You are the guitar whisperer. 😂 I bought one of those DIY double neck stratocaster kits and I converted the bottom from regular guitar to baritone with just a set of strings and a baritone neck. I used guitar fetish Texas specials pickups. It turned out great.
@@TomTobin67 oh, is it the one with the carbon fiber pickguard and holographic boobs on the neck plate? You have comments turned off on the video, but I'd love to see a follow up video. Looks like a 28" baritone neck? You ever get it adjusted to be playable?
Absolutely love the video and have been consistently rewatching it for the best 2 weeks. Don’t see many baritone builds on RUclips. Thank you for explaining everything clearly on your process!
The build looks class! I've actually been considering doing something very similar, I have one of those Subzero bass VI's that I sometimes use with a jazz trio but I'm not a fan, a Strat style seems perfect for this kind of instrument. Good to see those Ebay necks are quality too!
I've been wanting to re finish my Squier mustang neck for that fender neck look and this is perfect! vintage clear and satin nitro! definitely buying these! awesome baritone build by the way! 👌
RUclips has been recommending this video to me for the past couple of weeks, and today I finally gave it a go. I have to say: instant subscribe. Baritone have been on the back of my head for a while now (mostly because of The Bunn, a Canadian RUclipsr / sludge guitarist that advocate heavily pro-baritones). Anyway, loved the song you did on the end of the video. Loved the build, your video setup... thank you for your work!
Cool Vid! I built a 30 inch Tele bodied Bari a couple years ago and I can hardly put it down. It's Pearl Lime Green with a hint of GoldBurst on the front, and Pearl Eggplant Purple on the back and neck. Did my own abalone inlays. Hipshot tuners and bridge. Aluminum strip body binding. DiMarzio D-Sonic in the bridge and DiMarzio Evolution in the neck...talk about tone! It's a beast. I call it the *Tele-Baller Booty-Caster.* You can see it on my channel along with a couple other builds.
Very inspiring! Watched this more than once now-I might do similar. I’m guessing it’s not strictly necessary to move and re-route the bridge and middle pickup. The tone would just shift a bit warmer with these 2 pickups being pushed a bit forward from the bridge. I’m thinking I might try this at first, that way a noob like me doesn’t have to route anything, and I can use a standard pick guard, or a “loaded” one ready to go. Then if I don’t like it, I have the option to move the pickups back closer to the bridge later. I’m thinking of doing this on either a hard tail Strat or Tele. I think the same neck maker does a 30” 24 fret T-style neck as well. I might consider installing a top mount Xtrem with roller bridge-easy install. Sparking lots of ideas!
Awesome video! I’m so glad I came across this. I have a strat body with swimming pool route sitting around that I planned on converting to use a hardtail. Once I get that completed, I may do this. I’ve been wanting a baritone.
About 6% of your scale length for the bridge pickup. I've just strung my scratch build 28.625" scale 7 string. You may also want to look at the spacing for the neck pick-up vs the original 25.5" scale neck position, and try to get that closer to the neck itself (it means the pickups spread a little which I didn't pickup during the video).A little less neck break angle at the neck pocket with moving the bridge and scale. Easier with a CNC but possible without just take your time and be accurate and planned. Awesome build.
I wanted to do something similar but concert an SG style short scale bass to resemble an EB6. Wish Epiphone would do a version of those, it would be a cool competitor to the fender stuff
If you tune this E to E it's not actually a baritone, this makes it a bass. Also, the middle pickup being RWRP has nothing to do with tone, it just makes the in between positions hum cancelling. But pedantry aside this is an amazing build. I wish I had a CNC machine! I have so many ideas, but I don't have the practical woodworking skills to realise them.
Great vid and great build! Totally didn't just inspire me to order one of these necks and actually learn how to use my CNC properly. Nope. Totally didn't just happen.
For the bridge and bridge pickup, could you have used a top-load Telecaster assembly that is flat? That would allow you to use a cool Telecaster bridge pickup on a Baritone, AND, it would cover the original string-through body holes. Sounds cool, I think I might try it. I really enjoyed your content, Thank You EDIT, Additional thought, I'm pretty sure they make stack single coil humbuckers with ceramic magnets, just a thought if high gain is a consideration.
@@MarkGutierrez SO many options available these days. I remember trying to find guitar parts back in the late 1970s, I was usually ordering by phone and mailing in a money order! 4 weeks later the part arrived! My gosh how times have changed. Your Baritone turned out great, thanks for sharing your build with us.
Would like to try this with a $60 unifinished strat style kit off Amazon, so that I can Shou Sugi Ban my own finish on it, as I used in my van conversion ceiling...
A not-inexpensive project I have done the line, but a similar goal is down the line for me. I’m going to buy a 30” scale Bass VI neck from Alef guitars (I’m big into aluminum guitar stuff right now) but just build the body myself out of reclaimed wood. Single humbucker in the P position. I’ll need to put some sort of counterweight in the bottom and futz with the strap button positions for best comfort for whatever body shape I go with (which will also be designed for best comfort for my playing style and position). Metal is heavy, yknow?
Also, you can do a full custom set from stringjoy. I’m doing that for my current guitar project. 13.5-60 balanced tension for DADgad at acoustic tension. I love maximum effort strings.
my idea is to build a baritone neck with +2 frets in a standard 25.5 inch body. I went to stewmac fret position calculator and went by trial and error until I got 28.62 inches, which you get from fret 2 to the other 26 frets the same distance between then, plus the "negative" frets from nut to 2nd. It will have the same distance between a standard neck, but will be like standard E tunning from 2nd to 26th fret in a 25.5' and more 2 semitones from nut to 2nd fret in a 28.62'
Super nice. I picked up one of the Cabronita Squire Baritone Teles a few years ago, but have always considered doing one DIY. Maybe this was the inspiration I needed! Great Video Mark, and subscribed.
Such a cool build! I've been wanting a Bass VI type guitar for a while now, so it's cool to see how easily one can be made. I'm curious, was there a reason that you didn't go for the Bass VI set of strings from Stringjoy? They have a sets with .90 or .95 6th strings available.
Hi. I remember reading through the description of the two packs of Bass VI sets they sell. I wasn't happy with the idea of an increased tension set. I ran the numbers of their balanced set through their string tension calculator. I wasn't happy either. I think I just wanted a custom set that would would for drop running. At lease that was my original plan. I ended up tuning to E. So in the end, I could have just picked up that Bass VI set.
I'm not a shredder, but I have wanted an inexpensive baritone guitar to do Glen Campbell "Lineman" and "Galveston" licks, some Eagles stuff and some Pete Anderson - Dwight Yoakam tunes. I'm wondering if you think this build could get the job done?
Replace the ceramic magnets with neodymium. There's a guitar myth-buster guy on youtube that made his own homemade neo pups as well as an alumitone, AND a bigsby setup that you can dive bomb. Long story short, neos have the clarity and focus of the best alnico, with the power and bass that they lack, particularly on single coil pups. Slightly light on the windings+N52 neo magnets = great sounding pups instead of cheap ceramics.
Just a quick anecdote about cheap Chinese ebay necks: I bought a $90 roasted flame maple neck and it's a nice piece of wood but the frets were *horrible*. Jagged, sharp edges and several were lifting up already. Ended up pulling 6 of them out just with my fingers. Now I'm working on refretting the whole thing and had to buy some new tools to do so. That $90 neck turned into around $200 and a lot of labor and there are still several ways it could go wrong. If I could take it back I'd just spend the extra $ on a quality neck and avoid all the trouble.
Yikes. I've bought about 4 or 5 Chinese eBay necks already and haven't had any major issues. I certainly level the frets on them but I would do that with any overseas guitar.
Do the tapers on those stringjoy strings end up behind the nut? I'm planning a build like this and was worried about what type of bridge to use (string through vs top load) due to the winding potentially not reaching all the way to the nut with normal non-baritone strings.
Stringjoy allows you to make custom sets of whatever you want, you know that right? They even have a present Bass VI set that is exactly what you built there
Hey, this is a really cool build. I'm currently in the process of converting an old LTD M-10 into a 27" scale baritone. Coincidentally I bought a very similiar neck from eBay with the blocks and the 70's style headstock. One question I have though, when CNC'ing the new pickup cavities, would it not have been easier to just route a "swimming pool"?
there are two types of necks. Regular necks and Conversion necks. If you used a conversion neck, you wouldn't have to move the bridge but those necks are expensive. I used a regular neck and had to move the bridge.
I had a 28 5/8” Warmoth Strat. It was very pretty (black Limba body, ebony over Wenge neck), but not for me. Made money flipping it, and was without a Bari until last week, when I picked up a stock P90 Cabronita. 27” is the ticket for me.
I love this ibanez headless ehb series bass and i recall it has a shortscale version, in your opinion would it be possible converted into a 7 or 8 string baritone headless guitar? 😂
Hello i was wondering why you changed the place of the bridge, what would happen if you didn’t ? Also the guitar looks really nice I’m gonna try to make one with the same neck
There are conversion baritone necks which allow you to install them without moving the bridge back. This particular neck was a Bass VI type neck which required the bridge to be moved.
This is so inspirational!!! I just wish you'd changed the curve of the scratch plate near the bridge instead of the little bit sticking out to cover the holes, but that's just me. Everything else is so great. Really nice colour choices. What is the tuning? Is it like a bass VI or is it G standard? Thanks for publishing your work on RUclips like this!
Hi Mark! Fantastic build. I watched a few times, and maybe I missed it, but could you explain what is going on when you are CNCing the heel of the neck? I'm assuming you had to modify it so that it would fit the import strat spec pocket. Did you have to modify the length, width, or depth?
Ok, so I have all of my parts. Routed the pickup cavity freehand, making my own pickguard, and putting the parts together. I see why you removed material from the heel. I didn't, and the height on my bridge is set at max. Still fully playable. My neck certainly doesn't look as pretty. Lots of little cosmetic flaws. But functionality is perfect. The body is actually great for the price. So, for a litle over $160 usd, I now have a quite decent bass vi/xl baritone. Thanks so much for posting this video, Mark. BTW, I love your other videos too.
awesome video! I did my first ever jazzmaster build/assembly with an all guitar fetish parts (except graph tech nut) this month and it was so much fun. I'd love to see you explain how you design and model in CAD.. did you have to design that body in cad prior to making the adjustments? or did you use the standard import spec strat body since thats what LIDOs are cut to?
For this build, accuracy of the body wasn't important. I literally downloaded the body off of grabcad. Wouldn't matter if the specs or dimensions were off cause I'm designing off of the center line with an origin point at the center of the end of the neck pocket. So even if the body wasn't a perfect match to the model, the center line is the same on both and I just used that has the origin point for the CNC.
Great setup you got going on there! The guitar sounds amazing as well! What pickups did you use? Another question, I'm new to all of this, would not the length of the neck be good enough, rather than shifting the bridge and pickups? If not, why not? I also noticed that you did some cnc work on the bass of the neck, with the cnc, there's no audio only music, I'm not sure exactly what you did?
Hi, I used the cheapest ceramic pickups available on the market. I pulled them from an overseas guitar. Warmoth makes conversion necks that retrofit on any standard scale body. This neck is not a conversion neck, it's a traditional 30 inch neck, so we have to move the bridge back. Conversion necks avoid this by compensating the build of the neck outward, so the necks are longer toward the headstock. CNC work on the heel was to shave off 2 millimeters.
Hi, the neck is great. I don't remember what I did with the finish of the neck. I think I was spraying a lot of stain nitro back then. A rattle can of satin nitro from Stew Mac.
If you paid for a photo editor to do the car work and a builder /luthier to route the body or a cnc service . And add in your time and knowledge value , it’s cheaper for anyone off the street to buy a baritone squier haha . But I love your videos . 😊
What you have built is basically a Fender bass VI which is not really a baritone. Baritone guitars are generally tuned to C, B, or A, below the standard guitar low E while a bass VI is tuned even lower to an octave below a regular guitar's low E (the same as a bass guitar). The stringset for a bass VI would take care of what you are after without having to struggle buying multiple sets of strings. Fender as well as a few others make these bass six string sets 024 (wound) to 084 is common but there are sets with 090 and 095 for the low string. Cool beast you made though!!!
@@hamesonjarris While it seems it is somewhat open to opinion what constitutes a baritone exactly, a bass VI is a bit of a different beast than a "normal" baritone guitar. Not sure what scale length and string sets those guys use but if they are 30" scale and have all wound strings then I'd say they are playing bass VI type instruments rather than baritones.
@ryanmartin2343 What exactly constitutes as being "fun at parties" is a pretty seriously wide definition and depends entirely on an individual's personal taste. ;)
@@7171jaythe only difference between a bass vi and a baritone is the strings. Danelectro invented the 6-string bass in the 50s, and Fender followed with their Bass VI in the 60s. So originally these instruments were considered basses and tuned E-to-E. Later people started stringing them with lighter strings and tuning them to B-to-B calling it a baritone.
Dude how did you position the body on the cnc bed (the first time it was impressive enough), then flipped it over and had the machine aligned and zeroed exactly where you wanted? I'm very curious, this is not easy to do.
I send the router to the center of the table. I have it score a center line on the wasteboard. I find the center line of the guitar body using the neck pocket and bridge screw holds. I match the center line of the guitar on top of the center line of the wasteboard. I send the router up and down the y-axis to confirm it's centered. done.
@@MarkGutierrez I see, I thought it must've been something like that, but since you raised the body with those cork pads it looked kinda tricky to eliminate parallax error. Nice job man, very inspiring, next time I need to do something similar I won't chicken out by building an entire fixture to hold it in place and give this a shot instead!
This channel should have WAY more subscribers.
Your voice is soothing. You're like the Bob Ross of guitar building. Happy little single coils LOLOL
if you want to hear the "bob ross" of lutherie check out "twoodford" hes got that bob ross thing going but he usuallly repairs guitars on hs channel
You are the guitar whisperer. 😂
I bought one of those DIY double neck stratocaster kits and I converted the bottom from regular guitar to baritone with just a set of strings and a baritone neck. I used guitar fetish Texas specials pickups. It turned out great.
Which baritone neck?
@spastickitchen - Just some baritone neck I found on ebay.
@@TomTobin67 oh, is it the one with the carbon fiber pickguard and holographic boobs on the neck plate? You have comments turned off on the video, but I'd love to see a follow up video. Looks like a 28" baritone neck? You ever get it adjusted to be playable?
@@spastickitchen yep! Boobs etched on metal is a good thing.
Absolutely love the video and have been consistently rewatching it for the best 2 weeks. Don’t see many baritone builds on RUclips. Thank you for explaining everything clearly on your process!
I absolutely love that pickguard color over the off white.
I admire you, Mark. Building your own guitar! All that work. 😮🙂👍🏻👍🏻
The build looks class! I've actually been considering doing something very similar, I have one of those Subzero bass VI's that I sometimes use with a jazz trio but I'm not a fan, a Strat style seems perfect for this kind of instrument. Good to see those Ebay necks are quality too!
I've been wanting to re finish my Squier mustang neck for that fender neck look and this is perfect! vintage clear and satin nitro! definitely buying these! awesome baritone build by the way! 👌
RUclips has been recommending this video to me for the past couple of weeks, and today I finally gave it a go. I have to say: instant subscribe. Baritone have been on the back of my head for a while now (mostly because of The Bunn, a Canadian RUclipsr / sludge guitarist that advocate heavily pro-baritones). Anyway, loved the song you did on the end of the video. Loved the build, your video setup... thank you for your work!
Cool Vid! I built a 30 inch Tele bodied Bari a couple years ago and I can hardly put it down. It's Pearl Lime Green with a hint of GoldBurst on the front, and Pearl Eggplant Purple on the back and neck. Did my own abalone inlays. Hipshot tuners and bridge. Aluminum strip body binding. DiMarzio D-Sonic in the bridge and DiMarzio Evolution in the neck...talk about tone! It's a beast. I call it the *Tele-Baller Booty-Caster.*
You can see it on my channel along with a couple other builds.
I do love your conversion builds, so much detail and cools ways of showing us how you do it 😊
Very inspiring! Watched this more than once now-I might do similar. I’m guessing it’s not strictly necessary to move and re-route the bridge and middle pickup. The tone would just shift a bit warmer with these 2 pickups being pushed a bit forward from the bridge. I’m thinking I might try this at first, that way a noob like me doesn’t have to route anything, and I can use a standard pick guard, or a “loaded” one ready to go. Then if I don’t like it, I have the option to move the pickups back closer to the bridge later.
I’m thinking of doing this on either a hard tail Strat or Tele. I think the same neck maker does a 30” 24 fret T-style neck as well. I might consider installing a top mount Xtrem with roller bridge-easy install.
Sparking lots of ideas!
Awesome video! I’m so glad I came across this. I have a strat body with swimming pool route sitting around that I planned on converting to use a hardtail. Once I get that completed, I may do this. I’ve been wanting a baritone.
Awesome !!! I got a Walnut Jaguar Body lying around collecting Dust. You inspired me to make it a Baritone as well. Great Channel, keep going 👍
This is cool! It seems you're going for more of a Bass VI, than a baritone.
Look into Curt Mangan Bass VI strings. You'll love them!
30" is huge. I'll bet it could support A Standard tuning like a champ. Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
It is actually tuned in E. Like 6 strings bass. Beautiful build but... not a guitar anymore.
@@jullev6709still a guitar, it has a different voicing than a bass
Just found this channel and the quality of content is insanely good. Brilliant video, looking forward to more!
Cheap… if you have a CNC and know what you’re doing. So slick though. Happy this video got recommended!
About 6% of your scale length for the bridge pickup. I've just strung my scratch build 28.625" scale 7 string. You may also want to look at the spacing for the neck pick-up vs the original 25.5" scale neck position, and try to get that closer to the neck itself (it means the pickups spread a little which I didn't pickup during the video).A little less neck break angle at the neck pocket with moving the bridge and scale. Easier with a CNC but possible without just take your time and be accurate and planned. Awesome build.
Love the look of the neck
Awesome. My favourite set up. Way to go.
I was just looking at this exact neck I’m pretty sure… going to to try and put it on a squier jazzmaster I have.
I wanted to do something similar but concert an SG style short scale bass to resemble an EB6. Wish Epiphone would do a version of those, it would be a cool competitor to the fender stuff
If you tune this E to E it's not actually a baritone, this makes it a bass.
Also, the middle pickup being RWRP has nothing to do with tone, it just makes the in between positions hum cancelling. But pedantry aside this is an amazing build. I wish I had a CNC machine! I have so many ideas, but I don't have the practical woodworking skills to realise them.
Cool build man ! I personally prefer a 36 inch scale Bari stringed with 00,8 to 0,38 strings tuned to C.
SO FUNNY! I bought the same neck and received it today!
Really nice build. I would call it a Bass VI more than a Baritone Guitar. Cool outro jam in a 80' 'heroic' style.
Commenting before watching it is freaking gorgeous! 😍😍
That's a beautiful guitar.
Just discovered your channel and I am staying.
Cool! Going to build a bass vi soon myself.
Great vid and great build! Totally didn't just inspire me to order one of these necks and actually learn how to use my CNC properly. Nope. Totally didn't just happen.
Love the asthetics!
Your channel is so cool!
Hello, I really enjoyed the music at the end 👌! Where can I listen more of it ? Thanks
You have a very smooth voice
That's awesome Mr.G. I really want a baritone. Yours looks like a high end one. ❤
Always thought about doing something like that for playing The Cure covers, since I can't really get a real Fender VI (or even the Squier one).
Mark can write music as well as build guitars!!I LOVE THIS CHANNEL!he needs to make a soundtrack to showcase his songwriting chops
Awesome build
For the bridge and bridge pickup, could you have used a top-load Telecaster assembly that is flat?
That would allow you to use a cool Telecaster bridge pickup on a Baritone, AND, it would cover the original string-through body holes.
Sounds cool, I think I might try it.
I really enjoyed your content, Thank You
EDIT, Additional thought, I'm pretty sure they make stack single coil humbuckers with ceramic magnets, just a thought if high gain is a consideration.
Great idea. I hadn't thought of that. A top loading tele bridge would have been much easier.
@@MarkGutierrez SO many options available these days. I remember trying to find guitar parts back in the late 1970s, I was usually ordering by phone and mailing in a money order! 4 weeks later the part arrived! My gosh how times have changed.
Your Baritone turned out great, thanks for sharing your build with us.
That cardboard pickguard would be also damn cool. I love this build and it sounds awesome in the mix!
Awesome build brotha!💪🏽 Do you sell custom made pick guards by any chance?
You can skip to the very end to hear the baritone in a mix. I think you can tell by my facial expressions that this guitar is loads of fun.
If the only thing you played was at 28 min till end was worth it that , that was so good !
Just WOW !! GOOD JOB !
Dude you build a bass vi just get a vi bass set of strings. Loved the video keep up the good job
Would like to try this with a $60 unifinished strat style kit off Amazon, so that I can Shou Sugi Ban my own finish on it, as I used in my van conversion ceiling...
A not-inexpensive project I have done the line, but a similar goal is down the line for me.
I’m going to buy a 30” scale Bass VI neck from Alef guitars (I’m big into aluminum guitar stuff right now) but just build the body myself out of reclaimed wood.
Single humbucker in the P position.
I’ll need to put some sort of counterweight in the bottom and futz with the strap button positions for best comfort for whatever body shape I go with (which will also be designed for best comfort for my playing style and position).
Metal is heavy, yknow?
Also, you can do a full custom set from stringjoy.
I’m doing that for my current guitar project. 13.5-60 balanced tension for DADgad at acoustic tension. I love maximum effort strings.
Beautiful project, it turned out great!
Sounds great.
my idea is to build a baritone neck with +2 frets in a standard 25.5 inch body. I went to stewmac fret position calculator and went by trial and error until I got 28.62 inches, which you get from fret 2 to the other 26 frets the same distance between then, plus the "negative" frets from nut to 2nd. It will have the same distance between a standard neck, but will be like standard E tunning from 2nd to 26th fret in a 25.5' and more 2 semitones from nut to 2nd fret in a 28.62'
Great content. Awesome job 👍👏
I love it! Thanks for the video
Good video, I'm learning a lot from this channel.
Very interesting stuff! Do you think using a fender subsonic neck on a Strat requires moving the pickup routing?
great little project!
Super nice. I picked up one of the Cabronita Squire Baritone Teles a few years ago, but have always considered doing one DIY. Maybe this was the inspiration I needed! Great Video Mark, and subscribed.
Such a cool build! I've been wanting a Bass VI type guitar for a while now, so it's cool to see how easily one can be made. I'm curious, was there a reason that you didn't go for the Bass VI set of strings from Stringjoy? They have a sets with .90 or .95 6th strings available.
Hi. I remember reading through the description of the two packs of Bass VI sets they sell. I wasn't happy with the idea of an increased tension set. I ran the numbers of their balanced set through their string tension calculator. I wasn't happy either. I think I just wanted a custom set that would would for drop running. At lease that was my original plan. I ended up tuning to E. So in the end, I could have just picked up that Bass VI set.
Love how dark you got the fingerboard. What are you using to oil your rosewood boards?
awesome work man
i dont agree with everything you say but god damn when imm having a bad day your voice helps put me to sleep
Awesome built thanks for the video \m/
How does your partscaster baritone compare with your firefly FFJA baritone? Do you prefer the humbuckers or the single coils for a baritone?
LOVE it dude!! You should build and sell these! Haha
I'm not a shredder, but I have wanted an inexpensive baritone guitar to do Glen Campbell "Lineman" and "Galveston" licks, some Eagles stuff and some Pete Anderson - Dwight Yoakam tunes. I'm wondering if you think this build could get the job done?
what would happen if you just left the bridge where it is originally? wouldn't you just have a slight smaller scale baritone? or no?
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Fender super 250’s are a bass vi set with guitar ball ends, 100-24 gauges, and all strings wound. Oh, and they’re only like 18 bucks.
Replace the ceramic magnets with neodymium. There's a guitar myth-buster guy on youtube that made his own homemade neo pups as well as an alumitone, AND a bigsby setup that you can dive bomb. Long story short, neos have the clarity and focus of the best alnico, with the power and bass that they lack, particularly on single coil pups. Slightly light on the windings+N52 neo magnets = great sounding pups instead of cheap ceramics.
That is just fucking insane. On the outside it's so clean but it was so simple. I could build one of these!
Just a quick anecdote about cheap Chinese ebay necks:
I bought a $90 roasted flame maple neck and it's a nice piece of wood but the frets were *horrible*. Jagged, sharp edges and several were lifting up already. Ended up pulling 6 of them out just with my fingers. Now I'm working on refretting the whole thing and had to buy some new tools to do so. That $90 neck turned into around $200 and a lot of labor and there are still several ways it could go wrong.
If I could take it back I'd just spend the extra $ on a quality neck and avoid all the trouble.
Yikes. I've bought about 4 or 5 Chinese eBay necks already and haven't had any major issues. I certainly level the frets on them but I would do that with any overseas guitar.
@@MarkGutierrez Glad to hear you've had better luck than I! The baritone turned out great and sounds awesome man.
Killer build mark. Can you turn up the lighting in your studio? Hurts my eyes on iphone
Do the tapers on those stringjoy strings end up behind the nut? I'm planning a build like this and was worried about what type of bridge to use (string through vs top load) due to the winding potentially not reaching all the way to the nut with normal non-baritone strings.
Awesome video Mark! What is the drum sound you used for the music in your vid?
The drum sound was from a drum module in VCV Rack. I can't remember which one.
How fun was that?! very cool vid.
Stringjoy allows you to make custom sets of whatever you want, you know that right? They even have a present Bass VI set that is exactly what you built there
Hey, this is a really cool build. I'm currently in the process of converting an old LTD M-10 into a 27" scale baritone. Coincidentally I bought a very similiar neck from eBay with the blocks and the 70's style headstock. One question I have though, when CNC'ing the new pickup cavities, would it not have been easier to just route a "swimming pool"?
Yes. A swimming pool would have been much easier.
@@MarkGutierrez props on the build though! Really class looking. Hope mine ends up even half as good as yours
did you move the bridge down because you used a regular neck? If I used a baritone length neck, would I have to change the bridge position?
there are two types of necks. Regular necks and Conversion necks. If you used a conversion neck, you wouldn't have to move the bridge but those necks are expensive. I used a regular neck and had to move the bridge.
I had a 28 5/8” Warmoth Strat. It was very pretty (black Limba body, ebony over Wenge neck), but not for me. Made money flipping it, and was without a Bari until last week, when I picked up a stock P90 Cabronita. 27” is the ticket for me.
I love this ibanez headless ehb series bass and i recall it has a shortscale version, in your opinion would it be possible converted into a 7 or 8 string baritone headless guitar? 😂
Hello i was wondering why you changed the place of the bridge, what would happen if you didn’t ?
Also the guitar looks really nice I’m gonna try to make one with the same neck
There are conversion baritone necks which allow you to install them without moving the bridge back. This particular neck was a Bass VI type neck which required the bridge to be moved.
@@MarkGutierrez thank you for your answer
i love your content so much man, absolutely amazing stuff. super relaxing as well!
This is so inspirational!!! I just wish you'd changed the curve of the scratch plate near the bridge instead of the little bit sticking out to cover the holes, but that's just me. Everything else is so great. Really nice colour choices. What is the tuning? Is it like a bass VI or is it G standard? Thanks for publishing your work on RUclips like this!
Thanks! I think it's like a Bass VI. It's EADGBE but an octave down?
@@MarkGutierrez Oh, that is so cool. I would love to take on a project like this. Thanks for the great info.
Hi Mark! Fantastic build. I watched a few times, and maybe I missed it, but could you explain what is going on when you are CNCing the heel of the neck? I'm assuming you had to modify it so that it would fit the import strat spec pocket. Did you have to modify the length, width, or depth?
Hi, I only had to modify the thickness of the neck heel. It was a little too tall by about 2mm. I just shaved off 2mm. that's all.
Thanks so much. Knowing that, I would much like to try the same trick, just without a CNC.
Ok, so I have all of my parts. Routed the pickup cavity freehand, making my own pickguard, and putting the parts together. I see why you removed material from the heel. I didn't, and the height on my bridge is set at max. Still fully playable. My neck certainly doesn't look as pretty. Lots of little cosmetic flaws. But functionality is perfect. The body is actually great for the price. So, for a litle over $160 usd, I now have a quite decent bass vi/xl baritone. Thanks so much for posting this video, Mark. BTW, I love your other videos too.
@@spastickitchen so cool!
He has lots of stuff in his stash. I find that sentence funny. Simple pleasures. 🙂🙃🤣✌️
Pretty sure thats a squire vi neck great way to get a custom vi .
awesome video! I did my first ever jazzmaster build/assembly with an all guitar fetish parts (except graph tech nut) this month and it was so much fun. I'd love to see you explain how you design and model in CAD.. did you have to design that body in cad prior to making the adjustments? or did you use the standard import spec strat body since thats what LIDOs are cut to?
For this build, accuracy of the body wasn't important. I literally downloaded the body off of grabcad. Wouldn't matter if the specs or dimensions were off cause I'm designing off of the center line with an origin point at the center of the end of the neck pocket. So even if the body wasn't a perfect match to the model, the center line is the same on both and I just used that has the origin point for the CNC.
You noticed that about Fender jacks too. ✌️
Great setup you got going on there!
The guitar sounds amazing as well!
What pickups did you use?
Another question, I'm new to all of this, would not the length of the neck be good enough, rather than shifting the bridge and pickups?
If not, why not?
I also noticed that you did some cnc work on the bass of the neck, with the cnc, there's no audio only music, I'm not sure exactly what you did?
Hi, I used the cheapest ceramic pickups available on the market. I pulled them from an overseas guitar. Warmoth makes conversion necks that retrofit on any standard scale body. This neck is not a conversion neck, it's a traditional 30 inch neck, so we have to move the bridge back. Conversion necks avoid this by compensating the build of the neck outward, so the necks are longer toward the headstock. CNC work on the heel was to shave off 2 millimeters.
So anything over a 30" neck would be considered baritone, that's measuring from the nut to the bridge?
how come he had to move the bridge? is it to get the scale length right, would it not intonate properly without the bridge being moved
Correct. The body was for a standard 25.5" scale-length neck. The new 30" scale-length neck required the bridge to move further back.
What is the tuning of the baritone? I have one but it's still unfinished. cause in my country it's kinda hard to find strings that size.
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Awesome work! I’m also currently building my own baritone. How’s the neck? Did you finish it with some coating of leave it as is?
Hi, the neck is great. I don't remember what I did with the finish of the neck. I think I was spraying a lot of stain nitro back then. A rattle can of satin nitro from Stew Mac.
Thank you for your response! Do you think this neck will work with jazzmaster and jaguars?
If you paid for a photo editor to do the car work and a builder /luthier to route the body or a cnc service . And add in your time and knowledge value , it’s cheaper for anyone off the street to buy a baritone squier haha . But I love your videos . 😊
What you have built is basically a Fender bass VI which is not really a baritone. Baritone guitars are generally tuned to C, B, or A, below the standard guitar low E while a bass VI is tuned even lower to an octave below a regular guitar's low E (the same as a bass guitar). The stringset for a bass VI would take care of what you are after without having to struggle buying multiple sets of strings. Fender as well as a few others make these bass six string sets 024 (wound) to 084 is common but there are sets with 090 and 095 for the low string. Cool beast you made though!!!
Tell that to loathe, a band that uses baritone guitars tuned to E or even double drop D
@@hamesonjarris While it seems it is somewhat open to opinion what constitutes a baritone exactly, a bass VI is a bit of a different beast than a "normal" baritone guitar. Not sure what scale length and string sets those guys use but if they are 30" scale and have all wound strings then I'd say they are playing bass VI type instruments rather than baritones.
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@ryanmartin2343 What exactly constitutes as being "fun at parties" is a pretty seriously wide definition and depends entirely on an individual's personal taste. ;)
@@7171jaythe only difference between a bass vi and a baritone is the strings. Danelectro invented the 6-string bass in the 50s, and Fender followed with their Bass VI in the 60s. So originally these instruments were considered basses and tuned E-to-E. Later people started stringing them with lighter strings and tuning them to B-to-B calling it a baritone.
Very inspiring!
Dude how did you position the body on the cnc bed (the first time it was impressive enough), then flipped it over and had the machine aligned and zeroed exactly where you wanted? I'm very curious, this is not easy to do.
I send the router to the center of the table. I have it score a center line on the wasteboard. I find the center line of the guitar body using the neck pocket and bridge screw holds. I match the center line of the guitar on top of the center line of the wasteboard. I send the router up and down the y-axis to confirm it's centered. done.
@@MarkGutierrez I see, I thought it must've been something like that, but since you raised the body with those cork pads it looked kinda tricky to eliminate parallax error. Nice job man, very inspiring, next time I need to do something similar I won't chicken out by building an entire fixture to hold it in place and give this a shot instead!
Wow! I love this! I want one!
Do you do anything like putting a kit together for customers? I’d love one without the tuners or electronics.
it was the goodbye horses vibes that did it for me..
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