Roy Jones & Max Kellerman "Forget the catchweight crap, you got the title at 160, lets fight!"
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- Roy Jones & Max Kellerman "Forget the catchweight crap, you got the title at 160, lets fight!"
Roy Jones Jr and Max Kellerman talk about the Miguel Cotto vs. Canelo Alvarez fight as they discuss the Cotto vs Canelo fight.
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roy Jones jnr. what a legend. a true master at his craft. and a warrior.
zee raa One of the best commentators around too.
Because Roy could move at the speed of light! - Max Kellerman
Best quote I've heard in a long time.
Max Kellerman never boxed but this guy knows boxing #respect
Roy is damn near 50yrs old and still fighting, and you're asking him if Cotto should retire at 35yrs old? Lol
hahaha
Ralph Thompson
Yup Roy Jones is still fighting....BUMS....like he always did.
Roy keeping it real: THE REAL CHAMP
men am so glad that roy said that am tired of the catch weight crap !!!
Amen Roy, Amen!
agree with Roy!!! old school boxing!!!
Max Kellerman's opinion on the scoring was completely accurate
Roy Jones is keeping it 100
Here's the thing, Max.. if there was that many rounds that could've gone to either guy, I think it would be a better idea to call it a draw :)
+georgyorgy2 it all about money.. the young guy has to win to continue the revenue draw for boxing.. they will generate for money on Canelo than Cotto.. there are more Mexican fan then Ricans. Its unfair the Cotto
Uh, he said there were three rounds that could've gone to either guy.
+Chidi ELBEY Completely agree. Good analogy. I only wish they gave it to Canelo without it being so obvious that the scorecards were predetermined. Cotto definitely won some rounds and whether it was a draw or advantage Canelo depending on how some people saw it, makes more sense than the scorecards the way they played out.
+georgyorgy2 boxing - 12rounds
Roy's right fight at 160 ..why should triplet g go down in weight ???. ITS A 160 pound belt there fighting for lol n cotto was just a smaller guy if you don't agree u dont box n no nothing about boxing fact
+Meah Morales I think they are going to make it at 157 158.... I think canelo drains too much to give 155 if he lets the bullshit blowover... he could easily traing to make 160.. and feel stronger... I don't know why he's pushing him self a lot to still fight at 155... when he could conmfortably make 160... and not feel weak or drained.. because even if canelo denies it it is obvious that he struggles to make 155... he is huge now... he's body has grown a lot... and he is a middle weight he is strong as fuck even at weigh inn against cotto he looked big... he should fight at 160 already.. the problem is the fights and the names he could fight.. there are more chances of doing business at 154.. you name it... bradley can come up... and many other welter fighters... that are huge for that divition.. even broner is huge for welter.. canelo should fight the best.. and period... if he wants to be a good future boxing legend or at least hall of fame he should fight the best... he is 25... imagine him at 30.. he is going to be fighting at 168 at least...
+Meah Morales you know nothing about everything. You fuck. You don't even know proper grammar.
bugsta2012 hahahahahahahaha ?????????????????
Boxing was never gone completely but it's coming back, baby!
Roy is 100% on the money
I agree with RJJ if you're the champ at that weight fight at that weight
The middleweight champion of the world does not want to fight his number 1 contender at middleweight? Come on, now. Congrats to Canelo on his huge win last night, though. But let's make this GGG/Canelo fight happen, May 7th!
Fight hub is getting a lot of footage now!
Cotto vs Bradley. Canelo needs a tune up at 160 vs. David Lemieux, for many reason 1. how well his power translates to 160, 2. how well does cannel take a punch from a middleweight. 3 cannel needs more experience cause he is still learning 25 yrs. old he is gradually getting better. GGG is seasoned already over 300 amateur fights, Canelo has no amateur background. He is a prospect who is great enough to beat champs, but he is still learning. Best to wait for GGG, Canelo not ready just yet.
+fuddyduddie1 it's not the weight never is its about experience. Canelo is still learning while GGG has mastered his craft. Canelo needs more time to gain experience
Canelo before his training camp was 168lbs now i doubt a fighter can gain 7 pounds while cutting weight. Dont go off of freddy roaches statements if you dont know anything. Look at the facts my friend
But what does maidana have to do with Canelo being 168 before training camp? All im saying is i dont think its possible to to gain 7lbs while cutting weight
Roy is right on this one.
Catch weights shouldn't even be a thing.
If you're comfortable coming in at say 157 as a middleweight, it doesn't mean your opponent should have to.
As long as neither fighter is over 160 (or whatever weight) then it's all fair.
yall can thank the DIVA Cotto for making this 155 lb catchweight. Roy and Max r right, Alvarez won 9 rounds to 3.
I agree with Max, everything is negotiable specially if you're the A side. Canelo deserves that respect with his ppv #s. Real talk...
I totally agree to Roy Jones & Max Kellerman "Forget the catchweight crap, you got the title at 160, lets fight...fans are not easy influenced by "Drama" ...only business business business...of course boxing needs money side but "I am sad to see THE MIDDLEWEIGHT MANDATORY CHAMPION OF WBC is in the situation epic of business...but respect the Champ..Canelo n GGG has many Million fans all over the world...we love them n we like them to fight too to watch them in the fight...but all depends on ?????
i agree with max. cotto looked good just too small. his punches did nothing to canelo.
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Catchweights ruin the integrity of the sport. There is no reason for them, unless you are a prospect.
Roy Jones speaks the truth
catchweights give fighters in weight classes that have minimal superstars to be able to fight a fighter that is a superstar and meet halfway. there is no other superstar in GGG weight class but there is one at a lower weight class, Canelo. so lets meet halfway and get it on.
you can say both Golden Boy and RocNation knew the winner (of cotto v canelo) has a highly expected date with GGG. the catch-weight was a no brainer to predetermine the fight (weight) vs GGG.
Cotto vs Thurman. Cotto vs Porter. Cotto vs Diego Chavez. Cotto vs Kell Brook. Cotto vs Berto. Cotto vs Erislandy Lara. A couple of tussles Miguel can be in. 35 Is still a strong age. If he really wants to retire he should take 3 more fights, with wins and retire. He gave the sport enough, a lot of wars. Cotto is a legend. I still think he did have a resurgence with Freddie Roach. And as for Canelo. Go ahead and move up man, GGG is a dangerous fight but yall already sparred and he says all he saw that was significant was GGG's power. So Canelo could make it happen and win with a Decision.
Come on this guys are business favorite makers. I turn the sound of the HBO image. They always favor one guy
Yeah i agree with Roy, Cotto didn't coming out throwing the hard shots to get Canelos respect. I didn't see Cotto land one big left hook :/
clear true
cree lo que digo triple g es un revolver calibre 32 a corta distancia averigua cual es el dano del revolver y dine
cotto vs keith Thurman
+Eddyer Salazar Goooooood rumble.
+19xx Forever that will be war in is good for boxing
Yep! Good thinking there!
Roy is right
Boxing and MMA judges need to be informed that 10-10 rounds do exist
all I know is thar ggg better take his ass down to 55-57. he really needs the fights.
+Cuervo ARG nigga...if ggg wants to really take it to the next level he needs to give in on the demands. or take the belt on the table and keep fighting at 160. his career will gets stuck at 60. for the beginning of his career it work but now is phase 2 brah.
ScarFace W/Diamond Teeths "or take the belt on the table and keep fighting at 160" Sounds fine. He likes all MW Belts, then he can move up, I don't know, but show he is one of the best MW of all time, period. #AllDaBelts
+Cuervo ARG okay thats fine brah. im not saying for him not to do that. all im saying is if he does that his career will gets stuck.
ScarFace W/Diamond Teeths Stuck ? Lee, Quillin, Jacobs, there are a lot more fighters (the question is, will them be chickens like Diva Pink and, let's see this 15 days, canelo ?)
GGG has a lot of money, and the respect of the people, if that is stuck, i'd like to be stuck as well haha, and lil wayne is crap like diva.
+Cuervo ARG quillin Jacobs? u know he will never fight those guys, they are haymon and they are scare of ggg, plus ggg will ko those bums in less than 6 rounds. no one gives a shit about lee or the fucking titles ggg has. fans want those titles in big fights. canelo is the only big fight period.
When Roy says that a stronger one punch beats the "tap tap tap" punches that is not the case at all. For fighters like mayweather and pernell whitaker, etc... those "tap tap tap" punches are way more effective scoring wise. Combos are way harder and take more skill to land that one punch. Although it can be a very effective punch it all depends on how the fighter comes back. You can get whacked across the face and then continue to land great combos till the end of the round. What Max said makes way more sense about the rounds that are up in the air and could go to anyone. For example thats how I scored mayweather's first fight against maidana. The furthest I went in that fight was 114-114. It could have been a draw if all the judges agreed to give two or three round to maidana instead of mayweather but there is no way maidana won that fight. The furthest he could have gotten is a draw (which is still amazing against a slick fighter like mayweather. Closest anyones been since Castillo). Cotto could have easily gotten 4 more rounds than 119-109. That's just disgraceful. The judges went on to give those "up in the air" rounds to the more favored boxer who has more to lose. Either way cotto still lost. I just would have liked to see more sane scorecards but hey this is boxing.
This is the case with a fighter like mayweather who lands weak punches but gets almost nothing landed on him. But when you compare 200 power punches to 200 jabs the power punches are going to mean a lot more.
Good Fight But not unanimously
Both are champs, so i understand the catch weight, which in my eyes should be 157 straight down the line between 154&160. But let Ggg choose the gloves, and Canelo choose ref. Max and Roy always know their shit.
No, Alvarez is the 154-160 champion, ggg is mid 160s. I've also seen Alvarez ask for catch weight then rehydrate and get embarrassed. Idiots rehydrate more than 3-5 pounds like Fernando Vargas, that's why he got whooped. No one seems to understand that rehydration to extreme weights is bad. You train to a certain weight, that's how your body will adapt, then fight night they become sluggish going up 14 pounds and wonder why. The catch weight should be made, not like both can't rehydrate if they choose. Ggg is already the bigger fighter in weight class being that Alvarez is a super welterweight/junior middle weight and ggg is a regular middle weight. Has nothing to do with Manning up, hell Alvarez has changed weight classes, when will ggg???
Well this conversation it's over if you don't understand that the weights break off weight classes. The only reason guys have moved up 4,5, or 6 weight classes is because they are separated by 7 pounds. Alvarez is considered a junior middleweight, ggg is considered a middle weight, Andre Ward is a super middleweight. 3 different weight classes of the middleweight division, there's a junior champion, regular, and super. That's why the catch weight should be 157. Alvarez picked the catch weight against Mayweather even though Mayweather was moving up from 147
This should sum it up for you. When's the last time Alvarez fought at 160 pounds. Not what he went into the ring as, but that he weighed in as. Then when was the last time he fought between 148 and 160.
Alvarez can fight in the middleweight division, but just look at the opponents he's fought, all welterweights, just like he is.
There's no technicality about it, he's only fought welterweights, which super welterweight goes to 154. Mayweather, Trout, Lara, even Cotto, all welterweights, that's clear as day. He's never fought at 160, and he's never fought a middleweight, otherwise he wouldn't ask ggg to come down. He's a welterweight, just a big one, like de la hoya
The only reason those guys go up to those catch weights is to fight him bottom line, not to go middleweight. He's been a champion before, but not middleweight champion until he fought Cotto, who can't get above 153. The catch weight is never for his opponents, it's for him. He fought all these guys in the welterweight division at a catch weight so he didn't have to go under, but they were still welterweight fights. He's big enough to be a middleweight, but he's only fought one middleweight fight, just like Roy Jones fought 1 heavyweight fight in his prime, but he wasn't a heavyweight. Hell he was only like 195. He'll be a middleweight when he fights middleweights. Hell, isn't he gonna fight Amir Khan??? Another welterweight
Roy Jones was doing a lot of Canelo slobbing. I think someone told him he would get replaced if he didn't play ball. After last night he's definitely HBO employee of the month.
+Xavier Miranda u troll
Roy has been one of the only commentators they had to tell the real truth. I don't think he slobbed him
The Film Fix Roy was commentating on the fight like he was afraid to lose his job.
Oohing and ahhing on missed or blocked punches and talking up a certain fighter to the point where even your co workers gotta check you for being so over the top has nothing to do helping the viewers understand what's going on. It's called brown nosing and trying to manipulate the casual fan's perception of the fight in order to fit his employers agenda in pushing Canelo. It's not helping anyone but HBO.
Because the biggest money fight on HBO right now is GGG vs Canelo it's arguably the biggest fight in boxing so of course he's going to talk that shit. Both fighters are HBO guys.
the scorecards were a disgrace
160lbs or NO fight...Canelo vs GGG are the same size on fight night. 50/50 fight. Fight him for the Middleweight title at the the normal limit...160 lbs or give up the title....I had the Cotto/Canelo fight a close fight...Canelo by two points...fuck the cards...
where paulie at??
canelo gonna weigh 175 he`d be better if the weigh in is 160 so its obvious this about him wanting his opponent to be in worse shape thats the point. Either its that or he`s using the weight to duck the man
I think the only reason a catchweight is acceptable is when two guys from different division want to fight or when a fighter is coming off of a long lay off whether is because of an injury or some political boxing bullshit, but when you want to defend your title at a fucking catchweight it's atrocious. YOUR TITLE IS AT 160 NOT 155 CANLEO, GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER!!!
i say ggg vs chaves jr then vs canelo i still dont understand y ggg wants to negotiate dude u aint a prize fighter yet any champ will fight any champ for any money just when khan fought garcia khan
I don't agree with Roy statement about Canelo not being crisp. I think Canelo just has too kuch respect for Cotto. Cotto is smaller. Canelo knew this was an easy win
160 give me the drama show now!!!!
Great exchange, but I'm more on Roy's side of this argument than Max's. Just let the weight class's boundaries be part of the challenge for any comer! Quit all this pussy-footing around. Ok, some guys are bigger and some guys are smaller. We know that. However, if a naturally smaller man is outstanding enough, he can overcome that natural disadvantage and be victorious anyway. I mean, how many times have we seen that happen throughout the history of boxing?! Down with dickering!
Come on Max ... Go back to when you thought Roy Jones was better than Calzaghe... on that night that you and Manny Steward realised that Joe Calzaghe was the greatest of ALL TIME..
titles ,@ 160 fight at 160 or give.up the belt
Roy would you say the same about Mayweather? He can make millions at whatever wieght he wants
ok
CANELO SHOULD OFFER GGG A FIGHT FOR THE 154# BELT.....GGG LAST YEARS WANTED IT TO FIGHT FLOYD AND CANELO AT 154 WHY NOT NOW? CANELO IS A BIG GUY SO TRIPLE G IF CANELO CAN MAKE 155# WHY CAN'T GGG MAKE 155#????
judge: i could have given that to either guy but ima give it to canelo cuz cotto for stripped
troll
canelos im too small is embarassing he`s 172 minimum at fight night, the guy was 2 months training for cotto and still weighing 167.8
These guys are the same weight, one just happens to be younger and able to cut more water weight easier. This catchweight crap is exactly that, crap. If they were champions at different weight classes I could understand, but they aren't. A catchweight robs us fans of a good fight with fighters as healthy as possible. Chickanelo if you ask me.
Roy Jones is on HBO's crack
Max looking like i wish he let me talk already it is my interview ROY.
that was a bull shitt scores card 117 and 118 for canelo hell fuck no
i had cotto winning by a large margin...
Of course there was catch weights back then. The issue is canelo is a bigger fighter than cotto. Canelo walks around 160 plus so why does he want a catchweight. Canelo looks like a pussy looking for a catchweight because cotto was so damn small. I have stood next to cotto and he is a shrimp. So canelo asking for a catchweight against ggg is suspect.
canelo knows ggg will make him a good boy by 6th round yellow canelo great fighter but he will get that ass wooped by Triple G and he knows it or he would already took the damn fight De La Hoya don't want his cash cow to get knocked the f*** out just wait to Triple G's about 40 and then you might be able to beat him
that's right roy jones Canelo was the better fighter. Cotto and overrated Roach new improvement was nothing but good matchmaking . Canelo is not great but I good biger fighter.
Floyd did it, Pacquiao did it.
Why can't Canelo do it? He can make the calls, he's the A side against Golovkin.
Cotto should retire man
+MyYKz why?
+MyYKz Nah he needs to move down weight. He was never a true middleweight.
Sure. Fatten canelo up and give golovkin a better chance at winning.
+Erehe Mias Fatten Canelo up. wrong... Canelo walks around 175, his normal weight.
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canelo is fraud. He lost to lara, the cotto fight was closer than the decision. juan marquez and julio Cesar chavez who are both mexican and were at ring side thought that cotto won that fight. if not a draw. look it up on golpe a golpe you tube. bring your own translator.
this why boxing suck
Roy Jones you are full of crap that's why you got knocked out by Glen Johnson Jr the road warriors and by Antonio the Magic Man Tarver if anyone needs to retired is you
Roy jones sold out
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