The pure athleticism of Jack's swing is astonishing. The all-over-body coordination, the "bigness" of his swing, the jaw-dropping lower body action that's so unbelievably controlled. Because Jack was a bit overweight coming out of Ohio State, and as he matured his body filled out, people have no idea just what a fantastic athlete the Golden Bear was. As a youngster Jack played baseball, football, basketball, and tennis, in addition to golf. He was good enough at basketball to be recruited to play at OSU. Nicklaus' father, Charlie, had played college football at OSU and then semi-pro football for the team that became the Detroit Lions. He also dominated area tennis, winning several city championships. Both men were exceptional all-around athletes with immense power and elite hand-eye coordination. To this day Jack insists that young people should be encouraged to play multiple sports, rather than concentrating solely on golf or any one activity. The only problem with that is most youngsters aren't blessed with world-class athleticism that makes excellence more realistic to attain.
It's funny that you mentioned the "bigness" of the swing-this discussion came up on a different video of a totally different sport, and I came here to make sure I correctly remembered a particular facet of Nicklaus' swing. Look at the amount of "stretch" he got even in the first half of the backswing-it's easiest to see at 1:31. It means he ended up with a very long swing arc, which amounts to plenty of time to build club head speed through the hitting zone. And while a baseball swing and a golf swing have a lot of differences, Ken Griffey, Jr. had the same kind of "stretch" in his swing-which was why he hit so many home runs with what looked at first to be an almost effortless swing.
Look at him at :15. THAT is power personified! His left side has coiled around a stationary right side to a maximum degree. Look at the extension he gets with his left arm, how high his hands are. Observers - even guys who should know better - claimed Jack had a "flying right elbow." That's garbage. His elbow did not "fly." It's the natural position to accommodate the incredible arm extension, and it's still oriented to his right, not out behind him, a la Freddie Couples or John Daly. The only tiny exception I'll make to your comments is that while Jack's backswing CERTAINLY stored up tremendous energy, it isn't a foregone conclusion that his downswing would generate massive clubhead speed/power. All that's resulted at the top of his backswing is *potential*. IMO, the most impressive of Jack's countless impressive talents, was his AMAZING lower body *explosion* from the top and through impact. Watch his footwork, leg and hip action through the entire down/through-swing. Considering Jack lifted his head slightly at the top of his swing - which means an angle at his knees or hips changed - it leaves me speechless that he was able to gather all that power and deliver the clubhead to the back of a golf ball with world-class precision. Look at all the dynamic movement in his swing, and consider that at the moment of truth everything has to manifest at an area the size of a DIME on the clubface meets the PRECISE middle of the back of a ball measuring 1.68"!!! I"m sorry, folks. But that skill isn't "learned" or developed through hard work. The ability to do that is God-given, and then realized through infinite dedication and in Jack's case, excellent instruction.
I'm happy for you! Don't rest on your Laurel and Hardy's though ok. I want you out there on the range day after day, 6 hours a day. 2 hours minimum chipping and putting. You are allowed to sleep at night though.
He is the best for sure no doubt. But a beautiful swing, I dnt know about that. That is a pretty violent swing lol but he somehow controls it is what matters.
The most underrated gift ,which we all assume is only a little better with exceptional golfers, is hand-eye coordination. To swing like Jack did at a young age and find the absolute center of the clubface, at a perfect angle--even with a stiff-impossible to hit pefect- 1 - Iron; well he could do that probably dozens of times in a row before a slight mishit. It's Lennon/McCartney in their prime...and it's not a recipe that can be copied, it's a gift.
If you take it back more vertical like Jack did, then when the right hip moves out during the start of the downswing, the club naturally lays off and the swing becomes flatter. If you take it back more flat, then the start of the downswing makes the club naturally want to come over the top.
You're exactly right on Nicklaus & Snead. I can't remember the Arizona par-5, but the comment on the 16th at Firestone, I do remember. Unreal. Also, in the 1964 Masters, Nicklaus hit driver, eight-iron slightly over the green on the 15th, then measuring 520 yards. Huge.
Wow, what an athletic golfer. If Jack came along today teaching pros would change so many great things that he did with his swing. For starters they would tell him to keep the left heel on the ground. Watch most of young pros today. They are not free to let their lower body help launch the ball as Jack did. Back then woods were made from wood. Give the Persimmons driver to today's player and they would start being more athletic again. Thanks for posting. Hammer
Lots of laughs at the guy trying to emulate Jack there at the end...I don't recall ever seeing Jack lose his balance and fall back after the shot. Jack was the Master.
It may well be that Jack was the first player to truly bring athleticism into the game, as when watching him, one gets the idea of someone in the middle of dynamic motion, just as much as when watching a discus thrower throw a discus. All others compared to Jack up until his time looked like dart throwers or pool players, and not that they weren't great at what they did - they were!!! But here we're looking at the greatest player of all time in my humble opinion.
My wife was Jacks personal assistant for 2 years at Golden bear in Florida back in 1985 -1987. She has told me that Jack was a great dad and husband and was a very nice boss to work for. Jack has what Tiger will NEVER have....thats CLASS!
To be fair I don't think Tiger was allowed to have class His father dragged him from place to place for tournaments A young black man in a white mans sport .
@@jacktattis Tiger's not 'Black'. He's only half Black. The neotenous Chinese part probably contributed to his earlier great flexibility. Added to that is the hybrid vigour arising from his very widely separated ancestry, SS African and Chinese being the widest apart of all the races.
Reading a 10 year comment is NOTHING like replying to it. Have you read an old book like Huckleberry Finn or Moby Dick? Those books are well over a hundred years old and people still read them today. Responding to a 10 year old comment is entirely different. The original poster may be dead or doesn’t even use RUclips anymore
I have never seen a club accelerate through impact like that. You can't see that in full speed. It's crazy. It looks like the clubhead speed doubles through the impact zone.
Jack would make people faint. So would Sam Snead. Jack once reached that 630-yard 16th hole at Firestone with, as he put it, "two well-hit 3-woods." There's a plaque on a par-5 in Arizona (I can't remember the course) saying "From this spot, Jack Nicklaus scored double eagle. Club: 8-iron." Think about that for a second.
In 1956 at the Canada Cup in Melbourbe Australia 601 yards Driver Long Iron Putt The two to the green were magnificent. The iron never went more than 10ft off the deck I saw Jack and Arnie have a shoot out of the 17 th at the L;akes in Sydney in the 70s Jack won by about 5 metres Arnie went in the water Sam was also in the tournament, in his 60s and was still a great hitter tee to green
He didn't start the downswing, with his knees, nor did he try to turn on the downswing. He took himself off balance, at transition and allowed the pull of gravity, to shift the weight of the rotating mass onto the left side. The speed of gravity, is the only constant, we have and both the rotation and the arms falling into the slot, ensures the the arms are moving in phaze with the rotating mass , which ensures that the clubhead is mechanicaly coupled to the whole of the mass, at impact. If we do not allow the powerless arms to float to the top and try and move the clubhead with either intentional rotation or applied arm movement, both with be out of phaze with one another and the clubhead we be decoupled from the rotating mass. Surrender to gravity folks; just as Jack did . Always remember less is more and the real secret is that there isn't one, in the fact that you switch off the conscious brain at transition and wait for the " Lizard " brain to pull you through. Question, have you ever caught a falling object, without even thinking about it ? Well that's the part of the brain, that you need to use, in order to play good golf !!!! The secret, is to fall of vertical , just like Jack . Good luck 😅😅😅
Great video! Intangibles that Jack has over Tiger IMO are swing tempo & distance control. The latter as a result of the former. When comparisons are made between Jack & Tiger, this rarely seems to come up. Hogan & Jones (obviously Snead) had super tempo as well, but Jack had more overall power. When asked what Jack's greatest strength was, Tom Watson immediately said swing tempo.
When you watch it. He tends to move his head to where the left eye looks down at the ball. Either at the takeaway. Or just before. Other than that it stays pretty much in the same place until he starts to power through the ball. All that body movement, and the head stays the same. Pretty cool.
Persimmon has sort of a linear sweet spot which forces these guys into some awkward positions (and small drivers are easier to pop up). His leg action may have got a little looser over the years from time spent deep sea fishing. Your balance center in your inner ear can get a little thrown off and tilt vertigo may creep in. With modern equipment he might not have had the hip problems he later developed so it is still a good swing to learn from for really athletic people.
@jackhon I want to add: it is very important to take lessons from a pro. When I take lessons, I get the right feedback from a guy who is an expert of the game. That has helped me a lot! Looking at these videos is Ok, but it is sometimes difficult to know if you make mistakes. I did a lot of mistakes, but with the feedback from the pro I try to improve my game and avoid mistakes.
Jack had a swing speed of 118 at the age of almost 60. It was the only time he had it recorded. Jack won a driving contest hitting it 340 something with a old golf ball, persimmon wood driver with a steel shaft much shorter than todays drivers and weighed around 40g more. They estimate his swing speed to be 126-133 in his prime.
@@cdog2331 He would average 340-350 with that swing at least with todays drivers and balls. He was hitting it 300 yards sometimes with those clubs and balls.
Long drive champs, top out at around 150 mph. Jack did not swing that fast with a 43" steel shafted driver. End of discussion. He might have swung around 120 to 125 mpg with that driver, which is still very impressive. Considering Tiger gained 6 mpg when switching to a 45" graphite driver, lets assume the same happened to Jack. The most efficient driver 2019 on average was Keegan Bradley with 2.555. If we assume Jack was as efficient and we assume Jack swung around 120 with his 43" steel shafted driver he would swing a modern driver about 5-6 mpg faster. Lets be conservative and say he wound swing a modern driver 120, we get 120 mph x 2.555 = 306 yards carry. If he swung that old steel shafted driver 125 mph (which is about where Tiger swung his old 34.5" steel shafted driver (Titleist 975D)), Jack would carry a modern ball with a modern driver about 319 yards. Now Tiger averaged 323 yards off the tee, the week he won the masters in 97. Which would require him to average a minimum of 123 mph with his driver at the time. Tiger has never been a great driver, nor the most efficient, so he probably swung 125+ mph that week. Give 97 Tiger a modern club, he would swing it around 130-131 mph. So he would be about as long off the tee as Cameron Champ is! Incidentally, 97 Tiger and Champ have very similar swings! Now I don't think anyone knows exactly how fast Jack swung, but it would seem he was the fastest on tour... what ever we believe, if we take what we believe his swing speed was back then, we can add about 5 mph for faster swing with modern equipment and multiply that with 2.555 to get a reasonable approximation of Jacks carry distance with modern clubs! To sum up (Old club swing speed + 5 mph with modern club) x 2.555 = modern carry distance
@@maxcaysey2844 Jack had his swing speed measured at 118mph at 59 years old in 1998 !! to compare a tour player to a long drive contestant is ridiculous !! fairways these days have heaps more run ! Nicklaus in his prime would be up there with the longest TOUR players of today. see how many current tour players could consistantly hit a persimmon wood in the tiny sweetspot !
Jack had the most beautiful "big swing" ever. See 0:39. Probably the most beautiful "small swing" would be Ben Hogan... Tight... tight-tight as Tuco would say.
They who says that these Champs (like Jack N, Sam S, Tom W and other) golfswing are obsolete and out of date are wrong. This is a real powerful golfswing to challange every pro of today.
Wow amazing.. but he didn't really have what you'd call a flat back would you? you can see why he had neck issues later on with all that speed/whip at the bottom of the swing. SO much power!
@jackhon I will never be a master in golf, I just love the game. So can I advice? I don't know. But as Sam S., Phil M., Jack N and some other masters, for example lift their left foot heal on the backswing. Myself I have tried to copy Ben H.'s swing (see= Ben Hogan Golf Swing on YT). To start with the hip. That has helped me a lot. I trust Jack N.'s words. All swings are the same movement. I'm just a glad amateur who wants to improve my golf. And unfortunately I have only one eye to see with.
If you analyze the swings of professional golfers closely they appear to be very different. The grip (apart from locking vs. overlap) is almost universally the same as is the body's overall position at impact.
I’m sure they can figured out somehow with computer analysis how fast Jack swung his driver back in the day. My bet he would be right up their with today’s players
At 58 yrs old his driver swing was tested 228 mph. Fifty eight. Can you imagine a 22 yr old jack. At the PGA championship they hold a long drive in 1963. Jack hit driver 341 yards. Level ground with persimmon head steel shaft and a ball that is much shorter. In similar contest at PGA long drive jacks persimmon blast would have won the contest in 2017,2019.
Thanks to the OP. FWIW, the big move to the outside of the left foot was more of a mid-career thing; if you look at photos from his late teens and early 20s, he was much firmer in the left leg at impact, and later in his career he came to believe that was a better way to do it--that you could still release from the ground up with a strong move without sagging or bowing the left side so much. Grout never liked that move anyway--tried to get Jack to swing "from the insides of the feet."
@fs1natra So how close do you think _any_ current player could come to Jack's GIR percentage, given persimmon, blades, and balata, and hitting the same-number clubs into greens that he did?
From playing baseball my whole life I swing from my legs exactly like he does. I’m tired of being told it’s wrong. WHY wouldn’t you use the STRONGEST MUSCLE GROUP OF YOUR BODY!!? Warming up trying to groove the swing I tone it down while I get the feeling right but when I need distance it’s all legs.
that swing at the end looked nothing like jack's swing, he didn't move off the ball like that and he certainly did not back out of it through impact and after
Once I saw Jack asked how long his longest drive ever was. I believe I heard Jack say he once hit a drive in normal conditions - no wind, level ground - 360+ yards. I knew long hitters in the 1980's who could hit it over 300, so I think Jack is being very fair about this distance. That being said, imagine him hitting a Callaway X-Hot, with today's ball. I'm thinking 450 ish.
Is the key that all great golfers LOCK the left elbow at beginning of the swing... Nicklaus does... So do many other great golfers... Gary Player... Rory McIlroy... So i ask, is this the KEY,,, Locking the left elbow at the start of the swing ??? Can anyone pro or teacher answer that question... Nobody talks about it.... Seems like it is KEY to becoming great ! Who can answer the question ???
Blair Sterling, there's no ONE key. However, between a locked left arm and a bent one, the bent one is going to generally be more eradic. I can tell you one thing that will change your game instantly, keeping your left wrist flat and avoid "cupping" it at the top of your backswing. Google it. Or RUclips it. It's a HUGE mistake that most amateurs make and causes a ton of problems. Plus, it's the most simple fix ever. Anyway, there's my two cents. PS - I've got a golf swing coach and I get all my info from him and from research.
While this is true, the other aspects of the swing DEFINITELY determine how well you will achieve that goal... how consistently and powerfully you will achieve that goal.
Man are you serious.....jack was a deadly putter......maybe best part of his game.....especially on those 6' - 10' par putts. Go back and watch some old film of his tourneys to refresh your memory.
Love watching Jack and Arnies' swings. They just completely attack the ball aggressively with their whole bodies. They bombed the ball. A lot different than the graceful swings of their predecessors Hogan, Nelson, and Snead.
Absolutely perfect footwork. Look at his left heel free him up to make a huge huge huge turn.
Incredible footwork !! The best.
LOOK AT THAT DRAMATIC PIVOT.!!!! That is the reason he won 18 majors !!! Modern players must learn the huge pivot if they want to win big.
The pure athleticism of Jack's swing is astonishing. The all-over-body coordination, the "bigness" of his swing, the jaw-dropping lower body action that's so unbelievably controlled. Because Jack was a bit overweight coming out of Ohio State, and as he matured his body filled out, people have no idea just what a fantastic athlete the Golden Bear was. As a youngster Jack played baseball, football, basketball, and tennis, in addition to golf. He was good enough at basketball to be recruited to play at OSU. Nicklaus' father, Charlie, had played college football at OSU and then semi-pro football for the team that became the Detroit Lions. He also dominated area tennis, winning several city championships. Both men were exceptional all-around athletes with immense power and elite hand-eye coordination. To this day Jack insists that young people should be encouraged to play multiple sports, rather than concentrating solely on golf or any one activity. The only problem with that is most youngsters aren't blessed with world-class athleticism that makes excellence more realistic to attain.
It's funny that you mentioned the "bigness" of the swing-this discussion came up on a different video of a totally different sport, and I came here to make sure I correctly remembered a particular facet of Nicklaus' swing. Look at the amount of "stretch" he got even in the first half of the backswing-it's easiest to see at 1:31. It means he ended up with a very long swing arc, which amounts to plenty of time to build club head speed through the hitting zone. And while a baseball swing and a golf swing have a lot of differences, Ken Griffey, Jr. had the same kind of "stretch" in his swing-which was why he hit so many home runs with what looked at first to be an almost effortless swing.
Look at him at :15. THAT is power personified! His left side has coiled around a stationary right side to a maximum degree. Look at the extension he gets with his left arm, how high his hands are. Observers - even guys who should know better - claimed Jack had a "flying right elbow." That's garbage. His elbow did not "fly." It's the natural position to accommodate the incredible arm extension, and it's still oriented to his right, not out behind him, a la Freddie Couples or John Daly. The only tiny exception I'll make to your comments is that while Jack's backswing CERTAINLY stored up tremendous energy, it isn't a foregone conclusion that his downswing would generate massive clubhead speed/power. All that's resulted at the top of his backswing is *potential*. IMO, the most impressive of Jack's countless impressive talents, was his AMAZING lower body *explosion* from the top and through impact. Watch his footwork, leg and hip action through the entire down/through-swing. Considering Jack lifted his head slightly at the top of his swing - which means an angle at his knees or hips changed - it leaves me speechless that he was able to gather all that power and deliver the clubhead to the back of a golf ball with world-class precision. Look at all the dynamic movement in his swing, and consider that at the moment of truth everything has to manifest at an area the size of a DIME on the clubface meets the PRECISE middle of the back of a ball measuring 1.68"!!! I"m sorry, folks. But that skill isn't "learned" or developed through hard work. The ability to do that is God-given, and then realized through infinite dedication and in Jack's case, excellent instruction.
after watching this video i reduced my score by 10 strokes. I am now shooting in the 120's regularly! I am so happy.
I'm happy for you! Don't rest on your Laurel and Hardy's though ok. I want you out there on the range day after day, 6 hours a day. 2 hours minimum chipping and putting. You are allowed to sleep at night though.
Jack Nicklaus swing is like a Davinci painting...its beautiful and i could stare at it all dy every day
He is the best for sure no doubt. But a beautiful swing, I dnt know about that. That is a pretty violent swing lol but he somehow controls it is what matters.
@@jakbayano5420 It's too animated for my tastes. I like to look at a swing that I might be able to duplicate. Like Sam Snead.
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The most underrated gift ,which we all assume is only a little better with exceptional golfers, is hand-eye coordination. To swing like Jack did at a young age and find the absolute center of the clubface, at a perfect angle--even with a stiff-impossible to hit pefect- 1 - Iron; well he could do that probably dozens of times in a row before a slight mishit. It's Lennon/McCartney in their prime...and it's not a recipe that can be copied, it's a gift.
Look at that momentum transfer at the moment of impact... Simply beautiful.
"i never thought anyone would put Hogan in the shadows but jack did"-gene sarazen
If you take it back more vertical like Jack did, then when the right hip moves out during the start of the downswing, the club naturally lays off and the swing becomes flatter. If you take it back more flat, then the start of the downswing makes the club naturally want to come over the top.
That first swing with modern technology would be INSANE! Gosh he was a heck of a player!
You're exactly right on Nicklaus & Snead. I can't remember the Arizona par-5, but the comment on the 16th at Firestone, I do remember. Unreal. Also, in the 1964 Masters, Nicklaus hit driver, eight-iron slightly over the green on the 15th, then measuring 520 yards. Huge.
0:39 This is perfection. I cant imagine a more beautiful position at the top.
Wow, what an athletic golfer. If Jack came along today teaching pros would change so many great things that he did with his swing. For starters they would tell him to keep the left heel on the ground. Watch most of young pros today. They are not free to let their lower body help launch the ball as Jack did. Back then woods were made from wood. Give the Persimmons driver to today's player and they would start being more athletic again. Thanks for posting. Hammer
I doubt many of todays players would not be able to swing a Persimmon wood
Jacks early years swing looks raw power. Amazing
averaged 270 plus with balata balls and persimmon woods. he would have to get a flightplan with today's equipment.
Lots of laughs at the guy trying to emulate Jack there at the end...I don't recall ever seeing Jack lose his balance and fall back after the shot.
Jack was the Master.
As a pilot I almost pissed myself as I read this. Best comment in a long while my friend. Cheers!
Take that first swing and give today's driver / ball technology and the distance would be unbelievable.
It may well be that Jack was the first player to truly bring athleticism into the game, as when watching him, one gets the idea of someone in the middle of dynamic motion, just as much as when watching a discus thrower throw a discus. All others compared to Jack up until his time looked like dart throwers or pool players, and not that they weren't great at what they did - they were!!! But here we're looking at the greatest player of all time in my humble opinion.
Oh come on Sam Snead was knocking the ball 300yds + back in the 50s. Ben Hogan Player
My wife was Jacks personal assistant for 2 years at Golden bear in Florida back in 1985 -1987. She has told me that Jack was a great dad and husband and was a very nice boss to work for. Jack has what Tiger will NEVER have....thats CLASS!
To be fair I don't think Tiger was allowed to have class His father dragged him from place to place for tournaments A young black man in a white mans sport .
Why are you replying to a 10 year old comment?
@@jacktattis Tiger's not 'Black'. He's only half Black. The neotenous Chinese part probably contributed to his earlier great flexibility. Added to that is the hybrid vigour arising from his very widely separated ancestry, SS African and Chinese being the widest apart of all the races.
@@awill3454 Why are you READING the ten year old Comments? Is it because they're not the final word?
Reading a 10 year comment is NOTHING like replying to it. Have you read an old book like Huckleberry Finn or Moby Dick? Those books are well over a hundred years old and people still read them today. Responding to a 10 year old comment is entirely different. The original poster may be dead or doesn’t even use RUclips anymore
I have never seen a club accelerate through impact like that. You can't see that in full speed. It's crazy. It looks like the clubhead speed doubles through the impact zone.
Jack would make people faint. So would Sam Snead.
Jack once reached that 630-yard 16th hole at Firestone with, as he put it, "two well-hit 3-woods." There's a plaque on a par-5 in Arizona (I can't remember the course) saying "From this spot, Jack Nicklaus scored double eagle. Club: 8-iron." Think about that for a second.
In 1956 at the Canada Cup in Melbourbe Australia 601 yards Driver Long Iron Putt The two to the green were magnificent. The iron never went more than 10ft off the deck I saw Jack and Arnie have a shoot out of the 17 th at the L;akes in Sydney in the 70s Jack won by about 5 metres Arnie went in the water Sam was also in the tournament, in his 60s and was still a great hitter tee to green
He didn't start the downswing, with his knees, nor did he try to turn on the downswing. He took himself off balance, at transition and allowed the pull of gravity, to shift the weight of the rotating mass onto the left side.
The speed of gravity, is the only constant, we have and both the rotation and the arms falling into the slot, ensures the the arms are moving in phaze with the rotating mass , which ensures that the clubhead is mechanicaly coupled to the whole of the mass, at impact.
If we do not allow the powerless arms to float to the top and try and move the clubhead with either intentional rotation or applied arm movement, both with be out of phaze with one another and the clubhead we be decoupled from the rotating mass.
Surrender to gravity folks; just as Jack did .
Always remember less is more and the real secret is that there isn't one, in the fact that you switch off the conscious brain at transition and wait for the " Lizard " brain to pull you through.
Question, have you ever caught a falling object, without even thinking about it ? Well that's the part of the brain, that you need to use, in order to play good golf !!!! The secret, is to fall of vertical , just like Jack .
Good luck 😅😅😅
Great video!
Intangibles that Jack has over Tiger IMO are swing tempo & distance control. The latter as a result of the former. When comparisons are made between Jack & Tiger, this rarely seems to come up. Hogan & Jones (obviously Snead) had super tempo as well, but Jack had more overall power.
When asked what Jack's greatest strength was, Tom Watson immediately said swing tempo.
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When you watch it. He tends to move his head to where the left eye looks down at the ball. Either at the takeaway. Or just before. Other than that it stays pretty much in the same place until he starts to power through the ball. All that body movement, and the head stays the same. Pretty cool.
Forget Tiger Woods, the swing people should be emulating is this guy.
No for the young player Sam Snead Snead once said he only used 85% of his power and he was knocking balata balls out past 300yds
that first swing one of the most bestial, powerful, perfect ones ever ... looks like he kept the clubface square into the follow thru too
Persimmon has sort of a linear sweet spot which forces these guys into some awkward positions (and small drivers are easier to pop up). His leg action may have got a little looser over the years from time spent deep sea fishing. Your balance center in your inner ear can get a little thrown off and tilt vertigo may creep in. With modern equipment he might not have had the hip problems he later developed so it is still a good swing to learn from for really athletic people.
He was focused and in control of all his natural/practiced ability with the agility of mind to compensate for any errors. Result !!!
Best athlete to ever play golf? I think so. That swing is just wicked. Jack in his prime with today's equipment would be a joke.
@jackhon I want to add: it is very important to take lessons from a pro. When I take lessons, I get the right feedback from a guy who is an expert of the game. That has helped me a lot! Looking at these videos is Ok, but it is sometimes difficult to know if you make mistakes. I did a lot of mistakes, but with the feedback from the pro I try to improve my game and avoid mistakes.
Whats that first swing....420 with modern equipment?
LOL ... You know it! Jack was a beast!
No but I would say 360 for sure.
Jack had a swing speed of 118 at the age of almost 60. It was the only time he had it recorded. Jack won a driving contest hitting it 340 something with a old golf ball, persimmon wood driver with a steel shaft much shorter than todays drivers and weighed around 40g more. They estimate his swing speed to be 126-133 in his prime.
He moved his head a lot more than people ever talked about.
That first swing with today's equipment - forget about it!
I was thinking the same thing. His average drive with the modern driver and ball would probably be about 320 yds.
Nah, I think 380 would be a very conservative estimation if we are talking about Jack in his prime...
@@cdog2331 He would average 340-350 with that swing at least with todays drivers and balls. He was hitting it 300 yards sometimes with those clubs and balls.
Long drive champs, top out at around 150 mph. Jack did not swing that fast with a 43" steel shafted driver. End of discussion. He might have swung around 120 to 125 mpg with that driver, which is still very impressive. Considering Tiger gained 6 mpg when switching to a 45" graphite driver, lets assume the same happened to Jack. The most efficient driver 2019 on average was Keegan Bradley with 2.555. If we assume Jack was as efficient and we assume Jack swung around 120 with his 43" steel shafted driver he would swing a modern driver about 5-6 mpg faster. Lets be conservative and say he wound swing a modern driver 120, we get 120 mph x 2.555 = 306 yards carry. If he swung that old steel shafted driver 125 mph (which is about where Tiger swung his old 34.5" steel shafted driver (Titleist 975D)), Jack would carry a modern ball with a modern driver about 319 yards.
Now Tiger averaged 323 yards off the tee, the week he won the masters in 97. Which would require him to average a minimum of 123 mph with his driver at the time. Tiger has never been a great driver, nor the most efficient, so he probably swung 125+ mph that week. Give 97 Tiger a modern club, he would swing it around 130-131 mph. So he would be about as long off the tee as Cameron Champ is! Incidentally, 97 Tiger and Champ have very similar swings!
Now I don't think anyone knows exactly how fast Jack swung, but it would seem he was the fastest on tour... what ever we believe, if we take what we believe his swing speed was back then, we can add about 5 mph for faster swing with modern equipment and multiply that with 2.555 to get a reasonable approximation of Jacks carry distance with modern clubs! To sum up
(Old club swing speed + 5 mph with modern club) x 2.555 = modern carry distance
@@maxcaysey2844 Jack had his swing speed measured at 118mph at 59 years old in 1998 !! to compare a tour player to a long drive contestant is ridiculous !!
fairways these days have heaps more run ! Nicklaus in his prime would be up there with the longest TOUR players of today.
see how many current tour players could consistantly hit a persimmon wood in the tiny sweetspot !
Jack Nicklaus is the greatest player who will ever live. Hundreds of years from now no one will come close to winning 20 major championships. Nobody.
I see you threw in his two Amateur wins, well if that's the case Tiger has18 Majors, i'd say that's pretty close(and he aint done yet!).
@@Dreama40No, tiger done. Also, if he did win, it would be because all the really good players left the pga tour.
Plenty of new ones coming onto the pga tour as well, NEVER discount their talent or ability to win big.@@bobbys4327
At 0:51 you can really see how he violently pulls his left shoulder up while simultaneously straightening his left leg to whip the club into the ball.
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Jack had the most beautiful "big swing" ever. See 0:39. Probably the most beautiful "small swing" would be Ben Hogan... Tight... tight-tight as Tuco would say.
I admire Jacks swing but for pure poetry in motion I believe Sam Snead was supreme
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They who says that these Champs (like Jack N, Sam S, Tom W and other) golfswing are obsolete and out of date are wrong. This is a real powerful golfswing to challange every pro of today.
.36 was the best swing, a swing that beat his opponents pretty easy. a swing that also beats tigger woods
GOAT
Nicklaus, he'll never amount to anything w/ that flying right elbow.
Cameron Champ's motion has nothing on the swing at 00:26 lol
he knew how to maximise his power to the max he used every part of his body just amazing power and a great man we were spoiled with him the best
That’s how he won 20 majors
Wow amazing.. but he didn't really have what you'd call a flat back would you? you can see why he had neck issues later on with all that speed/whip at the bottom of the swing. SO much power!
Gd job thx
@jackhon I will never be a master in golf, I just love the game. So can I advice? I don't know. But as Sam S., Phil M., Jack N and some other masters, for example lift their left foot heal on the backswing. Myself I have tried to copy Ben H.'s swing (see= Ben Hogan Golf Swing on YT). To start with the hip. That has helped me a lot. I trust Jack N.'s words. All swings are the same movement. I'm just a glad amateur who wants to improve my golf. And unfortunately I have only one eye to see with.
If you analyze the swings of professional golfers closely they appear to be very different. The grip (apart from locking vs. overlap) is almost universally the same as is the body's overall position at impact.
I’m sure they can figured out somehow with computer analysis how fast Jack swung his driver back in the day. My bet he would be right up their with today’s players
At 58 yrs old his driver swing was tested 228 mph. Fifty eight. Can you imagine a 22 yr old jack. At the PGA championship they hold a long drive in 1963. Jack hit driver 341 yards. Level ground with persimmon head steel shaft and a ball that is much shorter. In similar contest at PGA long drive jacks persimmon blast would have won the contest in 2017,2019.
Thanks to the OP.
FWIW, the big move to the outside of the left foot was more of a mid-career thing; if you look at photos from his late teens and early 20s, he was much firmer in the left leg at impact, and later in his career he came to believe that was a better way to do it--that you could still release from the ground up with a strong move without sagging or bowing the left side so much. Grout never liked that move anyway--tried to get Jack to swing "from the insides of the feet."
Looking at his swing in regular speed it looks so wild and out of control but I guess its all about the results. wow!
it looks completely in control....in perfect balance throughout and fully released./
@fs1natra
So how close do you think _any_ current player could come to Jack's GIR percentage, given persimmon, blades, and balata, and hitting the same-number clubs into greens that he did?
He shifted almost all his weight to his right foot.
The ball from that first tee shot may still be going.
I notice he’s lifting his left heel in the backswing. Someone told me today it is absolutely no-go when I did that.
Same here, but I'm thinking its whatever works for you. As long as you hit that ball lol
Don't go back to the instructor who told you that. It's a natural motion, and it works for many. You can certainly play to your goals, within reason.
It was like watching a human turn into a bull-whip, man I miss those days!!
I wish we had accurate swing speed and ball speed data from back then!
If he was in his prime nowadays he´d hit it as far as Bubba, but a lot more accurate. He´d still overpower most golf courses.
"You understand what I'm tellin' ya?" Hahaha. No actor in Hollywood could deliver that the way Trevino just did.
Very upright swing plane.
From playing baseball my whole life I swing from my legs exactly like he does. I’m tired of being told it’s wrong. WHY wouldn’t you use the STRONGEST MUSCLE GROUP OF YOUR BODY!!? Warming up trying to groove the swing I tone it down while I get the feeling right but when I need distance it’s all legs.
I've never heard Jack say he started his downswing with his knees. I think he just planted his left foot down to start his downswing.
I like the guy trying to emulate his swing at the end of the video: FAIL. Only thing that looked somewhat resembling was the head twist.
hmmm, not sure about 450 but a young Jack would certainly be averaging up there with Bubba........ he swing was just brutal.
good point.
Gotta have real strong legs to swing like Jack.
Anyone have the whole thing?? I know McLean did Hogan(which is up) and others
I didn't realize how similar Jack's swing is to Bobby Jones!
Bobby Jones was his idol
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that swing at the end looked nothing like jack's swing, he didn't move off the ball like that and he certainly did not back out of it through impact and after
Amazing player. It looks like he falls backward a bit, I noticed for the first time.
The "reverse C" follow through was popular in his time.
@maxwells1987
Just a huge rip at the ball. Those early 60s shot where he has the wide stance are just violent.
Its Jack Nicklaus, what do you expect?
Jack basically had a long driving swing!
Tiger could learn a thing or two from him.
That 1st swing. I think he tore the cover off that ball with that small wooden head.
@Goynes42 - I forgot...the double eagle was during the 1996 Tradition.
His swing looks like Bubba Watson! I bet this is where Bubba got the legs action from.
Could have been a baseball player with that force.
GOAT for sure But for world wide wins Roberto De Vincenzo, Player and Snead have him beat .
WAS JACK BETTER THAN HOGAN?
Yes.
If Jack had not stayed with MacGregor balls and clubs he would have won more majors
I just noticed how important golf cameramen are...
Once I saw Jack asked how long his longest drive ever was. I believe I heard Jack say he once hit a drive in normal conditions - no wind, level ground - 360+ yards. I knew long hitters in the 1980's who could hit it over 300, so I think Jack is being very fair about this distance. That being said, imagine him hitting a Callaway X-Hot, with today's ball. I'm thinking 450 ish.
That’s not true unless it got a big runout
Just by club head, ball speed and launch angle, you would know what you are saying is absurd. He isn't hitting it 400 yards.
@fs1natra bobby jones retired at 28
hate the big ass hip slide in his swing , thats caused his hip problems later on
Wrong.
Is the key that all great golfers LOCK the left elbow at beginning of the swing... Nicklaus does... So do many other great golfers... Gary Player... Rory McIlroy... So i ask, is this the KEY,,, Locking the left elbow at the start of the swing ??? Can anyone pro or teacher answer that question... Nobody talks about it.... Seems like it is KEY to becoming great !
Who can answer the question ???
one of the true secrets of the game the lengthening of the lead arm throughout the swing very difficult to accomplish. Scottsworldofgolf.com
Blair Sterling, there's no ONE key. However, between a locked left arm and a bent one, the bent one is going to generally be more eradic. I can tell you one thing that will change your game instantly, keeping your left wrist flat and avoid "cupping" it at the top of your backswing. Google it. Or RUclips it. It's a HUGE mistake that most amateurs make and causes a ton of problems. Plus, it's the most simple fix ever. Anyway, there's my two cents. PS - I've got a golf swing coach and I get all my info from him and from research.
... making us laugh!
... if you want to limit your potential.
Right, Right, Funny ...ALL THAT MATTERS IS IMPACT...WONT' PEOPLE EVER GET THAT?
While this is true, the other aspects of the swing DEFINITELY determine how well you will achieve that goal... how consistently and powerfully you will achieve that goal.
Agreed ... that was a terrible "impersonation" LOL!
lol that last guys swing looked nothin like it
Man are you serious.....jack was a deadly putter......maybe best part of his game.....especially on those 6' - 10' par putts. Go back and watch some old film of his tourneys to refresh your memory.
Love watching Jack and Arnies' swings. They just completely attack the ball aggressively with their whole bodies. They bombed the ball. A lot different than the graceful swings of their predecessors Hogan, Nelson, and Snead.
I really want to see Tiger get the record, but would not be upset if it stayed with Jack. Two legends of the game.
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