Why The U.S. Government Is Suing Apple
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- Опубликовано: 31 мар 2024
- On March 21st, the US Department of Justice sued Apple for antitrust violations. Claiming that Apple has an illegal monopoly on the smartphone market with iPhone. So what exactly is Apple doing wrong? Well, the DOJ has provided five reasons. First, is preventing “super apps” from ever existing on iPhone.
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Yo can you make a video on why competition in the Apple ecosystem actually benefits consumers? I get a lot of angry replies from people who don’t understand this and treat any choices in the ecosystem as a bad thing lol. Love your videos 👍
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@@TNTkeynine What
@@LeeStewart Isheep 🤣🤣
There was a time when it was only Microsoft. Now it's all companies but Microsoft. Time has changed a lot.
To be fair, Microsoft was sued by the FTC 2 years ago when they acquired Activision Blizzard (even though that lawsuit didn’t succeed)
actually it's still Microsoft everywhere, that is why Microsoft still has the highest Market Cap.
Microsoft only got sued once they already became a monopoly. At that point it was too late. The world was too reliant on Windows. Apple outsells Android in America but even still it’s only 60:40. However, that will definitely change. 87% of teens have an iPhone, and Apple purposely makes it hard to switch, meaning in 10-15 years time they definitely will have an even bigger monopoly. It’s good that something’s being done about it now. Even if you’re an Apple fan, them being forced to adopt more open standards and thus facing more competition makes thing better for everyone as it forces them to do even better to earn your sale rather than relying on trapping you in a walled garden you can’t leave.
Side note, seems everyone wants iMessage to be fixed, I feel like I’m the only one who cares more about Quick Share and AirDrop being compatible with each other lmao
Sort of... The things MS is doing with edge nowadays is way worse than IE back in the day.
@@IceBlueLugia Genuinely, it’d be really nice to have Airdrop & Quick share be compatible with other. I’m sick of having to send people Google Drive links just to share small files with them
So, are they considered bad apples now?
Real
Apple was always bad with these kind of stuff
Da bum crash
@@FunkyPants92apple used to be way worse, they had obtrusive drms on itunes, had usb a cables that had notches which would only work with apple ports
the song?
Appreciate the lack of personal opinion here, and just summarizing the lawsuit as it is, thank you!
Lol I thought this was for April Fool's.
Same
Sadly it’s not.
@@AlohaJade808 sadly? Wdym? Apple has too much money anyways
@@titustech337 well I think if you have one billion dollars you don't want to lose them.
@@wixonic yeh but they have trillions
When crap happens in America. We sue em.
Sometimes lol
As a non american , i'm surprised with the amount of people sueing for petty reasons, how a civilisation is going to survive if each and every one is suing each other
@@neggas-sueing is better than shooting. Imo
@@neggas- there’s definitely some dumb lawsuits, but this is a good one tbh
@@neggas-me too
The last rule like I have to give up on installing payment apps. Since Wallet app is exclusively used in certain countries. While the app one that I used is only available in my country.
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Not sure I understand what is mean with text only vs icons to display mini programs. 🤔
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imo I think its a political hit job after the Apple Watch patent thing offended one of the donors supporting the current DOJ, other industries have anti-consumer monopoly practices, plus this admin allowed other companies to merge and have this much if not more monopoly control. 🤷♀️
Apple prohibit others from tracking (good) while collecting and selling data yourself (antitrust)
Apple introduced a subscription-based gaming library on your device (good) while collecting 30% from all competitor games and banning other gaming libraries from competing (antitrust)
Apple introduced an Apple TV app to aggregate streaming options from dozens of companies (good) and then integrate their own streaming service that dominates said app and competes against those they take a 30% cut from (antitrust)
Apple created a music streaming platform that integrates well with your devices (good) while preventing their competitors from having the same access to acquire new customers through your device-and take 30% of their profits (antitrust)
None of that of true. And that first point doesn't make sense.
@@DavidKen878it is. In IOS there's code that records data about you and sends it back to Apple (after a time frame, let's say 20 mins).
Double standards on the DOJ's part given most of the complaints they have against Apple are already being changed. Also ironic that they're not suing Google, Samsung, etc. when some of the complaints they made in this lawsuit can also apply to Android manufacturers as well.
And they are suing for the wrong reasons
Apple is already making changes because of laws and pressure from the EU. They aren't making these changes out of the goodness of their heart lol. Also, Apple has over 60% of the total US phone market. So, this is the other reason they are being singled out.
@@AustinTechAuthority Don't people choose for themself which phone they want? I mean if i want an iphone i can get an iphone, if i want a samsung i can get a samsung. I dont understand why they are doing this while people literally choose for themself with the brain they have.
@@defaultplane You're right but sometimes these things take that choice away from the people, for example if you own an apple watch you cant have anything other than the iPhone since you cant use all the features of the watch, you might like the S24 but all your friends might have an iPhone so you don't want to be the only one with the green texts. This one might seem silly but is actually happening in the real world especially with today's teens.
@@Techtinkerer3D ahh, okay, thx
I switched to Apple because Samsung was making their phones more and more like iPhones (headphone jack removal was the last straw), but without the security or easy connectivity to my Mac and iPad. No one forced me to switch.
Only in America
U need to use apple
Coz of that community
Otherwise
Nevermind
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Bruh who do you think is the reason for poor connectivity with mac & ipad?? Thats apple literally forcing you to switch😅
Base on ur comment , I think U.S government will be get another reason to sue Apple and that is “ Making difficulty to connect android and Macs” .
Nowadays Apple has getting loss their security. If we googling, we can saw the news about scamming issues on iPhone , I saw about it last 5days ago.
And one year ago I think ,there has a thief who changing the iPhone password with the permission of iPhone owners.
But already fixed with software updates
You just explained how Apple forced you to switch.
I bet the judges or someone who is going against Apple has at least one device from Apple💀💀💀💀
You should do a video on why Siri is so frustrating to use. I could think of many reasons.
Same for dictation. Apple couldn’t keep it simple with this feature
Imo the watch claim is total bs. Every company has their own smartwatch made for their phones. Smartwatches are literally commonly known as the biggest lock in for any ecosystem.
Then every company should be sued for that as well because if u buy one product it should work how it intended and should be seperate from a other product
@ilikeblank I could see some features requiring linking to specific sensors on the phone, and unless an open standard is developed for those sensors it wont work
@@AMidgetWalrusthat’s THE POINT of the lawsuit lmao did you watch the video? Lord have mercy we are doomed
@@swankyangelo Who's developing it though? Apple? Samsung? Some commission/joint venture?
I suppose you could say it was implied that would be done, but who would be doing it?
This would be the role of legislation, NOT a singular lawsuit, unless you intend Apple to foot the bill for some reason.
But keep being smug and offering nothing to the conversation :D
Have you read the actual claim or you are just commenting based on the interpretation of this video? If you haven't, please read it before calling it bs.
with the appl ewatch not workign on android, the google and samsung watches dont work well on iphone. is america court goign to do soemthign about that
No because apple is the cause for both not being compatible
I switched from android because of problems. I was in their ecosystem and it was a mess. I switched to apple with iPhone first, then Apple Watch, next was another iPhone (for a family member), then an apple computer. The Apple ecosystem is fantastic for me. Everything works with no wasted time ( like with Microsoft and android).
Microsoft Windows and open source Android were never made to perfectly work with each other. These are separate things
Throw that money away
Can I use a Galaxy Watch with my iPhone? Do I get all the features?
Yes. It uses an app called Galaxy wearables that can be downloaded on iOS as well. Apple also has an apple but the problem is that they have restricted this app to iPhone
@@Techtinkerer3D thanks for your reply. I don’t understand all the fuss about this. Apple always has been a closed system and people who buy an Apple product must know that. I rather - in my simple user ignorance- prefere Apple security than to risk being in an open OS.
Well, I hope not… you’ll need a galaxy phone
@@TheLonet Samsung is way more secure. It has Knox.
@@itistheofficialanimeboylimited my point exactly. So what’s the matter with Apple?
Oddly enough after years on Android I switched back to Apple for these reason as all of them effect security. Funny thing is that most IT Security professionals I know have moved to Apple for the similar reasons. I do think they can make iMessage more compatible but otherwise no one is forcing anyone to buy Apple, people buy them because they don't want to deal with all the other headaches.
the more i see this lawsuit the stupider it gets 🤦🏻♂️
explain the apple wallpapers
They are pretty
@@ThatIceChampion Samsung's are also very pretty. Plus most of samsungs are Video wallpapers
Yeah they are blurry on top. They never fixed it
@@NanookThedestruction oh thats the gradient. It sucks
@@crazywarp36Stop fanboying. Jesus Christ. All you do is "Apple bad, Samsung is so amazing" in the most ridiculous way possible under every comment.
I'm genuinely surprised by how many are offended by the lawsuit that gives them more choice and features on their phone.
Brainwashed consumers.
It's obvious they are just Apple🐑 stuck in the Ecosystem
Exactly. I can only imagine that the people mad at this believe the entire world should just use Apple products and software or something. Because Apple being forced to adopt more open standards just gives others the choice; nobody has to use any of them
@@hubris04Apple is a closed Ecosystem. Android is an open Ecosystem. When you buy the phone YOU choose that. Android shouldn't be forced to be more like apple and apple shouldn't be forced to be more like Android
@@kelza0okay, but why do you care? Nothing will change for you, all the above thigns will give you a CHOICE if you want to side load or have something other than apple wallet etc. you can still jerk off to Apple every night with no difference. You would not even know they changed something.
Love the company competitive practices that just impact the user experiences
My brother in Christ competition is what drives innovation
@@SerhatAtayMD Then what did I say brother?
@@golsitito4492did you mean “anti-competitive”?
@@SerhatAtayMD in this case its everything but innovation; the user is being limited here rather than brought up
To me I think Apple should allow user to deinstall iOS completely so they don’t have to deal with these lawsuits. You want side loading, simple, just deinstall iOS. You devs want super-apps, just deinstall iOS.
It’s not just about the closed ecosystem. It’s not even about competing in the same markets as others. It’s about Apple putting their feet on both sides of the line-are they competing with Spotify? Netflix? Epic? Or are they managing user access to said services? You can’t just set yourself up as a moderator of the user’s online interactions-creating an incredibly robust system of aggregation and limits, creating a multi-billion-dollar global market-and then jump in and compete against the other companies with a massive unfair advantage they can never get around. I’m surprised these lawsuits didn’t come sooner.
Finally! Someone who understands how business and Econ work
@@CallMeRabbitzUSVII am sometimes convinced that these iSheep are just some bots bought by apple to defend the company.
I could say the same about Samsung accept for the messaging.
Samsung copies Apple (charger, 3.5mm jack removal...)if Apple is a good boy Samsung will follow suit.
everybody uses whatsapp except the US, so messaging is never a problem in other countries
I'd like to know what kinds of apps are being downloaded straight from websites in the EU. This reminds me of the iOS 1.0 days of downloading webpage bookmarks as an "app" to the homescreen.
Apple does allow apps with icons in them I published an app years ago using icons and multiple apps combined in 1 app and they allowed it.
When Microsoft and Android had majority share over the market the US gov had no problem with them monopolizing the industry... but when it's Apple all of a sudden they care enough to sue... meanwhile there are over 50,000 homeless people in LA alone- where is the US gov when it comes to actually helping the people rather than them spending all our taxpayer dollars on a frivolous lawsuit??? Ridiculous!!!
They were not eliminating competition from the market by the locking their massive OS down .Monopoly is not a problem but eliminating competition .And also it does not affect you at all and i would be happy to understand how it affects you.
And also microsoft did got sued in the 90s for that , and google has also sued google in recent time.
Look up "whataboutism". This is not how you make a valid argument. There exist homeless people?? I guess we shouldn't regulate big companies to benefit consumers then!
They're not handicapping their competition.
Hope Apple fixes these issues. I love my iphone, and I hope I can message with my android friends without relying on WhatsApp.
Samsung is better. You should try it out.
Your iPhone would be more expensive and would be harder to maintain.
@@WealthyHabits-bv2tlby allowing you to send higher quality pictures to android users??
@@WealthyHabits-bv2tlHarder to maintain what exactly? RCS hasn’t been updated in 15 years.
Yep every service has a price and data transfer has just become the priciest thing out there,@@IF31I
Finally the U.S is dealing with them XD
lol the US “you have money now, and we want more of your money, and please, change the key parts of your companies philosophy to be like every other tech company, so there in the future will be no differences between you.”
People 2010: Apples closed system will fail, it‘s bad
People 2024: Closed system is too good, we have to ban it
😂
I still think it's bad
The lawsuit isn't because the walled garden is TOO GOOD but naturally someone with a Memoji pfp would see it like that
@@BrancliffNo shit, Sherlock?
@@Brancliff Of course, someone with a cartoon profile picture has to take every comment on the Internet literally
Damn
I feel like the 4th one is just not a good reason as other watches like the google pixel watch is only compatible with android and also they are getting sued bc of watches and why not AirPods
The Pixel watch is exclusive to Android, not to Pixel phones. Pretty big difference there. And, I'm willing to bet that the only reason it doesn't work on the iPhone is the exact same reason Samsung eventually dropped iOS support on their watches, Apple's closed ecosystem meant that they just couldn't make the experience universal.
I switched to apple because i like the user interface plus it takes great photos
And has that thing 🤌🏽 you know!
Others prefer to zoom in and see the moon 🌘
If I just wanted to go from my iPhone to a Google Pixel (Android) phone, it sucks that my Apple Watch is essentially useless now.
And Samsung watches don’t work with iPhones. So it’s the same
They do, there is a galaxy wearables app for iOS, and he wasn't talking about samsung at all. Even pixel has an iOS version of wear OS@@TRIALEX3
@@TRIALEX3 Because apple prevents samsung watches from working with iphones.
@@TRIALEX3 Thats due to apple.
@@crazywarp36It was Samsung who prevented their watches from working on iPhones a couple years ago, what are you on about?
I do like most of apples ideas and sad that they are sue apple
The multiple games is so apparent with Genshin Impact. Apple has exclusive access to 120 fps features with ProMotion displays, leaving PC users behind for four years already.
This makes me realize that the government is really useful.
Fun Fact:
5GB iCloud storage is also getting SUED to increase it since it’s the same 2011 (13 years)
the apple watch argument is like getting mad why my honda car keys don't unlock my toyota, and then suing honda for it
That argument is misrepresented in this video. Read the lawsuit or watch other channels that really explain the lawsuit.
What?
Ant-Competetive laws are made not to make people use several cars with the same key, but to make sure that people can switch to another brand, without being crippled to drive, by the car company you are trying to leave. Cars are a bad example in a digital space, but you shouldn't engage in anti-competitive behaviour by deliberately crippling your device through software, just to prevent users from switching to another brand.
apple watch is a separate product, meanwhile the honda car keys are a part of the honda car
@@artorhemhsnaved car companies sell many accessories that only work on their cars. gonna sue them for that too?
So will it be a bad idea for me to invest in Apple ? I just started an investment pie .
It's really sad how Apple sales are pretty much influenced by peer pressure, that's why majority of their sales are teens and young adults in the US.
I immediately knew how bad it was when I was in high school. I remember a girl dropped her android phone and the phone split, with battery popping out. A group of freshman students were walking by when it happened, and I remember one of them looking down at the girl scrambling to pick up the pieces of her phone, and he yells, "F*cking android!"
I felt so bad for the poor girl. Coming from a low income household, an Apple product was just something we never could afford, so I heavily sympathized for the girl. You can probably guess how pissed I was at those kids.
They couldn’t have even tried to go against my biggest problem with iOS, no sideloading
Plesse, let me know how you make videos like these?
Well, i would love to consider other options to what Apple is offering, but there is simply nothing else there. I want quality and seamlessness. User from EU.
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Lol i though this was for Fool's Day.
I’m pretty sure Apple will find a loophole and keep things as they are with so minimal changes the same way it happened with the EU iPhones
You could sue any company with type of logic :) DOJ is going to loose most of these..
Gov. has no business telling private companies how to design their products. All it does is raise costs for the consumers.
Apple prohibit others from tracking (good) while collecting and selling data yourself (antitrust)
Apple introduced a subscription-based gaming library on your device (good) while collecting 30% from all competitor games and banning other gaming libraries from competing (antitrust)
Apple introduced an Apple TV app to aggregate streaming options from dozens of companies (good) and then integrate their own streaming service that dominates said app and competes against those they take a 30% cut from (antitrust)
Apple created a music streaming platform that integrates well with your devices (good) while preventing their competitors from having the same access to acquire new customers through your device-and take 30% of their profits (antitrust)
@@Desireanshu And what is your source on these claims? Especially the "selling data yourself" one? I am not saying it cannot be happening, but I would bet a fair bit of money on you not being able to prove it, given that it´s quite a big chunk of Apple´s entire business model.
@@kefinkamedHe can't because they don't make sense. Especially the Apple Music part.
@@DavidKen878 Maybe you need to familiarize yourself with the real policies Apple have. Many times you can see that something should be inspected for anti-trust practices because it "doesn't make any sense" to be that way (like disallowing Chrome to offer their browser extensions in iOS but allowing Safari to have its own market for browser extensions).
Wow, the concept of a “monopoly” sure is getting twisted.
Yeah like wtf. I have lived 24 years without ever using a single Apple product. I recently switched to an iPhone because Android was a mess and the good Android phones are so expensive I might as well just buy an iPhone and enjoy the ecosystem and the long dated updates. There's no monopoly at all.
It is anti-trust and anti-competetive practices that are being discussed in the lawsuit. The same laws used by the DOJ to sue Microsoft and allowed Apple to be here today (Apple would have gone bankrupt without DOJ intervention).
Im surprised after all of the videos I've seen on the lawsuit, not one of them mentions the inability to sideload apps which would be another legitimate reason for this lawsuit
That's not an antitrust issue.
You can sideload apps. But you have to redownload every week.
for the apple watch arguement, why cant the google pixel watch work with iphone, it loses most of its functionality and makes switching phones harder since you would need to buy a new apple watch
first none april fools video that i watch today👀
bro even android doesn’t make their watches compatible with iphone
It’s like one buying LG tv and expects to use Panasonic remote control 😂
Not even the same thing. Read the DOJ explanation rather sounding like an ignorant turd
Hilariously, most remotes use IR so there's actually a pretty decent chance you could get a Panasonic remote to work with an LG TV 😂
Downgrading other phones picture qualities is crazy😂.
Screw this company
Old politicians need to stay out of things they don't know about
Of all the things that bother me about Apple products, these don´t even crack the top 10 🤣
Didn’t Samsung make their latest watches exclusive?
It doesn't work because of compatibility issues on iOS, mostly because Apple makes it difficult for their competitors to develop for them and have all the same features.
Galaxy watches work with pretty much any android even Pixel which is probably their biggest android competitor.
I don't think I'm for government intervention in areas like this. Yes I think it would be nice for Apple to make things easier and more accessible for the other side but don't think they should be forced by the government to make these convenient but not necessary features. If companies want to create exclusive products I don't think that they should be stopped. If you don't like it you don't have to use it. A company should be able to choose what to do with their products (on legal guidelines of course). Why does Netflix subscription have to be so exclusive? Why shouldn't the government just force Netflix and other companies to make a subscription that works for all streaming platforms?
Because Netflix is not actively stopping you from using other streaming platforms, for example AirPods and Apple Watch do not work with android, ie Apple Watch doesn’t work outright as for AirPods they won’t update and have to be taken to the Apple Store. There are lot more anti competitive things apple is doing than just this, for example not allowing side loading by USER choice. 30% cut is too harsh on devs moreover you are FORCED to use the App Store and not allowed to use any store you would like, and apple bullies companies in the App Store for example Spotify had to face a ton of issues, floatplane’s app (LTT’s company) were not allowed to direct people to use their website to sign up even though Netflix had the same feature and apple outright said to them that Netflix was big so they were allowed but floatplane can’t. I love apple for a lot of things they do but they are being dicks in a lot of ways they don’t have to be.
Google Play also takes 30%
@@dan9802 yes but you have alternate app stores and sideloading, that’s the main argument
Apple switched to RCS last month 💀 like bruh
These super apps are a really bad idea. They will be used to monitor everything we do and control us!!
These clown really made that comment in 2024
Everything already is monitored...
@@Mini3x3so let it happen anyways? No
@@bryanbroacosta I don't mean to oppose the lawsuits, I just wanted to point out our current lack of privacy.
No, WeChat is not the only super app out there. It wasn't explicitly said, but after all this, you don't have to touch super apps whatsoever. The whole point of the lawsuit is to ALLOW you to do so, not FORCE you to do so.
The TikTok incident reveals how lacking the Department of Justice is in understanding of IT knowledge.🤣
Weren't those senators and not the justice department? 💀
Government overreach…
Nah, disrupting monopolies is very much what governments should be doing tbh
@@TNTkeynine the only reason they are going after Apple is because of lobbying. You don’t see them going after google or Amazon right now do you? That’s because those two companies are deep in politicians pockets
Does Google let you set up a Pixel Watch with anything but a Pixel? I think not, however I may be mistaken.
Ya i don’t think so either
Nah
You can actually.
pixel watch works with any android
@@cleverme1009so doesn’t Android have a monopoly then?
Wait, if I break the law, I get fined/arrested immediately.
If Apple breaks the law, they get sent some documents in the mail?
You really need to stop making comments if they are going to be this stupid. Getting arrested and getting sued are not the same thing. The goal of a lawsuit like this is change behavior with-in a company. Apple can't get arrested and go to jail. You understand that right? And the fact you're getting upvotes is wild as hell. Do you really think they need goto jail because they developed a product that works better on their devices? None of these allegations are JAIL worthy acts.
I can understand three of them, but numbers 3 and 4 are ridiculous. iMessage is proprietary. Of course it's going to work better with iPhones than Android Phones (even though both are compatible), and the same goes for disabled apps on Android for Apple Watch. Besides, Android isn't clean from similar proprietary tech. The only reason they get away with it is because Google puts the OS on different smartphones and not just their own.
The problem is that they artificially do it and one of the reason is using social pressure to make teenagers associate "bad quality" with Android phones.
The problem with Apple Watch is not really about how well it works in Android Phones, but how bad they make any other Smart Watch in iOS (by not allowing the same internal functions as they do with Apple Watch, the same kind of strategy that Microsoft made 20+ years ago with Internet Explorer and was used by DOJ to break Microsoft monopoly).
it's a closed system people
being a monopolist is a crime against the free market, that is how the economy works, people
I am not referring to the trading global economy I am talking about the apple OS, that is why it doesn't just host everything else Apple wouldn't have the quality you so adore people.@@DariaTimurovich
The real question to be asked here is not why Apple is being sued, but instead why it took so long for that to happen
I think keeping apps separate is ok and they should be able to make that decision for ui purposes.
2:15 bruh this is with Android watches as well
Well the difference is that Apple blocks other smart watches from using the same features that the Apple Watch has. Samsung Watch DOES work with iPhone but it is gimped because Apple limits what it can do artificially
It's apple's problem that these watches have limited function with iPhones
@@5eder.Not really. It's not their responsibility. The other companies need to make apps to make it compatible.
Someone tells that this is an April Fools joke
I don't understand why it's bad that Apple is unique and also a closed system... It is good because your devices are much safer from outside viruses than others. The other problem is that they're not going to make Android or other devices better, they're going to make Apple worse. I don't think that's essential. There's also talk of Apple pushing out other manufacturers, but please, Apple has been working on their whole system for years, decades to be able to do that. I also thought forcing Apple to switch from Lightning connector was a bit unnecessary, obviously it's easier to use USB-C, but what's wrong with wanting to be special?
How is it going to make Apple worse?
The ecosystem is good, but it's locked to Apple devices. The lawsuit is to ALLOW you to go beyond Apple while staying in the ecosystem. This does not compromise security whatsoever if you don't change your habit (e.g. if you don't install WeChat, nothing changes for you.).
As for the connector, Apple wasn't being "special," it was being proprietary and outdated. It relied on the USB 2.0 spec from the year 2000, and there was absolutely no reason for them to not update the connector since they first used it. Above that, you simply just couldn't reuse the connector anywhere else, or reuse the industry standard USB-C connector on the iPhone. It created a lot of e-waste, so the EU forced Apple to change it.
As someone who's on Android, the point about SMS/MMS would hugely benefit me and every iPhone user I communicate with. There's no downside to using RCS with non-iMessage devices, since I could now text you guys normal quality photos and videos and vice versa.
I hope that helps you understand the perspective a little more, but I see your interpretation of it. :)
@@DeerJerky
Yeah, it's true, if I don't change my habits it's not really going to change for me, you get the point.
I think they could have got a lot more out of the Lightning port if they had paid a bit more attention to it, but USB-C isn't much better, it's still slow and has issues, but that's mostly Apple's fault. "It created a lot of e-waste" which is so shitty (in my opinion), lots of things create a lot more e-waste and they don't really care about that, so okay I understand why it's better to have usb-c, but then don't just support it by saying there's a lot of e-waste.
The SMS/MMS changes are really needed because it's so shitty to talk to people using Android and it's not fair.
I guess it was just a bit of a stupid moment from me, because if I don't change the way I use it, it's not really going to change for me.
I think there are a lot of problems with Apple, but it's still the best for me, but that's why I understand people using Android.
Thank you for not being angry with me, just explaining things from your perspective.
(This is the way it should work, everyone gives their point of view and everyone listens to each other.)
@@marton8596 Hey man no worries, you were just expressing your concerns and I didn't see it as lashing out or being stupid! I kinda also feel like I went a bit dry on my reply, my apologies. I definitely agree with the need to have civil conversations more often haha, and I really appreciate you sharing that.
I will say that the e-waste point definitely could've been a lot worse, the ruling was already a little silly in the way that it ironically made all existing lightning cables e-waste. I do agree with you there. Now that I think about it, we really rely on wireless a lot more than wired, so there's not much point in having fast USB speeds when we have Nearby Share/AirDrop and WiFi, it'd explain why nobody really focuses on having the fastest wired connection speed.
I'm honestly just excited to finally have cross platform RCS & not care which phone I have, since for some reason I always feel like I ruin group chats just by being in them w/o iMessage :/
All in all, I really like iPhones, Pixels, Samsung S-series, etc. I honestly think the "Apple v android" is pointless because they both are really cool. Apple is seamless and has the ecosystem, while android phones generally have their own specialties (e.g. Pixels with machine learning tools like audio and magic eraser). Who cares what phone somebody prefers?
“Closed system =good” lmao it’s the opposite the more open source it is the safer it is.
How interoperability making Apple worse?
“Unnecessary “? Are you fr?
“Wanting to be special “ this is what Apple sheep’s are lmao, thx for this.
This is definitely an April Fool’s joke
2:13 the samsung watch doesn’t work with iPhone
samsung smartwatches can work with any phone which isn't an iphone, which is because of apple only, they limit the functionality, not samsung
Suing them for Apple Watch not operating with Android and not suing for 200$ memory upgrades is a crime in and of itself.
you can`t sue a company for its dump customers
so thats why apple stock is so low
1:56 Bruh they are changing to RCS 💀
But they continue to use the "Green Bubble" and some other features are still unavailable
I thought they cancelled that
@@Techtinkerer3D Yet androids can choose whatever color they want for the bubble 🤣🤣
@@crazywarp36 🤣🤣🤣
Facebook messenger, whatsapp, telegram, snapchat are all using it. iMessage is a closed system..
Apple for investors: great! Keep up the monopoly.
Apple for consumers: nah... don't bother with repair, just buy another iPhone
you raise them big and you sue them later. big gov thinking
Dumbest lawsuit in history.
When I was on Android I had zero interest in Apple ecosystem, and now that I'm on Apple I have zero interest in Android ecosystem. All this talking about mixed ecosystems is quite silly frankly. People who don't like Apple don't buy Apple stuff, as simple as this. If I was going to really love an android watch and decide to buy it, I won't pair it with an iPhone, I'd chose a phone that gives me the best experience, and that's an Android phone obviously.
Honestly the DOJ v Apple Inc. has no sense at all, since Apple is promoting their own products and exosystem, which is fair. The problem is that Google is the real comoany having a monopoly over the phone business as every phone maker depends on Android OS and by forcing Apple to accept Google’s demands, it only makes Android even more powerful, and lets not even mention Google using the philosophy “Quantity over Quality” ehile Apple is indeed working for the best of customers in terms of security and service. In simple words, the DoJ wants to lower the standard of Apple by forcing them to adopt measures that will affect Apple and will give more power to Google. Is as simple as that.
Bro this argument makes no sense RCS is close to what Apple is using and Apple Arcade doesn't even compare to other companies. Yes some of the point they made are valid, nobody outside Asia uses or wants super apps even on android and also most people buy smart watches matching the company as well as most WearOS devices having a similarly bad/limited experience on IOS as well (which I think a good portion is Google's doing). But to act like Apple's walled garden is done all the time for the highest quality instead of complete control is realms that do not need that level of control is foolish, you might as well say that having lightning is better than USB C and all iPads and iPhones need to switch back instead of moving to something more expansive and allows for more interoperability and capability between users of all devices.
True. Apple must've done something the government doesn't like and this is just a facade imo. Tim probably refused to unlock a phone of some politician's cheating wife haha.
Android is open source. Unless Google takes down the project anyone can use it for free without licensing fees or any connection to google at all. The lawsuit, if won, would make smartphones a better experience for android and apple users. What is the downside here, apple's stock price goes down? Apple is a trillion dollar corporation, not your friend.
Were you born stupid or something caused it later on?
Do you really think apple is not collecting your data for advertisment on their own platform
Huh? Apple? What is that? Never heard tech company named like that 🙃
You have a chance to get a Play Station or a Xbox if you want. The game are not compatible. You can get a Blue Ray Player or a Lazier Disc Player and they are not compatible. Your AMC card will not work at the Regal Theaters. The Government should not tell you what to spend your money on.
That is ridiculous. Apple Watch is for APPLE not android. 🤖
That's the point of the lawsuit... Make it work with Android so people looking to switch have an easier time... I don't think you understood the video.
@@mrkoyunreiswell you can’t really use a Samsung watch with an iPhone either so it goes both ways
@@fake19132 Yeah i know, and that's stupid too.
@@mrkoyunreisTime to sue them too!
@@fake19132 You can with any android though. Please stop calling Samsung "Android" because there are literally many android brands making smart watches that are compatible to any android users. If apple didn't exist, no one would ever throw their smart devices because they can switch to another brand and have no issues. The whole problem is on Apple and I know they make some "good" products but this act is literally gatekeeping you to switch on Android which allows easy compatibility and uniqueness
They got inspiration from the EU 😂
The thing I don’t get is about the Monopoly is, if you don’t want Apple, use Android. That defeats the literal definition of a “Monopoly”
That’s not the case, isn’t about wanting “apple” or “android” it is how apple has made negative actions and decisions to keep developers and customers attached to the company at the same time apple makes all of that to keep gaining earnings affecting others. The video literally doesn’t explain anything about the problem.
Most of people who hate Apple are developers because of their restrictions and higher prices on the developer's side. For example, if you want to develop apps for IOS you need an Apple developer account membership that you will pay $99 annually if i'm correct. Also if you develop an app that charges users, then Apple will take 30% of every purchase made on your app regardless of the developer's company/startup size. Also Apple has full control on user's device where the only place you can get apps is on Apple's app store, with that they can decide to remove other competitive apps from their store so that they can develop their own apps with no pressure. Also recently on their VisionOS platform they banned some developer's app that if I remember correctly it can be an alternative to home screen of VisionOS so that only them they can make it for their devices, after that those developers decided to open source their app on GitHub after being banned. All of these makes Apple keeps killing their competitors and also killing innovations over Apple's ecosystem, that's why IOS has lack some cool apps and features because only Apple have full control over their devices than any other developers.
so basically a duopoly. mhm.
@@Karolsalas2019 That's a good point
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Users buy Apple products for the closed ecosystem. There's a product design language, marketing, consistency, etc... Forcing Apple to make all of these changes will not impact buying decisions of those already invested in and who prefer Apple products, however it may open the platform enough to entice a few Android users to make the switch knowing they won't be so locked in.... Alternative app stores on mobile is a joke. Android has had them as an option for 10+ years and over 95% of apps installed on Android devices originate from the official Google Play Store... The DOJ is wasting our tax money, bending to lobbyist who are ignorant about the request they are making.
Why is any of this apples problem. Next they should sue Chevrolet because my Ford seat covers don’t fit on my Chevrolet seat.
More like Chevrolet forcing you to only buy Chevy tires and Chevy gas.
@@Jppen not really. Apple isn’t forcing you to not buy a Samsung watch. But people don’t want to because it’ll be shit with an Apple iPhone.
@@cypher686 they are forcing you to apple watch only. because they intentionally limit the functionality of other smart watches, so that apple watch looks better. there is no doubt that apple watch is one the best, if not the best smartwatch for most customers but shouldn't mean they should limit the other smartwatches
@@cypher686 love how you ignored his comment king
@@meroinheroin what comment? the thing about Chevrolet forcing you to buy their gas? because they don't sell gas so it doesn't really make sense.
Number 3 is messed up like.I'm an android person, so when my mom texts me a picture, it's very low resolution.So this is messed up, apple
orange
This is the closest US gets to be like Europe
The DOJ appears to be misinterpreting Apple's 'ecosystem' as a sign of a 'monopoly.' In reality, Apple's comprehensive control, from chip design to consumer products, is a rare feat in the tech industry. This integrated structure is the very foundation of the Apple ecosystem, delivering significant benefits to customers. Apps and hardware interact seamlessly, updates flow effortlessly - it's the reason behind the 'it just works' experience that consumers value.I have both Apple and Android devices including Apple Watch, and I don't want to connect my watch to my Android phone, it will ruining my smooth user experience.
Do others support mini-apps (apps within apps)? Regardless, fail to see it limiting the user experience in any way. Meanwhile the brilliant tight integration does not preclude APIs to give users/developers some options, like Apple wallet lockdown seems self-serving (of Apple’s profits, not UX).
how will being able to connect your apple watch to an android ruin your smooth experience? Its just giving you more options
I agree. I say this as an avid Linux user and Android ROM user. It can't be a monopoly; there are popular alternatives. Are some of the moves stupid/ bunghole moves? Yes. Is it antitrust? Almost certainly not. Sue Apple for making their parts permanetly software paired. There is no reason for it, it hurts the end consumer, and the environment.
Then don’t connect it to the watch.
Most of Apple's monopoly issues are on the developers side, not the customers one. If you personally want to pay more (see: monopoly profit) to Apple, you will be able to do that on your own as a charity.
People have the choice to choose apple or android its simple you cant have both casue apple likes to do there own tbing and i dont blame them
To be honest, Apple's ecosystem's a bit of a necessary evil, though "evil" is a bit of a stretch.