GOOD Budget 10mm AMMO?....AAC 180 Grain XTP Self-Defense Ammo Ballistic Gel Test!
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- Опубликовано: 12 янв 2024
- Checking out some AAC 10mm ammo from Palmetto State Armory. Could this be the best budget option for 10mm? Heavy clothing ballistic gel test using a Glock 20 and 29!
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Another benefit with AAC is that they aren’t contracted by the government (at least not to my knowledge). Being completely reliant on the commercial side means our pathetic politicians can’t influence them or impact production which maintains a dependable supply. I hope to see AAC grow grow grow… imma supporting them.
Yup! Made 2 videos of 10mm and .40 AAC myself. It’s perfect in price, velocity, and their FMJ and XTP!😎👍🏽
I just bought 1000 rds of 5.56 55 gr. The AAC 77 gr (either sierra or housemade projectiles) has been very awesome for the money
The fact that they are not tied to the Gov. is probably the reason they'll do well as a company!
Palmetto State Armory owns AAC. They are a private company.
@@walkingwolf8072what do you mean POW? we talking stock prices? What am I missing?
Gotta love PSA for offering a lot of good products at great prices.
The wussies won't ship anything to Massachusetts, not even a key chain.
Yep, just bought 2 boxes, keep up the good work! Gonna be handloading the 10mm soon so I can get some true performance without spending 2 bucks a round.
Pretty decent performance for a budget round. Another 100 FPS might have fragmented it. Good to see the G29 on the channel, I carried one for years and still pop it on my belt now and again.
Yessir. Not bad for cheap stuff.😎👍
I push the same XTP to 1320 fps without having it fragment. It stays together well.
Don't think it's anywhere near fragmenting.
I imagine that meaningful fragmentation may take place if it gets somewhere between 1300 - 1400 fps. Possibly a 6" barrel like a G40 or 1911 long slide might get it there.
I handload 180gn XTP to 1400fps using 17gns lil gun and 6.61” lone wolf compensated barrel. This is a great example of what it does downrange at impact area. The XTP seems to hold together but it does peel back a ways.
"10 mm lite" cracked me up!
Palmetto gets a bad rap at times, but I've only had good experiences with them. Glad your test came up "decent"
They janked me on an out of spec 300blk chf complete upper, dust cover pin hole way off and cover had a big gap on one side. They would not trade out.
They tried to rip me off too. Ordered 6 boxes of ammo and they shipped 5. Emailed them and two weeks later I had to call them back to get an answer. They wanted pictures of the original packaging. I had already shot the ammo and threw away the trash, but I sent them the packaging slip. They said too bad, without pictures of the original packaging I was SOL. I told them that I was a Veteran and they would be stealing from one. Their response was, “I don’t care. No pictures, no refund!” I was shocked. I contacted the BBB, filed a complaint and called my bank and filed a dispute for 1 box of ammo, not the whole order. It was $28. They blocked my account. I called them again and asked why. They said that I violated their policy customer guidelines because I filed a dispute and got my money back. I know a few people have had this issue and it is disappointing because I like their products. It is good stuff.
That's the thing, AAC ammo doesn't pretend to get higher numbers. They don't use a 16 inch barrel and use those numbers. You get what you get and it works and it's reasonably priced. I've been buying their 115 gr 9mm xtp for a while now. It's hard to find so I picked up some Winchester white box jhp's recently, but AAC is my favorite ammunition company right now.
Gotta love the honest numbers.😎👊
@@ToolsandTargets absolutely. Idk why so many companies fudge their numbers when every round ever is being tested on RUclips. They can fool some people but really it's bad business.
I think for most people, either gun with this ammo is more than up to the task of self defense. Do you want better concealment or more round capacity? You can't go wrong with either one.
Another good one Tools ! That was pretty impressive for budget bullets ! PSA has good deals for us poor folks looking for ammo deals ! I would feel good carrying that for self defense !
It really surprised me.😎👍
AAC is my fav practice ammo. I had no idea it would perform so well for the low price. Another test just for me 😅 thanks buddy
The g40 might get that ammo close to 1300. Glad to see the AAC met most expectations.
You beat me to it lol. Yes G40!
@@Lee-ty2go maybe we can talk T&T into getting a G40 to do 10mm testing with?
Or a G40 barrel in the G20? 🤔
@@coldfront7914 He can buy a G40 complete slide from KM Tactical and it will fit right on that Gen 4 G20 frame 😎
That also works. It's cheaper and I have a buddy that runs that exact setup. Just looks weird lol
Even the Glock 20's 4.6" barrel is considered short for a lot of 10mm load data that I've researched. Typically 5 through 6 inch barrels are shown for the test barrel lengths in 10mm. That ammo is decent with accurate claims. I load my 180 grain XTPs to 1270 fps average out of my Glock 20SF with a 4.6" KKM barrel. The XTP starts to shed a lot of weight nearing 1300 FPS...
Faster than I thought it might be especially out of the 29. Looks like good carry ammo for a nice bargain. Expanded well & recoil didn't look bad with the shorter gripped 29. Nice results! 🙏👍💥
Yep. recoil was very mild even from the 29.😎👊
Only .50 cents a round too
@@ToolsandTargetsPretty good on energy for a defensive round except for bear or moose territory or Bigfoot. Better than some 45 or 357 loads.
Another win for PSA/AAC. Great test as always, brother.
Awesome to see this is a decent round. Had picked up a bunch a while back but hadn’t shot any yet.
For all of the really wimpy 10mm loads acting like a hot 40 pretty impressed. Nice it hit listed speeds in the G 20 and did good in the jelly. Thanks for the test Tools!
I love AAC ammo ive stocked up on alot of 5.56 and 9mm its cheap and very good ammo for the price and with todays world ammo is a must to have stocked piled
Really appreciate you taking the time to test this AAC 10mm ammo. I wish I had watched this before I had sunk a lot of money trying to get my supply of 10mm ammo up to par. Again I really like your videos and you are a credit to RUclips as a whole. Keep up the great work my friend and range buddy!
I'm impressed! I went and looked at some pricing and that's a lot of performance for the price! While I have been bitching for years about the weak 10mm available, this may not be full power but it's better than a lot of stuff costing double and is loaded with an excellent bullet. Not only is it a good bullet but it's going fast enough to work as designed! Thanks again for the good work Tools!
On a side note I guessed 60-70 fps slower in the model 29 because that's the difference I see from a 5"1911 to a 4.25" commander 😉
Another good test and commentary in the books. It is really good to see the AAC perform really well. Thinking about a S&W performance center 10mm. Good to see the AAC perform better than others and is priced pretty good as well. Thanks a bunch for doing the extra barrel lengths as well. I think you did by getting the extra Tool. Thanks for sharing and be safe. ⭐️⭐️🇺🇸⭐️⭐️
I've been passing by these on the shelf when I'm in PSA. Next time, I'll pick some up. Thanks for the test, Tools, good stuff.
That definitely was a pleasant surprise. Will have to pick some up in the near future.
Thanks for testing these, I was one of the people that asked. I think these are a great buy and the fmj 10mm AAC is by far the best range ammo I have used. It's a little spicy, compared to Armscor, blazer, federal fmj. I am very much looking forward to the Norma 10mm mph test next...I saw the weekly ammo video 😂🎉🎉
.40 sw 180gr xtp with 8gr of Longshot (book max but below saami max) runs 1214fps out of my p226 .40 with 4.4" barrel. 1240 out of my G35. Pushing the xtp much faster only causes fragmentation so no need for more speed.
Outstanding review, my friend! Just ordered some of that 10mm. Have been wondering about this stuff. Appreciate all the effort that you put into your content 🙏🏿🇺🇸
I CARRY AAC AND PRACTICE WITH THIS AND ALSO THE MAGTECH 180 JHP.
Excellent job evaluating 10mm ammo, as usual. I look forward to every new evaluation you produce. You're fair and to the point. Nice work!!
Glad the AAC did well. Thanks Tools!
In 10mm I prefer a 6" barrel. It makes a huge difference in performance. Ditto for a .357 Magnum.
Been a big fan of AAC ammo for a while now. Shoot several different calibers of it just plinking but all is super consistent and surprisingly accurate at distance .
Excellent demo, Tools. I'll have to check those out at PSA.
In my 5" 1911 Kimber in 10mm, the 180gr XTP Hornady Custom factory load is moving at 1220fps. It expands and pentrates well. So if you can get the AAC load to go that fast, it is probably optimum for that bullet. In my testing, I got the same results you did. Bottom line, it would make a very dependable self defence round.
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Not bad. Did what the box said and expanded nice. I'd run it for 2 legged critters. Looking forward to more out of that G29.
Another great vid hat man. Stay safe with the snow storm coming in
Nice! Good performance! Thanks for the review! I handload for my 10mm for the very reason that you say - it's really hard to find properly loaded ammo.
Sometimes 100 to 200 fps slower ammo actually penetrates a little better maybe cause it expands a little less
Glad to see that the 10mm has made a real comeback.
Thank you for the test, which shows how versatile the round is.
If you want original 10mm power you can find it, with some looking. If 10mm -P is what you want you can have that as well..
I’ve picked up a couple boxes of these just due to the price. Glad to see it performed decent. I use it in my G29 gen 4, so very happy to see that’s what I should get performance wise. Thanks for everything you do sir!
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Awesome test! I bought two boxes the last time I was at PSA. Great stuff.
I have been waiting for this round to be tested!!
Very good test with good results, Keep them videos rocking buddy
Nice to know that well performing budget 10mm ammo is out there. Works for me. Thanks.
Saw this load the other day. Glad to see the test. Stay warm brother.
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Another small ton. Not sure how I miss every video with clean jel but I appreciate the heck out of you and what you do for us all!
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I saw another 10mm test and couldn't resist Tools. It's good to see you finally "happy" with a 10mm round performance. Looks like all those high-priced want-a-be 10mm manufactures have some real competition now. Now if they could just bump up the speed.
Be vigilant and always be safe my friend.
Yeah, a little more spice and this would be really nice.😎👊
You're a poet Tools.
Well done video and test + shooting skills ! Nice - thank you big buddy .
Another great video. Just picked up some night sights and have a new holster on the way for my 10mm.
AAC is solid stuff. This 10mm is great range ammo and I wouldn’t hesitate to carry it for hog or black bear defense. I have a performance center mp 10mm and I was getting 1250 fps plus out of the 5” barrel. It’s better than ammo costing much more. The 40 sw aac is solid to I had the same round 180gr xtp well over 1100 fps once again out of a 5” barrel. Not tested the 45 but it seemed like serviceable range stuff. Great video keep them coming. When you post a new video I go straight to it every time!
Now thats some 10mm ammo I could get behind for practice as well! Another great test Tools!
Great video! Good info!! Thank you bro!!!
Dang, that's hella good performance for the price! Good test.
This is a worth buying ammo. Damn good performance for a budget ammo. Thanks for the test.
Appreciate the video. Ended up buying some boxes of this and their range version. I got XTP from Underwood but would like to shoot XTP for training as well and the price of this is cheaper than a lot of fmj range offerings.
The temperature is 15° just outside of chicago. So a little chilly seems perty comfortable to me.
Personally, I am all over the place. With my first choice of a first firearm. 1. 44 Magnum, 10mm, .327 federal magnum. Which performs very well as well.
Good looking stuff. I hope PSA can keep the prices steady. This also makes me respect the HST 9mm +P 124 grain you tested that much more. Similar penetration and 95% of the expansion out of a 9. 😮 I’m sure once you start introducing barriers/clothing layers you’d see a bigger difference though.
yep..ive been grabbing it when it comes available...at 26 bucks its a steal. my local shop wants 38 a box for fmj federal...i carry the high dollar hard cast in the woods but feel comfortable with the aac xtp for any 2 legged threat. thanks for all the 10mm vids.
High dollar and hard cast seem strange. that's nearly the cheapest thing to hand load in 44 mag
@@WayStedYou i guess its hi dollar because it is kind of scarce..buffalo bore full power hard cast is 2.25/round..this stuff is pretty good at 50 cents.
Not bad performance from the rounds . Thanks for sharing the video and information.
C'mon TNT, please add the long slide G40 10mm to the lineup. Some of us want to see the results for the longer barrel! Again, great content!
Great channel! I’m a new subscriber and can’t wait for the video of the Norma MHP you picked up.
Thank you sir. Gonna try to get that one done this coming week.😎👊
Actually looks pretty good to some of the higher priced ammo you've tested I do believe I would buy this good video tools thanks Tools for the test you do for us all.
Really freaking good video! Thank you kindly sir!
Absolutely impressive for the price! I bought 2 boxes. I don’t have to have top velocity but this is better than many. And the xtp bullet is awesome awesome.
15-17 inches. You sure predicted that perfectly! Love your videos.
That 155 grain underwood you tested looked pretty dang good too. That seemed like a full power load.
I like the addition of the 3.8 barrel. I carry a springfield 3.8.
I use S&B JHP as my range ammo. After watching this vid, AAC 10mm 180gr JHP will be my range ammo. I also shoot their 300BLK Black Sabre bc of your informative videos. Thanks!!
A couple nights ago you didn't have one single video up on your channel. I'm not sure if it was "You Tube" messing with you, or if you were re-organizing your channel. But I'm glad to see that you're still here.
I was mind blown by the "Underwood" 38 special video you did. I had always thought "Underwood" & "Buffalo Bore" were the best for a 38' special load. Now I'm wondering if "Buffalo Bore" is underloading their ammo too. I can't wait to see you get around to testing them again. The "Speer Gold Dot" 125gr +p looked to be a waste of money for a +P round.
If I had it to do all over again, I would have bought the 605 instead of that 856'. 5 rounds of 357 are a lot more trust worthy out of a 2" barrel with a lot more ammo options too. Finding a powerful 38 special round isn't easy. What do we have? Buffalo Bore, Remington HTP, Federal Punch and Silver Tips? I'm not feeling so good about the "Underwood" anymore.
If it wasn't for you showing how these brands perform I wouldn't have a clue as to what to C&C. Thanks for all your hard work. You deserve a metal for all your video's. Peace.. Joe
What?!?! Definitely wasn't me but I would have freaked out if I saw that.😆 I have noticed sometimes my studio view is lagged or messed up when they do "updates." or whatever it is they're doing. I was just looking the other day at 38 special videos trying to come up with what I think did the best. You pretty much nailed the ones I picked out. I'm actually gonna do a couple new .38 special shorty tests just to verify and try to nail down a few good ones.😎👊
@@ToolsandTargets Always looking forward to watching those. It was just your channel that didn't have any content. all the other channels in my list had content. That's kind of shady on YT part. Just keep in mind that I told you about it. That way if someone else ever tells you that that happened you can know something strange is going on. Take good care. Peace.. Joe
Finally a pass from descent price ammo and yes shame on the others but I do have high hopes for the grizzly ammo coming up
Yes LOVE the 357sig tests
Got one coming tomorrow.😎👊
@ToolsandTargets thanks so much Tools...YOU ARE THE BEST 👌 🇺🇸
Very nice! I am impressed, especially considering the price. I will definitely be picking some of this up. Thanks again Tools!
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I love my Glock 29SF. Upgraded the stock barrel to KKM for more chamber support. Chuck from Alaskan Ballistics recommends KKM barrels for Glock 10mm's.
Nice 😎👊
Now you need the g40 longslide 10mm
Very nice performance, it's nice to have other options, appreciate ya T&T.
Yessir. The only reason this stuff didn't get the rant was the price/performance factor. It's weak for 10mm but at least they priced it accordingly.😎👊
Have you tested it in the 40s&w yet if so i must have missed it, i really appreciate your honesty when doing these tests keep up the great job
Good test. XTP's work great when pushed fast enough.
Great ammo. Performs great and the cost can’t be beat. Perfect for practice and stocking up. Underwood is still my carry ammo, but if I had to this will be fine.
I'm about to purchase this round for my 10 mil carry ammo along with their range ammo for training. I'm on a budget. Thanks for the great review.
I get the reasons for downloading 10mm to reduce recoil and not having an over power load for carry. It's more than a .40 but not a real 10mm. I'm with you on the fact we need and want REAL 10mm! I still want something more for hunting and certain situations where I feel like I could use all the power and penetration I can get.
If it has a hollow point.... It should be full power. If it's fmj, I'd be happy with "average" power. I feel that to be true with 9mm too. I don't need +P fmj... But my hollow points better be packing heat!
Glad to see this video just bought a bunch of this they had a special took a chance
Success. Even for woods carry. A bit more penetration would be better for woods. But self defense this would be extremely effective.
I carried a G29 for woods and a little edc a few years ago. Looks really good from here. Thank you.
For the cost, I couldn't give it too hard of a time.😎👊
I’m so sorry that it’s so cold there 🙄
It was -14° last night in Idaho with 15 mph winds. I’m so damn jealous that you’re standing on dirt! 😂
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Sweet. This ammo makes the G29 a nice carry option. Great find. Now you got me curious if Buffalo Bore can get that much more out of the shorter barrel 🤔 If anything, this AAC would make quality range ammo.
And it helped prove my thought from yesterday -- that XTP rounds only work in the faster calibers.
Great test, Tools. Stay warm. 🔥
I'm definitely gonna be seeing what I lose from BB and that 155 UW stuff.😎👊
Well, I was wondering what to get for practice ammo. I'll get Buffalo Bore for the spicy, duty type rounds but AAC's FMJ rounds might be a decent range practice since they've got the same 1200 FPS rating as these JHPs.
Darn it Tools & Target! Now I have to go back to the flagship store of Palmetto State Armory in Columbia, SC and buy a couple of boxes of this 10 MM Auto for my stockpile....👍👍👍👍👍
Another great video!
Very nice results on the 180gr. 10mm Tools 🇺🇸👊
Very good performance! AAC might start making a +p version. I wouldn’t mind to have a +p version in 9 mm. Love seeing some good performance after those pitiful 38 special underwood’s!👍🏻
With 10mm Auto, ammunition is made in two general categories: 10mm Lite and 10mm Norma Spec (the original loadings designed specifically to stop violent human threats). Because LE personnel are generally not shooters, they couldn’t handle the heavier recoiling norma spec, thus the lite was developed and ended up in the .40 S&W (trying to keep the message brief, lol). Also, early 10mm guns were breaking… anyway, the only companies I believe making norma spec ammunition are Underwood, Buffalo Bore and Double Tap. Other companies are teetering on it with 180s advertised at 1,250, but that’s probably from a 6-inch (or longer) barrel. IMHO, 180s should be traveling 1,300-1,350 fps. 200s at 1,250 - 1,300 fps. and 165s at 1,400fps … from 5-inch barrels.
I like to see Norma spec velocities from a 5-inch barrel. That was the barrel length on the Bren Ten. With that, I accept the normal loss in velocity when I carry/shoot my XTEN Comp with its 3.8 in barrel nestled in a comped 4.25 in slide.
🤘 😁 🤘 I love the g29 setup you have. I always wanted to get one with that exact magazine plate and a g20 mag for backup. Throw a small tact light on there, hybrid holster, be a great edc!
You're reading my mind. I actually have a few more goodies on the way for it.😎👊
Dude! Here comes the snow. Be safe in that weather.
A buddy of mine swears by aac for the range... cheap and reliable. That being said I picked up a case of Magtech for $400 shipped and just put 300 thru my EDC today, zero hickups. It's spicy for range stuff...I like it 💯😎
Got some really old 155 grain XTP loads with the older cardboard box. I wonder how they will do out of the 6 inch glock 40 that I have.
Glad to see the G29 added to the mix. Can't wait for the Buffalo Bore, Underwood, Grizzly ammo tests.
Good stuff man!!!❤❤❤
I've shot about 500 rounds of AAC 10MM 180 FMJ....stuff shoots great out of my Xten.
Thanks for the video. Looks and sounds like that I bought something good for my new tool and all the other ones.
I have been reloading my own 10mm for the range. I don't load it to the max as I do not want a case to blow out on multiple times fired brass due to the unsupported chamber. But I am not paying 10mm for a 40S&W power level. If I am buying full power 10mm I always look at the stats. I really didn't think an inch of barrel would have that big of a difference in your testing.
Good ammo for guys that want to train a lot using ammo they carry. You can carry that with confidence. I love the XTP bullets. Put enough speed behind it and it'll perform.
Now you need to get you a TNW Survival Carbine in 10mm. Nothing like having a pistol and carbine combo that not only uses the same ammo, but the same magazine as well. And if this 10mm does this decently out of the 29, imagine what it will do out of a 16 in barrel. And it's good to see a successful test after that dismal 38 not so special. Cheers
Based on this video, I bought four boxes of the reviewed ammo for my brand new Blue Label Gen 5 MOS G20. I hope you can get an affiliate link with palmetto state armory because I buy a lot of stuff from them and would love to help you out. Just received my Armalite M15 from PSA on a crazy almost half-off ‘clearance’ price. You are an amazing resource. Thank you and Blessings
Appreciate that! I do have affiliate links for PSA here on my Campsite page. YT will ding me if it's linked directly. They're "special." campsite.bio/toolsandtargets
not bad. usually grizzly, buffalo bore & underwood goes hot. sometimes have to go light like 100 grain or similar. remington & winchester go weak sometimes.
I would kinda like to see you test some Fiocchi loads in 9mm & 45 ACP one day & im not sure what else you haven't tested yet.. maybe you can do some buffalo bore 9mm, 40 & 45 ACP.. 10mm gold dots or Georgia arms loaded with gold dot projectiles in 10mm would be pretty cool.. i like when you do 556, 7.62×39 30-30 45-70 & 308 testing too
Man that actually surprised me a lot !
Same here. Not what I wanna see form good hot 10mm, but they at least priced it knowing that unlike so many others charging premium prices for run of the mill rounds.