It's hard to believe these shows are in the same universe as a talking tree, talking raccoon, taking duck, gods, super soldiers, wizards, aliens, monsters and demons. They are just so grounded, especially Punisher considering he is a very realistic character. No powers, just skills he already learned in the military
I will argue vehemently that iron fist is underrated and considerably better than the second half of luke cage, and on par with luke cage and jessica jones. Its so easy to hate on it and i think the huge percentage of critics that rushed to call it racist without ever looking at the source material had a crippling effect on peoples views of the show as a whole. The actor that plays him isnt fantastic, but the show itself was highly entertaining, well written and carried by a great supporting cast (faramir was spot on) i recommend that people rewatch it with a completely open mind before jumping on the bandwagon.
I just did not like it because the entire fight scenes were just him whining about how he can't use the fist, and even if he did he only got maybe one good punch in, for an iron fist I expected him to be on par if not better than daredevil at fighting hand to hand, that was my only grievance
Yeah the fight scenes didnt hold up to daredevil, but daredevil set such a high bar that i think that was always going to be a problem. But that is a perfectly understandable greivance that i shared in several moments of the show
This is dumb. The only reason to tell a story backwards and forward like they do in JJ and IF is to create a depth that's inherently lacking. It works in JJ because Kill Grave/Firm/Luke are actual plot lines with consequences. IF writers knew the origin/corporate/hand arcs sucked individually so they filmed them concurrently and told a story that forces you to process all of this information at once with no regard for impact or consequences. If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself if you doubted if the chick would come around and Rand would gain control of Rand enterprises. You shouldn't have because nothing in the story would indicate any other alternative. JJ's flashback allude to things that are happening in the present, not just content dumps to avoid plotholes.
I agree with you about Luke Cage. Things just weren't the same after Cottonmouth died. As for the Iron Fist, ironically, I only started liking it halfway through the series. I like the part of this video where the Iron Fist is mentioned. Most of the main events are listed in chronological order instead of the order that they appear in the show. For me, at least, this more evenly intermingles the boring points with the more interesting.
I thought this was going to present a timeline (like as this was happening to Luke Cage, something-something was happening to Danny Rand). This wasn't a timeline. This was a summary with horrible commentary.
Stewart Fletcher Iron Fist was the easily the best first season of them all, i dont get why people shit on it so much, and also if youre going rate stuff based on your own chosen time frames splitting them up, its a really unfair rating system
it is a character drama where you know she is gunna be fine through it all because killgrave wants her to love him or if not that be his he wont kill her and she didn't change at all during the whole show
I didn't like the comments either however, I do appreciate the recap. Your right, watching all these shows can easily have someone get lost or not remember everything.
I can't say "Amen" even more about the writers of Luke Cage's main mistake in the show is that Mahershala Ali, a damn good actor (even better than Alfre Woodard [my opinion]), got taken out, and I still don't know why they took him out.
Sketchy Shy Guy cottonmouths sister is one of luke cages big villains and i though they were taking him out to have her be the final big bad, then suddenly that random hitman that i thought was an agent for black mariah revealed himself to be diamondback...who i thought would gave been saved for a season 2.....
BJ K He learned Luke Cage's real name and past from Shades. If he remained alive, he would use his knowledge against Luke, send him back to Seagate with no hope of him returning for The Defenders because no one had proof of his evidence before the end of the show. He was never meant to be the villain Luke throws down with in the final episode because he isn't as strong as he is in the comic books. In the comic books Cottonmouth is equally strong as Luke (minus the bulletproof skin), but he wasn't the one who framed Luke in the comics either. Diamondback was motivated by revenge, like in the comics, while Cottonmouth in both the comics and MCU show had no deeply personal beef with Luke, just a man living life by illegal or unethical means, though Mariah has more potential to be more ruthless.
I have a fan theory. All the Netflix Marvel shows take place in the 5 years after the Snap, before Endgame. It explains the absence of Iron Man, Spider-Man and Dr. Strange in New York, as well as the absence of the Avengers Tower from the NYC skyline, as it was sold in Homecoming. SHIELD also wouldn’t have been around at all. And maybe Hawkeye got wrapped up taking out members of The Hand in addition to the Yakuza? Endgame shows how dark the world got after the snap. I think the tone of the Netflix shows really matches that of the beginning of Endgame. I can’t think of any references in the Netflix shows to specific dates. It could easily be 2018-2023.
I also love Claire Temple. Gao was so wrong about her. "Hanging out" with those powerful guys did elevate her. She is a good reminder that you don't need superpowers to be awesome.
Why are so many people forgetting how much a masterpiece DD season 1 was? It was incredible followed by Luke cage Then Jessica jones Then season 2 of DD Finally iron fist
I think this could of been a lot better. Mainly if the following happened/were attempted. 1. Try to theorise. Connect dots from different shows, look for easter eggs and teasers. Guess about possibilities of where Defenders might go with it. Get idea's rolling that people may get excited over. 2. Relating to #1, tackle smaller details. Cause really all the stuff reviewed here was very basic knowledge. Not the kind of stuff people are likely to forget about. Which ultimately defeats the purpose of a timeline review, to refresh people's memories. 3. Opinions are fine, just know how to use them. Using it to say "Iron Fist was bad" and then moving on, probably wasn't smart. It wasn't followed with any reasoning or critique, or suggestions on how season 2 could do better. Instead it just served as a jab towards people who did like it. Also, you went to into political commentary at times (like with Jessica Jones being feminist because...?). If your goal to spread political messages fine, make a video about Jessica Jones and it's feminist leanings. But forcing it into a video that has nothing to do with politics does nothing but alienate your audience, one who otherwise could of bonded with their love of the Marvel Netflix shows. 4. Find a style. This video came across as it couldn't tell if it was talking to the viewers, or the hosts were fan gushing to themselves. Both can work, but when you aren't sure what you're doing (or, execute it poorly enough people can't tell there is a style) it just comes across as sloppy and hard to follow or get invested in. Likewise, it didn't seem to know if it wanted to be informative, or perspective base. Or in other terms, objective or subjective. Objective would of been looking over the stuff that happened, presenting the facts in the timelines, etc. It's purpose is to inform, not to tell. Subjective would be a lot more personal, what do YOU guys think of it? What were your thoughts? What do you want to see in the Defenders? People can get behind one or the other, I follow both kinds of channels personally. But when there isn't such a focus, it once again comes across as sloppy, it will annoy those who want to be informed because they feel like they're being told what to think, and people who come for the opinions feel distant because the opinions don't have time to be expanded upon/explained because you're off to the next bit of information. 5. Have composure. I can't tell if it's from a lack of confidence on the camera, or just sheer fan excitement. But the video constantly trails off and, as highlighted in #4 can't find a focus, and the hosts seemed rather nervous themselves the entire time. And really this could of been solved rather easily. If it was cause of excitement, hash it out among yourselves, have your fanboy/girling, and then once it's out of your system started filming. If it was an issue of nervousness, changing the filming environment, sit down, dim down the lighting, drink some tea. Find a way to be more relaxed before the filming starts, maybe have some friends behind the camera so it's as if you're talking to them. 6. Be aware of your bias, and be open-minded. Some heroes like Luke Cage and Iron Fist got a lot less coverage than Daredevil and Jessica does. And it shows from how many bashes the video took on the former 2 rather than the latter. Now, if you wanted this to be an opinionated video, that's fine. But be honest about that from that the start. Being aware of your bias definitely helps with more objective videos because you need to be objective. The whole point of it is to not be affected by bias and opinion. But even if you want a more subjective video, it can still help just so you can catch yourself when you might be overlooking something, or at the very least be frank to your audience in that "I didn't personally like this. This is why. It's fine if you disagree" etc.
Thanks for the coverage, saves me alot of time. Would change the hosts tho, cringy dialog and too much opinion. You are a nerd show, if you want to have opinions make a series about it, leave it out of a video covering a timeline
Do you know how many conversations I have with people using the nouns "That guy/woman from the thing/place"? The Avengers never getting a name drop does not bother me.
The Zompocalypse: just a couple from the top of my head, from The Avengers: Cap: "Hulk: Smash!" Tony Stark: "We have a Hulk." Sure there are plenty more...
Can you please tell me which series are connected with which one? Cuz i dont plan to watch all the series but i dont know if all of those are connected or not. So is it all connected like marvel movies? I think I will watch Agents of shield and agent Cartel but do i need to watch some other show before those or?
I think maybe the punisher is so cool is because... well somehow its just awesome to see someone who is a bad ass through sheer will power and determination as opposed to bad ass ninja skills we have seen... over and over...
Jesus that wasn't exhausting at all :)) thanks for the episode guys now i dont have to spend thousand hours trying to watch all the shows, although i hear great stuff about daredevil, (except luke cage, that shit is awesome! well half of it was awesome!) and can jump straight in to Defenders.
Madison Me too. I tried many timea to watch JJ and LC but I ALWAYS end up falling asleep. Maybe there's something wrong with me? Now DD S1 and S2 I watched it about 3 times, the same with IF.
1.DDS2 2. Iron Fist 3.DD 4. Jessica Jones 5. Luke Cage I also watched the first 4 episode of The Defenders and I'm loving it!! Can't wait for The Punisher and a fan in me really wants a Ghost Rider, Blade, and Moonkinght Netflix series. That tie into their own team with Punisher called the Marvel Knights. We would have two teams on Netflix. MCU is getting almost as big as its comic book universe and it's exciting.
Correction, Daredevil won't clear Luke Cage ( It's a very low chance ) because you see towards the end of the Luke Cage series in episode 13, Bobby Fish finds the lost file for the freedom for Carl Lucas, that Shades and Mariah dropped during the ambush of Diamondback. So the prediction, which seems more liable to happen, is that Bobby Fish gives the file to the Georgia police to free Luke Cage, especially since there was no real connection between Cage and Murdock other than Claire notifying Luke of him. It's also more liable for Luke to be out of Seagate by Bobby Fish, because they have a closer friendship than Murdock/Daredevil does with Carl/Luke.
Pretty good. Glossed over some stuff though, like Claire's relationship with Luke (that's going to come up since JJ has also hooked up with him), Foggy and Matt's fallout in DDS2, barely touched on Colleen Wing and I am sure she's going to be a big deal in Defenders...and I am sure a few other things I am forgetting right now.
Glad to see this recap. Somehow I had Daredevil season 1&2 a little mixed up. And I hadn't realized how much overlap Iron Fist (which I liked) had with Daredevil season 2.
Why are there so many thumbs down? This was a pretty thorough review, and is pretty much what every recap video on RUclips looks and sounds like. Fanboys can't handle even slight criticism of their shows I guess.
I thought Iron Fist had some pretty great corporate intrigue. The slow episodes were way better than the action packed ones (except when he challenged the hand the first time in that gauntlet, that was awesome)
Thank you so much for this video and thank you Philip DeFranco for letting me know it exist! I've spent a week trying to rewatch everything and figure this out on my own lol
A change of hosts would really help the growth of this channel tbh, also it would be great if there was some more visuals to help explain things other than clips from the show ex. An actual timeline image
lmao I love how phil sent us here. at least we know he doesn't have that hard of feelings about this channel. or he appreciated a good video rather than what happened
I like this video in theory but not in reality. If you're gonna do a recap, DO A RECAP. If you're gonna review each show, REVIEW EACH SHOW. Don't keep stopping every few minutes to make personal comments. People are watching this to get caught up on the story within the shows, that has absolutely no baring on whether YOU found the second halves of Daredevil Season 2, Luke Cage disappointing or Iron Fist boring. Not everyone has the same opinion. Oh, and just because you don't like a certain part doesn't mean viewers won't notice when you suddenly skim over that part of the story. You told us barely anything about the story in Luke Cage and Iron Fist in comparison to the detail you gave about Daredevil Season 1 and Jessica Jones. YOU'RE MEANT TO BE EXPLAINING THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS AND RECAPPING THE STORY.
The D&D nerd/Critical Role fan in me is realizing that The Hand are basically the MCU's version of Vecna's cult of worshippers. In Dungeons and Dragons, Vecna is the god* of secrets. The reason why he's got an asterisk next to his name is that he's not a full god, yet. Right now he's a lich, a *very* powerful (and 99.999% very very evil) magic user who placed a portion of his magical essence into a living host, basically a horcrux, so he could become immortal for all intents and purposes. Vecna's ultimate goal is to ascend to godhood like how the Raven Queen, the neutral goddess of fate and death in D&D, did when she ascended to godhood millennia ago.
This is why I love your channel, it's so detailed but easy to understand. I will say that I think the reason for Marvel Netflix characters not quoting the MCU names is because it seems that they want their own identity. I do get that it's all part of the same universe but Netflix characters are different in the darker tone and the MCU is lighter, so it's understandable that both want their own identity. But I do get what you mean "The Incident?" I mean come on...as you say it's the alien invasion. As for the characters in Netflix, I LOVE THEM! I actually love the universe most of all because they generally deal with real issues such as alcoholism, molestation, human trafficking, drugs, gang violence and corruption. For me, that is more relatable than the cheesy MCU tone. Although not saying I dislike the MCU - far from it - but Marvel Netflix has characters and stories that I find appealing. And another plus for Netflix is the writing and storyline. The dark tone is realistic for the tone of the universe, as you can't have the Punisher without seeing heads blown off can you? Of course not, it's all about the tone and writing - which they deliver in abundance. All four shows (including Iron Fist) have been immense and I can not wait for the Defenders. Especially as I'm reading the comic which is fantastic!!! So when we see the Defenders, it opens the doors for a number of characters to being introduced like Werewolf by Night, Moon Knight and hopefully Ghost Rider. But characters who are already there, like is anyone excited about the possibility of Hero's for Hire? or the rumoured Daughters of the Dragon? If I saw then onscreen I will be hyped! And with the Netflix Universe established thru can go bolder, darker without limits. I honestly think that if it went full on R-Rated it would still be popular, which goes back to the Defenders. From what I've read from various sources, it's meant to be darker in tone - which I embrace if true. Finally, for me it's all about Marvel Netflix and the world it's established. It's a good one as it's relatable, it has real issues that normal people can relate but it has the world where the good guys don't always win! Another realistic approach. Thank you guys for this awesome video. You both (and the rest of the team) are awesome :)))
Ironfist was the most binge watched show on Nexflix ever. You probably want to give it some credit bc most of everyone did watch it. Yeah it had a lot of flat moments but it's way better than any other real life adaptation of him.
Jeffy Dahma Yeah, but they needed a tv Avengers and this lineup is pretty great. I wish they would introduce Namor in the MCU though. He's such an interesting character.
Pretty sure fox has still has the rights to the surfer. I know they have fantastic four, and as much as I want a silver surfer movie, it would feel wrong to have him show up without the fantastic four. It would be like if they introduced the wasp before antman.
He's just a batman ripoff, like really obvious ripoff. He gets sent away as a child and ends up in an asian monastary themed place. Spends his youth training to become a kung fu master. Comes back to his home city to take up the mantle as a super hero and also as the heir to his fathers company. Fights against deadly assassins who work for an organization that wants to control the world from the shadows. That and the guy isnt the best actor. I watched half the season and the guy was the worst actor in every scene.
Season 1 of Daredevil and Jessica Jones are probably the best shows with Daredevil just barely edging out JJ because it didn't drag in it's last few episodes. That's followed by Season 2 of Jessica Jones, and then Luke Cage. After that is a bit of a drop off in quality then comes Defenders, and the absolute worst was Iron Fist. I hear Season 2 of Luke Cage is coming out, I'm interested to see where it fits in.
the reason for the cutsy nick names is because in reality they dont exactly know the right names for things humans do that every day so i would say it is rather accurate
Stop putting your opinions in every sentence and you left out: Hope's death, IGH, Daredevil's suit upgrade, Nelson & Murdock's end, just about all of Iron Fist's Kun'Lun moments, just about all of Iron Fist's parentage, just about all of Danny's time in the institute, just about all of Danny's friends and their parents Harold, just about all of Colleen's friends in the secret Hand Dojo place.
Iron fist was fantastic imo! I watched it without having seen/heard any reviews and I loved it so idk what you liars and channel thieves are talking about!
Maybe your channel would do better if you didn't shit on the shows and topics you personally didn't like. You might not have enjoyed Iron Fist but it is the most watched superhero show put out by Netflix, so someone out there must be enjoying it. I come from a Nerd channel that was open minded and didn't shit on nerd content left and right. I've been giving you guys a try but you just keep digging yourself deeper.
I think most people subscribe to RUclips channels about nerd stuff to hear people's opinions on it. The video would be pretty dry if they just kept saying what objectivly happened.
dont think that stuff with elektra and daredevil is boring at all and ust as good as punisher stuff just in another way. I really liked jessica jones but loved daredevil whole lot more
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I honestly really liked iron fist. It was slower paced but it had a lot of lore and good character development via morals.
Right
Yeah it was good but the heads being smashed with hammers made me ill
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It's hard to believe these shows are in the same universe as a talking tree, talking raccoon, taking duck, gods, super soldiers, wizards, aliens, monsters and demons. They are just so grounded, especially Punisher considering he is a very realistic character. No powers, just skills he already learned in the military
Kya:cause nobody dies in the mcu
Me:QUICKSILVER!!!!!😱😰😢
nobody who matters
Kya Quinn I'm pretty sure thanos is going to do a one or the other with scarlet witch about vison and quicksilver
But what if they do The House of M? Gotta bring him back.
SPOILER!!!!!
Mary Poppins.
how they gonna do house of m without any of the x-men
I will argue vehemently that iron fist is underrated and considerably better than the second half of luke cage, and on par with luke cage and jessica jones. Its so easy to hate on it and i think the huge percentage of critics that rushed to call it racist without ever looking at the source material had a crippling effect on peoples views of the show as a whole. The actor that plays him isnt fantastic, but the show itself was highly entertaining, well written and carried by a great supporting cast (faramir was spot on) i recommend that people rewatch it with a completely open mind before jumping on the bandwagon.
I just did not like it because the entire fight scenes were just him whining about how he can't use the fist, and even if he did he only got maybe one good punch in, for an iron fist I expected him to be on par if not better than daredevil at fighting hand to hand, that was my only grievance
Agreed I definetly enjoyed it a lot more than Cage
Yeah the fight scenes didnt hold up to daredevil, but daredevil set such a high bar that i think that was always going to be a problem. But that is a perfectly understandable greivance that i shared in several moments of the show
This is dumb. The only reason to tell a story backwards and forward like they do in JJ and IF is to create a depth that's inherently lacking. It works in JJ because Kill Grave/Firm/Luke are actual plot lines with consequences. IF writers knew the origin/corporate/hand arcs sucked individually so they filmed them concurrently and told a story that forces you to process all of this information at once with no regard for impact or consequences.
If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself if you doubted if the chick would come around and Rand would gain control of Rand enterprises. You shouldn't have because nothing in the story would indicate any other alternative. JJ's flashback allude to things that are happening in the present, not just content dumps to avoid plotholes.
I agree with you about Luke Cage. Things just weren't the same after Cottonmouth died.
As for the Iron Fist, ironically, I only started liking it halfway through the series. I like the part of this video where the Iron Fist is mentioned. Most of the main events are listed in chronological order instead of the order that they appear in the show. For me, at least, this more evenly intermingles the boring points with the more interesting.
Daredevil is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen!
I thought this was going to present a timeline (like as this was happening to Luke Cage, something-something was happening to Danny Rand). This wasn't a timeline. This was a summary with horrible commentary.
Netflix Rating:
1. Daredevil S2 (All the Punisher Stuff)
2. Daredevil S1
3. Jessica Jones
4. Luke Cage (until Cottonmouth dies)
5. Daredevil S2 (Elektra stuff)
6. Luke Cage (the rest of it)
7. Iron Fist
Stewart Fletcher nice
jessica is way better than daredevil in that its a character drama .now if your basing it on action your damn right daredevil is the best
Stewart Fletcher Iron Fist was the easily the best first season of them all, i dont get why people shit on it so much, and also if youre going rate stuff based on your own chosen time frames splitting them up, its a really unfair rating system
Exactly 100%
it is a character drama where you know she is gunna be fine through it all because killgrave wants her to love him or if not that be his he wont kill her and she didn't change at all during the whole show
Why did Phil send me here?
Taylor Carr thought the same thing.
Taylor Carr like for real my dude. Like c'mon Philly D
He made a mistake by sending us here and literally, it makes me doubt he even watched the video. probably too busy being annoyed by Joe Nation...
Austin Andrews lmfao. Yes. I will choose to believe that.
100% wondering too
I didn't like the comments either however, I do appreciate the recap. Your right, watching all these shows can easily have someone get lost or not remember everything.
"You can't kill anyone in the marvel universe" *cough*quicksilver *cough*
I can't say "Amen" even more about the writers of Luke Cage's main mistake in the show is that Mahershala Ali, a damn good actor (even better than Alfre Woodard [my opinion]), got taken out, and I still don't know why they took him out.
Sketchy Shy Guy cottonmouths sister is one of luke cages big villains and i though they were taking him out to have her be the final big bad, then suddenly that random hitman that i thought was an agent for black mariah revealed himself to be diamondback...who i thought would gave been saved for a season 2.....
BJ K He learned Luke Cage's real name and past from Shades. If he remained alive, he would use his knowledge against Luke, send him back to Seagate with no hope of him returning for The Defenders because no one had proof of his evidence before the end of the show.
He was never meant to be the villain Luke throws down with in the final episode because he isn't as strong as he is in the comic books. In the comic books Cottonmouth is equally strong as Luke (minus the bulletproof skin), but he wasn't the one who framed Luke in the comics either.
Diamondback was motivated by revenge, like in the comics, while Cottonmouth in both the comics and MCU show had no deeply personal beef with Luke, just a man living life by illegal or unethical means, though Mariah has more potential to be more ruthless.
I have a fan theory. All the Netflix Marvel shows take place in the 5 years after the Snap, before Endgame.
It explains the absence of Iron Man, Spider-Man and Dr. Strange in New York, as well as the absence of the Avengers Tower from the NYC skyline, as it was sold in Homecoming.
SHIELD also wouldn’t have been around at all. And maybe Hawkeye got wrapped up taking out members of The Hand in addition to the Yakuza?
Endgame shows how dark the world got after the snap. I think the tone of the Netflix shows really matches that of the beginning of Endgame. I can’t think of any references in the Netflix shows to specific dates. It could easily be 2018-2023.
I also love Claire Temple. Gao was so wrong about her. "Hanging out" with those powerful guys did elevate her. She is a good reminder that you don't need superpowers to be awesome.
ok I didn't know about you man, but the Bob Ross reference got me. I am now fond of all the hosts.
Iron fist was great.
i'm just gonna watch this because Phillip Defranco brought me here. Nothing more.
im realy glad there still trying to make this channel work because it actually has good content
3:55 "That's clever" **Nya not missing a beat** "Its funny to someone."
Already 9k subs? Great job!
I feel justified in stating that Philip DeFranco owes me 15 minutes and 38 seconds.
Why are so many people forgetting how much a masterpiece DD season 1 was?
It was incredible followed by Luke cage
Then Jessica jones
Then season 2 of DD
Finally iron fist
I think this could of been a lot better. Mainly if the following happened/were attempted.
1. Try to theorise. Connect dots from different shows, look for easter eggs and teasers. Guess about possibilities of where Defenders might go with it. Get idea's rolling that people may get excited over.
2. Relating to #1, tackle smaller details. Cause really all the stuff reviewed here was very basic knowledge. Not the kind of stuff people are likely to forget about. Which ultimately defeats the purpose of a timeline review, to refresh people's memories.
3. Opinions are fine, just know how to use them. Using it to say "Iron Fist was bad" and then moving on, probably wasn't smart. It wasn't followed with any reasoning or critique, or suggestions on how season 2 could do better. Instead it just served as a jab towards people who did like it. Also, you went to into political commentary at times (like with Jessica Jones being feminist because...?). If your goal to spread political messages fine, make a video about Jessica Jones and it's feminist leanings. But forcing it into a video that has nothing to do with politics does nothing but alienate your audience, one who otherwise could of bonded with their love of the Marvel Netflix shows.
4. Find a style. This video came across as it couldn't tell if it was talking to the viewers, or the hosts were fan gushing to themselves. Both can work, but when you aren't sure what you're doing (or, execute it poorly enough people can't tell there is a style) it just comes across as sloppy and hard to follow or get invested in.
Likewise, it didn't seem to know if it wanted to be informative, or perspective base. Or in other terms, objective or subjective. Objective would of been looking over the stuff that happened, presenting the facts in the timelines, etc. It's purpose is to inform, not to tell. Subjective would be a lot more personal, what do YOU guys think of it? What were your thoughts? What do you want to see in the Defenders? People can get behind one or the other, I follow both kinds of channels personally. But when there isn't such a focus, it once again comes across as sloppy, it will annoy those who want to be informed because they feel like they're being told what to think, and people who come for the opinions feel distant because the opinions don't have time to be expanded upon/explained because you're off to the next bit of information.
5. Have composure. I can't tell if it's from a lack of confidence on the camera, or just sheer fan excitement. But the video constantly trails off and, as highlighted in #4 can't find a focus, and the hosts seemed rather nervous themselves the entire time. And really this could of been solved rather easily. If it was cause of excitement, hash it out among yourselves, have your fanboy/girling, and then once it's out of your system started filming. If it was an issue of nervousness, changing the filming environment, sit down, dim down the lighting, drink some tea. Find a way to be more relaxed before the filming starts, maybe have some friends behind the camera so it's as if you're talking to them.
6. Be aware of your bias, and be open-minded. Some heroes like Luke Cage and Iron Fist got a lot less coverage than Daredevil and Jessica does. And it shows from how many bashes the video took on the former 2 rather than the latter. Now, if you wanted this to be an opinionated video, that's fine. But be honest about that from that the start.
Being aware of your bias definitely helps with more objective videos because you need to be objective. The whole point of it is to not be affected by bias and opinion. But even if you want a more subjective video, it can still help just so you can catch yourself when you might be overlooking something, or at the very least be frank to your audience in that "I didn't personally like this. This is why. It's fine if you disagree" etc.
i agree
Thanks for the coverage, saves me alot of time. Would change the hosts tho, cringy dialog and too much opinion. You are a nerd show, if you want to have opinions make a series about it, leave it out of a video covering a timeline
DD1>JJ>DD2>IF>LC
Thanks for the recap, this was pretty good.
I don't know if I am suppose to be proud that I finished The Defenders in one day.
Can some tell what shows to watch in order please and thank you
So was this the timeline of it happening in order cause I’m confused with all the new seasons and I don’t know where to start
This channel has a long way to go.
Those crossed fingers at the end pretty much sums it up.
Do you know how many conversations I have with people using the nouns "That guy/woman from the thing/place"? The Avengers never getting a name drop does not bother me.
Not to mention "that green guy" has no formal name in the MCU, even the other Avengers don't regularly refer to him as The (Incredible) Hulk.
Daniel Alexander exactly I think the fact that they don't use their actual names makes it way more realistic and funny.
The Zompocalypse: just a couple from the top of my head, from The Avengers:
Cap: "Hulk: Smash!"
Tony Stark: "We have a Hulk."
Sure there are plenty more...
I thought daredevil had a direct name drop of Captain America.
Can you please tell me which series are connected with which one? Cuz i dont plan to watch all the series but i dont know if all of those are connected or not.
So is it all connected like marvel movies?
I think I will watch Agents of shield and agent Cartel but do i need to watch some other show before those or?
As constructive criticism I would keep your opinions out of all the shows and just say that facts
EXACTLY as I was thinking! Claire the nightnurse is sooooo the Nick Fury to the Defenders
The synth track playing in the background is fire 🔥
Why does this have so many thumbs down? This is a solid plot recap and yea they gave their opinions on it so what? They're doing a fine job
I think maybe the punisher is so cool is because... well somehow its just awesome to see someone who is a bad ass through sheer will power and determination as opposed to bad ass ninja skills we have seen... over and over...
I like Luke Cage
Jesus that wasn't exhausting at all :)) thanks for the episode guys now i dont have to spend thousand hours trying to watch all the shows, although i hear great stuff about daredevil, (except luke cage, that shit is awesome! well half of it was awesome!) and can jump straight in to Defenders.
murat aruta you should really watch all the shows though
man i want to but there are way too many now :/
murat aruta wh-...why would you even bother with the defenders without watching all the movies leading up to it? DD season 1 was a masterpiece
DoobieDrew ive tried so many times to watch Jessica Jones but I cant get into it to even finish 1 episode a sitting 😥
Madison Me too. I tried many timea to watch JJ and LC but I ALWAYS end up falling asleep. Maybe there's something wrong with me? Now DD S1 and S2 I watched it about 3 times, the same with IF.
1.DDS2
2. Iron Fist
3.DD
4. Jessica Jones
5. Luke Cage
I also watched the first 4 episode of The Defenders and I'm loving it!!
Can't wait for The Punisher and a fan in me really wants a Ghost Rider, Blade, and Moonkinght Netflix series. That tie into their own team with Punisher called the Marvel Knights. We would have two teams on Netflix. MCU is getting almost as big as its comic book universe and it's exciting.
Correction, Daredevil won't clear Luke Cage ( It's a very low chance ) because you see towards the end of the Luke Cage series in episode 13, Bobby Fish finds the lost file for the freedom for Carl Lucas, that Shades and Mariah dropped during the ambush of Diamondback. So the prediction, which seems more liable to happen, is that Bobby Fish gives the file to the Georgia police to free Luke Cage, especially since there was no real connection between Cage and Murdock other than Claire notifying Luke of him. It's also more liable for Luke to be out of Seagate by Bobby Fish, because they have a closer friendship than Murdock/Daredevil does with Carl/Luke.
Sketchy Shy Guy after watching the defenders, Foggy Nelson and Matt Murdock got him out lol
SceptilePetile boy matt didn't help get him out foggy did
Pretty good. Glossed over some stuff though, like Claire's relationship with Luke (that's going to come up since JJ has also hooked up with him), Foggy and Matt's fallout in DDS2, barely touched on Colleen Wing and I am sure she's going to be a big deal in Defenders...and I am sure a few other things I am forgetting right now.
Glad to see this recap. Somehow I had Daredevil season 1&2 a little mixed up. And I hadn't realized how much overlap Iron Fist (which I liked) had with Daredevil season 2.
How many are here because Phil recommended it
Why are there so many thumbs down? This was a pretty thorough review, and is pretty much what every recap video on RUclips looks and sounds like. Fanboys can't handle even slight criticism of their shows I guess.
I love all the shows. every single episode. of every single show. Yay marvels defenders
I thought Iron Fist had some pretty great corporate intrigue. The slow episodes were way better than the action packed ones (except when he challenged the hand the first time in that gauntlet, that was awesome)
tehslapster agreed
Thanks guys, I love your hosting, natural and unforced but still entertaining 👍
This is a cool video. You earned a new subscriber.
Thank you so much for this video and thank you Philip DeFranco for letting me know it exist! I've spent a week trying to rewatch everything and figure this out on my own lol
A change of hosts would really help the growth of this channel tbh, also it would be great if there was some more visuals to help explain things other than clips from the show ex. An actual timeline image
Congratulations. The Bob Ross reference earned my like.
lmao I love how phil sent us here. at least we know he doesn't have that hard of feelings about this channel. or he appreciated a good video rather than what happened
I like this video in theory but not in reality. If you're gonna do a recap, DO A RECAP. If you're gonna review each show, REVIEW EACH SHOW. Don't keep stopping every few minutes to make personal comments. People are watching this to get caught up on the story within the shows, that has absolutely no baring on whether YOU found the second halves of Daredevil Season 2, Luke Cage disappointing or Iron Fist boring. Not everyone has the same opinion.
Oh, and just because you don't like a certain part doesn't mean viewers won't notice when you suddenly skim over that part of the story. You told us barely anything about the story in Luke Cage and Iron Fist in comparison to the detail you gave about Daredevil Season 1 and Jessica Jones. YOU'RE MEANT TO BE EXPLAINING THE TIMELINE OF EVENTS AND RECAPPING THE STORY.
The D&D nerd/Critical Role fan in me is realizing that The Hand are basically the MCU's version of Vecna's cult of worshippers. In Dungeons and Dragons, Vecna is the god* of secrets.
The reason why he's got an asterisk next to his name is that he's not a full god, yet. Right now he's a lich, a *very* powerful (and 99.999% very very evil) magic user who placed a portion of his magical essence into a living host, basically a horcrux, so he could become immortal for all intents and purposes. Vecna's ultimate goal is to ascend to godhood like how the Raven Queen, the neutral goddess of fate and death in D&D, did when she ascended to godhood millennia ago.
I wonder if they'll all bond over the fact that they all lost their parents at a young age.
I don't really get why you guys think Iron Fist is bad. For me it's:
Iron Fist > Jessica Jones > Daredevil S2 > Luke Cage > Daredevil S1
Can we get an update soon?
Wrong The Chiaturi Invasion date tho, it was confirmed it was on 2010, instead of 2012 to fit into the Spider-Man's 8 years later title card :)
Do an updated version of season 2 of both luke cage and Jessica jones also the punisher and defenders. Before any new ones
thanks for the recap
This is why I love your channel, it's so detailed but easy to understand. I will say that I think the reason for Marvel Netflix characters not quoting the MCU names is because it seems that they want their own identity. I do get that it's all part of the same universe but Netflix characters are different in the darker tone and the MCU is lighter, so it's understandable that both want their own identity. But I do get what you mean "The Incident?" I mean come on...as you say it's the alien invasion. As for the characters in Netflix, I LOVE THEM! I actually love the universe most of all because they generally deal with real issues such as alcoholism, molestation, human trafficking, drugs, gang violence and corruption. For me, that is more relatable than the cheesy MCU tone. Although not saying I dislike the MCU - far from it - but Marvel Netflix has characters and stories that I find appealing. And another plus for Netflix is the writing and storyline. The dark tone is realistic for the tone of the universe, as you can't have the Punisher without seeing heads blown off can you? Of course not, it's all about the tone and writing - which they deliver in abundance. All four shows (including Iron Fist) have been immense and I can not wait for the Defenders. Especially as I'm reading the comic which is fantastic!!! So when we see the Defenders, it opens the doors for a number of characters to being introduced like Werewolf by Night, Moon Knight and hopefully Ghost Rider. But characters who are already there, like is anyone excited about the possibility of Hero's for Hire? or the rumoured Daughters of the Dragon? If I saw then onscreen I will be hyped! And with the Netflix Universe established thru can go bolder, darker without limits. I honestly think that if it went full on R-Rated it would still be popular, which goes back to the Defenders. From what I've read from various sources, it's meant to be darker in tone - which I embrace if true. Finally, for me it's all about Marvel Netflix and the world it's established. It's a good one as it's relatable, it has real issues that normal people can relate but it has the world where the good guys don't always win! Another realistic approach.
Thank you guys for this awesome video. You both (and the rest of the team) are awesome :)))
Are you seriously gonna complain about the seasons being too long when they are already HALF the length of normal TV?
I don't get all the hate for iron fist it was my personal favorite
What could have taken 4 minutes of "this happened," we got 15 minutes of whatever that was supposed to be.
Ironfist was the most binge watched show on Nexflix ever. You probably want to give it some credit bc most of everyone did watch it. Yeah it had a lot of flat moments but it's way better than any other real life adaptation of him.
They actually look like nerds, now, that's a RUclips channel I want to follow. Knowing that they are who they say they are
Am I the only one that still liked Iron Fist? I know it wasn’t the best Marvel series by a long shot but it was still okay and enjoyable.
wasnt dr strange, the hulk, namor and other characters the actual defenders in the comic series?
Jeffy Dahma Yeah, but they needed a tv Avengers and this lineup is pretty great. I wish they would introduce Namor in the MCU though. He's such an interesting character.
Jeffy Dahma yes, also silver surfer
Pretty sure fox has still has the rights to the surfer. I know they have fantastic four, and as much as I want a silver surfer movie, it would feel wrong to have him show up without the fantastic four. It would be like if they introduced the wasp before antman.
Philly D Wtf? Why did you send me to NowThis? This is like Buzzfeed lite.
Phil....why hath you betrayed me?
It's kun lun not kune lune
they really look like they don't want to be there
I really wanted to watch this video, but I just couldn't get through it.
I don't understand why everyone hates Iron Fist. It was WAY better than Luke Cage and Jessica Jones
He's just a batman ripoff, like really obvious ripoff. He gets sent away as a child and ends up in an asian monastary themed place. Spends his youth training to become a kung fu master. Comes back to his home city to take up the mantle as a super hero and also as the heir to his fathers company. Fights against deadly assassins who work for an organization that wants to control the world from the shadows.
That and the guy isnt the best actor. I watched half the season and the guy was the worst actor in every scene.
I don't understand why any functioning human being thinks this.
Iron Fist was definately not as bad as how yall portrayed it to be
Season 1 of Daredevil and Jessica Jones are probably the best shows with Daredevil just barely edging out JJ because it didn't drag in it's last few episodes. That's followed by Season 2 of Jessica Jones, and then Luke Cage. After that is a bit of a drop off in quality then comes Defenders, and the absolute worst was Iron Fist. I hear Season 2 of Luke Cage is coming out, I'm interested to see where it fits in.
Iron Fist is so underrated and I hate how hated it is
What about now with the release of the PUNISHER
How much you wanna get that Sigourney Weaver is Danny's mom?
Justin Davis Wouldn't he recognise her? But it's strange they haven't said her last name
I grew up in the 80's reading comics like Powerman and Iron fist, and I must say, that's
#NotmyDannyRand
Where’s the “timeline” explained? When and how does Luke Cage meet Jessica? I’m confused?
the reason for the cutsy nick names is because in reality they dont exactly know the right names for things humans do that every day so i would say it is rather accurate
Stop putting your opinions in every sentence and you left out:
Hope's death,
IGH,
Daredevil's suit upgrade,
Nelson & Murdock's end,
just about all of Iron Fist's Kun'Lun moments,
just about all of Iron Fist's parentage,
just about all of Danny's time in the institute,
just about all of Danny's friends and their parents Harold,
just about all of Colleen's friends in the secret Hand Dojo place.
Iron fist was fantastic imo! I watched it without having seen/heard any reviews and I loved it so idk what you liars and channel thieves are talking about!
DAMN IT FIRST RULE ITS NOT TO SAY ABOUT FIGHT CLUB
Lime -Roblox-Mcpe It was also the second rule.
"It's funny to someone" HAHAH
I think that iron fist is one of the best marvel shows out there and did not deserve all this hate I am still upset that they cancelled season 3
She said Punisher like batman but cooler
Hold up
Aaa-- yooo bruce ,,
Bruce :" can i buy the entire marvel studio?"
Joker :" huahahah ha ha ha ha"
Here from Philip DeFranco
Daredevil was the best out of them all but you gotta watch them all to understand
I wish another channel had made this video...
Jessica jones, the punisher, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Dared Devil is connected to the avengers movies?
Good point
Maybe your channel would do better if you didn't shit on the shows and topics you personally didn't like.
You might not have enjoyed Iron Fist but it is the most watched superhero show put out by Netflix, so someone out there must be enjoying it.
I come from a Nerd channel that was open minded and didn't shit on nerd content left and right. I've been giving you guys a try but you just keep digging yourself deeper.
So they can't share their opinions?
xMxH not in a basic plot recap
It's probably so watched because people wanted to know exactly how bad it is
stewart fletcher doubt it
I think most people subscribe to RUclips channels about nerd stuff to hear people's opinions on it. The video would be pretty dry if they just kept saying what objectivly happened.
You guys should do Sense 8
dont think that stuff with elektra and daredevil is boring at all and ust as good as punisher stuff just in another way. I really liked jessica jones but loved daredevil whole lot more
So are you calling Claire Temple, Nick Fury instead of Coulson because you don't want her to die?
Koon loon? Lmao
Iron fist really disappointed me cause iron fist is one of my favorite marvel heros