Your Practice Is Making You Worse! The Swing Advice That’s Killing Your Game!
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025
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One of the most overlooked factors when it comes to discussing the golf swing is the subject of Swing Direction.
It's amazing that golfers think they can simply swing the club around them without any controlling pieces in place to make sure they stay “on track”. The golf swing needs to conform to a plane and that plane has boundaries that shouldn’t be breached. If you swing too far to the LEFT or too far to the RIGHT, your contact, power and direction will all be compromised.
But golfers are perpetually told to swing more and more to the RIGHT to swing more IN-to-OUT as if this is the holy grail. Unfortunately, most golf instructors completely misunderstand the difference between SWING DIRECTION and CLUB PATH, leading scores of golfers down a spiralling hole of fat shots, thin shots and a complete loss of directional control.
In fact, I've encountered coaches were actively moving their students towards extremely rightward swing directions (up to 20*) to right handed golfer to eliminate their slices. However, this type of extreme swing direction creates different problems, some of which are masked by the fact you’re hitting indoors from a mat, but become very apparent once our outside trying to hit from the grass.
The IN-to-OUT Club Path that is desirable DOESN’T come from swinging to the RIGHT. Instead, it comes from the fact we swing the club on a tiled angle (plane) and we hit the ball on the back side of the swing arc, while the club head is still moving DOWNWARDS and OUTWARDS, so the rightward Club Path is built into the swing at set-up.
Understand this and you can unlock an entirely different level of ball striking quality and consistency, as well as more directional control to your shots than you’ve ever experienced before.
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Thanks!
I have a suggestion for a video. Many folks using HACKMOTION complain that the P6 drill is impossible because the device says the arms are too high or too low. My sense is that they are trying achieve impact from P2. A recent search shows that there is not one single video demonstrating this drill on the internet. Cheers!
Thank you for the support! 🙏🏻
Thanks for the suggestion. Let me discuss with HM and take a look at filming something on this topic.
That’s totally me! Everything that you described here is in my swing. And it drove me absolutely crazy that I kept pushing the ball to a 1 o’clock spot (relative to the target), and also that the club tended to hit the ground/mat behind the ball. I have been all over the place with bad contact and thinning them like crazy on the golf course. In the past, I used to be a slicer, so I worked really hard, apparently too hard, on forcing an inside-out swing. I have clearly over-done it and now I am off line. I bet that that is also why I sometimes shank the ball or hit the ball off the heel. Thank you so much for this insight. Very helpful.
Very clever Rob-you have a unique way of getting your message across and it grabs one's attention. Always get something out of your sessions. Be well-Russ
Thank you kindly, Russ!
Very good information
Glad you found it helpful!
Rob so glad you posted this as I just went through this in a lesson with my coach this week. I was swinging excessively in to out, (6-8 degrees) with poor contact, pushes and slinging hooks. I think S&T tilts and hands in fooled me into thinking, I'd be on plane from the top coming down, but I actually have to swing left from the top to keep my hands in front of my body on the downswing and get the club to bottom out properly, keeping the path and swing direction more neutral.
EXACTLY! So happy to hear the video was helpful, as I see this issue so often in golfers. You're correct when you say some golfers misinterpret the "hands in" (or overdo it) to their detriment.
So, THAT’S why I hit so many pushes! It’s been a chronic mystery for way too long. It might seem like a no-brainer to figure it out on my own but I haven’t been able to. I usually manage to make decent contact and mostly hit the ball fairly straight, but when I miss it’s usually straight right. Really annoying! Your explanation was great and should help immensely. Thank you for this video. Excellent explanation as always!
I'm so happy to hear the video provided you with a clear explanation of your push shot. That was exactly my hope when I thought about sharing and communicating this information to the masses. I appreciate you watching and supporting the channel!
@ Shot a lukewarm 86 today. I can only think of one push shot throughout the round but most everything today went at my target. A clear improvement thanks to your video. Short game still needs work, but thank you again!
@@user2023workingonmygame amazing! Thanks for sharing! 👌🏻
Great video Rob⛳️
Thank you, sir! That means a lot coming from you! 🙏🏻
Rob - thank you for your great videos. I own a Hack-motion and your videos are helping me to get the most out of it. I just ordered the swing plate for my winter indoor practice sessions. Do you have a video where you explain how to set up the string lines on the mat?
Brilliant video and explanation. Top draw(er)
@@andrewhall7711 I see what you did there! 👌🏻
Thank you!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching! 👍🏻
Great video, sir! Excellent explanation of swing plane and how this affects contact. My father has been suffering from the shank and I think it could be from trying to swing too much in to out. Do you have any videos on how to get rid of the shank?
Thank you for watching! I don't have a specific video on the S#anKs... sorry. 🙏🏻
What would be a good range for swing path and swing dir?
Great question. It would depend slightly on the type of shot shape you prefer to hit. However, for a standard straight to slight push draw pattern, I'd look for SD to be 0 to -2, so that the downward angle of attack produces the positive path number of 2 to 3 degrees.
That’s what I thought. I have a lot of work to do there… I’m working on it! I tend to hit big draws and am on average 6deg with club path
Thank you for your answer
I appreciate it!
I think it's clear that if you actually swing in to out it's going to be bad. However, a lot of us have been swinging out to in for so long that we have to think we're swinging out to just make ourselves swing neutral.
Some day when we understand the origin of life and can reconcile Relativity and Quantum Mechanics - and also understand the origin of the universe - how thoughts are represented in the brain - Still there will be people explaining the Golf Swing to us !
Wow 😮!
( just a wee joke not a criticism ! 😂)
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So , you really don't know the origin of life??
Totally understand about placing the bottom of the arc ahead of the ball causes us to catch the ball in and in to out direction with out intentionally swing that way. But I guess this is the first time I have actually considered the SWING PATH and CLUB DIRECTION ARE two different things. I think this would be a good sub title for this video. This is might the bottom line on why golfers get this wrong .
So swing path refers to direction of the swing plane of the arc and club path refers to direction of the club at impact? Yes?
would standing too far from the ball also exaggerate this issue, by making the angles more severe on a shallower swing plane? definitely a problem I have had in the past. Thanks for the video
I would say it *could* do. But it could equally cause the opposite issue of encouraging an excessively OUT-to-IN downswing as a golfer swings over the top to try and "reach" the ball that way. So certainly no hard and fast rules here.
I’ve been trying to hit out to right field at almost 45° in order to compensate for a tendency to come over the top. It has helped significantly and the reality is your body turn straightens out the swing path after impact. If you release/roll your hands well through impact you shouldn’t push the ball to the right. If I tried to swing along the target line as you suggest, I’ll end up coming over the top and pulling the ball to the left. Also I’ve managed to use Paul Wilson‘s body swing technique fairly successfully which leaves the arms out of the swing. So there’s no trying to drop the arms vertically etc which seem to be traditional fix for coming over the top. Any suggestions for improvement would be appreciated! I’m on a 14 handicap trying to get to single figures.
Kinda strange that instead of correcting your self proclaimed issue, turning the upper torso early and firing your hands/arms out early coming over the top, you're doing all this compensatory work that makes your swing less powerful and out of time and even mentally you're trying to shoot 45 degrees off line. Instead, why don't you simply practice the transition into the top of the back swing, the weight shift onto the leading foot while pulling that back side elbow down before turning the shoulders at all. If you can't consistently get into this position you're always going to be fighting your own internal timing with the shoulders turning early throwing off the rest of the swing. Build a good foundation rather than a series of bandaids.
The problem with Golf is that there is what you are doing and there is what you think you are doing.
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I feel ya, I thought I was doing things then watched video and was shocked.... Especially trying to shorten my back swing
Can we do a follow up vid focusing on woods/hybrid version with this please?
I am more confused now
Have to understand the swing plane
Thanks but surely you don't have to sacrifice good contact by swinging a lot from the inside. If you really want to hit big draws you could actually just bring the ball towards your trail foot, back along the arc. And it doesn't have to be a big push as long as you manage to close the face the proper amount (which is always mandatory, anyway). If you like big draws that is.
So you tilt the pool noodle more in to out and thereby also place the low point behind the ball. That does not make sense. You could have kept the low point at the same place, right?
If you keep the low point in the same place then it would be considered a straight shot. But he’s saying that people don’t actually do that because they get off plane by trying to physically change the direction.
Try it for yourself. Make a swing that is excessively to the right and tell me where the club hits the ground.
The way your suggesting the noodle “could” still have the bottom in the same place is not really how it works.
Fixed with a non stack ‘n tilt lateral shift and utilising the club shaft axis to close the face.
It does make sense, since the center of the swing is still at the left shoulder.
@@janmiderback bingo! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Today’s lesson seems to contradict “hands in”. Am I misunderstanding the message?
Well, maybe... the hands on a tilted angle/plane still move "in". They don't move straight back/straight through. This lesson is describing that there is an INWARD boundary to HANDS IN, just as much as there is an OUTWARD boundary. "HANDS IN" doesn't mean you can move the hands as far inwards as you want to. That's what I hope you can understand from this video/lessson.
Just what we need, another RUclips golf coach (allegedly) telling us to forget everything that all other RUclips golf coaches have already told us! Think I’ll stick to watching Phil Mickelson, at least he has history in his corner.
Good luck! 👌🏻