How One Hurricane Could Lead To A Global Tech Shortage

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  • Опубликовано: 27 ноя 2024

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  • @microcomputermaster
    @microcomputermaster 3 часа назад +53

    This all applies to solar panels too. The silicon wafers in modern solar panels are made with virtually the same process that makes silicon wafers for chips, and also relies on high purity quartz crucibles.

    • @iainburgess8577
      @iainburgess8577 17 минут назад

      Yes; however, there's already been lots of research into alternate solar tech; simply because silicon solar is already its efficiency limit (based on the physical and chemical properties of silicon).
      So there are viable alternatives to silicon solar... which probably uses waste silicon from microchip production anyway; the cones of a boule, cutting waste, any boule that wasn't up to spec for microchips.

  • @davidtindell950
    @davidtindell950 2 часа назад +88

    just a thought ... why don't chip companies provide help for the town ? Oh, no that would impact their immediate and vulgar profits by 0.000001 %

    • @CarlyRivers_91
      @CarlyRivers_91 2 часа назад +4

      yeah really

    • @danieldoyle5840
      @danieldoyle5840 Час назад

      Because fema can’t condemn the land and buy it up from the people to sell to the mining companies. Land grab

    • @TadeoDOria
      @TadeoDOria Час назад +7

      The video touches on this but I think didn't make as good a job as possible I think. The problem isn't the town itself, but the mining companies who extract the quartz, and those are extremely secretive due to all the industrial secrets so it's impossible to tell how much their output was affected.
      The semiconductor foundries themselves (not chip companies, some have foundries and some don't, it's not the same thing. Apple or Nvidia for example don't manufacture most of their chips, TSMC in Taiwan does) haven't been affected yet because they have large stockpiles of reserves. So it *could* become an issue in about 5 years if those stockpiles deplete, or it could be all smooth sailing if the mining companies restore pre-hurracane outputs before that happens.

    • @MicahScottPnD
      @MicahScottPnD Час назад +1

      @@davidtindell950 Is that cents per million, or dollars per million?

    • @goosenotmaverick1156
      @goosenotmaverick1156 43 минуты назад +1

      ​@@MicahScottPnD I think it's $10 per million, if I did that right. Which is more, but per MILLION.... that's like me having to give someone a nickel or something.

  • @qwaqwa1960
    @qwaqwa1960 3 часа назад +29

    0.1% is 1,000 ppm.

  • @Phoenix-et1vw
    @Phoenix-et1vw 3 часа назад +53

    It’s really like Armageddon up there, people in the mountains that lost their homes never had flood insurance and nothing looks the same

    • @lithic2331
      @lithic2331 2 часа назад +13

      In fairness, if they had had flood insurance the insurance companies would still do their best not to pay out, and now that more areas are being hit by floods, insurance companies are just... pulling the option to even get insurance.

    • @Phoenix-et1vw
      @Phoenix-et1vw 2 часа назад

      @@lithic2331 that is true, I have a friend who used to work for insurance companies. Apparently there is a type of job where you’re supposed to find every loophole in the request so that the insurance company doesn’t have to pay

    • @carpemkarzi
      @carpemkarzi Час назад +1

      That’s brutal. I wish them well but sadly that’s all I can do

    • @25aspooner
      @25aspooner Час назад

      @@lithic2331 This is true. I live in New Orleans and there are fewer and fewer companies that will cover homes.

  • @Adventurealliancekerala
    @Adventurealliancekerala 3 часа назад +35

    A tiny town in North Carolina is responsible for TikToks and space missions. I bet Spruce Pine never saw this coming when they named the place.

    • @MicahScottPnD
      @MicahScottPnD 2 часа назад +6

      Yep, that's one tall pine, reaching into the depths of the universe.

    • @Offutticus
      @Offutticus Час назад

      Could be worse. Could be Lick Skillet (now called Leicester).

    • @RePeteAndMe
      @RePeteAndMe Час назад

      Actually, there'd be little difference if the place didn't exist. Crucibles would be more expensive, so chips would be a tiny bit more expensive. No big deal.
      Of course, the issue is really the creation of bottlenecks because one knows one can get made whole by our "billionaires and corporations are the only people" style government when said bottlenecks fail.....

  • @HickoryJ
    @HickoryJ 2 часа назад +8

    Im from western NC, seeing my home circled in a scishow thumbnail is surreal

    • @Offutticus
      @Offutticus Час назад

      RIGHT!?? I'm here too and still recovering. Was it weird I was excited knowing the video was about Spruce Pine?

  • @DLegato
    @DLegato 2 часа назад +9

    Haven't even watched the video yet, but some times I feel like headlines like these easily become excuses for megacorps to raise prices.

    • @brilobox2
      @brilobox2 2 часа назад +2

      They don’t need excuses.

    • @gigistoner8004
      @gigistoner8004 Час назад +1

      I don't think the headline was anything but straight forward. And watch the video first.

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      @@brilobox2 Yet they will abuse them anyway.

  • @erichcapin3350
    @erichcapin3350 2 часа назад +6

    Quartz & Sibelco are both operational now, the area is still recovering and we're still working on getting our lives back in order....lol,Spruce Pine is the mineral city, but there are a lot of trees....

  • @Janus2407
    @Janus2407 3 часа назад +18

    03:30 0,1% is 1000ppm not 100ppm

  • @dhgallow
    @dhgallow 3 часа назад +84

    We made Sci Show! [Helene Victim]

    • @neutraltoxic
      @neutraltoxic 3 часа назад +18

      My entire region was destroyed by natural disasters and all I got was featured on SciShow.

    • @MicahScottPnD
      @MicahScottPnD 2 часа назад +2

      💙

    • @noahludford3667
      @noahludford3667 2 часа назад +6

      Yeah it's shameful how little notice that got. I feel for you guys.

    • @dannnyc93
      @dannnyc93 2 часа назад +4

      I have lots of family in the area, they were relatively okay but so many small communities around them destroyed it just breaks my heart 💔 I’m so sorry and you guys continue to be in my thoughts daily

    • @erichcapin3350
      @erichcapin3350 2 часа назад +3

      I'm here with ya, we got this! ...Helene survivor.

  • @LENZ5369
    @LENZ5369 2 часа назад +9

    This is only kind of true, synthetic quartz is more pure than the stuff from Spruce Pine; it's just that it is more expensive (and so few use it) -not astronomically more expensive but certainly enough to affect the corporation's profit margins.
    So the prices would go up maybe 15% or so (guesstimation) and there would probably be a supply shortage as synthetic manufacturing scales up but yeah -no apocalypse.

  • @soonny002
    @soonny002 Час назад +3

    I thought Taconic Orogeny was a fetish for tacos.

  • @floramew
    @floramew 3 часа назад +14

    So part of what I'm hearing is not to carelessly throw/give away old electronics, even if they're non functional, lol?

    • @roberteltze4850
      @roberteltze4850 2 часа назад +2

      I wouldn't get too concerned. As she said refined silicon can be made of needed. Also is one impacts silicon, semiconductors can be made from other materials like germanium it gallium and arsenic.

    • @TadeoDOria
      @TadeoDOria Час назад +1

      ​@@roberteltze4850 Silicon is by far the most used and useful metalloid for general purpose semiconductors tho. Other metalloids have different properties and are mostly used for more specific uses, germanium for example is mostly used for fibre optics, while GaAs is used for wireless communications.

  • @CanadianCuttingEdge
    @CanadianCuttingEdge Час назад +4

    Except it's not a single point of failure, it's merely the cheapest place to get this very pure quartz. Just think for a minute, if the quartz crystals that they start with to make the base for the chips starts with "any old junky quartz" (6:15 timestamp) and they end up with a boules that are MORE pure than the stuff from Spruce Pine then it only stands to reason that they can then make crucibles from it - albeit at a much higher cost. So we don't have a limited resource, we have a limited CHEAP resource.
    This video is yet another false scarcity fallacy that will scare people into sharing it for extra views.
    PS: I love SciShow and have been watching for years and years (I probably miss only 5% of your videos), but this one seems like it needed more thought before putting it out. I could be wrong about using the same method to make new crucibles but someone at SciShow should have thought of this and looked into it and researched if my idea is valid or not, it just seems so basic and logical to my little brain. If I am correct then this video is just as much fear mongering, and if I am wrong then this issue needs even more discussion.

    • @JakeEnns
      @JakeEnns Час назад

      That makes a lot of sense. I hope someone at SicShow reads your comment.

    • @johnnydoh6756
      @johnnydoh6756 Час назад

      I wondered the same thing. Why can't they make pure crucibles if they can make quite large pure crystals?

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      @@johnnydoh6756 They can. It would just be more expensive, so they didnt, so far. Also you cant just switch to a different process with the snap of a finger, it takes a lot of time and resources to build new factories from the ground up, or even just to build new factory lines.

  • @msubionerd
    @msubionerd 3 часа назад +10

    That math doesn't work.
    The video says that medium purity is no more than 0.1% impurities, or no more than 100 ppm impurities.
    And that the highest purity is no more than 0.003% impurities, or no more than 30 ppm impurities.
    But 0.1% / 0.003 % = 33.3333
    And 100 / 30 = 3.3333
    There's a factor of 10 error in one of these numbers.

    • @patfre
      @patfre 2 часа назад

      Someone said that 0.1% was a 1000 ppm so that’s probably the problem

    • @matt_hart
      @matt_hart 2 часа назад +3

      ppm is parts per million. 0.1% is 1 in 1000, which is 1000 ppm

  • @jonas1015119
    @jonas1015119 3 часа назад +8

    I, too, saw the viral tweet about this a while ago (also both mines are owned by an extremely secretive belgian company)

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      Like the video clearly mentions, it's the whole business that's extremely secretive, not just that particular company.

  • @robmann400
    @robmann400 57 минут назад +1

    I almost skipped this video because it seemed so obvious from the thumbnail what would be talked about, namely, poor economic planning due to unregulated capitalism with a bit of science sprinkled in, but I thought no, check it out, this channel is pretty consistent with its output, and so I pressed, ‘play.’ Ha! One of the most interesting videos I’ve seen you upload, nicely done.
    I believe they’ll stumble across another pile of super pure quartz somewhere soon and we’ll have two places to rely on for the rare resource instead of just the one. Guessing they haven’t been looking for super pure quartz for very long.
    Thanks for making videos eh.

  • @jennrodriguezdaluz
    @jennrodriguezdaluz 2 часа назад +3

    oh wow! i had always wondered why microchip wafers were round!

  • @infernalstan886
    @infernalstan886 2 часа назад +4

    13.4-25.9 parts per million would be the better way to say it...

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      That and the blunder just a few seconds earlier when they say 100ppm = 0.1%, they really need to pay someone more competent to proofread their stuff.

  • @herrkulor3771
    @herrkulor3771 Час назад +1

    Where does the rain go when there is no rainforest?
    What happens when the energy stays in the atmosphere?

  • @deeexxx8138
    @deeexxx8138 Час назад +1

    AT&T (Bell) used to synthesize its own high-purity quartz crystals. I hope someone has preserved the method as a back up for this kind of situation.

  • @akumaking1
    @akumaking1 3 часа назад +3

    Happy Thanksgiving

  • @robertfindley921
    @robertfindley921 Час назад

    Taconic orogeny? Sounds like Earth's plates getting busy!

  • @elkabong5547
    @elkabong5547 37 минут назад

    Great reporting! Learned something. Much appreciated.

  • @dolphinsoccer4
    @dolphinsoccer4 3 часа назад +9

    Keep Asheville and western NC in your thoughts/prayers. Thanks for this terrific video y’all. I don’t have a particular mutual aid org to promote, but please now and future, donate to local disaster relief and community organization during situation like this. History says do not donate to the Red Cross and other national orgs. They money is more-efficiently used by people based locally; orgs that are are in and of the community

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад +1

      Yeah right bcz it should be up to individuals to help, and not the state, the country, the insurance companies, the multinational making billions in the area... /s
      And then you also badmouth the Red Cross in the process. Amazing.

  • @juliamarple3785
    @juliamarple3785 2 часа назад +1

    That's pretty cool about the quartz

  • @younghan3573
    @younghan3573 30 минут назад

    Expect human greed to raise the price of ultra pure quartz from that region

  • @VAL9THOU
    @VAL9THOU Час назад +1

    The chip shortage during the pandemic was less due to demand spiking and more due to a historic drought in Taiwan, where the world's largest chip fabs are

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      Fact... But it just doesnt play as nicely into the covid crisis narrative, crisis that would be responsible for everything and then some...

  • @Rebar77_real
    @Rebar77_real Час назад

    Grats on 8 million subscribers!

  • @frankshearman2755
    @frankshearman2755 41 секунду назад

    Great show, as always guys. Thanks for what you do, Savannah. Wonderful presentation.
    Frank

  • @nicholashylton6857
    @nicholashylton6857 9 минут назад

    "Taconic Orogeny" Sounds like an x-rated film title.

  • @RobinDSaunders
    @RobinDSaunders 3 часа назад +1

    The Spruce Pine mine has silicon so fine...

    • @Yvolve
      @Yvolve 2 часа назад +1

      That whatever they charge, you can't decline.

  • @TEVT8139
    @TEVT8139 57 минут назад

    Imagine a natural disaster like this, but in Bayan Obo or Phalabora.

  • @IsYitzach
    @IsYitzach 3 часа назад +3

    My dad used to work in the plant that made that sand. We evacuated some 20 years early when dad was transferred to another plant in the same company. He might still have a sample of that sand somewhere. But then again, he doesn't seem to get sentimental over things.

  • @nw9353
    @nw9353 2 часа назад +8

    And who voted against infrastructure? Yep you guessed it.

    • @Theonixco
      @Theonixco Час назад

      Oddly enough the infrastructure in Western NC was up until this past September in good shape. Certainly better than what South Carolina offers, Its just the conditions during the storm would have overtaken most any conventionally built roads. Were talking mudslides on the scale that hardly anyone alive now has seen before.

  • @direconsequence84
    @direconsequence84 3 часа назад

    Thank you.

  • @justalonesoul5825
    @justalonesoul5825 2 часа назад

    3:27 woah there is quite a big mistake there. 0.1% = 1000 ppm. You messed up your decimals.

  • @derekstein6193
    @derekstein6193 56 минут назад

    3:24-3:34
    The math ain't math-in'.

  • @echognomecal6742
    @echognomecal6742 Час назад

    For those, like me, devastated that there's no photo of a silica crucible, it's searchable (& not amazing looking, but still...) but I couldn't find footage of the white bowl-like objects being made which just might be amazing. If anyone knows of footage, it would be appreciated if it's shared here.
    Thanks!

  • @ChristopherBriggs1968
    @ChristopherBriggs1968 Час назад +1

    9:07 bad example. there was no real reason to hoard toilet paper.

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      No, but there was such a hoarding anyway, which is why it was used as a fitting comparison. But I agree, not the best example, or at least poorly stated.

  • @Phoenix-et1vw
    @Phoenix-et1vw 3 часа назад +2

    oh hey it’s my state

  • @finnhd915
    @finnhd915 Час назад

    I haven’t watched this yet but I’m going to bet it’s about spruce pine. I used to live in nc and a good friend of mine had a second house up there

  • @Priestofbenism
    @Priestofbenism Час назад

    I hope that Savannah is doing ok, they seemed less upbeat than normal, but maybe its just the way the presentation came out. Be well Savannah

  • @jasonseymour4235
    @jasonseymour4235 Час назад

    So Spruce Pine has a bunch of high purity quartz, with a maximum of only 25 ppm of impurities. This is used in the process to take lower purity quartz and turn it into ultra high purity quartz, with only 1 ppb of impurities. With a shutdown of 1 of 2 mines in Spruce Pine, we have a limited supply of this crucible material. The simplest answer is screaming out here. You very briefly mentioned it, but we can produce even higher purity silicon than is found in this natural material, which could then be used as a crucible. It's actually very likely that the process necessary is already being done, even though you state it isn't. I'll explain. In order to produce a crucible from this natural high purity quartz, you have to melt it down to form it. In order to melt it down without introducing impurities, you need a silicon crucible with few impurities, basically the same setup used to grow the ultra pure quartz. There are already foundries producing silicon boules for chips, taking this to a foundry that produces crucibles, and you end up with more crucibles for producing more crucibles. Or more wafers. Basically, the crucible producers just need to buy some stock from the boule producers. This could even be the "waste" boule ends or even boules that just didn't make the wafer purity of 1 ppb. The boule producers and the crucible producers just need to work a bit closer together to ensure they can create their own sources from lower purities.
    To be clear, this would increase the price of high and ultra high purity silicon, but not as much as you might think. The vastly lower price of lower purity quartz would offset the cost a fair bit($5000/ton versus $100/ton, or 50x cheaper). Without a full cost breakdown, it is difficult to say how much it would increase, but surely it's cheaper than having an actual shortage. This is a no-brainer as far as I can see, and it assumes that boules and crucibles are produced separately. If the same foundries that produce crucibles also produce boules, this answer becomes even more obvious.

  • @nw9353
    @nw9353 2 часа назад

    This is how the US holds the world by the short and curlies.

  • @irenafarm
    @irenafarm 2 часа назад

    Okay but most of the granitic pegmatites are in the foothills. So why is it only mined in this one town?

  • @LeoN-wc9od
    @LeoN-wc9od 25 минут назад

    We just have to make it.

  • @faenethlorhalien
    @faenethlorhalien 32 минуты назад

    Well, if the threat is identified, all that America needs to do is to prepare for it.

  • @Atheistbatman
    @Atheistbatman Час назад

    Most or all of the worlds home dialysis filtration chemical also comes from that region

  • @LogicalThinking-p2s
    @LogicalThinking-p2s 2 часа назад

    Could a conscious computer like Data be considered a silicon based life form

  • @lakrids-pibe
    @lakrids-pibe 2 часа назад

    Molten MAGMA ☝🙂

  • @KlingonCaptain
    @KlingonCaptain 3 часа назад +1

    Did she seriously say "months?"

    • @Theonixco
      @Theonixco Час назад +1

      Months to years to get things back in order? Yes many of the roads that go into the towns affected are the only one or two that snake into the mountains to service them, many sections will have to be rerouted as the land they were on is no longer there.

  • @blahsomethingclever
    @blahsomethingclever 3 часа назад +3

    Pfff, silicon can be easily purified through distillation. It's just the cleanest input material, but literally any sand can replace it with a minimal increase in cost.

    • @brilobox2
      @brilobox2 2 часа назад

      Except not really.

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      @@brilobox2 "I just wanted to contradict without bringing any factual information".

  • @jamesleatherwood5125
    @jamesleatherwood5125 3 часа назад +6

    Love your shirt Savannah!

  • @0topon
    @0topon 3 часа назад

    Reminds me of XKCD 2347

  • @th3gughy
    @th3gughy 3 часа назад +2

    I can't wait to see prices ramp up again.

  • @Martial-Mat
    @Martial-Mat 3 часа назад

    Hmmm, another reason for nvidia, Intel and Apple to price gouge.
    Perhaps this will be the motivation to make our tech last longer.

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      And reduce the profits and ROI for investors?! I seriously doubt that, as much as I would like to see planned obsolescence dead in its tracks.

    • @Martial-Mat
      @Martial-Mat 25 минут назад

      @@justalonesoul5825 Absolutely but WE can choose not to upgrade so frequently, and game publishers can set their requirements lower.

  • @morsumbra9692
    @morsumbra9692 2 часа назад +2

    Taconic orogeny... wow now let's keep it PG13....

  • @Ascend777
    @Ascend777 3 часа назад +3

    0.1% is 1000 part per million. Is it not?

  • @borrellipatrick
    @borrellipatrick 3 часа назад

    Think lazy game reviews lives in that area 👀

    • @Theonixco
      @Theonixco Час назад

      Asheville area, his house had a tree fall on it.

  • @prefeitobear9209
    @prefeitobear9209 2 часа назад

    More illustrations.

  • @my-tschischlak
    @my-tschischlak 3 часа назад +2

    Well, how much is this crucial quartz ? I think the owner is veeery wealthy .)))

  • @MirorR3fl3ction
    @MirorR3fl3ction 3 часа назад +1

    Use existing high purity silicon production to make high purity silicon sand, then use that to make new high purity crucibles. No natural high purity quartz needed

    • @mezu-e
      @mezu-e 3 часа назад +3

      It's always a cost problem. Almost anything that can be imagined can be done, but convincing people to pay for it is another issue.

    • @BackYardScience2000
      @BackYardScience2000 3 часа назад +3

      It's not needed. It just makes it far easier and more cost efficient to start with a purer product. That's with anything that needs to be absolutely pure in the end product.

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад +1

      @@BackYardScience2000 Yes it's needed, ofc, as this situation clearly demonstrates. Or then the slightest problem becomes a worldwide problem. Or you're at the mercy of the country providing that product, alternatively, and they can pressure you in any way they want. Independance always has a cost.

  • @ismailsultan110
    @ismailsultan110 3 часа назад +1

    first comment says that this video is very insightful and quite informative in the emerging world of technology relating to natural phenomena

  • @chanoname4940
    @chanoname4940 2 часа назад

    So this is why Intel 13th and 14th gen started to blow up

  • @Nmethyltransferase
    @Nmethyltransferase Час назад

    One Weird Quirk of Geology Makes Tech Possible
    Technology companies hate it!

  • @TaylerKnox
    @TaylerKnox 3 часа назад +6

    Early comments are almost always about being first comments. Wasted opportunity.

  • @cheryld.3616
    @cheryld.3616 3 часа назад +2

    How about Sci Show doing a fund raiser for the victims of Helene from Spruce Pine and surrounding area in WNC? ...'Crickets'

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад +2

      Not their job, not their mission, not their expertise. Why would you even bring up such a ridiculous thing?

  • @StoneSailsSculpture
    @StoneSailsSculpture 3 часа назад

    Here for the chaos

  • @marioalfonso3214
    @marioalfonso3214 56 минут назад

    Example how to exaggerating the production like the # 1 in the world that is just for insurance purposes to claim tha max of losted on production
    The reality is totally difrent lol
    Those that have more are those that build more those that sale more is those that have the control so basically in USA is not a big fan on production can you see is tha most mass buyer but not the productively lol so
    Half fact on this video as fact

  • @Ozaryk
    @Ozaryk Час назад

    30 seconds in and... "Pretty much every silicon computer chip that exists in the world, exists thanks to one mineral deposit in a tiny town in the NC mountains".... I don't believe you.

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад +1

      well just watch the rest before making such useless comments.

    • @Ozaryk
      @Ozaryk 42 минуты назад

      @@justalonesoul5825 I did and I still don't cause that statement implies that location is the only location in the world that supplies silicon for computer chips, which is false. It takes one Google search to find this information out, but I guess you just listened to that statement that the video never went back onto. The video was talking about quartz, which isn't the only source of silica sand. As for useless statements, yours is incredibly so.

    • @Ozaryk
      @Ozaryk 38 минут назад

      Also, if you're going to suggest that my comment is useless... You responded, therefore it wasn't useless. If you want to target a "useless" statement, or rather, in this case, an extremely counterproductive statement, then go after why they made her say that statement in the first place.

  • @barrydysert2974
    @barrydysert2974 Час назад

    View #14000

  • @kidmohair8151
    @kidmohair8151 Час назад

    o goody.
    another reason that tech companies can use to jack up prices.
    yay capitalism

  • @jamesleatherwood5125
    @jamesleatherwood5125 3 часа назад +1

    Just one more of those "we are only here a nd capable because of this" things. lol How many of those do you need to have before the chances of EVERYTHING happening that has let us live grow evolve and technolocize before the number becomes so vanishingly small over the lifetime of the universe for us to be like "yeah.. random chance pro;;y didnt cause this to happen." lol

  • @TiredMomma
    @TiredMomma 3 часа назад +1

    9:30 By 2020, people can't live without a screen in their face.
    To those of us who grew up in the 90's and prior, at least we still know how to go on, jk. 😅 We're just as much glued to our phones.
    Kids additions to video games seems to have become accepted, as in folks now think it's ok for kids to just want to focus on gaming and drop out of school. That's what 2020 did when parents caved into buying new pc's for their kids. Our small pc tower we got in 2019, and an old monitor from the early 2000's, will work just fine, as long as it is used for online education, not gaming. Kids/teens do not "need" new tech for gaming.
    Parents can teach them to play board games, and see if they can create their own. It creates bonding time, where as kids that are addictes to video games, no longer care about spending time with their family, and will develope disrespectful behavior towards their parents.

    • @Avendesora
      @Avendesora 3 часа назад +1

      Branch out into card games! There are all sorts of fun variations of solitaire.

    • @TiredMomma
      @TiredMomma 3 часа назад

      ​@@Avendesora I have an old card game book. Only 2 can be played by 1 person alone.
      I wish there could be like a single player mystery game, or an escape room. Something to help pass time. I sit or lay down quite often when my hip joint issues flare up.

    • @Avendesora
      @Avendesora 3 часа назад

      @ You have the entire internet. Searching for "single player games" will get you a lot of awesome results full of things to try or buy :)

    • @justalonesoul5825
      @justalonesoul5825 Час назад

      @@TiredMomma Ever heard of reading books? 😉
      There are also countless games with very little material, a 52 card game, yathzee with 5 dices, etc, etc, etc. You just need a bit of research and minimum effort. GL, bcz I believe you are very right, those computer games (that I've played ad libitum at times) tend to make people withdraw into themselves A LOT.

  • @badmonkey244
    @badmonkey244 3 часа назад +3

    First 😅

  • @pef1960
    @pef1960 3 часа назад +2

    I love cats, but that's a terrible sweater...

    • @Pyritian
      @Pyritian 3 часа назад

      Hater

    • @TalEdds
      @TalEdds 2 часа назад +2

      I find it cute

    • @Steamrick
      @Steamrick 2 часа назад

      if it's warm it's a great sweater

    • @Priestofbenism
      @Priestofbenism Час назад

      You have bad taste in sweaters @perf1960

  • @danwellington3571
    @danwellington3571 3 часа назад

    PLEASE

  • @Aarcheopteryx
    @Aarcheopteryx 3 часа назад +1

    Yoo 1 minute

  • @OmniscientOrangutan
    @OmniscientOrangutan 3 часа назад +1

    First? Woahhh

  • @mariesong729
    @mariesong729 3 часа назад

    Wow early how?!?