you guys should do the same concept, but choose the best design year for each model. Maybe list a collection of 10-15 cars and choose their best year based on design
The first year that came to mind when I read the title was “2005.” I literally jumped in joy hearing Doug say 2005 as well! The best thing about those vehicles is that most of them are still relatively obtainable. You can have an iconic sports car before they added all the electronics without spending 6 figures.
in 2005 I was 6 years old. This was the age when I started staring at cars out my backseat window. It was truly the best time to be a kid, absolute monsters on the road.
I also think 2004/2005. It was the last year of Audi/VW B5/C5 chassis and also the last year where you could still get a diesel without DPFs in most parts of the western world.
@@koyamma9575 I wasn't really comparing PD or CR. Neither of them is particularly reliable when comparing to the distributor pump 8 valve engines. :D However VW made both PD and CR with a DPF after 2005 though.. Before that they were ofc better.
True, like what they want if they are speaking about cars like 430 and others which cost and issues are on another level and after that they say about m5 v10 being not realible, when it revs into 8,5k rpm and u need to make changes on almost one thing, its like v10 its not Compact car no matter how they want, but okay they don't own one so i get it, after all, who know which cookie is his favourite 😂
@@jakubroszka1021 bro what are you talking about i was like "did this guy reply to the wrong person?" and then at the very end you brought it back to the cookie and i still don't know what you were trying to say
This has to be 2010. Think about all the special cars that were on the market during that time! Any DuPont Registry Buyers Guide will show you that (what happen to those, miss them). That was the tail-end of the analog sports car, but with restrained modern styling and tech. M3 GTS, 997 911 GT3 RS, LFA, Apollo S, Veyron SS, the various Zondas, the Agera, 458 Italia, Gallardo Superleggera, Murcy SV, Vette ZR1, the return of McLaren with the 12C, Sesto Elemento, One-77, DBS, 918 Concept, SLS, Shelby Super Snake, the return of the Camaro, CX-75, RX-8 R3, 599 GTO, Nissan GTR, Challenger SRT8, 370Z, GranTurismo, XKR, Grand Cherokee SRT8, R8 for the V10 with the FSI, there might’ve even been some rogue 722 SLRs out and about, the Exige 260, TTRS, F-150 Raptor, RS6 Avant, Spyker C8, 8C Spider (yes, it made it to 2010), IS-F and we can go on forever!
also, you could still buy a V10 M5 and M6, Audi had a V10 S6 and V10 RS6. That was the last call for MODERN cars, but still analog, like BMW 7 series still had buttons and physical stuff but already had big screens and all nice modern technology like adaptive cruise control, headup display or whatever. Even today you could just update the software in that 7 series and it will run car play and other stuff
I think Doug is on to something with '05... the end of an era. I bet in 15 years the current generation of cars will also be looked back on as the glory years of internal combustion.
More wit and comedic wisdom from the king of the village idiots. How could a single person be so consistently irrelevant and pitiful? I’d suspect your parents are as disappointed with you as the millions who are assaulted by your inane and repetitive comments.
I love how you can find out the order they shot the vids in from how much of the cookies is left on the CGT - also you gotta give it to doug for spending such a high budget on these swapping Tshirts every time
Doug how could you possibly forget the Buggati Veyron?! Its first model year is 2005 and it's probably the most significant supercar of the modern era.
@@BollocksToThat Pretty sacrilegious statement there ngl, I'm 19 as of writing this and I know plenty of people (my age) who know about, and some of them actually love old cars. Also they're not about speed or handling, it's for the appearance and beauty that a lot of old cars have.
Gotta go with Doug here on this one. When I sat down and tried to figure out my year before watching and I was thinking in the 2003-2006 era had to be in there. Great content here guys.
Facts I was thinking about this idea when I was looking at my hotwheels collection. I noticed I mostly collected 2008-2010 cars. Idk it has to be 2009.
I’m with Doug on this one. We have a 2005 Subaru Baja and Forester XS. Great cars. It was a time that performance was decent, but the cars were still decently analog and not so complex that they break like modern plastic cars. I do love me some 90s cars too (I also have a lifted 96 Impreza and stock 97 Legacy) so both your picks are solid.
As a subaru enthusiast and someone who owns a 95 legacy and also a 98 outback I do love the 90s, however I think 2005 is the correct answer. You could get almost every car in the Subaru lineup with a turbo engine and a manual transmission. The whole XT lineup, legacy GT, spec B, and obviously the Blobeye wrx/sti
You both have great points and cars as examples, but I have to admit, I'm grooving more on '97. The RX-7 may be a stretch, but I'm willing to do that over the RX-8. The 7 was a great car. Not mentioned was that generation Civic. That was the last gen for 4 wheel independent, uneven length,double wishbone suspension.
I think the car design went downhill after 95-96 because extensive computer use and regulations. I have a 6th civic but the 5gen looks better imho. Let's not even talk about the horrible 7gen. Examples that come to my mind are ferrari 355, honda city, nsx (lost the pop-up head lamps), integra, mitsubishi colt, mazda mx5, porsche 911 obviously, almost all french cars...
Doug is talking about all of the great cars from 2005 but he missed the best of them all, the Bugatti Veyron. 1000 horsepower, 253mph, W16 engine. It is a league above all other cars from that era.
My pick is 2008. I remember going to Lamborghini Las Vegas and Naples Motorsports back then, and seeing brand new LP640's, SLR Mclarens and manual F430's. Not to mention the 997.1, W211 E63 AMG and W221 S65 AMG were still in production.
that is definitely one downside to 2005, Gallardo and Murci are still pre-facelift, but then again Gallardo does have the better sounding, but less reliable engine
I can’t believe Doug forgot the Bugatti Veyron! But there’s also a huge list of other great cars like the Cobalt SS, GTO, Trailblazer SS, Cayenne Turbo, Cayman, Saleen S7, Zonda, Saleen & Roush mustangs, DB9, C6 Z06, SL65, Koenigsegg CCR, Audi S6 V10, STS-V, XLR-V.
2006 model year is the first that comes to my mind. Ford GT, Corvette C6 Z06, Dodge Charger, Hummer H1 Alpha! Second year of my favorite modern Mustang generation Gen 5. Second year of the great Porsche 997 generation. Ferrari still making one of my favorites the F430. Lamborghini making the Murcielago and the Gallardo! It was an awesome year!
I like 2009. I know others will disagree, but you've got: S2000 CR - 370Z - RX8 - R35 - Manual R8 - GT3/GT3RS/GT2 - Could have ordered 599 with manual as last manual V12 Ferrari - Could have ordered California in manual as last ever manual Ferrari - Manual Lamborghinis - C6 ZR1 - Viper - F430 Manual - F430 Scud - 987 Cayman - Challenger - SLR - SL65 Black Series - 997.1 Turbo Manual
I feel like he recorded atleast half a dozen videos back to back in his garage so when he needs filler to take a vacation or spend time with his kid he just drops one of these
He records multiple videos at one time when possible so he has time to work on other projects or Cars and Bids or take a vacation, spend time with his wife and baby. This is why you see these garage video with this friend or with Hoovie as these can be prerecorded all at once and then used as filler when he has other obligations or Desiree to take time off.
1972. Big Bumpers and emissions hadn't kicked in. But car design was in a siblime state. You had the Ferrari Daytona, Lamborghini Muira, BMW 3.0csi and 2002tii, Citroen SM and too many others to mention. To be sure there are many beautiful cars from the 1960's also, but 1972 was a peak year. By the mid-70's, regulations were strangling cars. They eventually recovered, after a fashion, but were never as beautiful or unrestrained again.
I respectfully disagree. Cars back then got you WAY less power for the money. If you wanted to do 0-60 in the 5-second range, you needed to be a baller that could afford a Porsche 911. Today? You can do it with a base Mustang that's considerably more reliable and gets 30mpg. A new Mazda Miata is just as quick as the original Shelby GT350.
That’s the best “classic” car year, in terms of Modern cars 1997 is by far the best year, just look at Toyota’s lineup: Mk4 Supra, Celica GT4, Ae111 Levin with a Blacktop 20v 4AGE with factory ITBs, The 2nd Gen Century (ie the V12 Century, the only mass produced Japanese car ever with a V12), The Landcruiser, the majority of the Lexus Lineup…. THIS IS COMING FROM ONE MANUFACTURER!!! 😂😂😂 and nearly every Japanese Manufacturer is doing this as well as the Italians as well as the Germans and Americans (albeit to a lesser extent).
@@griffins750 I would certainly agree that the GT350 is cooler and more special than a Miata. The point I'm trying to make is that modern cars offer so much more power than in the 1970s, and they do so while being far more safe, lightweight, fuel-efficient, and reliable. We are absolutely spoiled nowadays in terms of power and performance, and I'd choose it any day.
I say early 90's mainly because EVERY car was actually OK or amazing. Finding a complete pile was kinda hard. Basically everything out of Japan was gold. Even America had some stuff that would not a total pile lol.
Listening to this was so nostalgic and entertaining. Both years brought back memories for me of being a kid and a senior in high school. As much as I love the Gallardo and E46 M3 (black). As much as I loved-and saw the merits-of both arguments, I agree with Kennan's choice and opinion of 1997.
100% with 2005!! Let's also not forget: - Bugatti Veyron - RR Phantom and Maybach 57/62 - Bentley Continental GT - New AMG V12's (SL 65, CL65, ...) - New AMG 55 V8's (E55 W211 and SL55 for example) - 350Z - New S-Class, original CLS etc etc Best era ever!
Thank God! I was already worried we won't get a "Doug argues about Cars" Episode this Weekend. I love listening to Doug & Friends talk about anything Car related, even if i end up disagreeing with him or the Friends sometimes. Great Topic btw! And regarding the BMW M5 with V10 as well as the Audi, definitely agree with Doug here. Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Wow!! I really love these "think pieces". Im genuinely curious, and who better to explore these questions but Doug...and his besty Kennan. Awesome concept
2005 Is the best mordern model year for cars, let me tell you why. Still had the NB Miata S2000 Just got that new retro styled Mustang Still had the Toyota MR2 Spyder One of the last years before Renault really showed its influence over Nissan ect ect...could add more but im lazy
06 6 speed Acura TSX owner here. Doug is right the mid-2000s is the sweet spot IMO. Car handles like it's on rails with double wishbones front and rear, you can drive the snot out of it on a twisty back road without dying, crazy reliable, easy to work on/get parts, and it had a simple intuitive interior. Only gripe i have is it's a rattling squeak fest after 220K miles and nearly 20 years. No cars before or after this era really do it for me. I plan to drive it another 10 years or so until i can get a FK8 Type R for under $20K.
Honestly Im with Doug on this. I love 90s JDM but the rest just dont compete. The Murci and S2000 are also two of my all time favorites. And you of course have the Veyron, RSX and NSX I believe were still out, so many great cars
I'd argue that 2013 takes it. I'm not at all sure what crap was out then, but it had the P1, 918 Spyder, and LaFerrari. What a pinnacle year for the top dogs of the automotive world. Second pick would be an era I could buy a McLaren F1, 911 GT1, and CLK-GTR. If I could go back further, I'd pick 1964 with the first ever Mustang, Ford GT40, Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, and Ferrari 250 GTO all available at the same time.
totally agree. Also the german trios were all still v8's (c63, m3, rs5), the gen 5 viper just came out, corvette c6 zr1, and hot hatches like focus st and golf r/gti were starting to pick up in popularity to bring us the hot hatch market we have right now
Before watching I honed in on 1996 but in general I'd say 95-05 was the golden era. You had a really good cross section of performance, analog engagement, reliability and efficiency. Before 95 you slide into malaise and after 05 you slide into reliability issues caused by the new fuel economy and emissions regs.
2000 was a bit of a sweet spot. Can't comment on any of the American cars, but it was the last of the 90s as well as the beginning for the future. R34 GTR, facelifted FD RX7, tommi mak evos, last year gc8 wrx sti, later spec supras, aristos, JZXs, altezza/is200/is300, s2000, nsx, last year for DC2 integra type R and EK9 civic type R, Audi RS4, E46 M3, E38 M5, Z8, Ferrari 360, 911 turbo, zonda etc etc
The correct answer is 2014 1st gen Audi R8 Lamborghini Huracan Ferrari 458 McLaren P1 Porsche 918 Ferrari La Ferrari Bugatti Veyron was still on sale R35 Gtr C7 Corvette Jaguar F Type 991 911 Alfa 4C AMG GT W222 S Class The list goes on and on, plenty of cool cars still offered in a manual at this time and most of the good autos had moved to dual clutch
Best year for cars is 05, you had the 370z, the R34 skyline was heading out, the Ferrari F430 was out, Ford GT, Carrera GT, E46 M3, which imo is the best looking M3, Bugatti Veyron, Lamborghini Murcielago, Infiniti G35, Infiniti FX35, best year for cars
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I'm with Kennan, 97 was before they started putting CAN-BUS in everything so you couldn't even change the stereo out without some adapter, no touchscreens, everything had a button or a switch or a lever, things finally started having enough power but not too much where now every SUV has 300HP but it's ok because there's 50 airbags in them!
Personally I love 2009. You've got the manual Pontiac G8 GXP, Fiat 500 Abarth, and Tesla Roadster! That could be my dream fleet. Also you've still got the Audi RS6 Avant, CTS-V, Corvette ZR1, Aston Martin V12 Vantage, Murcielago SV
Doug is more on point than he realizes. In 2004 Mercedes blitzed the horsepower wars. Car & Driver tested their most powerful V12 in their smallest car and did 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Thats the first year of the Twin Turbo V12 SL600. The 2005 AMG SL65 would've been even quicker but no street tires could keep up with it's 604hp and 738 lbs/ft of torque. But in 2005 the SL65 laid down an 11.9 quarter mile at 123mph. Mercedes' own V8 SLR Mclaren could only match the SL600's 0-60 [3.6sec] and lost to the SL65's 50-70mph [2.3sec] times. What a year to drive, in 2005.
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Hearing Doug and his friend argue over cars is quickly becoming one of my favorite pieces of content on RUclips. Keep it up.
I can’t lol 😂😂😂
Kennan is an employee of Cars & Bids and a friend. Odd that this is not mentioned
This
@@jtreut who the fuck cares they have great chemistry
It’s lowkey spicy too. Love it.
you guys should do the same concept, but choose the best design year for each model. Maybe list a collection of 10-15 cars and choose their best year based on design
Would love this.
Douglas is not known to be a design guy. You can see it even from the style of his clothes.
Doug would make this weird, Kennan might keep it sane. I'd love to hear the arguments.
THIS
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The first year that came to mind when I read the title was “2005.”
I literally jumped in joy hearing Doug say 2005 as well!
The best thing about those vehicles is that most of them are still relatively obtainable. You can have an iconic sports car before they added all the electronics without spending 6 figures.
Bro me too😊
in 2005 I was 6 years old. This was the age when I started staring at cars out my backseat window. It was truly the best time to be a kid, absolute monsters on the road.
I also think 2004/2005. It was the last year of Audi/VW B5/C5 chassis and also the last year where you could still get a diesel without DPFs in most parts of the western world.
@@rkan2 1.9 pump duse more unreliable than 2.0 TDI
I had skoda Octavia with 1.9 it was horrible to keep up
@@koyamma9575 I wasn't really comparing PD or CR. Neither of them is particularly reliable when comparing to the distributor pump 8 valve engines. :D However VW made both PD and CR with a DPF after 2005 though.. Before that they were ofc better.
"Back then they had a warranty!" bro that made me FOLD 🤣
Doug is the type of guy to eat half a cookie a week.
True, like what they want if they are speaking about cars like 430 and others which cost and issues are on another level and after that they say about m5 v10 being not realible, when it revs into 8,5k rpm and u need to make changes on almost one thing, its like v10 its not Compact car no matter how they want, but okay they don't own one so i get it, after all, who know which cookie is his favourite 😂
@@jakubroszka1021 bro what are you talking about i was like "did this guy reply to the wrong person?" and then at the very end you brought it back to the cookie and i still don't know what you were trying to say
@@jakubroszka1021 you're in your little world
@@jakubroszka1021 this guy is on drugs.
Or a whole pack of Oreos on TST 😂
Doug got this one
Ken really hung up on that Ferrari F50 to win his whole argument😂
Like most people
I like how one time he brought up the F50 Doug immediately clapped back with "but the Mazda RX-8!"
Not to mention that I can't afford the F50.
@@joe97nsx I couldn’t afford most of the cars on Ken’s list either lol, for Doug’s list there’s a few I could afford
CLK-GTR is the best of all of them
How did Doug forget the Bugatti Veyron 🤣
That's what I was thinking!
My thoughts exactly. Absolutely icon
Thank you!!! Can’t believe he forgot the McLaren F1 dethroner
wow that’s a big one, the Veyron was an ICON for so many years. Doug def won that debate
@@fringehouse Bringing up the ‘05 Veyron guarentees bringing up the ‘97 Mclaren F1 GT/GTR
I love how Doug is using a Carrera GT as a cookie tray.
he uses the exhausts as cookie cutters and cooks them on the engine
This has to be 2010. Think about all the special cars that were on the market during that time! Any DuPont Registry Buyers Guide will show you that (what happen to those, miss them). That was the tail-end of the analog sports car, but with restrained modern styling and tech. M3 GTS, 997 911 GT3 RS, LFA, Apollo S, Veyron SS, the various Zondas, the Agera, 458 Italia, Gallardo Superleggera, Murcy SV, Vette ZR1, the return of McLaren with the 12C, Sesto Elemento, One-77, DBS, 918 Concept, SLS, Shelby Super Snake, the return of the Camaro, CX-75, RX-8 R3, 599 GTO, Nissan GTR, Challenger SRT8, 370Z, GranTurismo, XKR, Grand Cherokee SRT8, R8 for the V10 with the FSI, there might’ve even been some rogue 722 SLRs out and about, the Exige 260, TTRS, F-150 Raptor, RS6 Avant, Spyker C8, 8C Spider (yes, it made it to 2010), IS-F and we can go on forever!
There seems to be a lack of 3-pedal cars...
@@joshlutz3017 - Congrats, medal? 🎖
also, you could still buy a V10 M5 and M6, Audi had a V10 S6 and V10 RS6. That was the last call for MODERN cars, but still analog, like BMW 7 series still had buttons and physical stuff but already had big screens and all nice modern technology like adaptive cruise control, headup display or whatever. Even today you could just update the software in that 7 series and it will run car play and other stuff
CX-75 stayed as a concept tho
Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione is another cool one from that year
I think Doug is on to something with '05... the end of an era. I bet in 15 years the current generation of cars will also be looked back on as the glory years of internal combustion.
Doug, the kind of guy who has sleepovers with this guy in 2023
If y’all don’t have sleepovers with your homies then y’all ain’t homies
You don't?
More wit and comedic wisdom from the king of the village idiots. How could a single person be so consistently irrelevant and pitiful? I’d suspect your parents are as disappointed with you as the millions who are assaulted by your inane and repetitive comments.
@MWorld26
I don't have bunk beds or the complete series boxsets of Sister Sister and Kenan & Kel like Doug does.
No, the kinda guy that still asks his parents if he can…
I love how you can find out the order they shot the vids in from how much of the cookies is left on the CGT
- also you gotta give it to doug for spending such a high budget on these swapping Tshirts every time
Doug how could you possibly forget the Buggati Veyron?! Its first model year is 2005 and it's probably the most significant supercar of the modern era.
You should do one like that but list your favorite car from each year. Starting in like 1960.
Most people don't know the old shit cars
@@BollocksToThat 💀
@@BollocksToThat Pretty sacrilegious statement there ngl, I'm 19 as of writing this and I know plenty of people (my age) who know about, and some of them actually love old cars. Also they're not about speed or handling, it's for the appearance and beauty that a lot of old cars have.
Oh, and lets not forget 2005 was the last year for the Aztec….
A well loved, right?
Gotta go with Doug here on this one. When I sat down and tried to figure out my year before watching and I was thinking in the 2003-2006 era had to be in there. Great content here guys.
Facts I was thinking about this idea when I was looking at my hotwheels collection. I noticed I mostly collected 2008-2010 cars. Idk it has to be 2009.
Before tapping the video, I smiled and said ‘2005’. Doug is so Doug. ❤
Bugatti Veyron? How did doug missed that?! XD
Can’t believe he didn’t mention the F1 for 1997 lol
97 was an AMAZING year for Ferrari. 05 was amazing for everything else.
I’m surprised he never mentioned the ‘97 Volvo 850R.
I’m with Doug on this one. We have a 2005 Subaru Baja and Forester XS. Great cars. It was a time that performance was decent, but the cars were still decently analog and not so complex that they break like modern plastic cars. I do love me some 90s cars too (I also have a lifted 96 Impreza and stock 97 Legacy) so both your picks are solid.
As a subaru enthusiast and someone who owns a 95 legacy and also a 98 outback I do love the 90s, however I think 2005 is the correct answer. You could get almost every car in the Subaru lineup with a turbo engine and a manual transmission. The whole XT lineup, legacy GT, spec B, and obviously the Blobeye wrx/sti
Not to mention the last good years of the reliable H6 engines with traditional 5 speed automatics.
You both have great points and cars as examples, but I have to admit, I'm grooving more on '97. The RX-7 may be a stretch, but I'm willing to do that over the RX-8. The 7 was a great car. Not mentioned was that generation Civic. That was the last gen for 4 wheel independent, uneven length,double wishbone suspension.
I think the car design went downhill after 95-96 because extensive computer use and regulations. I have a 6th civic but the 5gen looks better imho. Let's not even talk about the horrible 7gen. Examples that come to my mind are ferrari 355, honda city, nsx (lost the pop-up head lamps), integra, mitsubishi colt, mazda mx5, porsche 911 obviously, almost all french cars...
And the integra type r was huge
Forget the rx8 and mercury cougar 🤢
97 is much better half of dougs arguments against it with boring cars like subaru is pointless because you can import a jdm sti from 1997
I said 1994 because I love my ob1 eg9. No cars were more over engineered then the early to late 90's cars. Best back for buck
2005 known for such amazing cars like the Chevrolet Venture and Uplander
eww
dont forget the PT Cruiser and the Pontiac Aztek
I don't see the Tbird or Aztek as bad marks against the year
@@bipbop3121 is it fun being stupid
@@katherinelehmkuhl8659 we dont care
Cookies are still on the Carrera GT weeks later 😂 (I know this was filmed on the same day)
Doug is talking about all of the great cars from 2005 but he missed the best of them all, the Bugatti Veyron. 1000 horsepower, 253mph, W16 engine. It is a league above all other cars from that era.
This style of video is so fun. I hope you enjoy making these, Doug!
My pick is 2008. I remember going to Lamborghini Las Vegas and Naples Motorsports back then, and seeing brand new LP640's, SLR Mclarens and manual F430's. Not to mention the 997.1, W211 E63 AMG and W221 S65 AMG were still in production.
that is definitely one downside to 2005, Gallardo and Murci are still pre-facelift, but then again Gallardo does have the better sounding, but less reliable engine
Audi R8 was out at that point too. Saved Audi from bankruptcy.
I can’t believe Doug forgot the Bugatti Veyron! But there’s also a huge list of other great cars like the Cobalt SS, GTO, Trailblazer SS, Cayenne Turbo, Cayman, Saleen S7, Zonda, Saleen & Roush mustangs, DB9, C6 Z06, SL65, Koenigsegg CCR, Audi S6 V10, STS-V, XLR-V.
2006 model year is the first that comes to my mind. Ford GT, Corvette C6 Z06, Dodge Charger, Hummer H1 Alpha! Second year of my favorite modern Mustang generation Gen 5. Second year of the great Porsche 997 generation. Ferrari still making one of my favorites the F430. Lamborghini making the Murcielago and the Gallardo! It was an awesome year!
Hummer...really?
I REALLY like the format! YES, do MORE of this!! with all different topics like style, and other things.
I like 2009. I know others will disagree, but you've got: S2000 CR - 370Z - RX8 - R35 - Manual R8 - GT3/GT3RS/GT2 - Could have ordered 599 with manual as last manual V12 Ferrari - Could have ordered California in manual as last ever manual Ferrari - Manual Lamborghinis - C6 ZR1 - Viper - F430 Manual - F430 Scud - 987 Cayman - Challenger - SLR - SL65 Black Series - 997.1 Turbo Manual
Lmao them cookies been there for weeks😂
I feel like he recorded atleast half a dozen videos back to back in his garage so when he needs filler to take a vacation or spend time with his kid he just drops one of these
@@CartierCasey yes he did lol he said it in another video
He records multiple videos at one time when possible so he has time to work on other projects or Cars and Bids or take a vacation, spend time with his wife and baby. This is why you see these garage video with this friend or with Hoovie as these can be prerecorded all at once and then used as filler when he has other obligations or Desiree to take time off.
@@Charlesb88 Desiree 🤩🤩
Also the 2005 had the aston vanquish manual v12, and the db9
I kind of get why Doug only has this one friend LOL. Edit: these videos are lotsa fun! Keep them coming.
Hahahaha this is hysterical. I’m so glad these guys are in their 30’s but actually in their 80’s lol.
I really like the banter of these two and how Doug plays off of this guy. Also the editing with the zooms! Need to see more of these!
1972. Big Bumpers and emissions hadn't kicked in. But car design was in a siblime state. You had the Ferrari Daytona, Lamborghini Muira, BMW 3.0csi and 2002tii, Citroen SM and too many others to mention. To be sure there are many beautiful cars from the 1960's also, but 1972 was a peak year. By the mid-70's, regulations were strangling cars. They eventually recovered, after a fashion, but were never as beautiful or unrestrained again.
True. But even in ‘72 V8’s we’re starting to drop in power drastically.
I respectfully disagree. Cars back then got you WAY less power for the money. If you wanted to do 0-60 in the 5-second range, you needed to be a baller that could afford a Porsche 911. Today? You can do it with a base Mustang that's considerably more reliable and gets 30mpg. A new Mazda Miata is just as quick as the original Shelby GT350.
That’s the best “classic” car year, in terms of Modern cars 1997 is by far the best year, just look at Toyota’s lineup: Mk4 Supra, Celica GT4, Ae111 Levin with a Blacktop 20v 4AGE with factory ITBs, The 2nd Gen Century (ie the V12 Century, the only mass produced Japanese car ever with a V12), The Landcruiser, the majority of the Lexus Lineup…. THIS IS COMING FROM ONE MANUFACTURER!!! 😂😂😂 and nearly every Japanese Manufacturer is doing this as well as the Italians as well as the Germans and Americans (albeit to a lesser extent).
@@michaelfjmusicSpeed isn’t everything… The experience of driving an original GT350 is why they’re so special…
@@griffins750 I would certainly agree that the GT350 is cooler and more special than a Miata. The point I'm trying to make is that modern cars offer so much more power than in the 1970s, and they do so while being far more safe, lightweight, fuel-efficient, and reliable. We are absolutely spoiled nowadays in terms of power and performance, and I'd choose it any day.
Dual sliding doors on the minivan was a game changer
I say early 90's mainly because EVERY car was actually OK or amazing. Finding a complete pile was kinda hard. Basically everything out of Japan was gold. Even America had some stuff that would not a total pile lol.
I love that Doug cashes out on cars and bids and now is just making all the content he’s always wanted to, with his friends
Such an interesting video/discussion! Thanks Doug (and friend)!
I'm going with 1992
McLaren F1, Porsche 959, Ferrari F40, RUF Yellowbird, 500E, E34 M5, E30 M3, 190E 2.5-16V, Porsche 964 Turbo, E31 8 series, R32 GT-R, Lamborghini LM002, Lancia Delta Integrale and the list goes on and on...
Doug is the type of guy that gives his friend a Doug Score!!! 🙄
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2005 The F-22 Raptor Entered Service
And The MC12 Was Kicking Butt On The Track
Kennin you forgot to mention the Maclaren F1 was in pro until 98
I did a Google search just to make sure. F1 was 92-98. How did they not mention the F1
1995 - Aston Martin Virage Vantage V600, Bugatti EB110 GT, Bugatti EB110 SS, Mclaren F1, Mclaren F1 LM, Corvette ZR1, Cizeta Moroder V16T, Dodge Viper RT/10, Ferrari F40, Ferrari F40 Competizione, NSX Type-R, Diablo SV, Lotec C1000, 993 GT2, 968 Club Sport, Vector M12
I'm going 2004...ford gt, carrera gt, ford mustang cobra, porsche 997 911, BMW e46 m3, honda s2000...there were a lot
... lest we forget the rare, ultimate version of the ultimate sports car, the 2004 MazdaSpeed MX-5 Miata. 👌
I agree with Doug about 2005 being the best year. But, the CLK-GTR was a masterpiece, a legend, an icon.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention the Zonda F
Listening to this was so nostalgic and entertaining. Both years brought back memories for me of being a kid and a senior in high school. As much as I love the Gallardo and E46 M3 (black). As much as I loved-and saw the merits-of both arguments, I agree with Kennan's choice and opinion of 1997.
The 2005 Fiesta ST had a 2.0L Twin-Cam naturally aspirated engine
and the Focus a 2.5L turbo charged 5-cylinder, fun times
@@treles Truely an epic time for the fiesta and focus
COOOKIIEEE! Always look forward to cookie time with Doug, and Kennen.... and Hoovy!
2008-9 was pretty dope.
I love you doing shows with this guy Doug it’s great for you to really show off your personality. It’s lotta fun to watch.
1986. The 288 GTO what is in the middle of its production years, Countach still in it’s prime, and 959 just introduced
And that's the list of all best cars in '86 😛
Grand National too
Love these videos of you just sitting down with a buddy and talking cars!
Doug: Japanese sports cars were going away in 1997 except for MK4 Supra
The R33, S14, 180SX, 300ZX, NSX, EVO IV, RX-7: Allow us to introduce ourselves
NA Miata: "Am I a joke to you?"
@@mworld2611 NA Miata did finish production in 1997, NB started in 1998
100% with 2005!!
Let's also not forget:
- Bugatti Veyron
- RR Phantom and Maybach 57/62
- Bentley Continental GT
- New AMG V12's (SL 65, CL65, ...)
- New AMG 55 V8's (E55 W211 and SL55 for example)
- 350Z
- New S-Class, original CLS
etc etc
Best era ever!
Doug schooling his friends on cars!! Great video!
Thank God! I was already worried we won't get a "Doug argues about Cars" Episode this Weekend. I love listening to Doug & Friends talk about anything Car related, even if i end up disagreeing with him or the Friends sometimes.
Great Topic btw! And regarding the BMW M5 with V10 as well as the Audi, definitely agree with Doug here.
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Wow! My current garage consists of a 97 M3 & 05 corvette
Wow!! I really love these "think pieces". Im genuinely curious, and who better to explore these questions but Doug...and his besty Kennan. Awesome concept
2009 for sure, they had to actually make really good cars that people would buy even in a bad economy
'97 also had a mid-engine 5 speed AWD first gen Toyota Previa
2005 Is the best mordern model year for cars, let me tell you why.
Still had the NB Miata
S2000
Just got that new retro styled Mustang
Still had the Toyota MR2 Spyder
One of the last years before Renault really showed its influence over Nissan
ect ect...could add more but im lazy
I enjoy these videos because i like the discussions, but i also learn heaps of new things
Doug is the type of guy to have a startup chime as his ringtone
06 6 speed Acura TSX owner here. Doug is right the mid-2000s is the sweet spot IMO. Car handles like it's on rails with double wishbones front and rear, you can drive the snot out of it on a twisty back road without dying, crazy reliable, easy to work on/get parts, and it had a simple intuitive interior. Only gripe i have is it's a rattling squeak fest after 220K miles and nearly 20 years. No cars before or after this era really do it for me. I plan to drive it another 10 years or so until i can get a FK8 Type R for under $20K.
I agree with doug, 2005 is one of the best years for cars
one of my favourite cars (Daihatsu Copen) was available in 05
We all knew 2005 was his most obvious choice. Because it’s the correct choice.
Doug is the type of guy to compliment Ben something random
Honestly Im with Doug on this. I love 90s JDM but the rest just dont compete. The Murci and S2000 are also two of my all time favorites. And you of course have the Veyron, RSX and NSX I believe were still out, so many great cars
Another great video from the one and only
Kennan
I'd argue that 2013 takes it. I'm not at all sure what crap was out then, but it had the P1, 918 Spyder, and LaFerrari. What a pinnacle year for the top dogs of the automotive world. Second pick would be an era I could buy a McLaren F1, 911 GT1, and CLK-GTR. If I could go back further, I'd pick 1964 with the first ever Mustang, Ford GT40, Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe, and Ferrari 250 GTO all available at the same time.
totally agree. Also the german trios were all still v8's (c63, m3, rs5), the gen 5 viper just came out, corvette c6 zr1, and hot hatches like focus st and golf r/gti were starting to pick up in popularity to bring us the hot hatch market we have right now
1997 get's my vote, too. Don't forget about the McLaren F1 and various pre-merger AMGs, especially the R129 SL❤.
1973.
Lamborghini Miura SV, Ferrari Daytona, Ferrari Berlinetta Boxer, De Tomaso Pantera, Maserati Bora, BMW 2002 Turbo, Lancia Stratos, Porsche 911 RS 2.7, BMW 3.0 CSL, Mercedes 300SEL 6.3,
Kennan was awesome! His sarcasm and humor had me laughing out loud and really knows his stuff. Please feature him more often!
Facts he's funny
You got your wish with Kennan. So what do you think now?
The e36 m3 we had stateside was a neutered s52b32 variant. E46m3 had the same engine in the US as Europe
Hes smokin crack 430 one of the best 2000s ferraris
Before watching I honed in on 1996 but in general I'd say 95-05 was the golden era. You had a really good cross section of performance, analog engagement, reliability and efficiency. Before 95 you slide into malaise and after 05 you slide into reliability issues caused by the new fuel economy and emissions regs.
I knew that Doug was gonna choose 2005…
Never thought I’d hear Doug mention the Dodge Intrepid so much. 1997 and 2005 are great picks no doubt. My first thought was 1995.
I’m with Kennan. 97 was the first year of the 5th gen prelude
Nothing like cutting the grass, changing the oil on my truck. Pulling up a lawn chair and a beer an watch my favorite car nerd
Doug is the type of guy to use his Carrera GT as a table for his cookies
2000 was a bit of a sweet spot. Can't comment on any of the American cars, but it was the last of the 90s as well as the beginning for the future. R34 GTR, facelifted FD RX7, tommi mak evos, last year gc8 wrx sti, later spec supras, aristos, JZXs, altezza/is200/is300, s2000, nsx, last year for DC2 integra type R and EK9 civic type R, Audi RS4, E46 M3, E38 M5, Z8, Ferrari 360, 911 turbo, zonda etc etc
Doug the kind of guy who has trainings wheels on his road bike.
The correct answer is 2014
1st gen Audi R8
Lamborghini Huracan
Ferrari 458
McLaren P1
Porsche 918
Ferrari La Ferrari
Bugatti Veyron was still on sale
R35 Gtr
C7 Corvette
Jaguar F Type
991 911
Alfa 4C
AMG GT
W222 S Class
The list goes on and on, plenty of cool cars still offered in a manual at this time and most of the good autos had moved to dual clutch
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Nice.
Best year for cars is 05, you had the 370z, the R34 skyline was heading out, the Ferrari F430 was out, Ford GT, Carrera GT, E46 M3, which imo is the best looking M3, Bugatti Veyron, Lamborghini Murcielago, Infiniti G35, Infiniti FX35, best year for cars
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Who is this Mrs Letton Deb everyone is talking about and how do i contact her directly?
Don’t forget the Hyundai Tiburon came out in 96. Pontiac solstice/Saturn sky, mercury marauder, crown Vic, Buick LaSabre, Town car
I'm with Kennan, 97 was before they started putting CAN-BUS in everything so you couldn't even change the stereo out without some adapter, no touchscreens, everything had a button or a switch or a lever, things finally started having enough power but not too much where now every SUV has 300HP but it's ok because there's 50 airbags in them!
I'm mostly with Doug except I'd go 2007 just for the 997 gt3 and lotus exige
I could be wrong but the last year the RX-7 was sold in the US was in 1995 because after that the RX-7 was no longer being exported to the US
I'd say 2013 ngl. LaFerrari, 918 Spyder, P1, Corvette C7, Huracan, Huayra, Viper GTS, 991 911, 458, 488, and the F12 Berlinetta. Just tons of amazing cars!
This is my favorite video I have watched in a long time.
Love seeing the CGT in the background ❤
Personally I love 2009. You've got the manual Pontiac G8 GXP, Fiat 500 Abarth, and Tesla Roadster! That could be my dream fleet. Also you've still got the Audi RS6 Avant, CTS-V, Corvette ZR1, Aston Martin V12 Vantage, Murcielago SV
Damn doug made me realize how good we had it in 05 crazy time we lived in so many options and so much variety at every price point
Doug is more on point than he realizes. In 2004 Mercedes blitzed the horsepower wars. Car & Driver tested their most powerful V12 in their smallest car and did 0-60 in 3.6 seconds. Thats the first year of the Twin Turbo V12 SL600. The 2005 AMG SL65 would've been even quicker but no street tires could keep up with it's 604hp and 738 lbs/ft of torque. But in 2005 the SL65 laid down an 11.9 quarter mile at 123mph. Mercedes' own V8 SLR Mclaren could only match the SL600's 0-60 [3.6sec] and lost to the SL65's 50-70mph [2.3sec] times. What a year to drive, in 2005.
Doug! We need more of these! An entire podcast a week of these!