New Gossip Girl Hates Old Gossip Girl - Guilty Pleasures Ep. 23

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  • @sadicalradness6927
    @sadicalradness6927 2 года назад +588

    I'm just saying, the original gossip girl starts with serena coming back to the city after having disappeared for months after SLEEPING WITH HER BEST FRIEND'S BOYFRIEND AT A WEDDING! The new one's drama is the 'lead' is pretending to hate her half-sister but they're actually friends but oh no what if people find out my sister and I don't hate each other?? WHERE IS THE FLAVOUR??? THE SPICE??? THE DRAMA???

    • @jenniferariesta6635
      @jenniferariesta6635 2 года назад +29

      In the past bestie.
      This is reanimating a dead show so tailored to its time, it ain’t gonna work.

    • @keayannadavis9836
      @keayannadavis9836 2 года назад +2

      EXACTLYYYYYY

    • @JKLoans
      @JKLoans 2 года назад +8

      It makes no sense, honestly. Which is why I refuse to watch.

    • @Missmagazinebura
      @Missmagazinebura 2 года назад +4

      The mom may not be dead

    • @fadyalhachem
      @fadyalhachem 2 года назад +1

      Exactly girl !! This sis feud got tired but still shouldn't compare with the og

  • @alexranner
    @alexranner 2 года назад +456

    "I don't need my gossip girl to be woke." Tell it louder for the people in the writers room!

    • @queenrashell
      @queenrashell 2 года назад +5

      absafuckinglutly!!! its annoying

    • @gstaadglitter
      @gstaadglitter 2 года назад

      What do you mean by woke? Just curious

    • @0104brit
      @0104brit 2 года назад +4

      💯 I'm here for the drama, great one-liners, fashion and new york locations that I hope to visit one day 🤣. I'm interested in the kids, I think they have potential BUT I don't like the teachers

    • @bellereinette2938
      @bellereinette2938 2 года назад +4

      YESS I watch the reboot and I think I like it I think it's good it's okay but OG Gossip Girl is FAR SUPERIOR like the fashion, the locations it was actually shot in New York, it was just rich kids being MESSY AS HELL and doing dumb AND illegal shit (like drinking at bars and nightclubs and no one saying anything just because their rich) AND THE DRAMA WAS JUST ON ANOTHER LEVEL!!

    • @PrettyGuardian
      @PrettyGuardian Год назад +1

      @@gstaadglitter It isn't toxic enough.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +311

    Sequoia saying “I love a little toxic masculinity.” had me WHEEZING!

  • @irem8513
    @irem8513 2 года назад +158

    The thing about the original GG was how fresh and one-of-a-kind it was in the teen drama sphere. It was right before the rise of social media, so a gossip blog dedicated to teenagers was interesting and exciting. It was way more scandalous than any other teen show in terms of sex, drinks, drugs, illegal shit - and it owned up to it, when the bad reception of the first season came out they used it as advertising for the second season. It was also a show in New York that was actually shot in New York, not in a set in Toronto. That show lived in New York, every single building, hotel, monument was real and unreachable and a part of the story rather than just a background. The fashion was absolutely crazy (and it still holds up today) and as the seasons went along the fashion itself also became a character rather than just a plot setting. It was also at a time where fashion and celebrities were unreachable, not like today where you can see anyone on Instagram or see any luxury brand collection the second they drop, so having people like Lady Gaga and Florence + The Machine actually perform in the show and showcasing the fashion of its time and these big-name designers was crazy, it was an event. And I would argue that in the first 2-3 seasons, most of the narrative felt organic (as organic as a plot like this can be), as you mentioned the plot was so seamless in introducing the world and the characters. And it also did not have any qualms about being socially conscious, it was about a bunch of rich kids who loved being rich kids and none of the commentaries about generational wealth was preachy - it only stated the reality of a capital hierarchical society. I don't think the new GG can be any of these, or be as effective in any of these, as GG was a product of its time.

    • @Sam-gw9ut
      @Sam-gw9ut 2 года назад +5

      You put it so well!!! This is what I exactly felt.

    • @irem8513
      @irem8513 2 года назад +1

      @Avondale KA greatly put. honestly, there should be more video essays on original GG and its themes and approach to class, generational wealth, aristocracy, power dynamics etc. We talk a lot about how it was bad or problematic as a teen romance drama but as a product of a very different time in terms of what people saw as wealthy (and how much of it was presented to us to see unlike today's flex culture) there is a lot to explore about it, I think.

  • @atomkath
    @atomkath 2 года назад +234

    Just Miles cackling in the background every two seconds **chef’s kiss**

  • @TheFerParra
    @TheFerParra 2 года назад +249

    The teachers being 25, I mean I’m 26 I get it, I’m scared of 15 year old girls but there is NO WAY people my age would think something as pathetic as bringing back from the grave an old blog. I feel old being portrayed like that, we definitely don’t have the energy to be spying on teens.

    • @laurenk3459
      @laurenk3459 2 года назад +12

      Right? What teach has time for that? And, kinda creepy...Lol

    • @me9981
      @me9981 2 года назад +11

      I know,right? I like some parts of the reboot but I hate who new Gossip Girl is now lmao. It's so dumb. I'm 31 and I have friends ages 25 to my age who are teachers and my god they would never do something like that. Wtf? First of all it's so creepy + they don't have time and energy for that lmao

    • @melgibson182
      @melgibson182 2 года назад +2

      I which they keep gg as anonymous but start by let us think it teacher something like that I like the mystery in original until it reveals

    • @dynaa4168
      @dynaa4168 2 года назад

      @@me9981 it's not meant to be liked. It's a plot, it wasn't portrayed as a positive thing. Same thing as showing murder in films , tht doesn't mean the movie thinks it's right

    • @Missmagazinebura
      @Missmagazinebura 2 года назад +1

      @@melgibson182 I want gossip girl to be stolen from the teachers

  • @angelg3513
    @angelg3513 2 года назад +288

    To this day… i wanted gossip girl to be DOROTA!!!

    • @NSAB120
      @NSAB120 2 года назад +1

      Totally!

    • @KelseyDarragh
      @KelseyDarragh 2 года назад +9

      This is the truth I believe

    • @Femchan
      @Femchan 2 года назад +2

      The real MVP!

    • @1sTEfFaniE1
      @1sTEfFaniE1 2 года назад +8

      @@KelseyDarragh yeah Dan is not GG in my world, the last episode was all just a fever dream.

    • @Ivanchy91
      @Ivanchy91 2 года назад

      EVEYRONE DID

  • @Wincingatwindmills
    @Wincingatwindmills 2 года назад +176

    Sequoia’s lil notebook🥺 protect this wonderful woman at all costs and stream Black People love Paramore

  • @alexare7948
    @alexare7948 2 года назад +104

    Can we talk about how Chace Crawford in season 1 is literally the most beautiful boy in the world to ever exist ever

    • @Ella-fv4hm
      @Ella-fv4hm 2 года назад +6

      Only in season 1?? Bruh

    • @alexare7948
      @alexare7948 2 года назад +2

      @@Ella-fv4hm lmao he was especially good looking in season 1 longer hair suits him better

    • @alexare7948
      @alexare7948 2 года назад +2

      @@Ella-fv4hm and I am a guy lmao ;)

    • @Ella-fv4hm
      @Ella-fv4hm 2 года назад +2

      @@alexare7948 oops I’m so sorry I’m so used to saying girl or girly to my friends 😂. But idk man I think he looks so hot either way. And him in The Boys is just 😩😩. I hate his character but he’s so good looking

    • @user-ji9if5gh2p
      @user-ji9if5gh2p 2 года назад +2

      this phrasing “the most beautiful boy” is so funny to me i’m sorry

  • @TheFerParra
    @TheFerParra 2 года назад +69

    WE 👏🏻 DON’T 👏🏻 NEED 👏🏻 GOSSIP 👏🏻 GIRL 👏🏻 TO 👏🏻 BE 👏🏻 WOKE 👏🏻
    Say it louder ZACH!!

  • @alexiswatts649
    @alexiswatts649 2 года назад +71

    In episode two I was cackling when zoya was saying her teacher lets them act out the books they're reading and she said they were reading "things fall apart"... as a black person, i would have an aneurysm if my teacher told me i needed to act out the traumatic events in that book in front of my white classmates for a grade. i don't think there was enough black representation in the room when writing that line

    • @keayannadavis9836
      @keayannadavis9836 2 года назад +5

      thank you! i thought i was the only one who thought this!

    • @taneziamcadams7500
      @taneziamcadams7500 2 года назад +7

      I thought that was a weird line too and I guessed they wanted to look woke for even knowing what that book is.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +151

    Sequoia has my respect for having a notebook on the topic.

  • @HeReads
    @HeReads 2 года назад +33

    “I watched it three times and I still don’t know their fucking names!!!”🤣 exactly! We’re 3 episodes in and I’m like who tf is Julien???c

  • @leire9444
    @leire9444 2 года назад +171

    I am disturbed about the teachers being gg too. I hope eventually they get hacked and one of the teens take over or sth. I mean the og gg changed hands a few times right?

    • @miriamquezada1553
      @miriamquezada1553 2 года назад +37

      I think that’s my main gripe too, why is an adult involved in children’s business to the point of “shaming” them for the mistakes of their youth. Like the power imbalance is concerning

    • @ashl2115
      @ashl2115 2 года назад +13

      My bet (and hope) is that they lose control of GG quite quickly.

  • @AnaMendoza-qp8vk
    @AnaMendoza-qp8vk 2 года назад +46

    I know I'm late, but I just wanted to point out something else about the casting, the actress who plays one of the minions (Luna) Zion Moreno is actually a Mexican-American trans woman. I don't know if they will incorporate that into the show, but I think is cool that it has such a diverse cast.

  • @FlagCutie
    @FlagCutie 2 года назад +183

    Not five minutes in and I already love Sequoia!
    I liked Gossip Girl so much that the only reason I started Bridgerton was because it was described Regency Era Gossip Girl.

    • @KelseyDarragh
      @KelseyDarragh 2 года назад +9

      If you love sequoia you’ll love her podcast!!!

    • @SequoiaHolmes7
      @SequoiaHolmes7 2 года назад +7

      Thank you!! 🥰

    • @SequoiaHolmes7
      @SequoiaHolmes7 2 года назад +4

      @@KelseyDarragh 🥺🥺

    • @laurenk3459
      @laurenk3459 2 года назад +1

      Same, lol

    • @flowershop2935
      @flowershop2935 2 года назад

      Bridgerton depiction of r#p# was out of line and for what??!! One wanted a baby and the other one didn’t so they compromised and had a baby.

  • @NSAB120
    @NSAB120 2 года назад +75

    I’m calling it now. It will be revealed that dead mom still alive in a season finale. Mark my word.

    • @savag3ry
      @savag3ry 2 года назад +14

      I said this as soon as the show started. I’m like she’s not dead she’s off living her life somewhere. She’ll be back for sure

    • @Missmagazinebura
      @Missmagazinebura 2 года назад +5

      Like chucks mom

    • @vickiminervino4646
      @vickiminervino4646 2 года назад

      but she...died giving birth - the doctors and nurses in a small town would've said some shit

  • @182atenasb
    @182atenasb 2 года назад +47

    I don’t like the teachers being gossip girl because they’re playing “being good” “ being righteous” while acting horribly. They’re not the good guys but we are supposed to relate to them and root for them ? Also the mystery was a major point in the original now it’s not there.

    • @SuperChivasLover
      @SuperChivasLover 2 года назад +9

      I think they are supposed to be the villains.

    • @jcam5064
      @jcam5064 2 года назад +6

      That sounds like a solid majority of actual real life teachers. Just pretending to be righteous while they’re far from it.

    • @182atenasb
      @182atenasb 2 года назад +3

      @kibblewibble yes as the season went on people focus more on other characters but at least in the first season it was a big deal.

    • @dynaa4168
      @dynaa4168 2 года назад

      We aren't supposed to root for them?? Why do you think tht

    • @lithiumkid
      @lithiumkid 2 года назад

      @@182atenasb they only actively tried to figure it out for like 6 episodes total.

  • @hilarygladstone6037
    @hilarygladstone6037 2 года назад +53

    I wanted to BE Blair Waldorf 😭 Without the mean of course.
    Fun fact: as a teen when the show was running, every Monday I’d get in trouble with my mom because after watching the show, I felt so sassy. I was too embarrassed to tell her why I felt so sassy so I just took it.
    We watched it together last summer. I finally explained and we laughed.

    • @lotus-qg1px
      @lotus-qg1px Год назад +1

      Blair is not Blair without being mean

  • @doomcat537
    @doomcat537 2 года назад +86

    Sequoia is fantastic! Bring her back!

  • @claudia.e
    @claudia.e 2 года назад +45

    I jumped from "I'll give this show a try" to "I won't even bother" like 5 times during this podcast.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +142

    Penn Badgley and Chace Crawford. That’s it. That’s the comment.

    • @seannanana84
      @seannanana84 2 года назад +6

      And that is plenty

    • @alexare7948
      @alexare7948 2 года назад +3

      Chace in season 1 was literally the most beautiful boy I have ever seen. Still to this day.

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +1

      @@alexare7948 I agree.

    • @janhavi1977
      @janhavi1977 2 года назад +1

      I love Nate and Dan's friendship!

  • @Anna-B
    @Anna-B 2 года назад +115

    I LOVE Gossip Girl! But let’s be real, Dan wasn’t GG

    • @cassiehauschildt8257
      @cassiehauschildt8257 2 года назад +22

      Season 1 Dan was so shook by GG so many times.

    • @ldragon8480
      @ldragon8480 2 года назад +13

      It was supposed to be someone else but I think the fans guessed so they changed it

    • @Anna-B
      @Anna-B 2 года назад +7

      @@ldragon8480 I think you’re right. I would rather not know than it not make sense though

    • @Dreacakes
      @Dreacakes 2 года назад +1

      Exactlyyyy

    • @seannanana84
      @seannanana84 2 года назад +9

      I still like to pretend it was Dorota. Dan was out and about too many when a GG alert went out

  • @adyaarora862
    @adyaarora862 2 года назад +55

    Dude this podcast was made for riverdale. Don’t just watch the first episode. Watch the first one and the season 3 ending. Without context. THAT WILL BE A PODCAST.

  • @lanemac
    @lanemac 2 года назад +26

    i do not want my gossip girl to be socially conscious - give me RICH TRASH

  • @-KirthanaR
    @-KirthanaR 2 года назад +105

    THE OG GOSSIP GIRL IS MY LITERAL DEFINITION OF A GUILTY PLEASURE SHOW. I love messy rich people doing dumb shit lol. Wanted to punch literally everyone through the screen by the time the show finished...except Dorota

    • @FlagCutie
      @FlagCutie 2 года назад +7

      OMG you just perfectly described my relationship to the show lol

    • @NSAB120
      @NSAB120 2 года назад +2

      OGGG is *so* good. It was so funny and pretty. The new one is a tad darker and moodier. But still gorgeous

    • @taptaptaps
      @taptaptaps 2 года назад +2

      SAME!! 😂

    • @seannanana84
      @seannanana84 2 года назад +3

      I've rewatched it more times than I want to admit and started it again before the reboot dropped. I love it. It's messy and full of gorgeous people, good music, and just such ridiculous plots and I live for it.

  • @ericanicole1859
    @ericanicole1859 2 года назад +45

    Why is sequoia so fucking pretty??!

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +33

    “B***h I have the headbands.” - Kelsey Darragh, 2021.
    Kelsey could be a substitute for Kristen Bell.

  • @lorenaoliveira9389
    @lorenaoliveira9389 2 года назад +226

    Kelsey, the actress that plays Luna is trans so we do have a trans girlie 🤩

    • @KelseyDarragh
      @KelseyDarragh 2 года назад +42

      OMG I DIDNT KNOW THIS!!! THRILLED!!!

    • @missmo2371
      @missmo2371 2 года назад +8

      She was in a show called Control Z before GG..

    • @calialockey8780
      @calialockey8780 2 года назад +9

      Her name is Zión Moreno!

    • @ashleyfernandez443
      @ashleyfernandez443 2 года назад +2

      Yesss I was going to put the same thing! Love her

    • @pitpat2928
      @pitpat2928 2 года назад

      i love to hear it but its kinda scary bc if they make her identity part of her character arc i could only imagine it coming off very Blaire White parallel, like there would be so much passing politics. it should just be sprinkled in there like max being pan

  • @leenbean14
    @leenbean14 2 года назад +25

    Only about 25 minutes in, by the actress that plays Jenny, when she goes through her goth phase, has a band, The Pretty Reckless. It's very fun and vibing for all of us 00's emo kids.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +36

    Rufus was quite the DILF. I love his mind and his rants.

    • @seannanana84
      @seannanana84 2 года назад +5

      I loved him until they had to throw in all the drama with him and Lilly with her fake cancer and ex husband crap. Rufus deserved better

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +1

      @@seannanana84 Agreed.

  • @182atenasb
    @182atenasb 2 года назад +24

    I’m sorry no I don’t want to sexualize teenagers. My god, people need to get out of high school and do stupid dramatic shows with adults being adults.

  • @findparadise
    @findparadise 2 года назад +10

    PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DO THE OC!!! I'm rewatching it again rn, that shit came out when I was a teen and it SLAPS

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +78

    I hope Kelsey is feeling better. Props to her conducting a podcast with an Ice Pack.

  • @marcusberryy
    @marcusberryy 2 года назад +8

    I have never screamed so loud while driving in my life. I literally had to pull over and comment. KELSEY YOU CARRIED. I was glued every single week to the original too girl. This episode is so much fun. & I’m only 15 minutes in.
    *me in my car*
    “YES KELSEY”
    “SAME KELSEY”
    “FUCK YEAH IT WAS”
    “ICONICCCCCC”

  • @Kurooganeko
    @Kurooganeko 2 года назад +7

    "I don't need my Gossip Girl to be woke" RIGHT WAY OF WATCHING THIS SHOW! Like, come on you know this, you know what it is, we've been here before. If you don't like/want it, don't watch it! Zoomers, give me a break!

  • @saikogrrl
    @saikogrrl 2 года назад +8

    I honestly would not have even noticed the ice pack under beanie if you hadn't mentioned it, I just thought it was a baggy beanie 😂

  • @lorenaoliveira9389
    @lorenaoliveira9389 2 года назад +24

    Loved Sequoia! Bring her back in other episodes

  • @themisadventuresofelle9692
    @themisadventuresofelle9692 2 года назад +9

    Upopular Opinion: They are lacking in the fashion so far... I WANT A LOOOOOK!! I want something unattainable, I want real luxury! All they're giving me is a better version of Vanessa's wardrobe.

    • @erikperhs_
      @erikperhs_ 2 года назад +6

      SAME!! Nate was always in a suit, Blair was always in head to toe Chanel, Serena came right out of a runway show... The new characters still use super expensive clothes, but it all looks cheap anyway

    • @lotus-qg1px
      @lotus-qg1px Год назад

      old gossip girl fashion -wardrobe is unmatched

  • @catherineb196
    @catherineb196 2 года назад +8

    Literally was identified multiple times as “the girl with all the headbands” my first few weeks of college, and I LOVED it.
    Who first told me about this reboot? A professor from my senior year who still calls me “Headband Girl” to this day.

  • @teejayyylmao
    @teejayyylmao 2 года назад +5

    I’m born in 97 and I’m a high school teacher… don’t come for me zach

  • @drewjohnston4309
    @drewjohnston4309 2 года назад +6

    Sequoia was a great addition to the cast. I hope to see more of her.

  • @Mike90317
    @Mike90317 2 года назад +39

    The reboot should be with college people instead.

  • @maritzay0322
    @maritzay0322 2 года назад +20

    Am I the only one who thinks the acting on the teachers side is so much cheasier than the students? Like I really enjoy the main characters and actors presence but the teachers just seem a little over the top? I wonder if this was a choice?

    • @TheFerParra
      @TheFerParra 2 года назад +7

      Yes! They remind me of Glee teachers tbh

    • @maritzay0322
      @maritzay0322 2 года назад +1

      @@TheFerParra Omg. As someone who is guilty of watching glee back in the day. I agree. Their tone just didn't fit the tone of the students

    • @pitpat2928
      @pitpat2928 2 года назад

      the teachers storyline is like a whole separate show! like this isnt what im watching for. Kate gets some major screentime and the actress is wonderful, but i skipped all of her scenes towards the end and it didnt impact my enjoyment or the plot in the Slightest.

  • @gurneetsidhu1999
    @gurneetsidhu1999 2 года назад +5

    I really want a cut of this podcast with just Miles reaction to what the trio was talking about. His laughter in the background was infectious! I love!!!!!!! 💕 Also can we get a weekly Gossip Girl podcast with these guys? I wanna hear their crackpot theories and opinions for every episode!

  • @MadiRage
    @MadiRage 2 года назад +9

    WHEN THE PUBLICLY BURNED THE HEADBAND!!! That’s when I knew that the writers hated the OG GG

    • @SuperChivasLover
      @SuperChivasLover 2 года назад +3

      It's the same producers and show creators.

  • @JennaLoomar
    @JennaLoomar 2 года назад +8

    This is exactly why I don’t wanna watch the reboot. It’s more fun to see rich people be idiots and be unaware of it

  • @elleclaire
    @elleclaire 2 года назад +7

    I love Sequoia omg she should be in every episode!! She would bring in more views for sure

  • @queefbeef69
    @queefbeef69 2 года назад +58

    the og is so much better than the reboot but the books are SOOO much better than both. shaved head vanessa and bisexual king chuck bass!!

    • @doomcat537
      @doomcat537 2 года назад +5

      The books were the ULTIMATE guilty pleasure. They got so off the storyline in the show, though I liked it as its own separate thing.

    • @ZeinaIan
      @ZeinaIan 2 года назад +4

      I wish they'd made a show version of The It Girl series instead, at least it wouldn't have just been a straight up reboot then.

    • @me9981
      @me9981 2 года назад +8

      I'm sorry, but how do you know original is better when there are only 2 episodes out lmao
      I know original is iconic and I LOVE IT, but I don't understand people saying they don't like it when there are only 2 episodes out...like what...I don't get it...

    • @hilarygladstone6037
      @hilarygladstone6037 2 года назад +3

      Non-punk Vanessa just got lost on the show imo.

    • @itskaraelizabeth
      @itskaraelizabeth 2 года назад

      BOOKS?! Why did i think there were just one?!

  • @FramesPerSecond
    @FramesPerSecond 2 года назад +6

    Kelsey’s here looking like a Q-Tip👂
    Never seen either Gossip Girl but this was a fun listen.

  • @EvWuzhere
    @EvWuzhere 2 года назад +9

    I actually loved the way social media was used in the original series, idk if it could really work now. Like at the time technology and social media still felt new, im pretty sure when the first season came out facebook hadnt even really blown up in the mainstream yet. It was kind of about social media making you feel like an "it person" and like a celebrity in a way, even if it was from negative gossip, it seemed exciting. And now social media being shown in other media like tv shows just feels saturated, commentary about it feels saturated, and it doesnt hold this luster and sense of new world possibility that it did as a kid growing up way back in 2007. Not that that was the only appeal of the show, the relationships for the 1st few seasons of all the main characters felt very genuine, i really liked all the actors, and i just dont care for this new cast. And even as someone who personally dislikes new york, i loved the look of the original show, the snow, the elite aesthetics, the colorfulness. The new one just doesnt pop for me it just feels derivative idk

  • @b.a.shaski3550
    @b.a.shaski3550 2 года назад +7

    Veronica Mars is incredible. Thank you for shouting it out as the masterpiece that it is.

  • @laurenk3459
    @laurenk3459 2 года назад +5

    Lol, I loved gossip girl, it came out my freshman year of HS and I watched it everyday. I rewatched it during lockdowns last year. Now, as a teacher myself, the new one's reveal of who gossip girl was gonna be, and why, was hilarious and so mind boggling! First, what teacher has time for that?? Second, y'all are the adults here! Teachers in the original get entangled in some drama, but that was looked down on then, and it should be now! Lol

  • @maggierolseth2375
    @maggierolseth2375 2 года назад +3

    The most important thing to take away from this episode is that Zach & Sandra Bullock have the same birthday

  • @CherryBlossomXX93
    @CherryBlossomXX93 2 года назад +7

    Kelsey, I hope you're feeling better now. I can totally relate, as I have TMJ disorder, so my jaw is achey and painful allllll the time. Sending you my love ❤️
    PS - can we just address how fire Garrett's girlfriend is?!?! Lucky boy🔥🔥

  • @jbblue48089
    @jbblue48089 2 года назад +2

    I do wanna point out how much Zara has contributed to the unsustainability of fast fashion, green washes their recent attempts to bring in recycled materials (Hasan Minhaj did a prank pop-up shop and wrote a bit about it), and they’re not even trying to reduce their reliance on human sweatshops. So there’s that.

  • @novisna
    @novisna 2 года назад +9

    I don't know if the creators of the show have said nice, but I feel that Elite on Netflix was a big factor in bringing this back, I kinda feel that they could also go further with the representation of different sexualities because of Elite.

    • @bellereinette2938
      @bellereinette2938 2 года назад

      Even though I like the reboot I kind of prefer Elite over it like the Elite's first 2 seasons GOLD, & I did like the 3rd though I was screaming "WHERES MY GUZNADIA & CARMUEL" other than that I enjoyed it because it revolved more around Polo as it had too, 4th season I didn't love it but I didn't hate it either (BI QUEEN REBE!!!)

  • @SabrinaNicolette
    @SabrinaNicolette 2 года назад +3

    gotta say i love hearing miles laugh in the background every now and then

  • @TheMegerz
    @TheMegerz 2 года назад +17

    the show so far feels like "okay, we're going to change and work on what was problematic within the original BUT we're gunna stick with still making the adult teachers creeps towards these kids" as seen with the creepy pictures, stalking and then in the second ep the teacher blatantly just waiting for the technicality of max not being his student to hook up with him

    • @erikperhs_
      @erikperhs_ 2 года назад

      Well, i understand, but lets not pretend that Max is an innocent boy who's being coerced into doing anything.

    • @TheMegerz
      @TheMegerz 2 года назад +4

      @@erikperhs_ while true, if your a teacher and your only waiting for graduation to have sex with them then that’s more than creepy since he’s a teen

    • @erikperhs_
      @erikperhs_ 2 года назад

      @@TheMegerz But isn't that what you're supposed to do? Like... *not* break the law and only hook up with someone after they're 18? I know it seems creepy, but at least he didn't do it while Max was still underage.
      At lest not in the pilot, but now he did :p

    • @lithiumkid
      @lithiumkid 2 года назад +2

      @@erikperhs_ you're not supposed to bang someone you once held that much authority over, especially if they are only a teenager and you were a full grown adult when you met them.

    • @erikperhs_
      @erikperhs_ 2 года назад

      @@lithiumkid That's your opinion. There's no law against it.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 2 года назад +4

    One of the teachers in the reboot had a luxury handbag. Very few teachers carry LV or a Birkin.

  • @danielmorris6804
    @danielmorris6804 2 года назад +4

    I wish y'all waited for the season to be done, but I'm here for it!

  • @EvWuzhere
    @EvWuzhere 2 года назад +9

    I felt so sad hearing that kelsey never got to fulfill her gossip girl new york fantasy- but at the same time isnt that kind of reflective of the whole theme of the original show? Dan aka lonelyboy (which apparently he nicknamed himself bc he was gossip girl *eyeroll*) looking in from the outside on this elite group of people that he secretly was fascinated with bc he kind of wanted to be a part of- and through that he actually does end up becoming a part of it. Like with the last shot of the last episode and there was dan and serena sitting with chuck and blaire i felt like there was this implied sentiment that you deserve to be a part of whatever you want to be but youre telling yourself that youre not. Kelsey, you are gossip girl.

  • @rheam3246
    @rheam3246 2 года назад +3

    i want them to do a follow up episode at the end of the season and debrief the entire season and classify it as guilty or pleasure

  • @amishprincess28
    @amishprincess28 2 года назад

    i fr listened to this whole thing and i have a bad attention span 😭😭 so many good points made lmao i don’t even know what to touch on! love y’all and i NEEEEEED more of y’all’s gossip girl reboot reviews

  • @forthetimebeing1
    @forthetimebeing1 2 года назад +14

    I watched Skins UK when i was in high school... totally not fucked up from that lmao

  • @thesnazzyjess
    @thesnazzyjess 2 года назад +2

    Taylor Momsen going from Cindy Lou Who to Jenny to The Pretty Reckless looks!!! Top notch look changes!!!

  • @rachelvictoria1355
    @rachelvictoria1355 2 года назад +6

    The actor that plays Luna is trans and the show runner has said Luna is trans as well but its just who she is its not a main focus of the show

  • @leechpeach337
    @leechpeach337 2 года назад +1

    Threatens to tear this sister-ship asunder!!

  • @jeromepaul4322
    @jeromepaul4322 2 года назад +2

    XoXo from the 🇵🇭. I love that you guys talk about GG like this. Love the OG and trying to love the reboot .

  • @rodneygantt5585
    @rodneygantt5585 2 года назад +8

    I've spent all morning watching this series; as a huge fan of the original I wanted to give it a chance and now I have thoughts. I'm just gonna say this right off the bat, this show (so far) doesn't hold a candle to the original, no shade just my honest opinion. The biggest problem with this reboot (aside from being a reboot nobody asked for) is the reintroduction of Gossip Girl. One of the best aspects of the original series was the existence and the mystery around who Gossip Girl was. When we were first introduced to GG it was just this entity that was already established and cemented as a thorn in the side (if you will) of Manhattan's elite. By presenting GG as this already existing "character" shrouded in mystery, IMO it added excitement an intrigue as to who GG was, what she knew, how she knew it and ultimately what her motives were for doing all this; in addition we loved to see just how GG would screw with our favorite elitists. The series thrived on the mystery of GG and the sort of checks and balances system she provided, sending the message that money, power and influence has its limits and always comes at a cost. On the other hand reintroducing GG as just a group of disgruntled teachers upset and abused by their over privileged students just feels cheap. It not only takes all the mystery and excitement out of GG it makes their motives seems selfish and their actions creepy and cruel. As a result the teachers feel like the villans and by extension GG itself and makes you sympathetic to the students much more than you should or would ever want too. Where GG in the original felt somewhat necessary in the new series it just feels WRONG. I understand the reboot sought to go in a different direction and IMO was forced to because of the mistake made by the original series. The reveal that Dan was Gossip Girl was IMO the biggest mistake EVER, it not only destroyed the key element of mystery in the original but ruined any chance of good reboot. That being said the one aspect of Gossip Girl's reintroduction that was good was it's evolution. Where the original GG was centered on one person, making it feel a bit unrealistic, the expansion of Gossip Girl to be this network with everything essentially contributing was GENIUS. It was an idea that while hinted at in the original it was made real in this new series making it more realistic and current and reflective of the times.
    My other major issue with this series are the characters; simply put most of the characters are boring with a few minor exceptions but ultimately none of them help sell the series as what it's meant to be; they pale in comparison to the OG characters and fail to present themselves as true Manhattan elitists. Of course the new characters shouldn't just be carbon copies of the originals (although the show definitely tried it) a good reboot should at least capture the essence and feel of the original and this series just doesn't. Everything in this series just feels too relatable and way too high school and not at all like rich kids dealing with rich kid problems. As a 16 year old junior in high school watching the original series, while I was able to relate to the characters as being high schoolers that's where the similarities ended. From the first episode the show established Blair, Serena and the rest of the gang as "not your ordinary teenagers." With the exception of Dan the "Every Man" these kids were the sons and daughters of captains of industry and business moguls and hedge funders etc and they knew it and more importantly they acted like it. School was just an after thought, a minor inconvenience in the way of their busy lives of family obligations, pressures and socialite life. In the original series because most of the episodes centered around a party or event you were constantly reminded that this was a whole other world and as the viewer and because of Gossip Girl you were allowed a glimpse into that world, and that was the point.The new series in comparison focuses so much on school and the Every Man perspect that you kinda yawn and forget it's supposed to be a show about the rich kids; as a result it feels less like a new direction and more like a poor imitation of what it claims to be.
    All that being said the only Characters I kind of like in this show are Max, Aki, Julien and as of the most recent episode, Obie (though less so than the first three). While yes they have their own issues in terms of character development, they are characters with potential and generate just enough interest around them (IMO) that I want to know more about them and see their growth. The rest of them are a complete wash and yes that includes Zoya "the Every Girl."
    The true tragedy of this show is that if it was called anything else it would be a really good show but because it burdened itself with the title of such a beloved series like Gossip Girl it unfortunately will never live up to the original and people's expectations. Despite this little rant I will continue to watch as it isn't the worst thing to watch and I do think it can get better, here hoping....XOXO, GOSSIP GIRL!

  • @destinymormance181
    @destinymormance181 2 года назад +7

    Can we please point out how dang BEAUTIFUL Sequoia is!!😍 Also I really hope your head feels better soon Kelsey❤

  • @nadiaa2717
    @nadiaa2717 Год назад

    Love how yall watched the first episode, formed opinions, and we never heard about it again 😭

  • @RK-cj3zj
    @RK-cj3zj 2 года назад +1

    Ok, how do we get in this O Tripple G, group chat!! I need people to discuss this with!!

  • @ZeinaIan
    @ZeinaIan 2 года назад +83

    Serena does lose her good girl persona I honestly think she was worse than Blair and she was my most disliked character which is saying something cause nearly everyone in Gossip Girl is a terrible person.
    On another note I personally don't like the over sexualisation of teen media, most teens aren't having a bunch of crazy sex (you're an outlier Kelsey) All these teen characters like in Elite, Euphoria and now the New Gossip Girl are highly sexualised and I think it's gross to only display minors this way, even if they are played by adults cause the characters are still teens.
    I am a grey asexual so I may be in the minority with this opinion. But I also don't like constantly having to be subjected to high amounts of sex in everything that is out there for me to watch.

    • @MeKsTeR330
      @MeKsTeR330 2 года назад +5

      It could possibly be a generational thing too, like teen media back in the 00's was crazy hyper-sexed and put soooo much pressure on losing your virginity before 18 or you were deemed a loser from what I have seen. I think I remember reading somewhere a few years ago that in general gen z is having less sex than the older generations were having at their age (this is when the oldest were just hitting 20) and like I think we just feel the pressure to 'get it over with' less? As well as growing up with media that showed how quickly it could backfire esp for teen girls bc of slut-shaming and teen pregnancy? Maybe it was bc I went to a smaller school where rumors and gossip spread quickly that people weren't messing around so much lmao.

    • @cooki3monstrrr
      @cooki3monstrrr 2 года назад +11

      I agree. I think the oversexualization of teen characters in media is something that'll be looked back on in a negative light. The majority of these shows & movies could be aged up to college & would make more sense. (Like Riverdale or Pretty Little Liars)

    • @teesha_.
      @teesha_. 2 года назад +16

      No as a 17 year old, I completely agree with you. Half the time I wonder when these bitches study? LIKE I haven't seen you study once and yet you maintain a 4.2 GPA??? HOW???

    • @niinban6057
      @niinban6057 2 года назад +2

      I literally don't watch most shows like this for a reason. Like how hard is it to just have a show with all the same elements that takes place in college? Like who's life experience is more interesting before graduation unless you peaked. And if it must be set in high school, why not hire actual teenagers. It's so gross

    • @lottam9972
      @lottam9972 2 года назад +2

      @@niinban6057 well if you hire actual teenagers then people won’t be comfortable seeing them over sexualized or having hookups with adults e.g teachers. Casting adults makes us forget that they are supposed to be teenagers :(

  • @earlgaytea
    @earlgaytea Год назад

    sequoia saying "her 15 year old is who i aspire to be now" was hilariously adorable

  • @MeKsTeR330
    @MeKsTeR330 2 года назад +10

    I love Sequoia's personality and she likes Dan so I stan even more :P

  • @jadazfoster
    @jadazfoster 2 года назад +1

    Sequoia is absolutely STUNNING

  • @glovefox
    @glovefox 2 года назад +2

    Omg this was so fun!! I was dying 😂
    Bet I'm gonna watch the first ep after this

  • @calvinmirandamoritz4507
    @calvinmirandamoritz4507 2 года назад +2

    i have to say when i watched the original, my country was still cool (France) so it was no big deal to be teens drinking in bars or buying cigarettes... first time i got carded for anything i was 19 and so flattered! gossip girl was perfect, at the perfect time for me

  • @cassiehauschildt8257
    @cassiehauschildt8257 2 года назад +29

    Can we talk about how one of the new kids looks like Chuck Bass's child or relative? And yes, I'm so fucking addicted to this show. The teachers running GG is just AMAZING

  • @alex1smay
    @alex1smay 2 года назад

    I truly adore this podcast!!

  • @micoelho7820
    @micoelho7820 2 года назад +1

    please part 2 now that gg pt.1 is finished

  • @ginacalitri8341
    @ginacalitri8341 2 года назад

    Sequoia is so beautiful 😩 omg Sequoia and Kelsey tho!!! I just can't! You both... you both are *chefs kiss*

  • @jasminecaldwell1173
    @jasminecaldwell1173 2 года назад +6

    First of all Sequoia is gorgeous!!

  • @andye856
    @andye856 2 года назад +13

    The original GG is and will always be superior

  • @Cledyston
    @Cledyston 2 года назад +1

    44:30 you can also see that Luna and the other chick don't vibe with Audrey. They totally check out when she speaks!

  • @pnkgrlxo05
    @pnkgrlxo05 2 года назад +2

    Funny you guys bring up the OC when talking about the music from the OGGG; since they had the same music supervisor, Alex Patsavas (i think for at least the first season...idk about the rest)

  • @taptaptaps
    @taptaptaps 2 года назад +7

    I totally agree with Kelsey. I was into Dan in the first few seasons but totally hated him after

  • @RiseWithRi
    @RiseWithRi 2 года назад +5

    PLEASE DO THE OC!!!

  • @adrianadarwisyah5644
    @adrianadarwisyah5644 2 года назад

    u guys gotta do an episode after watching the full "oggg" !

  • @antigua26
    @antigua26 2 года назад +2

    ya'll don't know THE Tavi Gevinson...

  • @carolynmchugh5679
    @carolynmchugh5679 2 года назад +5

    I need an update on what they think about the most recent episodes

    • @loonysweetheart400
      @loonysweetheart400 2 года назад +1

      100% I think last weeks episode was my last, it's simultaneously too much and not enough

    • @erikperhs_
      @erikperhs_ 2 года назад

      @@loonysweetheart400 I'm still watching it but I go "wtf?", "why?", "that's so stupid" and etc throughout the entire episodes lol
      I love Aki and Max and I wanna see where their stories go, that's the only reason I'm watching it.

  • @thebirdking3605
    @thebirdking3605 2 года назад

    Loved Sequoia!!!

  • @angelicacrook8243
    @angelicacrook8243 2 года назад +1

    I have been very hesitant to get HBOmax because 🙄 another streaming service BUT I love Gossip Girl and watching this episode has convinced me to finally get it 😅

  • @lavdoria510
    @lavdoria510 2 года назад +1

    first time watching this is so good

  • @chels05
    @chels05 2 года назад +2

    I would love to hear a podcast on Love Island UK! The most interesting season is season 2 & there’s also a season going on currently

  • @camilletourault1967
    @camilletourault1967 2 года назад +2

    My first instinct was Billy Joel and not Billie Eilish too😂 Embarassing

  • @waltz0153
    @waltz0153 2 года назад +1

    Do Zoolander. That movie is funny enough to be a pleasure, yet problematic enough to be a guilt. Perfect.

  • @Chaloves
    @Chaloves 2 года назад +3

    no matter how they advertise the new gossip girl still like the original. period.

  • @DC88_
    @DC88_ 2 года назад +3

    Could you guys maybe do a Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode? I recently rewatched the whole show, Love it .