Very interesting comparison, thank you! I've never been particularly into 50mm. I usually shoot 35 or 85, but man, that GM is tempting.. Hopefully Sony will come with a 85mm f1.2 soon!
Honesty, I have the Sony 50mm f/1.2 G-Master and I use it more than my 85mm Sigma DG DN Art. I had once owned the 85mm G-Master, but I borrowed my friend’s Sigma and fell in love with the reliability of the autofocus. Anyway, once I got the 50mm, that all changed. It’s the perfect balance between 35mm and 85mm. With my A7R IV, I can crop in significantly without quality degradation. I love it.
Thanks for the comparison. I’d like to see you compare the 50 gm with the new 85 gm someday. Since I love my 16-35 gm and 720 gm, I am tempted to have the 50 mm to complete the lens and also use crop mode for portrait.
Hey Magic this is awesome! Would you compare the latest 50/1.4 on APSC with 85/1.4. I am seriously thinking about selling my 85/1.4 and buy a 50/1.4. 50/1.2 is too heavy for me.
If you use these lenses on A7R3, A7R4 and A1 that will be quite good. A7R3 in crop mode will give you almost 18mp, 26.7 mp for R4 and 22.2 for A1, R4 in crop mode has higher resolution than A6600 and A1 is almost there as well. I use R4 to shoot wild life in crop mode, it does lost a bit of focus tracking but when the subject is in focus it is quite a bit sharper than my fuji apsc camera which use the same image sensor as Sony apsc camera.
You did what I'd like to study with the new DG DN both f/1.4 : 20mm "vs" 24 : Photographe @ widest aperture (and, say at f/5.6) a big variety of subjects (including some and single people, 'layered" and same plane, with out of focus subject recognizable objects etc) "esthetically composed"(!) only with the longer (!), 24mm, on trypod. Then double each shot by changing only the lens to 20mm (not coming forward with the tripod, nor any changes, so just added "unnecessary" surrounding to the composition). Then in postprocessing, for instance imported as layers in Photoshop and then automatically allign layers : that should deform the 24mm to match the 20mm, I guess, interesting by itself - And then "cut off' the 20 mm's "excess", - and compare (pixel-count percent difference, bokeh, perspective compression. Or first in Lightroom with individully made Lenscorrections to ouer own best liking, then crop the 20mm and comparing (or only now, adding the Photoshop autoallign - for "funn").
I opted to buy the 50 1.2 GM instead of an 85mm FF.. with full intention to use it in APSC mode most of the time & use it as an actual FF50mm if the space is limited or if I need the full sensor for darker environments. All for flexibility, F1.2 just seems so impractical by itself. I just found 85mm to be too tight too often indoors (coming from the APSC Sigma 56 1.4) & found that I stopped down to F1.6-1.8 (APSC) anyway since there is such a thing as too much blur. I'm actually happy with the Sigma 56mm 1.4 in terms of sharpness, rendering, & size... its just that you are kind of forced to stop down to F1.8 to reduce chromatic aberations to an acceptable degree & F2.2 to make it un-noticeable. I kinda wish you better kept the subject the same size throughout the shoot. Given that it was almost the same image, I found that I just preferred the images where the subject was a bit bigger in the frame... which affects the composition & deadspaces and I can't screen that out to compare the quality & tone of the lenses. I mean when I take pictures I usually fit the subject in the frame in a desirable way & the background just follows (not to mean that I don't include it in the composition & make sure to remove unwanted elements in the background, just that it is secondary to the subject's position & size in the frame―in my process atleast). I kind of felt that you either just tried to maintain the background composition more or maybe just kept the tripod in the same location & used crop mode. When composition is king, I can't really filter out which I like better in the side-by-side when one just obviously frames the subject better. Edit: Here are my picks. 1st Pic: 85mm (85mm subject was bigger in frame) 2nd Pic: Probably 85mm for the subject.. but 50mm background composition was better making it an overall better image ..the images were probably not shot from the same direction. (85mm subject was bigger) 3rd & 4th pic: 50mm (the subject size & background composition was pretty much the same in these two.. but I think the slight changes in the subject's pose might have affected my pick.) 5th pic: 85mm (85mm subject was bigger in the frame) 6th pic: 50mm (50mm subject wasbigger in the frame)
Thanks for your input! Yeah I agree with you and composition, that’s why in the first part it’s tripod and exact same position of camera-subject-background and then in second batch of photos I went for framing the same way, so subject is the same size in each photo.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer Yeah, I noticed that the method wasn't exactly the same for all the photos. I put an edit at the end of my comment for my picks per set if that helps to clarify why I think my picks were much more heavily influenced by the framing.
So on a a6100 it should do better? because it has 24 mpx. I'm planning to go to an event with a zoom lens all terrain on my a7iv and the 50 or 35, or both on the a6100 as my second camera.
Interestingly. But I prefer 1 body with 50/1.4 and another with 85/1.4. The 50/1.2 is an amazing lens, but the 50/1.4 is great and a quarter kilo lighter.
That is actually not correct. Compression depends only on the distance from the background. If you’re standing in the same position, the same distance from the background and have the same angle of view (so let’s say 50 in crop being 75 and 75 on full frame), the compression will be the same.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer when you say the 50 cropped looks like a 85 1.8 you mean not in a formal sense? Even cropped the 50 remains a 1.2 although there are endless debates about this
Why diid You not mention the actual OBVIOUS GM 85mm replacement* for those who know the GM mark one is pushed way back by it ? Response: Classic YT influencer sloppiness for whom a straightforward clip concept is better than true critical thinking? (Yes; a GM85Mark2 will have to be much better than the small and "cheep" and optimally build DGDN f1.4 Sigma - witch is difficult to imagine..but hey.. the GM50 certainly did winn me over (the Planar. The GM35f1.4 did not, over the rendering of the DG DN f1.2 that I value to much)
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Awesome series, I’m glad someone’s doing these comparisons!
Glad you like them!
exactly what i was thinking but never thought there would be a vid about it, nice job thank you
Very interesting comparison, thank you! I've never been particularly into 50mm. I usually shoot 35 or 85, but man, that GM is tempting.. Hopefully Sony will come with a 85mm f1.2 soon!
Honesty, I have the Sony 50mm f/1.2 G-Master and I use it more than my 85mm Sigma DG DN Art. I had once owned the 85mm G-Master, but I borrowed my friend’s Sigma and fell in love with the reliability of the autofocus.
Anyway, once I got the 50mm, that all changed. It’s the perfect balance between 35mm and 85mm. With my A7R IV, I can crop in significantly without quality degradation. I love it.
Wow this was the exact video i was hoping somebody did!! Thank you!
Thanks for the comparison. I’d like to see you compare the 50 gm with the new 85 gm someday. Since I love my 16-35 gm and 720 gm, I am tempted to have the 50 mm to complete the lens and also use crop mode for portrait.
Absolutely love these videos Magic. Cheers from Toronto!
Thank you for this! Can you compare the 50gm 1.2 with the new 85gm 2 when it’s available?
The 50 1.2 GM is a sensational lens - very expensive but the best lens I have
Soooooooo wish they’d announce the 85mm 1.2 already!! LOVE the 50mm 1.2!
Haha I’m waiting for that too!!
Really a 1.2? When?
The resolution on the GM lenses is so high that they look great even on an apsc camera. Never seen this comparison before. Thanks.
APSC mode doesn’t adjust the bokeh…
Great idea! Thanks for the video.
Fantastic review buddy! You are a champion 🎉😊
Love your thumbnails and your content more 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Love this comparación, sometimes I’m not sure which lens to bring
Glad you enjoyed the video!
Good comparison and a good idea for Sony R camera
Thanks man!
Compression. 85 makes the subjects tinier.
Nice comparison 👍 You could include the 135GM. I know, i know…but, just for fun 🤩
I wish you stopped down the 85 1.4 to f/1.8 or f/2 to compare the bokeh it produced with the 50 1.2 in a similar frame.
Can you please compare the 50 1.2gm, 85 1.4gm and 135 1.8gm please to be able to decide.
Hey Magic this is awesome! Would you compare the latest 50/1.4 on APSC with 85/1.4. I am seriously thinking about selling my 85/1.4 and buy a 50/1.4. 50/1.2 is too heavy for me.
If you use these lenses on A7R3, A7R4 and A1 that will be quite good. A7R3 in crop mode will give you almost 18mp, 26.7 mp for R4 and 22.2 for A1, R4 in crop mode has higher resolution than A6600 and A1 is almost there as well. I use R4 to shoot wild life in crop mode, it does lost a bit of focus tracking but when the subject is in focus it is quite a bit sharper than my fuji apsc camera which use the same image sensor as Sony apsc camera.
If I wasn’t married, I would buy both, but I want one of these two. Great video. I am a rookie, and needed this info.
You did what I'd like to study with the new DG DN both f/1.4 : 20mm "vs" 24 :
Photographe @ widest aperture (and, say at f/5.6) a big variety of subjects (including some and single people, 'layered" and same plane, with out of focus subject recognizable objects etc) "esthetically composed"(!) only with the longer (!), 24mm, on trypod.
Then double each shot by changing only the lens to 20mm (not coming forward with the tripod, nor any changes, so just added "unnecessary" surrounding to the composition).
Then in postprocessing, for instance imported as layers in Photoshop and then automatically allign layers : that should deform the 24mm to match the 20mm, I guess, interesting by itself - And then "cut off' the 20 mm's "excess", - and compare (pixel-count percent difference, bokeh, perspective compression.
Or first in Lightroom with individully made Lenscorrections to ouer own best liking, then crop the 20mm and comparing
(or only now, adding the Photoshop autoallign - for "funn").
You think using the center portions of the inage in ApSC modewould crop out chromatic abberations comma and astigmatism?
I recently bought 50/1.2 GM and my Batis 85/1.8 became useless 😀
I still have Batis 135/2.8 because it's still the best lens from Batis line up.
I opted to buy the 50 1.2 GM instead of an 85mm FF..
with full intention to use it in APSC mode most of the time & use it as an actual FF50mm if the space is limited or if I need the full sensor for darker environments. All for flexibility, F1.2 just seems so impractical by itself.
I just found 85mm to be too tight too often indoors (coming from the APSC Sigma 56 1.4) & found that I stopped down to F1.6-1.8 (APSC) anyway since there is such a thing as too much blur. I'm actually happy with the Sigma 56mm 1.4 in terms of sharpness, rendering, & size... its just that you are kind of forced to stop down to F1.8 to reduce chromatic aberations to an acceptable degree & F2.2 to make it un-noticeable.
I kinda wish you better kept the subject the same size throughout the shoot. Given that it was almost the same image, I found that I just preferred the images where the subject was a bit bigger in the frame... which affects the composition & deadspaces and I can't screen that out to compare the quality & tone of the lenses. I mean when I take pictures I usually fit the subject in the frame in a desirable way & the background just follows (not to mean that I don't include it in the composition & make sure to remove unwanted elements in the background, just that it is secondary to the subject's position & size in the frame―in my process atleast).
I kind of felt that you either just tried to maintain the background composition more or maybe just kept the tripod in the same location & used crop mode. When composition is king, I can't really filter out which I like better in the side-by-side when one just obviously frames the subject better.
Edit:
Here are my picks.
1st Pic: 85mm (85mm subject was bigger in frame)
2nd Pic: Probably 85mm for the subject.. but 50mm background composition was better making it an overall better image ..the images were probably not shot from the same direction. (85mm subject was bigger)
3rd & 4th pic: 50mm (the subject size & background composition was pretty much the same in these two.. but I think the slight changes in the subject's pose might have affected my pick.)
5th pic: 85mm (85mm subject was bigger in the frame)
6th pic: 50mm (50mm subject wasbigger in the frame)
Thanks for your input!
Yeah I agree with you and composition, that’s why in the first part it’s tripod and exact same position of camera-subject-background and then in second batch of photos I went for framing the same way, so subject is the same size in each photo.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer
Yeah, I noticed that the method wasn't exactly the same for all the photos.
I put an edit at the end of my comment for my picks per set if that helps to clarify why I think my picks were much more heavily influenced by the framing.
So on a a6100 it should do better? because it has 24 mpx. I'm planning to go to an event with a zoom lens all terrain on my a7iv and the 50 or 35, or both on the a6100 as my second camera.
Interestingly. But I prefer 1 body with 50/1.4 and another with 85/1.4. The 50/1.2 is an amazing lens, but the 50/1.4 is great and a quarter kilo lighter.
cool video
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Very good choice 💃🏼🕺🏻
Great comparison. 85mm is just butter.
APS-C mode doesn’t give you the compression of the cropped focal length. I try to never use APS-C mode.
That is actually not correct. Compression depends only on the distance from the background. If you’re standing in the same position, the same distance from the background and have the same angle of view (so let’s say 50 in crop being 75 and 75 on full frame), the compression will be the same.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer I’ve not experienced that to be true but at open to being wrong.
@@MagicWeddingPhotographer when you say the 50 cropped looks like a 85 1.8 you mean not in a formal sense? Even cropped the 50 remains a 1.2 although there are endless debates about this
Sigma 85 1.4 is the best!
Bigger sensor is always better, imo.
I bought Sony A7SIII from someone and he included 50mm GM for free, I didn’t know this lens was that good
Why diid You not mention the actual OBVIOUS GM 85mm replacement* for those who know the GM mark one is pushed way back by it ? Response: Classic YT influencer sloppiness for whom a straightforward clip concept is better than true critical thinking?
(Yes; a GM85Mark2 will have to be much better than the small and "cheep" and optimally build DGDN f1.4 Sigma - witch is difficult to imagine..but hey.. the GM50 certainly did winn me over (the Planar. The GM35f1.4 did not, over the rendering of the DG DN f1.2 that I value to much)
This is a dumb comparison. Need to see comparison between both lenses with same framing and composition in full frame.