Rolex: The Battle Of The Air-Kings - New vs Old

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • The Air-King used to be a very odd watch in Rolex's catalogue. So odd, that many predicted the watch would soon be discontinued. This did not happen. Instead, Rolex refreshed the Air-King earlier in 2022. Did they succeed? Let's have a look and let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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  • @ron74555
    @ron74555 2 года назад +56

    I own both and the new one is a massive improvement. The biggest change is the thickness making the watch more wearable. It's also lighter again making it more wearable. You forgot to mention another important change...the bracelet went from 20 to 21 mm. This small change is very noticeable. It makes the watch appear broader and more masculine. My AK gets more wrist time than my Sub...that's how good it is.

    • @thegorn
      @thegorn Год назад

      Hey buddy if you get this message can you tell me - did they improve the anti-reflective coating? The new one looks clearer through the dial. The specs say the new one has AR coating but I assume that is just on the underside as Rolex tend not to put AR on the top. Did the old one not have any AR coating? Anyway let me know of your impressions on regards to reflections. Thanks.

    • @ron74555
      @ron74555 Год назад +2

      @The Gorn yes. They did add AR which made a huge impact on the new one. The dial appears much more clear - appears inky black from most angles. The difference is extremely noticeable compared to the old one. Makes the entire watch look more attractive. Also, out in natural sunlight, the dial color appears to be a darker black compared to the old one which is slight more matte in color giving it a very dark grey look compared to the new one which always looks black. I've never heard anyone speak of this - just something I observed. This coupled with the AR makes the new dial much better looking.

    • @TheSuccessEngineer
      @TheSuccessEngineer Год назад +3

      Own both and I like the older version better … more masculine and truer to its design purpose. New one is a baby sub 😂

    • @ekimandersom4478
      @ekimandersom4478 11 месяцев назад +1

      I found the previous version to wear better, less sharp edges, and much nicer looks.

    • @lewisjones9762
      @lewisjones9762 3 месяца назад

      @@ekimandersom4478 New version is by far the better looking and this being the reason Rolex changed its appearance

  • @Anonymouslyme1
    @Anonymouslyme1 2 года назад +26

    I prefer the old one with the beautiful, curvaceous and somewhat chunky case, has lots of wrist presence.

  • @drockkelly
    @drockkelly 2 года назад +16

    Love the new air king. Wear it more then my datejust, sub, or explorer 2. Its just so comfortable, and the dial is like a breath of fresh air. Hard one to take off.

  • @watchartsci
    @watchartsci Год назад +6

    Big fan of the AirKing with the Blood Hound dial. The earlier (2016) version has the same movement as the Milgauss, and the new one has the same movement as the Oyster Perpetual. I do like the bracelet and crown guard of the new version along with the cleaned up dial, but I like the Milgauss movement in an AirKing-there's a certain irony to it.

  • @georgemole9790
    @georgemole9790 8 месяцев назад +5

    I have the old one and have only seen pictures of the new one. But from what I've seen, I'm glad to have the old one.
    Putting a zero before a single-digit number for "balance" makes no sense to me. On the old model, the five had one digit because five is expressed with one digit. The fifty-five had two digits because you need two digits to express fifty-five. Form should follow function.
    Putting a zero before the five so it can balance the fifty-five is like putting three X's before "oyster" in order to balance it with "perpetual."
    The new model is sportier looking, but I think it's a notch below in terms of elegance. The white-gold numerals and rounded case of the old model make it a tiny bit dressier than the new one, although the new numerals are more legible.
    Bottom line, they're both beautiful watches, and I'd be glad to have either one or both. But given the choice, I'm glad I have the old one.

    • @lewisjones9762
      @lewisjones9762 3 месяца назад

      it looks far more balanced as to its purpose like explained in the video.

  • @TheSuccessEngineer
    @TheSuccessEngineer 2 года назад +13

    The discontinued model is the one to have. Despite the upgrades then discontinued model will retain the historical value even if it was the ugly duckling of the family.

  • @joAO-87-TugA
    @joAO-87-TugA Год назад +5

    New Air King all the way for me, definitely a future classic sleeper,
    I personally could never understand why the older version had an oyster perpetual bracelet and clasp. 🤷‍♂️

  • @sgcitizen1063
    @sgcitizen1063 2 года назад +7

    I added the new Air-King to my collection becos of the improvements. Rolex did it right this time, and the AK is on my wrist more than my GMT, Miglauss.

  • @kobateman
    @kobateman 2 года назад +8

    The new one is better with everything that's true!!!! But the old one with the individual 5 is according to the original!! And this mixture of everything like case digits makes them much more interesting than the new one! And yet I am not convinced of the new movement !!! Unfortunately, there are too many negative experiences...so the old one is the much more interesting watch for me personally

  • @krysh195
    @krysh195 2 года назад +6

    I actually think that the new air king 126655 is going to be discontinued in the next year or two. Rolex is no longer associated with the bloodhound project but they couldn't just discontinue the 116655 without "fixing" it, that wouldn't be very Rolex... Now that the air king and all of its issues are fixed Rolex can safely discontinue the 126655 and move on. Rolex has the tendency of nailing certain references to absolute perfection and that's when they discontinue it. Seadweller 116600 for example or the white oyster 114300 - these were the perfect watches and were made only for 3 years. 126600 will fallow the same path - it is perfect now.

  • @rjblue42
    @rjblue42 Год назад +4

    Just bought the new one. a truely quirky statement piece!

  • @marchris5262
    @marchris5262 3 месяца назад

    Hello.. I can't help noticing the Spaceman Figurine on your right. Would you please be kind enough to furnish me the details of where you bought the item? Can I still buy it and how much did it costs you? Thank you !!! Awesome review you gave !!!

  • @sgt0331able
    @sgt0331able Год назад +4

    I enjoy the older one due to the fact it’s an odd watch. If I would want the newer model then just get the date just.

    • @gjonno
      @gjonno Год назад +1

      Soz that’s rubbish. Visually Air King and Datejust are totally different watches. I wouldn’t buy a Datejust as just too boring, but would buy the new Air King, especially in this case

  • @regularcyclist4852
    @regularcyclist4852 Год назад +8

    Not a fan on a leading zero on a number and the dial on the new Air King is no different. It would bug me and I am glad to have the previous one.

  • @NickAlexTheo
    @NickAlexTheo 2 года назад +3

    You see my OCD immediately picked up the addition of the 0 in front of the 5 and the crown guards. But that's why we come here to watch these videos because I didn't know all the other improvements they made. Just one question. Why is that watch not similarly priced to the OP and they are asking for 7k?

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад

      With these luxury goods, pricing can often not be explained strictly based on value. E.g. look at precious metal watches and the premium you have to pay compared to stainless steel. There is often no correlation whatsoever between the actual increased cost of the materials and partly more difficult manufacturing compared to the increase in retail price.

  • @unnamedhero5111
    @unnamedhero5111 2 года назад +4

    Dear Fratello - 07:25 not 3120, but 3230 caliber is used in 2022 AK.

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад +2

      You are absolutely right! You are the hero we deserve 🥲👌

    • @unnamedhero5111
      @unnamedhero5111 2 года назад +2

      @@FratelloMagazine 😅 just another rolex maniac here :) btw still waiting in a list for AK.

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад

      @@unnamedhero5111 Hoping you'll soon have it on your wrist then! 🤞

    • @unnamedhero5111
      @unnamedhero5111 Год назад +1

      @@FratelloMagazine got call yesterday and picked up today - amazing watch, but for sure not as the first rolex (good addition to my set of 2 sub's and 2 gmt-master's).

  • @shrinikketh
    @shrinikketh 2 года назад +12

    Yet another excellent review. The enthusiasm for watches that Fratello has is refreshing, it's clear true enthusiasts are watching

  • @dude...are-you-sure
    @dude...are-you-sure Месяц назад

    Rolex always makes many subtle changes that isnt instantly noticeable. but when added together all the subtle improvements make a big overall difference.

  • @craigsylvester6320
    @craigsylvester6320 11 дней назад

    Personally I like the originality of the old one and the bloodhound connection, but I would like to see one with a dial without the 3, 6 and 9 and instead continue the minute markings ie 15, 30 and 45
    I think that would look amazing.

  • @ianandrew8030
    @ianandrew8030 Год назад +3

    Put my name down at the AD not thinking I'd get the call, what do you know I received the called mid 2022 and even got it pre price increases I personally Loved the New Air King and will never sell ❤❤

  • @thomasont
    @thomasont 2 года назад +4

    To me, the new AK is facelift / homage / tribute / heir to the discontinued Milgauss AK since the overall general design and esthethics especially its dial are based off the same design language and principle.
    🤓⌚👍

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 4 месяца назад

      Yup I agree, to me the new one is like a homage to the old one. The original 'bloodhound' design is the old one. Luckily for people like me that like the old one, I was able to purchase the old 116900 at a much lower price than the current retail price of the 126900 and that is because the grey dealer just wanted to get rid of the watch.

  • @kleinbottled79
    @kleinbottled79 Год назад +1

    Didn't realize how much I disliked the shiny numerals until I saw the new one and said 'WTF I love the Air King now.' The 05, the thinner case, none of that matters near as much as having the white 3-6-9 I reckon.

  • @thegorn
    @thegorn Год назад +2

    Watch at 1.75x speed, you'll thank me later. Also the comparison fails to mention the difference in AR coatings. I'm amazed that so many "experts" have no idea on this topic.

  • @andrepg549
    @andrepg549 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks 🙏🏻 for the review. The NEW AK for the win! I got it 2 months ago directly from my AD after waiting a short 5 months. Honestly, I couldn’t be happier! 😄

  • @Eliminator-rl9sn
    @Eliminator-rl9sn Год назад +2

    I think, the new Air King is the perfect Rolex for you if you want to wear one without it shouting at everyone: Look at me, I´m a Rolex. This ist what attracts me very much to to this time piece. So I do agree. The new one is the one to wear.

  • @MarcCoimbra
    @MarcCoimbra Месяц назад

    Managed to get one this week. It hasn't left my wrist since i bought it. Such a comfortable watch😍

  • @mitchmitchell9588
    @mitchmitchell9588 2 года назад +2

    Excellent analysis. Not sure about the conclusion. But the argument is well made. Thank you.

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад +1

      Thanks, Mitch 🙏👊 What would be your conclusion instead?

    • @mitchmitchell9588
      @mitchmitchell9588 2 года назад +1

      Assuming that one has neither, I would conclude that the new Air King is the one to have AND wear! I would not go out of my way to buy the previous model but, if one owns it, it is a keeper. I have a predisposition towards Rolex watches with green hands, so I appreciate both models and would give a nod of respect to anyone sporting one in the wild.

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад +1

      @@mitchmitchell9588 Gotcha - makes sense!

    • @mitchmitchell9588
      @mitchmitchell9588 2 года назад

      I fear my answer was clear as a puddle of mud. Regardless, I enjoyed your video and look forward to more!

  • @kamimcmmm
    @kamimcmmm 5 месяцев назад

    Picked the 2019 116655 the day after I came back from my honeymoon in Wempe, couldn’t be happier. It wears bigger than the submariner, it’s so masculine watch. Have to try the newer one though, but will keep the old one certainly.

  • @papricep6248
    @papricep6248 2 года назад +2

    The old one is also 34mm IIRC.

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад

      The old, old ones were smaller, but the 116900 (the direct predecessor to the current model) was also 40mm. You can see it in the video: There's almost no difference when it comes to size.

  • @redtop1705
    @redtop1705 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have both Airkings, and I must say the 126900 is the one I prefer, I had a submariner which I sold as I found it boring and there to many fakes around

  • @supertzar6578
    @supertzar6578 11 месяцев назад

    116900 has been equipped with a Parachrom hairspring and Paraflex anti-shock system. So no difference with newer version in terms of antimagnetic

  • @Mega-zi7ys
    @Mega-zi7ys 2 года назад +2

    They're both have an equally messy dial

  • @jeremydahm2124
    @jeremydahm2124 Год назад

    Improved. The dial is a bit too broad as with the OP41s. There is a balance mistake there. On wrist these and the OPs look, or wear like a 42. Seldom do I see an op41 on someone and think that was a better choice than the 36.

  • @Dugger1991
    @Dugger1991 2 года назад +2

    I believe this watch 2022 will be discontinued also. The new model is very cool. 2 years from now it will be scarce.

  • @deelmkrbmw
    @deelmkrbmw 2 года назад +4

    I'm very pleased with my 2021 Air King but I must say this watch was my 3rd choice but once I got the call I had to jump at the chance to finally own a Rolex.

  • @Dread_Pirate62
    @Dread_Pirate62 7 месяцев назад +1

    What do I think of the Air King? I just ordered one.

  • @gjonno
    @gjonno 5 месяцев назад

    New one to have and to wear!!!

  • @vonbon954
    @vonbon954 2 года назад +2

    The received wisdom that the dial was modelled after the instrument cluster in the Bloodhound speed record atrempt car, is completely misdirected.
    The 116900 and 126900 reference dials are referencing something with a much deeper history, an aviation history.
    In short, the two references in question are quite simply flieger style watches. Flieger watches and aviation go back together to the dawn of the wrist watch industry, and the dawn of aviation itself.
    The Air King is now Rolex's flieger.
    That makes sence for a watch called the Air King.

  • @PabloTBrave
    @PabloTBrave 6 месяцев назад

    Apart from swapping the case ( which was a mistake imo) I much prefer the new one over to 2016 version , neither are anything like the original whuch was more like an OP. The 2016 is thixker nkt because of the movement its because of iron core anti magnetic sheilding .

  • @michaelhayward107
    @michaelhayward107 2 месяца назад

    Even the Rolex site literature states that the older Air-King reference 116900 uses an Oscillator Paramagnetic blue Parachrom hairspring. So your statement is untrue. ☠

  • @willielarsson9651
    @willielarsson9651 8 месяцев назад

    Superb review , im sold

  • @wilcoschepenable
    @wilcoschepenable 10 месяцев назад

    7000 euro's? Where to find?

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot 5 месяцев назад

    Love The New One...Stealth Wealth..

  • @ousi00
    @ousi00 Год назад +2

    I would say basing on the ill-fated Bloodhound LCR doesn't do any good to the marketing of the 2016 Air King.
    I would definitely consider the Air King if they added full lume on the 369 and the indices, and the non 369 numerals to be indicate the hours instead of minutes. It would be better IMO :)

  • @gjonno
    @gjonno 5 месяцев назад

    Old one did nothing for me. New one did and I bought it.
    Each one to their own. If we all liked the same thing it would be a boring world.

  • @petterlindberg9479
    @petterlindberg9479 2 года назад +1

    Great content as usual

  • @piotrszmidel
    @piotrszmidel 2 года назад +3

    Someone who left 5 on the old dial should leave watch designing forever😜

  • @federiconasute3150
    @federiconasute3150 Год назад

    New one is the one to use and have

  • @diegom.8773
    @diegom.8773 Год назад +1

    All the way … the new one

  • @anthonywong2308
    @anthonywong2308 9 месяцев назад

    Is just like bank note collector which they are looking and keeping those faulty bank notes. So will go to 116900 and because it tied with stories of bloodhound. 6 years production means more exclusive ?

    • @lettuce1305
      @lettuce1305 4 месяца назад

      I agree, if the 126900 has a longer or even the same length of production as the 116900, I think in the very long run the 116900 would prove to be more collectible as it's already seen as a 'mistake' and definitely one of the quirkiest Rolex ever made.

  • @ryanelectra225
    @ryanelectra225 2 года назад +3

    The new one definitely improved. I sold the old and bought the new.

    • @joAO-87-TugA
      @joAO-87-TugA Год назад

      I did the same, and honestly so happy I made that choice. Out with the old and in with the new.

    • @ekimandersom4478
      @ekimandersom4478 11 месяцев назад +1

      Big mistake

  • @soidog659
    @soidog659 11 дней назад

    The old one is a collectors piece the new one is just another new watch that will have no value. Or maybe not?

  • @ShootersOnGo
    @ShootersOnGo 5 месяцев назад

    literally just purchase a new one yesterday

  • @pth8888
    @pth8888 2 года назад +2

    I prefer the new Air King. I would buy and wear it if I have the chance to purchase one.

  • @doctorbah
    @doctorbah 3 месяца назад

    Great analysis, thank you!

  • @JorgeBordam1
    @JorgeBordam1 Год назад

    No wrist shots? Ok...

  • @viper-gamingcorporation1717
    @viper-gamingcorporation1717 Год назад

    Man was still speaking soo slow even in 2x

  • @preezy1981
    @preezy1981 Год назад

    Dude had no idea how to open the clasp lolololl🤡🎈🎈🎈

  • @EP-jj1fu
    @EP-jj1fu 6 месяцев назад

    Too many 5’s.

  • @garfunkeldave
    @garfunkeldave Год назад

    Crown guards 🤢 some people just wanna be wrapped in cotton wool

  • @steve8510
    @steve8510 7 месяцев назад

    New by a mile

  • @Constantlywatching
    @Constantlywatching 2 года назад +3

    126900 is THE Air KING 👑

  • @JustAboutTime
    @JustAboutTime 2 года назад +1

    2016 edition is the proper one .. for anyone who’s brain hasn’t been supplanted by a cauliflower.

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад +1

      Apparently, my (Timo) brain was supplanted by a cauliflower. I have vegan thoughts. Nice.

  • @19NJS71
    @19NJS71 Год назад

    Sorry that is quite stupid. a Rolex airking will never be a collectible watch, neither old nor new. we are talking minor differences between the 2 in price.but the new is far better

  • @ROLFCOPTERZZ
    @ROLFCOPTERZZ 2 года назад

    Some people just don't get the purpose of the watch. This is not meant to be a elegant design piece its intended for those people that reach high-speed and want decreased read times. At mach3 you've already travelled over 3000km in a second of read time. If you fly a jet (airking) or your attempting to break land speed records (bloodhound) or generally do fast motorsports like racing this is a good watch for you. After all a watch is meant to be read and it is a instrument.

  • @HIOP0
    @HIOP0 2 года назад +3

    WHAT'S WITH THIS "DEBUTED" NONSENSE...IT IS PRONOUNCED "DEBUED" IN PHOENETIC TERMS.

    • @FratelloMagazine
      @FratelloMagazine  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for pointing that out. We're not native speakers, so stuff like that happens every now and then.

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 2 года назад

      @@FratelloMagazine Ok, no worries.

    • @robertkwan186
      @robertkwan186 Год назад +2

      What’s with this “PHOENETIC” nonsense… it is spelt “PHONETIC” in the English language 😂😂😂

    • @HIOP0
      @HIOP0 Год назад

      @@robertkwan186 Hey little bib... perhaps your "mother" was a Psittacus erithacus, grey, both in colour and personality. I command you to look up the above and further command you to respond, this next post from you better be of a much improved standard or you will be held back a year... not for the first time... little bib... the only 27 year old still in school. Hope that helps little bib.