Why Double Decker Local Trains Are a Stupid Idea

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  • Опубликовано: 15 апр 2023
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    While double-decker trains have the potential to increase passenger capacity, there are several reasons why they may not be practical for Mumbai. From infrastructure limitations to safety concerns, the challenges of implementing double-decker trains are numerous. Join us as we delve into the world of Mumbai's local trains and explore the alternatives to double-decker trains.
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  • @suneetabhat1822
    @suneetabhat1822 Год назад +490

    Only Mumbai Metro can save Mumbai City by making Mumbai City jam free and can become a lifeline for city.

    • @blackspace2981
      @blackspace2981 Год назад +40

      Na bhai.... Metro v ek time baad bhoat jyada bhar jaati h.... Delhi metro 5-10 saal baad mumbai local jaise ho jayegi....avi itna bura haal h delhi metro ka bhot population h.....

    • @Zapzuuuuu
      @Zapzuuuuu Год назад +26

      @@blackspace2981 delhi mai sirf metro hai local trains nahi hai

    • @justarandomguywithoutaname8719
      @justarandomguywithoutaname8719 Год назад +21

      Metro is a part of solution, except it we need to upgrade local trains, add more local train routes(including semi high speed routes to , improve bus network, improve city design so most commutes would be at walking distance and add and mantain footpaths and cycle lanes

    • @SoumyaChowdhury24081995
      @SoumyaChowdhury24081995 Год назад

      ​@@justarandomguywithoutaname8719 indian city developers only think about cars. That is why they build flyovers and then say that metro or LRT cant be constructed because of the flyover

    • @samarthreaction2863
      @samarthreaction2863 Год назад +1

      BB

  • @stevendsouza7891
    @stevendsouza7891 Год назад +189

    When you started talking about suffocation i started imagining it and literally made me feel claustrophobic 😂🥵

  • @factoshala1487
    @factoshala1487 Год назад +44

    we are the luckiest generation to be ever born in India we saw India are watching India growing

    • @Amoghavarsha.
      @Amoghavarsha. Год назад +7

      Let's hope we all play our role adequately to make our country great.
      ಭಾರತ ಮಾತೆಗೆ ಜಯವಾಗಲಿ 💐
      Jai Hind 🇮🇳

    • @friendlyatheist9589
      @friendlyatheist9589 Год назад +3

      @@the_ultimate_Anxiety koi baat nahi. Fk up hona hai subka future me. I hope you won't use expressways

    • @Amoghavarsha.
      @Amoghavarsha. Год назад +3

      @@the_ultimate_Anxiety why are you using internet ? It will cause harm to sparrows and little birds....

    • @Israel_wale_chacha
      @Israel_wale_chacha Год назад

      @@the_ultimate_Anxiety stop drinking water , you are converting it to urine and wasting it .

    • @legendarymortarplayer9453
      @legendarymortarplayer9453 Год назад

      @@the_ultimate_Anxiety fir bhutan chale jao hame financial development chahiye

  • @chetankhandewahe
    @chetankhandewahe Год назад +16

    I have asked it in askpt of your initial videos below 100.....and you answered it well.....thank you

  • @AdityaKaushik1501
    @AdityaKaushik1501 Год назад +45

    Rrts like train system is required I Mumbai and surrounding areas. I think it will be implemented in Mumbai after seeing its impact in Delhi.

  • @masurkarvedanta
    @masurkarvedanta Год назад +249

    We Mumbaikars want all local trains to be full AC at cheap rates, similar to Metros.
    This is a necessity inorder to upgrade the standard of living of Mumbaikars, this will also reduce hanging from doors and keep people inside trains, also frequency should be reduced to 2 mins per train

    • @jaysiddhapura
      @jaysiddhapura Год назад +47

      try to replace all the normal local train with ac local, and you will see a big protest. unfortunately we enjoy poverty and low living standard! 🥲🎉

    • @Rajnaitik_Samachar
      @Rajnaitik_Samachar Год назад +2

      हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी।

    • @Rajnaitik_Samachar
      @Rajnaitik_Samachar Год назад

      हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी।

    • @Rajnaitik_Samachar
      @Rajnaitik_Samachar Год назад

      हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी। हिंदी मुंबई की राजभाषा 2024 में बनेगी।

    • @masurkarvedanta
      @masurkarvedanta Год назад +10

      @@jaysiddhapura no buddy development hokar rahega, last week decision for tender floating of 200 Ac trains was made we have to wait and watch

  • @rasoolkeuusoolfatimakekhet72
    @rasoolkeuusoolfatimakekhet72 Год назад +51

    Specialised coaches are must for mumbai for rapid acceleration- deceleration

  • @zhappy
    @zhappy Год назад +105

    Automatic doors are a must

  • @RamkrishanYT
    @RamkrishanYT Год назад +2

    I'm so happy a train specific hindi channel has grown so big
    Congrats on your success and thank you for the amazing content

  • @ayeshaclassesgk
    @ayeshaclassesgk Год назад +9

    Power train💟I was like I am so bored on RUclips but Then I saw a new vid from you and now having a good day

  • @adivlogs141
    @adivlogs141 Год назад +20

    They should increase station platform height equal to door height, should have barrier gates on platforms of train doors like metro 2A

    • @Chaitanya1310
      @Chaitanya1310 Год назад +2

      Platform Screen Doors (PSDs) can used only if the signalling system is CBTC.

  • @gambhiragrawal3569
    @gambhiragrawal3569 Год назад +85

    #AskPT:
    What if seat alignment change from current designs to that used in metroes, so that more space would be available to stand, and seating for some special citizens.

    • @rasoolkeuusoolfatimakekhet72
      @rasoolkeuusoolfatimakekhet72 Год назад +12

      Even seat hta dena hi theek rhega

    • @PowerTrain
      @PowerTrain  Год назад +47

      It has been tried before, it failed

    • @jaybagwe7316
      @jaybagwe7316 Год назад +4

      @@PowerTrain why it failed how can we improve it now

    • @JokerJoker-xc7xb
      @JokerJoker-xc7xb Год назад +9

      @@PowerTrain I request you to make a Video that why spliting of State is always a Bad Idea in Long term.
      Instead of Focusing on too much Decentralization of Power, why it is Necessary to Build Infrastructure, Road, Expressways and New Freight Rail Lines, Between the 2 Cities which would Cover almost all Poor Villages or Cities.
      As we can clearly see that Bihar Becomes Poorer State, when Jharkhand get Separate out, as Jharkhand was Coal mining Hub.
      We can also see How UP becomes Poorer state, When Uttrakhand get Separate out from UP as, Uttrakhand is a Tourist Hub.
      We can also see, How Andhra Pradesh get Poorer State when Telangana get Separate out, as Telangana is an IT as well as Semi-Industrial State.

    • @JokerJoker-xc7xb
      @JokerJoker-xc7xb Год назад +6

      @@manusharma7487 Well Bro I dont know who soch mohak Mangal but I will definately ask it.
      anyway, Politics, Infrastructure Development and Economic Activities are Brother of same Womb.
      ~Kautliya Arthashastra
      Even Powertrain will Agree with that without Politics, you cant do Development.
      Do you know why India never Becomes an Industrial State like European Countries or China?????
      Because of Land Hoarding Problem by Zamindaars, Politicians, Underworld Mafias and Rich Oligarch.
      After-all You need a Land for doing an Infrastructure Development, Town Planning, Creating New Urban Cities or Opening a Manufacturing Factory especially related to Defense Sectors or Aerospace Sector Right????

  • @unearthly_fellow2879
    @unearthly_fellow2879 Год назад +29

    Did u know Kolkata Suburban Railway system (local train system) is the largest Suburban system in India (it almost cover whole South Bengal)...and Just like Mumbai... here in Southern Bengal Local train is our lifeline...❤

    • @rajdeepvijayaraj4243
      @rajdeepvijayaraj4243 Год назад +4

      I recently visited Kolkata, the metro system is amazing there. Love from Bengaluru.

  • @joemama-yw5rc
    @joemama-yw5rc Год назад +2

    I love the new Intro. Keep it for all your videos.

  • @oadka
    @oadka Год назад

    The usage of purely Indian stock footage relevant to the topic is highly appreciated. Other channels often use stock footage of trains in other countries.

  • @friendlyatheist9589
    @friendlyatheist9589 Год назад +6

    The pressure to reach in time is one of the reason behind such rush. We need city metro system in Mumbai just like delhi ab Maharashtra government ke upar hai wo kiya karna chahte

  • @sumanadhikari7264
    @sumanadhikari7264 Год назад +2

    #Askpt
    Is the bullet train in India double or more line ?

  • @DARNEJITENDRA
    @DARNEJITENDRA Год назад +5

    A Metro-like configuration can help but it will reduce seating capacity and increase the standing of passengers.
    The reduction of Long-distance trains in the suburban network will increase the frequency.
    Another option is to have viaducts to boost network lines and thereby adding more services and reducing overcrowding in trains.

  • @ms.550
    @ms.550 Год назад

    Local train me kaun sa coach use hota hai bhai? Koi technical naam?

  • @RaviRavi-ir7pf
    @RaviRavi-ir7pf Год назад

    Can't we make double decker platform for the doors designed only for upper deck.

  • @friendlyatheist9589
    @friendlyatheist9589 Год назад +5

    The only solution is more and more metro also development of other cities so people go to those cities for jobs too not just Mumbai. Kaafi jayda population issue hai

  • @hemantpatil8369
    @hemantpatil8369 Год назад +3

    1st of all the same idea which is used in current double decor train is not necessary to be used
    Insted we can create double decor train my multiple platforms means 2 platform 1 on top of other.
    And trains will be just one on top of other

  • @erwinrommel9137
    @erwinrommel9137 Год назад +15

    Atleast IR must shift local train's electrical equipment into underslung of the train
    It will help increaseing capacity without adding any coaches. And make coaches interconnected and air conditioning

    • @PowerTrain
      @PowerTrain  Год назад +9

      It's already being done in newer trains

    • @Cheryminati5.
      @Cheryminati5. Год назад

      ​@@PowerTrain double decker train is the only solution,in Europe they handle over crowd by double decker and its effective

    • @Chaitanya1310
      @Chaitanya1310 Год назад

      Currently it's being experimented in 1 AC local. Looks like it will be implemented in future.

  • @lIIlI..
    @lIIlI.. Год назад +3

    Metro ka jaal bichhao
    Local se jaan chhudao❤

  • @arigato544
    @arigato544 Год назад

    What if we could make metros above railway line? specially in highly populated areas

  • @deveshp30
    @deveshp30 Год назад +2

    double deckers can be used but .. with a new design which allows people to go on upper berth from platform only.. .like at every coach's end there should be a stair which can be made as spacious as you want .. for people to come down or go on the upper decker ..
    stairs should not be inside the coach but outside ... that will allow them to move faster.

  • @luckygarg9315
    @luckygarg9315 Год назад +7

    2 min k stop m utarpana mushkil ho jaega

  • @prasannask8320
    @prasannask8320 Год назад +3

    there is one main problem with Mumbai Local line setup especially platforms.
    currently track 1 and 2 are for slow down and slow up traffic while track 3 and 4 are for fast down and fast up.
    applies to both Central as well as Western railway.
    ideally, in a quadruple setup, outer tracks i.e., 1 and 4 should be for slow trains and inner tracks 2 and 3 should have been for fast trains.
    this way, there was no need for platforms for track 2 and 3 where fast trains do not stop.
    but main benefit would have been that changing trains would have been much easier.
    suppose if we are at Church gate and want to go to Santacruz,
    now presently, we have to get down at Bandra platform 4, then walk up the staircase, walk the corridor, go down the staircase to platform1 and then catch the slow train there to go to Santacruz, this causes crowding on the staircase as well as the overhead pass ways.
    but if the 1 and 2 were for down slow and down fast trains, then the process would be -->
    we would get in a fast train, get down at Bandra and at same platform on other side, get into a slow train and reach Santacruz.
    no need to climb up and down the staircase, only ones on the staircase would be those whose destination is that station.
    such tracks exist in lonavala Pune section where the stretch is only two tracks but it splits into 4 tracks at some stations so that local trains take the inner tracks (1 and 4) while mail trains pass through on inner tracks (2 and 3)

  • @amitytt
    @amitytt Год назад

    Intro Bahut Cool Hai #PowerTrain Bhai👏

  • @ryankolay8770
    @ryankolay8770 9 месяцев назад

    What will happen if there are more people on the upper deck?

  • @IRRFAYUB77
    @IRRFAYUB77 Год назад

    #askpt
    How standard Guage so stable in high speed then broad gauge

  • @gambhiragrawal3569
    @gambhiragrawal3569 Год назад +28

    #AskPT:
    Can coach number be increased to 20 in this local trains, as already long route trains have 22-23 coaches approx.

    • @akhilghag5898
      @akhilghag5898 Год назад +20

      Platforms are not so long

    • @socks4everyone
      @socks4everyone Год назад +3

      ​@@akhilghag5898 yes

    • @PowerTrain
      @PowerTrain  Год назад +16

      Platform issue

    • @tanishsalunkechannel9897
      @tanishsalunkechannel9897 Год назад +7

      I guess it can be done on central line and western line but not on harbour because platform issue

    • @Makarov934
      @Makarov934 Год назад +3

      Platform badaye ja skta h ye sab vande Bharat k natanki na karke

  • @ronakmistry789
    @ronakmistry789 Год назад +1

    Flying raanee already chalti hai wide door ke sath & double dekar me interior metro jesa ho jaye to solution aa jayega , dadar chadhne utarane ki jagah side me raheni chahiye

  • @sumeetbadlani5489
    @sumeetbadlani5489 Год назад

    What if they remove sitting from few coaches ? So that more people can fit but they have to travel by standing

  • @suprashank
    @suprashank Год назад +3

    You need to talk and request people to join ur channel.

  • @mukherjeesuniversum2665
    @mukherjeesuniversum2665 Год назад +1

    Waise me sochta hoon ki jo ICF Non-AC DoubDeck coaches hai wo Fast shuttle during rush hour ke liye use kiya jaa sakhte hai especially in Mumbai and Kolkata... For example- Kalyan to CSTM jo beech me sirf Thane aur Dadar me rukega. Similarly, Vasai - Andheri - Dadar - Churchgate/CSMT fast shuttle. For Kolkata Mecheda - Howrah via Bagnan, Uluberia, Santragachhi; then Kalyani - Sealdah via Barrackpore and Dumdum; Bandel - Howrah via Chandannagore, Serampore and Bally agar chalye to I think Mumbai aur Kolkata me overcrowding ka problem kuchh haad tak solve ho jayega...
    Railways long distance ke liye toh Fast Local chalata hai, lekin agar short distance ke liye bhi Fast shuttle service with DoubDeck coaches chalaye, jaha sabse zyada bhir hota hai, toh overcrowding thoda solve hoga..

  • @ganeshjagannathprabhu1301
    @ganeshjagannathprabhu1301 Год назад +7

    You Are Infrastructural Video Are Best 👍👍👍

  • @mik29k
    @mik29k Год назад +3

    How about some "only standing local" in peek hours???
    Hear me out!!!
    My POV (I'm sure many would agree)
    Time spent in train: 1hr+ one way
    70% days i travel entirely standing.
    20% days i get to sit for last 10-15 mins.
    10% days i skip trains because of no space.
    Those who don't want to stand and not in a rush can wait. And those who don't care because they travel standing anyways would get on it.
    Ventilation needs to be improved/redesigned that's for sure.

    • @daksheshbhide
      @daksheshbhide Год назад +2

      If everyone is going to stand, won't it hinder the air flow inside?

  • @prasannask8320
    @prasannask8320 Год назад +1

    for those who are saying, why don't we build elevated tracks above the current tracks,
    i want to remind them that, the trains tracks are not the only things which are there along the route,
    there are also many road-over-rail bridges, some of them critically important to road traffic.
    so, either the rail corridor gets built at a height where it passes over the road bridge, or the road bridge is broken down and recreated to pass over the double level rail train. either way, it is a very costly and disruptive maneuver.
    and technical thing is,
    building another road on top of existing road is one thing, |it is relatively easy, but building anything over live wires at 25KV is totally another thing. that too when the train traffic is continuous, the risk of falling debris is way too much.

  • @jaywant7777
    @jaywant7777 16 дней назад

    (1) All 3 main lines ke beech me interlink karke uspe Metro ya local train chalaye ( for e.g. transharbor is interlink between Central and Harbor line ) (2) Western aur Central railway stations ko redesign karke Navi Mumbai jaisa dono tarf se utarne, chadhne ke liye platform

  • @hiteshbansal8431
    @hiteshbansal8431 2 месяца назад

    Is complete standing seats a viable ans useful options for local trains? In peak hours on experimental basis few coach can be made seating less, will be able to accomodate more passangers, the ones travelling shorter distances can choose to travel in those.

  • @prasannask8320
    @prasannask8320 Год назад +1

    Another menace in Local Trains is people standing in Half part of the doorways and thus only half part of the double doors is actually available for passengers to get in and get out.
    one easy way of cancelling this culture is to make it official that all exits must be from the side the train is going and all entry must be made from the other side of the door
    ie if the train is going to Virar, then at Dadar station, platform is on left hand side, the left-hand side part of the doorway (pointing towards Virar) should be the one for alighting while the right-hand side should be for getting in.
    at Bandra, Andheri, Borivali, it would be the right-hand side for alighting and left-hand side for getting in as platform is on the right side of the train.
    if this rule was made official, the door blocking situation will automatically become illegal.
    this rule will also help in passenger behavior when AC trains with closed doors become the Norm.
    perfect solution would be double discharge stations, but it is too late to implement it.

  • @shreyas_dubey
    @shreyas_dubey Год назад +2

    Wow I was thinking about this for a quite long time and loved how you covered this in a video.... telepathy at the next level

  • @user-ly2sg6je6r
    @user-ly2sg6je6r Год назад +1

    coaches should be connected to each other, passengers can pass one to another

  • @rkanagala
    @rkanagala Год назад

    Just like Airbus has upper level ingress/egress, it is quite possible for major stations to have a platforms on upper level too..

  • @MrPrandhir
    @MrPrandhir Год назад +17

    Mumbai - Nashik and Mumbai- Pune can also reduce crowd in local trains

    • @AmartyaRao356
      @AmartyaRao356 Год назад

      Uk in both sections ghats ata hai local train ghats nahi Chad sakta so bad idea

    • @MrPrandhir
      @MrPrandhir Год назад

      @@AmartyaRao356 rrts se ho sakta hai, Vande Bharat has been successful

    • @AmartyaRao356
      @AmartyaRao356 Год назад

      @@MrPrandhir hmm oo tohbasa mention kar na

  • @sukhdeepsingh3849
    @sukhdeepsingh3849 Год назад

    One thing can be done..... Defined entry and exit doors may be given which will ease boarding and Deboarding

  • @robo18able
    @robo18able Год назад

    double decker local trains can be implemented with double decker platforms which would need a complete overhaul of station designs

  • @PANKAJPUNDIR1
    @PANKAJPUNDIR1 Год назад

    How about double decker platforms for double decker local trains?

  • @sohamranadepersonal2733
    @sohamranadepersonal2733 Год назад +8

    #AskPt. What are the hurdles faced by MRVC to upgrade signalling systems to CBTC and track designs for high speed rail?

    • @Chaitanya1310
      @Chaitanya1310 Год назад

      Until and unless express/mail lines are completely segregated from local lines this is not possible. Currently fast lines share tracks with express/mail and semi-fast locals change tracks between fast and slow lines. Even if complete segregation is achieved it won't happen that easily. To convert such a large system to CBTC you will have to keep sections of suburban lines closed for months if not a year. This is absolutely not possible in case of Mumbai. The lifeline cannot be stopped for more than 2-3 days.

    • @Chaitanya1310
      @Chaitanya1310 Год назад

      High speed rail is for longer distances and cannot be used for short distance travelling. Converting local trains tracks to high speed would be waste of money.

  • @naiqueb9052
    @naiqueb9052 Год назад

    At ground level we can use electrifying train above we can use metro and we need to update the station so we can use another metros too..

  • @archanbhattacharya1097
    @archanbhattacharya1097 Год назад +7

    Agar train ki design change na karke Stations ko hi double decker kar diya jaye or train ke andar har ek compartment mein ek stair ese adjust kiya jaye jisse upar or niche kahi bhi problem na ho or upar wale upar ke station mein utar jayenge or niche wale niche ki station mein esa ho to kaisa hoga??

    • @demonsshadow6274
      @demonsshadow6274 Год назад +6

      Har station me aise nahi karsakte kyun cost bhi bahut hoga aur feasible nahi kyun station sirf local ke liye nahi bana hai agar upar bhi platform hua to normal express train ko bhi doble decker karna padega jo ki feasible nahi hai

    • @shrin210
      @shrin210 Год назад

      Paisa kon dega 😂😂

    • @Amoghavarsha.
      @Amoghavarsha. Год назад

      Creative idea 💡👌

    • @archanbhattacharya1097
      @archanbhattacharya1097 Год назад

      @@shrin210 Government dega or kon..

    • @shrin210
      @shrin210 Год назад +1

      @@archanbhattacharya1097 Government ko kon dega 😂
      Public toh deti nhi h Free ka local train m karte h

  • @tracksidemike
    @tracksidemike Год назад

    Very cool video New here awesome stuff very cool 👍🏻🚂🎥😎TSM

  • @satishkumarnair9781
    @satishkumarnair9781 Год назад +1

    In Mumbai biggest problem in local train people facing is of not the space but a problem so far ignored by all. The problem is 4 door coaches. Because of this in platform people overcrowding in order to reach doors. At the same time inside the train again people overcrowd near the 4 gates to get easy exit.
    When train come to halt from platform people start climbing even before train stop only to face the people getting ready to alight. This create a he'll of a situation for exit and entry.
    Otherwise inside the train people manage the space available.
    This exit entry problem can be solved only by increasing the doors . A coach can easily redesign with at least 6 or 7 doors in place of 4. This will dispers the density of crowing at 4 to 6 or 7 . Life will be easier. Standing space increasing means better commuting.
    Authority must think about this Otherwise when all trains come with closed door facility travel will become much more difficult as the density of traveling public per minute per train is unbelievable in Mumbai.
    Will anyone in railways start thinking this????

  • @karthikeyareddy6758
    @karthikeyareddy6758 8 месяцев назад

    Well,The mainline double decker is useless for local trains but can design new coaches with big corridor and doors like mini double decker train and best example could be Sydney metro though some would say Sydney has less ridership but if the trains are more frequent it may work

  • @niranjancharantimath2728
    @niranjancharantimath2728 Год назад +3

    #AskPt Can you please say something about unknown planned city 'New Bagalkot' which exactly resembles Chandigarh

  • @navnitsrivastava4062
    @navnitsrivastava4062 Год назад

    I m in railway signal dept.
    Mumbai suburban root are already automated signal..
    Only solution is either make metro route or extra track for local..

  • @ronnien8068
    @ronnien8068 Год назад +7

    It's not a stupid idea. AC trains halt much more time than normal train. If Railway afford that time this is affordable too.
    Also, it lower deck can be made same as metro where more standing should be there and Upper deck should focus for Long distant passenger with seatings seat. Moreover, Doors should be automatic too though it's Non-Ac Train as our windows are big enough and some ventilation design can be added.

    • @drtushar2919
      @drtushar2919 Год назад

      Exactly.... This guy thinks he knows everything

  • @10hawell
    @10hawell 6 месяцев назад

    Double decker inner city trains can only be viable if you have separate upper and lower deck entrances and ramps and crowd control bariers. It's very specialised solutions done in only few places and it breaks the platform for standard trains.
    Double deckers in normal set up should be only be used in long distance routes.

  • @karthikeyakrishna4133
    @karthikeyakrishna4133 Год назад

    Absolutely enjoy your content. Although, I do have a suggestion, consider making them in English.

  • @samkedar
    @samkedar Год назад

    Wait for metro network to build out and expressways to complete. This pressure might not exist.
    If you still want double decker, think as stacked. Top layer will exit on its own platform level

  • @rohanmangale5990
    @rohanmangale5990 Год назад +4

    A major problem with big infrastructures is once they are built then it becomes really difficult to modify them.

  • @burstrush8389
    @burstrush8389 Год назад

    what if they start running short distance trains like Dadar to churchgate or bandra to dadar, and have sittings like metro, people can travel while standing for few minutes, creating separate platforms for the short distance train will not affect the traffic of regular trains, this might not solve the problem of overcrowding, but will provide relief to the passengers who travel on short distances.

  • @rajdeepsen1348
    @rajdeepsen1348 Год назад +2

    Well you should see the Sydney local train, it is a double decker train with more space and comfort.
    I think indian railway should make double decker local train like Sydney.

    • @yadav_rahul
      @yadav_rahul Год назад

      true I live in Sydney and mostly I take train, its so comfortable. 99% times you will get the seats. You can enjoy your coffee.

  • @sachinmestry6174
    @sachinmestry6174 Год назад

    Need bothside platform like Thane Vashi track, also need 5 AC dibbas and other NON AC in local trains.

  • @bshourov1
    @bshourov1 Год назад

    What about two deck platforms as a solution.

  • @amitsaroj2504
    @amitsaroj2504 Год назад

    One thing that can reduce crowd in Mumbai local that setup industries and businesses in all other cities like vododra Surat Lucknow kanpur Bhopal itarsi Indore jabalpur etc

  • @sahilsatishpandit4083
    @sahilsatishpandit4083 Год назад +1

    I have a thought.
    Running only fast local trains In speed of 160.
    Trains will have automatic doors and no seats inside the train. More people can be accommodated.
    I think train should be 15 coaches and run only between CSMT and Kalyan.(I am considering Central Line only)
    Travel time from CSMT to kalyan even in fast train takes 1hour because average train speed is only 50-60kmph. If the speed is almost tripled then time taken will be only around 20mins from Kalyan to CSMT for which commuters can stand. And mostly people get down at Dadar only.
    I think train can halt at Kalyan, Dombivali, Thane, Ghatkopar,Kurla,Dadar and Direct CSMT.
    I think this thought is ridiculous but it would be quiet nice

    • @petercastellino6997
      @petercastellino6997 Год назад

      FROM MR PETER CASTELLINO , BOMBAY , 23-4-2023.
      I FULLY DISAGREE BECAUSE PEOPLE NEED TO BE FULLY RELAXED WHENEVER THEY TRAVEL .

  • @me.arbaazkhatib
    @me.arbaazkhatib Год назад +3

    I believe the doorway passage is important but the bogey design needs improvement if we rearrange the seating each bogey can accommodate more passengers easily.
    I see this personally if the seats took less space people can come in and out more easily and breathability will improve.

    • @vegetal8460
      @vegetal8460 Год назад

      I think we should focus on population decline better for upcoming generations.

  • @neltondsouza6334
    @neltondsouza6334 Год назад +1

    @powertrain I beg to differ. Double Decker trains is not a stupid idea. Sydney Australia is a perfect example. But yes, for it to be effective in Bombay given the population, other modes of transport need to developed first. So may be around 2030 once the metro system is established and becomes the main mode of public transport.

  • @rajeshpagare8889
    @rajeshpagare8889 Год назад

    Very difficult
    Power supply cables wud b major hurdle
    Over head traffic bridges wud b second hurdle
    Rake design has to b changed thoroughly and its nt possible
    But yes, purely new rake has to b designed as per mail express double decker coaches
    Passengers themselves hv to maintain some rules thn only its possible

  • @anujsingh4873
    @anujsingh4873 Год назад +6

    #askpt Instead of double decker trains, why can't we have double floor railway tracks. It will take huge cost. But considering land cost of Mumbai it will have good return to scale

    • @sujalgarewal2685
      @sujalgarewal2685 Год назад +5

      Yeah even I was thinking that but I see two issues.
      First is something he already highlighted, the increased heights would require higher power lines, brigdes, underpasses etc. That would be very costly.
      Secondly, making train higher would result in a higher center of gravity. That would increase the risk trains toppling over at high speeds. The way to counter this would be to increase the gauge length, which would be insanely expensive.

    • @rohanmangale5990
      @rohanmangale5990 Год назад +2

      You mean a elevated track on the existing tracks. Yaa this will be costly but even if we try to build this it would be a challenge as the elevated track needs to be created without hampering the trains flow beneath it. Plus all the platforms also need to be also elevated.

  • @ashishjain2345
    @ashishjain2345 Год назад +1

    The only solution for the crowd of Mumbai's local train is decentralize the south Mumbai businesses

  • @KanishQQuotes
    @KanishQQuotes Год назад

    It needs more frequency.
    That's the only solution.
    Expand stations and add more lines.
    Perhaps most stations with 4 lines, so slow and fast go together.
    There's no other solution.
    Double decker only makes sense for shuttle service
    I'm fearing with metro, local train will be ignored.

  • @sanchayansarkar2953
    @sanchayansarkar2953 Год назад +1

    The only solution to this is more frequent trains and a bigger network have most last mile connectivity. Double decker is an useless idea. Double decker only good for long journey luxury trains to keep the prices down.

  • @mallanathmukherjee4184
    @mallanathmukherjee4184 Год назад +4

    We should redevelop this local train system like tokoyo local trains

  • @jaybagwe7316
    @jaybagwe7316 Год назад

    I think their shoud be metro seating aarange ment type coach in local for shot distance travelers who don't want seats just wana travel standing

  • @hiralpatel7170
    @hiralpatel7170 Год назад

    Best option he ki seats hi nikal de sab log khade khade jayenge aur space bhi badh jayega secondly doors aur wide kar dene chahiye jisse logo ko chadhne utarne aur chadne me dikkat na ho aur ye trains only office hours ya rush hours ke time hi chalani chahiye

  • @sagarkamble1867
    @sagarkamble1867 Год назад

    Instead of double decker trains, we can have bridges over existing local network and run trains on both tracks (on Bridge and Normal Track)
    also at station level we can have platform on bridge itself, to minimize infrastructure rework we can have only fast stations such as Thane, Ghatkopar, Kurla, Dadar, CSMT as double platform stations so that fast trains will run on bridges and slow trains will run on below normal tracks. also wherever road bridges crossing over rail line we need to elevate these bridges as we have done in Metros. This will surely double the capacity if we manage crowds at stations particularly fast stations. this will generate revenue to railways in long run such as extra space for shops and advertisement. Also considering special trains for long distance trips such as Badlapur, Virar which will not halt at unnecessary stations which will reduce travel time for long distance commuters.

  • @soumyajitmaz6230
    @soumyajitmaz6230 Год назад +1

    Railway chahe to 400 vande Bharat me 50 DOUBLE DECKER VANDE BHARAT bhi la sakta hai specially un route me jaha already double stack container, double decker, Autolinx car carrier chal rahi hai

  • @vinodande9755
    @vinodande9755 Год назад

    We provide them charchgte to virar and centre line CSTM to kajrat route and kasara route

  • @kgiplmdrf9488
    @kgiplmdrf9488 Год назад +1

    I got to know that dd coach and ac3tier coaches have same height, because dd has almost flat roof and ac3 has kind of parabolic cross section roof, dd loooks af it's unusually large, but it reaches same height has ac3tier's extra roof dome height, so height is not a problem

  • @P_rince24
    @P_rince24 Год назад

    make road connectivity from Virar Vasai and also trams track

  • @utsavmahadik7602
    @utsavmahadik7602 Год назад

    By seeing yr video i assume that u dont travel by mumbai local
    Atleast on he western line
    Cuz when a virar fast arrives at dadar, it gets full by people living at vasai virar
    And mostly there only it gets emptied
    And also the most impt thing
    People living in borivali bhayandar area dont even get to get out or get down from the train as the doors are already packed by virar peps
    Soo assuming that a double decker train is operational here
    All the vasai virar peoples will go on the upper side
    And all the other stations peps will be in the lower side

  • @sujitsalvi7621
    @sujitsalvi7621 Год назад

    Ye kaam Japan ya China valo ko dedo acche se ho jayega. Double decker metro possible hai. Agar upar ke deck me sirf seats aur niche sirf standing too sab aram se jayenge. Lekin hume R&D hi nahi karni.

  • @bhavikbharadiya3078
    @bhavikbharadiya3078 Год назад

    What about developing metro in Mumbai like Delhi metro?

  • @Indianrailways11
    @Indianrailways11 10 месяцев назад

    But they can use flying ranee and Valsad fast passenger coaches

  • @hemantsharma9474
    @hemantsharma9474 Год назад

    What about Mumbai to Nashik & Mumbai to Pune Local train???

  • @omidaeducation7465
    @omidaeducation7465 Год назад

    Nice logic, but it's not trains design issue, it's mumbai infrastructure issue. Routes are not change from long time..

  • @yourfavourite3101
    @yourfavourite3101 Год назад

    What if locals have two door to enter and exit

  • @abhishekpanwar786
    @abhishekpanwar786 3 месяца назад

    Local train to vardan he ek mumbaikar k liye har 5 min me free yatra itni tez...uske baad metro bhi har jagah vaha ban jana chahiye ...mumbai jesi city me kahi bhi metro bana do chalegi hi..vo bhi full capacity pr....underground metro bhi aur banna cahhiye mumbai me...dusara thoda auto valo kam karna cahhiaye...tisra car valo ko alternate days chalane ka rule bana do

  • @VRailfanGuy
    @VRailfanGuy Год назад +3

    Instead of making DD local trains, WR/CR can make use of metro-like design in the current locals. In metro, there is more space for standing and less place for sitting, if this is used then capacity can increase because of loss of seats. This is my opinion which could work but only thing that can save overcrowding is automatic doors and Mumbai metro

    • @prasannask8320
      @prasannask8320 Год назад

      they tried that by cutting the seat size,
      i have been in such a train, people didnt like it much

    • @jayeshchoudhary2570
      @jayeshchoudhary2570 Год назад

      But there are people who travel from Andheri to CST or kalyan to nerul for office and college due to which they need seats so that they can atleast sit for some time and take rest

    • @VRailfanGuy
      @VRailfanGuy Год назад

      @@jayeshchoudhary2570 That is true but because of overcrowding too people lose their lives

  • @DraGon1229
    @DraGon1229 Год назад +10

    #AskPT why indian railways have open tracks and why railway isn't building separation so people don't fall on tracks

    • @atharvagarwal325
      @atharvagarwal325 Год назад +3

      tracks do area ko divide kar deta he log jab bhi ddiwar faand ke jayenge. kbhi metropolitan se bhar aoa

    • @DraGon1229
      @DraGon1229 Год назад +2

      @@atharvagarwal325 gate ki baat karra hu jahan log chadte hai train me poora line ki baat ni karra hu

  • @Fit_Hai_India
    @Fit_Hai_India Год назад

    Local mein seat ko hata Dene se problem solve ho sakhti hain

  • @sanjoybhattacharjee8731
    @sanjoybhattacharjee8731 Год назад

    A circular track,a circular full track length train ,a circular full length track above it ,a short length train above it , successively with low speed .

  • @sreeragnair4090
    @sreeragnair4090 Год назад

    Why is everyone talking about making a new transport system to decrease the crowd rather than city planning, making new cities and encouraging companies to build new offices in the outermost parts of Mumbai metropolitan city maybe even outside kalyan-dombivli city? That way you can change the crowd moving patterns and decrease the crowd and the most important advantage is saving time which mumbai needs it.

    • @sreeragnair4090
      @sreeragnair4090 Год назад

      I think this channel can make a video on this very topic.

  • @vikas11885
    @vikas11885 Год назад

    DFC ki tarah HT line ki hight badha de to coch me head room jyada milega

  • @AsperK.22
    @AsperK.22 Год назад +3

    #AskPT mumbai local trains loses 20% rider ship in 3 years, when metro will dominate in mumbai so what will be the future of mumbai railway? Do mumbai railway have to dismantle suburban trains or it will will have to replace with another rapid transit system? The end is near. Mumbai local is going to extinct so many factors like metros and private vehicle s and better roadways.

  • @ms.550
    @ms.550 Год назад

    Frequency badhana hoga inko jaise metro har 5min me hoti hai, waise aur fast service.

  • @ATHxSTORM
    @ATHxSTORM Год назад

    You have add one more time
    Sab logon ko apne station pe pehle utarna hota hai crowd ki vajhah se jara bhi late ho gaye to sidha next next to log 1station pehle hi corridor mein ate hai or vo duble decker mein possible hi nahi hai