Hunter x Hunter. Up until the end of the Heavens arena arc, I was thinking to myself "How could so many people love a show that is average?" But I was completely hooked since Yorknew and after finishing the Chimera Ant arc, I realized that HxH is my favourite manga/anime.
I remember the first time I watched attack on Titian I hated that Eren turned into a titan. I thought it was stupid and was so frustrated with the series from that point on that I didn’t even remember finishing the first season. Went back to it with a friend who had a similar experience and was completely enthralled. After we finished season 1 I watched all of season 2 and most of season 3 that night.
Honestly the first 2 1/2 volumes of berserk are better read after the eclipse when they actually take place. They’re still not great, but when you read it in the perspective of guts’ turmoil it’s better
Nice vid. The reason why these manga are all over the place with arcs, not including Berserk that had its own set of problems, is they are Shonen Jump manga and they are subject to the whims of surveys. If you read Bakuman, done by the same pair as Deathnote, they explain in full detail.
Here’s what happens. Shonen Jump is written for little kids in grade school. It’s like asking what are your favorite Lunchables are. And anyone who says a super longass series is good all the way through, 99% chance they are lying and their tongue is purple or green from the koolaid they drank. Mangaka are humans. They are creative. They get into ruts and unlike writing novels like say JK Rowling, they don’t get to take breaks. Many famous mangaka have this issue, including Miura, where they get tired of working in the same thing. But leaving a selling title is a huge deal in manga. So you’ll see some less famous mini series by these guys but then they go right back to doing Berserk and struggling with it. This is especially true with Shonen Jump and their surveys. The only ones that are great/maintain quality throughout are often seinen series. For example Lone Wolf And Cub is a masterwork throughout and reads like the mangakas had EVERYTHING plotted out like Watchmen and simply executed immaculately.
Yeah it’s hard to maintain anything resembling a consistent level of quality when you have to come out with a new chapter every week for several years.
In all media I consume, follow a 10-15% rule where I drop stuff if it hasn't gotten good after that around 10% mark. Generally speaking, the groundwork is done by then and the first proper arc is probably happening or almost done. It's long enough to judge the story, the writing and in the case of manga, the art as well. I spent enough time trying to force myself through books that just weren't for me that now I'm really quick to drop things that don't appeal to me immediately. Sad to say, One Piece was one of those. I actually somewhat vibed with the first few chapters, but eventually I just had to drop it after volume 10. I'm willing to give it another go at some point later on, but I'm not very hopeful. But man do I feel like I'm missing out.
You didn't like Baratie or Arlong Park? You didn't click with any of the characters or emotional moments. If you didn't like it or care about the strawhats friendship and dreams- I doubt you ever will.
@@Rent-z5y Yeah, the friendship or the emotional moments you refer to just weren't there for me. I read it because I felt like I had to, not because I necessarily enjoyed it. That being said, I've since read more shonen and I'm kind of getting used to the storytelling style, so I still intend to give it another go in a year or two.
When I was in high school, my school had both Naruto and Bleach. I could check out four books at a time, so I decided I would do two of each and see which one I stuck with. I put bleach down in favor of Naruto, and Naruto became my ride or die for the rest of HS. On a similar note, I was trying to get into Attack on titan when the anime first came out. Watched most of season one, and got over it. Now I have the whole manga, have read it all the way through, and will gladly read it again. I feel like part of what makes us decide a series is good or not, or when it gets good, is just based on who we are at the time. High school me needed to see Naruto figure himself out and get Sasuke back home; Adult me can see all the real world parallels and ideals in Attack on Titan. /Both series are good/, they just hit different at different times, ya'know?
This is me with the Gintama anime. I've struggled over 10 years to get into it but always drop it a few episodes in. Stores never sold the manga around here so I have no idea how it compares at the start.
Gintama’s my favorite anime but I get how people could struggle with it. The humor doesn’t find its footing until around episode 25 after the main cast is introduced, and the story doesn’t get going until episode 60-ish with the first serious arc, so if you’re not liking it at the beginning I don’t know if it’s worth watching all those episodes to see if you’d maybe like it later.
I watched a video on getting into Gintama and apparently I've been getting filtered by the first two episodes being filler. I think once my Japanese improves I'm going to just read the manga then see the anime after.@@spacedog644
Gintama is the kind of series that just isn’t for some people. It’s a series I dropped early on the first time I watched it and grew to like more as I got older. Anyone watching I think should skip to episode 3 since the first two episodes throw too much at you and it could put you off. On my second watch though I found the series to be good right from the start despite not taking to it the first time.
@@bireland2012I agree; I recommend skipping the first two episodes the first time you watch it. And even then it’s not going to be a show for everybody.
What a manga collection, so many good manga on there, and yes, it's 2023 and people should read/watch Katekyo Hitman Reborn. I liked the earlier parts too, I understood that it was a build up part of the story where they introduces all the core members of the series, and it was fun. People just need to have a little bit more patience. One Piece is also good for me from the very beginning. I don't like people who say "it gets good at point x, y, z", because if you don't like it from the beginning, it's probably not for you at the moment. You forgot to talk about Gintama, it's another series where a lot of fans couldn't really get into it because of the comedic nature of the series. It took about 55 episodes in the anime to get to the first "serious" arc of Gintama. Whether it's fair or not, the serious arcs I think are the ones that leave lasting impressions on most fans, compared to the episodic ones, even though the serious arcs aren't just what Gintama is all about.
Thank you! I agree that One Piece and Reborn are good from the beginning. I thought about including Gintama too since I think the beginning of it is pretty polarizing (although I still like it).
Bro just dissed my favourite arc in Naruto saying it was shit. IMO Zabusa is the best villian (apart from obito) and I feel his and haiku’s death left such an impact. Feel like the show went downhill and didn’t picked back up until shippuden and and then fell off again as soon as orochimaru died.
Yeah I feel like I was a little harsh on it. I liked the stuff with Zabuza, it was the training part with the walls of text that dragged it down for me.
Everytime I read a comment about black clover, these said it's the "shonen ever", "way better than the Big3, Attack on Titan, Jujutsu Kaisen, My Hero Academia etc", and becomes good later. I tried it, watched 52 episodes and nothing happened, it didn't have 1 memorable moment, good fight. Usually if a series not good, I just drop it. But because black clover was way too overhyped, became a huge disappointment and makes me hate it. First I thought the problem is me, but after I dropped it, I started Bleach and it not was just good, it made me remember why I love anime, what I felt when I first watched anime, it had everything what I love in anime. Sometimes recommending and overhyping a series makes the opposite effect in the end.
Personally I enjoy READING Black Clover more than watching it. The drawing is better than the animation tho the story is pretty much the same. I got to read BC in a point of my life when I needed, what I call, a “cliché” shonen so I’m also sure its not for everyone, cause if i had watched the anime first i would’ve dropped it so fast.
@@spacedog644 I'm sorry. I'm just a BoJack hater. I thought your ideas were great. What I dislike about BoJack it's the repetition each season introduces a new female, either love interest or daughter, BoJack breaks her heart by the end of the season go on a dug binge rinse and repeat. I don't get why BoJack after so many seasons and fucks ups, still was booking TV jobs being rich owning a mansion sleeping around. If I was writing BoJack by season 4 he would be broke homeless rehab and have a permanent scar injury from all those drug binges.
people who say the one piece doesn't get good until water 7 are lying, that's when one piece gets to probably one of the best shows of all time, people who say that are people who aren't fans and are just trying to downplay one piece. The show is peak from the start I don't get how people think otherwise, it can be not your favorite show but I highly doubt people think the start is bad.
@@atreyuoner9612 thats a hard questions i love both and i watched the anime all the way though and then read the manga when i caught up. When i started reading the manga i liked it better than the anime and i think most people who have read the manga will tell you they like it better but if you prefer anime in general i would start out with that and if you like it keep going, but if the pacing annoys you i would switch to the manga. If i were to restart i would probably watch just because i can watch more in one sitting but i am currently reading all the way through in the manga cause i want to experience both ways, But if you can read just as much as watching the anime then i would probably read. I'd highly recommend if you do read the manga to go back and watch especially the fights cause they are really good.
What’s a series that you didn’t like at first but got better later on?
Hunter x Hunter. Up until the end of the Heavens arena arc, I was thinking to myself "How could so many people love a show that is average?" But I was completely hooked since Yorknew and after finishing the Chimera Ant arc, I realized that HxH is my favourite manga/anime.
@@vojtechtesar5767Yorknew and Chimera Ant are my favorite arcs; I can’t decide which one’s better.
@@spacedog644 man I feel like the only person on earth who prefers Greed Island over all the other arcs (atleast that have been adapted into anime)
One piece and dragon ball
bro was speaking from experience in the itro
We’ve all been there
This has to be the best intro to a video ever
That opening cracked me up sir
Thanks!
best intro ever, deserves a like just for the intro
I’m so happy that you didn’t take another 8 months to make another video. I love you channel man, keep it up!
Thanks! I don’t know how consistent I’ll end up being but hopefully it won’t be eight months before the next video.
@@spacedog644 haha, at least it won’t be 8 months maybe 7 months and 30 days 😂
I remember the first time I watched attack on Titian I hated that Eren turned into a titan. I thought it was stupid and was so frustrated with the series from that point on that I didn’t even remember finishing the first season. Went back to it with a friend who had a similar experience and was completely enthralled. After we finished season 1 I watched all of season 2 and most of season 3 that night.
I also thought it was dumb that Eren turned into a Titan and then completely changed my mind later on.
Honestly the first 2 1/2 volumes of berserk are better read after the eclipse when they actually take place. They’re still not great, but when you read it in the perspective of guts’ turmoil it’s better
Yeah I liked those volumes more on a reread.
i’m lmao😂 the first minute got you a sub man. keep up the good work and i wish the best for you and your youtube journey!
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!
Lmao one piece volumes damn near take up one complete shelf💀
Nice vid.
The reason why these manga are all over the place with arcs, not including Berserk that had its own set of problems, is they are Shonen Jump manga and they are subject to the whims of surveys. If you read Bakuman, done by the same pair as Deathnote, they explain in full detail.
Thanks. Yeah, it hit me that almost everything I talked about in here is a long-running shonen. And I need to get around to reading Bakuman.
Here’s what happens. Shonen Jump is written for little kids in grade school. It’s like asking what are your favorite Lunchables are.
And anyone who says a super longass series is good all the way through, 99% chance they are lying and their tongue is purple or green from the koolaid they drank. Mangaka are humans. They are creative. They get into ruts and unlike writing novels like say JK Rowling, they don’t get to take breaks. Many famous mangaka have this issue, including Miura, where they get tired of working in the same thing. But leaving a selling title is a huge deal in manga. So you’ll see some less famous mini series by these guys but then they go right back to doing Berserk and struggling with it. This is especially true with Shonen Jump and their surveys.
The only ones that are great/maintain quality throughout are often seinen series. For example Lone Wolf And Cub is a masterwork throughout and reads like the mangakas had EVERYTHING plotted out like Watchmen and simply executed immaculately.
Yeah it’s hard to maintain anything resembling a consistent level of quality when you have to come out with a new chapter every week for several years.
In all media I consume, follow a 10-15% rule where I drop stuff if it hasn't gotten good after that around 10% mark. Generally speaking, the groundwork is done by then and the first proper arc is probably happening or almost done. It's long enough to judge the story, the writing and in the case of manga, the art as well. I spent enough time trying to force myself through books that just weren't for me that now I'm really quick to drop things that don't appeal to me immediately.
Sad to say, One Piece was one of those. I actually somewhat vibed with the first few chapters, but eventually I just had to drop it after volume 10. I'm willing to give it another go at some point later on, but I'm not very hopeful. But man do I feel like I'm missing out.
That sounds fair to me; 10% seems like more than enough time to see if something is for you or not.
You didn't like Baratie or Arlong Park? You didn't click with any of the characters or emotional moments. If you didn't like it or care about the strawhats friendship and dreams- I doubt you ever will.
@@Rent-z5y Yeah, the friendship or the emotional moments you refer to just weren't there for me. I read it because I felt like I had to, not because I necessarily enjoyed it. That being said, I've since read more shonen and I'm kind of getting used to the storytelling style, so I still intend to give it another go in a year or two.
@@unski7051 Hey man, it really isn't for everybody. It's not worth sticking it out if you don't like the Arlong Park Arc.
Reborn does in fact slap!
Good to see all the love for Reborn!
When I was in high school, my school had both Naruto and Bleach. I could check out four books at a time, so I decided I would do two of each and see which one I stuck with. I put bleach down in favor of Naruto, and Naruto became my ride or die for the rest of HS. On a similar note, I was trying to get into Attack on titan when the anime first came out. Watched most of season one, and got over it. Now I have the whole manga, have read it all the way through, and will gladly read it again.
I feel like part of what makes us decide a series is good or not, or when it gets good, is just based on who we are at the time. High school me needed to see Naruto figure himself out and get Sasuke back home; Adult me can see all the real world parallels and ideals in Attack on Titan. /Both series are good/, they just hit different at different times, ya'know?
Have you read Berserk Deluxe Volume 14?
I think it's the last Miura's volume
I have! I got it after I made this video.
yeah that story happened to me back in 09 crazy times for real
This is me with the Gintama anime. I've struggled over 10 years to get into it but always drop it a few episodes in. Stores never sold the manga around here so I have no idea how it compares at the start.
Gintama’s my favorite anime but I get how people could struggle with it. The humor doesn’t find its footing until around episode 25 after the main cast is introduced, and the story doesn’t get going until episode 60-ish with the first serious arc, so if you’re not liking it at the beginning I don’t know if it’s worth watching all those episodes to see if you’d maybe like it later.
I watched a video on getting into Gintama and apparently I've been getting filtered by the first two episodes being filler. I think once my Japanese improves I'm going to just read the manga then see the anime after.@@spacedog644
Gintama is the kind of series that just isn’t for some people. It’s a series I dropped early on the first time I watched it and grew to like more as I got older.
Anyone watching I think should skip to episode 3 since the first two episodes throw too much at you and it could put you off. On my second watch though I found the series to be good right from the start despite not taking to it the first time.
@@bireland2012I agree; I recommend skipping the first two episodes the first time you watch it. And even then it’s not going to be a show for everybody.
Bro's channel is older than me😃
What a manga collection, so many good manga on there, and yes, it's 2023 and people should read/watch Katekyo Hitman Reborn. I liked the earlier parts too, I understood that it was a build up part of the story where they introduces all the core members of the series, and it was fun. People just need to have a little bit more patience.
One Piece is also good for me from the very beginning. I don't like people who say "it gets good at point x, y, z", because if you don't like it from the beginning, it's probably not for you at the moment.
You forgot to talk about Gintama, it's another series where a lot of fans couldn't really get into it because of the comedic nature of the series. It took about 55 episodes in the anime to get to the first "serious" arc of Gintama. Whether it's fair or not, the serious arcs I think are the ones that leave lasting impressions on most fans, compared to the episodic ones, even though the serious arcs aren't just what Gintama is all about.
2024* now
Thank you! I agree that One Piece and Reborn are good from the beginning. I thought about including Gintama too since I think the beginning of it is pretty polarizing (although I still like it).
I wish Reborn was finished. I remember reading it as it was coming out and was bummed when the next volume never came.
Me too, Reborn rocks.
In my country we got all the 42 volumes and I just love this series, hope that you can get all of them soon!
@@Cas2000SanI would love that!
Bro just dissed my favourite arc in Naruto saying it was shit. IMO Zabusa is the best villian (apart from obito) and I feel his and haiku’s death left such an impact. Feel like the show went downhill and didn’t picked back up until shippuden and and then fell off again as soon as orochimaru died.
Yeah I feel like I was a little harsh on it. I liked the stuff with Zabuza, it was the training part with the walls of text that dragged it down for me.
I also love the Zabuza arc. A perfect introduction arc in my opinion.
Everytime I read a comment about black clover, these said it's the "shonen ever", "way better than the Big3, Attack on Titan, Jujutsu Kaisen, My Hero Academia etc", and becomes good later. I tried it, watched 52 episodes and nothing happened, it didn't have 1 memorable moment, good fight. Usually if a series not good, I just drop it. But because black clover was way too overhyped, became a huge disappointment and makes me hate it. First I thought the problem is me, but after I dropped it, I started Bleach and it not was just good, it made me remember why I love anime, what I felt when I first watched anime, it had everything what I love in anime. Sometimes recommending and overhyping a series makes the opposite effect in the end.
Yeah I haven’t checked out Black Clover but I’ve heard pretty polarizing things about it.
Personally I enjoy READING Black Clover more than watching it. The drawing is better than the animation tho the story is pretty much the same. I got to read BC in a point of my life when I needed, what I call, a “cliché” shonen so I’m also sure its not for everyone, cause if i had watched the anime first i would’ve dropped it so fast.
It's just not for you then... Personally i really enjoyed it
how i felt reading slamdunk tbh
I gotta check out Slam Dunk and see how I feel about it.
slam dunk is goated from chapter 1
The first few volumes I didn’t like either but by the end it was one of my all time favourites.
@@bireland2012 I’m on volume 11 now and I’m liking it a lot.
I love berserk vol 1 crazy action
I like volume 1 too but it had to grow on me.
bojack is garbage, glad you said that, i almost listened your manga opinion
I thought the first few episodes of Bojack Horseman were bad but I liked the rest. But if you don’t like the show that’s perfectly fine.
@@spacedog644 I'm sorry. I'm just a BoJack hater. I thought your ideas were great.
What I dislike about BoJack it's the repetition each season introduces a new female, either love interest or daughter, BoJack breaks her heart by the end of the season go on a dug binge rinse and repeat. I don't get why BoJack after so many seasons and fucks ups, still was booking TV jobs being rich owning a mansion sleeping around. If I was writing BoJack by season 4 he would be broke homeless rehab and have a permanent scar injury from all those drug binges.
No problem, it’s okay to be a Bojack hater. I definitely have some series I’m not a fan of too.
people who say the one piece doesn't get good until water 7 are lying, that's when one piece gets to probably one of the best shows of all time, people who say that are people who aren't fans and are just trying to downplay one piece. The show is peak from the start I don't get how people think otherwise, it can be not your favorite show but I highly doubt people think the start is bad.
Yeah it’s definitely good from the start.
Watching it or reading it better ?
@@atreyuoner9612 thats a hard questions i love both and i watched the anime all the way though and then read the manga when i caught up. When i started reading the manga i liked it better than the anime and i think most people who have read the manga will tell you they like it better but if you prefer anime in general i would start out with that and if you like it keep going, but if the pacing annoys you i would switch to the manga. If i were to restart i would probably watch just because i can watch more in one sitting but i am currently reading all the way through in the manga cause i want to experience both ways, But if you can read just as much as watching the anime then i would probably read. I'd highly recommend if you do read the manga to go back and watch especially the fights cause they are really good.
idk i liked Naruto from the beginning
Yeah looking back I was a little harsh on the beginning of Naruto in this video.
I thought it was cheesy
Hahahaha they dont