Canon EOS R5 Definitive Camera Review | 4K
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Finally! The King is back with the “definitive review” we needed. You’re amazing Dustin!!!
Well this one is a big time definitive review!
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Only 2 people I have come to trust for their camera/lens opinion you Mr A and Roger from lensrentals. You sir are a gem in a sea of costume jewelry 💖🙏
That's great company. Thank you very much!
You might give up others, but never stop DEFINITIVE REVIEWS, please!
That does seem to be my thing.
This is the most comprehensive review of the R5's stills capability yet. Kudos. I already bought the R6. Very happy. I'm a year away (budget) from the R5 or whatever high-res stills-oriented body Canon releases. But I expect to be equally pleased when I get one or the other. Canon's bad press re overheating is from their own marketing miscue.
I agree on the marketing issue. Canon hyped that aspect of the camera beyond its actual capabilities.
At the same time, it is somewhat understood why they hyped the video features as much as they did. If they just marketed it as a phenomenal stills camera, it’d get some attention but probably not to the degree that they may have wanted, especially since the trend for mirrorless is to create “hybrids”, cameras that can do video almost as well as stills.
While the R5 didn’t quite live up to the bombastic hype for video, I still think it is more competent for some video work than many people realize. Obviously, there are better video-centric options if your video needs are more comprehensive (and I don’t mean dedicated video cameras, moreso video-oriented hybrids like Sony’s a7Siii and Panasonic’s S1H) and the modes that go 8K or utilize an 8K supersample have limited use-cases at this point, but the line-skipped full-frame 4K (or the S35 oversampled 4K) looks to work fine enough for those who might not have comprehensive video needs and are probably just after a photo-camera that can double as a decent video rig on the side.
I am a huuuuuuuge fan of how well spoken Mr. Abbott is, you just have to appreciate how well mannered and presented these reviews are, period.
Thank you very much.
I just bought this camera as an upgrade over my 90D and an entry into the mirrorless world and after watching your video I‘m so excited to finally get it into my hands! It should be a whole another world of photography.
You'll enjoy it!
@@DustinAbbottTWI Can you recommend any specific speedlite or something along the line for action shots? If possible not too expensive haha. Maybe there's a budget friendly option that does decent enough.
As a Sony shooter that has been waiting for a Canon mirrorless body worthy of grabbing to experience the amazing RF glass, I finally grabbed the R6. Very nice body and the video limitations aren’t a problem for me as I’m more of a stills shooter.
Canon and Sony seem to be the 2 front runners in the industry so I’ll juggle both systems until one seems to pull away far enough to drop the other.
Which Sony do you own, and how does af compare between the two?
I look forward to testing the R6, and yes, I too use both Sony and Canon bodies.
@@DustinAbbottTWI But will you be honest this time? That's what everyone really wants to know.
@@youknowwho9247 I’ve been on the Sony system since: NEX-5n, A7ii, A7Rii, A7Riii, A7iii. At the moment I only have the A7iii. I ended up selling off A7Riii because I didn’t need 42mp and there wasn’t a way to reduce to small or medium RAW (not compressed and uncompressed). So I can comment on a7iii vs R6. I can say that I don’t really see a big different in my casual shooting, both were great to use. It was more understanding the AF modes and areas available and how to use them. I would also add that it appears the R6 focus in dark settings was a tad more consistent. Regardless, AF isn’t an issue on either.
I have heard that the R6 dynamic range matches a7iii,on papper is about 0.4 less which is almost non visible with eye,but in real world shooting should be the same ?
I can happily say that I have been shooting with my new R5 for a month and is the best camera I've ever used. absolutely outstanding!!! Thanks for your reviews!!
I love it, too.
I click Like before I even seen it. When Dustin talks for 55 minutes it must be about something to like.
That's the longest piece of content I've ever put out. There's so much new to cover as a part of this.
Hi Dustin. I was going to get an R5 but a few things delayed it. Watched the review ages ago and finally got the £££ and bought one to replace my old 1DX and 7D2 of the back of your review. I am totally stunned as to what this camera can do. Its small, typical Canon easy to use . But what it can do, stunned, the image quality is so far ahead of what I have. Its made photography easier and the quality just better. Thanks for your review, it convinced me and its been worth every penny.
That's pretty much the way I feel about the R5
Outstanding review of the Canon eos R5. After doing some research, I watched your definitive review and was sold. I purchased the eos R5 today. Thanks for another one of your very thorough and objective reviews. I appreciate the work you put into these videos and reviews.
Thanks, Joe. I hope you enjoy the camera as much as I've been!
I tested out the R5 three weeks ago. Nice camera. But being a DSLR user, I'm not used to the smaller chassis, the R5 doesn't feel like a full camera in the hands, and the controls a little too close to one another. I would prefer a larger chassis (the size of their regular DSLR) for better (personal) ergonomics, and also having a larger chassis would allow space for a larger battery to make up for the much lower shot capacity with each battery charge. It's hard to get used to getting only 300-400 shots per battery vs 1000 shots on a 5D.
That's interesting, as the EOS R5 is probably one of the largest FF mirrorless bodies in existence. It all depends on what you're used to!
Thanks Dustin... here more than a year later I finally converted from my 5D mIV. Can't wait to use the R5.
I think you'll love it. It's an amazing camera.
Awesome review as usual. I've owned the r5 and r6 since it's release and I have to say they are the best cameras I've ever owned!
I'm hearing a lot of that from people who have actually used the camera, and then a few (who probably haven't) rebuking me for not trashing it over the overheating issue.
Hey Dustin,
I have been a professional commercial photographer most of my adult life. Currently doing outdoor scenics and working my Instagram “hallbergphoto”. Being in the process of replacing my entire camera system, reviews like yours are priceless, informative and to the point without hype, thank you. Your are a definite standout on the Internet and RUclips.
I did purchase a Canon EOS R about a year ago and the autofocus did not work so had it refurbished by Canon, it’s an OK camera with some great menu options and overall workflow but lack in much of the actual implementation. I have been using a Sony a7III and once the menus are customized and set, work great.
After your extremely informative review I will check out the EOS R5.
One deal-breaker on the R is the Histogram view in the viewfinder, it is large and can only be seen together with the also large and obnoxious level, which in most cases is not needed. On the Sony I have a small gray Histogram at the bottom Right of the viewfinder and as it is not in the way of composing never turned off.
Thank you again; you efforts are very much appreciated and a great asset making a camera purchase selection.
Regards,
Stefan
That's a valid point about the histogram. It is oversized. I personally like having the level, but would like a much smaller histogram to accompany it. And yes, the EOS R has some admirable qualities, and some other areas where it was left really incomplete.
@@DustinAbbottTWI In your opinion, is the EOS R5 generally more complete with overall better implementation than the R?
Wow, what an awesome camera... & review! I use the 5 D4 professionally & was curious whether the R5 had it beat. Someday I may upgrade if I ever get back to events shooting when the pandemic ends.
I personally like it better.
Respect. I think you respect yourself and that translates to respect for your viewers. It’s a joy to see pleasure when experiencing excellence as you show when describing Canon’s improvements. More practically, you relate facts to experience. Your research becomes accessible and useful. One of my favorite things is that you refer to notes, rather than hyperbole and showmanship. I tip my hat to a professional.
Thank you, Jim
Fastest click I made in life
That's very kind.
FYI if you are looking for a combined L-bracket and grip extension for the R5, I took a risk and bought the Stabil LCR5. While I had never heard of the company and the finish isn't world class, the machining is great and it is actually a more secure fit than the SmallRig L-Bracket for the A7RIII that I believe you also use. The Stabil costs over $100 and comes from Vietnam, so value isn't as strong with SmallRig products, but I don't know of any other competing option with the same features and the increased security of its attachment makes it worth it.
I actually have the L Bracket from Small Rig, but I don't give the side extension on them.
I was waiting for this one. R5 amazing camera. Eye focus and tracking on Sony level. Animal eye focus is sick. Works on fish too. Canon is ahead now with that RF glass
I think you'll enjoy the review, then.
The Canon AF for video at least isn't that great; check out what others are saying about it...it can perform rather poorly in fact.
@@MichaelRichards983 roger. Buy a dedicated video camera. The is first a camera. Not a video camera. This is probably the best CAMERA out there.
@@samhartwig4640 Canon stated themselves that this is an 'A camera' that could be used in video productions....drop the ignorant statements.
The R5 has serious problems with not only overheating but quality with numerous accounts of problem LCD screens, blackout issues and poor AF. Also, DR!
@@MichaelRichards983 I have a great idea for u. Don’t buy it. Conversation over
One thing I have been studying lately and good to remember when using higher pixel density sensors, like the 45Mp in R5, is DLA effect.
Like with the RF 600mm or 800mm f/11 lense on the R5 you don't get any more resolving power by adding a teleconverter.
With R5 the DLA effect begins already at f/6,6 (airy disc 2x pixel diameter). But it's really hard to notice so the typical formula used gives a value of f/8,2 (airy disc 2,5x pixel diameter). It's typically considered that DLA takes "full effect" when the airy disc from the diffraction reach 3x pixel diameter - in the R5's case at f/9,8.
Even though the "maximum" DLA value is f/9,8 there is no real harm in using f/11 lens. But for easier composition/viewing it's probably better to use the APS-C crop mode instead of adding a teleconverter.
Please notice that these DLA numbers are totally different for R6. They are: f/9,8, f/12,4 and f/14,6. So with f/11 lens on R6 you could possibly get some additional resolving power by using a 1,4x TC.
Here is a link to DLA calculator. You can use any camera model with correct sensor size and just type in the proper resolution.
www.photopills.com/calculators/diffraction
That's true, which is why the F11 lenses strike me as, well, odd. The idea of sticking a TC on a lens with a maximum aperture of F11 already just seems wacky to me.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Yeah, and that 800mm has so long minimum focusing distance. So if it were 400mm f/5,6 instead it could be used in lower light and focus closer. And then, if so chosen, by adding 2x TC would result 800mm f/11 but still with closer minimum focusing distance.
Owned the camera for months already, but still liked to hear your thoughts. Thanks
You're welcome.
Hi Dustin, just wanted to say thank you for your thoughtful and detailed review. I recently purchased the R5 and your input was invaluable. I was using both the R and the 90D for different things and really wanted to simplify my gear to a one camera setup. The R5 really does it all well regardless of genre. I enjoy landscape, wildlife, sport and the occasional event/portrait photography and this camera is truly the Swiss army knife of cameras. First camera I've owned that didn't feel compromised in some way. I don't do much video. Thanks again and take care.
That sounds like a fair assessment of the R5. It does pretty much everything well.
Something to note is that third party lenses may not work with the IBIS of the R5. While my two Sigma Art lenses work well with the IBIS, my Tamron 35 1.4 doesn't work at all with it and the IBIS option is greyed out in the menu. A true shame as the 35 1.4 is my favorite lens.
Tamron published a statement about that, saying it will eventually be fixed with firmware.
It's true that some lenses are going to need firmware for compatibility. It's a fairly common third party lens problem when Canon releases something radically different. I'm sure the firmware updates will come soon enough.
Great Review Dustin. I assumed for what I read that adapted vintage lenses like old Takumars won't be able to use IBIS at all?.
Not a Canon guy, but great video, Dustin! The most thorough and objective reviews on RUclips.
I appreciate that!
I agree 👍 I'm not a canon person. I'm a fujifilm / Nikon type of guy. Though I do see the Canon is getting better and that's good! I appreciate your in depth video :) now, I want nikon to improve their AF and other features. Hopefully, they do :D other than that. Good job Canon!
Hi Dustin, very nice review. I sold all my sony gear and went back to canon, it was my first brand and after all those years, im back to canon. I wasnt taking my camera (A7RIV) a lot with me as i used to do with my canon camera's, thats why i switched back. Now its glued in my hand lol.
Some systems suit some people, and it’s important to shoot with something you enjoy
I should stop watching your video, because I end up wanting whatever you’re reviewing. If you review an aircraft, I’d buy it 🤣🤣 thank you Dustin! 👍
Great in depth review! I realized the dynamic range had improved in R5 but it is through this video that I have a better grasp of how far I can go in over & under exposing. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Long waited review,thank you !As always Dustin Abbott best reviews in RUclips,keep up the great work !
Thanks, will do!
I watched the R6 Definitive review which then led me to this one. Both are really informative. I can’t really see the R6 as a natural upgrade to the R, given the lower resolution so I guess I had better start saving for the much more expensive R5. I love the in camera crop mode and the autofocus looks such a huge step up from the R. Many thanks Dustin.
I bought the R5, and I think you will love it.
Congrats on another professional, unbiased review!
Congrats to Canon for making such a well engineered camera.
I thought you gave the right balance of perspective to what this camera can/can’t do.
Yes it overheats in video, but stills are it’s main priority. If video was the priority, they
Easily make it bigger and allow for external heat sinks.
I have an SonyA7R3, not because I wanted a small Mirrorless, but because I
Feel DSLR, has been taken as far as possible, but Mirrorless can offer so much more.
I supported Sony, as without them, the big 2 would still be pushing DSLR.
Sadly I doubt I will purchase the R5 as it’s high price and travel restrictions,
mean I have an expensive camera to shoot the backyard.
Maybe in a couple of years!
Thanks for the feedback, and yes, it is expensive to switch systems.
Thank you for taking the time for this great and detailed review, and also for making it easy to understand, even for a non-pro like me. I've been ogling this camera ever since its announcement (currently shoot Canon 5dm4) and your review definitely makes me want to take the leap, even though as a hobby photographer, I cannot really justify the expense. The 5R seems to bring a few things that have been on my "perfect camera wish list." I don't need this camera but sure do want it now. I look forward to watching more of your reviews. Thank you!
Hi Karin, glad that I helped out...or made your life more complicated...or something ;)
5DM4 is still and will always remain a beast of a camera. Capable to handle the most demanding of situations for most people. Trust me I have one and it still pays the bills.
definitely one of the better R5 reviews especially the thorough assessment of the dynamic range.
Thanks - I do my best to be thorough and not derivative.
Excellent camera! Canon knows how to deliver, but sadly, only when they need to.
There's some truth to that.
That's how competition works.
You are only competitive with some strong competition.
Only when the unit is not hit by Canon Cripple Hammer
At 44:05 The Sony isn't focused to the same location (see the author name on the book), may also influence the color with that wide aperture lens and certainly reduced the contrast on the SLR texture.
I think you are overselling the influence of a minor focus variance. The aperture is F5.6, so a fair bit is in focus.
Amazing review! Thank you for this very deep dive. I was very fortunate to get mine at launch, I can concur with everything you said. I also had the R, it was good, but feels like a preview system to the R(RF mount. This R5 is the benchmark for Canon, a great start of the mirrorless chapter for them!
That's a very good summation.
Thank you for the awesome review.
Currently the Eos R is 2/3 EV brighter in Lightroom than the R5 at the same settings, so when lifting exposure during the dynamic range test, note that the R picture is much brighter and so it's normal to show more noise. Also when testing for highlight retention, it is normal for the R to clip sooner as it exposes brighter...
The EOS R is not 2/3rds of a stop brighter. It's not even 1/3rd stop. I actually found their results more similar than different. Both are considerably brighter than the Sony a7rIII that I used as a third data point.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I must say, that it's not true. 37:19 EOS R at ISO 25600 (same shutter speed, aperture, lens) is at least 1/2 or maybe 2/3 EV brighter than R5 (just look at the clock or background). Many people have already noticed that both the EOS R5 and R6 have different exposure, and this way achieve better noise ratings for the same ISO (uneven exposure is also true for lower ISO). Don't you really see that?
You always present an extremely professional, detailed review, thank you. To me the negative hype about the overheating is the belief that the R5 is a video camera. To me it is a stills camera that does some (impressive video). It flies in the face of logic to ask a camera with a very small form factor and weather (and thus thermal) sealing to dissipate the heat generated by high-resolution video. If videographers really want a video camera to use for extended periods, the newer EOS R5c seems like a much better bet, or an actual dedicated video camera.
I had to smile at your comment about it being cooler in Canada - recent record temperatures experienced in my home province of BC and those of Alberta and Saskatchewan are showing that is not necessarily the case any more.
I have a couple of R6 units and I love the low-light performance of these cameras, but I am likely going to reach for an R5 to get the extra resolution so I can crop for my wildlife shots. For me the IBIS+ILIS and focus-tracking are game changers.
I agree both at the R5 is an excellent camera and also that the early hype about overheating was certainly overstated
So wish I could afford the R5. Over $6k here in Australia. But the R6 is pretty darned good.
This is the best review I have ever watched. Great work. Thank you so much.
Wow - that's high praise!
Finally back on the R5. Still own an a7r IV, but eventually it will probably be all canon. Love the colors of it. Will probably buy an 24-70 2.8 rf as an walkaround lens. Thanks for a great review, as always :)
Glad to help out
I've been waiting for this video for months! Many, many thanks.
You're very welcome!
Thank you Dustin you may be a little late to the party but a far better review and a review that not only talks about the "over heating" but about the camera . and that is what we all want it for . I've had the EOS R for a year now and looking forward to the R5 when the UK get Stock but in that time I have never used the video side LOL in fact I have only just set the setting for it just in case.
and hearing the words "Impressed "from you make a big difference as you see so many cameras, so to be impressed shows us that Canon have done it right this time
It kind of drives me crazy that most RUclips reviews tend to be obsessive over one thing that everyone gets worked up over
Always impartial and right to the point, always in depth , thoroughly & comprehensive , great work Dustin !!!
Thank you very much.
What I like about your reviews, honest, straight forward, unbiased. Great review Dustin.
Thank you very much.
Great review and thanks for all the time spent to make it. Happy you purchased one as I would like to see more on the field review now, usability, setting sensitivity, different scenarios,... and lens performances. I’m looking forward to your R system development
It certainly does offer up opportunities for a lot of different angles.
A couple of things that factor into the buffer comparison is the fact that one can shoot in craw on the R5, so that buffer size goes up due to the smaller 45MP files compared to not using craw. the other factor has to do with using the CFe card which then allows the buffer to clear much faster. I don’t know what the answer to these would be on the two Sony cameras.
I did add the CRaw figures in this video, but yes, the buffer definitively clears faster on the EOS R5
I agree - I got 17 seconds storing RAW to *only* the CF Express card before the buffer filled. I think it was electronic shutter @ 20 fps, but it was a while ago when I tried it. That's a lot of shots!
For me you are one of the trustworthy reviewers on RUclips please as comparision add some Nikon z series camera and lenses
Hi Cem, sorry, but I don't do Nikon reviews. I just don't have time, desire, or money to add a fourth camera system.
Best R5 review so far!
Thank you very much - it was a LOT of work.
The king is back. Long live the king! And their 1.2 glass! Haha
And now they need to flesh out their system with more affordable options...and third party development is desperately needed!
@@DustinAbbottTWI Nah, just tons of more NATIVE 1.2 primes and 1.4 zooms please. I won't begrudge them that rumored 500 2.8 either!
Dpreview just added R5 to their Exposure Latitude Scene,i downloaded R5 and A7r4 booth 5 stops underexposed raw files,i never thought i will say this,but Canon has slightly better recovery at 5 stops than A7r4...pure monster,good job Canon !!Note that i downscaled a7r4 file to the R5 resolution and still Canon is cleaner.
Interesting. Canon has done a great job here.
51:59 - There are no options for smaller *RESOLUTION* raw files on the EOS R or the EOS R5. You can get a smaller *FILE SIZE* by choosing the other raw option in the menu but it will still be 45MP. I wish they did offer lower resolution raw files like the 5D Mk4 did.
That's true...and something I discovered after finishing this review. I was shocked, as MRAW and SRAW had always been options previously.
@@DustinAbbottTWI - Hopefully they bring this back in a firmware update. I shot the EOS R at the full resolution all the time because 30MP was OK with me, I didn't even realize it had this limitation until I got the EOS R5 and wanted to dial down the resolution from 45MP. When I noticed the lack of raw *resolution* options in the EOS R5 it made me take a look at the EOS R and it was the same thing there.
Some events I shoot won't need the full 45MP resolution, so I'd really like the smaller raw options that the 5D Mk4 had. With all that computing power available this shouldn't be a difficult ask.
Good things are worth waiting for. Both the camera and the review!
I know the camera is, but I'm glad you think the review was, too.
great review, Dustin! at 51:58, you mention m-RAW and s-RAW... I was quite certain the R5 doesn't have that, please confirm? I would love to see it in this camera but I think Canon has abandoned these modes!
You're correct. I had assumed it was there because it always has been, but it seems like Canon has moved to the Sony model and offers uncompressed and compressed RAW modes instead at full resolution.
@@DustinAbbottTWI yeah, that's a bit of a shame, I would have considered the sRAW and mRAW modes VERY useful with this now higher resolution 45 Megapixel sensor. The cRAW is useful too, they shouldn't have been exclusive.
I kinda assumed it would have mraw and I would have used it most of the time. But Craw isn't bad. And I guess I can always crop.
I believe the Mechanical shutter creates 14 bit raw, the electronic shutter creates a 13 bit raw. (Crippled to make 20fps doable).
Bird photographers seem to think that for birds the electronic shutter has less shots out of focus than mechanical with stationary birds at least.
I'm not sure that I saw less shots out of focus, but you do get the advantage of nearly twice as many different "poses" in your action subjects.
Amazing review, and very much what I’ve found shooting this camera since the end of July. And being a Canon, it just works and feels good doing it.
I’ve recently found its added new life into some of my older non-stabilized EF and EF-S lenses. One in particular is the Sigma 10-20 f3.5 crop lens. It’s a 16-35 equivalent in the crop mode on this camera, and using it in 4K with IBIS on this camera means I won’t be jumping to buy the RF15-35 soon.
I also have had the R since it came out, and the R5 aid a real nice pairing. They both work great with thebC100/200s I use at work.
That sounds about right. It is a great camera to actually use.
Great Review Abbott. Ok, in your own personal opinion. I want to go back to Canon. I am currently on the Sony a9II. I shoot my wildlife with that camera . Do you think I could use this camera for Wildlife and Landscape?
It behaves very similarly to the a9II for tracking, so I don't think you lose anything for wildlife.
Hey Dan, some interesting tidbits I have learned following various professionals in their usage of the EOS R5.
The EOS R5 seems to have a serious rolling shutter effect with straight lines and fast-moving objects. Dan Szpakowski, the New York Jets team Photographer, pointed out that the camera is basically unusable for most of his work because the issue has been so bad. Unknown if it is specific to his unit.
The other issue for some professionals is the undisclosed features of the cameras FPS dropping to 10 FPS mechanical when the battery drops below 60% as well as it dropping to 10 FPS with WiFi-enabled. Some people are also not thrilled that the $900 WiFi grip doesn't give any added battery life as you need one battery to power the camera and then another for the grip itself.
Just some interesting info I've seen talked about between many professionals who have been using the camera. I think if the rumor proves true that Canon is moving to a global shutter sensor with the inevitable R1 flagship, the rolling shutter effect is a moot point. But the FPS cripple hammer moves need to be resolved.
Great video as always.
Interesting, as I specifically testing rolling shutter and didn't find it to significant. I think the a9 and its electronic shutter is marginally better, but not by much. I haven't seen the FPS drop with lower battery life as well, though even if it were true, it would still match the a9II's mechanical shutter burst. I'm skeptical about that claim, however, as I'm pretty sure I've shot burst under those conditions without the frame rate dropping. I haven't tested with WiFi enabled, as I don't actually have an application for that.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Very interesting, just thought it was worth throwing your direction as I always enjoy watching your reviews and seeking my own info to go in addition with them. Glad we could cross notes like this.
The big question is, will these cameras ever become available to the general public? The way it is going the R5 Mark ii will be announced before the original R5 is in the hands of more than a few photographers. When this camera was first rumored two years ago it was a futuristic dream camera. When "development" was announced a year ago it still sounded very impressive. When it was "released" months ago, other manufacturers were already announcing cameras to compete with it. Now, months later, camera stores still are unable to get it and it almost feels like yesterday's news!
There's no question that the pandemic has really negatively impacted their supply lines. I've seen delays on other gear, too, however. I find it hard to judge too harshly when so many things have been impacted this year.
If you mainly are a still images shooter, no video, is EOS R6 a viable option vs R5?
in my opinion, yes! i got the R6 and the biggest difference in comparison to the R5 is the resolution. 20mp is enough for me :) But i dont shoot Birds where ive to crop a lot.
Resolution is a big distinguishing factor, obviously, but if you don't want/need the higher resolution, then the R6 is probably a great camera. I do intend to review it in the near future.
All of your videos are so helpful. Thanks I appreciate it!
Question, your audio is awesome. What microphone system do you use & edit with?
God bless.
Hi Denise, I use this wireless system: bhpho.to/3tNIdRV. I really like it. Very plug and play and good sound quality.
I received my R5 on release day but have still been looking forward to watching your review. Great review as usual!
Thanks, Justin.
The always-informative review from DA 🤙. Do you plan to do something similar on the EOS R6? Thanks for our detailed reviews.
I'm working on it right now.
Best camera review on the net. Thanks Dustin, ordering one tomorrow.
Glad it was helpful!
Great review Dustin!
Would you be able to advise if R5 is on par for
: autofocus performance / focusing spread vs Sony A9
: iso performance vs Sony A9
It really feels very similar in performance to the a9. That's very high praise for a camera that also has 45 Mpx of resolution!
Dustin, thanks for a wonderful, full depth review of the R5. Like you said some vloggers just centre on 1 aspect of the camera, the video overheating, and flog it to death, forgetting that this is a photo camera first and a video camera second. If the want a video camera they should go look at the new Canon C70.
Thanks, Ross. I just find that many reviews tend to get obessive.
Great review! Waiting for my R5 since 2 months already
Hope you enjoy it!
Excellent review.
Thank you very much for all your time used to provide us with these.
Subscribed.
Thank you for your sub, and yes, reviews like this take a LOT of time.
I recently used the Canon R5 for a high volume dance photo session and I can definitely tell you that the R5 is NOT a replacement for the 5D4. The shutter lag is awful it absolutely can't be used for fast-moving subjects regardless of the shutter mode.
Additionally, the battery life is extremely poor even with using the new Canon LPE6NH batteries. I used 6 batteries for an eight-hour shoot. And my 5D4 would normally use only two.
And I'm also very concerned about the overheating issue since the temperature warning indicator appeared after an hour of shooting photos (not video). The camera never shut down but it was very warm to the touch the entire time I used it. This camera might be a great location camera for wedding and portrait shooters, but it totally fails in a high volume studio situation.
I was hoping the R5 would replace the 5D4 but no such luck. Mirrorless technology still can't compete with a good old mechanical shutter. I'll be sticking with my 5D4 until a R5 Mark 2 or Mark 3 is released.
I'm also a little puzzled by all glowing "definitive" reviews that totally overlook the issues I've cited here. But to be fair most "reviewers" probably don't use a camera the way I do. I've used the 1D and 5D series for more than ten years and they have always been very solid and dependable, but the R5 just isn't suitable for high volume work. It's sort of like a high-performance sports car, very finicky and not suitable for everyday use.
I'm puzzled by your reference to shutter lag, as I just don't see that at all. I've personally found that I strongly prefer the EOS R5 to the 5DIV (which I've now sold) for my work, though I'll certainly grant that your shooting situation is uniquely different from mine.
You sound like Alexander Ivanoff’s close cousin. Hmm .. I wonder ...
As ever, I very comprehensive and honest review. Very helpful. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
What a great review; the colors in the video look outstanding, including the red on the chair hand rests and the foliage in background; Wow; I am also very pleased with my R5!!
Thanks for the feedback.
Thanks to RUclips suggestion, glad I found you and the best unbiased review, with clarity to the level that amateur/hobbyists as me can understand. Thank you and subscribed, looking forward to continue to see/hear from you.
Welcome aboard!
Thank you Dustin for this deep review! As always you are very serious and that is much appreciated!
Btw, have you seen SecrID?
You're welcome for the review, and no, I haven't seen that.
As great as the R5 is, the cost of CFexpress cards and the "L" lenses puts this camera way out reach for many people, including me. I would be more likely to buy an R6 and an adaptor with the dual SD cards. When will your review of the R6 be coming out?
My review of the R6 is probably a month away. I have other reviews I have to clear off before I can focus on that.
I got an R6 and I love it. I came from an A7RII and A7III. I was worried with only 20 mp, but it’s the sweet spot. Files load fast too.
Picture quality is amazing. Dynamic range is also excellent too. Focus speed and tracking is excellent.
If you don’t crop deeply and don’t need the extra MP, the R6 is a great buy! You also get 8k recording with R5.
It is exciting to even be able discuss using ISO 25600. This opens a new world. I have a 5D MKIII, and I would never go above ISO 1600, which has left me stuck a couple of times. I am excited about clean images at ISO 6400.
It's true that progress in ISO performance can really make a difference for event, wildlife, and sports photography.
The canon 5D mark 4 is still my dream camera.
Interesting. I find the EOS R5 to be a better camera by every metric I can think of.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I will get that R5 just waiting for overtime to come back. Covid slashed my salary pretty deep.
I’ve been so waiting for your definitive review!!! Tnx
You are so welcome!
I just realized Dustin I've enjoyed a ton of content from you over the years and never showed my appreciation. Thank you for your very thorough reviews and wish you continued success! Whenever your reviews come out I pay especial attention as I know it will be a fair shake and a detailed review. Ready to 'Marie Kondo' my Canon 5D MII (bless it and wish it well to the next owner) and have the Sony A1 on the radar. But I am curious what Canon comes out with next. In which case, I'll eagerly await that review from you. - Greg
Hi Greg, I like the Marie Kondo reference there. And yes, the Alpha 1 is "sparking joy" for me right now.
Excellent info. For being Definitive, I was looking for 1080p info. I just sold my R and waiting for my R5 to arrive.
Glad it was helpful!
Good to hear a real life review of this camera. I hope you will also do a review of the EOS R6 sometime soon. That one is a little more in my budget.
I'm hoping to get at that next month.
There is no higher mirrorless in the line up so no need to cripple it like they normally do
Perhaps, though I also feel like they really needed a hit to establish themselves in the mirrorless space.
Let me sit back for this epic Dustin review. Best on RUclips.
Wow, thanks!
Great review Dustin. Putting you on the spot do you prefer the Sony A7IV image or the R5, please?
The a7RIV has even more resolution, obviously, but the EOS R5 is much cleaner on the ISO range. For me the Canon's resolution is at a sweet spot, and I prefer its ergonomics and focus/tracking abilities.
Same here. I have a RIV and Switched to the r5 ❤️ nothing is bad on the Sony but for me More Things are usefully and ergonomic on the r5. And i like the focus square who is so smooth. I think the Display has a faster framerate against the RIV am i right dustin ?
Dustin thorough as always! And certainly worth the time. One thing not addressed (and by no means a criticism) is comparative image sharpness with the same lens. I am very curious how the R5 with an AA filter compares to the A7R3 which does not have one. A super sharp EF lens (like the Laowa 100mm Macro for example) mounted to both would be a very interesting test to see just how much detail is lost from the AA filter bs how much moire (beyond what is correctable) is removed and determining the cost/benefit if having the AA filter.
I do have something like that planned, as I'm personally interested as well.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I cant wait!! I am deciding between the A7R4 and the R5 and the noise/dynamic range performance was one major consideration. Largely due to Canon's lagging behind in those areas. And in no small part to the effects of their AA filter. Other considerations of course but these are the areas that I need someone independent and reliable to test.
Great review, as always, Dustin! The R5 is the best FF mirrorless body nowadays, if we don't count a more "niche" vendors, such as Leica when it comes to image quality (only). As you've mentioned Sony, their problem is not in the bodies, despite there is still plenty of things to improve, especially on the software side, but their main problem are the lenses and the very narrow mount, derived from the APS-C. The last has been their biggest engineering mistake.
Canon absolutely kills it with the RF range. To add to that, the Canon also pulls way more micro-contrast from the lens&body combination, despite the very high level of corrections against (virtually) everything in their RF range. The quality of the RF-L glass is up to 95% (if not more) of what Leica offers in their highest price segment with the newest lenses, but one will pay far less for the RF.
P.S. The only thing which leaves me with a bit of a bitter taste is the use of Lightroom in the review. Like we discussed before - with Capture One you will see much more things in the images :)
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Hi Alexander, as someone who has reviewed dozens of FE mount lenses, I have to disagree with your statement regarding the lens and the FE mount. The Sony 135mm F1.8 GM is the sharpest lens I've ever reviewed, bar none. The Sigma 35mm F1.2 DN (for Sony FE) is as sharp or sharper than any of the RF F1.2 lenses. I think the RF mount is great and I do think there is a lot of potential to it, but the tired internet meme that the FE mount is just an APS-C mount just doesn't hold up in the real world.
@@DustinAbbottTWI, let's just agree to disagree. The FE mount is derived from their APS-C and this is a fact, not a meme.
If I may stress on the fact, that your comment is simply not honest, which is surprising me. Maybe you have your (commercial) reasoning for that.
I've been actively shooting the A7R3 with their flagship primes for a year and I can tell you that they have nothing to do with the RF-L primes - the difference is *this* big.
Their ZP 50/1.4 is softer at f/2 than the RF50 wide open to 1.2. Their 85GM can't even touch the RF85/1.2. Do I need to mention they even don't have any truly great 35mm prime. The 135GM maybe a sharp lens (I also know it well), but it has the most ugly defocus character in any 135mm I have ever seen - swirly, similar to the old Russian cheap lenses. So, enough said on Sony lenses - 8 years and the Minolta know-how behind and still - a chaos. This is (lens lineup) where Canon really shines. Sigma doesn't even have to be present in this discussion.
As you will I am sure you will agree, the sharpness (read resolution, as sharpness is not measurable thing) is only one of the components that defines a "great lens", but not *the only* component. To me it is even the least important one. This is a long topic and I don't want to turn this into Sony vs Canon. We all know what works well and what's not...
P.S. If you really can't see a huge difference between the FE and RF-L primes, especially wide open, you must seriously consider switching to C1, which is the industry standard for high-end imaging not by accident, mate.
Cheers and keep up the great work!
GREAT VIDEO with the comparisons of the different noise levels and even the Sony camera. I bought the R6 at first and now have the R5 as well and think the R5 may actually have better performance even at low light.
That would be pretty amazing.
@@DustinAbbottTWI on paper the R6 should be 2x as good but the R5 has such fine noise grain because of the pixel count that the photo as a whole looks as good if not slightly cleaner.
How about rolling shutter?
I think the a9's are a bit better (built around an electronic shutter), but from what I can see it does quite well.
Technically, the r5 has a faster sensor readout than any other camera other than the a7siii.
Thanks Dustin! I love this review. After months of waiting and jobs that needed my attention, I purchased the R6 and am loving it. Still want to try the R5 soon. I had a question - Did you try your SAMYANG 85 RF on the R5?
Did you try Video with it? I want to know if you have issues with IBIS.
Yes, the two Samyang lenses for RF do have some compatibility glitches. There is one firmware update out already, but another is needed (according to Samyang) to fix the IBIS issue: www.samyanglens.com/en/support/support-download.php?page=1&type=3&sub_type=2&category=&product_seq=&lang=en&search_text=&manager_mount_win=&manager_lang_win=&manager_mount_mac=&manager_lang_mac=
For the dynamic range test,did you used on R5 Single shot mode,because the other modes gives slightly lower dynamic range and slightly more noise into the shadows.If pull down the R5's photo by the level of Sony,it will be exactly the same noise.Its always difficult to compare very similar sensor's dynamic range due the difference in the ISO standart !
I always do those type of test with a 2 second delay, which would be single shot.
Always an honest review and detailed as usual. Well done Dustin.
I appreciate that!
Another great review Dustin. And man I Must say the colors from your video sitting outdoors are why I dig canon cameras. Upgrading to this camera and holding out to grab the rf lenses for awhile. I have so many ef lenses. I did have great results with ef lenses on eos r.
Canon colors remain very nice!
fantastic review and i am looking forward to receive my R5 body
thanks a lot !!
Enjoy it
Hmm wondering if I should wait for the R5 S 100mp for landscape and the R7 for wildlife.
Unfortunately you are talking about cameras that are basically theoretical at this point, so I find it hard to make a recommendation based on that.
Thanks for the great review, however to be really definitive many of us would need to know how well the camera (and especially the AF subsystem) works with EF lenses. Hope to see this addressed in a future video !
My experience is that it is pretty much flawless. My EF lenses work better than they ever have.
I have been patiently anticipating your review of this camera. As usual, I was not disappointed. I am curious about how it compares to the eos r in terms of IQ only. Are the images noticeably better or do you have to be a pixel peeper to appreciate the difference?
I would say the images are better but not radically so. You obviously have 50% more pixels to work with, which is very useful, but your biggest advantage is more in the ways you can capture images (frame rate, focus, buffer depth, ergonomics, etc...)
A very thorough review and I was hoping you would do this camera as I've enjoyed your reviews in the past they've been valuable. I'm waiting for the UK prices to stabilise at the moment a bit too high £4200. I will probably end up with a grey market one after christmas. Thank you very much Dustin.
That's always a problem with new releases. It takes market forces putting pressure on them a bit before prices start to drift down.
The very best of camera reviews!!!Thank You...
Thank you very much!
What did you film this episode with? Looks like something from Hollywood with incredible bokeh and clarity.
I used the Canon EOS R5 and the Canon RF 70-200L
Hi Dustin, did you have Highlight Tone Priority enabled on the R5 when testing the highlights recovery against the Sony? What do you think about Highlight Tone Priority in general? Thank you for the extensive and professionally made reviews. Keep the good work up!
I didn't have it on (this was done at base ISO). I like highlight priority okay, though the DR is good enough on the R5 that I rarely enable it.
@@DustinAbbottTWI my last Canon camera was 5DSR and also with prior Canon cameras I noticed that when enabled Highlight Tone Priority introduces slight uniform noise to the overall image but I would always choose to have it enabled due to the flexibility it gives me for recovering the highlights. Can’t wait to test this on the R5 once a have my hands on it!
You'll note a significant improvement in dynamic range coming from the 5DsR. I still think the 5DsR can achieve slightly better sharpness in optimal conditions, but the R5 is so much more flexible.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I actually also shot with A7R3 in 2018-2019 and then with A7R4 in 2020 along with my 5DSR setup. While shooting Sony has certain benefits especially when it comes to customizability and dynamic range I never really liked the ergonomics of the body, the menu architecture and am certainly not a fan of waiting for the buffer to flush. One particular thing I noticed is how my shooting changed between Canon 5DsR and Sony - where I would usually expose to the right with Canon and have highlight tones priority enabled to be able to recover highlights to gain maximum dynamic range I would rather underexpose with Sony so I can preserve the highlights and then recover shadows at which Sony does much better.
Ultimately I decided to pull the trigger and traded all my Sony equipment and I am hoping I will get similar dynamic range with the Canon R5.
Once again thank you for the great content 📷
Thanks for the great review. I noticed the underexposure when I used lightroom but not when I used DPP. Apparently Adobe is aware of the situation and said that would fix it in the next update
I do think they'll clean that up. I'm hoping for a lot of new lens profiles, too, as it seems like Adobe has lagged on some new releases like the Sigma DN lenses released in 2020
@@DustinAbbottTWI looks like adobe just came out with Lightroom v10.0. It seems that it helped the underexposure, but I’ll need more time checking it out to see how much