Evolution of Shining Force 1991 to 2020 (28 Games in 6 Minutes) - NVSGamer
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Exploring Brilliance and Evolution - The Shining Series Review
Rating: ★★★★☆ (4/5)
The "Shining" series of video games, developed primarily by Sega and known for its diverse range of genres within the role-playing game (RPG) spectrum, has etched a notable legacy in the gaming world since its inception. Spanning multiple consoles and generations, the series offers a fascinating journey through various gameplay styles, storytelling approaches, and graphical enhancements.
Evolution of Gameplay and Genres:
One of the most remarkable aspects of the "Shining" series is its adaptability to different RPG subgenres. From traditional turn-based combat to tactical strategy and action RPGs, the series has demonstrated its versatility. This diversity ensures that each entry brings a fresh perspective, appealing to a broad spectrum of RPG enthusiasts.
The strategic turn-based combat of titles like "Shining Force" showcases the series' tactical prowess, with players orchestrating battles on grid-based maps. On the other hand, action RPGs like "Shining Soul" provide a faster-paced experience with real-time combat mechanics, catering to players who prefer a more dynamic approach. This willingness to experiment with gameplay mechanics is both a strength and a hallmark of the series.
Storytelling and World-Building:
The narrative quality across the "Shining" series is a mixed bag. While some installments deliver immersive, emotionally charged tales that draw players into their worlds, others tend to prioritize gameplay mechanics over storytelling. "Shining Force II" and "Shining Tears" exemplify instances where the storytelling excels, offering engaging characters, intricate plotlines, and memorable moments.
Visual and Audio Presentation:
The series' graphical evolution mirrors the advancements in gaming technology over the years. Early titles had a distinct pixel-art charm that has aged gracefully. With time, the transition to 3D visuals showcased the developers' commitment to modernizing the series, though this transformation was met with mixed reception among fans.
Legacy and Reception:
The "Shining" series has amassed a dedicated fanbase over its decades-long existence. Some entries are considered classics within their respective genres, while others are regarded as missteps. The series' influence on RPG gaming cannot be denied, and it continues to inspire new titles and developers seeking to experiment with gameplay mechanics and storytelling approaches.
Conclusion:
The "Shining" series embodies the spirit of evolution within the RPG genre. With a range of gameplay styles, narrative tones, and graphical advancements, it has delivered both memorable classics and slightly underwhelming entries. Its commitment to diversity, innovation, and experimentation makes it a noteworthy series for RPG enthusiasts. If you're a fan of RPGs and appreciate a series that evolves with the times while staying true to its roots, exploring the world of "Shining" games is a journey well worth taking.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:10 Shining in the Darkness
0:25 Shining Force
0:35 Shining Force Gaiden
0:45 Shining Force The Sword of Hajya
0:55 Shining Force 2
1:05 Shining Force CD
1:16 Shining Force Gaiden Final Conflict
1:25 Shining Wisdom
1:34 Shining the Holy Ark
1:45 Shining Force 3
1:55 Shining Soul
2:05 Shining Soul 2
2:15 Shining Force Resurrection of the Dark Dragon
2:30 Shining Tears
2:40 Shining Force Neo
2:50 Shining Force EXA
3:00 Shining Wind
3:10 Shining Force Feather
3:37 Shining Force Cross Raid
3:48 Shining Hearts
3:58 Shining Blade
4:11 Shining Ark
4:26 Balde Arcus From Shining
4:35 Shining Resonance
4:46 Blade Arcus From Shining EX
4:55 Blade Arcus From Shining Battle Arena
5:05 Shining Resonance Refrain
5:15 Blade Arcus Rebellion From Shining
5:29 End Screen
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Thanks for this upload. Pretty awesome!
Good video, kinda depressing that shining force gassed out in the genesis/Saturn era. Just a crappy mortal combat now. 😓
Are these games even at all related story wise anymore?
@@joshua9832 Anything after the Saturn isn't considered part of the original continuity, with the exception of "Resurrection of Dark Dragon" on the GBA, which is a remake of Shining Force for the Mega Drive. The other games are just kind of their own thing, regardless of if they tie to each other or not.
One timestamp error in description.
First Shining Resonance version is at 4:35, not 4:25.
It’s like watching a childhood friend become an addict and destroy his own life. Rip shining force
The feels man, the feels.
@@shine400 that was the only game i beated, besides the first shining soul, no idea they were connected in same way xd
Sonic Software Planning became Camelot Software Planning. They developed the GBA RPG Series Golden Sun or Mario Golf RPG and Mario Tennis. Their development and recent years has slowed down though. (Only 2 games on switch). That's the reason for the drop in quality of the Shining Games, the main developer is no longer working on it and also the classic games are no longer in the memories of the gaming audience. Sega thinks they have more success with action rpgs and the Otaku market. I think they are wrong though, classic SRPGs still sell if down right, which can be seen by Fire Emblems recent successes. Sega is missing out bringing a SF3 or SthA port or sequel.
@@matthias4037 I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
I haven't played Shining Force, which game do you mean?
Look how they massacred my boy...
My thoughts exactly...
Lol, like you've played all of them
Somebody know how to use the shining source?
@@danielfranciscoarias2341 yes
@@kurisu3000 like anybody asked
I feel like I just attended a funeral.
How Shining went from an amazing tactics rpg, to a fighting game.
More like how it became a doujinshi franchise hahahah
After Camelot left they just threw darts on the wall hoping shit would stick
Often the best, become the worst. - Sun Tzu
@@retrohero2762 they threw shit on the wall hoping it would stick.
Sad indeed, gotta update it with the new game coming out that is similar to the original shining force. Hope it does well.
I miss the magic of old school RPGs....
Me too buddy, me too. The latest games I played that made me feel that was Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Nier:Automata.
@@Retronomicon you should play dragon quest 11. Amazing game and it has a good nostalgic feel to it
I recommend you the Divinity Original Sin Saga (play it with a friend on 1 console\Pc), you will revive that old magic.
@@angelmagno4678 I played those games, they were great. Divinity Original Sin 2 was incredible. I can't wait until Balder's Gate 3 is done and hopefully a new Divinity Game will come out.
Take a look on Fire Emblem Three Houses, it's very good too
The series has had its ups and downs, but there's one thing that can't be denied: the world needs Shining Force.
I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
It really saddens me that so many great Rpg franchises with turn based combat and/or tactical combat become real time action games over time. I hear a lot of people say that the genres have become outdated, which isn't a possibility. Genres can't become outdated, but peoples tastes can change and I have heard many people say this is due to the instant gratification people say they prefer these days.
Shining force, final fantasy & phantasy star as of now are nothing what they once were. I understand that things need to evolve over time as not become stale, but completely changing the gameplay, genre and appeal that what made itself so beloved in the first place baffles me beyond belief.
Tell that to the followers of Fire Emblem, they sure do enjoy the game still. EA said the same thing about single player games with good story being obsolete. Then they made That Jedi game and was one of their best sellers. With the state of gaming right now, I don't think any of these companies know what gamers actually want.
@@Retronomicon I'm sure they do, but they try to _tell_ us that's not what _we_ want so they can make the most profit off of the least amount of effort. They all want GTA online so they can have one game that makes them mountains of money for five years straight. So frustrating.
I want to see truly tactical real time games.
@@nullpoint3346 for that you want the niche of the niche. I'd recommend multiwinia for a pure tactics RTS.
It's not that's it's evolving,i see what you mean,but one thing is that as long as it still "FEELS" like the game,that's all that matters,no?
I miss when Camelot used to make rpg games, truly Golden Sun feels like a spiritual successor of that times when Cameloft used to make the Shining saga, but now Golden Sun is also dead, so..
Yes Buddy, Now a days it is all about "Waifus" or whatever. I remember hearing about shining resonance and was very excited to play it, until I saw that it wasn't shining force or anything close to it. I don't even know what it is any more, feels like Resident Evil.
They never recovered from their outing on the DS. For shame! We were even supposed to get new elements too...
@@hitkid2456 I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
Love the art/designs of the original series, it had such a charm to it, the new one lacks severely, as it looks generic. I'd love to make a strategy game, inspired by both Shining Force, and Final Fantasy Tactics.
You're off to a good start there. Both games are probably the best in the series. I hope for a Final Fantasy Tactics 2 one day, a real sequel, not the gameboy advance version which were very disappointing.
@@Retronomicon Yeah it was pretty disappointing. :(
Same happens to anime... 90s art style was far better than what we have today...
Triangle strategy is a close marriage
@@jcdenton6577 I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
I'd love to see a new Shining Force, like the classic Strategy Games. After all, we recently got Streets Of Rage 4.
Me and my brother recently cooped it on xbox live through the GamePass. It was short and simple but fun while it lasted.
Dark Deity is out now
Do you know about the mobile game
@@mrbagel6715 I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
This is the evolution of the Shining series, not Shining Force. Still pretty cool.
Yeah, but I hate calling it the "Shining Series" because it really should've been Shining Force all the way. Now I don't really know what it is, but it sells. The Waifu craze is eating up all our old games. Look at Phantasy Star and my Evolution of Lufia video has like 4 vids, it is a sad state of affairs with gaming now-a-days.
@@Retronomicon I'm two months late to this reply lol, but... YES! I also think the shining series has went down hill. the Force series was amazing and I hope maybe one day we get a remake of 3, or all 6 games in the force series.. hell... even a port to steam would be nice, or switch for portability. but that is wishful thinking. I'll agree it does feel very waifu-y now and that's a bad thing for fans.
@@MiBrCo4177 I support you and I hope more than that, to make Shining Force to be mobile tactics online game like Langrisser Mobile game...
@@Kaiseran_Games then it will be more waifu craze lol
Yeah I still loves the Shining In The darkness And also shining force 1 and Shining Force 2 and maybe Shining Force CD But truly I loved The others they were like a true noble adventure of rpg I still don't see games like those today I am also big fan of Sega Genesis. But I wish there were games like that today Shining Force was a legendary game to me.🙂😌💯👍💪
I only played Shining Force 1 and 2 , but after seeing all the successors, I played the "right" games. Especially Shining Force 2 was glorious ! Maybe the random lv-ups weren´t great but it wasn´t a problem back then.
For me it´s very sad, that turn based strategy games have devolutioned. The gaming world has become kinda onesided. We had more variety back in the 90s.
The only other one I have played is Sword Of Hajya, but I really want to play CD, Final Conflict and III (in spite of the early polygonal nature of the graphics). Maybe some of the other Saturn ones, too.
@@hitkid2456 They're all really, really good. Only way to play some of them in English is through emulation, but FC and III were never released outside of Japan, and there are English patches online
@@hitkid2456 Final Conflict in particular does a really amazing job of connecting SF1 and SF2 and somehow even though it's gamegear, feels a bit more modern than both of them in some ways
I always wished I could have had 3 to play (even owned a Saturn, but never found the game) but 1 & 2 are two of my most cherished classics.
@@mateobean6635 Emulate 3. There are english patches and it's the ONLY WAY YOU WILL EVER PLAY IT
I played Shining Force: The Sword of Hajya on the 3DS, and it was the first SF game I ever beat. It was very fun, but I was sad to see that they don't make SF games in the tactical RPG style anymore. It's crazy to me-with how great Nintendo has done with the Fire Emblem series, you'd think these big companies would at least try to tap into that market with their own similar games, but FE remains without any major competitors. Incredible how one game (Awakening) just exploded in popularity and elevated a series that normally would've been extremely niche. Still... I'd love to see more effort from other companies.
Waifus sell more copies unfortunately. There have been tries at getting some of these older games back as remakes years back, one example is the Phantasy Star series, it was great and it didn't sell enough though. I wouldn't even mind if they just made a Shining Force Waifu game, just give me something resembling the original games.
@@Retronomicon By "waifu," do you mean how you can form romantic relationships between playable characters? If so, FE Echoes didn't have that and it is a beautiful game, so I think a Shining Force remake (or new) could really work if they see what's worked for FE and promote it as an alternative to an already-popular genre.
But who knows, because Langrisser was brought back last year and I don't think it's taken off as much as they hoped. I guess all of this is just wishful thinking 🤔😂 Oh well.
@@megamaniscoolrightguys2749 I meant by how lots of game developers/publishers are turning to making games with many good looking female characters that you recruit or create via character creation. It works and I don't really mind too much if the games kinda didn't deviate so much from their origins. Langrisser was great, got the remake with Original Artwork on (the new art was ghastly). Growlanser Generations is another good series.
@@Retronomicon The problem with those PS remakes were that they were budget titles. Just look at the quality of several of the tracks from the OSTs. And that lack of effort got them back in kind. Because of that, the PSIV remake never happened.
@@megamaniscoolrightguys2749to be fair, Echoes didn't sell well (because it was released when the 3DS was being phased out in favor of the switch) and I'm almost certain IS took it as a "clearly people want more marriage in their games"
I just can't believe why would they ruin such a beautiful series of my childhood 😞
The GOOD Shining Force games were made by Sonic Software Planning who later became Camelot and made Golden Sun and now make Mario sports games
You'll probably never see another GOOD OG Shining Force game unless they get CAMELOT to work on it
@@THEGREATMAX Exactly 💯
yeah... i dont know all after the shinning force 2, the hell it become fighting game?@!
@@orangeslash1667 just checked the review, it looks better 👍🏻
@@THEGREATMAX I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
Strangely enough, Landstalker is a part of the Shining Universe... Kayla, the lady chasing you, is the the herbs dealer from Shining in the Darkness while her two minions are monsters from the underground.
I beg to differ that the downfall of the Shining series was to wander into Hack and Slash or ARPG. I think the main problem was that Shining series lost their special identity and universe. Let's say that Sega management of their IP during the downfall of the Saturn is one of the factor.
Yes, I remember playing Landstalker on the genesis as a kid and thinking about the connections. I agree with your assessment, it isn't that the other games are bad games, they just don't seem like shining force games or shining series games. I didn't feel much of a connection. I think they were going with the Final Fantasy idea of every game being its own story, but there are many connections with the original games in that series. I just don't feel that when I play the newer shining games.
And what about Dark Savior? 🧐
@@AldorleaGames Dark Savior is not a sequel of Landstalker even though they might share few specificities in view, gameplay and ideas.
@@Leynx-Et-Fenrir I know it's pretty different but I remember it being considered a sequel, still.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Savior
"It was referred to by GameSpot as a sequel to the developer's game for the Sega Mega Drive/Genesis, Landstalker: The Treasures of King Nole,[1] even though the games' storylines are unrelated and their gameplay is considerably different."
@@AldorleaGames Be careful, Gamespot considers Dark Savior as a sequel to Landstalker but it is not considered as such by Climax
It's such a shame that attention spans aren't a thing anymore.
Turn-based RPGs were a lot of fun.
I agree on both ends. I would like the stories and seriousness of the older games, but I will take the newer ideas for a faster way to do turn-based rpgs. Final Fantasy 7 Remake was a good example of having your cake and eating it too.
I don't see how having something be turn based on action has anything to do with attention span.
@@creaturetransylvania8943 It doesn't. That was just a dumb comment blaming people, not style, for the "death" of something that's just not as popular anymore.
As long as it has good catchy music and very little grinding and fun special abilities I'm playing the game with turn based battles
@@creaturetransylvania8943 decreased attention spans means that people no longer have the patience to wait their turn. The fact that you needed that basic concept spelled out for you strongly suggests that you are part of the problem.
The moment Tony Taka took charge, that's when the Dark Days began.
he should draw for eroges again
I heard Shining Force compared to Fire Emblem so I decided to check it out because I love FE games. I’m really sad to see that they gave up on the tactics RPG genre when they did.
I first got into the series with Shining Force II. I also really enjoyed Neo and Exa as well.
Damn shining force 1 and 2 were so good, the last decent thing they made was force feather, it actually has nice combat and returns to the roots of the series, but it never made it outside japan, there's no english version available wich is a shame
3 was pretty good too. I know it looks like hot rotten garbage since 3d graphics age really bad, but it is still pretty good. Long Live the 2D though.
Shinimg soul 1 and 2?
@@shaolinmatadordeporco6656 He was talking about the Shining Force Games. Shining Soul is ok, but very different from the originals.
@@Retronomicon I think he's talking about the Shining series in general.
SS may not be TRPG, but it was one of the best things they have done. I think remaking the game with better animations (but not forcing 3D through our throats) and better colors would de pretty good.
And this is coming from someone who started with the first 2 SF games back in the 90ties.
@@thanatos8618 I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
I had no idea there were fighting games in this franchise
Yeah, it really went off the rails.
Degradation (((
Sadly, Yes.
Wow i didnt even know there were so many Shining games, i only ever played 1, 2 and EXA
Shining Force II is my favorite RPG ever made, It blends the complexity of an RPG with the simplicity of chess, bringing cute anime and classic strategy together. X-com did the same thing around the same time but removed the cutesy anime and replaced it with Mature comic-book style artwork, replaced magic & blacksmith weapons with Psionic powers & sci-fi weaponry, and made the game strategy warfare. Mario & rabbids is the closest thing we'll have in the modern day for tactical RPGs, but Shining Force II is the best. I still replay it over & over once a year with new characters & taking different promotion paths, which there are so many that most players will never play with the exact same combinations.
I see that many people miss the old “Shining Force” titles as much as I do. SF 2 was the favorite game of my childhood, so I found some similar series, that I want to share with you:
- "Fire Emblem" Series. If you don't have Switch, "Three Houses" is emulated quite well on Yuzu. Many consider "Awakening" to be the best title in the series, but you need a powerful PC to emulate the 3DS on "Citra" emulator without lags. You can also try older titles "Path of Radiance" and "Radiant Dawn" on the Dolphin emulator.
- "Dragon Quest" series, espesially the last title "Echoes of an Elusive Age". It's a traditional JRPG (without tactics), but the moment you run it, you immediately get a sense of the same atmosphere as in Shining Force 1-2. Story, characters, dialogues, music - everything here is reminiscent of SF! SF can be seen as a cross between two series - atmosphere and world exploration as in Dragon Quest and tactical battles as in Fire Emblem.
- Legend of Heroes - Trails in the Sky FC & SC. It's also a traditional JRPG (not tactical), but unlike Dragon Quest, you can move characters around the field, so tactics are important here, especially in the later parts of the game. The most important thing is the atmosphere and the story, fans of "retro" JRPGs should be very pleased!
- Legend of Heroes - Trails of Zero, Trails of Azure. There’s a fan translation, the games are completely playable. I finished both of them, which took me about 150 hrs. I didn't really like “Trails in the Sky 3rd” and the whole “Trails of Cold Steel” saga though. Too repetitive.
- "Valkyria Chronicles" series. These are some of the best japanese tactical games. I should note that 2nd and 3rd parts can be run on the PSP emulator.
- "Sakura Taisen" (Sakura Wars) series (except the last title - SW 2019, which is a slasher). The series is also developed by Sega. It was very popular in Japan in the late 90's and early 2000's. Only «SW So Long My Love» is officially published in English. «Wii» version runs better on the "Dolphin" emulator than PS2 version on "PCSX2". Also a fan translation of the first SW game for PC (1996) was recently released.
- "Langrisser" series. The 1990s originals are better than the recently released remake. They made the gameplay in the remake very casual, and visually it's not expressive.
- Nintendo "Wars" series. Developed by the same company as Fire Emblem. A remake "Advance Wars 1+2: Re-Boot Camp" should be coming to Switch soon.
- "Wargroove" - indie strategy from developers of Starbound, inspired by Advance wars,
- Banner Saga series - story driven western indie tactical RPG with beautiful art style from ex-Bioware members
- "Wuxia" series - chinese games based on fiction about kung fu school,
- Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children - south korean indie tactical RPG which combines anime style and XCOM gameplay mechanics,
- "Lord Monarch" (Sega Genesis version). It has a very different gameplay (real time strategy, not turn based), but this gameplay is completely unique! It was one of my favourite games on Genesis. Despite it's real time, tactics is the key to success here, not the reaction rate. The game was developed by Falcom - creators of "Legend of Heroe"s and "Ys". Fan english translation has been finished in the last year. There are also versions for PC, SNES and PSX, but they are worse.
Haven't played these games yet, but they look promising:
- Symphony of War: The Nephilim Saga,
- Banner of the Maid,
- Dungeon Of Naheulbeuk.
Thanks the for the list buddy. I love the Fire Emblem Series and plan to make an evolution video of that one eventually. It kept well to its roots. I've seen the Legend of Heroes series pop up so I have to try that one. Valkyria is definitely great and I remember playing Sakura Wars back in the day. I have to try some of your other mentions, definitely a good list of games to recommend to people who like the Shining Force games. I will also add Langrisser to that, I enjoyed that series as well.
@@Retronomicon Thanks for a reminder about Langrisser. Also I have added some new games to the list
My favorite Shining is Shining soul 2 I played it when I was still a kid and I keep replaying it from time to time since then
My god we really went off the rails. I had no idea how bad it got.
Ahh yes, shining force II
When i was a kid this was really one of the best games i ever played
It was punishing (the first fight where you only have sarah, chester and MC aka bowie).
Then you get
Jaha (my favorite cute axe guy)
Kiwi (i once thought he was a turtle throwing his shell at the enemy but turned out he was a fire breathing dragon??)
Slade (was always referencing him because he showed first in the intro)
Peter (sucks you can't control it at first)
Then some characters i forgot
A mage in brown suit (ivan i think?)
A knight girl (may?) And a guy one
An archer a male and a female
A centaur archer?
I forgot many of them, but the fun of advancing them to class, knowing that my MC has another class advance after him being a hero or some sort. And others turned badass like chester flying pegasus style or jaha being a badass with bigger axe :D
I love it, I still own it in box. It is one of the best games made and since it is in 2d it ages very very well. Slade becomes a beast as a ninja and Sarah as a monk is unstoppable. Many good memories with it.
Mage in the Brown Suit: Kazin (fire, then death spells)
May was the centaur archer.
The archers were Elric and Janet (I had to look those two up here sf2.shiningforcecentral.com/characters/shining-force-ii/).
Peter becomes absolutely OP later.
I loved how you could evolve every character to a new class at level 20 and you had a choice to make with regards to their new class. Picking a new one meant completely changing their stats, weapons used, sprite and abilities. It was so satisfying levelling little tort to level 20 and he transforms into a flying fire breathing monster. Or turning Slade, the mobile but weak thief, into a freaking ninja.
Shining Force EXA was probably my favorite since it’s my first JRPG back in the ps2.
great video. My brother and sisters, let's mourn for everything from Shining inD to Force 3
Honestly, I've completely forgotten Shining force 2 until just recently, but the main overworld Soundtrack was stuck in my head for at least 2 decades
Oh how the Shining series has fallen.
Put Moogie in charge and it will come back to life.
Yeap, Now I don't even know what it is. It has little to nothing to do with the series at this point. Most disappointing.
I used to use Shining force Central so much!
I came here because I thought it would be cool to see how my favorite two Shining Force games grew up to be in modern times.
Boy was I disappointed.
Oh, boy. It seems the Shining series kept changing to "whatever is selling at the moment".
Feather looks so good. Keeping the tactics but making the battle interactive is awesome
Thanks I wish for more of these legendary games.
I’m about to start the Shining Force series on my PI. I’m excited to finally play the Sega CD game as I missed out on that console entirely.
I played the Shining soul games on the GBA, loved them to death. I was aware of the shining force series but i had no idea they were connected, here's another chance to check them out. Again the constant name changes makes it so hard to know what's what, they actually did a continuation to the action rpg games, i always wondered if they ever did, and i totally missed out on them because the names were different... i gotta check out those fighters though, i love fighting games, if they have enough depth i might actually like them.
There are lots of videos on youtube with people showing the gameplay of the fighting games. It's not bad really, seems they tried to actually make it with some quality.
Unfortunately... I think they didn't continue to make more games like Soul subseries. Only crappy messy 3D action RPG games with trash gameplay.
I would love if they come back with Soul series, without forcing them into 3D, but with a bit of improvement on those animations and pixel arts.
@@thanatos8618shining soul 2 with updated sprites and remastered backgrounds, maybe with a couple new attacks and slightly upscaled item icons…instant masterpiece. Would have such a strong although niche audience. The game is so simple in the best way.
@@calebfoley5872 I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
Dang. This was more depressing than i thought it would be.
I never knew that the shining series continued after 2. I only knew about shining force CD after that. I never knew that the series went so downhill. Like why even bother making these weird games that do not connect to the story of 1 and 2.
The thing that also made in my opinion shing force 1 so good was how music connected whith the emotion of the story. Since art was done so well I really felt like I was there on battle field as commander MAX.
I am actually thinking of recreating 1 as an MMO. I always thought about battling other players since shining force felt like sort of chess game to me.
Talk about a massive identity crisis after 1998. I just can't believe that given Nintendo's success with Fire Emblem the past decade, SEGA never bothered returning to the SRPG roots that truly made this series shine.
I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
@@orangeslash1667 oh that is definitely on my wishlist 😎
Love the originals for genesis. Shining Resonance Refrain isn't too terrible either
I just suscribed, greetings from MÉXICO
Greetings buddy.
they just died since 2004, but before this it was one of the best rpgs
Agreed, it became something far far different.
I think it's cool that the series isn't tied down to one genre. It makes it unique imo. I'd love for Sega to release a compilation of every game one day.
I never played Shining Force until recently with a GBA Shining Force Ressurection of the Dark Dragon. I love it and enjoy it, but seeing the devolution of turn-base RPG for this franchise is sad. On the bright side, thanks to indie studios and individuals for keeping the Turn base RPG genre alive.
I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
Never knew this series was this big... I remember hearing that Shining Tears was related to Shining Force... but gameplay-wise I just can't see it. I love shining tears though
I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
hi great compilation! if only u can mention what is the platform available for each game
Shining Force 1, 2 and Shining Soul 2 are my favorites. I still remember playing Shining Force 1 in 2004 when I was a primary school student.
I loved EXA and NEO (PS2). From that point an on, the series definitely got in the wrong direction
Started from Shining Force EXA, one of the most difficult but lots of elements to it. I just hope the developers brings back that element instead of a fighting game
I hope so too.
This is such a crime, seeing such a unique series with a diverse and likeable world and cast of characters devolve into a safe and uninspired JRPG that does nothing new or interesting. Also, the series had so much potential for a fighting game, with TONS of awesome characters they could have pulled from, and all the game has are humans, humans, humans and, oh look, ONE anthro! And it's a really generic and uncanny looking anthro, too.
Use to play shining force 2 in my 3rd grade. Time sure flies.....
They had massive success with Shining Force games on the Genesis. I don't know why they ever turned away from making the Strategy RPGS. Not only that, but it seems like the games lost character and became increasingly generic. It seems like many of the JRPGS became increasingly feminine and lost any real appeal outside of Japan. Most people really don't want to see these cutesy female heroes that are barely clothed and overly feminine men that look like they belong in a KPOP boy band. And then they wonder why these newer games don't sell. Looking at this video, it seems like there were three generations of Shining Games. The first one from the Genesis up through the Saturn which all look pretty good. The Saturn wasn't the most successful console and that probably had something to do with it. Then there is the GBA and PS2 Generation where they cranked out lots of games. It seems like they were losing their way in this generation but were still pretty appealing. They mostly abandoned the SRPG formula. Then we come to the point where they seem to have completely lost their way with the arcade fighting games and lower quality generic looking games from the PSP and PS3 generation onward. They need to get back to their roots!
Shining Force I and II were and still are the best I wish they had kept up with its style into this generation of gaming. I missed out on SF III. I remember seeing Shining Force EXA for PS2 and I was stoked until I put in the machine. I was like WTF is this? I still beat the game but it didn't offer what I was hoping it would.
Same, except I beat Neo instead. It was pretty bad. EXA at least had a few good moments, and a little more effort put into it.
Bom video, amigo. 👍
Thank you sir.
Ill be dead cold and buried before i recognize Shining Resonance as apart of my favorite RPG series
It is definitely a departure that's for sure.
Used to play shining force neo without knowing the series, also the Plin Plin Plon man, Gwyn has such a OP OST
This series jumped the shark and then just kept going for like 20 more games
For me it's just Shining Force 1 & 2, and I played EXA a bit few years ago. I'll try the Game Gear and GBA ones these days, but the best ones will always be the classic ones (including the other Shining videogames, yes.)
Ressurection dark dragon is the best. We need turnbased rpg system back
Definitely, I think some are coming back in the Indie scene.
Still if troubles me to this day why did they not localize Shining Blade and Shining Ark for the psp, they were standard jrpg stories and linear, but they were good, truly regrettable. Always the good games that fans will love are left in the dark, always. But we always get the games we never asked for or even cared to have, weird world.
80s/90s anime character design was so much better. In the later games, all characters look the same.
Agreed, I still watch a lot of the older stuff to catch up on what I missed. It had a different feel to it. It wasn't called the Golden Age for nothing.
So many are so different after the main Shining Force games. Well after Shining in the Darkness and the Tactical games. Its almost as if they are completely different games. Didn't even know there was fighting games to the series.
this saga is excellent really !
Shining Soul 2 is one of the best GBA titles I've played. It has a lot of improvement from Shining Soul 1.
Fast pace gameplay, great mechanics, different equipment builds, a lot of optional dungeons, and shitton of secrets.
Then Shining Tears happen, WTF? Why is this game a lot shittier than Shining Soul 2 almost in every way?
Yeah, they've never been consistent, that's for sure.
The final nail in the coffin would look like a mobile gatcha battle royale with "seasonal" battle passes. Oh, God.
It's funny how a long RPG series gets a fighting game just to see if it sticks.
I knew about this series because of Shining Hearts and its anime but too bad they never localized it.
Loved the Shining Hearts anime adaptation, Shining Hearts: Shiawase no Pan (The Bread of Happiness). The original game was released on PSP in 2010 but never got a western release. The anime was released in 2012. The anime is slow paced and mostly follows the protagonist baking bread although there is an overarching story. It's not a popular series but i thought it was charming.
I was not expecting PLIN PLIN PLON to hit me at the end.
It hits everyone in the end. Gotta keep that flame burning.
Shining Force 1 reminds me of Phantasy Star. And Shining the holy ark looks cool for it's time, dope battle theme too.
In Memoriam My Childhood play Shining Force 1 and 2 in Sega. Also Shining Force Resurection, the story very lovely. I hope Dev can create gameplay back to Shining Force 2 and similar like 😭😭😭
Shining Force Neo was my favorite PS2 game of all time
I need to play that one some more. After the shining force series, I played extremely little of the other spin offs.
there being more Action RPG entries for the Shining series makes sense, seeing as Shining in the Darkness was what started the series as a dungeon crawler, but seeing the most recent entries are fighting games just make me confused. Are fighting games *that* popular?
I just think that at this point, they are just throwing in anything they can think of since they kinda lost their identity. Waifus always work though.
1:56 That is the character in golden sun tla special room of cut-content using the Action Replay, wow, finally I found it out
00:10 the Wise One of golden sun?
Add 2021 to the continued evolution with a mobile shining force game announced a few days ago.
Will do, saw the trailer, really cool.
Ugh... this hurts my soul so bad. It grabbed a gameplay identity the moment Shining Force 1 was made and the ones that followed soon after. But then they just... made it something else entirely, and when that didn't work, they resorted to essentially "selling sex" that had NOTHING to do with gameplay that made it famous to begin with. Shining Force lost its 'soul' when it turned into a beat 'em up game. SF1 was my very first game, and ultimately, the game that hooked me into a string of SRPGs and RPGs going forward to this day. Can't stress enough how much of an impact all the games that came after helped to shape my moral compass and love for actual story over... whatever the fuck this mess is.
Shining Waifus sell more unfortunately.
They didn't know what to do with the franchise.. it's so sad
Wow, Ddin´t know there we´re so many shining games.
The only ones I´ve played through are the Shining in the darkness and Shining force 2. Quite funny, shining in the darkness was one of my first games and english isn´t even my native language so playing it through as a 10 year old kid was hard as heck.
If you like tactical RPGs, give Tears To Tiara II a chance on PS3. It doesn't exist on PS4, but it's a great tactical game. I had a lot of fun with it. The menu equipment menu and party management alone was fun, let alone the actual battles. It really demands your wisdom! Great game.
And the PSP is probably full of these tactical games. Maaan, I must fix my PSP.
Shining force, shining force 2,shining force resurrection of dark dragon best. I'd throw rest away... No hack n slash for me.
Agreed, I still enjoy the other games, but I hunger for Shining Force.
Go for shining force 3 and you will see what SF has to offer best
Shining Force 3 is in my top 5 games of all time. It sucks we can’t get a remake
Its graphic and animation is so shit
Dude...how? I look at the videos of SF3 and the only thing I get is...sorry... disgusted. Idk htf they turned those beautiful arts of SF1, 2 and CD into...that. Look at Capcom...they took that art from BoF 1 and 2 and thought "lets make it even more beautiful"...and they did it with 3 and 4. The 5 one wasn't that bad...just the game itself is not anywhere near the level of the 2 previous ones.
@@thanatos8618 you should try to play SF3, the story is really well done, split into 3 games, gameplay is better then the old shining forces, such underrated game. To me is also up there on the best games that i have ever played.
Should add the mobile game which pretty much brought it back to its roots no global yet though.
*sigh. Things went downhill when the Shining franchise shifted from strategy RPG to action RPG...fans love the lore, story and gameplay of the older games and just getting the "Shining" title does not mean it will turn out great...I hope they did a remake of the Shining Force strategy games really. I think it is about time really...
I will say Neo and EXA were actually pretty fun. Not really what I want when I play a Shining Force game but they were fun.
@@ADeatonic I recommend Unicorn Overlord, its strategy RPG published by Sega.
@@orangeslash1667 if they'd ever put their games on PC I'd be all over it.
things really went downhill after the sega saturn... what the fuck...
Yeap
I need a game like shinning force 1-2, I tried disgaea but felt it was too wild , closest thing was final fantasy tactics which was awesome but that was like 20 years ago , please help
You can try Shining Force 3 on the saturn, or look up Tactics Ogre which is very similar to Final Fantasy Tactics.
I played sf3, I even played a more recent version that was fully translated for all 3 parts , not the same although it was ok , I wish they would remake part 3 in 1&2 format
@@alexmambo606 Yeah, prefer the 2d animations over the dated 3d stuff. I think to remember that some people have made a romhack of shining force 2 with some new story and characters you can get.
Fire Emblem is closest thing to Shining Force but it’s a bit more on the anime side unfortunately.
Edit: there’s also the Golden Sun series which involve one of the game designers from SF1 for some of the games in the series.
@@baboon_baboon_baboon True, at least it still stays true to most of it's origins. When you see a Fire Emblem game coming, chances are good that it is a Strategy RPG. Shining Force, who knows, it's a very mixed bag at this point, but it will definitely have lots of Waifus.
I can't believe I 9 year old know playing shining force 1
Good games are just good.
Looking to buy the shining resonance it’s the only game on current systems sooo…also I’m surprised not more ppl talk about shining in the darkness j was amazed to discover such a great game it’s basically tied to shining force and has darksol in it.
Great game for sure, any of the older games I would recommend whole heartily.
We need Shining Force SLG ！
Devolution from what I've seen of late.
Across the industry unfortunately. Coming from the Golden Age of Anime, Games, and Movies, I find myself playing older games or watching older Media since a lot of the new stuff is Main Stream nonsense. The Main Stream is where ideas go to die.
It’s evolving… just backwards
I played shining force EXA first then the Shining force 1&2 even though the first 2 were great I think EXA is great wish they just named it differently and made it a stand alone series
Shining force stopped after 3 in 1998. I dont recognize any of these weird titles afterwards. wish they would go back to the original formula
Same :(
Thanks for making this. So basically it seems to me like Shining Force EXA is the last good game in the series.. anyone concur?
Yeah, things have definitely gone down hill thats for sure.
as a fighting game, blade arcus is a good game 😗
@@user-xg5lg2pm5n It is, I like it. But it really has little to do with it's origins, I don't even think it has anyone from the original series. I guess maybe there is some licensing or copyright issues with the old games and why the new stuff is nothing like what the Shining Series used to be.
agree
What entering a experimental phase and not being Sonic does to a mf
We went from a turn-based rpg, to a tactical rpg, to what’s either a Mana-esc rpg or a beat-’em-up…to a fighting game? How the hell?
Just finished shining force 1 and 2 on switch service great games was worth the play through
1 through 3 are the best in the series in my opinion. They are great, I only wish the rest of the series didn't abandoned that formula. There is also Shining Force CD and of course a couple of more games in the same vain of those games.
This series really did peak at Shining the Holy Ark
Man i miss the gameplay of SF1 and 2. The only thing I can say is nice about the new ones is that Tony Taka art style(Old style was still nice though). If they would go back to their roots for gameplay and keep the modern art style I would be happy. Hell even a remake of the old games with the Tony art style would probably make bank and give old and new players something to enjoy.