Cuz you never listened to the right person :p with enough knowledge about your body you can often also easily deduce how an exercise should be performed for a certain muscle. But that takes a lot of experience ofc.
The depth is a good cue for that deep stretch but the lean of your body is a major factor also. Legs tucked backwards with a slight lean forward to target the chest and legs slightly in front of you with less forward lean for triceps. Scapula back and down for both and testing different pressure through the thumb side or pinky side of the palm also can help, even thinking about twisting the palms/wrists inwards towards the body on the concentric can be a positive
@NofirstnameNolastname also, there a lot of people on the internet now explaining this. I'm pretty sure there someone somewhere in a video saying the exact opposite.
All various of dips are correct, you just need you change your body position to train different muscle, I train calesthenics for 8 years. Its like with push-ups, you put your legs upper or down to train other parts of your chest.
👎🏽 you are an 8 year calisthenics athlete so you’re obviously advanced but the angel isn’t changing what you’re working it’s all the same with virtually no difference
@@hildakosamu5243maybe it's why there's a variation called a chest dip. Either variation effectively targets their muscle group, your personal focus determines which form is correct. Neither are wrong.
I was doing weighted dips for a while and noticed that my shoulders were beginning to hurt. Turns out I wasn't even doing them correctly, so I fixed my form using only my pure body weight, and it fixed the issue. Bruised the ego a little bit, but I have no regrets. I just wish I had known I've been doing them incorrectly this whole time lul
Best tip when doing dips is try keeping your shoulders under control, like don't get them too far behind i injured myself doing it and it hurts the collarbone like crazy!
Yes, get the shoulders as strong as your arms (triceps), no disproportionate strength. That helps remaining your shoulder tight and allow to have strong, stable dips, instead of shoulders slipping behind against gravity. Some instances, your shoulders can remain tight at the beginning of some reps, but as you do reps, the shoulders get weaker but your triceps still remain strong in the same weight.
If you’re doing dips for muscle growth/hypertrophy then you should go as deep as you can, slow on the eccentric maybe even pause at the very bottom and then you can come up normally or explosively, not a big difference. But the point is that you wanna get as much range of motion as possible and focus on the stretch position.
@@dannytran1587 Actually this type of dip involves a lot of chest. You can try it yourself next time you go to the gym, do 3-4 sets of 5-12 reps (if you can do more then add weight). You'll definitely feel it in your chest.
@@nikitaedell Studies have shown that 3 and 4 sets are just as effective for both building muscle and strength. Obviously depending on the rep range, but in general more reps = more gains.
Does it not depend on what your targetting? The leaning forward not going vertically is better for chest or shoulders i heard, and the form the guy did second time is more triceps , so there is no right or wrong way?
It’s actually a myth yes one might target the other moe but overall it’s the same stimulus regardless the guy he’s teaching just dosen’t have much strict control and it’s all in how you like to do them I lean forward just because it feels better
there absolutely is. its much more natural postion for you r shoulder and body, look at ANY calisthenics athlete doing them. especially in weighted category. why does noone do them otherwise? oh right the other ones had to stop working out because of major shoulder injuries
Fold your legs at the knees and go as low as you can. Than come all the way up to full extension. That's how to do a dip. The hardest way ALWAYS produces the best results. You will not be able to do as many reps, but they will produce better results. Your trapesius will grow dramatically.
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I DONT KNOW IF I AGREE WITH THIS METHOD ONLY IF YOUR PRIMARY FOCUS IS TRICEPS. HOWEVER, IF YOUR LOOKING TO HIT THE CHEST THEN I WOULD TURN MY BODY AROUND THE OPPOSITE OF HOW HE'S DOING A DIP AND YOUR BODY WILL NATURALLY LEAN FORWARD ALLOWING YOU TO PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON YOUR CHEST. I AM A TRAINER WITH 30 PLUS YEARS OF TRAINING 💪. JUST SOME ADVISE
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Been doing a 150 dips for 4-5 times a week in a day hopefully when I turn 20 next year I looked like you. I honestly think raw power and strength is earned from body weight not weights
@@majormojo9830 my bones on my forearms kinda hurt… but for what I’ve been doing I can lift myself up like a piece of paper and I’m 185 rn. I do push up with like 200-300 if I push it and some pull ups. I stay away from weights so I don’t break myself lol.
“Depends on what muscle you wanna work” from a bunch of people who don’t know what muscles they even talking about with they giraffe necks and Quasimodo shoulders
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I'm a physical therapist, and this is very bad advice for shoulder health, especially for those who don't have enough shoulder flexibility and control under load. You should always engage the scapulas by retracting and pulling them down, as you perform the dip. Doing dips like this, as many "personal trainers" show, puts unnecessary and unhealthy strain on the anterior capsule and structures of the shoulder joint, increasing risk of injury or long-term issues.
The novice is not doing a complete form of what Ian has demonstrated. The difference is that the novice is just moving down in a line, not controlling the dip, while Ian is moving down, crunching the core, and restricting rom of the chest and shoulders by leaning forward (maybe even posterior tilt). The chest also mainly responsible for keeping dips in a stable position at the bottom of the movement, which is by not losing the chest into a stretched position and not using too much shoulder flexion. In every case in weighted dips, if you lose the chest by going into a retracted position, the chest is coming up, it will be much harder to go up anymore since you lost contraction of the chest, and most of the load is now on the shoulders. But, if you keep the contraction of the chest, not losing the chest, the chest will be utilized, contracted, decreases the load of the shoulders and help you get out of the bottom position. The only time the shoulders get in an unhealth position is when executed with bad form. A better explanation would be from a streetlifter named Micha Schulz who is highly in-depth and scientific in weighted dips form that most athletes like Ian have. ruclips.net/video/L-gtJEtkYRQ/видео.htmlsi=WuxojBTTOOtQh4bs
I also had this pain really bad about a month ago. Try keeping your shoulder blades close together for the entirety of the movement. I had to search so long for a fix and was so confused why I couldn't find anyone else who had it, so I'm happy to help you.
To prevent this, don't allow your shoulders/traps to shrug up too much. So, keep a tight active grip on the dip bars and try to put force into it, kind of like a bench press. If you're having trouble doing this, it might be a weak serratus anterior, which is often overlooked. I had this problem as well.
@@sadullokhojiboev3889 in fact you are wróng, vertical positioning puts much more stress on your shoulders and will tear your rotator cuff, once you progress in doing them weighted
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dude, this is incredibly helpful! why tf has no one ever explained it this way?? you’re a true asset, keep doing the lords works ✊🏼
Cuz you never listened to the right person :p with enough knowledge about your body you can often also easily deduce how an exercise should be performed for a certain muscle. But that takes a lot of experience ofc.
The depth is a good cue for that deep stretch but the lean of your body is a major factor also. Legs tucked backwards with a slight lean forward to target the chest and legs slightly in front of you with less forward lean for triceps. Scapula back and down for both and testing different pressure through the thumb side or pinky side of the palm also can help, even thinking about twisting the palms/wrists inwards towards the body on the concentric can be a positive
@NofirstnameNolastname also, there a lot of people on the internet now explaining this. I'm pretty sure there someone somewhere in a video saying the exact opposite.
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All various of dips are correct, you just need you change your body position to train different muscle, I train calesthenics for 8 years.
Its like with push-ups, you put your legs upper or down to train other parts of your chest.
👎🏽 you are an 8 year calisthenics athlete so you’re obviously advanced but the angel isn’t changing what you’re working it’s all the same with virtually no difference
@@mellortoonie it does change what the primary working muscles are
@mellortoonie I know you don't do dips by that comment 😂
@@djb3273 a random RUclipsr believes he knows what I do and don’t do 😂🥹 awww must want to feel smart online 😂
@@mellortoonieu fool
But if you lean forward you are engaging mainly your chest and by doing dips in a line like you suggested you engage mainly your triceps.
Maybe thats why there called tricep dips
@@hildakosamu5243maybe it's why there's a variation called a chest dip. Either variation effectively targets their muscle group, your personal focus determines which form is correct. Neither are wrong.
Bro just gave away ians secret to huge arms
Yes you are correct, there are different ways to do exercises, they are called variations. Obviously this guy is focusing on triceps not chest.
@@hildakosamu5243They aren’t called “tricep dips”. They’re just called dips. And you can do whatever variation you want. Duh.
I was doing weighted dips for a while and noticed that my shoulders were beginning to hurt. Turns out I wasn't even doing them correctly, so I fixed my form using only my pure body weight, and it fixed the issue. Bruised the ego a little bit, but I have no regrets. I just wish I had known I've been doing them incorrectly this whole time lul
what is the correct form ?
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is that Andrew Tate?
Literally thought it was tate for a second 😂
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@MoonMan14 ?
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That's Anderson Tate
Awesome ;) So many short range dips out there. Also though, a forward angle on the dip is beneficial too.
We need videos like this bro good advice
Best tip when doing dips is try keeping your shoulders under control, like don't get them too far behind i injured myself doing it and it hurts the collarbone like crazy!
Yes, get the shoulders as strong as your arms (triceps), no disproportionate strength. That helps remaining your shoulder tight and allow to have strong, stable dips, instead of shoulders slipping behind against gravity. Some instances, your shoulders can remain tight at the beginning of some reps, but as you do reps, the shoulders get weaker but your triceps still remain strong in the same weight.
If you’re doing dips for muscle growth/hypertrophy then you should go as deep as you can, slow on the eccentric maybe even pause at the very bottom and then you can come up normally or explosively, not a big difference. But the point is that you wanna get as much range of motion as possible and focus on the stretch position.
Yeah when those elbows go to a 90-degree positioning you know you're performing good form
Just means you’re doing tricep dips and not the chest variation
@@dannytran1587 Actually this type of dip involves a lot of chest. You can try it yourself next time you go to the gym, do 3-4 sets of 5-12 reps (if you can do more then add weight). You'll definitely feel it in your chest.
@@dannytran1587 wrong, your chest will work anyways
@@MrGreFunky if you need 4 sets for a single exersize, youre just not training hard enough...
@@nikitaedell Studies have shown that 3 and 4 sets are just as effective for both building muscle and strength. Obviously depending on the rep range, but in general more reps = more gains.
Depends what muscles you want to work
This is the correct answer
@@curtistaylor6003not really, the form he is fixing is not keeping ur body upright but it is too press down and not at an angle
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Just do what feels good for shoulder. You can get ac joint problems if you do it too low
@@chvy6268 more vertical is more tricep, more slightly foward works on your chest
I tried that yesterday it works thanks bro
I just learned something new
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This is not Andrew Tate, this is Mr Nima Yamini
Does it not depend on what your targetting? The leaning forward not going vertically is better for chest or shoulders i heard, and the form the guy did second time is more triceps , so there is no right or wrong way?
Yes ofc l
It’s actually a myth yes one might target the other moe but overall it’s the same stimulus regardless the guy he’s teaching just dosen’t have much strict control and it’s all in how you like to do them I lean forward just because it feels better
@BRUH thanks
@@mellortoonie thanks
He was having a lot of balance problems and he fixed that.
This is really helpful🙌🏻😇
Top G learned how to dips
LOL your proud dad face when he fixed his form
Thanks brother I was doing it in wrong way
Bro did it better than trainer😂
Vertical push ! down!💪
Both moves are good
I love those Jordan 3's
Can you do perfect dips?
@@YouEatBabies1911 yeah man, I have been progressing recently
@@Aaron_777 alright good
Thanks
I really needed this
Jordan 3s looking clean
Cool. I needed this. I'm a tall guy. The bars are usually set too low... so I have just been leaning further forward rather than adjusting them.
its better to tuck your knees then
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wow, ian is stable😂
Thank you, i just brokw my chest doing that
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My has a dip bar that is too low, so I can only do the first one. When I do the second one my feet touches the ground. I do it with +30kgs
His elbows go out. That, s so hard for him and for the most
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Bro I have been struggling with sternum pain after I started ur program, I've tried to fix my form but nothing changed, still in pain, what can I do?
You can ask this question on his discord server you know
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What is wrong with keeping your body “planked” leaning forward? Moving towards a superman dip. Zero reason that is bad.
When you put lof of weight in that position, trust me it won't be fun cuz you will be swinging like crazy
there absolutely is. its much more natural postion for you r shoulder and body, look at ANY calisthenics athlete doing them. especially in weighted category.
why does noone do them otherwise? oh right the other ones had to stop working out because of major shoulder injuries
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For anyone blind watching this, he's doing dips off some old haunted floorboards
Thank you 💪💪💪
thanks for the tips
Going straight down if for more tri, leaning into it helps chest
But what if you want to target more chest? Should you be leaning forward instead of straight?
Fold your legs at the knees and go as low as you can. Than come all the way up to full extension. That's how to do a dip. The hardest way ALWAYS produces the best results.
You will not be able to do as many reps, but they will produce better results. Your trapesius will grow dramatically.
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I’m in Miami area - your welcome to come visit anytime you like 👍
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his form was fine he just needs to do more
thanks, i can do 20kg 10reps weighted dips....i followed your technique for building muscle....dips n pullups only...leg day separate
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The elbow clicks
Is this “fixing” or just rotating the muscle utilization? The original technique is still a solid exercize. Right?
Dude you can hear his shoulder tendons popping
I DONT KNOW IF I AGREE WITH THIS METHOD ONLY IF YOUR PRIMARY FOCUS IS TRICEPS. HOWEVER, IF YOUR LOOKING TO HIT THE CHEST THEN I WOULD TURN MY BODY AROUND THE OPPOSITE OF HOW HE'S DOING A DIP AND YOUR BODY WILL NATURALLY LEAN FORWARD ALLOWING YOU TO PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON YOUR CHEST. I AM A TRAINER WITH 30 PLUS YEARS OF TRAINING 💪. JUST SOME ADVISE
It all depends on which muscle you want to Target
You could hear the clicking in the first guys form💥🚨🔕👍
Don't let your shoulder go below your elbow, or you'll get injured eventually.
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Why is there a sharp pain on my traps or collar bone when i do heavy weighted dips. The pain happens just after completing the set. Is it normal?
Oh thanks man
Been doing a 150 dips for 4-5 times a week in a day hopefully when I turn 20 next year I looked like you. I honestly think raw power and strength is earned from body weight not weights
Whoa there cowboy. Slow down. Thats excessive and will only cause you damage
@@majormojo9830 my bones on my forearms kinda hurt… but for what I’ve been doing I can lift myself up like a piece of paper and I’m 185 rn. I do push up with like 200-300 if I push it and some pull ups. I stay away from weights so I don’t break myself lol.
@@majormojo9830 I do 150 dips a day if you understood it wrong. I don’t do 1000 a day 😅😅 that’s some Mike Tyson stuff
@@blackhole7667 so you only train triceps and a bit of shoulders and chest?
@@majormojo9830 lmfaooo no it won't take rest days and your good I do nothing but bodyweight
“Depends on what muscle you wanna work” from a bunch of people who don’t know what muscles they even talking about with they giraffe necks and Quasimodo shoulders
This guy is on another level
Nice one bro.
Yeah before I could do them right, and now I know that swinging is wrong.
They're both correct. just go all the way down.
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How would I treat this ? Pls help ?
streight down in more triceps and more in front of the body is chest heavy am i wrong?
Yes overall both versions hit the chest and tris
But forward does hit lower chest more
I'm a physical therapist, and this is very bad advice for shoulder health, especially for those who don't have enough shoulder flexibility and control under load. You should always engage the scapulas by retracting and pulling them down, as you perform the dip.
Doing dips like this, as many "personal trainers" show, puts unnecessary and unhealthy strain on the anterior capsule and structures of the shoulder joint, increasing risk of injury or long-term issues.
The novice is not doing a complete form of what Ian has demonstrated. The difference is that the novice is just moving down in a line, not controlling the dip, while Ian is moving down, crunching the core, and restricting rom of the chest and shoulders by leaning forward (maybe even posterior tilt). The chest also mainly responsible for keeping dips in a stable position at the bottom of the movement, which is by not losing the chest into a stretched position and not using too much shoulder flexion. In every case in weighted dips, if you lose the chest by going into a retracted position, the chest is coming up, it will be much harder to go up anymore since you lost contraction of the chest, and most of the load is now on the shoulders. But, if you keep the contraction of the chest, not losing the chest, the chest will be utilized, contracted, decreases the load of the shoulders and help you get out of the bottom position. The only time the shoulders get in an unhealth position is when executed with bad form. A better explanation would be from a streetlifter named Micha Schulz who is highly in-depth and scientific in weighted dips form that most athletes like Ian have. ruclips.net/video/L-gtJEtkYRQ/видео.htmlsi=WuxojBTTOOtQh4bs
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I get pain on my collarbone when I do dips, anyone else deal with that before? Any suggestions?
I also had this pain really bad about a month ago. Try keeping your shoulder blades close together for the entirety of the movement. I had to search so long for a fix and was so confused why I couldn't find anyone else who had it, so I'm happy to help you.
@@angycucumber4319 its the exact oposite. thats the mistake you need protraceted or neutral scapula, look at ians form
To prevent this, don't allow your shoulders/traps to shrug up too much. So, keep a tight active grip on the dip bars and try to put force into it, kind of like a bench press. If you're having trouble doing this, it might be a weak serratus anterior, which is often overlooked. I had this problem as well.
But good form also comes with reps he’s stronger so it’s also easier to hold that 90
Is this chest or tricep dominant?
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Hi, my dip bar is kinda short so i gotta tuck my legs what do i do to align my body
They look better but he still has to lean a bit forward... Doing it so straight doesn't look too healthy for your shoulders
I mean, he did just learned it. Give him some time and he will master it.
In fact,the opposite is true
@@sadullokhojiboev3889 in fact you are wróng, vertical positioning puts much more stress on your shoulders and will tear your rotator cuff, once you progress in doing them weighted
Thanks! I was wondering this
At first I thought that was bottom G
Can anyone explain why it’s hurts your sternum after a set?
Teach him to hollow his body. Pull the hips forward by engaging your abs. It'll help stabilize his core.
Dips hurt my shoulders so bad
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What about the elbow clicking as you go down it messes up my focus
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Deeper range of motion much nicer
Exactly 💯
That’s tricep dips. Your suppose to lean your chest forward for the best results
What if the dip bar is too low so you have to bend your legs do you just go down from your knee cap?
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You hear the tickin noise from the mirrors when the do the excersize, my ocd kicked in. Fck thatt.
What shoes is Ian wearing?