Gravy Train Gets Derailed | Customer Supplied Parts Ford 5.4
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- Опубликовано: 6 ноя 2021
- This job ended up turning into the opposite of what I expected and it cost me more than I made. Sometimes this is the way, I did what I had to do to get through it.
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Love this, imagine every time you bring your vehicle in for repairs. Then they say here's the work we've done watch the video. No scam, no cheating you out of money and also showing you it was worth it taking it to a pro. I've watched many of your videos/ uploads, awesome.
I bet you there is a company out there making a system that will do something similar to this for all mechanic fields.
I wish
watch it live while they wait in the waiting room lol
I get the vidro visual inspection of my car underside sent to me with the percentage wear on brakes and tires. Plus exhaust checked over. Good to see but yes I'd love to see a video of a full service/repair of my Car too. I'm sure it will come one day.
@@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling Not much prob with Exhaust systems these days .All stainless steel, outlast the vehicle , unless off roaded over boulders and tree stumps
"i don't have to, but I'm going to polish the terminals." That's not being nice, that's being a REAL mechanic!
He didn't mention it, but he also reached around and polished the radio knobs.
3R, you represent a new breed of repair technician; keep it real
I'm a Master plumber and I know nothing about auto repair, but I do enjoy watching other professionals at their craft.
Being so pressed for time, I couldn't do the job without making a mistake and getting severely stressed out. Kudos to you Ray! 👍
You've broke the internet getting them all out without breaking ...impact gun was genius 👏 💪👍
It's common knowledge. It's better to do it when it's hot. These plugs didn't have and carbon for them to get suck and break.
@@duckwacker8720 You beat me to it. If the engine is hot it does aid in the removal. But still, he's the first I"ve seen remove all 8 without breaking.
One could say using the impact wrench was… impactful.
@@billmonroe8826 they're low mile plugs with no carbon to lock them in. He didn't lube where they actually break.
There is an age old question of what to do with a drunken sailor.
Ford's answer is to hire them to design engine heads.
I loved the video as a former owner of a 08 F150 with the 5.4 motor. Hard to believe anyone could expect a “ gravy train” after looking under the hood. Ford lost a class action suit over the spark plug replacement issues.
Glad that 05 still offered the 4.6 2v when dad got his. Dodged a bullet with these plugs and cam phasers. Still going with over 300k.
Also hard to believe those are 40k plugs. Figure the customer would know what it needs after having them done before (and just heard Ray’s explanation). There are a lot of one piece plug options now.
Rainman I do believe you must be the Best Tech. I have ever witnessed in my 73 years
Imagine a world where you take your car to the shop knowing you're going to get an accurate diagnosis and transparency too. I love this channel and I tune in every chance I get. Keep up the great work Ray!
This video has everything! A perfect 8/8 on 5.4L 3 valve spark plugs, double jointed needle nose pliers, a new tool and tool truck shenanigans, an appearance by Petuh, some do-doo-doo action, wobbly bits, Ray going the extra mile and not ending up at Technician Rage Level 6🤩 Bravo!!!
missing the pouring action
And an over 50 min vid.
I would have seen Triton on the engine and passed on it. These are just junk and the reason I stopped buying Ford Pickups. I never looked back. The only thing worse than these were their diesels and the reason my father and brother stopped buying Ford Pickup Super Duty's.
@@dannysdailys hmm…. Mine went 400,000 km and admittedly I wasn’t very nice to the poor girl. Could have definitely gone farther with some decent maintenance.
Ray has so many special tools that come in so handy, it puzzles me that he doesn't have the little tube type extension that allows you to lower the plug and screw it into place without having to drop it in place. think I saw on on Amazon for about $12
The only guy on YT i can listen to a battery operated tool go brrrrrtz at 4 am, and go Doooo doooo dooooooo when the phone rings. whilst listening and watching you mechanic. i wanted to be one when i was young, but then i found i had very poor retention and organization skills, so i gave up on it i do enjoy all your vids tho :)
These videos have me narrating all my jobs, now.
Nice job. I agree with those old plugs looking older. Everyone should always ask for the old parts back as proof the new parts are installed. Now both the owner and the mechanic can both sleep easy knowing the job was done right.
100% Plugs were not replaced prior to this time ... well paper replaced only
It used to be and still should be standard practice to give the customer their old parts.
I agree with you and I tell everyone always ask for old parts and even put a mark on the part you are having replaced but don't tell anybody then you will know for sure
Problem I am aware of is if you ask for old parts back many times foreman will get mechanic to go to the scrap bin and get whatever filters, plugs etc that they can reach and give them to the customer. Customer does not have the knowledge to know that the parts were NOT fitted to his/her car. Reputable shops don't do that but then as with the non-replacement of these spark plugs, there are a good percentage of shops that do that. I am a retired mechanic in Land Down Under and in every case, without exception, the people I now help are there with me, helping me with whatever needs to be done to their car, mower or whatever. Totally eliminates the chance of me being accused of not having done something. Customer also learns how to better look after their car/mower/etc.
@@bobhudson6659 I agree with you and I tell people to put some kind of mark on the part that on their car then they will know if the old part is theirs I always lay the parts I remove on my work table until the customer picks up their car if they want the parts I've still got them
First time I’ve ever seen all of them come out intact, very impressive.
It's a toss-up there's no rhyme or reason. You either have a good day or you're extracting.
On the 5.4 3Vs I've always run a can of SeaFoam into the brake booster when hot, let it sit for 30 minutes then run it like I stole it until the white freighttrain smoke disapates to clear the carbon deposits on the plugs. Then the plugs all come out no problem.
@@TheBrookian Use an impact driver. It "rips" them loose before they can think about breaking!
@@TheBrookian yea I use pretty much the same method, pull them out roasting hot while cussing the Ford Engineers who thought this design was a good idea.
hey.. you spoiled it, thanks!
In the mid 70’s, dad had a 73 Chrysler Newport with a 400. The left rear spark plug was a bear to get because of the manifold, exhaust pipe, power steering gearbox, & frame. I got it from the bottom using a 13/16”spark plug socket with the hex on top, a 13/16” deep double offset wrench, a 13/16” shallow double offset wrench, & a 13/16” combination wrench.
When going to college in Havre I was working at a gas station, a guy came in with the almost identical car to dad’s. It was running a little rough, so after I got done filling it up, (you guys that are wondering, we did not have self service or no lead) I mentioned that he needed a tuneup, most probably spark plugs & wires. He said that he had just had the spark plugs changed about 5,000 miles ago. I told him about dad’s car, he told the station owner that I was going to change his spark plugs next Saturday morning. Being as I drove it in, I drove it into the hoist bay. 2 of my coworkers asked me why I was tying up the hoist bay to change spark plugs. I told them that you can’t do the left rear from the top. The owner came by to pick up his car at 9:30, wanted to know why I was not done. I was working on the hard plug, he was there when I finally got it out. There was no center electrode left. The ground was 1/2 gone. The threads were full of carbon. This car had 65,000 miles on the original spark plug in the left rear hole. The last 4 spark plug changes the mechanics had only changed the 7 easy plugs. (You guys that don’t know, 10,000 to 15,000 miles was a tuneup, at that time)
When I got done with the plugs & wires, he took it out for a test drive. When he came back he was so pleased that he could get over 70 mph again that he gave me a $20 & $10 bills. ( regular gas was $.32, premium was $.36, low lead was $.40 or 40 cents a gallon)
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
NE Montana. Around Scobey? Yep, that Chysler was a bear but many were back then. The old Chevy Monza, ford pickups that had air conditioning as well. Oh, the good ol days!!!
@@billmonroe8826 West of Scobey 50 miles, Opheim the end of the Great Northern spur line.
50 miles north of Glasgow.
I worked for Solberg’s, the GM dealership of Scobey.
Years before it was the IHC dealership, & Steiger dealership.
@@billmonroe8826 My brother had a 74 LTD with AC, the BIG alternator, 351 W I think, it had 18mm tapered seat spark plugs. You broke them loose with a 16” ratchet, drove them in & out with an air ratchet, 2 ball u-joints, a 2” extension, 2 3” extensions, a 4” & a 6” extension.
I installed the Motorola electric ignition, so that I did not have to change points, condensers and set timing. A small engine mechanic showed me a neat trick of putting the condenser on the coil negative terminal like a Kohler motor.
Hello from north east Montana.
10 miles from the Canadian border.
115 from the North Dakota border.
@@darrelfuhrman8217 I remember the area. Over 40 yrs ago on wheat harvest. Fresh out of high school. Steigers were big up there back then. I remember one name up there that helped us out at the time. John Rustabauchi(SP). Always wondered if he still lived there. Nice family.
I heard that punching a hole in the tunnel was the way to get to that plug. Rubber grommet to make it whole, perhaps with a sealant. Carpet over it and all is well for now and evermore.
i love how weird/quirky he is lol. And its oddly satisfying watching him dismantle things with funny words involved
Ray, no hurry your customer is running late he stopped by the grocery store to buy some hamburger meat and tomatoes and lettuce and some potatoes. He then will bring it to the diner and have lunch. He may have to return to the store for the supplies to make him a pie for some dessert. Don't you just love customers who bring their own parts. How dare somebody make an extra dollar on me, because I am special and smarter than they are. Great job by the way, best tech I have seen in a long time.
You are in the upper 1% of mechanics! Thank you.
Takes impact driver to spark plugs that tend to break, and extracts all eight intact!!!! That is the definition of a professional! Nice job.
That's the trick with these. Use the gun and they all come out good. Done a bunch. Hated them until my buddy told me the trick
One of the techs was screwing around Friday and took my 1/2 impact making me think he was going to take plugs out with it. I was like WHAT ARE YOU DOING! Glad he was joking.
Pure luck. These stupid plugs either break or they don't.
Great job Ray on an UNPRECEDENTEDLY HARD JOB
For future reference of anyone doing these plugs, putting some very light antiseize on the lower metal shafts of the plugs where they shear off is highly recommended, Ford actually sells a lubricant kit just for these plugs.
Instead of just engineering them correctly. They choose to make even more money from their incompetence.
You actually don't even need to do that, there's a company that made an updated version of the spark plug so it's a single piece. They wear faster than the motocraft and they actually cost more but, it's that piece of mind.
Respect for acknowledging the "bad apples" out there; I will admit it was a bit off-putting to hear your naievity in regards to shady practice. My first experience with a mechanic at 16 years old soured me to the trade and I've been doing all of my own maintenance from that time on with the exception of exhaust, tires and A/C work. If more folks would operate like you I'd have no hesitation to pay a premium to have my second most valuable possession serviced by a professional - but my experience has been that work I've performed - even when screwing it up - is cheaper and better; albeit losing on the time side. Keep it up; a sign of true intelligence and understanding is the ability to admit when things aren't right, regroup / reassess, and use logic to re-percieve a situation when new datum presents itself - which you seem to have done here. Kudos!
same here dude.. i do everything possible on my own. started with intimidation of pulling an upper intake to do valve covers on a 302 in a crownvic. shop botched that, went and got new valve covers and ran them across town on a bicycle, still leaked.. got me for $200.. then i had to go back in there and take the plunge. i knew with 2 sets of gaskets, new valve cover pans and 2 attempts, they were not doing it. i ate the $200 but got something far more valuable. confidence in my ability, never turned a wrench before that i think. i've got no limits myself shy of alignment and i've even done that a time or 2 in a pinch with a couple blocks, a tape and a buddy.
some of the people that call themselves mechanics.. i don't want them touching my stuff. this guy i would trust, there are some good ones out there but i don't want to take that chance with shop time expenses or making them correct it (i'm sure some would half ass it then). they say if you want something done right, do it yourself. they're not wrong on that friend. parts stores are even getting bad. day before yesterday i came in with a battery off my wife's car and they wanted to sell me a 96r rated at the same rating as my group size 48 i had. of course they only had the $200 battery in 96r. done that all 3 parts stores i went to.. got some b/s about wrong cranking amps killing the alternator. the batteries were rated the same and one was 1/2 the price, less warranty though. that wrong battery has been in there since before we got it. went yesterday and dealt with people i know, they sold me what i wanted rather than what they said it called for. total fricken joke at these parts counters.. some are good there as well but you gotta find them. don't confuse talk for knowledge either, that's a trap too people fall into when buying parts..
Nice👍. I know a lot of us here feel exactly the same way. It's hard to have somebody work on your vehicle and screw it up but I was very sick and hurt from accident a while back and incapacitated and let a local shop work on my car and 2 new fuel pumps and two body control modules replaced and towed 3 times off road when a clogged fuel filter was the problem is the reason I do all my own work no matter how long it takes me. 👍🇺🇸
Naivety
@@Usmanthemecano -- Mechanic *and* speller. Give this guy a gold star.
Same here, I've not been ripped off by a mechanic but I do try to do all my own work, I've rebuilt my own transfer case diagnosed and fixed my own A/C system did numerous plugs, coils, brakes and now I'm fixing to start a rebuild of the front of my jeep
I paid for a set of plugs on an Impala. They changed the front 3 but not the 3 on the back of the engine against the firewall. Huge profit per hour for the tech and the garage. Garage owner lied and said tech had been fired for similar conduct...but tech was still there a year later. Unfortunately no one can be trusted.
Happened to me to on my wife's 09 Impala. Several years back I had a shop replace the plugs. A few months back I replaced them and I noticed the electrodes on the rear plugs were almost worn all the way through. That pretty much confirmed that shop didn't replace them. The rear plugs aren't really that hard to get to.
Regarding not being able to see what you're working on: Our high school auto shop teacher had a favorite phrase. "Find the hole with your finger first." Teen boys really remember that lesson...
Been recently watching your vids.36 yrs self employed tech. You're a great tech with a great attitude. Keep up the good work and Don't let peanut gallery get to you.
I crack up laughing every time the phone rings and Ray goes doo dee dooo🤣🤣
good ringtone
I just love the "THEY like to do maintenance on their engine" so they ask me to replace parts
Well is seems they came to the right man for the job. :D Well done
Bit like the guys that say they restored their classic motorcycles.
Then tell you who did the engine, wheels and the paint.
Because these engines are notorious for the broken spark plug, that results in the vehicle being disabled and needing someone to remove the cylinder head to get the broken plug out. He would then need to figure how how to get his truck towed and set an appt. That's 100% why he brought it in.
@@who-gives-a-toss_Bear my brother in law tried to tell me he built his new cafe racer I was like dood if u didn't turn the wrenches you didn't build anything!
Ray, you are a great mechanic with producing great videos.
I've learned so much more from you then any of the years at catering college!
Thank you
Your better off in catering...cars can be mind blowing..at least you can eat and say great job or fill the bin up and start again..stinking of grease oil and fuel ain't nice..
@@kennethgardner3310 but all jobs are valid. I can change my own spark plugs but this engine would make me feel overwhelmed a bit.
Looking in the engine bay of this truck really makes me appreciate how much space I had in my '79 F-250.
Keep your F-250 as long as you possibly can!
Only problem was where to put the stepladder to climb over the fender to stand beside the engine.
Back when you could reach everything with 3 different crescent wrench sizes. LOL Small Medium and Big brotha..
My thinking was similar to my 87 F250. I really appreciate not needing a bi-directional scan tool to replace a window motor, all 8 fuel injectors and fuel pump cost less than one injector of the power stroke variety.
This is the first time watching your channel and I gotta say you are one hell of a mechanic. I'd let you work on my truck anytime. Great job and great video. Keep up the good work.
Love your approach to problem solving and your humor. Keep up the great work!
Your vids are always good. It's always welcome to see a different approach to what I practice or have learned along the way
Ray, as a commercial Air Conditioning Mechanic for over 40 years I only once saw another Mechanic cheat a customer by billing a for a part/repair/replacement that was too difficult to get to. Most guys were very honest and when I saw a particular job that needed extensive welding to replace the part, and it was clear that it had never been removed my biggest dilemma was if I should let my office know what had happened. I resolved to talk to the mechanic in question and never told the front office. I wrote the job up as a failed replacement part and was able to hide the problem, but my trust in that guy took a long time to recover.
I love your attitude and keep up the good work. I know that it can get very frustrating sometimes, but the reward of knowing that you are the good guy will ultimately pay you back. I sleep very well at night knowing that I was competent and honest, and my customers always asked for me to be their mechanic when they called for service.
Good job.
Years ago, I had a neighborhood mechanic shop charge $500 me to fix a part that I found out later was never even touched. I thought they were as honest as they come at the time. They have since sold out to another shop, so can't really do anything today. And just last summer I had a local AC repairman come out to change my air conditioners capacitor and charge me $397 of which half was the charge for coming out on a weekend....so he basically charged me $200 for the capacitor which I saw on line priced for a fraction of that. Honest mechanics like Ray are a rare bird.
Am I misunderstanding your comment, or did you state that you lied on the paperwork to aid and abet a dishonest mechanic?
PRO TIP: Use a length of 3/8 fuel line hose to install the new plugs that way they don't get damaged from dropping the plugs into the hole. You can even twist the hose to start the threading.
Or fix you spark plug socket so that the rubber retainer holds the plug in when installing. This will also help with removal. The plug should come right out with the socket instead of using the needle nose.
@@scottdowler8316 I have one of those and they suck because it holds the plug too tight and disconnects the extension when u pull out after install.
@@matthewboylez34 Yes I am familiar with that problem. The extension I use does not have a little ball and actually has a pin and you need to use a small screwdriver to remove the socket. That prevents the socket from coming off. Forgot about that issue.
@@scottdowler8316 That’s probably a snap-on feature. I only stick with the mid grade craftsman lol
@@scottdowler8316 Only problem with rubber insert in spark plug socket is that if the spark plug tool becomes slightly angled because of the torque being applied to it to remove the spark plug, the rubber in the tool can deflect the spark plug porcelain sideways and result is cracked porcelain - ask me how I know. Not a problem if you are replacing plugs but a problem if you are just checking and intend to re-use old plugs. Consequently, recommend "The Leafman Prophecies" comment to use fuel hose to remove/reinstall plugs once they are free of threads. The other item I have in my toolbox is magnetic spark plug sockets. Great for removing plugs - they have no rubber inserts. Bob Hudson. Retired mechanic. Land Down Under
Experts will always say " I don't know" if they do not know. No BS no ifs ands or buts. This guy has a scientific mind.
Glad to see the great work ethics and quality standards.
The torque wrench click doesn't sound real anymore! Thanks Ray!
Love their tools!
“If it ain’t red, it stays in the shed”
Never mind he used Ridgid and Snap on tools on the same job.
Great job as usual Ray. You have a great delivery and communicate well with your viewers/subscribers. You're an asset to the RUclips community as well as your profession. Thank you for being a quality mechanic and the time and effort you invest in your videos.
Interesting story for my end of day Ray. Thanks for your dedication to being the good guy and informing the world on the way.
I’m glad to see an honest mechanic because they are so far and in between that’s why I try to do all my own work
An honest, skilled, automotive technician. Very refreshing. Good process and attention to detail. Thanx!
You are a huge asset to your shop and to your customers!
I enjoy your vernacular description of your tools IE wobbly bits and your star track sounds good stuff Ray.
The only mechanic that sets their customers clock correctly after 😍😌
I miss one occasion 😉
I had one of those damn engines in a f150 I had. The 1st place I took it really messed with me. I ended up taking it to some one that not only fixed the problem the first place caused but git the plugs out with out breaking any. They saved me 3 grand. Right before Christmas. I left them a $100.00 bucks for each of the mechanics they had and tried to leave the owner a tip to. He wouldn't take it, but made sure the guy's knew it was from me. They get all my difficult work now even thought it's a 90 mile trip for me. Oh, and I don't have that damn ford anymore.
You should also get them the easy work, instead of only giving them the difficult.
@@erik_dk842 I would except the car I have now is a chevy not a ford. So far this dealership hasn't messed with me. I get free oil changes and tire rotations. I do need a tranny service done soon and the dealer said it would be $300+ for it. Maybe I'll call and see what they charge.
Glad to see an honest mechanic out there. I usually do my own work but can't do every thing on these newer vehicles Keep up the good work.
Great video Ray.I love watching an honest pro doing a great job.
Rainman, I commend you young man on your work ethics. My dad was a solepropritor mechanic and we bought the business from him in 1981. Many shadey machanic jobs have come to us in these 40 yrs. It's very sad to know how heartless these people can be. God bless and keep up the good work.
so many shady mechanics around anymore it's insane ,, I am a self taught mechanic that fixes everything from bicycles to trucks ,,i started when i was 10 fixing bicycles and by the time i was 14 i was working on lawnmowers ,,now at 47 i have a mobile work shop and a tool truck with enough equipment to change an engine in a peterbilt
in my spare time i like watching videos on you tube ,,and i have learned a lot from various mechanics on here
When I was a service writer for a Ford store, the drivability technician always used an impact wrench to remove the plugs on the Tritons, with usually positive results. Gotta say I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get to see a broken plug extraction! Why should you be so lucky? Just kidding!;-) Thanks for sharing!
I'm sure Ray doesn't share your disappointment. That job's a nightmare.
I sold my excellent CItroen 2 litre hdi Exclusive for a low price ( to a taxi man). Was horrified when he said it was good to have leather seats as they were easy to clean after drunken throw ups. At 90,000 miles I was considering changing the injectors.
Having read horror stories of damaged heads caused by butchering seized injectors and the anti diesel political movement I went for a Skoda on lease scheme. There was an advert for a company promising to be able to remove seized injectors with their own design 80 ton hydraulic pressure machine. A ring of carbon would have built up around the injector within the combustion chamber so I have doubts as to its effectiveness.
Some people don't seem to understand that the service writer as the translator between the customer and the technician will make or break a shop whether it's cars, washing machines or computers. Otherwise just toss the clipboard at the customer and hope for the best. I have had that happen to me and some times it was a good thing that it did. In my job I'm lucky if a single word is spelled closely enough to make any sense at all. I usually have to call the customer myself and literally ask them what they really brought it in for. About half the time the problem is not even caused by what they brought me but the diag fee still applies when I fix it over the phone.
@@courier11sec Well he did say he was joking...
😂
I just started watching your channel and I have to say you're a true professional. I like the way you go the extra mile. It's hard to find a mechanic like yourself 💯🇺🇸👍. I'll be watching all your videos from now on.
got to love the all knowing client bringing their own stuff. I feel for ya
The impact is how we took them out at dealer....the vibration helps get plug out hole most of the time!!!! Good job, I appreciate a good tech who is honest!!! At times I think I miss turning wrenches but guess I like the retired life now :)
We still hate to see these 5.4 3v motors come in at the dealership.
@@117aparkey they'll self destruct shortly.
"That's the miracle of good high quality lubricant, it really speeds up the process and makes everything more enjoyable" -Thats what she said
“I’m gettin’ lube everywhere.” -Also, what she said.
@@coasmechteranic indeed
I found that, in many instances, neither party wanted to speed up the process, since prolonging it was more enjoyable than hurrying. How much time does the book give ya for that procedure, anyway?
Especially when mating male plugs into female receptacles.
That and the "money shot" combined with "looks like you guys need a towel" had me cracking up for five minutes after the fact.
I'm a retired mechanic I love your work you do a great job and you're honest keep up the good work
I love this kinda stuff. I can watch for hours. Learned a few things to. Keep up the good work brother. Your buddy James.
Hi Ray,
You will pay for that impact sooner than you know, because you are the guy who is willing to go buy a tool to make sure the job is done right.
Thanks for sharing, very satisfying watching you work.
And petroleum jelly is a technicians best friend.
Kind regards,
South Africa
Presumably, the vaseline is so the customer's butt doesn't hurt too much after he gets raped again?
@@twatmunro I was going to infer same thing techs make customers ass so sorry lol
Great job mate! we need more technicians like yourself..
Loved it. Learned something too and that's a plus. G'day from down under. Sydney Australia.
Congratulations to you, being a automotive technician type of guy from an earlier generation. Working in the 1970's and 80's in Australia I enjoy your videos. Your content and humour is on a wavelength that strikes a key. "Click" torque wrench setting.
Thought you were on the gravy train, but you were actually on the struggle bus.
30:14 That's what she said! Great video, once again! Always nice to see someone taking pride in their work.
Thank you for your video's. they prove that a auto mechanic is a true craftsman. Also helps understand why costs are what they are. Great Diagnositics.
You keep showing me tools I need to add to my toolbox. And why I need them!👍🤣
If you apply anti-seize to threads then you have to say "CLICK!" sooner and much louder to meet factory spec.
A lot of guys miss that one on the ASE test.
Sooner or louder? The fuck you talking about.
U def dont need n usually shouldn't honestly use anti seize on any spark plugs that have a shiny metal surface. Theyre not actually meant to have it. The gasket seats at certain ft lbs n ur almost always goong to be tightening beyond that with basically a lubricant added to the threads.
It is possible to cinch to seated n then a qtr turn with nothing is all u need.
With anit seize u will be easily a full turn beyond that before u feel the same resistance.
Its just a setup for failure.
And although plugs are designed for 100k nowadays easy. 50k is a much better number to do em n u usually wont run into any issues.
A side note. If u have a Subaru cylinders 3 n 4 almost always get a little oil from the spark plug gasket that will almost always leak at some point. You can still run em no problems at all, once u have a rough idle u know it got the other side of the plug and is starting to buld up but that takes a solid 50k miles. Point is, makes removing those plugs nice n easy.
I gotta say, i changed my plugs on my car, it has a 104k miles and they were original (i went to the dealer just because they're so many fakes out there n i want made in japan ngk's) n they're gapped properly. On some plugs you cant even check the gap, like the stock plugs on a 2.5l Subaru engine. They have not only, a tiny point on the end of the plug, they also have a tiny point the sticks down from the top metal piece, so not just the flat l shape metal, at then end of that is another little tiny piece of metal with a tiny tip on that. You will destroy the plug uf try to regap them, esp with crude cheap typical tools used. They may still work but they will not be running optimal.
Anyway, i removed the plugs feom my vehicle n they weren't to bad. Id rather see more black or even oil on them (all oil generally means is a simple valve gasket) as opposed to bone dry, super white meaning its running lean and hot af. That is ways worse for ur internal parts thats a fact.
Also a vehicle ages, it will consume some oil, it will potentially idle a little bit more rough, it will not run at 100%.
So know the expectations u have for used, cannot be the same as ur expectations for new ya know. U will make sacrifices but you'll know if someone took care of something or not.
Tbh, there's so many tricks out there, n9 mechanic can look at a car (idc if they a 10k scan tool n 50 years in the business) n tell you within a half hour if its a 100 percent or not.
Who is torquing those plugs?????
I broke #1and 4 when i changed mine, but.. that lile extractor got them right out!
I was wondering if anyone was going to mention the Lisle tool
Great job, professional all the way. The topper was the cleaning of the battery posts at the end, a true sign of quality workmanship.
Hey Ray....I always enjoy your videos and I now have a set of long reach circular pliers on the way. We have always changed our own spark plugs but lately have found it necessary to bring it to the mechanic for necessary time restraints or to have it done correctly. I am so glad that you do it right to show us how to do it.
The good ol "money shot" 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂agreed
8 for 8! Impressive, Ray. I'm sitting here seriously happy they all came out intact.
Glad to see all of the spark plugs came out in 1 peice nice work @Rainman Ray's Repairs
I’m going back and watching the videos before I knew about the channel. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, you are an awesome technician. You understand how the leed tech sets the mood and the pace of the shop.
I did almost all of my own maintenance, until was introduced to that engine. I was very thankful that because I learned that one of the mechanics in my transmission shop discovered he could make more money by not doing the more complicated jobs. Career advice is don't cheat because you'll get caught. Further more, don't cut corners when you're working on your bosses vehicle's.
I think it’s just Fords. I still do all my own work but I will never own a Ford again. At least not a Ford manufactured between 1990 - 2012. Ford engineers didn’t care about the people who had to work in that mess of lines and wires. Toyotas and Nissans of that generation are so much easier than Ford to repair in my limited experience opinion.
I just have to say, watching you do a job, you are one excellent mechanic, you go above and beyond the job. Keep up the good work.
I've watched several of your videos and I've learned quite a bit more than I have learned from my mechanical days working on foreign and domestic vehicles. I remember my father teaching me how to unfreeze motors by lifting them up on the lift and then blowing hot air from the hanging heater in the garage then installing heaters on the engines so they could plug them in during the evening so they would not freeze up again in Montana. I was taught to always do the work correctly and do right by the owners. You bring back memories of my father who taught me to love working on vehicles. I'd trust you with any of my vehicles.
I love your videos.
Your vids make for awesome drinking games.
Every time your phone rings we take a drink also every time you drop somthing and say gravity we take a drink.
We really appreciate your hard informative work keeping us entertained.
MAN THESE VIDEOS ARE ADDICTIVE.
A very detailed and informative video. Ive heard lotsa nightmare scenarios with this service but seeing how its done is always good. That long drive to get your new tool paid for itself in seconds...always great to see the right tool for the right job.
Keep up the great work and videos Ray.
I've been wrenching for over 5 decades and I fully agreed with your *careful* use of impact on the unique situ with those plugs and your use & noting of applying anti-seize to the threads, and how it affects torque readings. Pro job in many aspects, my man.
Even after working on vehicles all day I still enjoy watching your videos, and I often come away learning something new, or how to do something more efficiently. Now I know to adjust my torque values 20% when using a lubricant.
Cool video, I've found that a simple telescopic magnet works well at getting those plugs out too.
The reason why you use an impact to remove these particular plugs is because you get a hammering effect and a vibration effect which breaks free any seizing that may have accumulated. Never attempt to take these plugs out with a ratchet. Great video though man I really like your style
can't you use the rubber mallet on the socket wrench? LOL just kidding..
Nahh ray just wanted a new man tool. 🤣 and maybe wanted to go to his bank and spend he's hard earned cash 👍🏿
Easy trick to getting the out I've never broke one yet.
I broke one spark plug on my 06 f150 with the ratchet. I had purchased the lisle before hand and worked like a charm.
I guess I have been very lucky not breaking these plugs. Done hundreds of them and only used hand ratchet. Makes me mad that other mechanics didn't even try to replace them, for they are the original plugs.
Your attention to detail is second to none. I have a Mercedes GLC250D 4MATIC and will only have it Serviced and maintained by Mercedes but I can tell you now without hesitation that if I lived in Florida I'd insist that you did all my Service and repairs. I have been ripped off before, royally ripped off so very wary. One guy said my head was warped and needed skimmed, paid. Then he said the bottom bit needed skimmed too, more money. Then after it wasn't quite right and needed more fine. It was an older Car I refused to pay anymore and just left my Car. I was just out of fight. My Vauxhall Astra needed new brake pads every 6 months and I am not a heavy braker. I came to the conclusion that either he was using substandard parts or just putting in part worn brake pads as I was a cash cow. After buying the Mercedes GLC250D 4MATIC I will only go to Mercedes. My last Service last week cost me nothing above the Service charge. No recommendations, no, you must replace this. It was good to go. I just wish I had someone like you local who I could trust. Alas no, apart from the Dealer. So do I pay extra, probably, but I get Mercedes parts fitted so I'm happy. It is a pity like you say that the scam artists give such a bad name to the industry as a whole. Thank you for the video, really enjoyed it as I enjoy all your videos.
Good stuff I’m using these videos as a tutoring for my hobby which will be fixing my parents and my own car, keep up the good work I’m learning a lot of stuff
I've always used a impact to remove spark plugs never had them break. I also use copper antisieze they seem to like it great video great work!!!
Great job, Ray! Those Tritons can be a bit scary when it comes to plugs. Good to see you on the T&T livestream last night. Unfortunately, neither of us won anything. He’s a funny guy.
I appreciate your videos. I like how you verbalize your troubleshooting process, and it's reassuring to know that even the professionals deal with uncertainty and odds. I can only imagine the stress working on others' rides daily. Kudos bro.
I was thinking those plugs looked too short.
You're a true professional.
That was a rollercoaster.
I think I had 8 heart attacks.
As ever young Ray, an enjoyable video, letting me see even more of your thinking of how best a pig of a job can be made better for all concerned.. Be happy with your new tool as all of us are with ours, even though we hardly never achieve the professional level of tools we yet to see hiding in your tool chests.. Thanks Again, - Ian -- UK.
I'm gonna be the guy commenting on torque wrench technique and anti seize. From what I understand extensions are fine but the wobbly bits on extensions do change the torque. If you have to use one it should be a constant velocity type and not the normal universal joint. Universal joints as they go through their bendy cycle do change speed and leverage. Also on the anti seize it's probably much more beneficial to apply it to the smooth part and not the threads. I'm pretty sure it's not the threads that get stuck but the extending smooth parts. Kinda like diesel glow plugs. For example Mercedes specifically calls for using anti seize on their glow plugs that way and say to not have it on the threads. They also specify ceramic anti seize that doesn't have metals in it so that if it should dry up the metals in the compound will not react with the metals used in cylinder head or the plug.
In my experience the anti-seize will travel along the threads and ooze out towards the tapered end; provided there is enough which here it seems to be the case. Same happens with thread locker which is undesirable - hence it is to be used sparingly.
Great video as always @Rainman Ray's Repairs
Hey Ray I'm a little spoiled with my 4 cylinder Camry. I would never want to actually work on this myself but I love seeing you do the hard jobs no one else wants to do haha. You probably did it as easy as it would be on my car which is amazing. Keep up the good work
You need to sell your impersonation of the business phone Ray! I crack up at it 😂🤣😂
Turn it into a cellphone ring tone.. lol
I want his imitation as my ringtone.
KILLS ME EVERYTIME.
That torque wrench is almost too pretty to use. Brilliant idea using the impact on a plug with that tendency. I wish I knew about that in the past, also thanks for the reminder about the lubed threads vs torque. Awesome job!
Hello, i have been watching some of your videos this week. You know what, ive been learning a thing or two, a lot. Especially lubricating bolts, so it does have an effect on tension. Thanks a lot. I wwill keep on watching
This video came just in time, about to do the same on an E250 with the same engine, thanks Ray!
If you think your mechanic is not replacing the item that they billed you for. always ask for the items he replaced, and do research on mechanics by asking around for references.
Easier said than done, especially when it comes to something as critical as oil changes. I would know, because a "reputable" shop with good reviews and references nearly cost me an entire engine.
I went in for a simple oil change and because my car was under warranty, the warranty company wanted documented proof of a shop doing the work, which means I was disallowed to do my own work. Well, this "reputable" shop neglected to tighten both the drain plug bolt and the filter. Luckily I lived near the shop and that was my saving grace as when I got home I smelt a burning oil smell, look under the car and sure enough both the filter and the drain plug were gushing oil.
Took it back to that shop on a flatbed and had of they just owned up to the mistake and said "look, we're sorry, we must of been distracted" I could of honestly forgave them, mistakes happen. But their top of the line excuse was "oops, they must of loosened on your drive home" Ah yes, the 5 miles home both filter and bolt loosened leaving less than half the desired oil in the engine.
Jim, I agree with you, I always show customer the parts I replaced and explain why I replaced them. It helps build customer confidence and with all the shady shops it let's them know we ain't all bad.
I agree... Always ask to have the old parts returned. This can't always be done (oil change) and doesn't guarantee the labor side of it was done correctly, but is better than nothing.
There's plenty of old parts that didn't come from your vehicle around.
Yeah like a shop doesnt have an abundance of old parts they throw in the dumpster. Or you have a super power to know which came off your car?
Removing those plugs had me on the edge of my seat. Whew, what a relief when that last plug came out intact.
My brother had a ford truck with those plugs and I said no way am I gonna turn a simple job into a chore.
Great job at narrating through your work.
I looked at one of those in a cube van a few months ago. Passed on it because of the plugs, accessibility to them and the fact the cab design had a seam in the bulkhead that my head hit against.
Kudos to you Ray.....I have seen the Impact used to remove those plugs and it is very successful overall. I appreciate honest mechanics and I would be happy to bring my personal autos to you for service. Thanks for being a stand up guy Ray! Have a Great Day!!
awsome Ray I am going to do my 4.6 3v with added knowledge thanks to you RAY