Fear and Loading: Meet the NRA's Most Wanted Customer
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- Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
- American women are buying more guns than ever before, mostly to protect themselves. Manisha Krishnan heads to Texas for the annual A Girl and a Gun conference where women are being trained to fend off sexual assaults and home invasions with firearms. She's trying to find out whether gun culture among American women is fuelled by fact, or fear.
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“Stay strapped or get clapped” (sun tzu “art of war”)
My favorite book
This is a fake quote sir
@@rrt4511 oh really???? Is it???? Oh my god its not like they said it sarcastically
@Domingo Chavez Bruh.. Lmfao.
Hahahahahahahha
“If you ain’t strapping you gon get caught lackin” - Abraham Lincoln
Ironic
He would know.
This quote is correct, I was there when he said it.
@@richardmontoya1093 is telling the truth. We where chilling together that day when he said it.
Indeed he said this to the master at the convention. Ask me I know
Paranoia and situational awareness are two very different things. If you're eyebanging literally every person you see trying to figure out if they're armed, you're paranoid. If you're just keeping your eyes up and you're passively taking note of people or things that stand out in your environment, you're situationally aware.
Well said. I was thinking the same thing when she started spouting that propaganda term.
As a period person yes its stressful this type of media does incorage paranoia
"If you try to take my bread, you'll get two to the chest and one to the head"
Pillsbury Dough Boy.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 my "bread"
"Not if I'm faster."
- Billy The Kid -
Good one! Now not only you just mureded someone bug you gotta buy more bread AND bullets
😂😂😂
"Roll the dice you finna get iced"
-JFK with his AK
wait didn't JFK lost his mind.... literally
@@chinookh4713 too soon man... But naw you right, he did literally lose his mind
JAK
"I lost all my guns in a boating accident"
-Colion Noir
Haha I got here because of his video I just watched lol
@@randalllawkin lol
He’s one of the best we have lol
ME TOO
Creepy joe also said that
“I was shot, so I don’t think you should be able to protect yourself.”
It was literally because they didn't have it on them. The intruder found it.
Its like they put the gun by the front door just for the intruder to find LMAO if it was hidden/put in a safe then never would have happened.
yeah, she's assuming everyone is as incompetent as she was. A gun will definitely help, even if you are against guns, we should be able to agree on that.
@@5thfloor584 Exactly man if your not brain dead and know to put your guns away in either a spot that is really hard to find or a safe than that is way unlikely that would even had happened! Also im pro gun!
he failed to store his gun properly
"Stay strapped or get clapped"
- - George Washington (probably)
A gun is like a fire extinguisher. It's better to have one and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
J. Gona absolutely
A gun is like a fire extinguisher that kills your child.
Because nobody has ever been bludgeoned to death with a round, cylindrical object, like say.. a fire extinguisher, right? Spray some of that fire distinguishing media into your mouth and see how well it goes for you. (By the way, this happens all the the time, and it's usually by kids). The point is, no gun is spontaneously "jumping" into the hands of law-abiding citizens and firing at your family. A gun does what it is DIRECTED to do. Guns don't kill people, people kill people, and accidental deaths account for waaay more cases every year than from firearm deaths.
Your argument is unbelievably pathetic.
Is that it? My argument is so pathetic that it should easy to poke holes in, but you still haven't defended your position at all? Emotion is not an argument..
"I got nines in the bedroom, glocks in the kitchen
A shotty by the shower if you wanna shoot me while I'm shittin"
Biggie Smalls
Sometimes his words just hypnotize me
I wonder if he thinks hes gonna be in a situation as in Mr and Mrs Smith
Should of had them in tha street
He should’ve used one for self defense
Easy to say when having guards as a rapper lol.
Never bring a stabby stick to a yeet cannon boogaloo - Theodore Roosevelt
"I hate the thought of killing anything, its the last thing I would advise, but as a matter of survival, all creatures are fair game." - Les Stroud
"Gotta stay strapped"
-Thomas Jefferson
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@@thomasduffyjr mf I made this comment others are like but I made it
"Best protect ya neck". Hue glass.
My favorite NHL player
true
I'm speaking from 10 years in law enforcement in Texas. Citizens having guns and being able to protect themselves really makes a positive difference in two ways.
1) Because of the proliferation of carrying guns in Texas it really does reduce the likelihood of guns being used to victimize the populous.
2) Citizens have stopped crimes from completion keeping them there until we arrive and at other times literally defending themselves in their homes.
The problem with the removal of guns from a public safety prospective is that when someone is breaking into your house in the middle of the night and you call 911 with lights and sirens it will take us 10-15 minutes to arrive. That is simply too long when seconds count. Everytime I see people who are victimized it kills me because I can't get there fast enough or they didn't have a way to prevent it or stop it. When citizens take care of themselves it really makes me happy.
I do not believe the thought you are more likely to be killed by your own gun. I have never seen that in my 10 years as a cop.
I do not believe everyone should get a firearm. If you don't like firearms or are nervous you are better off to find another solution and you are free to choose. Why are people determine to remove the choice of defense for people who desire it?
You cannot tell people to be open minded when you yourself are closed minded to other people's beliefs.
THANK YOU!!
1) Evidence doesn't support your first claim. Facts don't support you at all
@@BrandonCorby-wr5nd can you cite credible sources for your statement?
Didn't you guys have a pretty well-known massacre like 2-3 months ago? Umm, you do realize if you're in your house and you can hear someone breaking in a knife is better for CQCB. Except you know when people are breaking into your home its more than likely to steal your tv, which isn't really worth anyone dying over with homeowners insurance? You don't believe people kill themselves with their guns? That seems like a stretch as someone that's been on a police force for 10 years. Only within the last five or so years was the 2nd amendment expanded from its original purpose of being used in a "well-regulated militia" to being construed as being used as a defensive weapon. So if you're arguing I'm closed minded because I stick to the original wording of the constitution then so be it.
@@jacoblee9455 If someone breaks in with a knife and you have a gun it is highly unlikely they will make it close enough for CQB. I would rather see them flee when the gun is presented rather than have to drop them, but someone breaks in your house with a weapon they are asking for trouble. Sadly people do kill themselves with their guns, but they do so much more frequently with their cars. In my whole life guns have been for self defense 36 years btw.
One phrase that I always respond with whenever people ask me if concealed carrying is a necessity is “I’d rather have it and not need it, than need it and both have it.”
It’s about being prepared for the worst possible scenario, and having the tools to deescalate that event or stop the threat if necessary.
I agree, USCCA has videos where they interview gun owners who used them to protect themselves and their families. People don't think about being attacked and having to deal with that.
I can't understand Americans. You massacre children and think it's still okay to carry because one day you might need it, wake up
@@Chill-mm4pn what people don't realise though is that it's not a safety thing, if everyone has as access to one how can it protect you
@@SergyMilitaryRankingsot everyone has one. Not everyone knows if you do. Not everyone has training even if they do have a gun. As many have said, I'd rather have the tools I need, know how to use them, and not need them, than the opposite. If you aren't willing to increase your odds of being safe, who do you think will take care of you?
@@prof113 you don't need Training to use a gun, point and shoot, this isn't a combat situation were things will be at a distance, majority of self defense will be close range, accuracy is meaningless
it's not increasing your odds though, statistics show that the US has far higher gun crime and mass shootings and overall crime in general than majority of developed nations (most gun crime and mass shootings by far) so this idea that guns make society safer is just nonsense.
The solution is the problem, people think we'll criminals have guns so I need to, not realising two things, first it's easy access to guns that give criminals such easy access in the first place as places with strict gun control in Europe have incredibly low gun crime even in organised crime and secondly you're not protecting yourself if the other person has a gun aswell, you're just increasing the chances you both die.
So best things for self defense is strict gun control with maybe a tazer or pepper spray, but the research and statistics is pretty clear, if I was in America I'd be armed purely because the majority of others are, but in Europe I don't need to be, and this is reflected in gun crime statistics, so you can support the second amendment all you like but don't try and say that guns make society safer because they very clearly have the opposite effect..
Comparing Canada to the U.S. is like doing that thing where you mom said "well your sister did this, why can't you do this" because you ain't your sister
But America could emulate policies that work elsewhere, just like children might copy habits from their sister or other family
@@vikmanphotography7984 America doesn't want to be Canada tho
@@itsirish9582 _YOU_ don't want that.
Though picking out the best features doesn't mean we wouldn't be America any more. I'd happily choose Canada's health care system over America's or South Korean's internet infrastructure. Emulating something that works elsewhere doesn't have to destroy our cultural identity.
@@vikmanphotography7984 asking Americans if they want Canadian gun control is like asking brothers if they want to become Siamese twins at least the majority of them
@@itsirish9582 I'm not an expert on Canada's gun regulation but a quick Google search suggests it's mostly just stricter gun license criteria and a 28 day waiting period. And a ban on fully automatic weapons+ sawed off shotguns. That's really not that radical.
I know that stricter background checks and training requirements both poll reasonably well in the US. If memory serves, it's like 60-70% popular.
**Edit- but there's no need to limit this exercise to Canada's gun control system. A reasonable person could find any number of things worth emulating that are in no way related to gun legislation.
“Mess with Gods hour get the Sig Sauer”-Jack Wilson
That made me chuckle thanks for that one 😂😂😂
No body interrupts me and Dorothy's Jesus time
omg this line is gnius
“Mess with my baby get the CZ”
Boogalations 357:stay strapped or get clapped
"So I went to Texas. The heart of gun culture in America"
Montana: Ohkay
Idaho: Ohkay
Wyoming: Ohkay
Alaska: Hahaha
In Maine we are laughing about that one to.
You just pissed off so man Texans right now
Oklahoma in the back of the class yelling GAYYY
Coming from idaho. My response was more "dafuq? Even in big city area of idaho, you can't go ten minutes in any direction without seeing a gun shop...and my wallet is the only thing that hates that 😂
Kentucky pretty much the only gun laws we have say that cities can't overrule KRS
That pool analogy was spot on
If you want to carry a gun, do it. If you don't want one in your house, don't get one. It's as simple as that, you have a CHOICE. No one should have the ability to limit your choice or your rights
"America runs on Dunkin" -Starbucks
My wife was anti gun, until someone tried to break in while I was gone.
First she grabbed the gun, then she grabbed the phone.
bravo, enough said
Know Nothing: Early in our marriage, my wife was uncertain as to whether or not she could actually shoot someone if she needed to. Then one night our dogs aroused her to the fact that someone was in our back yard messing around with our things. She came bolt upright and awake, gripping a revolver. She no longer has any doubts. In case you are wondering, the intruder fled our back yard after hearing the dogs barking.
Grabbed them in the right order, too.
probably saved her life!
Id have both hands on the gun I'll pick up the phone later
“Why would women need to concealed carry?”
Don’t we live in a rape culture Vice?
Rape culture exists but women don't need to protect themselves from it, they should let it happen instead of shooting the rapist
-Vice
Yea, if she can predict every assault then go with the guns lol.
Emir Latinović What would you recommend a 100lb women go with? Strongly worded letters?
@@makerstudios5456 dressing properly, going out at certain times, avoiding nasty situations, not using drugs nor anything that could disrupt her consciousness...
I'm not against the gun don't get me wrong but, it can't save always.
If it could, no armed criminal could have been arrested, no police officer could be wounded or killed.
There is something else that gives the best defence.
I love how she shows up with no ear protection 🤣
She'll learn after she does that a few more times.
"Poopity scoop" -Kanye West
soceity
@@marcelino.i.v suks
@@somerandomguy8725 *cok*
“We live in a society”
@@yeezysandals7769 society is garbage
VICE “Has your house ever burnt down to the ground”
YOU “No”
VICE “Then you don’t need a fire extinguisher. Preparedness is stoopid.”
Well our houses wouldn't burn down if we banned matches. Matches are designed to create fire. And don't go all "but electric fires do happen"... electricity isn't designed to cause fires, so it's ok. We need electricity like we need cars. We don't need matches anymore than we need guns. We've progressed as a species...
@@mikethompson2745 What about lighters, they are waaay more dangerous than matches, no one needs them to start fires, i think people who camp should be allowed to have registered matches, but no lighters, they are designed to start as many fires as possible in just minutes, no real camper needs that kind of firepower.
@@fruitfarmfords8243 I can compromise on the campers. They can even have lighters, but they can't have Assult Lighters, (like those scary looking Zippos), and they have to have a max capacity of 10 flicks before they run out! Our founding fathers never imagined unlimited firepower, they had to light fires one match at a time.
LMFAO. What about lighters that look like guns? They're scary and start plenty of fires.
@@jameswhitman3934 Those novelty items? Sure, some people might use them to threaten arson, but realistically they don't cause that much harm. Seriously, when was the last time you heard someone use a gun to start a fire?
“Get strapped or get smacked “ -King George III
"the only way to stop violence, is with more violence."
I think I'm in love ❤
You love fascism?
Men arming themselves... "We can't trust you, you don't need a gun."
Women arming themselves "you go girl! Protect yourself!"
probably because they'll miss all their shots lol
Tarek Ali my wife is actually a damn good shot
@@jimbeaux89 does that prevent you from arguing with her?
Tarek Ali ahaha right? You just know the men will miss all their shots just because they’re men duh 😂🙄
...I’ve never heard anyone say that only to men.
“Dont be lackin get to packin”
-George Washington
"More than likely, a gun is going to get taken from you and used against you" - ABSOLUTELY NOT. That's what the training is there for. Stop projecting your own incompetence on others.
Hate to say this, but they do not train that. Going to the range once a weekend and drawing your pistol on a human target does not train you to work under stress at all.
@@silentghoust did you not watch literally the first 30 seconds of the video? There is training for literally ANY scenario
“If guns are what’s making people unsafe then adding more of them to the equation is not a good idea”-some naiive high schooler who hasn’t heard of socio economic and mental health issues before
That is the single biggest non sequitur argument I have ever heard
Where she has it fundamentally wrong is that guns are what make people unsafe. Nooooo.. murderous people make us unsafe, thieves, predators, dangerous animals... Those things make us unsafe.
If you wanna get into a bare knuckle brawl with some psychopath or a fkn bear with a couple cubs nearby.. be my guest! But that isn't how I'd chose to defend myself, and that is my right. It's a shame they have such distain for what previous generations fought to give us.
Mistakes were made through out history, but giving us the right to bear arms is not one of them.
Wow! It's as if that's actually true. Just ask Europe. Last time I checked, they don't have mass shooting every single week.
"God made men, Samuel Colt made them equal"
Al beautifully said
🤣
stoner and browning keep men free
Al god has abandoned us all
Hahahahah. Pretty sure god created everything including weapons.
"I keep my doors locked for YOUR protection, not mine homie"
-OG. Benjamin Franklin
That doesn't even make sense
@@ERROR204. makes perfect sense
@@ERROR204. it means I shoot intruders, thus the reason I keep the doors locked.
@@ERROR204. Ok Connor
YOU ARE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME, I AM NOT LOCKED IN WITH YOU!
I love the editing in this, showing the trained and responsible gun owning women as blood thirst people
I know, they try to almost “criminalize” lawful gun owners
That's vice for you. Next these women are gonna be white supremacists. Liberal media at its finest
@@notfounder285 loool typical Americans in the comments
@@Sarusoid what do the 3 O’s stand for
@@Sarusoid and what made you assume I’m American? Just because I’m ok with LAWFUL gun owners.
That pools and swimming analogy was really smart. Kudos
It was an aweful comparison. Her analogy would have been accurate if she said 'the risk for people to be drowned in a pool would increase 100x'. As she said: 'the risk for people to drown in a pool would increase 100x' you have to compare it to the increased risk of getting shot with a gun in your house AND the increased risk of commiting suicide with a gun in the house (and does that risk increase severly) if a gun is present in the household. If those risks (gun & pool deaths) are equal (or close) her analogy would've been good.
"You wanna get killed? Get in a love triangle." LOL
Definitely true though look at all the true life murder mystery shows
@@jaredmayo2331 oh yeah, it’s definitely true. Not a lot of things bring out such hatred in people. Jealousy is a big one.
The 7 cardinal sins the downfall of most men and women in this world
Best line outta this whole thing
Jodi arias case is a perfect example
Imagine thinking wanting to protect yourself is a radical concept
Imagine that you could get arrested for carrying anything for self defence, even if it just a tiny baton. Gotta love the uk
Imagine living everyday of your life thinking the guy next to you is about to pull up.
@Jedd Slaven Ever heard of St Louis Jane Doe? Well she's a unidentified 8-11 year old who was killed, raped, and decapitated. Her head has never been found so we don't know who she was. People who conceal carry don't do it to feel big and strong, they carry because IF it ever does happen then at least you're prepared to fight back. The world isn't all sunshine and rainbows, there are people who would do horrible things to you given the chance just walking around in society and you'd let yourself be at their mercy to do whatever they want with you?
@Jedd Slaven could you please direct me to a nation where it's so safe that no crimes against people ever happen. Like ever. Because there will always be very bad people in this world and aslong as they exist I have every right to protect myself against them.
Constipatedfrank Canada is much safer than the US.
"Texas, the heart of gun..."
Bich, I had more guns at 14 than my local Sheriff's Office
I love that there are gun holster commercials throughout the video. LOL
They don’t say it will stop you from being attacked, they say it’ll allow you to fight back.
At the very minimum places you on even ground with your attacker and in the best of circumstances you've trained with that firearm so much you know it inside and out and it places you leaps and bounds above your attacker in chances of survival strictly speaking.
Not if you take headshot.
yeah, but they were talking about killing them.
@@melamshwablah4381 Killing their attackers? Yeah, good.
@@melamshwablah4381 what should they do when threatened with death?
Vice, flippantly: "Can you explain the kind of scenario where someone would actually need this training?!?!?!"
Vice, triumphantly: "We live in a RAPE CULTURE!!!"
My thoughts exactly. "Rape culture! Trump is a Nazi! White cis males are killing us in the streets!"
Ok, I got a gun to protect myself.
"What are you paranoid, tough guy? Looking to pick a fight? Small penis syndrome?"
That's sexual harassment. And you literally just told me the world was ending.
"No its not, only women can be sexually harassed."
🤦♂️
@@TommyTombstone awww snowflake
@@opticalwinter every shitty trans joke we add 5 more genders btw
This made me laugh. The hypocrisy is just outrageous.
@@dequaviousgoochburger6621 its good that youve adapted, jokes are jokes let us have them
Her eyes make it look like shes always just waking up lol
"Twice to the chest.... aaand one to the head." said so casually. Made me LOL!
“The gun will be taken from you and used against you” well you arent training on weapon retention enough
Its a real threat man, imagine they have your gun not you man
Again if you are not pracricing drawing it from concealment in a fast motion and pacifying the aggressor then you are hopeless no point in having a gun
Also even if you can do all that its a risk, what if he draws faster than i do, what if he pulls a knife, the gun doesnt gurantee anything other than a fighting chance
@@robertofernandez9854 whataboutism is pointless. In the end, it's always better to stack the odds in your favour.
@@robertofernandez9854 neither does not having anything my god are u that dumb a gun doesnt gaurantee but it damn sure gives me a way better chance
I would stop carrying a gun if they would let me carry a cop.
Gold!
would a cop have stoped Chris Watts from killing his wife (could a gun have kept him from strangling the babies??)
@@ladycanada35 yes
wow your reasoning is staggering but intertaining to read.@@ladycanada35
algierssolja a noble, if not tired & old, sentiment, but a greater concern arises when one considers carrying a cop for their personal protection, besides it being impractical and unrealistic, many if not most cops cannot be trusted and ALL cops, as ALL humans, are fallible, and then there’s the whole issue of outsourcing the responsibility of one’s own personal safety to a third-party, let alone the GOVERNMENT. Think about it.
I’d much rather be responsible for my own safety and carry the appropriate tools for the mission. Cops already do that so why shouldn’t we?
The issue is the culture. NRA appeals to the simplicity of it all.
Go out on a weekend and shoot at a human target.
They don't teach you to read the room, react to actual dangers, etc. They just paint this vivid image in your head that any stressful situation or show of aggression is life or death. It takes weekly training to be able to effectively react to a stressful situation. Something a large number of gun owners won't do, nor is their proper qualified classes for it.
The NRA is just bad for gun owners in general. They overhype ownership and make gun ownership an emotional thing rather than a tool. The day US fixes its gun problem is the day when gun owners actually understand the complexities of self-defense and it's not always drawing for the pistol.
The gun problems in America stem from criminals using guns not over eager people trying to defend themselves.
Absolutely agree
Wrong
@@iBLOODBATHproduction 🤡🤡🤡
Amazingly put. I can’t stand hearing the NRA’s speeches. It’s fear mongering, and frankly grosses me out. I’m a gun owner, and I support the Second Amendment, but never in my life will I willingly support the NRA as an organization, or take their advice on how to handle situations.
To me, all of it seems utterly irresponsible. they make it out to seem like having a gun will put you in control of every situation, no matter your level of training, and they hook new members on their sob lines about protecting your family.
The truth is, without that proper training and understanding, you will most likely be shaking in your boots if something ever happens.
I just hate gun culture here in the US. It’s basically a dick measuring contest, instead of being seen as a tool.
I admit it’s fun to shoot, and it’s actually the main reason I purchased one in the first place. But you can’t sell that end all be all protection facade to people who really end up needing proper training as well.
Never thought I'd see John Correia on a Vice video lol. Cool stuff.
"Always have that Glock around the clock."
-- Arno Lou
I’m a Texan and Texans don’t like Austin lol they’re literally the California of Texas
Ong they weird asf there. Houston where it’s at
God forbid you guys are progressive 💀
@@spotspotspot Progressivism means supporting policies which make you look superior, morally and intellectually. This is why the policies themselves do not achieve the results they claim they are designed to produce. Liberalism is nothing more than a brand to make the liberal appear as though their social status is higher than others, nothing more, they don't actually care about people, they only care about appearing as though they care about people because that somehow makes them look like good people.
Actually, there are parts of California that are very politically conservative. Anaheim, for example, is a sizable city that votes more conservatively than Texas’ larger cities. It would be more precise to liken Austin to San Francisco...that’s a better comparison.
@@whipivy Liberals are NOT "progressives". Liberals believe in the equality of all common men. They believe in the US and its borders, God, the Constitution, the right of all men to pursue their own happiness. They believe,
"ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." The progressives do not.
These the same people that get mad because “ the cops didn’t get the fast enough “ 🤣
The best form of gun control is gun safety.
There will always be people out there wanting to hurt/oppress someone else
I used to think like these kids when I was that young. Then was confronted with real visceral violence and realized “holy shit, there’s no way the cops will ever show up in time” took them 19 minutes to respond to a home invasion in a city that had over 1 million people? Look at the court cases where people have sued the cops for failing to protect them. They’ve set precedent that says it’s not the cops job to protect you. It’s their job to enforce laws. It’s MY responsibility to keep me safe.
if you have to use a gun to protect yourself when walking in public you need help
more likely to die in a car accident, check. more likely to die from heart disease, check. more likely to die from alcohol, check.
seems like we need less guns to defend our selves and more car and health safety. This scare mongering is all done by the gun manufacturing industry to sell more guns.
Mr. Safer more likely? Sure but the fact that evil exists is why people in this country own guns and always will. Laws be damned.
Same here.
Haydaboss if I have to use a gun while walking in public me and my family will still be alive. What will you be? The one needing help.
“The gun was taken from him”..,. YEAH THATS BECAUSE HE DIDN’T USE IT!!!!!!!🤦♂️
She said that it was stored lol that means it wasn't anywhere near him. Mine is at arms reach literally as I type this out. I won't get caught with my pants down.
@@californiaminutemancarrill3458 Honestly, if anything it’s proof common sense should be drilled further into peoples brains and that if we want to keep our guns we need need to find honest, fair ways to weed out the people who are going to one day just become the perpetrator of a shooting
That is a slippery slope though, of course as I can honestly see how gun control can be unjustly used to target minorities, LGBTQ+ and one thing I should add too:
A startling amount of them have been white supremacists and/or people who have been bullied who’s school ignored it.
Not saying the shooters justified either, just that maybe we should be going after the motives which is the clear reason why these things happen and not the guns themselves.
You can't have my gun, but I am absolutely willing to give somebody all my bullets, out of the barrel.
We noticed that you were to chicken to go up against the National Guard on Inauguration Day. What's wrong, snowflake?
“You don’t need to kill someone to protect yourself” ok I’ll just ask them politely not to murder me
I think it is amazing that these women are learning to shoot guns to protect them selves
Not till they point a gun at u for walking close to them at a store
@@es-tg9810 ong
(Okay, I lied, I'm still watching.) Your argument didn't go over well with the female black lawyer, but luckily you found some high schoolers!
Can I like this comment 100 times
Volta Kubrick so? Also... High schoolers
you can always depend on the left to use kids like the girl in the white dress that has no clue what she is talking about. "the world our parents left us" what a crock our parents didn't make the world worse it was the liberals, ACLU, and the judicial system that slaps a hand and says don't do that for a criminals first arrest and second adding some probation and then the third time oh lets rehabilitate him/her. Oh I guess some parents did leave it worse mine didn't. I had the kind that if you did anything wrong your ass was theirs. These whinny kids they use are kids of liberals I'm sure. My kids got their butts spanked like I got mine when I grew up also my kids well they know how to respect people and life as well as a gun. My father started teaching me about guns at 8 years old by 19 I had a small collection already started most have now been handed off to my kids but not all.
@Volta Kubrick You have to pay to be an NRA CERTIFIED instructor
@@rogerhancock8732 That was the most idiotic rant I have ever read... If you really cared (or even could understand) how the world works, then you wouldn't have written that shit.
My granddad (and dad) started teaching me about guns when I was 4-5 years old. My granddad was a sniper in Finnish army during the second world war, and spent abt 5 years in the front, serving in two wars. He was promoted and awarded with medals several times, including the "cross of freedom" and killed countless of russians with his sniper rifle and with submachine gun. My dad didn't have to go to war, but since we have mandatory military service here, he is also a trained killer. Everyone here is, and everyone also knows how to use guns from assault rifles to anti-tank weapons...We started with a .22 rifle, then came pistols (they were Nagants that my granddad took from dead russian officers that he had shot) and shotguns and 7,62 rifles etc...
Both me and my dad got spanked when were little, but it is a thing from the past, that doesn't teach kids anything, so that cycle broke when I had my kids - no spanking, just learning and love and it has worked just as good, if not even better.
However... NONE of these things have NOTHING to do with this video. It isn't politicly motivated in any way - it is just REPORTING...
I can't believe how stupid some people can get... Hey, I'll bet that you don't have college education, right???
“Carry the glock, or get dropped”
- Leonardo DiCaprio
"Wen I'm carrying my AK, you're Fake A."
- Unknown Hero -
“If you aint having guns you aint having fun”-mickey mouse
She was shot, and her friend was killed because he “didn’t have his gun stored properly”. Well, he didn’t have it on him, so she’s technically right. What a cop out as to why others can’t protect themselves.
When the billionaire Mike Bloomberg willingly walks the streets without armed guards I’ll consider not carrying my pistol
Bloomberg is important and has a lot of enemies. You are not.
I don’t care, as long as you have a damn license and are responsible with it
@@dudedude64 I like it when people are more middle of the road, less radical either way. Nicely done Sir, or madam.
@@dudedude64 I don't need any license
@@Gasher92 and why is that?
FYI with this corona virus thing going on a lot of non gun owners have become gun owners lately....
Millions of them.
Bunch of hypocrites! Crying no guns no guns no guns, then all rush to store to buy a gun!
While No gun activists need to rush to buy a gun, if they a real gun lover, they already got plenty.
00ninja00 sometimes it takes a virus... or a cop car burning outside your window to convince you that you need to tool up to protect yourself and your loved ones...
Old Milk3 a cop car burning makes me a lot more comfortable than carrying a gun would :)
And I am proudly one of them. Had guns (and training) before but hadn’t had one in a while so I figured now was a good a time as any to own them again.
Ask a woman that’s been sexually assaulted if the gun she conceal carries “really keeps her safe”
Did the lady who was shot in the head really think that if the robber didn't find a gun he would have said to himself, "ok..... I guess i'll leave this lady alone?"
"Does that mean we need to ban pools or learn how to swim?" Great response!
No matter how hard Vice is trying to twist the narrative, this still is the real empowerment to women.
if I had even hit the rapist I would have been sent to jail with CHARGES
how is being in jail going to empower me or my growing children left behind?????????
empower you straight to jail if you don't own more lawyers than guns..... proving self-defence will eat up all your time with your children
/watch?v=A804A3WAbB0 You think she is in jail? think again.
False lady
"I keep that forty on me and I let it bang" (Mozart)
I like how the walkout protest was protected by people with guns.
"More than likely the gun is going to be taken from you and used against you"
Wow, that is about the most anecdotal statement anyone could ever make against gun ownership.
unept96 Look it up. A woman carrying a gun is more likely to be murdered than one who isn’t carrying.
wagv.org/about-gun-violence/women-and-guns/
Dethglock Look up the sources it quotes and stop using emotional, unfounded and faux logic arguments.
SwampCritter Look at the sources it quotes. It’s not 30 years old. By far the oldest source is from 2003. What has changed since them?
unept96 www.thetrace.org/2016/05/gun-ownership-makes-women-safer-debunked/
@SwampCritter
*_"The "sources" just keep getting rewritten with new names at the heading. The group hasn't even been called Handgun Control Incorporated for over twenty years."_*
So you tell me: what has changed in that time?
*_"gullible little paid troll."_*
*_"you Democrat slave"_*
*_"I bet you also believe that sea levels are going to rise despute the claim that our cities will be under water has proven completely false along with every other climate claim."_*
*_"How much do you get paid to lie?"_*
*_"no one can be that fucking stupid in real life."_*
*_"you lying sack of marxist puppet shit."_*
Do you really think this is a valid argument? ROFL!! Quite the angry little man, aren't we?
You sure think you know a lot about me, don't you? You are aware, aren't you, that the gun laws in the UK and Australia were introduced by _conservative_ governments under John Howard and John Major. You are aware, aren't you, that whatever the New Zealand PM's political convictions, the new law was passed 119-1. Are you going to tell me that everyone who voted for these new laws was a liar or a democrat slave?
Where are your sources? I'd ask you to post better sources but you don't _have_ any sources! LOL!!
You are pathetic.
"The best type of marketing is marketing that doesn't feel like marketing."
“It makes the people feel like they’re apart of it”
Long live Hopsin
If I do remember correctly, the "guy on a roof with a gun" thing was literally a guy filming an airsoft gun review lmao
A gun in the house is fine if your in the house in that room a gun in the room is much more effective.
You don't have a pool until all your kids can swim.
"We dont wanna take your guns away" we just wanna take your guns away
Well the bad guys use X gun but I'll take away Y gun first so it looks like I'm doing something "right"
@@sumvs5992 WTF just bann guns so the bad guys dont get to carry guns idiots.
r3al bad guys don’t care about bans dummy
@@r3al174 Why don't we just ban drugs and then people won't have drugs and we won't have any more problems with substance abuse and overdose. Oh, wait... We did ban drugs and it didn't work because people just acquired them illegally.
r3al guns will just go away right, so tired of people with no firearm knowledge having an incorrect opinion
How many people actually use the spare tire in the vehicles? Not that many compared to the number of spare tires. According to this video, we shouldn't have spare tires anymore.
WOW, the sheer level of stupidity that this comment rises to is shocking
Pigdoc1 sure, if you hate logic, you would say things like that. You know, here is a little secret for you: you can be for gun control and against the bad logic of gun control advocates.....
Logan Sloan Why would this logic apply to both, when they're entirely different situations? The problem with this logic is that spare tires are meant to resolve a non-violent problem whereas guns are tools for injury.
Exactly. Same reason people have fire extinguishers. The overwhelmingly vast majority of people will never need to use a fire extinguisher to put out a fire in their home, but boy it sure is nice knowing you have an option if you're ever put in that situation. Same thing with guns. The vast majority of people won't need to use a gun for self defense but it is FAR more comforting knowing I have a means of protection on me IF that time ever comes.
@Naomi - Why is it that ignorant people like you always use the defense of "well guns are tools of injury" or "but guns are BUILT to kill"? So what? Are you so naive and oblivious that you honestly don't think there is EVER a time or situation where you might NEED to injure or kill someone to PREVENT THEM from injuring or killing YOU? Maybe you should crawl out of your safe space and recognize the real world.
If I have enough Money.....I don't want a gun...I ll buy a nuke..... Just to be on the safer side... And that should be made legal... My safe is my responsibility ... So I should have the right to have my nuke... Just as a deterrence or as a self defense weapon....
The response time of 911 in my area is 37 minutes, my 1911 can respond in 37 seconds.
The “bring a wookie “ t shirt was metaphorically perfect 👍
My mother defended my 3 siblings and myself from a drugged up bad guy trying to force entry into our home when I was 9 years old.... she repelled his attack by firing a single shot. The round struck the intruder and he fled as a result.
Mama bears don't play... Even if she didn't have a gun
Cool you shot and probably killed a guy freaking out on a drug. That should make you sick not proud
Live by the sword you die by the sword ⚔️
@@stoneybologna2302 but it’s a gun
@@luucid5734 wow, you must be a dump supporter. He loves the poorly educated.
This video completely ignores the CDC study on defensive gun use, that shows between 500,000 and up to 2,500,000 times a year a gun is used in self defense without being fired. Instead they only count defensive gun use that results in a death to compare to murders with a gun.
where did you buy the LSD dose you used to make up that statistic?
Ruairi Rhodes Appellees the centers for disease control where the study comes from
Ruairi Rhodes Oh what, you thought every gun owner in the country just constantly gets caught off guard all the time? That would be pretty funny.
bitch I own guns too and carry a glock 23, what I also do is read... this statistic is completely made up, not one of you will provide a source of information because its completely false
www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/04/30/that-time-the-cdc-asked-about-defensive-gun-uses/#170bbce8299a
America. Where you compare a gun to a pool.
13:02 congratulations, you have just described what a law is for.
"We shouldn't bring in laws to prevent other people from doing bad things because I won't do bad things."
"I want you to lock your gun up". Yes yes wait a sec whilst I find the keys to open my safe then you can continue trying to rob my house. 👍
Or quit being paranoid.
The trick is, you gotta rob them first.
@@LaFlairdom Do you wear a seat belt in you vehicle? Quit being paranoid. Do you lock your doors or even own locks? Quit being paranoid. Don't you know, having a oven in your dwelling makes it more likely for you to die in a horrible fire as well as others living near you. Got to get those banned. Do you have a extinguisher? Quit being paranoid. Having the proper tool to deal with any given situation is not being paranoid.
@@LaFlairdom Prepared does not equal paranoid. If you think home invasions, burglary and robbery does not happen your are in fantasy land.
Not stored properly.....
That was the problem
if you are referring to S. Nelson's story; she neglects to mention that the man, whose apartment she was shot in, had invited the KNOWN BAD GUY into the apartment for dinner and then the bad guy did what bad guys do. but we should give up our guns... you know, for the children ;)
WHAT DO WE WANT!? lol
hey hey... ho ho
www.star-telegram.com/news/local/community/arlington/article92583237.html
Not very useful all locked away, unloaded, in a safe.
Stored properly? You mean on my hip in a 3 level retention holster?
peter melgoza Yeah, go on, tell us how it would never have happened to you.
edward smith Owning a gun didn’t help him.
“If you’re thinking rape is easy, meet my CZ.” -Betsy Ross
My wife and I are Texan refugees from California. Two years ago we both went through training and both have conceal carry.
Being that this was Vice I knew it was only a matter of time before it went hard left and I clicked anyways.
I fell for it to... I keep hoping to see some "objective" reporting. I wonder why the left doesn't run adds with women discussing how good the hospital staff was and how well the police responded AFTER the assault?
arynn ritter How dare anyone present both sides?
Don't feel bad vice was canned
Vice is owned by huffpost, eff them.
@@thethirdman225 They didn't do it in an unbiased manner tho.
Guns have the capability to take lives, but what decides if the gun kills someone is the person behind the trigger. BE SAFE PEOPLE!!!
I mean that same person would've killed themselves somehow anyways 🤷♂️ glad they had a tool available which made it quick and painless
Guns are just a tool, and like all tools, they can be replaced. Criminals can use knives bombs cars, swords, rocks, and poison. With the increase in technology and the ability for people to build things at home easily new kinds of weapons can be made unregulated. Rather than focusing on the tools, we should be focusing on the people who did it. But besides crime has been falling for the past decades despite what popular belief is, statistics show a trend that violent crime is falling despite any major gun ban being passed this means guns are not the problem the people are.
I'm a gun owner, and the lady with the swimming pool analogy was correct IMO. I personally believe TRAINING should be the focus of gun legislation (particularly surrounding carry laws); however, if I can legally own a gun, I should be able to do the training and get my carry permit.
Here in LA they don't issue carry permits and that's BS! I'm fine with required training, but not with denying the right to carry.
I used to live in the people’s republic of California. Will never move back until the taxes, anti 2A, and over regulation of people and business stop and reverse.
the american battle royale continues, thank you for contributing to the problem
it's the same crap in New Jersey although it doesn't seem to be nearly as bad as California over here
When was the last time schools were massacred from a pool owner
Build a fence around the pool ie.restrict guns
I hate when a documentary wants to come across as not biased... And 15 seconds in....You know it's a Hit Piece on Guns .
Gotta love the guy standing there with his AR-15 while the anti-gun crowd is passing by @ 15:19 lol
And can you believe that the evil AR15 did not get up on its own and shoot itself?!
yeah, where are the SJWs trying to rip it off his back? ;)
were are the cops shooting him like they do us so called blacks ?
Well if he held it in a threatening position then you bet your ass he would’ve been pumped with lead.
What was he doing standing there anyway in front of a bunch of kids. It really smacks of intimidation, their kids, learning about public discourse and civic duty. It just seems tone deaf to show up at a rally with gun violence in schools and stand there intimidating kids with a gun like that.
For context, I'm a service member that served honorably for six years during the Iraq war. I've been a member of the NRA for several years. I own fire arms, trained and responsibly store them. Have and maintain a CPL.
Fire arms are not toys, and they're not to intimidate unarmed children.
Remember when Vice was a good news source? I member.
Don't eat the member berries!
mr5elfde5truct I ate the member berries
Pepridge Farm remembers.
He's a member...
long long long time ago...
As the famous Bruce lee once said
“it’s better to be a warrior in a garden then a Gardner in a war”
“Tough time never lasts, tough people lasts”
"What do we want!?" "Mindless chants!" "Why do we want them?!" "To program us!!"
My kids will be taught to believe whatever they feel is right based on the available information, but always be leery of creepy sheepy mob mentality.
Yupp.
You’re more likely to die in a car accident every day then be shot don’t drive
You can’t downplay one problem be displaying another one
The difference being that you need a car but not a gun. In 2019 40 000 people died in car accidents in the us compared to the 15 000 that got shot. In a normal country like france or germany only around 100 people get shot so its easy to avoid these thousands of deaths by applying common sense and ban firearms.
@Kyle Mortensen funny you would say that without even knowing the homicide statistics. In the us there are 5.0 or 5.3 per 100.000 people depending on the source while in france for example it is 1.3 in the uk it is 1.2 in germany it is 0.9 and in norway it is only 0.5. So as you can see the homicide rate of the us is way higher than it is in other developed first world countries. And that mostly because of its loose gun restrictions.
@Kyle Mortensen i dont fear firearms in fact i find them quite intersting and fun but there is a difference between finding something interesting and beeing able to undestand how dangerous it is for a society
Cars are neccesary though. Guns aren't.
Speaking honestly, I understand the concern and can even agree with some points (or at least the motivations) made in gun control movements. The problem is that firearms are already plentiful in the United States, and it's very deeply seeded in our culture. Further restrictions on firearms are more likely to make criminals feel more confident that they are safe when conducting illegal activity than they are to remove guns from the hands of said criminals. Disarming morally conscientious people just makes them a target for those who don't care if they're breaking a collection of laws. This is something I almost never see counter points for, it's always dismissed or the conversation gets redirected when it's brought up.
One could argue that if we start now, in 100 years we might be able to see American society free of guns. Could we really though? With each passing decade it becomes easier and easier to fabricate your own firearms. We're essentially already at the point where 3D printed guns are functional enough to become a concern. I think restricting firearms to the extent that a lot of activists would like to see at this point is just going to create a modern prohibition type of atmosphere in the US.
And to touch on school shootings; I get that they're horrible, this isn't meant to sound insensitive or play down the terrible nature of these events. The problem is that people use these awful events as a way to push agenda. Pushing gun control laws that focus on school shootings would be like pushing laws making windows illegal because kids tend to fall out of them and die. There were something like 8 deaths, and 43 injuries due to school shootings in 2019 (for those interested, something like 12 kids under the age of 12 die from falling out of windows annually.) School shootings are statistically insignificant when it comes to gun crime, and are used as emotional bargaining chips when folks try to push for more firearm restrictions. I would think it would be far more effective to invest in understanding why these people are shooting up schools rather than how.
Frankly it just seems like no one's ever thought of the end game, and all these solutions being proposed are either willfully ignorant or just thoroughly short sighted. No one ever stops to just think these problems through, it's not as easy as just adding restrictions on purchasing and owning a firearm. It's all just one knee jerk reaction after another.
I don't really know what the right thing to do is, this is a complicated discussion that probably doesn't have a good solution, but in the spirit of this Vice reporter's methods I'll end on an anecdote. When I was going to college back in 2010-2015 I remember constantly seeing reports of people being mugged and beaten half to death on college campuses at night. My college had a strict policy against weapons of any kind. It happened literally every few nights. It seems to me that disarming the students was effectively painting a large target on their back, and folks would drive onto campus specifically to assault and steal from the people who are likely to have no way to fight back.
I feel like we shouldn't be focused on the tools of the crime but rather on the people that commit it we don't have a "gun violence epidemic" as many call it but rather a violence epidemic, we must confront the problem at the core most reason people commit a crime is either drugs, poverty, gang, or mental health issues. Banning guns just takes away one tool for the job people can always create a new method or tool that can be just as dangerous. All politicians are doing is feeding the fears of the people to get elected, the truth is violent crime is falling in America despite zero gun ban laws being passed.
Thank you. I feel as you do, but also thanks especially for highlighting a core issue in American politics; which is the fact that people want quick, easy answers on multiple subjects and don't like to challenge themselves to think it through and to try to see all ends of a proposed solution in the long term. We are paying for short term thinking. Ideally I would want guns off the planet, literally no guns, but that's not our reality, as you explained, it's more complicated than that.
Here in the uk we’ve got very strict fire arm laws, which I’ve 2 minds about, I believe we should have personal autonomy in all things we don’t need the state to nanny us, anyway, gun laws work we had one school shooting, amidst fairly tight laws, after that it went even stricter we’re at the point now in scotland where I can’t own an air gun ! Without a firearms certificate... but we have zero gun crime which is good. I envy the amount of wilderness country yous have over there, surely getting rid of guns that aren’t for hunting and having those left stored securely and registered wouldn’t be to much of an infringement.
@@gingerandthetramp what about all the other types of violence and crime that happens in the UK amidst the strict gun regulation? Criminals aren’t just not committing crime because they can’t get guns, taking away one thing just opens up a whole new method of inciting violence against people.
The proof of that is out of control in large violent gun controled cities. So called "gun" violence, which is actually just violence, is like nothing I"d ever thought I would see in my life. Criminals for the most part do not want to get shot, or hurt, they just want to steal from you, whether that is to steal food, money, your personal autonomy, oryour life, it is stealing, and they want easy victims, not those that will kill them.
There are 2.2 MILLION defensive gun uses in the US yearly. That's 2.2 M less victims.
"More than likely the gun will be taken from you and used against you." No maam, thats not how it works
The chances of things actually getting to that point to anyone... ever in their life, is statically SO fucking unlikely. This is just making women scared so they give you money.
@@jamesjross 1 in 6 women has been a victim of violent sexual assault at least once in their lives, according to RAINN. So no, I wouldn't exactly call needing to protect themselves "SO fucking unlikely."
@@jamesjross Well see what happens when someone breaks into your crib lmao
@Epstein didn't Kill him self If you don’t know how to use a gun you won’t have time to figure it out. And while you are figuring it out the attacker will charge and take the gun to use it against you.
I literally said “good Fucken luck” when she said that 😂😂
Flawless logic from that survivor. Being unarmed makes you safer when facing a violent criminal who wants to kill you. And you know this because the two of you were shot while unarmed.
If that man did not have easy access to guns she likely would not have been shot
I was thinking about this too.
@@nathanbruce1992 No just stabbed, beheaded, dropped in the river tied to weights, burned alive and or all sorts of other ways. Are you that thick headed?
@@pOOTERgOBLiN That's a nasty and very active imagination for mayhem and murder you have there. Have you sought counselling?
CalamityEnsues Why would they do it while someone was home? And please show me where I said it _doesn’t_ happen. It’s rare,certainly a lot rarer than gun manufacturers and their marketing departments would have you believe. Having a gun, is also no guarantee you're going to survive either.
@Nathan Bruce is on the money here. If there had been no gun in the house, she likely would not have been shot in the first place so pOOTERgOBLIN's comment is just the by product of an overactive and rather twisted imagination. Now, I'm not saying nothing would have happened but the presence of a gun made it much more likely shoe would die. It was also no guarantee of her safety.
"so I headed to texas"
*banjo music starts*
This video started out sort of unbiased but got super biased when they started bring the gun control crazies in for interviews
Noble Nomad Responsible journalism covers both sides of the story, not just the side that makes you feel good about yourself. You will note, of course, that they approached the NRA who waived their right to comment.
@@thethirdman225 note how at the end of the video they never discuss how many lives are saved by guns as well by defensive use. NRA probably doesn't care to speak anymore or they lied about trying to contact who knows but it rubs me the wrong way that they failed to include that info. It's biased it didn't start that way but it shows.
@@thebardock6785
*_"note how at the end of the video they never discuss how many lives are saved by guns as well by defensive use"_*
I don't even know where to start with this. The gun lobby is still quoting the same discredited 500,000 - 2 million DGUs per year and most people who quote it claim that equals 500,000 to 2 million lives saved, which is a massive leap of faith to say the least. More recent and credible research puts the figure much lower. The NCVS, which examines every crime on a case-by-case basis reports around 65,000 per year. Even that does not equate to 65,000 lives saved because we simply don't have enough information to make that judgement..
*_"NRA probably doesn't care to speak anymore or they lied about trying to contact "_*
This is ridiculous. No credible outlet is ever going to do that. The first the NRA would do is call them out on it.
It seems that everyone here has the same problem: you simply can't tolerate balanced reporting. By balanced I mean showing both sides of the story. You regard that as bias, lies, agenda-driven, irresponsible...call it what you will. You only want your side covered. Anyone with a better than room-temperature IQ can see that the reporter here not only approached the gun range but the NRA as well, giving the gun lobby not one but two opportunities to speak. I would say that would have given the gun lobby well over half the air time, granting them a slightly unfair advantage. Journalism is reporting what some people don't want to hear. Everything else is salesmanship (Hearst).
@@thethirdman225 so you consider Vice a credible outlet? Sorry but they lost all credibility a long time ago. You can argue with the numbers but they are still there and they shouldn't be discarded. Idk about the NRA but at some point in time you really just don't have the time to sit with people who just want to turn your words around.
@@thethirdman225 The numbers of defensive gun uses (DGUs) each year is controversial. But one study ordered by the CDC and conducted by The National Academies’ Institute of Medicine and National Research Council reported that, “Defensive use of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence”:
Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million, in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008.
Another study estimates there are 1,029,615 DGUs per year “for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere” excluding “military service, police work, or work as a security guard,” (within the range of the National Academies’ paper), yielding an estimate of 162,000 cases per year where someone “almost certainly would have been killed” if they “had not used a gun for protection.”
(In comparison, there were 11,208 homicide deaths by firearm in the US in 2012. There were a total of 33,636 deaths due to “injury by firearms,” of which the majority were suicides, 21,175.)
In short the numbers are still there and they shouldn't be descreditded or disregarded. It should also be noted that many gun violence numbers often include suicide itself. I don't if they don't cover my side by journalism should always stay neutral....im watching this to get a different perspective but when they don't include the other side then how can I possibly consider them credible? Anyway take care but you have to agree that's info that shouldn't be tossed aside