I'm two years too late, but it's an extract from the audiobook of his excellent autobiography "The Whispering Years", well worth the purchase if you can find a cheap copy!
Sid was young doped up and stupid at times, punk got inside his head and turned him, Sid was a nice guy before all that shit happened. Punk was a a great style and unique, but the violence was just shit, it's pretty sad.
Sid Vicious later got beat up by John Martyn at another venue, so the story goes, after calling him a 'has been' and 'ageing hippy' (or akin)- he got invited and then took outside!
Bob just stick to the facts, there were no "mohicans" around the Pistols, mohicans were part of the cliched uniform and posing for the tourists brigade of the 1980s.
Yeah, from the versions I've heard Wobble is the guy that picks on Bob first and in the melee Sid injures Bob's friend with a glass. It's not often mentioned (spoils the myth I suppose) that the police were initially called to the Pistol's boat party because Wobble had attacked a French cameraman! Anyway, any version of the Speakeasy story I've ever heard is perfectly accurate on one score - both Wobble and Vicious were nothing but a pair of cowardly two-bit thugs.
Jah Wobble grew up though, I don't think he'll do that now if he had the chance. And I have some dvd's from the Whistletest, and there's 'punk related' bands on there too, (but it's now presented by a woman) N.Y. Dolls, Iggy Pop, P.I.L.(with Wobble) Adverts, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Damned, and probably a few others. I love the Old Grey Whistletest because they had live music, land Bob Harris made this great Hammersmith Odeon show with Queen '(74) happen. That show is fe-no-me-nal, I just watched it on dvd, it's really a fantastic Queen show! It was unbelievable that they never played for a crowd as big as that one in Hammersmith Odeon before, it was a first, and thank God not the last in front of a big crowd! Bob Harris, a big thank you for all the great music!!!
This really all started when he insulted the New York Dolls. The line had been drawn in the sand and to the Punk Generation, it was clear which side he was on.
All hail the punk generation, all who insult them must be slain! What a narcissistic trope. Ironically, counter to the punk ideal (if such a thing exists) it is conceivable some people still exist who are good. Come on, be honest. Bob called out some stuff he thought was twaddle (as was his right) . It is anyone else's right to disagree but the opprobrium that he had suffered ever since is absolutely outrageous and anyone who says otherwise has soul.
@@aweescotsdog8358 Kids of that generation looked at Bob Harris and saw in him their smug older brother in the sixth form or off at uni who sneered at them for liking pop and Glam Rock while he (it usually was a he) was off stroking his bearded chin listening to two-hour-long single song concept albums and telling himself how profound he was.
@@aweescotsdog8358 Think back to the 40s/50s and the way studenty Modern Jazz snobs (in duffel coats with CND badges) switched from hating the music hall songs of their parents to hating the rock n roll of their younger siblings, dismissing the WHOLE of Rock n Roll as evil commercial plastic trash. The hippy/Prog Rock generation of music fans that Bob Harris represented took the same attitude to the Glam/Punk/New Romantic generation of kids and the music they first listened to and then played. (This was one reason why the Glam/Punk generation of kids rehabilitated Marc Bolan, seen by hippies/proggers as at least a cheesy glittery pop pretty boy and at worst as a hated traitor to the hippy underground, and turned him into an icon and Godfather like hippies had done with the Beatles. They knew how much giving Bolan that kind of acclaim would offend snooty older siblings into Gong and post-Barrett Pink Floyd, whom s&m and swastikas would fail to offend).
@@bluerfoot He was a complex person. That's why he is still remembered today with no talent, he had charisma. How would anyone turn out with a selfish heroin addict as a mother?
@@danabrahams7892 The bouncer at the 100 Club, when speaking of the Nick Kent incident, said something along the lines of "I might have gone back at him (Sid), but Wobble was standing right there....and you didn't mess with Wobble." He does seem to have that reputation.
@67psych3: Agree 100%. I went to see the Sex Pistols when they reformed, because Glen Matlock's a decent person. I would never have paid to see Sid Vicious. What a coward.
Notice how he doesn't have the balls to say he thought punk was shit, he quotes other people as saying it was crap. Maybe he's just being polite. I mean, I like the guy but it's sly to conceal your real feelings, or hide behind other people.
You left out; "maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn".
Michael Watts sounds opportunist and jumping on the bandwagon. Because Bob Harris was polite doesn’t invalidate what he does. Sure punk brought vigor to the rock scene but it didn’t last.
So, there's a scuffle, albeit a nasty one, lasting a minute or so...and apparently in that time 'punks from all other clubs around were converging because word was out'. Yeah, Bob....sure
Serves him right for his snotty attitude to Roxy Music and the NY Dolls back in '72/'73. Clearly the BBC saw Sid's actions as viewer feedback which was why they dumped Harris.
how the fuck criticizing some shit band (and Roxy Music) is a good enough reason for slashing a person's face with a fucking bottle?? They could have killed that guy (the Scottish guy)!
So what if he thinks the New York Dolls and punk was shit? He's entitled to that opinion and that stuff was shit next to Sabbath, Purple, Priest and Budgie.
+Wolfgang Von Poserkila notice that he says that others thought punk was provincial whining, he doesn't directly criticise it himself. He didn't like punk cos it wasn't aimed at the likes of him , he was too old and clueless to understand it!
GriefTourist There's also a million shitty punk bands who most people have never heard of whilst Iron Maiden, Joe Satriani and Van Halen sell a shit ton of records. Music isn't just about feeling, it's also about range and creativity. Punk was crucial energy to music as a whole, however it was one trick pony and lacked virtuosity and in turn pride. Whispering Bob was unenamoured for that reason very possibly.
And all those has-been Metal bands you mentioned are also lacking. They played watered down versions of rock that were rhythm-less, blue-less and clueless. There only justification for that monotonous music was the delusion that it was supposedly the greatest music of time. It was all just hype. Punk and especially New Wave had more creativity and virtuosity although it too lacked a good beat which is why Rap rules now.
There's been many different versions of that Speakeasy story over the years, I was always inclined to believe Bob's version - till I heard him talk about a bunch of guys with mohicans bearing down on him @ 2.22 The problem is that NOBODY had a mohican haircut in 1977, that look came a few years later courtesy of losers like The Exploited.. Sorry Bob!
Raveonette lamest argument ever. But please apply for the bar. You would make an excellent defence counsel. Just leave your of reason and compassion at the door. By the way the story is well known (and whether told from Bobs side or the other it is clear that he wasn't the agrresor) why would he be ? He was a frickin hippy at the time. You couldn't get more mellow than Bob!
@@aweescotsdog8358 Never said it didn't happen, I merely hinted strongly that Bob's not remembering things very accurately. A mohawk would NEVER be seen on that pre-80s scene. Oh, and your English teacher has much to answer for. "Just leave of your reason?" "Agrresor?" Derp.
In my opinion, i'd say Bob Harris got what he deserved for calling the New York Dolls "mock-rock" and Sid Vicious and many of the other punks were big fans of them, so Sid, like a REAL TRUE punk he was, threatened him. I can relate to what kind of person Sid was after watching the documentary "Sid: By Those Who Really Knew Him", and no one's gonna tell me not to idolize him or whatever, cuz I couldn't give a fuck what any one else thinks. He was the last punk with a bit of anarchy left in him.
The "mock rock" comment is pure spin - it wasn't meant as a criticism at all, Harris was way way too professional to comment subjectively, as well as polite.
I don't want to defend the punks for physically attacking him, but he's not quite the innocent victim he makes out. This probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't verbally disparaged the New York Dolls on OGWT, using his position of power at the BBC to act as a bully. I feel sorry for his mate, but not so much for Bob, who reaped a whirlwind of his own making.
critics do their thing - hundreds if not thousands of wonderful albums and bands were trashed by critics who just didn't get it, and it's part of the game (of music journalism), unfortunately... yeah, great reason for violence. Punk-oriented critics also came into a position of power at some point to trash everyone else's music - that's just the way it is
"americans didnt understand it" maybe because americans created the sound and the message but were told it was just good old rock and roll and sid denied that any of this ever happened
He said "half a dozen mohican cut drunks", the first wave of punks didn't sport mohicans, the mohican crowd didn't come along until at least 1980. I know Vicious threatened him once but not sure I can fully believe his melodramatic version of this story when embellishing it with punk stereotypes who had yet to exist.
Punks weren’t meant to be trouble makers at the time either. They abhorred confrontation with each other so I don’t believe that this shit went down the way he says, I reckon it’s more likely to have been skinheads.
Freddie Mercury was a perfect ass Freddie Mercury had been somebody that's it admired greatly and he went to see him and Mercury was a perfect ass I don't know how we ever sucked a dick with those teeth of his
@@desertrose1226 Long story short, Sid walked in on Freddie recording a piano track in the studio they shared and asked Freddie if he had succeeded in "bringing ballet to the masses", which was a reference to a quote Freddie gave to a newspaper around that time. Freddie responded with, "We're doing our best, Mr. Ferocious," or something to that effect, and Sid smiled and left. After both of them died, members of Queen's entourage began exaggerating the story incrementally to the point where the most recent version of the story has Freddie grabbing Sid by the collar of his jacket and throwing him up against a wall, which is total bullshit.
It was early 1977 and I find it hard to believe that there were a gang of mohawk punks there that night. as for Sid a good fart wouldve knocked him over, he was all bark and no bite, he had a name to live up to. I often wonder if he had been named Sid Benevolent would he have lived up to that name also ???????
"New wave of negative thinking". Well endless prog rock with 10 minute self-indulgent keyboard, drum or guitar solos WOULD cause negative thinking. You can only hear someone playing scales as fast as they can for so long before something has to give, and thank God it did give in 1976/1977. Truth is Harris was out of touch and a dinosaur musically even back in 1976 and OGWT was something only drunks wondering in from the pub bothered to watch in the hope that maybe there'd be something vaguely listenable on. Harris and the producers responsible should have been let go from OGWT long before Annie Nightingale replaced him and they started featuring "new wave" (can't use the word "punk" can we?!) bands. History has shown who got the predictions about the music and what was actually important right.
prog rock (the good bands) is not about endless SOLOs, these songs are more like a DIY attempt at creating a symphony or something, with rock instruments, and often crazy and beautiful sonic sensibility. Lots of more adventurous prog was actually, quite unexcusably, trashed in the press because of the critics seeking 'middle ground' between that and the mass appeal. I get that the change had to come and a lot has become pretty self-indulgent and/or incomprehensible for many ppl, but musically, only the post-punk bands and perhaps some of the Clash or Buzzcocks' songs hold any ground - other than that - BORING, endless simplistic 2minute songs replicating Johnny B Goode and spouting slogans. I get it that it was probably cool to be there (as in: co-creating culture, having a voice, DIY all that stuff, and the exciting possibility of getting your face slashed with a bottle at a gig - cool!) - but as music - again - fucking b o r i n g (pistols and the rest of it). and I'm saying that as someone who had not experienced any of that during the time it happened: born in the late 80s - so I'm just judging from the legacy.
Of course I outright condemn what happened to him, however... I think if _anyone_ from my generation happened to be in the vicinity of his fake transatlantic tones - particularly his pronunciation of the word record as 'recud' - the struggle not to take an instinctive punch would be tough.
o another working class hero. what wrong with the UK? never minds the black s the foreigners the this the that the class war is the most alienating. all from the saem bloody country spitting fire. and dont kill the cat because that sinks lower than the c bloody chip on the heros shoulder.
class war. the start of sheer mediocrity. the bottom of the barrell no excuse. even the 'amusing video' of side viscious singing i did it my way..is an overt attack on the so called posh. shooting them in the audiencd funny? no deadly serious and say many people admire anything that says " up yours" and cheeks them insults them...thats not right..weakness.
So what did George Nicolson, the sound engineer, ever do to you? 18 head stitches and a slashed wrist, so it's "God bless Sid Vicious"? You are an arse hole.
The pistols were amazing group and still is Good hearted people Sid vicious was very in a dark heroin shit but he is a good person otherwise....I wish he had a grave ...
sounds like he's reading
He’s reading from his autobiography.
I'm two years too late, but it's an extract from the audiobook of his excellent autobiography "The Whispering Years", well worth the purchase if you can find a cheap copy!
I don't understand why this didn't end up in court.
Sid was young doped up and stupid at times, punk got inside his head and turned him, Sid was a nice guy before all that shit happened. Punk was a a great style and unique, but the violence was just shit, it's pretty sad.
Sid Vicious later got beat up by John Martyn at another venue, so the story goes, after calling him a 'has been' and 'ageing hippy' (or akin)- he got invited and then took outside!
Vicious blinded a girl, too.
yay for John
It happened in London in the speakeasy club which was the club that Marc Bolan spent his last night . September 77..
Bob just stick to the facts, there were no "mohicans" around the Pistols, mohicans were part of the cliched uniform and posing for the tourists brigade of the 1980s.
I wonder if he's confused? I doubt Harris would know a mohican if he saw one.
I was just going to post the same comment!
Whispering Bob Harris? More like bullshitting Bob Harris. Mohicans were indeed pretty much standard uniform of the second generation of 'Punks'.
Mohican s late 79 punks round 77 78 cropped haircut dyed various colors
That hit a bum note for me. The only Mohawk hairstyle at that time was DeNiro's in Taxi Driver.
2 things
No 1, shame it happened 😔
No 2, the pistols were amazing.
Yeah, from the versions I've heard Wobble is the guy that picks on Bob first and in the melee Sid injures Bob's friend with a glass. It's not often mentioned (spoils the myth I suppose) that the police were initially called to the Pistol's boat party because Wobble had attacked a French cameraman! Anyway, any version of the Speakeasy story I've ever heard is perfectly accurate on one score - both Wobble and Vicious were nothing but a pair of cowardly two-bit thugs.
Jah Wobble grew up though, I don't think he'll do that now if he had the chance. And I have some dvd's from the Whistletest, and there's 'punk related' bands on there too, (but it's now presented by a woman) N.Y. Dolls, Iggy Pop, P.I.L.(with Wobble) Adverts, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Damned, and probably a few others. I love the Old Grey Whistletest because they had live music, land Bob Harris made this great Hammersmith Odeon show with Queen '(74) happen. That show is fe-no-me-nal, I just watched it on dvd, it's really a fantastic Queen show! It was unbelievable that they never played for a crowd as big as that one in Hammersmith Odeon before, it was a first, and thank God not the last in front of a big crowd! Bob Harris, a big thank you for all the great music!!!
Hey you're the one mouthing off about them on a computer?..........your the lightweight sonny
@@realsinisterminister You're doing the same thing, you div.
This really all started when he insulted the New York Dolls. The line had been drawn in the sand and to the Punk Generation, it was clear which side he was on.
Even before that, when he insulted Roxy Music. By the time of the Sid incident, being dissed by Bob Harris was starting to become a badge of honour.
All hail the punk generation, all who insult them must be slain!
What a narcissistic trope. Ironically, counter to the punk ideal (if such a thing exists) it is conceivable some people still exist who are good.
Come on, be honest. Bob called out some stuff he thought was twaddle (as was his right) .
It is anyone else's right to disagree but the opprobrium that he had suffered ever since is absolutely outrageous and anyone who says otherwise has soul.
@@aweescotsdog8358 Kids of that generation looked at Bob Harris and saw in him their smug older brother in the sixth form or off at uni who sneered at them for liking pop and Glam Rock while he (it usually was a he) was off stroking his bearded chin listening to two-hour-long single song concept albums and telling himself how profound he was.
@@aweescotsdog8358 Think back to the 40s/50s and the way studenty Modern Jazz snobs (in duffel coats with CND badges) switched from hating the music hall songs of their parents to hating the rock n roll of their younger siblings, dismissing the WHOLE of Rock n Roll as evil commercial plastic trash. The hippy/Prog Rock generation of music fans that Bob Harris represented took the same attitude to the Glam/Punk/New Romantic generation of kids and the music they first listened to and then played.
(This was one reason why the Glam/Punk generation of kids rehabilitated Marc Bolan, seen by hippies/proggers as at least a cheesy glittery pop pretty boy and at worst as a hated traitor to the hippy underground, and turned him into an icon and Godfather like hippies had done with the Beatles. They knew how much giving Bolan that kind of acclaim would offend snooty older siblings into Gong and post-Barrett Pink Floyd, whom s&m and swastikas would fail to offend).
Zzzzzzzzzzzzz
Weller spanked sidney ferociously
He glassed him
And yet they say Sid wasn't vicious or aggressive and a 'sensitive soul.' To stick a glass in somebody's face isn't a sign of sensitivity.
It's obvious they were all nasty pieces of work - that was their gimmick! unfortunately society stuck with this attitude and look where we are now!
Hippies do my head in but violence is always wrong.
There are many different sides to everybody.
He loved a fight and was sensitive. Read the letters that he wrote to Nancy's mother after her death.
@@thesecondRUclips ? you mean after he murdered her? I've heard so many horrid stories, I really don't know how he would be considered a nice guy.
@@bluerfoot
He was a complex person. That's why he is still remembered today with no talent, he had charisma.
How would anyone turn out with a selfish heroin addict as a mother?
Jan Wobble denies even being there. In most versions he is placed very much at the scene.
Jah Wobble attacked Nick Kent, not Bob Harris. Can see why the events get mixed up.
Jah Wobble..the name...lol
@@GreenerHill : Sid attacked Nick Kent with a bike chain!
@@GreenerHill Wobble is supposed to be a right head case - proper hard nut
@@danabrahams7892 The bouncer at the 100 Club, when speaking of the Nick Kent incident, said something along the lines of "I might have gone back at him (Sid), but Wobble was standing right there....and you didn't mess with Wobble." He does seem to have that reputation.
Some of these dj's actually think they are rock stars themselfes lol.
@67psych3: Agree 100%. I went to see the Sex Pistols when they reformed, because Glen Matlock's a decent person. I would never have paid to see Sid Vicious. What a coward.
So what, I don't care. And I like cats. Still won't make me not like him. Idiot.
Then you're stupid. You probably would have been too scared to say it to his face. I personally don't care. It doesn't make me like him less.
*But for goodness sakes Bob : why didn't you just take these people TO COURT ???...*
Notice how he doesn't have the balls to say he thought punk was shit, he quotes other people as saying it was crap. Maybe he's just being polite. I mean, I like the guy but it's sly to conceal your real feelings, or hide behind other people.
Yeah! Total shite. Or maybe he's just talking about not getting sliced up with broken bottles here? You probably know better about it.
You left out; "maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn".
@@19thnervousbreakdown80 Well said.
Michael Watts sounds opportunist and jumping on the bandwagon. Because Bob Harris was polite doesn’t invalidate what he does. Sure punk brought vigor to the rock scene but it didn’t last.
So, there's a scuffle, albeit a nasty one, lasting a minute or so...and apparently in that time 'punks from all other clubs around were converging because word was out'. Yeah, Bob....sure
Serves him right for his snotty attitude to Roxy Music and the NY Dolls back in '72/'73. Clearly the BBC saw Sid's actions as viewer feedback which was why they dumped Harris.
Justice!!!
how the fuck criticizing some shit band (and Roxy Music) is a good enough reason for slashing a person's face with a fucking bottle?? They could have killed that guy (the Scottish guy)!
So what if he thinks the New York Dolls and punk was shit? He's entitled to that opinion and that stuff was shit next to Sabbath, Purple, Priest and Budgie.
+Wolfgang Von Poserkila notice that he says that others thought punk was provincial whining, he doesn't directly criticise it himself. He didn't like punk cos it wasn't aimed at the likes of him , he was too old and clueless to understand it!
GriefTourist
Maybe it was more than just that. Maybe it was because it required far less ability and talent to be in a punk band than Judas Priest.
talent? music is about feeling, that's why a million BORING bedroom guitarists who can play 1000 notes a minute are not famous and the Ramones are!
GriefTourist There's also a million shitty punk bands who most people have never heard of whilst Iron Maiden, Joe Satriani and Van Halen sell a shit ton of records.
Music isn't just about feeling, it's also about range and creativity. Punk was crucial energy to music as a whole, however it was one trick pony and lacked virtuosity and in turn pride.
Whispering Bob was unenamoured for that reason very possibly.
And all those has-been Metal bands you mentioned are also lacking. They played watered down versions of rock that were rhythm-less, blue-less and clueless. There only justification for that monotonous music was the delusion that it was supposedly the greatest music of time. It was all just hype. Punk and especially New Wave had more creativity and virtuosity although it too lacked a good beat which is why Rap rules now.
There's been many different versions of that Speakeasy story over the years, I was always inclined to believe Bob's version - till I heard him talk about a bunch of guys with mohicans bearing down on him @ 2.22 The problem is that NOBODY had a mohican haircut in 1977, that look came a few years later courtesy of losers like The Exploited.. Sorry Bob!
Raveonette lamest argument ever. But please apply for the bar. You would make an excellent defence counsel. Just leave your of reason and compassion at the door. By the way the story is well known (and whether told from Bobs side or the other it is clear that he wasn't the agrresor) why would he be ? He was a frickin hippy at the time. You couldn't get more mellow than Bob!
@@aweescotsdog8358 Never said it didn't happen, I merely hinted strongly that Bob's not remembering things very accurately. A mohawk would NEVER be seen on that pre-80s scene. Oh, and your English teacher has much to answer for. "Just leave of your reason?" "Agrresor?"
Derp.
@@aweescotsdog8358 Bob is an ex cop............he's no innocent!
The Exploited were great? Its all rock n roll! Sex Pistols were incredible!
@@realsinisterminister what does that even mean?! a cop doing their job > asshole slashing people's faces with a bottle for no reason. Always
Should have put Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers on the OGWT.
Man if he'd record himself reading some book like gone with the wind I d be shut up and take my money for sleeping!
Vicious blinded a girl, too.
In my opinion, i'd say Bob Harris got what he deserved for calling the New York Dolls "mock-rock" and Sid Vicious and many of the other punks were big fans of them, so Sid, like a REAL TRUE punk he was, threatened him. I can relate to what kind of person Sid was after watching the documentary "Sid: By Those Who Really Knew Him", and no one's gonna tell me not to idolize him or whatever, cuz I couldn't give a fuck what any one else thinks. He was the last punk with a bit of anarchy left in him.
Crabb: In turn I don't care what you think, because torturing a cat to death is not anarchic, it's cowardly and fucked-up. That was Sid Vicious.
learn the meaning of the word "anarchy"
The "mock rock" comment is pure spin - it wasn't meant as a criticism at all, Harris was way way too professional to comment subjectively, as well as polite.
The Pistols hated The Dolls. There's a song about it. Americans...
@Trixie K: Of course. Who did that?
Brimming with compassion, aren't you?
I think he's too polite, so he's just trying to be objective.
I don't want to defend the punks for physically attacking him, but he's not quite the innocent victim he makes out. This probably wouldn't have happened if he hadn't verbally disparaged the New York Dolls on OGWT, using his position of power at the BBC to act as a bully. I feel sorry for his mate, but not so much for Bob, who reaped a whirlwind of his own making.
critics do their thing - hundreds if not thousands of wonderful albums and bands were trashed by critics who just didn't get it, and it's part of the game (of music journalism), unfortunately... yeah, great reason for violence. Punk-oriented critics also came into a position of power at some point to trash everyone else's music - that's just the way it is
A bunch of guys with mohicans in 77! Yeah' right Bob.
Never trust a hippy.
never ever trust a freakin' hippy
I heard it was a hotel and that Nancy got some of it too. He also had fights with Paul Weller and Wings' guitarist Jimmy McCulloch on other occasions.
GriefTourist wow you heard a rumour
@@aweescotsdog8358 The Weller story is true - Weller bottled him...
"americans didnt understand it"
maybe because americans created the sound and the message but were told it was just good old rock and roll
and sid denied that any of this ever happened
@Trixie K I've given up talking to Americans about politics, as it's all about Daddy issues.
Punk was created in Britain. What was later called punk was a few American novelty acts like The Ramones and The Dolls.
He said "half a dozen mohican cut drunks", the first wave of punks didn't sport mohicans, the mohican crowd didn't come along until at least 1980. I know Vicious threatened him once but not sure I can fully believe his melodramatic version of this story when embellishing it with punk stereotypes who had yet to exist.
Sid Vicious is more iconic than any of you will ever be- and hating on punk, punks, or the New York Dolls is pathetic.
Check out the lyrics to sex pistols song New York.
iconic to the moronic
Procol harum road crew..
LOL at the fact that people from other clubs showed up did they have cell phones
Punks weren’t meant to be trouble makers at the time either. They abhorred confrontation with each other so I don’t believe that this shit went down the way he says, I reckon it’s more likely to have been skinheads.
a friend of his called george
not harrison
IntellectualAmy I agree with you partly but to put Metal music which is just awful over punk is a mistake.
Wow sounds overblown somebody got scared
Freddie Mercury also showed Sid up for what he really was.
Jason C Yep, never mess with a Queen😂👍
Freddie Mercury was a perfect ass Freddie Mercury had been somebody that's it admired greatly and he went to see him and Mercury was a perfect ass I don't know how we ever sucked a dick with those teeth of his
I wanna know more about that Simon Ferocious thing...I can't find any info on it. I'm on a Sid binge at the mo I'm fascinated by his short sad life.
@@desertrose1226 Long story short, Sid walked in on Freddie recording a piano track in the studio they shared and asked Freddie if he had succeeded in "bringing ballet to the masses", which was a reference to a quote Freddie gave to a newspaper around that time. Freddie responded with, "We're doing our best, Mr. Ferocious," or something to that effect, and Sid smiled and left. After both of them died, members of Queen's entourage began exaggerating the story incrementally to the point where the most recent version of the story has Freddie grabbing Sid by the collar of his jacket and throwing him up against a wall, which is total bullshit.
so did weller,so sid got his arse kicked by everyone lol
never mess with a scottish hippy! (I am one)
Poor guy.
It's because he called the dolls mock rock
*And weren't the Dolls a fucking mock-rock and ugly pool of filthy SHITE INDEED ?????????...*
Frickin hippie
Cows....?
Sheep....?
Sid vicious rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was early 1977 and I find it hard to believe that there were a gang of mohawk punks there that night. as for Sid a good fart wouldve knocked him over, he was all bark and no bite, he had a name to live up to. I often wonder if he had been named Sid Benevolent would he have lived up to that name also ???????
Fly with me Lesbian seagull
"New wave of negative thinking". Well endless prog rock with 10 minute self-indulgent keyboard, drum or guitar solos WOULD cause negative thinking. You can only hear someone playing scales as fast as they can for so long before something has to give, and thank God it did give in 1976/1977. Truth is Harris was out of touch and a dinosaur musically even back in 1976 and OGWT was something only drunks wondering in from the pub bothered to watch in the hope that maybe there'd be something vaguely listenable on. Harris and the producers responsible should have been let go from OGWT long before Annie Nightingale replaced him and they started featuring "new wave" (can't use the word "punk" can we?!) bands. History has shown who got the predictions about the music and what was actually important right.
prog rock (the good bands) is not about endless SOLOs, these songs are more like a DIY attempt at creating a symphony or something, with rock instruments, and often crazy and beautiful sonic sensibility. Lots of more adventurous prog was actually, quite unexcusably, trashed in the press because of the critics seeking 'middle ground' between that and the mass appeal. I get that the change had to come and a lot has become pretty self-indulgent and/or incomprehensible for many ppl, but musically, only the post-punk bands and perhaps some of the Clash or Buzzcocks' songs hold any ground - other than that - BORING, endless simplistic 2minute songs replicating Johnny B Goode and spouting slogans. I get it that it was probably cool to be there (as in: co-creating culture, having a voice, DIY all that stuff, and the exciting possibility of getting your face slashed with a bottle at a gig - cool!) - but as music - again - fucking b o r i n g (pistols and the rest of it). and I'm saying that as someone who had not experienced any of that during the time it happened: born in the late 80s - so I'm just judging from the legacy.
Bunny teeth.
who is "george" that he is talking about? george harrison??
Of course I outright condemn what happened to him, however... I think if _anyone_ from my generation happened to be in the vicinity of his fake transatlantic tones - particularly his pronunciation of the word record as 'recud' - the struggle not to take an instinctive punch would be tough.
Freedom!!
Are you thinking of the buffoonish, utterly fake Tony Blackburn?
@@DM-hh7wl No, I was thinking of the slightly less buffoonish and fake Whispering Bob.
Sid was about as hard a natural yogurt with organic honey - shows what a wimp Bob must have been.
Harris was a rugby player I think he probably could have beaten the shit out of them if they'd not been armed with glasses or whatever it was.
Golly Bob what a shocking story and ever so frightening for you and your chums' LOL
@67psych3 I believe he did. I just listened to my way by sid yesterday and he says he killed a cat on that song
@67psych3 Kurt cobain killed a cat too.
@ianmcgeachy I didn't know that, if that's true then it's the best anecdote ever. I don't know who's worse, though--Bob Harris or Sid Vicious....
I think these sorts of incedences are exagerrated for publicity reasons.
Sounds like he's reading an Audiobook for the infirm. Boooooring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HiPpY
Bullshit ,face it , the underprivileged will rise , slander will not save your type.
class war.. let the ugley and unimaginate trample
o another working class hero. what wrong with the UK? never minds the black s the foreigners the this the that
the class war is the most alienating. all from the saem bloody country spitting fire. and dont kill the cat because that sinks lower than the c
bloody chip on the heros shoulder.
class war. the start of sheer mediocrity. the bottom of the barrell no excuse. even the 'amusing video' of side viscious singing i did it my way..is an overt attack on the so called posh. shooting them in the audiencd funny? no deadly serious and say many people admire anything that says " up yours" and cheeks them insults them...thats not right..weakness.
WALOFS
Great story told by the most boring speaker in the world.
Ha ha ha....God Bless Sid Vicious!...get stuffed, hippie.
So what did George Nicolson, the sound engineer, ever do to you? 18 head stitches and a slashed wrist, so it's "God bless Sid Vicious"? You are an arse hole.
fool
Not a very good recording, theres a really annoying whining sound all the way through it. Oh no, wait a sec....that's Bob's voice.
Bob Harris could of destroyed Sid vicious lol
Shut up
The pistols were amazing group and still is
Good hearted people
Sid vicious was very in a dark heroin shit but he is a good person otherwise....I wish he had a grave ...