Can we start this junk yard Holden left sitting for decades?
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
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Rob...you made an old man happy watching this. Your persistence is something that is lacking in a lot of young folks these days. You just did not give up when a lot of people would have. So good to see the old 186 fire again. I once owned a 186 HT Premier with the Powerglide transmission. It was completely bulletproof in terms of mechanical strength. It's such a great pity that Holden is dead in Australia. This video proves, without a doubt, that Australian engineers could design and build great engines in this country. It's a pity that the pollies in Canberra let our car industry go toes-up. I congratulate you.
Hear, hear to everything you said. I can picture a tidy HT prem, 186 auto now. They were a nice car. The first car I saved out of a paddock was a HT Monaro that was being cut up for dirt track speedway. I have fond memories of that experiance, and the model in all body styles. Cheers Rob.
It's really not a Pity Holden is gone, they hadn't made (m)any decent cars since the mid 80's WB.
Totally agree with you great video love the old 186
Great to see an old red girl run again! Thanks Rob and gang.
ah the old holden red motor,
the aussie answer to the sbc :)
Pretty much. They have to be really bad before you can't get them to run.
Awesome Father's day .
Now that has to be the mother of all will it go videos! Excellent work. Your comment about broken rings in "reactivated" engines got me thinking, I had something similar happen years ago after getting a neglected Hillman running, after a few thousand miles had a broken ring. Interesting. Thanks!
Thanks for the feedback, the old broken ring in these situations is very common. We are now working on the sequel to this video, will it run on six cylinders, and move?
Cheers Rob and Deb.
cool vid Rob. I love the Holden red 6. I have 6 202s and a One Tonner with the mighty 202 and 5 speed commodore box Holley 350 carby...... as you do and the extractors. Shes a cool cruiser. Well done getting your 186 running. I knew it would. You know your Reds.
Great to see some aussie will it runs :D
Thank you so much for this video. I learnt so much. I definitely what to see more of this type of video. Next I'd like to see that engine and transmission run. What I'd really like to see is taking an old cheap v8 or i6 1960s or 1970s car/ute and restoring it just enough to make it road worthy. Basically get it back on the road with limited effort/skills.
We love to be doing exactly this. The sad reality is we need to grow the channel to fund it, the old catch 22 situation. We hope to be able to reach this goal.
Love it - good to see the old Holden run once again
Great video! Would be keen to see more like this. Cheers.
Kiwi here, me dad had the HT Kingswood 186. In factory teal blue. Original louvres, was bloody quick too. Then I fell in love with our Valiant ranger 318
Beautiful cars. All of them and we had more than the 2 lol I think my dad and my uncles loved cars wouldn't you say.
Best days of me life.
Loved it Rob, Deb and Bill!
Just for the record ;-) Ford 32-48 Ignition ballast resistors have a positive temperature coefficient; as they get hotter their resistance increases. When they are cold they will give full battery voltage when cranking, typically 4.5V. And when the engine starts the resistor will get hot and give around 4.5V to the coil. If you crank the engine a lot, it will become warm and there will be a loss of voltage, causing the engine not to start. So back then they took a Nickel and shorted the resistor under the dash, that's called "Giving it a Nickel"
As an Aussie, l have not heard the giving it a nickle term before. Thank you for sharing. 👍 Cheers Rob.
WOW! Seems like yesterday. As teens we spent WAY too much time blowing up multiple engines (7), gearboxes and diffs (maybe a dozen!) on the poor suffering white HK in about '76-77. Even down to a Yella Terra head and extractors. Everything your did seemed like yesterday to me! Gave me warm happy feelings. Hearty Cheers! Yes, take the intake off and get some WD into it. The valves will free up. Oh and we had the v8 radiator in ours! ha! Absolutely LOVED THIS!!!!
For me this is the best feedback ever. To relive precious memories is always a wonderful thing, super stoked to have triggered treasured memories for you. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Rob.
That an excellent starter motor 😉
The old Aussie Bosch starter, they will take a hammering.👍
I love all of your videos keep them up can’t get enough of it
Thanks Rob, Deb and Bill. I was someone who requested a 'will it start' video from you and that was awesome to watch.
Happy to oblige. We had fun making it, and we now have it running on six. Trying for a move under its own power follow up. Cheers Rob.
Well done rob you can't kill a red motor even the starter is unbreakable 💪
Outstanding effort guys, the 5 cyl Holden is alive! "free that up and she'de run sweet".
Or just put the 6th lead on
Great to see the weeds fly back when that stubborn ol' tart fired up !! I guess the odds were against you ,Rob, with 3 outa 6 inlet valves stuck open ,not allowing a compression or effective firing strokes to happen for half the engine ! On the positive side, it shows that the valves guides clearance is close ( not much wear) and the stem seals have kept the guides free from the sludge that is heavy everywhere else in that sorry 186...Now you just gotta buff the paint..happy Fathers Day, Rob.
Great video, thank you. Subscribed
Great vid mate with some helpful hints.
I have my grandfathers HR bought from new . It has 73,000 original miles, but has been sitting for years. I actually have a ring kit for it as when i stopped
driving it i thought it had done one or 2, since found out it was more than likely a valve spring .
If and when i find time to start it i will re ring it , thanks to your advice.
Cheers and thank you mate !
Top job! next time get it to move. ps seen the latest episode trying to unstick that valve , good luck with the project,
Great special effects
Excellent, thank you 🙂👍
Good stuff!! talk about the world's most stubborn red motor
It was pretty defiant, I've been thinking about putting it in gear and see if it will move.😉
Love premiers .
got my licence with eh holden. best car ever owned. we also converted an hr to ute to carry our dirt bikes around the riverina. n.s.w. mum used to drive to sydney and back on the old hume hwy. 7-8hour drive one way, with the dog sitting in the back window. they were precious memories. built like a tank,mum hit about 3 kangaroos in it.tuff as teak, more reliable then the nightly news. and certainly more stylish. they dont make em like they used ta.
Awesome video, keep it up!
Body still looks in great condition. Shit mate you could almost drive away in it. Some would say she hasnt even spread her legs yet.
Love this video
What the heck rusted out old Holden wakes up my goodness these cars just don’t fricken die.
We are currently trying to make it drive, getting close.
@@robsshed I have a 1993 VP Commodore still on the road and fully registered does that surprise you.
@@woodss82 good to hear, my 1967 HR is still fully licenced and clocking about 3000 kms a year.
@@robsshed great, do you remember those or seen those model Commodore’s
@@woodss82 thousand of them, I owned a mechanical repair shop when they were new. I have done pretty much every type of repair on those cars. I love the v6 engine and have transplanted many of them into other types of cars.
Great vid mate !
186 Heads on 202 blocks were a good mod apparently went straight on with a smaller combustion chamber.
Big Rob, love your content and knowledge mate! You need to give the boys over hack shop garage a hand with their old Gemi!!
If they get really stuck they can reach out to me, but you what I recon they will get it sorted. 😉
love what you're doing just thought you could work on your editing keep your journey alive ✨️ 🙏🏼
Daily red start up, see your authorised technision, just jokes lol
too true with the top piston rings. i got 12,000 miles on the engine in my hr before it blew all rings and spun all bearing from previous owner running it without the radiator! if it wasnt for the spun rod bearings it would have ran for another 10,000 miles. the joys of an ole red motor...
will u ever use the motor and gearbox for something, and great job ..
Great video guys. I guess the body is beyond saving? Cheers
Well past it. Watch part two, and you will see. Cheers Rob and Deb.
I found it really easy to build old school engine compared to modern.
For old school, all u need to know is where all the wiring connected to, gas and electric. There is no freakn sensors or whatsoever.
Great vid tho. Cheers
You'll skyrocket doing these in australia mate, for sure!
Not to detract from your clip, but if that's a '71, I'll eat gorilla shit.
Pretty certain that in '68, the HK came out. I had a blue one, with the enormous 161 engine.
It was a basic car, wasn't fast, but it was a smooth old thing. I miss it, especially considering what it would be worth today.
I had a '65 HD Premier. next model up was the HR, which it looks as though you have.
A '71 ought to be an HT, followed by the HG.
Then we get onto the HQ, etc.
Best explanation of ballast resistors I've ever heard.
Fuel, Ignition and air!
Should start.
Thanks guys, and you have a gem there.
Regarding piston rings - IME the 202 is the worst for that, and #6 pistons.
its a stage one or two,3 is allen keyed down u have head studs...
Thanks for the info, I had been thinking along the same line as that.
We need a good Earth on this engine the whole car is bloody Earth
The big thing here is finding a "good" earth. Not easy in a sea of rust. Thank you for watching. Cheers Rob and Deb.
The 186 was not an original motor for HQ onward. The 202 was introduced then. My brother was a mechanic at the Holden Dealers at Inverell NSW, when the HQ was released. A Google search also says a 173 6 cylinder, and 4.2 and 5 litre V8.
Bit confused here, yes you are correct, and l don't believe I said a HQ would have a 186. This car is a HG made just before the HQ production comenced, it features a few HQ parts because of this. In a response to another comment I mentioed I drove a HQ ute for many years that had a 186 in it, but it came from the factory with a 202. My Dad (previous owner) put the 186 in it when the original 202 got smokey. Hope this clears it up. Thank you for watching cheers Rob.
Reminds me of me with cars.
Hoping that they are good memories. Thanks for watching.
Cheers Rob.
Yer i got a mazda bravo 2.6 was only 68 on it. But from sittin so long had to do most caskets an veryting corodible. Engine seems happy tho like it. Not cheap tho.
Yer master n slave asweel didnt like the time off.
My mistake.
It's hard to tell, but it MAY be a '71.
Excuse me jumping the gun there.
So much missing off it, but the radiator support panel looks pretty much '70 to '72.
It is fourth month 1971, last month of HG production.
I think my first 6 cars had a version of this Holden engine.
That HR Holden next to the HT,is it going to be parted out ?.If the subframe is good or repairable ,let me know please.
When scrap steal hit $400 a tonne back in 2006-07,so many cars crushed.And the Ex,sold all my parts,so I'm on the hunt,thanks in advance.Regards J.
EDIT: @5:32 You got a 186S HR,if you have a spare K Block 186,that's what my old girl is.That HT Premiere shell,shame she got cut.Prems had different pillars at the rear of the roof
better shaped than the Kingswood.
Is for resale tho. Will keep mine its a classic
do you get big huntsmans spiders in that old Ford. I used to own a HK HT HG Holden in the 80s and 90s and I would love to have one again
Yes we get the huntsman spiders and plenty of red backs as well. Thanks for watching. Cheers Rob and Deb.
Ford man but the 186 a great engine
We have a Ford video coming up next, I think you will enjoy it. Yes the old red 186 was a remarkable engine. Thanks for watching. Cheers Rob and Deb.
Surface rust will tend to build up thicker on the inside corner of the bore ridge. Just deridge like you would when changing rings. Problem solved.
I have had them break rings with no detectable ridge in the bores as well. For sure a well worn engine left, carbon deposits and dried up oil can prop the ring to the point of impact on the ridge all makes sense. Thank you for sharing to our youtube community, it is appreciated. Cheers Rob.
The vh on the truck is worth money
Its got grass, brm brm.
It must be a 5/71. Last of the HGs and first of the HQs.
Old gunkers left for years,, the bores are all rust and that breaks the rings. Seen it a heap of times. Why I would never rely on an old engine without at least a kero rebuild. Though the waterjackets will be very rusty,, sometimes into the bores. Seen that also,, rebuild and then they split or have a bore weeping. Our Aussie engines seldom ever saw actual coolant,, just tap water
I have to agree here, this lines up with my experiance exactly. The Premier is tagged 4/71, but the steering box date is somewhere in the last four or five days of the month. Cheers Rob.
The utes and panel vans ran out to about September or October that year. The commercial versions often trailed the passenger models by a few months.
lol, even as a 5 cylinder it still runs better than the 4 cylinder Starfire engine GMH used
Many years ago I made the mistake of fitting an alloy timing gear to a Starfire 4, you wouldn't believe the noise it made. Couldn't leave it running for more than about 30 seconds. Straight back out and put a fiber one in it. Lesson learned. Definately one of GMH's failures.
Thanks for watching. Cheers Rob and Deb.
Just 2 questions for you, why do you have so much junk on your little world, and what does Debbie look like?.
Is that a Gemini I can see in the background of the vid
Yes. Good spot.
@@robsshed Have you got any plans for it in the future
It's a parts car for the one we have on the road, just in case of accidents.
After the apocalypse, thousands of people will be doing this, and wishing they'd paid closer attention.
would that valve free itself after running a while
Not with this one, as we found out in part two the valve stem was rusted badly from having had water in the intake manifold. Sometimes a valve that has just stuck from sitting will free with the engine warming up, but often the camshaft will be damaged from the cam hitting the lifter that will be floating. The cam relies on the valve spring to keep the lifter tight against the camshaft. Cheers Rob.
do you come accross the datsun 180b car?
you should drag it out of its grave and chuck some wheels on it and see if it will still drive
Not such a bad idea, part two will be out this week. Cheers Rob and Deb.
Needs a can of start ya barsted lol
Jeeesus, that poor starter. If it doesnt fire on a couple of revolutions find out why.
And it's never going to run on that cylinder with no plug lead on it either!!..
With the intake valve jammed wide open, the engine wasn't going to run at all with the intake air/fuel charge burning in the manifold. I removed the lead to stop the plug from firing the charge. Hope this explains why it was off. I did mention this in the video. Cheers Rob.
It shouldn't be that hard!
Who else was screaming at the screen, spark plug lead off
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Dont waste an hour of your life, it dont run
Sadly soon all combustion cars including classics will be banned from public streets in entire EU and Scandinavia :-(
In Germany the Green Peoples Party gave order to shorten fuel supply from 2025 on by reducing all conventional fuel stations to only one state operated central gas station per city or county. Now they want to slow down all the gas station pumps from 20 litre per minute to 2 litre per minute...From 2027 on in the EU certain car spare parts will be banned too....as exhaust systems, turbo chargers and even some engine and gearbox oils...California and New York will do the same from 2027 on.... So no investments should be done in oil burning cars any longer....They even created a new kind of crime here, called emissions and smoke crime (Bundesabgasbespassungsverbotsverordnung)!!!!!!
That’s not going to happen in Australia any time soon. We have one of the slowest uptakes of EVs of any country.
here in Elizabeth, the folk are currently learning how to syphon batteries in lue of society going all EV 🤣😅