I hope you enjoyed the video, I know the sound is not as good as usual I had the mic a little to close, just to let you know Formovie have $500 off this projector the moment here is a link for that geni.us/8iNR
For your information, others reviewers have also mentioned that upper corner focus noticeably improves after 20-30 mins of run time. So it seems like a consistent observation.
I've had one from last year I love it my only issues is the manufacturer has already given up and moved on to other things. No updates in sight haven't had one since new
Keeping things evenly balanced, visuals of this price range IMO warrants as proper surround sound setup. However, when one goes with a short-throw projector one is likely to experience Centre channel placement issues.
Yes that is something to consider and I will be taking a look at this issue inthe new year most likely. To be fair it’s mostly I think because the screen size is so big and that would be similar with a tv of this size too. So it will be interesting to tackle the challenge and see what happens :)
Excellent Terry… I will say the AWOL looked more natural to me and I was strongly considering buying the Formovie due its contrast & black levels. Might be the settings but the Formovies colors in the demos looked really over saturated & honestly overcooked. I’m sure one could tweak. Thx for the great video!
Yes the awol has a special ability where it looks like your looking at the real thing rather than an image of something that happened and was made into a video. I liked the strong colours I always turn the colour saturation setting up some to get that :)
Hi Terry, I have the Cinema 2, the predecessor to the Theatre and the focus issue is exactly the same (annoying as you can't focus during playback too!) - it most likely has the same optical block which expands the top edge slightly as it warms up... I now start mine off with the top of the picture an inch or so below the top of the screen border, in around half an hour of it running it fills the frame.
Thanks Terry... love the review but the colours just seem over the top. We get this sort of tech to attempt to re-experience a movie theatre - not an LCD screen (seemingly from a long time ago). You mentioned getting a professional colour calibration done... are there any pre-sets to set natural colour or mimic a real movie theatre? Maybe my requirements are too lofty... and I should just think along the lines of replacing my TV only with these things. Is it a price point factor?
I think firstly it’s important to consider the typical washed out colours of projectors is not a desirable thing - the colours on projection should be the same as on OLED tv which is richly saturated because of the black level. More important than that is you can’t trust my video or how your seeing my video to be 100% accurate. My colour grading is not 100% right but also your seeing HDR recorded on my camera in HDR that’s then converted to SDR and then graded by me then adjusted by RUclips then adjusted by your viewing medium whatever it is. You have a number of settings and a typical set of picture controls here like colour that you adjust the slider for more or less, but in reality you probably wouldn’t touch that much
Enjoyed your review and expertise. What ALR screen are your using for this review. Which projector would you prefer the Awol LTV 3500 or The Fourmovie Theater in a basement (no light)?
There is a link to the screen here shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2465730&u=3858491&m=129862&urllink=&afftrack= If you check out my AWOL 3500 Pro review I explain about the screen in that video ruclips.net/video/Dt8CDJC13h4/видео.html
Great reviews . Keep up the good work . I am testing the xgimi horizon ultra at the moment. And i really like it so far .but would you go for the extra mile and choose the formovie. Since you seen both projectors in action . How would you compare these two in contrast , colors and brightness . I love seen lord of the rings on the big screen . And the xgimi done a great job but i am thinking the formovie can preform better?thanks for your input and reviews .
Hi, I am also looking for an adapter to fit the power socket of the Formovie t1. Is there a chance that you can share a link of the adapter that work for you? Thanks
Does this projector, and USTs in general, have a setting to remove the top and bottom black bars for projecting movies that have the ultra wide 2.35:1. I dont see the bars in your projected samples.
There is defo black bars and yeah I missed the colour wheel aspect as I thought rgb laser there wouldn’t be one. It’s not easy getting info on this projector from the co. Website
I love my Formovie projector but there are definite downsides, like you can't stick a thumb drive in there and just watch movies that you have on it. It does not open your thumb drive and allow you to view anything. I wrote them and they said to use the VLC media player. Lame! Dolby Vision is a great picture while watching movies but it would be nice if it was brighter.
I preferred the AWOL for HDR because of the brightness and clarity that worked better with this screen, however I preferred the colours and richness of the image of the Formovie and SDR on the Formovie was better. So its a good one for a lot less cash :)
I think its just a downside to the design, nothing is perfect, but it supposed to improve once the unit warms up. Also shows I was being thorough and honest in the review pros and cons as always
Terry, have you gone Bonkers! The LTV 3500 Pro is a whole level above the Formovie. As you stated Formovie has Focus issues, gets muddy in the corners, needs 45 minutes to warm up, turn the lights on and picture disappears as it did halfway through your video. Did they pay you for this advertisement? The AWOL LTV 3500 not only has the best picture overall, HDR, DV, HDR 10+ but it has 3D, EBL, 3500 Lumens, a REAL glass F 2.0 lens that is the biggest in the category, can hold HD up to 150”. The LTV 2500 and the Formovie have been in competition with each other for over year and The LTV 2500 seems to be the choice over the Formovie, that unit is around $2k. The LTV 3000 Pro is around $3800. You didn’t mention the color wheel that the Formovie has. Comparing it to the LTV 3500 Pro doesn’t make much sense.
Fair comments and criticism. The 3500pro is a lot more money so yes it’s better in a lot of ways but it’s a lot more money that is important to consider. I didn’t know about the colour wheel I missed that by mistake. The formovie has some very big positives though so it’s important to be fair and mention them which I did. My final comments I like the colours and there is a lot to like about it which is true
@@PursuitPerfectSystemTerry you know the package they gave you is on sale for $5999. That is the LTV 3500 and their 120” Floor Rising Screen that you mentioned you really like. That screen costs $3000. Do the Math, with the savings on the screen it’s $2999. What would you pick now, The AWOL Vision Bundle or the Formovie that doesn’t include the screen?
Yes that is a fantastic deal at the moment and if you don’t have a screen and can afford 6 grand it’s a great option, one I would very much recommend if you see my review I was very complimentary about the duo. But past this Black Friday that won’t apply and my videos live forever and if you already own a screen then it’s a different proposition so I try and look at things a little more broadly an RRP of $3500 is a very different proposition to $5999. 6 grand is a lot of money and might be beyond what someone can ever afford.
Have none of these issues with the Formovie, the Formovie with a Cinecreen aeon CLR i bought it for 4400,Calibrated by dealer.big price difference to the AWOL, the screen cost normally 1999,- Formovie theater still one of the best you can get for the money
For me I think the AWOl with this screen, it has more wow factor for HDR content, SDR the Formovie I preferred and I did really like its sumptuous colours
@PursuitPerfectSystem thanks for your answer.... many many wallets from many many people... have different opinion. The proof : check how many unit's....has sold!!!!!. Nice video.... I hope it's not sponsored
I totally agree with you, it's a great technology but far too expensive for what it offers - I think overalll prices for UST will drop a lot in 2024 and become more mainstream
Value is very personal, I cant speak for any individual I am just speaking generally. When I think of large screen high quality projected images I think of JVC and Sony etc, their projectors cost a lot more than this so in comparison to that the value here is good.
It’s easy to forget that only a few years ago a laser projector cost £35000 and that was a single laser. Only a few years later you can have an RGB laser projector in your home for 10x less than that - let’s keep it real
I didn't know that, I didn't see that written anywhere but that does explain something I saw when. doing the video of the screen playing content, I thought I had made a mistake with the camera settings.
I hope you enjoyed the video, I know the sound is not as good as usual I had the mic a little to close, just to let you know Formovie have $500 off this projector the moment here is a link for that geni.us/8iNR
For your information, others reviewers have also mentioned that upper corner focus noticeably improves after 20-30 mins of run time. So it seems like a consistent observation.
I've enjoyed all the reviews and must say I'm impressed by all these ST projectors. This is some amazing stuff man, thank you sir.
I've had one from last year I love it my only issues is the manufacturer has already given up and moved on to other things. No updates in sight haven't had one since new
Keeping things evenly balanced, visuals of this price range IMO warrants as proper surround sound setup. However, when one goes with a short-throw projector one is likely to experience Centre channel placement issues.
Yes that is something to consider and I will be taking a look at this issue inthe new year most likely. To be fair it’s mostly I think because the screen size is so big and that would be similar with a tv of this size too. So it will be interesting to tackle the challenge and see what happens :)
Excellent Terry… I will say the AWOL looked more natural to me and I was strongly considering buying the Formovie due its contrast & black levels. Might be the settings but the Formovies colors in the demos looked really over saturated & honestly overcooked. I’m sure one could tweak. Thx for the great video!
Yes the awol has a special ability where it looks like your looking at the real thing rather than an image of something that happened and was made into a video. I liked the strong colours I always turn the colour saturation setting up some to get that :)
Hi Terry, I have the Cinema 2, the predecessor to the Theatre and the focus issue is exactly the same (annoying as you can't focus during playback too!) - it most likely has the same optical block which expands the top edge slightly as it warms up... I now start mine off with the top of the picture an inch or so below the top of the screen border, in around half an hour of it running it fills the frame.
Thanks Terry... love the review but the colours just seem over the top. We get this sort of tech to attempt to re-experience a movie theatre - not an LCD screen (seemingly from a long time ago). You mentioned getting a professional colour calibration done... are there any pre-sets to set natural colour or mimic a real movie theatre? Maybe my requirements are too lofty... and I should just think along the lines of replacing my TV only with these things. Is it a price point factor?
I think firstly it’s important to consider the typical washed out colours of projectors is not a desirable thing - the colours on projection should be the same as on OLED tv which is richly saturated because of the black level.
More important than that is you can’t trust my video or how your seeing my video to be 100% accurate. My colour grading is not 100% right but also your seeing HDR recorded on my camera in HDR that’s then converted to SDR and then graded by me then adjusted by RUclips then adjusted by your viewing medium whatever it is.
You have a number of settings and a typical set of picture controls here like colour that you adjust the slider for more or less, but in reality you probably wouldn’t touch that much
Enjoyed your review and expertise. What ALR screen are your using for this review. Which projector would you prefer the Awol LTV 3500 or The Fourmovie Theater in a basement (no light)?
There is a link to the screen here shareasale.com/r.cfm?b=2465730&u=3858491&m=129862&urllink=&afftrack=
If you check out my AWOL 3500 Pro review I explain about the screen in that video ruclips.net/video/Dt8CDJC13h4/видео.html
Great reviews . Keep up the good work . I am testing the xgimi horizon ultra at the moment. And i really like it so far .but would you go for the extra mile and choose the formovie. Since you seen both projectors in action . How would you compare these two in contrast , colors and brightness . I love seen lord of the rings on the big screen . And the xgimi done a great job but i am thinking the formovie can preform better?thanks for your input and reviews .
Excellent work;thank you. Did you have any chance to see this on a 150" screen? is there a color degradation at that level?
Sorry mate, only the 120" I have here
Thank you for your review, when will The Formovie Theater be upgraded with ALDP 5.0? I was hoping to seeing it at CES 2024 but no luck!
Hi, I am also looking for an adapter to fit the power socket of the Formovie t1. Is there a chance that you can share a link of the adapter that work for you? Thanks
Instead of using an adaptor I went with a fully made cable amzn.to/3WmL0zO
@@PursuitPerfectSystem thanks for this
Do you know witch SOC the Formovie Theater uses for processing the system and the apps?
Does this projector, and USTs in general, have a setting to remove the top and bottom black bars for projecting movies that have the ultra wide 2.35:1. I dont see the bars in your projected samples.
There is defo black bars and yeah I missed the colour wheel aspect as I thought rgb laser there wouldn’t be one. It’s not easy getting info on this projector from the co. Website
Keep having remote control issues with mine. Makes me want to get something else. China customer service is trash. Any suggestions
Compare to awol ltv 3000 pro,which one would you recommend?
I love my Formovie projector but there are definite downsides, like you can't stick a thumb drive in there and just watch movies that you have on it. It does not open your thumb drive and allow you to view anything. I wrote them and they said to use the VLC media player. Lame! Dolby Vision is a great picture while watching movies but it would be nice if it was brighter.
Great review! Do you prefer this formovie projector or the awol ltv 3500 pro projector in terms of picture quality?
I preferred the AWOL for HDR because of the brightness and clarity that worked better with this screen, however I preferred the colours and richness of the image of the Formovie and SDR on the Formovie was better. So its a good one for a lot less cash :)
@@PursuitPerfectSystemthanks for the input 😄
I bought this Projector after seeing your review, I’m facing the same issue with Focus on top corners, anything I can do to improve the focus?
I think its just a downside to the design, nothing is perfect, but it supposed to improve once the unit warms up. Also shows I was being thorough and honest in the review pros and cons as always
From what I understand, the ALPD Technology although triple laser, still filters through a color wheel.
Excellent review
Terry, have you gone Bonkers! The LTV 3500 Pro is a whole level above the Formovie. As you stated Formovie has Focus issues, gets muddy in the corners, needs 45 minutes to warm up, turn the lights on and picture disappears as it did halfway through your video. Did they pay you for this advertisement? The AWOL LTV 3500 not only has the best picture overall, HDR, DV, HDR 10+ but it has 3D, EBL, 3500 Lumens, a REAL glass F 2.0 lens that is the biggest in the category, can hold HD up to 150”. The LTV 2500 and the Formovie have been in competition with each other for over year and The LTV 2500 seems to be the choice over the Formovie, that unit is around $2k. The LTV 3000 Pro is around $3800. You didn’t mention the color wheel that the Formovie has. Comparing it to the LTV 3500 Pro doesn’t make much sense.
Fair comments and criticism. The 3500pro is a lot more money so yes it’s better in a lot of ways but it’s a lot more money that is important to consider.
I didn’t know about the colour wheel I missed that by mistake. The formovie has some very big positives though so it’s important to be fair and mention them which I did. My final comments I like the colours and there is a lot to like about it which is true
@@PursuitPerfectSystemTerry you know the package they gave you is on sale for $5999. That is the LTV 3500 and their 120” Floor Rising Screen that you mentioned you really like. That screen costs $3000. Do the Math, with the savings on the screen it’s $2999. What would you pick now, The AWOL Vision Bundle or the Formovie that doesn’t include the screen?
Yes that is a fantastic deal at the moment and if you don’t have a screen and can afford 6 grand it’s a great option, one I would very much recommend if you see my review I was very complimentary about the duo.
But past this Black Friday that won’t apply and my videos live forever and if you already own a screen then it’s a different proposition so I try and look at things a little more broadly an RRP of $3500 is a very different proposition to $5999. 6 grand is a lot of money and might be beyond what someone can ever afford.
Have none of these issues with the Formovie, the Formovie with a Cinecreen aeon CLR i bought it for 4400,Calibrated by dealer.big price difference to the AWOL, the screen cost normally 1999,- Formovie theater still one of the best you can get for the money
"For it's price" was stated up front & you don't take that into account as he did in the review.
Are you a paid troll?
More ust reviews please good work if money no object formovie or awol 3500 pro?????
For me I think the AWOl with this screen, it has more wow factor for HDR content, SDR the Formovie I preferred and I did really like its sumptuous colours
@@PursuitPerfectSystem please review awol ltv 3000 pro much more affordable offering and is price difference worth it
Where can you buy the screen in the UK?
From Amazon - here is the 100" with £300 voucher off geni.us/1vBqi
Here is the 120" with £500 voucher off geni.us/934o
is there a 3D capability ?
No, the Formovie has very few enhancements and the inability to do updates, The AWOL has great 3D capabilities.
Did you see any rainbow effects and visible laser speckle? Those are two concerns that I have with ultra-short throw projectors.
Needs 3D Capabilities
Sorry.... but the price of ust projectors MUST DROP DOWN....NO GOOD VALUE AT ALL
120" high quality image for the same price as a 65" TV or a lot less than long throw projection, its far from bad value
@PursuitPerfectSystem thanks for your answer.... many many wallets from many many people... have different opinion. The proof : check how many unit's....has sold!!!!!. Nice video.... I hope it's not sponsored
I totally agree with you, it's a great technology but far too expensive for what it offers - I think overalll prices for UST will drop a lot in 2024 and become more mainstream
Value is very personal, I cant speak for any individual I am just speaking generally. When I think of large screen high quality projected images I think of JVC and Sony etc, their projectors cost a lot more than this so in comparison to that the value here is good.
It’s easy to forget that only a few years ago a laser projector cost £35000 and that was a single laser. Only a few years later you can have an RGB laser projector in your home for 10x less than that - let’s keep it real
Nice takes. Now lets get the 100 inch hisense u8k in the house 😅
You can’t roll that one up to get it through the door :)
There is a phosphorus wheel in the for movie so not a pure laser source strange set up when it uses lasers to start with
I didn't know that, I didn't see that written anywhere but that does explain something I saw when. doing the video of the screen playing content, I thought I had made a mistake with the camera settings.
I have bought few days ago…would you know what are the 2 rotary button on either side of the projector ? No reviewer has explained it.
They lower the feet for adjusting the angle