Tommy Tallarico was literally the first American to work on America. Truly the most important person of all time. So glad to see he made this video on why people shouldn't take credit for things they don't own.
@Vicy5Modapk Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a cannon event that he worked hand in hand with Christopher Columbus and was the sound designer for the founding fathers
The "We'll pay you 20k" reminds me of some team fortress 2 lore. When MannCo hired Sniper they asked him how much it would cost for him to off a guy and he said "idk 20 I guess" meaning he'd be willing to do it for $20 to which they responded "ok 20,000 dollars seems reasonable".
I've seen this exact gag in an episode of iCarly. "sure, we'll do the shoe sponsorship" "how much do you want?" "100" "alright. write them a check for 100 thousand dollars."
@@15oClockto be entirely fair he didnt ruin her career, she ruined it herself by being an absolute scumbag before the plagiarism stuff came up. i encourage you to look it up because it is very fucked.
To be fair it's roughly the size of Oregon with the population density of Connecticut. If every internet person from Connecticut knew eachother I wouldn't bat an eye
As far as youtubers, who've been around for a decade, are reasonably prominent, and occasionally collab or attend industry events, go kind of. If you're newer, smaller or more antisocial you probably haven't networked very much, a bit like with LA youtubers or Streamers.
A good example of *almost* subconscious appropriation is a story about when Dan Povenmire, the creator of Phineas and Ferb, made a joke and his fellow writers wanted to use it in the show but he knew it was familiar and searched up the joke to find that it was a joke from Spongebob- which was an episode he worked on as well.
Considering self-plagiarism is an actual thing you can get in trouble for in journalism and arts, yes! If you produce content for one piece of media, you are legally or sometimes informally in an agreement not to reuse the content elsewhere.
Fr! I've heard of a few other married couples for whom Goncharov had special significance and I've started inviting dates over to watch it partially as a litmus test, partially for good luck. I'm so glad it blew up like this ♥
@@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSunMartin Scorsese was involved, how the fuck was it lost to time? Or is there a joke I'm not getting here, I'm legitimately very interested in Scorsese's work so a lost film he produced sounds really interesting to me.
In the span of 2 videos Hbomb has somehow deleted an entire Guiness World Record and sparked the largest plagiarism discussion the most recent years has seen
@@ridiaraspberry4095when he informed about information about a Guinness World Record held by Tommy Tallarico (don't know if I spelled that right, but the person the oof.mp3 video was about), he first got a response that Guiness didn't have the requested information because it was done through an "outside expert", and 2 weeks later the record had disappeared from their site and record of records.
Tommy Tallarico, the person that Hbomb discusses in ROBLOX_OOF.mp3, originally had a Guinness World Record of the "Most Prolific Video Game Composer." This world record had various complications around it, like how he always called the "person who worked on the most video games in their lifetime" and how the number of games apparently connected to this world record kept growing in spite of Tallarico being mostly retired on game work. So Hbomberguy's editor, Kat, asked Guinness themselves how the record was verified, and Guinness basically said "it wasn't. A consultant we approved of verified it for us." meaning that Guinness did not have a full list of video games that Tallarico worked on because it was never given to them directly. Later, Hbomberguy went back to find a screenshot of the record in question, and... it's no longer in the list. It's gone, it's completely vanished from the Guinness World Record website. And when people say he deleted an entire world record, this is what they're refering to- Kat asked Guinness information on the record, Guinness basically said they had no information, and then Guinness seemingly removed it from the website sometime between the email exchanges and Hbomberguy trying to find it again.
@@ridiaraspberry4095 it's in his "oof" video. tommy tallarico had a record that said he was the "most prolific composer of videogames" or something like that with 300+ videogames. hbomb's producer, Kat, asked for a list of games to confirm that they had the evidence, and Guiness just ******* deleted tommy's record!
I thought the same thing! It's not an insignificant amount of money, but 20k isn't even half of minimum wage in the EU. For, what I assume is, a permanent license to be used by a long standing entertainment institution in a country as developed as France, 20k is a steal. I don't blame Tom for taking it, I'm sure he felt incredibly guilt (although he shouldn't have), but with proper guidance he could've gotten WAAAY more, especially with the circumstance, cuz they were DESPERATE.
@jozina1 uh... for a wage to be half of 20k it'd have to be like 8 per hour. I don't know minimum wages in the Netherlands, but I'm willing to bet my cat's college fund not a single country in the EU has a minimum wage that low
as an autistic person i approve. i’ve seen trains, elevators (a kid built a functioning miniature elevator for my middle school science fair! it was awesome!), one kid who was into quantum theory (his name was caleb he was really cool), taylor swift, dogs, and in my case, politics
@@sylverscribs0490 As a train special interest autistic person, I also approve. Despite being an adult, I want to go to my state's children's museum to look at their massive model trains....
Holy crap, I was a freelance Chinese-English translator on Fiverr while I was getting my Masters degree in Xi'an, and I edited the English subtitles for Rise of Kingdoms ads! I'm so glad other people have joined me in this surrealist hellscape. I wish they had hired me to edit the scripts BEFORE shooting, but... alas....
New RUclips feature; if you plagiarize someone, Hbomber appears in your room and full nelson head locks you until youre unconscious and he deletes your channel
The record in question: Most RUclips videos ever made (…by a guy named Tom… on the Tomska channel… on a Wednesday… if you squint). His mother is very proud.
At this point Hbomb has a) spawned an entire new trend/subgenre of drama-entertainment b) potentially played no small part in saving creative industries from predatory behaviour by making plagiarism "THE conversation"
One problem when a serious issue becomes drama tho is people stop caring it goes from a simple discussion to “this person is bad cancel him” it becomes so washed that people forget what the original point was to begin with. Prime example react drama it’s happened 3 times and by the end it became semantics and people stopped caring
I once had a prof accuse me of plagiarism on an online exam because in the essay section, I mentioned vaguely similar points in almost the same order to another exam from 6 years earlier. She insisted I must have gotten a copy of this other person's answer. Not a single citation was the same, no phrases were the same, and I didn't even go to that school, this was a one-off course to finish my degree. She had 300+ people per class per semester, hadn't changed the exam in at least 15 years, she had made it very clear that she expected us to basically parrot back her lectures to her in the exam, and she gave us the essay questions ahead of time, so I had gone through her lectures and written an outline ahead of time based on what she said she wanted to read. At that point, it would be statistically impossible NOT to get similar essays through parallel thinking, I'd be shocked if I was the only one even that semester.
lower stakes, but having studied a STEM subject a uni with many friends studying similar subjects , we often had a mild paranoia when we happend on phrasing for a thing that can only be phrased clearly a few ways (e.g. 'the force increases with distance from the fulcrum' ) and we'd wind up with a 10-20% plagiarism rating on certain assignments- Lecturers let common sense prevail that it wasn't stolen, just phrased similarly, but it's not a surprise that formulaic education creates formulaic answers that often come out similarly phrased.
I'm not surprised by this. Heck, there's one point where I got "caught" plagiarizing in a programming course ... because the other two people who triggered it had been sitting next to me in the computer lab we worked on the assignments for this course during and had the same issue, so we all asked advice from the upperclassman running the lab and implemented the fix we were recommended. Makes it funnier given this was a programming course, and barring coding in a nearly dead programming language, it's nigh impossible to code something 100% different from what may have been submitted before, especially in a course of 100+ students
Can’t believe TomSka invented James Somerton and Tommy Tallarico for us to use as short hand for “person who plagiarizes” and “person who takes credit for the work of others and lies about their own accomplishments to seem cooler and more successful” respectively! I’d love to see an HBomberguy do a video about your amazing contributions to internet culture and content!
@@thesnesman5235 I tried to reply to you with a fake IP adress I made by mindlessly typing, but youtube seems to have filtered that out. Just imagine there's an IP adress here.
Can’t believe TomSka invented James Somerton and Tommy Tallarico for us to use as short hand for “person who plagiarizes” and “person who takes credit for the work of others and lies about their own accomplishments to seem cooler and more successful” respectively! I’d love to see an HBomberguy do a video about your amazing contributions to internet culture and content! Can’t believe I managed to make an original reply too!
The fact that saying crypto in the computer science building in university went from meaning cryptography class to cryptocurrency is the biggest hurt I feel from the most inconsequential thing that happened to me.
to be fair that's how mining cryptocurrency works, its computers having a puzzle solving race for a big shiny prize (pennies) (and its terrible for the environment)
Have you heard "What bro country sounds like to people who don't like bro country" from the channel "There I Ruined It"? Currently there are only the reuploads, because of copyright strikes by Universal Music Group.
my worst act of plagarism was when i forgot to do an assignment in high school, so my friend lent me theirs and said "just reword mine it's cool" and then i did and i got a higher grade than them and to this day i feel so dirty for doing it
I did the reverse by doing an assignment for both me and my friend in one of our IT classes, and letting him pass it off as his own. (In return for him doing the same for me for a different assignment.) My assignment was a typing game. His was a flappy bird clone. His assignment got a higher score than mine.
@@macskasbogre133I know this feel, it sucks even more especially when your assignment that they made for you (returning the favor) scored lower than theirs.
I made this thing one time it got lots of hate because people thought it was plaigerized so I took it down before I realized that I had made the "plaigerized" thing aswell and I remade the "plaigerized" one and people think I plaigiarizid the second thing and it's was very wierd situation (pls dont find it(and if you know it dont speak its name))
In elementary I "made" a series from "scratch" and my teacher really liked it so she would read it out to the class whenever i would make a new chapter and eventually compiled all the pieces of paper i wrote on a into a folder so she could show others how talented one of her students was. In actuality I would just go home and write down word for word a story that someone on flipnote hatena was making and pretend it was my own. I think the only original part I wrote was the ending but it sucked so the teacher asked me to go back and rewrite it and I just ended up copying the original ending too. 😭
When I was in elementary school we had a group where we’d share things we wrote and I would steal lyrics from songs I like and pretend I wrote them. I eventually got caught when my dumb ass thought I could get away with stealing All the Things She Said 💀
You know the story with the two people in the hospital. One is blind, the other can see and is by the window. Every day the window guy would describe what’s going on outside. Beautiful birds, kids playing, all that. Described it all to the blind man so he could get a little taste. The seeing man either died or got better, whatever a new guy too the seeing man’s bed. The blind man one day asks the new guy to describe what’s going on outside like his old friend did. This confuses the new guy. Ends with “I’m not sure what you’re talking about, all I can see is a brick wall.” Edit: oh yeah gotta actually conclude this. I ripped that story for creative writing. Basically half the class knew because I told them. My teacher was super impressed 😂
A good example of the subconscious appropriation is in "Everything, Everywhere, All at Once" the writers wrote a line they realized not long after was from "Story of a Girl" by Nine Days and in place of replacing it or calling out the allusion chose to just make it a running gag to the point basically every universe visited has a different version of that exact song playing somewhere
@@bambii-_ "your clothes never wear as well the next day and your hair never falls in quite the same way" it was while the alternate daughter was telling the mom about the alternate universes and why things suck.
"The Somerton appropriation scale." Take that phrase and add a bracketed number after it and you could probably get away with putting it in a academic paper.
You should make a skit about a dentist who turns out to have a dark past involving some sort of drug crime. That sounds like a fascinating and very original story.
For thirty seconds I was thinking about how Breaking Bad didn't have a dentist in it. Then things clicked and I laughed. Now I think that is a great inspiration for a book, movie, or skit. I hope I remember this when I see it on Netflix or RUclips or wherever.
As a massive Jonathan Coulton fan, I have to thank you for getting the word out about that Glee BLATANT plagiarism scandal. It went almost unnoticed at the time, and I hear people talking about how much they love the Glee version all the time, totally unaware it's a copy of Jonathan's. Sadly he never got his day in court, even though it's blatant cloning (i.e. the literal usage of his name!) But, my hope is that with this video, more people will be able to find out JoCo wrote that amazing interpretation, and if they like it, they should support him. If you love his stuff, go buy a T-shirt or CD or something, he's a really cool guy!
I heard about it off the social media of his buddy Brad Sucks when it happened, and am still mad about it. I already hated Glee with a passion as is back then lmao
For those reading that are unaware: Jonathan Coulton literally wrote the end songs for the Portal games. Most of you already love his work, you just don't know it. (Also my dad fuckin loves him. Code Monkey is a staple of family road trips)
This whole time, I had always assumed Glee was covering Coulton's song, and had legitimately gotten the rights to do so. (I didn't know who Coulton was, but I'd run into his video on RUclips.) I'm honestly surprised they didn't try to pay him off as soon as he called them. Did he not pursue it legally at all?
"I'm your moon" is legit one of the most underated songs out there. if I ever get the chance, i'm including it in something i make the second it's appropriate. with royalties, licensing, and proper credit, mind. i'm not glee >:/
Tom never feel guilty for your work being paid for by corporations because they would have paid you 300 quid if they didnt offer you 20k. Most companies would offer exposure, get that bag and run to the bank.
Yeah, I was horrified when he said "300 euros". It's a big production by a big company in a big country with a big audience, they have to pay accordingly. Also aside from your own worth, there's always the risk that if you let them get off the hook practically for free, they'll be encouraged to "take inspiration" from other small creators and lowballing them and their own writers because "hey, we don't NEED to pay that much." Glad they made the first offer!
@@Nanoqtran Exactly! If something like that happens between an artist and a big company you haggle like an old jewish grandma at the Shuk! Milk that cow because god knows you can use the cash.
my favorite accidental plagiarism was when, just a few years ago, i came up with a story about a bunch of weird guys with superpowers who entered people's brains to defeat their traumas and resolve their problems a few months later i discovered psychonauts was a thing
Tbh that sounds more like parallel thinking than plagiarism. After all, you'd never heard of the prominent work that also used the concept at the time, you came up with it independently.
at this point, there is no way for any human to come up with any story idea that doesn't have something in common with another story that was told before. it's kinda how people keep reinventing homestuck, but homestuck itself was reinventing a polish folk tale and a bunch of other things.
@@beloveduser sorry, what do you mean homestuck was reinventing a polish folk tale is there a polish folk tale where kids team up with bisexual aliens and their alternate reality gay parents to fight a chess dog and a sexist green skeleton who uses deviantart
Oh god I was worried when you mentioned Jonathan Coulton. I'm glad he didn't plagiarize anything, but damn the balls of the Glee producers to say they didn't steal his composition when his fucking name is in the song is wild
I remember when I was a kid I used to trace bases or "how to draw" books for art. And I remember being ROASTED on every website for "Stealing art". And then I went into art in college and soooo many assignments were "here is a work, here is a light box, you're going to have to trace this" and the cognitive whiplash of "Tracing is the WORST SIN YOU COULD EVER HAVE AS AN ARTIST EVEN IF YOU MAKE 0 MONEY OFF OF DOING SO, EVEN JUST TO PRACTICE/EXPERIMENT" to "Yeah like 80% of what you're going to ever do as an artist in a money making role is tracing, and tracing is literally one of the most important and necessary tools for all artists, so get good at it so it looks original and not like a jittery mess" was ... bigger than I expected.
Art circles on the internet dont have anything to do with actual art schools. Every single advice they give you is a lie and just something they made up. Im glad i went to art school and never was a part of any internet art clique, its the most toxic pit ive ever. Tracing is a GREAT tool. I always recommend people to trace 3d models and especially hands as addition to learning how they work; thing is, these advices and the "a hand is bunch of tubes! :)" breakdowns NEVER account for the fact that such simplistic boiling down to basic geometry doesnt leave a room to the fact that human body, is, well, plastic and dynamic, secondly, it occupies 3d space which you cant easily teach, thirdly, your BRAIN has to be trained and WILL lie to you. All of this is easily overcome by simply tracing from photos or 3d models, as your brain will learn from your own hands and it is so much easier. Of course you also need the breakdowns, all im saying is youll get much better results by including tracing into your training. And the art circles on the internet WANT you to suffer and be beaten down and put in a ton of hard work for no reason at all. Measuring artist's integrity by how much they suffer is an incredibly toxic mindset and it takes a lot of time to unlearn such unhealthy ideas. Art schools (well the good ones) want you to work smart, not hard. Theres already a lot of hard work in being an artist, you dont need to try and prove anything.
Some people have a very screwed understanding of what plagiarism is. Sometimes there is a right way and there is a wrong way, and doing it the wrong way because someone did it before is just... South Park literally had an episode dedicated to this issue.
A benefit of this whole plagiarism drama is that people are becoming more aware about how hard it is to be creative, and why creative skills are worth paying for. Cause not everyone has them.
@@rembrandx i think people are WAY to afraid of AI for art in any form. Cause it is noticeable if it was made by AI. IT baicly just maeks GOOD creative work more valuable.
Not everyone _has_ them but very few people can't _get_ them. Just like any other skill, it's not inate, it has to be developed, trained up and maintained. And if you allow me to be topical and date my comment, typing "anime girl big big big bazonkas massive glossy lips in style of ArtistWhoIsGood" in a prompter is no replacement for learning the craft.
@@AbigatorM I'm reminded of a quote from someone, probably me, right now: if you're not afraid, you haven't been paying attention. The data was stolen ("collected") long before most artists knew to raise a fuss, and now it's so pervasive it's literally being integrated into MS Paint. Any wrinkles you may have been able to spot are being ironed out daily and the only way you'd know the difference is if the person/entity in question felt some ethical obligation to admit it. Let me put it this way: corporations, particularly the shameless "non-creative" ones, aren't going to look at a slow, expensive human artist, and a fast, cheap AI service and say, "Yeah, let's go with the one that costs more and might produce something we don't like." Not if they don't have to.
@@AbigatorM I wish that were so, but the capabilities of recent Midjourney and the likes has improved massively in a short time. For commercial companies, 'good enough with little effort' is better than 'fantastic and paying people for it'. We're already seeing AI being brought into commercial projects (eg. advertising, movie intro's, …). In my industry, it's actively used in (sales) presentations and looking at my LinkedIn stream, a lot of people are aching to implement it in the concepts & design phases. They don't care about great creative art, mediocre or slightly good is fine for them.
I remember as a kid, I think I was 11 or 12, writing a short story about werewolves where I "came up" with the idea of calling the werewolves "lycans." I was actually super proud at the time for coming up with that, as if shortening the word "lycanthrope" was some stroke of genius. While trying to come up with ideas to take the story, though, I discovered that a movie I hadn't seen before, Underworld, was already using the word "lycan" to refer to their werewolves. I remember being legitimately angry finding that out. Like, *I* came up with that, it's not fair that someone else came up with the same idea completely independently. I think that was probably my first conscious experience with parallel thinking, and apparently the concept was too much for my dumb kid brain to handle. Funnily enough, the actual story I wrote was probably just a straight rip off of the Cirque du Freak series with a bit of Darren Shan's other books sprinkled in as well. Definitely something I look back on and laugh about.
Lycanthropy both as word and a concept (tho it can be argued that most civilizations have some sort of man-wolf mythos) comes from King Lycaon' name, who was cursed by Zeus into a werewolf, neither of you came up with it, sorry
As someone who has been saying for years that the potatoe in "Die Potatoe!" should have been a tomatoe, because potatoes aren't that squishy, I feel incredibly validated. (My mother is very proud)
Tom going crazy over 20k to build his studio is the most relatable thing I have ever seen. There are youtubers out here who wipe their ass with more who think they are relatable when talking about money.
tom almost asking for just 300 bucks is so funny to me... how did he still not know what he was worth. how much money THEY made off of that sketch,, bless him
It's certainly a conversation to be had with digital media creators! If you've only ever worked on commission, your instinct will be to just add up the cost of your time, materials and labor to arrive at the total you should be paid for that work. But if your work is going to create revenue for the buyer (or already has,) that math all goes straight out the window and you have to calculate based on an entirely different scale.
300 insane! It's thinking in the scope of people money, instead of corporation money. For a random person, 300 euro is a pretty penny. To a corporation that's absolutely nothing.
Even 20,000, idk. I feel like if he surmised that €300 and multiplied it by 4 (it was meant to run four times a week), assuming it ran for 40 weeks...That's...that's where i would've started
Fun fact: this video almost killed me. I was watching it alone while eating dinner and the joke about trains and autism caused me to choke on my food. I spit it back up, but if that had gone just a little differently that was it for me. Great video though.
Unironically that interview with James about the mobile game adds is actually really cool And i guess congrats to victor on his redemption arc i hope his dental practice good
In East Asia knowing "American style dentistry" is like *the way to go,* as it were. Granted who knows where he learned, I wish I could have been booted out of America for good when I got my felony drug charge lol
Having the Surfshark ad be a mockery of the ads made by the company that appropriated your own work; and right after you talked about them no less, was a very creative decision
The American version was actually named after something the Creator's wife said after their son was... Being a menace. Also, yes, his son was named Dennis. (Also, from what I've read, he isn't the best dad.) "Your son is a menace!"
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic Ps. original comment by me pls don't steal
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic
Okay, I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was put together so genuinely well that I think it adds fantastically to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic. -Based on the comment of DinnyOrSomething
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your Rise of Kingdoms video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic Ps. original comment by me pls don't steal
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic Ps. original comment by me pls don't steal
Tommy Tallarico had a major role in the creation of this video and it really tells. This amount of dedication shows why he was chosen to be the first American to work on sonic.
@giggabiite4417 he's the first American to kiss sonic on his cheek! He personally held hands with Miyamoto while making Metroid Prime! He made the entirety of Roblox! And he has 100 world records!
@@giggabiite4417 Subject of an earlier HBomberguy video about the origin of the "oof" sound from Roblox. Long story short, he's made a lot of false and misleading claims about his contributions to games, including taking credit for his subordinates' work. Being the first American to work on Sonic was one of those claims.
French Meanwhile's director trying to reach out to you through facebook is such an obvious tell as to what French TV people thought of internet creators (and other mediums) at the time
The video of He-man singing "HEEYAEYAEYAAEYEA" that you've probably seen is a plagiarized version. The video, titled "Fabulous Secret Powers", was made by SlackCircus and posted on the Something Awful forum in 2005, and then on the SlackCircus youtube channel in 2007, where it currently has only 6 million views. Meanwhile, in 2010, youtube user ProtoOfSnagem edited out the beginning and end of the song, called it HEEYAEYAEYAAEYEA, posted it on their own account, and then, apparently, vanished. The bootleg version currently has 218 million views and is the only version most people are aware of.
Is it me or did Hbombs latest video create this sort of collective plagiarism anxiety attack among creatives? Regardless, it's good to see so many, guilty or not, reflect on the issue like this.
Thing is we've known for a long time that plagiarism is rampant, given RUclips is a space that elevates people with little to no accountability relative to other media. Hbomb's video just opened up the floodgates and made a lot of people aware of what it can sometimes look like when people plagiarize on this platform.
I would say this is the first I've seen a creator evaluate and point out their own plagiarism rather than harp on someone else. Honestly, I clicked because TomSka, but stayed for just how interesting this analysis turned out to be. I'm glad Hbomb got a cameo too!
Among creators it was another wave of self doubt/realization, because we usually feel like a hack on some level. While for the general public, showing that prominent people, yes even the big ones you may like, was a revelation. It's just not something most people were thinking about, or was a "yeah those people are dicks, but MY person who I like would never!" I sometimes find doing my research on people to be fun and fascinating, but that's not the case for most people.
I've recently watched two videos of a RUclipsr, the first video was uploaded before his video. No sources in the description. The second one was uploaded after. Sources all neatly cited. As someone who wants to study history, I never fucking understood how anyone does not want to cite their sources.
Me, personally, I intended to make a shit ton of RUclips videos since 2017, but I was too too focused on copyright and plagiarism. Now I’m just stuck on everything on that but also privacy, perfectionism, and a healthy routine
Omg he literally showed HBG and I didn't even notice until your comment. Either I'm an idiot who wasn't paying attention to Tomska or I'm an idiot for missing HBG.
Same Jonathan, same. As TomSka fan from childhood (now I don't watch much but still love his old sketches/animations). And currently huge fan of Harry's "Harris' " (Hbomberguy) since I stopped taking red/black pills and went to left pill (I recommend it highly, it's the best pill!) since 2016/7 (I was 15/16 lol. 90% of people who believe and wants other to believe too in red/black pill are just virgin teenagers, please find a girl guys). I'm really disappointed that I watched that like 10 times but i recognized Harry just now, by that part of a sketch. Not only I didn't recognize Harry's voice BUT I DIDN'T IDENTIFY HIM BY LOOK, I THOUGHT IT'S A RANDOM BLOKE ACTOR for four damn years. I'm disappointed in myself
I hadn't seen the sketch, but when it appeared in the video I immediately noticed, and I know that Tom and Harry are friends offline, because I've seen them reply to each and appear in videos together
In one of my college literature courses, the professor explained that originality does not mean “to be unique” because that is an impossible feat. Rather, the intended use of the word “original” was something more akin to “from origin.” In other words, for a work to be “original” it had to be derived from a preexisting work or thought (the “origin”), but adapted/reworked from a different angle. Originality is the creation of something new via repurposing something old. Originality is to be inspired by something without directly copying it. There needs to be something additive or transformative. Originality always has an origin; it’s never created via nothing. Nothing only produces more nothingness. Uniqueness is the myth that kills originality.
@@KainYusanagi Technically, yes, but many people tend to think of uniqueness as being “entirely different and without similarities” or “that which is other and wholly new.” When you define originality by those unobtainable standards of uniqueness, the creative process is quashed before it can even begin, often resulting in despair and self-doubt. In other words, it’s a potential thought killer.
@@MiraBoo I would disagree there that *many* people tend to think of uniqueness as solely being "entirely different without ANY similarities", or "being other and wholly new"; One example would be Salt & Sanctuary, which obviously borrows much from the Soulsborne series to the point that it is actively acknowledged by both communities, yet it is still seen as a completely unique experience, because of the adaptation to a different style and function that it has done. You see this with many games that are derivative of others, *so long as they are sufficiently transformative*; otherwise, they are simply labelled as derivative, such as Lords of the Fallen (the first one, not the recent one that is a reboot and confusingly has the same name; that one actually did a pretty good job of it).
@@KainYusanagi As I said before, you’re technically correct. Plenty of people, especially creatives, inherently understand that the saying “nothing is original” should be amended to “everything is original-unless deliberately stolen.” If I recall correctly, Copyright (which protects IP) was intended to expire sooner than it does because it was understood that the Public Domain was necessary for creativity to flourish. We need to have free access to the works and ideas of others in order to make anything “original.” IPs shouldn’t be gate-kept indefinitely and for numerous generations. To be original is to be partially derivative via nature.
This seems like the perfect chance to finally confess this sin: When I was in 3rd grade, we had to do creative writing. And my teacher was very impressed with how many pages I was able to produce. But what she didn't know, is that I was just writing, word for word, the script of the Magic School Bus episode "Gets Lost in Space" (The one where Arnold takes off his helmet on Pluto and basically dies). I don't think I ever got passed Mars before that assignment ended, but I still spent several days in class writing the script, from memory, and passing it off as my own work. Sure I was 8 or 9 years old, I probably wasn't trying to steal, and my dumb little self probably just thought "tell a story" and didn't know the meaning of the word "original. But 25 years later, I still remember it. Straight up Cloning on the Somerton Scale.
In this case, that teacher should have been able to tell, isn't the space episode one of the most well known episodes of the magic school bus And magic school bus is also i think the second most played in schools show
It's even more astounding that this is probably the lowest they thought he would accept. Tom could have probably negotiated up to at least double. Life changing indeed.
Jokes aside, I think your Somerton Scale is actually a very useful way to think about this whole issue and assess works of creativity. Appreciate your honesty in exploring this.
26:55 This is so funnily similar to that one iCarly episode, I don't remember exactly what it was, but Carly and her friends were going to make an offer to a company that wanted rights to something, I think intellectual property to do a show. Carly's squad did a quick pow-wow and decided that they will only ask for 300 dollars, because they didn't want to sound too needy and it was for something they thought was pretty insignificant. The board members come back, Carly says "we'll do it for 300" and the head board guy says "You've got a deal; 300,000 dollars"
smh another time Tomska shamelessly stole someone else's creative work, I can't believe he orchestrated that whole sequence of events just to have a funny story to tell.
@@gray007nliCarly doesn't have a creator, and you can't prove me wrong. No, I didn't steal that line from Quinton Hoover, also known as Quinton Reviews.
Scariest moment of uni for me was having one of my essays combed through for plagiarism after a really unfortunate case of parallel thinking. We had to do a close reading of a poem for a first-year lit class, standard 101 stuff. Apparently half my class just googled the poem, and reworded the observations from one of those cheatsheet/cliff notes type sites. Independently of these people, I had read the glossary of poetry terms in our class textbook, and noted that one of the concepts in there (not covered in class) applied to the poem we were analyzing, and I cited the textbook and talked about the implications. This was apparently the exact same observation made by everyone else, thanks to the "first result of a google search" style of analysis. That one citation proving my train of thought literally saved my life, since combined with it being a simple poem with not a lot of room for radical interpretations, it gave me enough deniability to not be worth a formal investigation. The only thing I was guilty of was being boring with my analysis but it still scared me into being very meticulous about citations and not plagiarizing. Can't imagine how the James Somertons of the world risk putting themselves through that kind of scrutiny on purpose
I remember when a couple friends of mine at uni had a similar experience. It was a different subject (a report on the current and potential applications of a particular concept in physics), but they just so happened to 1) both come up with the same potential future application that noone else had, 2) word it in almost exactly the same way, and 3) randomly go to different friends within our group for proofreading. If they had asked the same friend (or each other) to proofread, as they often did, it would have been noticed. If they'd worded things more differently, it wouldn't have been an issue. If they weren't both excellent at Physics and therefore able to come up with more obscure/creative ideas, it wouldn't have happened in the first place. In this case, the university (thankfully) realised that it really was just a coincidence/parallel thinking, and that there weren't actually a huge number of ways to properly word the application's definition in the first place, but it was a scary time for all of us. Mostly them, of course, but our whole friends group was shaken by it. Obviously it therefore quickly became a running joke, but man. Can't imagine doing that on purpose and not immediately shitting myself with fear of being caught.
I actually have a really good example of parallel thinking from my personal life: A couple years ago, just before COVID, me and two of my good friends came up with a bit where we would start gaslighting people into thinking we had a 4th best friend named Eric. We would make up crazy stories that included him, or insert him into real stories people knew happened to us. Very quickly people fell into two groups, people who understood it was a bit and played along and people who thought Eric was a real person. After a while Eric became almost deified; when something would go wrong someone would always say “Where’s Eric when you need him” or when something crazy would happen people would remark “Reminds me of my buddy Eric”. Flash forward to today, and I see people online using the exact same joke, exact same name, exact same spelling. At first I thought our joke must have taken on a life of its own. I thought about it for a while and I realized it’s almost impossible for that to be true - it was an inside joke, we never posted anything online about it except for group chats and whatnot. Still one of the craziest coincidences I’ve ever seen.
RUclips channel Alpharad Gold did something similar a few years ago with their editor "tyler" who didnt actually exist, but the editor would obviously play along "Tyler" the editor was actually one of their friends so maybe its more accurate to call it a pseudonym or somethinf but idk same vibes
18:54 I love how basically every RUclipsr that was around since 2010- absolutely adores Bo, because of the RUclips live performance and because of how far he’s gone after starting really young on, what was at the time, a really small website
The problem of hearing a melody and forgetting whether you heard it before happens to me so often while songwriting that I end up doing the opposite and convincing myself that a song I wrote is not original the second time I come back to play it, because it sounds familiar (from when I wrote it) and my brain refuses to accept that I hadn’t heard it before writing it.
no because this is so real 😭😭 I caught myself actually accidentally copying a song ONCE and now every time I hear anything I write I'm like "this sounds familiar........from myself"
Music copyright and crediting in general is so fucked. There's a decent video on this from Adam Neely about how "music citation" would be a lot more healthy than how IP is currently enforced (shitty lawsuits and decisions and all)
God same, every song I write I'm convinced already exists. I play it to my friends and say 'WHAT SONG IS THIS!' and hound them, but only once did someone come back and say 'no this one sounds like this Taylor swift song'. Funnily enough I'd never heard the song, but I binned it anyway
That point about the French TV show ripping you off then trying to pay you was wild to me. Both because they even admitted any fault at all and tried to rectify it, and also that the amount of 20k is insanely low for any TV show that actually matters. You shoulda got around 400-600k for that.
I initially thought it was 20k per episode, not just a one-time payment. Tom probably should have gotten in touch with a lawyer ASAP to get a constant payroll instead of, what appears to be, hush money.
Not every TV show business is in the "millions of dollars" bracket, especially with how modern media has been driven away from traditional TV shows. Throwing something like 20-30x higher price sounds like gross overestimation to me, and once you start talking about numbers like that.. That's where the lawyers start to hit their pay-rolls which is a fight that individual content creator can't win against entire TV companies. Could Tom get more from his idea? Yeah probably.. Should he get greedy over it and potentially end up in legal battle? Absolutely not. 20k is a huge payment for individual person over a relatively short term idea of only 3 short episodes. I appreciate what you guys are trying to say, but please don't over value stuff or you might end up with nothing at all. Your numbers sound more like gambling addiction than actual rational thinking. Greed is a massive issue in modern times for both corporations and individuals, so please try to avoid falling for it.
@@DelPlays They made over 100 episodes. The 20k was payment to license the idea for years of content, not just the three. I have zero idea about the proper payment and contracts for these things but 20k seems way on the low end for something that they keep producing and making money off of. EDIT: I wasn't suggesting a lawyer for some made-up legal battle you imagined. That's just what you do for deals and contracts like that. The lawyer knows how to interpret legal jargon and has a better idea of how these deals usually work. Being called up out of the blue and then immediately being offered 20k is suspicious as fuck.
@@obbinss Oh good I wasn't the only one. I get second hand embarrassment really easily and badly and my skeleton wanted to jump out of my skin at that part
@@CurlyJones god i feel you completely as that's exactly how i felt. i physically recoiled at him just describing the situation i think my skeleton would've just broken free from my skin like a butterfly exciting a cocoon if i had actually watched the clip from the event. i just couldn't do it.
I'd actually like to thank you Tom, for being committed enough to an honest conversation about this topic to delve deeply into your own work. I'm sure it was deeply uncomfortable at times to mention your own work and behaviour in this kind of conversation, but it's totally necessary and adds insane value to the conversation that I think most other people shy away from. You didn't run from those feelings you ran to them, lifted them up and said "hey look everybody, the thing you want to talk about!"
Funfact most of the non inspiration stuff (like pinn down beeing copied) he already talked about (in much less detailed) 2 years ago in "funfacts and fuck ups" Where he went through almost all of his videos and we'll told facts or story's like that
What we learned from Tom's almost accepting 300 for something that he got 20k for: always ask how much theyre willing to pay or let them make the first offer.
The part where the dude on the phone offers you ridiculous money had me laughing harder than I have in a long time. That must have been such a surreal moment. I'm so glad you got that kind of opportunity!
@@derAtzeThe thing is it kinda falls in line with unconscious plagiarism. It came from the same person, and that same person would probably write the same thing anyway. It just feels unnecessary. And no, the reason wasn't about honesty. It's because academic papers are usually published through some esoteric publishing companies that really upcharges your papers. Like it's really bad. They made the idea of self plagiarism so the writer couldn't write the similiarly good papers to other companies or to the public. The knowledge stays gatekept to that publisher so if you want to continue that research, you have to publish with them again.
@@derAtze I got charged because two sentences were the same. I had previously done a shorter essay on the same topic in my 2nd year which I had been told wouldn't be an issue.
I think the most fascinating part about this piece is finding out what happens when you ask about things like inspiration in good faith, rather than outright accusing people.
My worst plagiarism I ever did was in high school english, the teacher wanted us to write a piece about plagiarism or something like it (wasnt an exam or anything, just homework), so I found a very convincing essay already written about it and submitted it, it was very obvious, I wasnt trying to hide it... The teacher enjoyed the irony and just made me write my own instead of going down the usual path for plagiarism. :P
I copy+pasted an article in 6th grade to get disqualified from presenting my work. I'd asked my teacher if I could just take a 0 for the presentation part of the grade (public speaking in middle school had me heaving in the hall) and she said it was mandatory. So I just took a 0 for the whole thing
@@emackenzie The amount of times teachers would say you get a 0 for not doing it and then refuse to let me turn in a blank piece of paper. So the only reason I can't just take a 0 is because I told you I'm not doing it instead of just not doing it? Really taught me great communication skills /s
I don't use twitter, but your old skit about self-aware characters in a student film inspired a short play I wrote about self-aware characters in a student play! It's been performed at a few local festivals and I always get compliments on the concept and fast-paced humor.
the most plagairism I've done is liking a story, deciding to change every character's names and most of their personalities, change the story entirely, and never even finish my "reimagining."
Hbomberguy makes fantastic videos, when he's not talking about video games. He has rather absolutist and self gratifying viewpoints for them, basically telling that he's right and you're wrong if you like a game that he doesn't like. And I'm not saying that he's wrong about the things he says when it comes to video games, in fact he makes plenty of really good points for them, it's only when he has decided that he doesn't like something about a game that he is unable to see that someone else might actually like that very same aspect of the game for very different reasons than how he sees them. His videos on modern day problems are some of my favorite videos on youtube, but he is also very strongly opinionated person who probably would have hard time finding a middle ground in an argument if it goes against his own views. But he does certainly make some of the most entertaining content on this platform and puts a ton of effort behind it.
James (not Somerton) made me laugh. Dude seems nice with a decent sense of humour. Suddenly being dumped in the middle of a porno like that must've been crazy.
I'm an author and I found out that there's a country with lax copyright laws where a publisher just straight up stole all my books and sell them without permission. They have a website with my face on and everything! I get messages from kids saying how my books are bestsellers there and I'm just like 😅😃😭
@@AbandonedVoid She's being credited, but... she's not being paid. She's not seeing any of the revenue she rightfully should receive. Getting credit isn't enough in a case like publishing works.
While reading "Robin", the biography of Robin Williams by David Itzkoff, there's a chapter where Itzkoff talks about the time in Williams's career when he started to rise to fame for his stand up comedy. In that chapter, Itzkoff describes that for a while other comedians would accuse Williams for stealing their jokes and Williams would pay them attributes while apologizing relentlessly. It has gone so bad that some comedians would literally try to shake up Williams and his friends had to talk to him to stand up for himself. It's a wild chapter that I feel fits the subject in this video with plenty of similar fears and struggles you mentioned and talked about. Also, that Israeli agency 100% played you. Israel's mainstream copywriting agencies are (for the most part) notoriously lazy and are known for ripping off artists that they think are obscure enough for the general public. Sincerely, someone who's very tired of living in this country.
I had a really unfortunate case of parallel thinking during my bachelor thesis. It was literally the last day before the deadline that i discovered my topic had been talked about by someone else previously, with the same conclusion and i had to awkwardly work that in somehow because it was obviously too late to change anything major.
I love how you’re still not actually saying the “Juice that makes your head explode” out loud and just insert the sound bite for it XD, it’s the skit that keeps on giving
30:09 is so damn brutal Tom, lol. Holy shit. I'm so glad I follow you as someone with enough integrity to A) own their mistakes and B) post their cringe moments. Goddamn.
Cryptomnesia is a very real thing and such a bitch as someone that writes music. A few months ago, I was going through major writer's block for the album I was working on. Then I was struck with what I thought was a really cool, original riff. I immediately started writing a song around it, and even got as far as soloing over it before I realized that I had subconsciously ripped off Blood and Thunder by Mastodon. I was devastated and I had to scrap pretty much the whole song lol.
I had this when I used to write songs as a teenager. I'd accidentally lift riffs or have similar sung bars without even knowing it really. Thankfully I never released any of them but still it does make me paranoid that I've done it in other places.
Thing is, wether it is intentional or not, it is still copying. So imo, it doesn't matter. If you saw something you liked and incorporated it into your work, then that's just spreading positive things. If everyone was that worried about plagiarism, culture itself would stop existing.
The manufactured controversy regarding the UK Dominos ad sounds, to me, like one person said it was racist purely as a joke, another person saw it and thought they were being serious and commented somewhere else that they thought it was racist too, a third person saw this and intuited that the consensus was that these ads were racist and some news outlet took it as a concentrated group of people were making unfair criticisms about Dominos because it made for an interesting story. As I'm to understand it, this is how tabloid news has always worked.
I like how Hbomb’s video practically revolutionised the entire internet way of dealing with plagiarism. (Alright, alright maybe revolution is not the word but come on you know what i meant!)
Ehh… I don’t think it revolutionized anything. Back in 2015, Matthew Santoro was caught plagiarizing in a ton of his top 10/50 videos. He got millions of subs before getting caught. This recent situation was much the same, just different genres. We’ll see such plagiarism happen again, but let’s hope they get caught before they hit millions.
@@thomasparsons9866 I remember that! Although, this time around it does feel much bigger than it did back then. Maybe it's just because more of the channels I watch now are talking about it than back then
It sounds couterintuitive, but never forget to multiply the amount for "one episode" with the number of episodes they intend to do ! All those episodes they do themselves with their team and your idea are as much episodes that they don't contract you to do, after all. 300€ * 100 episodes = 30000€, which is closer to what they offered than to what you wanted. You actually did them a solid by accepting so little money! :D
TomSka having to live with making THAT joke in his introduction to THAT particular sketch infront of THOSE people... the bravery in this man to keep waking up every morning. He deserves 100 X more than what he got from Canal+, I say.
Worst plagiarism I ever did was a few years ago. I was schmoozing with the boss over at my place, and I was pulling out all the stops trying to put on a really impressive spread. Must have spent like $100+ on a pork roast and all the trimmings. I was in the kitchen for ages prepping everything but managed to get the roast in the oven in what I thought was plenty of time. Anyways just my luck my boss shows up early! Really puts me off kilter, he makes some snarky remark about my place being hard to find, like buddy google is your friend, anyways - when I got back into the kitchen you guessed it, I'd totally messed up, there was smoke coming out of the oven and the roast was burnt to a crisp. I was fully panicking when an idea hit me: I make up some excuse to stall him in the sitting room and climb out through the window to go to the burger joint across the street. I pick up a half dozen hamburgers and lay them out on a platter all fancy like it's something I've made. Tell him it's an old family hamburger recipe. Dumbass didn't suspect a thing! But I still feel bad about it to this day, someone at the burger company worked really hard on that recipe and I just took it and pretended it was mine. I'd like to think I'm mature enough now that I wouldn't do something that disrespectful again, but I should still probably call that burger place to apologise really, they don't deserve that kind of shabby treatment.
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I'd like to thank Tommy Tallarico for this video.
His mother must be very proud
His mother is very proud
I'm stealing this comment now
I'm stealing this comment now
I wouldn't like to thank him
"Good artists copy, great artists steal"
Look at this quote I just made
No, my quote!
Bullcrap, I invented the quote. In fact, I invented quotes in general
@@dimsthedimwit600 I invented words
I actually invented words@@dimsthedimwit600
I invited everything
Can't believe Tommy Tallarico invented plagiarism, truly the first american
Tommy Tallarico was literally the first American to work on America. Truly the most important person of all time. So glad to see he made this video on why people shouldn't take credit for things they don't own.
@Vicy5Modapk Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a cannon event that he worked hand in hand with Christopher Columbus and was the sound designer for the founding fathers
@@Vicy5Modapk George Washington was very proud
@@gurzeh8787 I remember the moment the founding fathers showed up at video games live. It was truly the most important moment in American history.
He worked together with Shigeru Miyamoto to create America
The "We'll pay you 20k" reminds me of some team fortress 2 lore.
When MannCo hired Sniper they asked him how much it would cost for him to off a guy and he said "idk 20 I guess" meaning he'd be willing to do it for $20 to which they responded "ok 20,000 dollars seems reasonable".
Remind me of a vine
"Yea, I'd kill him"
"For how much"
"50"
"50 Grand?"
*spittake*
I've seen this exact gag in an episode of iCarly.
"sure, we'll do the shoe sponsorship"
"how much do you want?"
"100"
"alright. write them a check for 100 thousand dollars."
@@billionai4871 dang, iCarly brought some flashback to my childhood
Isn’t this a tumblr post?
@@scoutagain9749 no its tf2 lore
Hbomberguy is now powerful enough to break the 4th wall and reach through computer screens. He is too powerful, and yet, not yet powerful enough.
Using 1% of his power, he destroyed Illuminaughtii's career.
This is fantastic. Now when I say 'Choke me daddy' while watching one of his vids my fantasy can finally come through 🤤
He's not even doing it in his video. How much more power will he have.
@@15oClockto be entirely fair he didnt ruin her career, she ruined it herself by being an absolute scumbag before the plagiarism stuff came up. i encourage you to look it up because it is very fucked.
@@nickdotjpg yeah, but from what I understood she was still hanging on by a thread? and hbombs vid just- well yknow
What I've learned here is that every British person knows each other
To be fair it's roughly the size of Oregon with the population density of Connecticut. If every internet person from Connecticut knew eachother I wouldn't bat an eye
We get together and drink tea and chortle on a weekly basis
common misconception actually! prior to the queens death her psionic powers connected all brits to a single hivemind. theyre finally free.
It’s true I’ve met them all just casually walking around
As far as youtubers, who've been around for a decade, are reasonably prominent, and occasionally collab or attend industry events, go kind of. If you're newer, smaller or more antisocial you probably haven't networked very much, a bit like with LA youtubers or Streamers.
A good example of *almost* subconscious appropriation is a story about when Dan Povenmire, the creator of Phineas and Ferb, made a joke and his fellow writers wanted to use it in the show but he knew it was familiar and searched up the joke to find that it was a joke from Spongebob- which was an episode he worked on as well.
Can you subconsciously appropriate from yourself?
Considering self-plagiarism is an actual thing you can get in trouble for in journalism and arts, yes! If you produce content for one piece of media, you are legally or sometimes informally in an agreement not to reuse the content elsewhere.
I'm guessing once you sell the work, even if you made it, it's no longer yours. I'm not a lawyer tho.@@angusperson4222
This is the same thing I was thinking of when I was watching this video
What was the joke?
So pleased you mentioned Goncharov (1973). My parents met at a secret screening of that. Without that film, I never would have been born!
Really loved that movie, wish people would highlight it more
@@123Todayy so sad it's been lost to time 😔
Fr! I've heard of a few other married couples for whom Goncharov had special significance and I've started inviting dates over to watch it partially as a litmus test, partially for good luck. I'm so glad it blew up like this ♥
Im so sad I never got to watch it! My parents loved the movie
@@IgirlbossedTooCloseToTheSunMartin Scorsese was involved, how the fuck was it lost to time?
Or is there a joke I'm not getting here, I'm legitimately very interested in Scorsese's work so a lost film he produced sounds really interesting to me.
In the span of 2 videos Hbomb has somehow deleted an entire Guiness World Record and sparked the largest plagiarism discussion the most recent years has seen
"deleted an entire Guiness World Record " can you please elaborate? havent heard of this
@@ridiaraspberry4095when he informed about information about a Guinness World Record held by Tommy Tallarico (don't know if I spelled that right, but the person the oof.mp3 video was about), he first got a response that Guiness didn't have the requested information because it was done through an "outside expert", and 2 weeks later the record had disappeared from their site and record of records.
Tommy Tallarico, the person that Hbomb discusses in ROBLOX_OOF.mp3, originally had a Guinness World Record of the "Most Prolific Video Game Composer." This world record had various complications around it, like how he always called the "person who worked on the most video games in their lifetime" and how the number of games apparently connected to this world record kept growing in spite of Tallarico being mostly retired on game work.
So Hbomberguy's editor, Kat, asked Guinness themselves how the record was verified, and Guinness basically said "it wasn't. A consultant we approved of verified it for us." meaning that Guinness did not have a full list of video games that Tallarico worked on because it was never given to them directly.
Later, Hbomberguy went back to find a screenshot of the record in question, and... it's no longer in the list. It's gone, it's completely vanished from the Guinness World Record website. And when people say he deleted an entire world record, this is what they're refering to- Kat asked Guinness information on the record, Guinness basically said they had no information, and then Guinness seemingly removed it from the website sometime between the email exchanges and Hbomberguy trying to find it again.
@@ridiaraspberry4095 it's in his "oof" video. tommy tallarico had a record that said he was the "most prolific composer of videogames" or something like that with 300+ videogames. hbomb's producer, Kat, asked for a list of games to confirm that they had the evidence, and Guiness just ******* deleted tommy's record!
"Two videos" makes it seem like a much shorter amount of time than it has been lol
Tom I _promise_ you describing 20k as a life changing amount of money is the opposite of "unrelatable"
I thought the same thing! It's not an insignificant amount of money, but 20k isn't even half of minimum wage in the EU.
For, what I assume is, a permanent license to be used by a long standing entertainment institution in a country as developed as France, 20k is a steal. I don't blame Tom for taking it, I'm sure he felt incredibly guilt (although he shouldn't have), but with proper guidance he could've gotten WAAAY more, especially with the circumstance, cuz they were DESPERATE.
The comparison to Tommy Tallarico are hilarious. I wanted _this much_ and then they just gave me 100x that.
@jozina1 uh... for a wage to be half of 20k it'd have to be like 8 per hour.
I don't know minimum wages in the Netherlands, but I'm willing to bet my cat's college fund not a single country in the EU has a minimum wage that low
@@Kei-ye8ifdifferent places have different living costs so it costs less in some places do they get paid less
@@Kei-ye8ifin Estonia minimum wage is like 4,86€/h bro 😢😂
"I didn't invent the concept of liking trains... That was autism" holy shit I am legit rolling on the floor laughing after this one
Absolute banger ngl
as an autistic person i approve. i’ve seen trains, elevators (a kid built a functioning miniature elevator for my middle school science fair! it was awesome!), one kid who was into quantum theory (his name was caleb he was really cool), taylor swift, dogs, and in my case, politics
@@sylverscribs0490 As a train special interest autistic person, I also approve. Despite being an adult, I want to go to my state's children's museum to look at their massive model trains....
No, everyone knows that was Tommy Talarico!
Honestly, the whole story about tracking down the Chinese ad agency was hilarious, congrats to Victor for his dental practice
I liked your comment
@@Gront517 i liked your reply
Holy crap, I was a freelance Chinese-English translator on Fiverr while I was getting my Masters degree in Xi'an, and I edited the English subtitles for Rise of Kingdoms ads! I'm so glad other people have joined me in this surrealist hellscape. I wish they had hired me to edit the scripts BEFORE shooting, but... alas....
Xi'an, sweet
“I am a Chinese-English translator, I’d be great for this translation job!”
“Oh yeah? Well, I have 50 million power in Rise of Kingdo-“
New RUclips feature; if you plagiarize someone, Hbomber appears in your room and full nelson head locks you until youre unconscious and he deletes your channel
Ok but what if that was the goal 😏
with warhammer 40k logic, if enough people believe that exact thing, it becomes real.
@@supadumi5489 blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne, plagiarists for the bomber man
I'm okay with this.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
Tomska actually has a world record for the most RUclips videos ever made. His mother is very proud.
"Tomska actually has a world record for the most RUclips videos ever made. His mother is very proud."
- *An original comment by Randomstuffs*
I got more points in World of Rising Tankcrafts, and now his Mom is proud to gyrate on me.
@@silverXnoise His mother plagiarised the gyrating motion from me
The record in question: Most RUclips videos ever made (…by a guy named Tom… on the Tomska channel… on a Wednesday… if you squint).
His mother is very proud.
@@Randomstuffs261 Thanks, it’s very nice.
39:36 The way Jonathan Coulton added his name is like how map designers add trap streets to maps to detect forgeries.
this *might* be a jay foreman reference
Is that when Devs put in hidden messages to tell players who made it?
@@linearcurvewhich itself is a John Green reference, which we all know is just a reference to an Esso map from the early 20th century
An entire street just up and vanished and you think thats normal? (Doctor Who reference)
Jay foreman fan detected
At this point Hbomb has
a) spawned an entire new trend/subgenre of drama-entertainment
b) potentially played no small part in saving creative industries from predatory behaviour by making plagiarism "THE conversation"
One problem when a serious issue becomes drama tho is people stop caring it goes from a simple discussion to “this person is bad cancel him” it becomes so washed that people forget what the original point was to begin with. Prime example react drama it’s happened 3 times and by the end it became semantics and people stopped caring
c) hated on Fallout 3 and praised Fallout New Vegas for the exact same things
@@herowither12354 Not sure if you're baiting or mad but either way you're incorrect so 🤷♀️
@@TheVeeBeaT & @herowither5031 it’s just a game kids, your both entitled to your own opinions
I'm not sure Harry WANTS that kind of responsibility...
I once had a prof accuse me of plagiarism on an online exam because in the essay section, I mentioned vaguely similar points in almost the same order to another exam from 6 years earlier. She insisted I must have gotten a copy of this other person's answer. Not a single citation was the same, no phrases were the same, and I didn't even go to that school, this was a one-off course to finish my degree. She had 300+ people per class per semester, hadn't changed the exam in at least 15 years, she had made it very clear that she expected us to basically parrot back her lectures to her in the exam, and she gave us the essay questions ahead of time, so I had gone through her lectures and written an outline ahead of time based on what she said she wanted to read. At that point, it would be statistically impossible NOT to get similar essays through parallel thinking, I'd be shocked if I was the only one even that semester.
Your professor is lazy, unmotivated and stupid, all opposites of what a good teacher should be.
Did they fail you?
lower stakes, but having studied a STEM subject a uni with many friends studying similar subjects , we often had a mild paranoia when we happend on phrasing for a thing that can only be phrased clearly a few ways (e.g. 'the force increases with distance from the fulcrum' ) and we'd wind up with a 10-20% plagiarism rating on certain assignments- Lecturers let common sense prevail that it wasn't stolen, just phrased similarly, but it's not a surprise that formulaic education creates formulaic answers that often come out similarly phrased.
I'm not surprised by this. Heck, there's one point where I got "caught" plagiarizing in a programming course ... because the other two people who triggered it had been sitting next to me in the computer lab we worked on the assignments for this course during and had the same issue, so we all asked advice from the upperclassman running the lab and implemented the fix we were recommended. Makes it funnier given this was a programming course, and barring coding in a nearly dead programming language, it's nigh impossible to code something 100% different from what may have been submitted before, especially in a course of 100+ students
@@rayhatesuidk how coding in latin would change that
Can’t believe TomSka invented James Somerton and Tommy Tallarico for us to use as short hand for “person who plagiarizes” and “person who takes credit for the work of others and lies about their own accomplishments to seem cooler and more successful” respectively! I’d love to see an HBomberguy do a video about your amazing contributions to internet culture and content!
His mother is very proud
And then a certain Wolf with a s-s-sniper reacts to that video, meaning nobody watches the original.
@@thesnesman5235 I tried to reply to you with a fake IP adress I made by mindlessly typing, but youtube seems to have filtered that out. Just imagine there's an IP adress here.
Can’t believe TomSka invented James Somerton and Tommy Tallarico for us to use as short hand for “person who plagiarizes” and “person who takes credit for the work of others and lies about their own accomplishments to seem cooler and more successful” respectively! I’d love to see an HBomberguy do a video about your amazing contributions to internet culture and content! Can’t believe I managed to make an original reply too!
thank you for explaining the joke, i couldnt find the reference anywhere!
If I had heard the word "cryptobro" 15 years ago, I would have assumed its a guy who really likes to solve puzzles :)
The fact that saying crypto in the computer science building in university went from meaning cryptography class to cryptocurrency is the biggest hurt I feel from the most inconsequential thing that happened to me.
like bruce schneier?
Yea or a guy who's really into cryptids, like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster and stuff
@@ob2kenobi388 thats called a nerd
to be fair that's how mining cryptocurrency works, its computers having a puzzle solving race for a big shiny prize (pennies) (and its terrible for the environment)
Tom: I didn’t invent the concept of liking trains.
Me: That’s autism
Tom: That was autism
SAME HAT
preemptive plagiarism
/s
that's actually parallel thinking
I can't believe At Arcade Underscore Cat Underscore would blatantly admit to plagiarizing Tommy Tallarico's very creative joke! Shame on them!! /j
@@rodrigoportalesoliva897 their mother is very ashamed of them
@@zer0ishereEh, idk if that is, it’s just an extremely popular meme based on a stereotype
I want a full studio version of "Big truck, love Christ; second truck, hate wife"
Yessss!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you heard "What bro country sounds like to people who don't like bro country" from the channel "There I Ruined It"?
Currently there are only the reuploads, because of copyright strikes by Universal Music Group.
Two Trucks - TomSka
@@Surepeacooler Two trucks one wife
my worst act of plagarism was when i forgot to do an assignment in high school, so my friend lent me theirs and said "just reword mine it's cool" and then i did and i got a higher grade than them and to this day i feel so dirty for doing it
I plagiarised my business studies teacher once, he called my work "the badger". That was 11 years ago, still not sure what he meant.
@@WoodlandKi'm gonna think about this comment for the rest of my life
I did the reverse by doing an assignment for both me and my friend in one of our IT classes, and letting him pass it off as his own. (In return for him doing the same for me for a different assignment.)
My assignment was a typing game. His was a flappy bird clone. His assignment got a higher score than mine.
@@macskasbogre133I know this feel, it sucks even more especially when your assignment that they made for you (returning the favor) scored lower than theirs.
I made this thing one time it got lots of hate because people thought it was plaigerized so I took it down before I realized that I had made the "plaigerized" thing aswell and I remade the "plaigerized" one and people think I plaigiarizid the second thing and it's was very wierd situation (pls dont find it(and if you know it dont speak its name))
In elementary I "made" a series from "scratch" and my teacher really liked it so she would read it out to the class whenever i would make a new chapter and eventually compiled all the pieces of paper i wrote on a into a folder so she could show others how talented one of her students was. In actuality I would just go home and write down word for word a story that someone on flipnote hatena was making and pretend it was my own. I think the only original part I wrote was the ending but it sucked so the teacher asked me to go back and rewrite it and I just ended up copying the original ending too. 😭
Omfg that is so bad 💀
When I was in elementary school we had a group where we’d share things we wrote and I would steal lyrics from songs I like and pretend I wrote them. I eventually got caught when my dumb ass thought I could get away with stealing All the Things She Said 💀
@@perrytheplatyhoe3501 millions must plaigarise
THE ORANGE FROG APP FROM DS!? that brings back so many memories
You know the story with the two people in the hospital. One is blind, the other can see and is by the window.
Every day the window guy would describe what’s going on outside. Beautiful birds, kids playing, all that. Described it all to the blind man so he could get a little taste.
The seeing man either died or got better, whatever a new guy too the seeing man’s bed. The blind man one day asks the new guy to describe what’s going on outside like his old friend did.
This confuses the new guy. Ends with “I’m not sure what you’re talking about, all I can see is a brick wall.”
Edit: oh yeah gotta actually conclude this. I ripped that story for creative writing. Basically half the class knew because I told them. My teacher was super impressed 😂
I never noticed how many times BDG, Tom Scott, Tomska and HBomberGuy collabed before. Love all 4!
thanks dude
UK youtubers seem fairly close. Also list includes Ashens and Jay Foreman
Should watch Tomska and Tom Scott battle over who the better Tom is. That video is great, especially the ending.
It's funny how it's all connected.
brian and da brits
A good example of the subconscious appropriation is in "Everything, Everywhere, All at Once" the writers wrote a line they realized not long after was from "Story of a Girl" by Nine Days and in place of replacing it or calling out the allusion chose to just make it a running gag to the point basically every universe visited has a different version of that exact song playing somewhere
omg that’s hilarious, i love that idea for handling it
@@plushdragonteddy its like top 3 ways of handling something like that
what was the line?
@@bambii-_ "your clothes never wear as well the next day and your hair never falls in quite the same way" it was while the alternate daughter was telling the mom about the alternate universes and why things suck.
Not sure how I missed that. I absolutely (haha) love that song.
"The Somerton appropriation scale." Take that phrase and add a bracketed number after it and you could probably get away with putting it in a academic paper.
and then in the sources put _me, just now_
I wonder if I can rate the papers I review like this. Or the homework solutions.
You should make a skit about a dentist who turns out to have a dark past involving some sort of drug crime. That sounds like a fascinating and very original story.
For thirty seconds I was thinking about how Breaking Bad didn't have a dentist in it. Then things clicked and I laughed. Now I think that is a great inspiration for a book, movie, or skit. I hope I remember this when I see it on Netflix or RUclips or wherever.
I don't know if this is sarcasm or real, and if it is real I need to see it immediately o-o
Payday 2 Dentist
What is this referencing
@@Quackervoltz36:20 to 36:38. That's the reference lol
As a massive Jonathan Coulton fan, I have to thank you for getting the word out about that Glee BLATANT plagiarism scandal. It went almost unnoticed at the time, and I hear people talking about how much they love the Glee version all the time, totally unaware it's a copy of Jonathan's. Sadly he never got his day in court, even though it's blatant cloning (i.e. the literal usage of his name!) But, my hope is that with this video, more people will be able to find out JoCo wrote that amazing interpretation, and if they like it, they should support him. If you love his stuff, go buy a T-shirt or CD or something, he's a really cool guy!
as a fellow joco fan, the glee version is ass
I heard about it off the social media of his buddy Brad Sucks when it happened, and am still mad about it. I already hated Glee with a passion as is back then lmao
For those reading that are unaware: Jonathan Coulton literally wrote the end songs for the Portal games. Most of you already love his work, you just don't know it.
(Also my dad fuckin loves him. Code Monkey is a staple of family road trips)
This whole time, I had always assumed Glee was covering Coulton's song, and had legitimately gotten the rights to do so. (I didn't know who Coulton was, but I'd run into his video on RUclips.)
I'm honestly surprised they didn't try to pay him off as soon as he called them. Did he not pursue it legally at all?
"I'm your moon" is legit one of the most underated songs out there. if I ever get the chance, i'm including it in something i make the second it's appropriate. with royalties, licensing, and proper credit, mind. i'm not glee >:/
"Good artists copy, great artists steal." - Tommy 'TomTa' Talarico.
His mother is very proud.
Tom never feel guilty for your work being paid for by corporations because they would have paid you 300 quid if they didnt offer you 20k. Most companies would offer exposure, get that bag and run to the bank.
Yeah, I was horrified when he said "300 euros". It's a big production by a big company in a big country with a big audience, they have to pay accordingly. Also aside from your own worth, there's always the risk that if you let them get off the hook practically for free, they'll be encouraged to "take inspiration" from other small creators and lowballing them and their own writers because "hey, we don't NEED to pay that much." Glad they made the first offer!
When dealing with big companies like that, it's important that you ask for what it's worth to them, not what it's worth to you.
Reall‼️‼️🗣️
It's funny because they probably super excited that he took the lowest offer they offered. They most likely lowballed him at 20k.
@@Nanoqtran
Exactly! If something like that happens between an artist and a big company you haggle like an old jewish grandma at the Shuk!
Milk that cow because god knows you can use the cash.
Imagine selling your car and licencing a RUclips property for 20000€ when the guy you are licencing from just wanted some Lego
my favorite accidental plagiarism was when, just a few years ago, i came up with a story about a bunch of weird guys with superpowers who entered people's brains to defeat their traumas and resolve their problems
a few months later i discovered psychonauts was a thing
Tbh that sounds more like parallel thinking than plagiarism. After all, you'd never heard of the prominent work that also used the concept at the time, you came up with it independently.
Also the persona series, at the very least 4 and 5 (I haven’t played 1-3 so idk if those apply as well)
was gonna say the exact same thing so I'll say it was Parallel Thinking@@pan.gremlin
at this point, there is no way for any human to come up with any story idea that doesn't have something in common with another story that was told before. it's kinda how people keep reinventing homestuck, but homestuck itself was reinventing a polish folk tale and a bunch of other things.
@@beloveduser sorry, what do you mean homestuck was reinventing a polish folk tale
is there a polish folk tale where kids team up with bisexual aliens and their alternate reality gay parents to fight a chess dog and a sexist green skeleton who uses deviantart
I love this new edition to the "man has an existential crisis while making a video about plagiarism" genre
Indeed this should be a whole genre now
“The… End! Thanks for watching my brief 4 hour video on plagiarism”
So at the very least James wrote this right? RIGHT????? NO!!!!!!!!!!
@@Delta-ei7imThe same energy as "Sell their houses to who Ben, FUCKING AQUAMAN!!"
Oh god I was worried when you mentioned Jonathan Coulton. I'm glad he didn't plagiarize anything, but damn the balls of the Glee producers to say they didn't steal his composition when his fucking name is in the song is wild
I'm pretty sure he'd have a solid court case, if he cared enough.
@@Arkouchie I think because of the licensing agreement Coulton signed, he doesn't really have a case.
I remember when I was a kid I used to trace bases or "how to draw" books for art. And I remember being ROASTED on every website for "Stealing art".
And then I went into art in college and soooo many assignments were "here is a work, here is a light box, you're going to have to trace this" and the cognitive whiplash of "Tracing is the WORST SIN YOU COULD EVER HAVE AS AN ARTIST EVEN IF YOU MAKE 0 MONEY OFF OF DOING SO, EVEN JUST TO PRACTICE/EXPERIMENT" to "Yeah like 80% of what you're going to ever do as an artist in a money making role is tracing, and tracing is literally one of the most important and necessary tools for all artists, so get good at it so it looks original and not like a jittery mess" was ... bigger than I expected.
Art circles on the internet dont have anything to do with actual art schools. Every single advice they give you is a lie and just something they made up. Im glad i went to art school and never was a part of any internet art clique, its the most toxic pit ive ever.
Tracing is a GREAT tool. I always recommend people to trace 3d models and especially hands as addition to learning how they work; thing is, these advices and the "a hand is bunch of tubes! :)" breakdowns NEVER account for the fact that such simplistic boiling down to basic geometry doesnt leave a room to the fact that human body, is, well, plastic and dynamic, secondly, it occupies 3d space which you cant easily teach, thirdly, your BRAIN has to be trained and WILL lie to you. All of this is easily overcome by simply tracing from photos or 3d models, as your brain will learn from your own hands and it is so much easier. Of course you also need the breakdowns, all im saying is youll get much better results by including tracing into your training.
And the art circles on the internet WANT you to suffer and be beaten down and put in a ton of hard work for no reason at all. Measuring artist's integrity by how much they suffer is an incredibly toxic mindset and it takes a lot of time to unlearn such unhealthy ideas. Art schools (well the good ones) want you to work smart, not hard. Theres already a lot of hard work in being an artist, you dont need to try and prove anything.
Some people have a very screwed understanding of what plagiarism is.
Sometimes there is a right way and there is a wrong way, and doing it the wrong way because someone did it before is just...
South Park literally had an episode dedicated to this issue.
I'm so glad you mentioned Martin Scorsese's underrated masterpiece Goncharov, nobody ever talks about it these days
My favorite character from Goncharov is Ice Pick Joe
Definitely a cult classic
@@alexlongfur2515 SAME, i love lil fucked up guys
YES! Goncharov got absolute screwed by the execs with the marketing budget, but it’s such a great film.
confused martin scorsese with martin shkreli and was very confused.
didn't realize price-gouging AIDS medicine qualified as a masterpiece, but ok.
A benefit of this whole plagiarism drama is that people are becoming more aware about how hard it is to be creative, and why creative skills are worth paying for. Cause not everyone has them.
Unfortunately, those people are now offloading the work onto A.I. & the culpability onto the companies who develop said A.I.
@@rembrandx i think people are WAY to afraid of AI for art in any form. Cause it is noticeable if it was made by AI. IT baicly just maeks GOOD creative work more valuable.
Not everyone _has_ them but very few people can't _get_ them. Just like any other skill, it's not inate, it has to be developed, trained up and maintained. And if you allow me to be topical and date my comment, typing "anime girl big big big bazonkas massive glossy lips in style of ArtistWhoIsGood" in a prompter is no replacement for learning the craft.
@@AbigatorM I'm reminded of a quote from someone, probably me, right now: if you're not afraid, you haven't been paying attention. The data was stolen ("collected") long before most artists knew to raise a fuss, and now it's so pervasive it's literally being integrated into MS Paint. Any wrinkles you may have been able to spot are being ironed out daily and the only way you'd know the difference is if the person/entity in question felt some ethical obligation to admit it.
Let me put it this way: corporations, particularly the shameless "non-creative" ones, aren't going to look at a slow, expensive human artist, and a fast, cheap AI service and say, "Yeah, let's go with the one that costs more and might produce something we don't like." Not if they don't have to.
@@AbigatorM I wish that were so, but the capabilities of recent Midjourney and the likes has improved massively in a short time. For commercial companies, 'good enough with little effort' is better than 'fantastic and paying people for it'.
We're already seeing AI being brought into commercial projects (eg. advertising, movie intro's, …). In my industry, it's actively used in (sales) presentations and looking at my LinkedIn stream, a lot of people are aching to implement it in the concepts & design phases. They don't care about great creative art, mediocre or slightly good is fine for them.
the goncharov reference slapped me in the face and then the picture of the rat kissed me on the mouth. thank you tom
I like your shoelaces
@@carydorse705 No. Those words are not to be spoken here. Tumblr does not belong in the comment section.
@@mousesteam7882no, Tumblr belongs to every hidden corners, every nearly derelict spaces.
You don't get to say where Hellsite™ can be found, nerd.
@@carydorse705 thanks, i got them from the president
@@mousesteam7882This Code was originally made for IRL tumblr-to-tumblr communication, you cannot keep us out
I remember as a kid, I think I was 11 or 12, writing a short story about werewolves where I "came up" with the idea of calling the werewolves "lycans." I was actually super proud at the time for coming up with that, as if shortening the word "lycanthrope" was some stroke of genius. While trying to come up with ideas to take the story, though, I discovered that a movie I hadn't seen before, Underworld, was already using the word "lycan" to refer to their werewolves. I remember being legitimately angry finding that out. Like, *I* came up with that, it's not fair that someone else came up with the same idea completely independently. I think that was probably my first conscious experience with parallel thinking, and apparently the concept was too much for my dumb kid brain to handle. Funnily enough, the actual story I wrote was probably just a straight rip off of the Cirque du Freak series with a bit of Darren Shan's other books sprinkled in as well. Definitely something I look back on and laugh about.
Lycanthropy both as word and a concept (tho it can be argued that most civilizations have some sort of man-wolf mythos) comes from King Lycaon' name, who was cursed by Zeus into a werewolf, neither of you came up with it, sorry
@@HouseDagothCultist I literally never said I came up with the word "Lycanthropy", but okay.
As someone who has been saying for years that the potatoe in "Die Potatoe!" should have been a tomatoe, because potatoes aren't that squishy, I feel incredibly validated. (My mother is very proud)
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Tom going crazy over 20k to build his studio is the most relatable thing I have ever seen. There are youtubers out here who wipe their ass with more who think they are relatable when talking about money.
It isn't crass. Bleed TV Networks dry if you can. He'll knows they'd do the same to you
yo we have similar pfp's
tom almost asking for just 300 bucks is so funny to me... how did he still not know what he was worth. how much money THEY made off of that sketch,, bless him
It's certainly a conversation to be had with digital media creators! If you've only ever worked on commission, your instinct will be to just add up the cost of your time, materials and labor to arrive at the total you should be paid for that work. But if your work is going to create revenue for the buyer (or already has,) that math all goes straight out the window and you have to calculate based on an entirely different scale.
300 insane! It's thinking in the scope of people money, instead of corporation money. For a random person, 300 euro is a pretty penny. To a corporation that's absolutely nothing.
Even 20,000, idk. I feel like if he surmised that €300 and multiplied it by 4 (it was meant to run four times a week), assuming it ran for 40 weeks...That's...that's where i would've started
@@thezachman120k is closer to 70 weeks than 40 (so more than a year) if multiply 300
If they were offering 20k right off the bat, then he probably could have asked for 30k. You know that's their lowball number
Fun fact: this video almost killed me. I was watching it alone while eating dinner and the joke about trains and autism caused me to choke on my food. I spit it back up, but if that had gone just a little differently that was it for me.
Great video though.
Darn that’s a shame. I’ve been wanting your Xbox for a long time, guess I’ll just have to wait until Oct 6 2025
A goncharov joke within the first three minutes is the best. Gotta be my favourite movie of all time.
Yes, it is definitely one of the films of all time
so happy to see it getting the recognition it deserves!
lost my mind at the "that was autism" joke. being autistic, im not that used to autism jokes being so tasteful, funny, and well executed
agree lmao, love it when a joke about autism can actually be funny without calling anyone down
Yeah that genuinely made me giggle, well done tom
Unironically that interview with James about the mobile game adds is actually really cool
And i guess congrats to victor on his redemption arc i hope his dental practice good
In East Asia knowing "American style dentistry" is like *the way to go,* as it were. Granted who knows where he learned, I wish I could have been booted out of America for good when I got my felony drug charge lol
@@Yixdy I don't think he got booted, pretty sure he said he ran and now obviously cannot go back.
Having the Surfshark ad be a mockery of the ads made by the company that appropriated your own work; and right after you talked about them no less, was a very creative decision
To be fair, the Dennis The Menace one is easily explained by the fact that "Dennis The Menace From Venice" was in the top hits at the time.
So they are both based on plagiarism? Lol, that makes almost too much sense. :D
The American version was actually named after something the Creator's wife said after their son was... Being a menace. Also, yes, his son was named Dennis. (Also, from what I've read, he isn't the best dad.)
"Your son is a menace!"
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic
Ps. original comment by me pls don't steal
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic
Okay, I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was put together so genuinely well that I think it adds fantastically to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic.
-Based on the comment of DinnyOrSomething
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your Rise of Kingdoms video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic
Ps. original comment by me pls don't steal
Okay so I know this started off as a jokey "I'm gonna steal your plagiarism video idea lol irony" but this was genuinely so well put together that I think it works as a fantastic addition to Hbomberguy's video to explore the different levels, kinds and alternatives to plagiarism to really define the topic
Ps. original comment by me pls don't steal
Tommy Tallarico had a major role in the creation of this video and it really tells. This amount of dedication shows why he was chosen to be the first American to work on sonic.
his mother must be very proud
who?
@@giggabiite4417tommytalarico, he made you
@giggabiite4417 he's the first American to kiss sonic on his cheek! He personally held hands with Miyamoto while making Metroid Prime! He made the entirety of Roblox! And he has 100 world records!
@@giggabiite4417 Subject of an earlier HBomberguy video about the origin of the "oof" sound from Roblox. Long story short, he's made a lot of false and misleading claims about his contributions to games, including taking credit for his subordinates' work. Being the first American to work on Sonic was one of those claims.
the fact that “Praise for Tommy Tallarico is a category”
Tom and Eddie dubbing each other for the ad is way funnier than it should be
I have not watched the video yet and this comment made me giggle in excitement for a freaking ad. Tom has done did the impossible.
I knew that there was something off with their voices!
French Meanwhile's director trying to reach out to you through facebook is such an obvious tell as to what French TV people thought of internet creators (and other mediums) at the time
Seriously when I heard Facebook Messenger I went full Southern Grandma: “Oh hun…”
The interview with James is actually SUPER interesting, it’s really cool you were able to contact him!
Fr like why arent more peple talking about this!!
A drug related exiled american being a successful dentist and an actor in chinese mobile game ads wasnt what i expected
The way I thought this was about the James whose surname is in the title 🤣 I really went "hold up, he got in contact with JAMES?!"
Beautifully done. You truly did have me in the first half, ngl.
@@Cerise4697 I totally didn’t even think of that LMAO
The video of He-man singing "HEEYAEYAEYAAEYEA" that you've probably seen is a plagiarized version. The video, titled "Fabulous Secret Powers", was made by SlackCircus and posted on the Something Awful forum in 2005, and then on the SlackCircus youtube channel in 2007, where it currently has only 6 million views. Meanwhile, in 2010, youtube user ProtoOfSnagem edited out the beginning and end of the song, called it HEEYAEYAEYAAEYEA, posted it on their own account, and then, apparently, vanished. The bootleg version currently has 218 million views and is the only version most people are aware of.
Is it me or did Hbombs latest video create this sort of collective plagiarism anxiety attack among creatives? Regardless, it's good to see so many, guilty or not, reflect on the issue like this.
Thing is we've known for a long time that plagiarism is rampant, given RUclips is a space that elevates people with little to no accountability relative to other media.
Hbomb's video just opened up the floodgates and made a lot of people aware of what it can sometimes look like when people plagiarize on this platform.
I would say this is the first I've seen a creator evaluate and point out their own plagiarism rather than harp on someone else. Honestly, I clicked because TomSka, but stayed for just how interesting this analysis turned out to be. I'm glad Hbomb got a cameo too!
Among creators it was another wave of self doubt/realization, because we usually feel like a hack on some level. While for the general public, showing that prominent people, yes even the big ones you may like, was a revelation. It's just not something most people were thinking about, or was a "yeah those people are dicks, but MY person who I like would never!" I sometimes find doing my research on people to be fun and fascinating, but that's not the case for most people.
I've recently watched two videos of a RUclipsr, the first video was uploaded before his video. No sources in the description. The second one was uploaded after. Sources all neatly cited. As someone who wants to study history, I never fucking understood how anyone does not want to cite their sources.
Me, personally, I intended to make a shit ton of RUclips videos since 2017, but I was too too focused on copyright and plagiarism.
Now I’m just stuck on everything on that but also privacy, perfectionism, and a healthy routine
Ok the fact I’ve been a fan of you and Harris for years and I never noticed Harry Potter in Wizo the wizard was hbomberguy is extremely depressing
omg
Omg he literally showed HBG and I didn't even notice until your comment. Either I'm an idiot who wasn't paying attention to Tomska or I'm an idiot for missing HBG.
Same Jonathan, same. As TomSka fan from childhood (now I don't watch much but still love his old sketches/animations). And currently huge fan of Harry's "Harris' " (Hbomberguy) since I stopped taking red/black pills and went to left pill (I recommend it highly, it's the best pill!) since 2016/7 (I was 15/16 lol. 90% of people who believe and wants other to believe too in red/black pill are just virgin teenagers, please find a girl guys). I'm really disappointed that I watched that like 10 times but i recognized Harry just now, by that part of a sketch. Not only I didn't recognize Harry's voice BUT I DIDN'T IDENTIFY HIM BY LOOK, I THOUGHT IT'S A RANDOM BLOKE ACTOR for four damn years. I'm disappointed in myself
I hadn't seen the sketch, but when it appeared in the video I immediately noticed, and I know that Tom and Harry are friends offline, because I've seen them reply to each and appear in videos together
i like how it slyly makes it a double reference, because if you _do_ recognize him ... well, that makes him _harris_ the potter
In one of my college literature courses, the professor explained that originality does not mean “to be unique” because that is an impossible feat. Rather, the intended use of the word “original” was something more akin to “from origin.”
In other words, for a work to be “original” it had to be derived from a preexisting work or thought (the “origin”), but adapted/reworked from a different angle.
Originality is the creation of something new via repurposing something old. Originality is to be inspired by something without directly copying it. There needs to be something additive or transformative.
Originality always has an origin; it’s never created via nothing. Nothing only produces more nothingness. Uniqueness is the myth that kills originality.
Is not the fact that it is "adapted/reworked from a different angle" what makes it unique, though?
That makes me feel a little better, actually. Thanks :)
@@KainYusanagi Technically, yes, but many people tend to think of uniqueness as being “entirely different and without similarities” or “that which is other and wholly new.” When you define originality by those unobtainable standards of uniqueness, the creative process is quashed before it can even begin, often resulting in despair and self-doubt. In other words, it’s a potential thought killer.
@@MiraBoo I would disagree there that *many* people tend to think of uniqueness as solely being "entirely different without ANY similarities", or "being other and wholly new"; One example would be Salt & Sanctuary, which obviously borrows much from the Soulsborne series to the point that it is actively acknowledged by both communities, yet it is still seen as a completely unique experience, because of the adaptation to a different style and function that it has done. You see this with many games that are derivative of others, *so long as they are sufficiently transformative*; otherwise, they are simply labelled as derivative, such as Lords of the Fallen (the first one, not the recent one that is a reboot and confusingly has the same name; that one actually did a pretty good job of it).
@@KainYusanagi As I said before, you’re technically correct. Plenty of people, especially creatives, inherently understand that the saying “nothing is original” should be amended to “everything is original-unless deliberately stolen.”
If I recall correctly, Copyright (which protects IP) was intended to expire sooner than it does because it was understood that the Public Domain was necessary for creativity to flourish. We need to have free access to the works and ideas of others in order to make anything “original.” IPs shouldn’t be gate-kept indefinitely and for numerous generations. To be original is to be partially derivative via nature.
35:39 "Nice Argument Senador but why don't You Backup with a Source?"
"My Source is that I saw this in a Porn"
The pacing of the "Jesus Christ!" "Yes?" **SCREAM** bit was extremely fluid and had me on the floor, good job Kai.
that was gold
This seems like the perfect chance to finally confess this sin:
When I was in 3rd grade, we had to do creative writing. And my teacher was very impressed with how many pages I was able to produce. But what she didn't know, is that I was just writing, word for word, the script of the Magic School Bus episode "Gets Lost in Space" (The one where Arnold takes off his helmet on Pluto and basically dies). I don't think I ever got passed Mars before that assignment ended, but I still spent several days in class writing the script, from memory, and passing it off as my own work. Sure I was 8 or 9 years old, I probably wasn't trying to steal, and my dumb little self probably just thought "tell a story" and didn't know the meaning of the word "original. But 25 years later, I still remember it. Straight up Cloning on the Somerton Scale.
That episode traumatized me as a child
@@misteryA555 I like Space
I mean, I'd be impressed you had it memorized.
Forwarding this to Hbomb, your days are numbered m8
In this case, that teacher should have been able to tell, isn't the space episode one of the most well known episodes of the magic school bus
And magic school bus is also i think the second most played in schools show
Holy shit I'm glad you included the story about Meanwhile, that's so fucking cool and honestly a massive win. Very based
It's even more astounding that this is probably the lowest they thought he would accept. Tom could have probably negotiated up to at least double. Life changing indeed.
Jokes aside, I think your Somerton Scale is actually a very useful way to think about this whole issue and assess works of creativity. Appreciate your honesty in exploring this.
26:55
This is so funnily similar to that one iCarly episode, I don't remember exactly what it was, but Carly and her friends were going to make an offer to a company that wanted rights to something, I think intellectual property to do a show.
Carly's squad did a quick pow-wow and decided that they will only ask for 300 dollars, because they didn't want to sound too needy and it was for something they thought was pretty insignificant.
The board members come back, Carly says "we'll do it for 300" and the head board guy says "You've got a deal; 300,000 dollars"
smh another time Tomska shamelessly stole someone else's creative work, I can't believe he orchestrated that whole sequence of events just to have a funny story to tell.
@@gray007nliCarly doesn't have a creator, and you can't prove me wrong.
No, I didn't steal that line from Quinton Hoover, also known as Quinton Reviews.
iCarly Saves TV is the episode, if you’re curious. (Could also be the shoes one, the wording’s a touch odd)
@@PxPtheBook it's Saves TV.
It's parallel thinking. Normal people just have no idea of the scale corporations work at. Your fancy dinner is their pocket change.
Scariest moment of uni for me was having one of my essays combed through for plagiarism after a really unfortunate case of parallel thinking. We had to do a close reading of a poem for a first-year lit class, standard 101 stuff. Apparently half my class just googled the poem, and reworded the observations from one of those cheatsheet/cliff notes type sites. Independently of these people, I had read the glossary of poetry terms in our class textbook, and noted that one of the concepts in there (not covered in class) applied to the poem we were analyzing, and I cited the textbook and talked about the implications. This was apparently the exact same observation made by everyone else, thanks to the "first result of a google search" style of analysis. That one citation proving my train of thought literally saved my life, since combined with it being a simple poem with not a lot of room for radical interpretations, it gave me enough deniability to not be worth a formal investigation. The only thing I was guilty of was being boring with my analysis but it still scared me into being very meticulous about citations and not plagiarizing. Can't imagine how the James Somertons of the world risk putting themselves through that kind of scrutiny on purpose
I remember when a couple friends of mine at uni had a similar experience. It was a different subject (a report on the current and potential applications of a particular concept in physics), but they just so happened to 1) both come up with the same potential future application that noone else had, 2) word it in almost exactly the same way, and 3) randomly go to different friends within our group for proofreading.
If they had asked the same friend (or each other) to proofread, as they often did, it would have been noticed.
If they'd worded things more differently, it wouldn't have been an issue.
If they weren't both excellent at Physics and therefore able to come up with more obscure/creative ideas, it wouldn't have happened in the first place.
In this case, the university (thankfully) realised that it really was just a coincidence/parallel thinking, and that there weren't actually a huge number of ways to properly word the application's definition in the first place, but it was a scary time for all of us. Mostly them, of course, but our whole friends group was shaken by it. Obviously it therefore quickly became a running joke, but man. Can't imagine doing that on purpose and not immediately shitting myself with fear of being caught.
Probably because they never went through that experience and just expect to get away with it.
I love your Vash the Stampede profile pic! Trigun is spectacular ❤
Wow, it’s wild that they just killed the students who didn’t cite their sources!
Biggest fear right there tbh, glad that it was resolved in a good way for you!
I actually have a really good example of parallel thinking from my personal life:
A couple years ago, just before COVID, me and two of my good friends came up with a bit where we would start gaslighting people into thinking we had a 4th best friend named Eric.
We would make up crazy stories that included him, or insert him into real stories people knew happened to us.
Very quickly people fell into two groups, people who understood it was a bit and played along and people who thought Eric was a real person.
After a while Eric became almost deified; when something would go wrong someone would always say “Where’s Eric when you need him” or when something crazy would happen people would remark “Reminds me of my buddy Eric”.
Flash forward to today, and I see people online using the exact same joke, exact same name, exact same spelling.
At first I thought our joke must have taken on a life of its own. I thought about it for a while and I realized it’s almost impossible for that to be true - it was an inside joke, we never posted anything online about it except for group chats and whatnot.
Still one of the craziest coincidences I’ve ever seen.
Something similar happened to my buddy Eric once.
"I ever tell you about the time me and my buddy *Keith*..."
Left 4 Dead 2 in 2009, baybeeeeeeee
Your guys’ belief made him real like barney
It was Eric. He has stolen your joke and has done well with it.
RUclips channel Alpharad Gold did something similar a few years ago with their editor "tyler" who didnt actually exist, but the editor would obviously play along
"Tyler" the editor was actually one of their friends so maybe its more accurate to call it a pseudonym or somethinf but idk same vibes
18:54 I love how basically every RUclipsr that was around since 2010- absolutely adores Bo, because of the RUclips live performance and because of how far he’s gone after starting really young on, what was at the time, a really small website
he makes every youtuber that was around since 2010 say “oh bo”
Tom giving money to the people that inspired him even when they say they don't care is pretty wholesome. It shows that he cares about this kinda stuff
It also means he has been in many a shitty situation over the years, and tries to avoid them in the future.
And he's a good egg.
@@peterstangl8295mmm... egg 🥚
and later on karma strikes back, in a good way. The French company did just that....
Also he didn’t wanna get sued
I like how that situation is a near exact opposite of what happened with the french TV show
The problem of hearing a melody and forgetting whether you heard it before happens to me so often while songwriting that I end up doing the opposite and convincing myself that a song I wrote is not original the second time I come back to play it, because it sounds familiar (from when I wrote it) and my brain refuses to accept that I hadn’t heard it before writing it.
no because this is so real 😭😭 I caught myself actually accidentally copying a song ONCE and now every time I hear anything I write I'm like "this sounds familiar........from myself"
Music copyright and crediting in general is so fucked. There's a decent video on this from Adam Neely about how "music citation" would be a lot more healthy than how IP is currently enforced (shitty lawsuits and decisions and all)
God same, every song I write I'm convinced already exists. I play it to my friends and say 'WHAT SONG IS THIS!' and hound them, but only once did someone come back and say 'no this one sounds like this Taylor swift song'. Funnily enough I'd never heard the song, but I binned it anyway
@@skunkjo3195 That might be for the best since you can still get in trouble for "copying" songs you've never heard
I think there are music recognition apps that find songs by humming the melody so you can check if it's original there
That point about the French TV show ripping you off then trying to pay you was wild to me. Both because they even admitted any fault at all and tried to rectify it, and also that the amount of 20k is insanely low for any TV show that actually matters. You shoulda got around 400-600k for that.
I initially thought it was 20k per episode, not just a one-time payment. Tom probably should have gotten in touch with a lawyer ASAP to get a constant payroll instead of, what appears to be, hush money.
This is the first quote for the suckers that dont know their worth
Not every TV show business is in the "millions of dollars" bracket, especially with how modern media has been driven away from traditional TV shows. Throwing something like 20-30x higher price sounds like gross overestimation to me, and once you start talking about numbers like that.. That's where the lawyers start to hit their pay-rolls which is a fight that individual content creator can't win against entire TV companies.
Could Tom get more from his idea? Yeah probably.. Should he get greedy over it and potentially end up in legal battle? Absolutely not. 20k is a huge payment for individual person over a relatively short term idea of only 3 short episodes.
I appreciate what you guys are trying to say, but please don't over value stuff or you might end up with nothing at all. Your numbers sound more like gambling addiction than actual rational thinking. Greed is a massive issue in modern times for both corporations and individuals, so please try to avoid falling for it.
@@DelPlays
They made over 100 episodes. The 20k was payment to license the idea for years of content, not just the three. I have zero idea about the proper payment and contracts for these things but 20k seems way on the low end for something that they keep producing and making money off of.
EDIT: I wasn't suggesting a lawyer for some made-up legal battle you imagined. That's just what you do for deals and contracts like that. The lawyer knows how to interpret legal jargon and has a better idea of how these deals usually work. Being called up out of the blue and then immediately being offered 20k is suspicious as fuck.
I gotta say I often feel sorry for the smaller RUclipsrs and content creators that have their ideas stolen. They often get completely overlooked.
Oh GOD that britanic anecdote was PAINFUL like I felt that SO HARD in my SOUL you poor chap
I almost let out an audible yelp when you played the clip of you acknowledging them on stage oh god oh no
i literally had to skip forward i was feeling myself cringe out of my skin 😭 how would you even recover from that
@@obbinss Oh good I wasn't the only one. I get second hand embarrassment really easily and badly and my skeleton wanted to jump out of my skin at that part
@@CurlyJones god i feel you completely as that's exactly how i felt. i physically recoiled at him just describing the situation i think my skeleton would've just broken free from my skin like a butterfly exciting a cocoon if i had actually watched the clip from the event. i just couldn't do it.
I'd actually like to thank you Tom, for being committed enough to an honest conversation about this topic to delve deeply into your own work. I'm sure it was deeply uncomfortable at times to mention your own work and behaviour in this kind of conversation, but it's totally necessary and adds insane value to the conversation that I think most other people shy away from. You didn't run from those feelings you ran to them, lifted them up and said "hey look everybody, the thing you want to talk about!"
Funfact most of the non inspiration stuff (like pinn down beeing copied) he already talked about (in much less detailed) 2 years ago in "funfacts and fuck ups"
Where he went through almost all of his videos and we'll told facts or story's like that
What we learned from Tom's almost accepting 300 for something that he got 20k for: always ask how much theyre willing to pay or let them make the first offer.
The part where the dude on the phone offers you ridiculous money had me laughing harder than I have in a long time. That must have been such a surreal moment. I'm so glad you got that kind of opportunity!
I got my university dissertation capped at 40% for plagiarising myself... That was a special time.
I love this one. I mean, does it count as plagiarism when you are plagiarising yourself?
@@republicansarepedos2my mum always told me I'd go blind if I kept doing it
@@republicansarepedos2yea, if you hand in the same paper twice for example. It's not about what you copy, it's that you're dishonest with it
@@derAtzeThe thing is it kinda falls in line with unconscious plagiarism. It came from the same person, and that same person would probably write the same thing anyway. It just feels unnecessary.
And no, the reason wasn't about honesty. It's because academic papers are usually published through some esoteric publishing companies that really upcharges your papers. Like it's really bad. They made the idea of self plagiarism so the writer couldn't write the similiarly good papers to other companies or to the public. The knowledge stays gatekept to that publisher so if you want to continue that research, you have to publish with them again.
@@derAtze I got charged because two sentences were the same. I had previously done a shorter essay on the same topic in my 2nd year which I had been told wouldn't be an issue.
I think the most fascinating part about this piece is finding out what happens when you ask about things like inspiration in good faith, rather than outright accusing people.
My worst plagiarism I ever did was in high school english, the teacher wanted us to write a piece about plagiarism or something like it (wasnt an exam or anything, just homework), so I found a very convincing essay already written about it and submitted it, it was very obvious, I wasnt trying to hide it... The teacher enjoyed the irony and just made me write my own instead of going down the usual path for plagiarism. :P
lol did you cap it off by putting the other person's name on it?
@@fishtank39 I actually cant remember, if it did, probably not deliberately
I copy+pasted an article in 6th grade to get disqualified from presenting my work. I'd asked my teacher if I could just take a 0 for the presentation part of the grade (public speaking in middle school had me heaving in the hall) and she said it was mandatory. So I just took a 0 for the whole thing
@@emackenzie The amount of times teachers would say you get a 0 for not doing it and then refuse to let me turn in a blank piece of paper. So the only reason I can't just take a 0 is because I told you I'm not doing it instead of just not doing it? Really taught me great communication skills /s
I don't use twitter, but your old skit about self-aware characters in a student film inspired a short play I wrote about self-aware characters in a student play! It's been performed at a few local festivals and I always get compliments on the concept and fast-paced humor.
the most plagairism I've done is liking a story, deciding to change every character's names and most of their personalities, change the story entirely, and never even finish my "reimagining."
So unfinished fan fiction, not the first one. You trying to plagiarise all the other unfinished fan fiction authors???
and for that you should go straight to court
I'm guessing you haven't published it/made money off it?
"If I have seen further than others, it is because I stood on the shoulders of giants" - TomSka
-just now
Prior to his plagiarism video, I had basically no idea who Hbomberguy was. Now, I'm realizing he's been in videos I've watched repeatedly.
He’s in a few Tomska sketches!
Hbomberguy makes fantastic videos, when he's not talking about video games. He has rather absolutist and self gratifying viewpoints for them, basically telling that he's right and you're wrong if you like a game that he doesn't like.
And I'm not saying that he's wrong about the things he says when it comes to video games, in fact he makes plenty of really good points for them, it's only when he has decided that he doesn't like something about a game that he is unable to see that someone else might actually like that very same aspect of the game for very different reasons than how he sees them.
His videos on modern day problems are some of my favorite videos on youtube, but he is also very strongly opinionated person who probably would have hard time finding a middle ground in an argument if it goes against his own views. But he does certainly make some of the most entertaining content on this platform and puts a ton of effort behind it.
James (not Somerton) made me laugh.
Dude seems nice with a decent sense of humour.
Suddenly being dumped in the middle of a porno like that must've been crazy.
I'm an author and I found out that there's a country with lax copyright laws where a publisher just straight up stole all my books and sell them without permission. They have a website with my face on and everything! I get messages from kids saying how my books are bestsellers there and I'm just like 😅😃😭
Yeah, I just looked into it and your story genuinely checks out. At least you're being credited, I guess?
@@AbandonedVoid She's being credited, but... she's not being paid. She's not seeing any of the revenue she rightfully should receive. Getting credit isn't enough in a case like publishing works.
Yo that's gotta be super complicated cuz at the same time I'd be flattered and pissed
That's wild 😭
(Also...I checked out your books and I'm adding them to my TBR! I'm super excited to read them soon!)
I would say fuck publishing art and keep everything to myself 🫠
While reading "Robin", the biography of Robin Williams by David Itzkoff, there's a chapter where Itzkoff talks about the time in Williams's career when he started to rise to fame for his stand up comedy. In that chapter, Itzkoff describes that for a while other comedians would accuse Williams for stealing their jokes and Williams would pay them attributes while apologizing relentlessly. It has gone so bad that some comedians would literally try to shake up Williams and his friends had to talk to him to stand up for himself. It's a wild chapter that I feel fits the subject in this video with plenty of similar fears and struggles you mentioned and talked about.
Also, that Israeli agency 100% played you. Israel's mainstream copywriting agencies are (for the most part) notoriously lazy and are known for ripping off artists that they think are obscure enough for the general public. Sincerely, someone who's very tired of living in this country.
I mean, on the list of "shit Israel does" it's pretty low down, but still. Not cool.
Israel taking things that aren't theirs? Shock horror!
"Don't steal my video idea"
"I'm gonna steal that video idea"
Four freaking lines in and I've laughed this is gonna be good
I had a really unfortunate case of parallel thinking during my bachelor thesis.
It was literally the last day before the deadline that i discovered my topic had been talked about by someone else previously, with the same conclusion and i had to awkwardly work that in somehow because it was obviously too late to change anything major.
I love how you’re still not actually saying the “Juice that makes your head explode” out loud and just insert the sound bite for it XD, it’s the skit that keeps on giving
30:09 is so damn brutal Tom, lol. Holy shit. I'm so glad I follow you as someone with enough integrity to A) own their mistakes and B) post their cringe moments. Goddamn.
Cryptomnesia is a very real thing and such a bitch as someone that writes music. A few months ago, I was going through major writer's block for the album I was working on. Then I was struck with what I thought was a really cool, original riff. I immediately started writing a song around it, and even got as far as soloing over it before I realized that I had subconsciously ripped off Blood and Thunder by Mastodon. I was devastated and I had to scrap pretty much the whole song lol.
I had this when I used to write songs as a teenager. I'd accidentally lift riffs or have similar sung bars without even knowing it really.
Thankfully I never released any of them but still it does make me paranoid that I've done it in other places.
Thing is, wether it is intentional or not, it is still copying.
So imo, it doesn't matter.
If you saw something you liked and incorporated it into your work, then that's just spreading positive things.
If everyone was that worried about plagiarism, culture itself would stop existing.
The manufactured controversy regarding the UK Dominos ad sounds, to me, like one person said it was racist purely as a joke, another person saw it and thought they were being serious and commented somewhere else that they thought it was racist too, a third person saw this and intuited that the consensus was that these ads were racist and some news outlet took it as a concentrated group of people were making unfair criticisms about Dominos because it made for an interesting story.
As I'm to understand it, this is how tabloid news has always worked.
I feel like "Variation on a theme" needs to be reintroduced into the public vernacular.
EDIT: As does "great minds think alike."
In Croatia it's heavily used
@@burrgrguy9777 sadly croatia isnt a real place tho ):
@@videojuegos9379**serious sam backpedals into nonexistence**
@@videojuegos9379 are you serbian
my classical musician ears spiked reading that comment
I like how Hbomb’s video practically revolutionised the entire internet way of dealing with plagiarism.
(Alright, alright maybe revolution is not the word but come on you know what i meant!)
Publicly carpet bombing a bunch of channels reputations with evidence to support it tends to do that, lol
Ehh… I don’t think it revolutionized anything. Back in 2015, Matthew Santoro was caught plagiarizing in a ton of his top 10/50 videos. He got millions of subs before getting caught.
This recent situation was much the same, just different genres. We’ll see such plagiarism happen again, but let’s hope they get caught before they hit millions.
@@thomasparsons9866 The unfortunate part being that they may have to hit millions to get caught.
@@thomasparsons9866 I remember that! Although, this time around it does feel much bigger than it did back then. Maybe it's just because more of the channels I watch now are talking about it than back then
It just seems like it's a new thing to start drama over.
"If you want to be trully original, you must first create the universe" -me, just now, entirely my original quote
26:40 Man, that sounds like the weirdest situation to be in - and good for you man, it sounds like that really helped you going forward.
It sounds couterintuitive, but never forget to multiply the amount for "one episode" with the number of episodes they intend to do ! All those episodes they do themselves with their team and your idea are as much episodes that they don't contract you to do, after all. 300€ * 100 episodes = 30000€, which is closer to what they offered than to what you wanted. You actually did them a solid by accepting so little money! :D
@@user-ph3ji8gp3p Pretty sure he could of asked for royalties, percentage income or a flat fee per episode would of been perfectly reasonable.
TomSka having to live with making THAT joke in his introduction to THAT particular sketch infront of THOSE people... the bravery in this man to keep waking up every morning. He deserves 100 X more than what he got from Canal+, I say.
Worst plagiarism I ever did was a few years ago. I was schmoozing with the boss over at my place, and I was pulling out all the stops trying to put on a really impressive spread. Must have spent like $100+ on a pork roast and all the trimmings. I was in the kitchen for ages prepping everything but managed to get the roast in the oven in what I thought was plenty of time. Anyways just my luck my boss shows up early! Really puts me off kilter, he makes some snarky remark about my place being hard to find, like buddy google is your friend, anyways - when I got back into the kitchen you guessed it, I'd totally messed up, there was smoke coming out of the oven and the roast was burnt to a crisp. I was fully panicking when an idea hit me: I make up some excuse to stall him in the sitting room and climb out through the window to go to the burger joint across the street. I pick up a half dozen hamburgers and lay them out on a platter all fancy like it's something I've made. Tell him it's an old family hamburger recipe. Dumbass didn't suspect a thing! But I still feel bad about it to this day, someone at the burger company worked really hard on that recipe and I just took it and pretended it was mine. I'd like to think I'm mature enough now that I wouldn't do something that disrespectful again, but I should still probably call that burger place to apologise really, they don't deserve that kind of shabby treatment.
do you live in a sitcom?
I'm sure given enough effort you could steam that ham flawlessly :P
Delightfully devilish shm1wt
Seymour?
nice
Wow, that surfshark vpn ad was so incredibly persuasive, tom is a genius for coming up with such a clever skit format.