians were frequently persecuted by a hostile Roman Empire. Author: Eusebius Brand: Kregel Academic & Professional
From what I can tell happened w/ Constantine and esp. after, the church then merged w/ that hostile Roman empire and that's when the Roman Catholic church really started to take form.
@@jamessheffield4173 That's an interesting timing for it. The RCC seemed well formed well before then and there seemed documented proof of it at church councils in the mid first century. Trent was the time of the reformation.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 The church of Rome goes back to Peter and Paul. It had an important place in the church catholic, but at the council of Trent 1546 A.D., it cursed the Gospel. Pax
Some of the best books I have ever read - 2000 years of Christ's Power
Yes! Currently reading through volume 1- The Age of the Early Church Fathers. I’m really enjoying it and it’s quite easy to follow.
@@adamcarpenter1869 Have you read any of the other volumes?
I had the SAME problem before I was regenerated. Could not care a lick about history, much less church history (I thought it was all Roman Catholic history anyway...) But after being saved, seeing the beautiful work God did in our forefathers in the faith, and what all we could learn about and from them in understanding orthodoxy, I became a total church history nut.
This was highly interesting. Thank you for doing this interview with Dr. Needham. Thank you for introducing us to him.
Thanks so much for this! As a homeschool mom with littles, I look forward to incorporating these volumes in our curriculum over the years.
I was worried about the ease of read of the 2000 years books, decided to Google the author and see the kind of guy he was. This makes me much more comfortable going forward with them as a summary of Church history. Thank you.
Wonderful interview and charming gentleman!
Excellent Interview! Need to learn more about Dr. Need am.
Needham.
More books added to the amazon cart.
You'll be Catholic soon
@@bastionofthefaith92 ...ill believe Mary was sinless and didnt die but ascended into heaven???...only if I have my brain removed.
@@shawnstephens6795 but you'll believe the church fathers only when they agree with you. Strange. Maybe you do need your brain removed and replaced with the mind of the Church of Christ. This is the problem with reformed interactions with the church fathers. They believed so much which you would consider apostasy, so why even bother believing they got anything right? Cherry picking and reformed eisegesis. Sad. Why believe that apostates got Christology right? Or anything?
@@shawnstephens6795 You are aware of the basic chronological fact that the church predates the new testament. So logically you must believe that the gates of hell did prevail, almost immediately.
@@bastionofthefaith92 ...my beliefs are based on the bible not church fathers.
Enjoyed this discussion. Very interesting. That was a classic spill. What a well composed response too. I'm impressed. :-)
So In other words if the early church fathers and or bible can't convict him spiritually yet C.S Lewis does then that sure does say something about protestantism.
@ArgyllPiper90 do you understand talking to people? Did you listen to him?
He wasn't regenerate so like most unregenerate, the Bible itself is not appealing MUCH LESS "old robed dudes in Christianity."
But Lewis WAS compelling. And THROUGH Lewis' influence it "clicked" for him and that is simply the providential way that God drew HIM.
Nick "Need HAM"! That name is not Kosher 😄. Incredibly interesting interview, and will be looking for these books. Thank you.
Great video. Can't wait to read about the early church fathers and not read Roman catholicism into them👍
You should read Ignatius of Antioch, who was the disciple of John the Apostle.
He called the Eucharist the “medicine of immortality”, professed that those who follow those who make schisms in the church will not inherit the kingdom of God, uses “Catholic Church” word for word, mentions the church hierarchy of bishop/presbyter/deacon, and much more.
I have Part 1, 2, 3 and 4 of 2000 years of Christ's Power and have read some over and over.
What collections of fathers does the speaker mention in 17:20?
What author wrote the two volumes of the early Christian fathers discussed in this video....?
Thank you!
I believe that it's written by someone called Nick Needham
16:53 Henry Bettenson, _The Early Christian Fathers_ and _The Later Christian Fathers_
Hello!! I am happy, Dr. Needham!
Excellent stuff!
great stuff...
Why would he not be welcome in Geneva or Wittenberg?
He's a Baptist and back in that day Calvin et al would break fellowship over that
Because of infant baptism
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His voice sounds so similar to Milo Yiannopoulos lol.
8:55
I am amazed at James White. The professor of the Theological College of Scotland states clearly that it was the early church fathers who gave us the Trinity. White does not believe that! In another of his videos (Theological History), he adamantly states that the New Testament writers were soaked in Trinitarian theology. Yet, here he remains silent when the professor tells him to comment. Why?
White believes that the Early Church was lead by the Spirit to an correct understanding of the Trinity but that doesn't mean that the NT writers weren't themselves Trinitarians, which I'm sure Dr. Needham would agree with.
@@louiscorbett3278
Nonsense, Dr. Needham states that our understanding of the Trinity, "rests on their shoulders."
@@louiscorbett3278 I'm surprised that White couldn't muster a bit of graciousness to admit that whatever he disagrees w/ the RCC on (which is plenty for me too), that they still carried the mantle of Christianity and did get some things very right. I have seen him admit in a debate that the NT is saturated in trinity doctrine as well.
They didn't give us the trinity, they just gave us the word trinity. God has revealed Himself clearly as a triune God in His word
@@BurntBeatz
I wish I could agree with you, but no, you are wrong. Your statement is lacking historical data. Just read the Catholic Catechism. They tell you directly that they "developed" the trinity from Greek philosophy.
fanboy lol. apologies but i am amused
Holy crap, someone who did something who is a Needham. Lol.
Don’t cherry pick history
I think this interview was poorly done, and the response was quite irritible. I wanted to learn something, but not listen and listen to just a lot of garbage, trash talk.
Eusebius (260-339 A.D.) is the father of church history, being the first to document the first 300 years of Christianity, from Christ to Constantine. During this time, Christians were frequently persecuted by a hostile Roman Empire. Author: Eusebius Brand: Kregel Academic & Professional
From what I can tell happened w/ Constantine and esp. after, the church then merged w/ that hostile Roman empire and that's when the Roman Catholic church really started to take form.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 I would say the church of Rome became Roman Catholic at the council of Trent 1546 A.D. Blessings.
@@jamessheffield4173 That's an interesting timing for it. The RCC seemed well formed well before then and there seemed documented proof of it at church councils in the mid first century. Trent was the time of the reformation.
@@saintejeannedarc9460 The church of Rome goes back to Peter and Paul. It had an important place in the church catholic, but at the council of Trent 1546 A.D., it cursed the Gospel. Pax
@@jamessheffield4173 My opinion is that it started in the 1200s. James White would agree with that.