I love how the "anti-air" wraith has the slowest gun ever designed to shoot down high speed fighter jets. A snail in covered in peanut butter travels faster than those things XD
I think they're meant to be like flak guns. So they explode and leave plasma in the air. The covenant have giant needle guns for actually hitting aircraft.
Pretty sure they are meant to be utilized in massive numbers against slower aircraft AKA frigates or pelicans. I'd hate to be a fleet commander trying to put frigates on the ground with about 20 of those just blanketing the sky lol
Basically, the Scorpion is superior. Shouldn't be surprising. The projectile flies faster, and doesn't arc like the mortar. You pretty much can't dodge it, and the Halo 3 Scorpion is fast enough to out-maneuver any mortars that come its way, unless it gets too close. The only way you'll lose in a Scorpion is if you miss, and AI don't miss.
I think the only thing that wraiths are good at is long range attacks (in the video, many of them were going for tanks far away) and due to plasma tech, I think they'd be better for taking out squads of marines.
Hokiebird428 True, unfortunately the Scorpion isn't that great in multiplayer (against any halfway decent team). It's too slow and gets plasma stunned too often at which point it's easy to board or blow up with grenades. Absolute beast in campaign though.
I agree, at least for in this game. They made it better in halo 4 though. It has a bigger blast radius, I think. It also can ram other vehicles and destroy them. The scorpion in that game is also way slower, so it has the speed advantage too.
Not always. In canon Covies win ground, air and especially space. In game for some reason they overpower human weapons like the scorpion. I guess it's to make people feel like humans are strong so they play more but realistically humanity would be obliterated. The only reason humans even won the war was because the Elites broke off and wrecked havoc inside the covenant (and of course the Spartans)
snyc42 I wouldn't really call it winning the war. No one would in any normal logical society but 343i had to make Humanity seem like the top dogs even reviving dead worlds saying they were never glassed. If anything the Elites won the war an we had a truce with them. Rtas was able about to turn Earth into a crystal ball.
SuperKnalxz Grey Definetely read in one of the books (I think it was Halo: The Fall of REach) that one of the characters specifically said that the humans can hold ground on their own, but even if they did, the covenant would resort to air attacks and winl
It's interesting that even though the covenant have superior technology, they still cannot defeat the good old Scorpion Tank! I'm sure Bungie intentionally designed this though... For another video, I'd suggest something involving Enforcers in Halo 2! Great video, Gamecheat!
Rythaze Wraiths have slow projectiles because theyre designed to give you some warning and be dodgeable like things for a single player game tend to be
Rythaze Fighting a scorpion would not be fun. Just imagine jackal snipers from halo 2 legendary, but better in every way. And besides, Wraiths canonically are used more as mortars rather than tanks.
A wraith's official name calls it an assault gun, and those are real life vehicles which are not considered tanks so yes you are correct. assault guns are simply mobile artillery platforms which resemble tanks
Tank beats Ghost! Tank beats Hunter! Tank beats everything! Oh, man, I could do this all day! Awesome vid, you can't beat that 90mm high velocity shell, it's a huge advantage over the AA and mortar of the wraith. Seems like the larger the battles got the more the gap was closed by the wraiths splash damage.
11:55 "No, he's trying to fly the tank." ----- Meanwhile, in the tank: "We're flying the tank!" "What are you talking about? You can't fly a tank, fool!" "Technically we're not flying." "Yeah, that's cause we're falling, fool!"
No wraiths were harmed in this video beacause they did complete nothing except ok never mind I want you to make a mod were you can put buildings I forge world on halo reach
I can see the waith being good in base assaults or large scale battles considering its just one massive mortar, but i''m honestly surprised the covenant never made a tank similar to the scorpion over the course of the war.
Well the only superior covenant weapons when compared to their UNSC counterparts was the sword and the ghost. For some reason it seems like covenant weapons are weaker than their UNSC counterparts.
wraiths lose do to low accuracy, like who came up with the idea for them to be mortars? mortars should be used to infiltrate bases, then we have the anti aircraft wraith, very powerful..... yet they are slower than the scarab gun
Well nothing is loading for me today so I guess I'll watch this tomorrow morning (although I think I already have a pretty good idea as to who will win)! xD Until then I guess I'll just insist on my previous requests: >Enforcers vs anything >Heretics vs anything >Halo 2 Bosses vs anything xP
The Wraiths are not using the hills to their advantage... they have mounted plasma "mortars" which are meant for firing over obstacles, behind cover. Elites are my top favourite characters, but even as great space battle strategists they just want to get up close and personal in the ground battles. Silly Elites... for honour and for glory! Rawr! :D
if a wraith hits, they are more powerful than a tank shot. sadly wraiths in the games always had bad speed and was better at close range (would always hit where you aim, but target would probably see it coming and move.) but in multi player matches were op if you knew how to use em. infantry. ntm a single wraith can do damage to several tanks at once if they r clustered.
Rules of Driving a Wraith: (allegedly) Don’t attack as a group Wait for your squadron mates to be destroyed before attacking Attack in direct line of sight despite have an indirect fire weapon Don’t use your main weapon at close range Close the range and attack with your secondary weapon
In real battle, AI controlled wraith can stay far away from enemy targets and attack beyond visual range with the mortar, they dont have to approach the enemy. But it is difficult for player controlled wraith to shoot far targets accurately because this game have no artillery aiming mode. It works like the SPGs（arty） in WoT, provide indirect fire support behind. I think this game need an artillery aiming mode for player controlled wraith.
VerryLongName a guy (I think his name is zealotsg) did this, and with two hunters and basically they got stunned. (you know how in halo 2 when they get severely damaged, they stand slanted?) so that's what happened. I never saw tartarus kill one of them though, but he hit them a bunch of times. The hunters kept getting stunned and were too slow to melee back.
Realistically if it were actual wraiths like in the lore they would do much better as they would keep a distance and fight smart. The wraith shot arcs, it's not meant to take on heavy armor face to face. They would shoot from afar with cover unless it's infantry. The scorpion fires fast, direct shots that are easy to hit. This is an AI battle so a socrpion ai is better but whether they would win in canon is a different story. And Anti Air wraith my ass those things are dangerous on the ground. Those took out a whole squad of scorpions one round. Those shots are too slow and powerful to hit fast air targets they should stick to ground fighting.
in space the unsc needed a 3 to 1 advantage to have a chance and once the covenant one in the space they would glass the planet the ground battles really didn't matter
It's a glitch that happened in Halo 2 and can be exploited very easily by hitting the tank with an object (most often while in a wraith) in the center directly underneath the tank. There was no advantage of this glitch in matchmaking since it was easier to just use weapons. In Halo 3, they did a much better job at keeping this glitch from happening... though it still happens from time to time like in the video. In this video the tank ran over an object and hit the sweet spot and flew away lol
The only time the Wraths seem to get an advantage is in tight spaces and first shots. The one time the AA Wraths won (and a Scorpion decided their people needed them) was when the battlefield happened to have the right amount of wreckage to make it difficult for the Scorpions to pathfind, while Wraths could strafe around the wreckage. Fun fact, I designed a Invasion Slayer map where the Spartans only had 2 Scorpions, and the Elites had 3 (there were other vehicles, but focusing on tanks), and the Elite side of the map had tons of wreckage to hid behind, and the Spartan side was pretty open. So basically, if you want to win Wrath vs. Scorpion, you have to wait for the Scorpions to come to you, or take cover behind objects, where the plasma cannon's firing arch can give you an advantage. It was pretty balanced, as I also gave both Spartans and Elites good classic Star Wars Battlefront-like loadouts. So, there was never a situation where people were spawn-screwed, since they could spawn with rockets or snipers, but each loadout was balanced accordingly. Spartans didn't have any cloaked classes however, and giving the Elites a couple of clocked classes helped a ton to balance the combat. I can give you a full list of classes, if you'd like.
One thing I've always wanted to see was just one GIANT battle between tons of Spartans with energy swords and tons of elites with energy swords! If you could do that it'd be amazing.
The issue here is that wraiths would be decently effective if they had the ability to target and fire on targets that are not in line of sight. Like I would think Wraiths might have the technology to be able to see through a hillside and get the coordinates and elevation of an enemy vehicle on the other side of a hill. The other option for the Covenant would be having forward oobservers relay enemy target location data to the Wraiths in hiding allowing them to set the correct elevation and velocity to successfully create an arcing mortar shot that should connect with the target area on the other side of the hill without having the Wraith ever being exposed.
The two vehicles are designed for two different things. Scorpions are true anti-armour, they're designed to take out vehicles quick and hard. That's why they tend to beat the crap out of wraiths. Wraiths are more like siege engines, designed to pummel static defences. Or vapourise hundreds of fleeing civilians in your genocidal war. In an open battlefield against other tanks, they're out of their element.
frostyguy1989 no wraiths can beat other tanks in a field just depends on whether the operator can do his job right or not. but u are right on their different uses but they are capable
Imaging if the wraith had the ability to charge upon holding the trigger and the plasma mortar flew at mach 3 for max charge. It would be terrifying. Lol
Well Wraiths basicly are like mortars, good at shooting at infrantry, less so against tanks....AA-Wraith is much the same, except ofc is designed/suited at targeting air targets as well. Covenant might had the edge with their ships and plasma weapons, but Scorpions are vastly superior to any Covenant land vehicle, except the Scarab.
Man I love these ai battles bro, I really appreciate you making them, can you do one where the marines/of at go up against the elites and brutes on foot.
Interesting how even the anti air wraiths have a hard time killing a scorpion, fuel rods have always been vehicle killers. This was fun to watch, but a bit one sided, considering the speed and power of the scorpion projectiles, plus the lack of needing to mortar and all.
Yeah no contest. As much as I love Wraiths, Scorpions are infinitely superior. Lightning fast projectiles, no arcing to worry about, tougher armour and is more agile on rough terrain. Only thing Wraith has going for it is a short speed boost and the mild advantage of maybe hitting a target from behind cover thanks to its arcing shot. Out in the open though, a Wraith will become its namesake quick
So what did we learn? A fast moving, ballistic based weapon is superior over slower moving, energy based weapons. Breaking formation and charging in alone is an excellent way to get yourself killed. Focusing fire/Concentrating firepower kills the enemy surprisingly quickly. The Convanet-well just the AI in general-has no idea how tank warfare works. That this all the time we have class. Study your notes thoroughly. There will be a test tomorrow. Dismissed.
Most human weapons go insanely fast (hitscan if I'm correct). Yet the Covenant weapons shoot so slow. In reality, Covenant technology should theoretically be better. Stronger, less recoil, and faster than bullets. The Covenant Wraith always was a joke. They need an actual vehicle to counter the Scorpion, one that's less suited toward mortar-type shots (Wraith) and more toward shooting straight (a tank).
Tank beats ghost..... Tank beats hunter.... Tank beats everything!
Man, I could do this all day!
Maple Otaku best lines in halo 3
I'm on tsovos highway about east of north someone anyone please respond!!!
I know what the lady's like
Ladies like superior firepower.
I love how the "anti-air" wraith has the slowest gun ever designed to shoot down high speed fighter jets. A snail in covered in peanut butter travels faster than those things XD
zygo0 True but they lock on, and also are pretty intimidating so its great zoning
I think they're meant to be like flak guns. So they explode and leave plasma in the air. The covenant have giant needle guns for actually hitting aircraft.
Pretty sure they are meant to be utilized in massive numbers against slower aircraft AKA frigates or pelicans. I'd hate to be a fleet commander trying to put frigates on the ground with about 20 of those just blanketing the sky lol
zygo0 They honestly need to make Anti-air Wraiths the main battle tank instead of Mortar Wraiths as they are more accurate in a fight.
I'd love to see mods that improve the Wraiths dramatically.
I don't think Covenant AI gets the concept of "Arc Trajectory"
Testsubject276 I don't think the unsc ai understood how to prioritize targets
It is a Bungie staple of making AI's having difficulty with calculating arcs. Ever played Myth?
“I know what the ladies like”
What don't they get abut arc trajectory?
"You should've used the Pythagorean Theorem, BITCH!" - Tank Men
Basically, the Scorpion is superior. Shouldn't be surprising. The projectile flies faster, and doesn't arc like the mortar. You pretty much can't dodge it, and the Halo 3 Scorpion is fast enough to out-maneuver any mortars that come its way, unless it gets too close. The only way you'll lose in a Scorpion is if you miss, and AI don't miss.
Hokiebird428 and reloads faster
I think the only thing that wraiths are good at is long range attacks (in the video, many of them were going for tanks far away) and due to plasma tech, I think they'd be better for taking out squads of marines.
Hokiebird428 True, unfortunately the Scorpion isn't that great in multiplayer (against any halfway decent team). It's too slow and gets plasma stunned too often at which point it's easy to board or blow up with grenades. Absolute beast in campaign though.
It can also fly
I agree, at least for in this game. They made it better in halo 4 though. It has a bigger blast radius, I think. It also can ram other vehicles and destroy them. The scorpion in that game is also way slower, so it has the speed advantage too.
remember UNSC own in ground fights but in space fights they get wrecked unless its 3 to 1
tommy ryan Battle of Viery.
Not always. In canon Covies win ground, air and especially space. In game for some reason they overpower human weapons like the scorpion. I guess it's to make people feel like humans are strong so they play more but realistically humanity would be obliterated. The only reason humans even won the war was because the Elites broke off and wrecked havoc inside the covenant (and of course the Spartans)
snyc42 I wouldn't really call it winning the war. No one would in any normal logical society but 343i had to make Humanity seem like the top dogs even reviving dead worlds saying they were never glassed.
If anything the Elites won the war an we had a truce with them. Rtas was able about to turn Earth into a crystal ball.
SuperKnalxz Grey Definetely read in one of the books (I think it was Halo: The Fall of REach) that one of the characters specifically said that the humans can hold ground on their own, but even if they did, the covenant would resort to air attacks and winl
freddytayam Holding your own and actually fighting are two different things.
I can hold my own against Mike Tison but I will never beat him.
There is a severe lack of "TANK BEATS EVERYTHING!" comments...
Yup
AWW MAN HA I COULD DO THIS ALL DAY
Glaciercano hah
I feel like everyone has watched Saving Private Ryan.
“I know what the ladies like”
"That Human Tank is nearly unstoppable!!"
"Then use our Wraith's new weapon...Gravity Manipulation"
11:53 :D
A ufo xd
“I know what the ladies like”
Eh, that was like the only round they were going to lose anyways in lol
11:50 "I must go. My people need me."
+doc Son lol
Doktor Docson "to infinity and beyond!"
Y e s
Looks like team rocket is blasting off again!!! XD
they should hire those two spartans driving the tank in Fast and the Furious 9
World of Tanks: Year 2552 Edition
LOL! good one!
New DLC tank copter
Artillery rushing heavy tanks that have auto loaders
4 years later and war thunder is still better than that shitty game
@@IHaveSpearHandslol 11:54
"Superior technology"
The covenant ain't shit.
Sergeant Johnson Not the covenants fault Bungie and 343 love pandering to kids obsessed over army men.
"Tank beats everything"
***** we meet again my friend.
David Pena "How does 90mm of Tungsten strike ya?"
Forklifts vs grunts.
YES!
Forklift win
The carnage...
that tank at 11:58 turned into a helicopter
It was glorious
I must go, my planet needs me.
Scorpion: "F*ck dis sh*t I'm OUT!"
as you can see the UNFC is creating a new tank-copter
Oh yeah! *They sure showed that tank whose BOSS!*
How about a scorpion tank vs everything video, eh.
So we can validate the truth of "tank beats everything!" FOR SCIENCE!
Graham Rich "for science, you monster"
SeeFoam42 yes
Redric Pimentel yes
Scorpion: I beat everything!
Scarab: You talkin mad shit for someone within glassing distance.
This this just makes me feel bad for all the times I've died to wraiths...
The only time I die to wraiths is when they're used properly, as mobile artillery platforms.
Only when they boost at you
11:55 And Scorpion driver decides to nope right off to fuckthatshitville.
It's interesting that even though the covenant have superior technology, they still cannot defeat the good old Scorpion Tank! I'm sure Bungie intentionally designed this though...
For another video, I'd suggest something involving Enforcers in Halo 2!
Great video, Gamecheat!
What's funny is that I keep on asking for enforcers, but somehow I feel like they'd end up being underwhelming... xD
josh11735 I noticed you've been asking, so I figured I'd help out!
Rythaze Wraiths have slow projectiles because theyre designed to give you some warning and be dodgeable like things for a single player game tend to be
Rythaze Fighting a scorpion would not be fun. Just imagine jackal snipers from halo 2 legendary, but better in every way.
And besides, Wraiths canonically are used more as mortars rather than tanks.
It would be cool to change it so the Blue Wraith Projectile travels at a flatter trajectory and the AA Wraith gets projectiles that actually move
A mobile artillery platform is *not a tank, and therefore cannot be fairly matched with a Scorpion, thus rendering this competition invalid.
A wraith's official name calls it an assault gun, and those are real life vehicles which are not considered tanks so yes you are correct. assault guns are simply mobile artillery platforms which resemble tanks
CISsuperdroid nerd (jk)
Finally I've been thinking about that!!
Ok Guilty Spark
+DoG THE SEEKER Now I’m imagining his comment being said in Guilty Spark’s voice. Damn you XD
This is the kind of stuff I always wanted from Forge. Custom campaign level building.
Great job on the videos.
Scorpions were always going to win due to their accuracy.
The flying tank had a good tactic
thx
12:01 At least they had each other! Lol
BansheeGun Still a better love story than... you know...
Tank beats Ghost! Tank beats Hunter! Tank beats everything! Oh, man, I could do this all day!
Awesome vid, you can't beat that 90mm high velocity shell, it's a huge advantage over the AA and mortar of the wraith. Seems like the larger the battles got the more the gap was closed by the wraiths splash damage.
I notice the wraiths always miss their shots
Wonder if thats a bug in the ai because even in normal gameplay the wraiths are easy to avoid on foot
They fire way too fucking slow and the scorpions keep moving around
Wraiths require you to pretty much predict where your enemy is going to move to avoid your shot, and AIs just kinda aim at you and fire.
11:55
"No, he's trying to fly the tank."
-----
Meanwhile, in the tank:
"We're flying the tank!"
"What are you talking about? You can't fly a tank, fool!"
"Technically we're not flying."
"Yeah, that's cause we're falling, fool!"
Tank beats everything.
Thank you... so much.
Not everything
This video was late today because my HDD decided to die on me when i needed it most.
Ha your tank was like nope I'm out 11:57
No wraiths were harmed in this video beacause they did complete nothing except ok never mind I want you to make a mod were you can put buildings I forge world on halo reach
That scorpion tank driver may be dead but his gunner is not out of the fight >:)
I see you gave the Spartans or scorpions infinite health
Gamecheat13 HDD left the game!
Halo 2- Spartans with rocket launchers VS. Elites with fuel rod cannons
I can see the waith being good in base assaults or large scale battles considering its just one massive mortar, but i''m honestly surprised the covenant never made a tank similar to the scorpion over the course of the war.
When has anyone preferred a Wraith over a Scorpion?
A few times, you can't role-play with a scorpion.
Well the only superior covenant weapons when compared to their UNSC counterparts was the sword and the ghost. For some reason it seems like covenant weapons are weaker than their UNSC counterparts.
Clash Of Clans Edmonds
Are you aware of Shiela the M808B Main Battle Tank?
It’s fun to change things up from time to time, so sometimes I’ll steal a wraith.
Maldus Alver well that’s because bungie weakens those weapons when the player is using them for some reason
"TANK BEATS EVERYTHING!!! OH MAN I COULD DO THIS ALL DAY"
-Marine #77837241
Umm no scarb beats evrything
His name is Chipps Dubbo
That one tank turned into a helicopter
12:04 I wish it was on a Halo mission...THAT WOULD OF BEEN AWESOME
wraiths lose do to low accuracy, like who came up with the idea for them to be mortars? mortars should be used to infiltrate bases, then we have the anti aircraft wraith, very powerful..... yet they are slower than the scarab gun
+Andrew Bultemaa i agree
+bic boi but if the maortars hit, its like a two shot ko, so they can be annoying in numbers
+Andrew Bultemaa if they aim correctly
Long range
Zelousmarineinspace What?
The editing is really nice now! more of these please :D
Well nothing is loading for me today so I guess I'll watch this tomorrow morning (although I think I already have a pretty good idea as to who will win)! xD
Until then I guess I'll just insist on my previous requests:
>Enforcers vs anything
>Heretics vs anything
>Halo 2 Bosses vs anything
xP
josh11735 We've asked for them for weeks! We just have to keep _Enforcing_ our opinion. Thanks guys I will be here all week.
protocetid Pun of the year folks! xP
Josh my baby, your everywhere
josh11735 Ill see if any of these are good.
Gamecheat13 Cool! Thanks for looking into it! :D
TANK BEATS EVERYTHING
What the hell is wrong with the Wraiths here? They’re usually so good at pasting you the player from beyond line of sight in Halo 3 and ODST.
“Tank beats Ghost, Tank beats Hunter, Tank beats everything!” - Unknown Marine
elites in H3 are freaking terrible... at just about everything
Poly_G Those Halo 2 Elites though...
bubbajoe117 ikr
Brandon?
Random, but are you a Hokiebird fan? I recognize your name
CheddarBacon Yes?
Warthogs vs prowlers (h3) and/or warthogs vs spectres(h2)
Jimmy Selby I miss the Spectre...
12:00 team rocket blasts off agaaaaaain✨
The Wraiths are not using the hills to their advantage... they have mounted plasma "mortars" which are meant for firing over obstacles, behind cover.
Elites are my top favourite characters, but even as great space battle strategists they just want to get up close and personal in the ground battles. Silly Elites... for honour and for glory! Rawr! :D
11:53 XD
"How does 90mm of tungsten strike you?"
Wraith looks like the Trade Federation's Droid tanks
11:51 ...That last scorpion tank blew up with honor.
Halo 4 - IA Battle - Elites vs Prometeans .
Viejo estas en todos los vídeos de Halo que yo veo xd
DAM hahaha ... acosador .
Covenant accuracy never ceases to amaze.
if a wraith hits, they are more powerful than a tank shot. sadly wraiths in the games always had bad speed and was better at close range (would always hit where you aim, but target would probably see it coming and move.) but in multi player matches were op if you knew how to use em. infantry. ntm a single wraith can do damage to several tanks at once if they r clustered.
Rules of Driving a Wraith: (allegedly)
Don’t attack as a group
Wait for your squadron mates to be destroyed before attacking
Attack in direct line of sight despite have an indirect fire weapon
Don’t use your main weapon at close range
Close the range and attack with your secondary weapon
Tank beats grunts! Tank beats brutes! Tank beats hunters! TANK BEATS EVERYTHING! -Marine_6, Halo 3, "The Silent Cartographer"
Grunts beat Wraith. Jacket beats Wraith. Drones beat Wraith. A fricking broken mMngoose can beat a Wraith.
In real battle, AI controlled wraith can stay far away from enemy targets and attack beyond visual range with the mortar, they dont have to approach the enemy.
But it is difficult for player controlled wraith to shoot far targets accurately because this game have no artillery aiming mode.
It works like the SPGs（arty） in WoT, provide indirect fire support behind.
I think this game need an artillery aiming mode for player controlled wraith.
Tartarus vs hunters
VerryLongName A Brute Chief with the fist of rukt vs hunters would be pretty cool.
VerryLongName a guy (I think his name is zealotsg) did this, and with two hunters and basically they got stunned. (you know how in halo 2 when they get severely damaged, they stand slanted?) so that's what happened. I never saw tartarus kill one of them though, but he hit them a bunch of times. The hunters kept getting stunned and were too slow to melee back.
I love how fricken chilled you are the first few seconds was funny
Realistically if it were actual wraiths like in the lore they would do much better as they would keep a distance and fight smart. The wraith shot arcs, it's not meant to take on heavy armor face to face. They would shoot from afar with cover unless it's infantry. The scorpion fires fast, direct shots that are easy to hit. This is an AI battle so a socrpion ai is better but whether they would win in canon is a different story. And Anti Air wraith my ass those things are dangerous on the ground. Those took out a whole squad of scorpions one round. Those shots are too slow and powerful to hit fast air targets they should stick to ground fighting.
at 11:52 that scorpion tank started flipping out!😂👏👏👏👌
Hornets VS. Banshees
for a second you think the wraiths have an actual chance of winning... then you realize there are still five scorpion tanks left that murder them
I will never understand how the covenant were winning the war against humanity
in space the unsc needed a 3 to 1 advantage to have a chance and once the covenant one in the space they would glass the planet the ground battles really didn't matter
Michael Fox and most covenant ground units were actually superior besides a wraith isn’t a tank but an arty
Now i understand why humans won human-covenant war
AI in wraiths are so disappointing. Not firing a majority of the time and missing every shot they do fire by a mile.
took 5 minutes for the normal wraiths to land a single cannon shot
WOW im impressed with the AI driving the tanks.
11:54 WTF HAPPEN???
donde están mis pinches leyes para irme jajajaj
It's a glitch that happened in Halo 2 and can be exploited very easily by hitting the tank with an object (most often while in a wraith) in the center directly underneath the tank. There was no advantage of this glitch in matchmaking since it was easier to just use weapons. In Halo 3, they did a much better job at keeping this glitch from happening... though it still happens from time to time like in the video.
In this video the tank ran over an object and hit the sweet spot and flew away lol
Honestly: Depending on how much you move around and difficulty aside
One Scorpion can take out lots of Wrathes
The only time the Wraths seem to get an advantage is in tight spaces and first shots. The one time the AA Wraths won (and a Scorpion decided their people needed them) was when the battlefield happened to have the right amount of wreckage to make it difficult for the Scorpions to pathfind, while Wraths could strafe around the wreckage.
Fun fact, I designed a Invasion Slayer map where the Spartans only had 2 Scorpions, and the Elites had 3 (there were other vehicles, but focusing on tanks), and the Elite side of the map had tons of wreckage to hid behind, and the Spartan side was pretty open. So basically, if you want to win Wrath vs. Scorpion, you have to wait for the Scorpions to come to you, or take cover behind objects, where the plasma cannon's firing arch can give you an advantage.
It was pretty balanced, as I also gave both Spartans and Elites good classic Star Wars Battlefront-like loadouts. So, there was never a situation where people were spawn-screwed, since they could spawn with rockets or snipers, but each loadout was balanced accordingly. Spartans didn't have any cloaked classes however, and giving the Elites a couple of clocked classes helped a ton to balance the combat. I can give you a full list of classes, if you'd like.
+Tarson Talon Sounds good, to bad the servers are down.
At 11:56 how did that happen
Halo 3 Physics Engine said “fuck this Scorpion in particular”
One thing I've always wanted to see was just one GIANT battle between tons of Spartans with energy swords and tons of elites with energy swords! If you could do that it'd be amazing.
The Covenant really suck at making tanks.
Tanks?
Those are artillery platforms, dumbass.
CT - 7598 yeah rothana on the other hand...
I love how if it wasn't for the wraths terrible accuracy they might have been able to inflict some serious damage on the tanks.
Oh my god he took my suggestion oh my god oh my god oh my god. Im going to have a heart attack!!
Bow before me as if I were a god!!
Is it weird that i actually bowed down?
Completely XD
Heresy
I'm sure you had nothing to do with it
Quenton Millstid harsh... but true
The issue here is that wraiths would be decently effective if they had the ability to target and fire on targets that are not in line of sight. Like I would think Wraiths might have the technology to be able to see through a hillside and get the coordinates and elevation of an enemy vehicle on the other side of a hill.
The other option for the Covenant would be having forward oobservers relay enemy target location data to the Wraiths in hiding allowing them to set the correct elevation and velocity to successfully create an arcing mortar shot that should connect with the target area on the other side of the hill without having the Wraith ever being exposed.
8:19 epic fire
Wow, thought the anti-air wraiths had it in the bag
that last scorpion on one of the rounds flipped out like it was a crashing pelican
The two vehicles are designed for two different things. Scorpions are true anti-armour, they're designed to take out vehicles quick and hard. That's why they tend to beat the crap out of wraiths.
Wraiths are more like siege engines, designed to pummel static defences. Or vapourise hundreds of fleeing civilians in your genocidal war. In an open battlefield against other tanks, they're out of their element.
frostyguy1989 no wraiths can beat other tanks in a field just depends on whether the operator can do his job right or not. but u are right on their different uses but they are capable
Imaging if the wraith had the ability to charge upon holding the trigger and the plasma mortar flew at mach 3 for max charge. It would be terrifying. Lol
How about Scorpions and Wraiths in Halo Reach? I know the Reach AI was a lot more accurate and willing to shoot at close range than in Halo 3.
Moral of the story, Tanks work best in any form of numbers, and Wraiths only succeed in large numbers
This is so awesome, but whatever happened to bonus rounds?
Well Wraiths basicly are like mortars, good at shooting at infrantry, less so against tanks....AA-Wraith is much the same, except ofc is designed/suited at targeting air targets as well.
Covenant might had the edge with their ships and plasma weapons, but Scorpions are vastly superior to any Covenant land vehicle, except the Scarab.
Man I love these ai battles bro, I really appreciate you making them, can you do one where the marines/of at go up against the elites and brutes on foot.
Wraiths are more effective when they stay in the rear and unleash a continuous barrage like a mobile artillery piece.
Interesting how even the anti air wraiths have a hard time killing a scorpion, fuel rods have always been vehicle killers. This was fun to watch, but a bit one sided, considering the speed and power of the scorpion projectiles, plus the lack of needing to mortar and all.
That's the whole reason for these battles... To prove which is better.
Who knew?
11:55 tank operator: what does this button do?
Gunner: FRANK NO!!!!
that little hill affects everything
This is almost like some WWII tank duel were it takes 5 Shermans to take out one Tiger.
Yeah no contest. As much as I love Wraiths, Scorpions are infinitely superior. Lightning fast projectiles, no arcing to worry about, tougher armour and is more agile on rough terrain. Only thing Wraith has going for it is a short speed boost and the mild advantage of maybe hitting a target from behind cover thanks to its arcing shot. Out in the open though, a Wraith will become its namesake quick
It's really awkward to see a tank doge a projectile.
First time I've been in the 301+ club for one of your videos.
Dog that last scorpion starting around 7:20 is op as fuck. Gave those wraiths the bidness
Dude this is awesome thanks for making it
the rounds got better each time for wraiths, and later on they were a force to be reckoned with (though they still lost)
11:53 Lol! Physics went crazy on that part.
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cool ai battle keep making more with gosts and warthogs it will be great to see that
So what did we learn?
A fast moving, ballistic based weapon is superior over slower moving, energy based weapons.
Breaking formation and charging in alone is an excellent way to get yourself killed.
Focusing fire/Concentrating firepower kills the enemy surprisingly quickly.
The Convanet-well just the AI in general-has no idea how tank warfare works.
That this all the time we have class. Study your notes thoroughly. There will be a test tomorrow.
Dismissed.
Wraiths: the stormtroopers of the Halo universe.
Most human weapons go insanely fast (hitscan if I'm correct). Yet the Covenant weapons shoot so slow. In reality, Covenant technology should theoretically be better. Stronger, less recoil, and faster than bullets. The Covenant Wraith always was a joke. They need an actual vehicle to counter the Scorpion, one that's less suited toward mortar-type shots (Wraith) and more toward shooting straight (a tank).
This is what happens when you make your main battle tank a mortar
Scorpions has the power because when they throw the rocket than the rocket goes straight
“Than it is an uneven fight!”