FURTHER COMMENTS Occasionally Clake owners have trouble bleeding the system. It is critical to get rid of every last air bubble. Watch their entire installation vid and follow their tips for removing those last air bubbles. ruclips.net/video/8KXwMKiT6mw/видео.html A cheap bleeding kit makes a big difference too. Still having problems? Clake have the following tips: Back off all the force balance assistance by winding the Gold Knob anticlockwise just until you can feel some longitudinal play in the adjuster shaft. Then with the reservoir lid on, loosen the handle bar clamp bolts slightly and rotate the lever up about 45 degrees on the bars. Then cable tie the lever to the bars, leave it like this overnight then in the morning cut the cable tie whilst the unit is still in this position. Then pull the lever in slowly about 10mm then release quickly, repeat at least 6 times. Servicing? Generally Clake suggests you may want service your Clake at around the three year mark. They can do this for you. Alternatively parts and sub-assemblies are available through the website. Two of our guys have used them for six years now with no servicing and zero problems. These are quality bits of kit. On a budget? There are cheaper ways to reduce clutch pull up to 30%. See this video: ruclips.net/video/ydZyFR-iDWc/видео.html But if chronic arm or medical problems like arthritis and tendonitis demand more, then get up to 75% reduced clutch pull with the Clake. OVER 100 FREE ENDURO TRAINING VIDS English not your first language? Subtitles in 30+ languages! Basic enduro skills playlist bit.ly/3BtOVyI Intermediate enduro skills playlist bit.ly/3HSkh4r Advanced enduro skills playlist bit.ly/3oNNeqF BIKE SETUP & RIDING GEAR Bike setup playlist: bit.ly/3sBar0i Protective gear playlist: bit.ly/34BYDTI Which bike should I buy? bit.ly/3gLTJG1 Knee protection playlist bit.ly/36fR4Cw OUR OTHER PLAYLISTS Reviews of bikes & products bit.ly/3GQCVrO All about helmets bit.ly/3sJxIgy Enduro philosophy! bit.ly/33meQeV 10 ways to hop logs bit.ly/3JqlOPx The weird side of enduro! bit.ly/3Js1ai2 Read our disclaimer first before attempting any techniques: bit.ly/2U0bgCy Become a supporter! www.crosstrainingenduro.com/cross-training-support-donations.html
Old topic but I just took out my Rekluse and installed the One light clutch on my Husky 501. After a few rides I really like it. After finding the right setting I rarely stall and its easy to modulate the clutch for traction. Fatigue and cramps is no longer an issue.
that's what i found too peter, especially once i set the lever in fairly close to the bars.... it's so easy to slip the clutch it's become more of an instinct now so i rarely stall the bike nowadays
I made my own by mounting the original clutch further in and hose clamping a 3", 1/4" extension onto it along with an assist spring that helps pull the lever into the bar. The assist spring isn't strong enough to engage the clutch, but takes some weight off of it. Along with the xtra leverage I would say it's 50% lighter. 100hrs later and its friggin AWESOME. Cost me nothing and now I can ride with one finger. Now I just need to ghetto fix my own rear brake lever as well.
This Clake setup looks like it may help with my arm pump and tennis elbow problem. Currently I use a Rekluse core 3.0 but still use the clutch manually for extra control in difficult areas. As the arm pump builds or my tennis elbow becomes too painful, I let the Rekluse take over. This was never a problem 25 years ago. Getting old sucks donkey dink.
I use the 'The Righteous Stunt Clutch' (cable actuated). It has a leverage point that reduces the pull by about 50% It's quite a bit cheaper than The One. You should have a look. A lighter clutch, no matter the system, IS a total game changer, for sure!
AWESOME CLUTCH !!! I've been using the Clake one light clutch for over a year. Awesome device. I actually trimmed and sanded the aluminium outer bulge of the lever so to never have anything hitting my other fingers when pulling it in.
strange, yotobo... he says he hasn't had any request for this info. here it is. "part numbers are 150.00.596C for Brake fluid and 853005MO0 for mineral oil. both are now braktec parts but they are the same as AJP, I would try AJP America or GasGas"
finally ordered one for my KTM 500 ECX, not many of my 2-wheeled buddies are familiar with Clake brand so I hope I start a trend among the sport bike stutter groups and my endure peeps
hopefully won't take long jesse, ever since they took off internationally they've had delays of 2 to 8 weeks in filling orders. if it's taking a while you can try emailing them but they get very slow on replies when they are busy... better off ringing then, even if it's an international call.
Emailed Clake over a week ago inquiring about the OLC. Crickets even after two followup emails. If they can't even answer a simple question, I'd hate to have to rely on them for tech or parts support.
That's a shame to hear things haven't improved. I've had quite a few customers contact me saying they could never get the Clake guys to answer emails... and I passed on these messages. They just said it's best if customers ring directly between 8am to 9am before they hit the factory floor. But this is unfair for overseas customers. 😢
@@crosstrainingenduro Exactly. The OLC is already very expensive without adding an overseas call to the bill. I'm thinking to just pull the trigger on a Rekluse and be done with it. :-)
My Clake arrived last week and I was able to get out for a test ride with it this past weekend. Here is my take on it. The pros; As someone with both tennis and golfer’s elbow problems, I had hoped it would help to minimize some of the problems that come from those conditions. In simple terms it has helped with the golfer’s elbow since use of the pointer and middle fingers affect it most. The clutch is now so easy to pull you barely notice it. Freeing up the middle finger to aid in gripping the bars is also helpful. Easing the strain on the fingers is an incredible help for me. I call it a win. The cons: The end of the lever has an odd shaped ball on it. It doesn’t allow the lever to come all the way in to the bar. The ball stops the lever about 10mm away from the bar. This means that the lever has to be positioned with a start point 10mm further away. If you buy size small or medium gloves, you may have issues trying to set the lever position within reach while still fully disengaging when pulled in. The way around this is to loosen your grip, open your hand and reach out for the lever. On a hill climb it could be a problem. Being someone with a small hand I developed a blister at the meaty part of my thumb from opening and closing my hand because of this. The fix would simply be a slight design change for the ball end. I was going to order a second One Light Clutch for my wife's bike but we are not able to set it up to fit her smaller hand. That 10mm is just enough that we are not able to put the lever in reach of her fingers and still fully disengage the clutch when pulled all the way in.
+brass289 interesting about the ball end in your case, i'll pass that feedback on to them. i assume they have to have a ball end to meet FIM requirements for competition use but would be interesting to see if they could work in that change.
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES. I'm sure you're correct about the ball needing to be there. The real problem is with the small hands! It would be easy enough to correct at the manufacturing end to make it easier for the digitally challenged. I will email a picture to Owen to give him some details. That issue aside it is a fantastic product.
+brass289 i'm sure he'll be very interested, from the chats i've had with him he tries to make all his setups adjustable for small hands. mind you, he might not reply for a month or two as they are still snowed under with orders probably.
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES I realise my comments sound critical and not very favourable towards the Clake. That isn’t my intention. The comments are only meant to convey the issues I have due to my small hands and hopefully offer Clake some information about who uses their product and what results they have when using it. If that information turns into an improvement for the product, great. If not, perhaps it will help others with setting up their levers. I may file down the back side of the lever ball to allow more travel and adjustment. Overall, I find the clutch to be a very worthwhile investment for me and I’ll continue to use it. The increased clutch modulation alone make it worth the investment. For anyone with hand or elbow injuries, it's ease of use makes it almost a must have item.
+brass289 sounded like constructive feedback to me, brass289. i get really sore fingers after each ride (probably the early signs of arthritis) and some carpal tunnel so this clutch is an absolute godsend to me. :)
Hey mate I tried to fit it on my bike today and for some reason when u pull it in it won't come back out and does not engage the clutch what do I do and do u know what is happening
When there is air trapped in the system, you will have that issue. Be sure to fully bleed all the air out and that should correct the problem. This occurs because the spring assist in the Clake is able to compress the air trapped in the system and forces the lever towards the bar. To make bleeding easier, back out the adjustment knob on the Clake or try forcing fluid up from the slave cylinder.
interesting idea and I might have been tempted if a Rekluse clutch did not exist. For similar money I think a Rekluse clutch is a far better solution to get all the fingers on the bars.
Rike Wedderburn yep, it comes down to how far you want to take your skills. if you keep progressing at some point you need to learn manual clutch control and i had a lot of catching up to do as i'd gone backwards after two years with the rekluse... :-( but definitely caught up again fast with the trials riding.
Great review! I want one of these clutches now. Seems like all the cool enduro accessories are available in Oz, but not in the USA. You lucky dingos!!!
Peter Felten it's definitely great kit... last week i rode a bike with their pro lever setup which first disengages the clutch then goes on to apply the rear brake. sounds weird but was awesome and i reckon has so many applications i think i'll have to go for that. saving the pennies now. :-D
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES I've checked out the Clake stuff on the web before, both the One Light Clutch and the clutch brake combo setup. It made me wonder if the clutch/brake combo would make it difficult to ride other bikes after getting used to it. Risky might not be the best term, but it seems like it might not be the best idea to start using non-standard controls. The risk is probably greater the other way though---someone else riding the bike with it that *isn't* used to it getting a handful of brake when they don't mean to. At least it would be rear brake and not front. If Graham can manage to get by without it... ;o) Of course, I'm just envious in that I've never owned a bike where I could pull the clutch with one finger at all (well maybe with a bit of pain and a concerted effort with the bike off, but not in any type of actual riding scenario).
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES And what if you just want to use the clutch without braking, like we often need to in enduro riding? Also, i am quite sure that i would hit the brake accidentaly wanting to use the clutch. I like the idea of the two lever approach (rear brake and clutch on the left grip) but i can't figure the benefits of linking the clutch and the rear brake on one lever.
i'd go the clake 2 if that's a concern as you can opt for the clutch only lever. i asked chris birch what he thought of the clake stuff, he figured it would be a gimmick but really liked and said it would be very useful in extreme enduros... BUT given how much they damage their bikes he said at the top level they always opt to keep bikes as standard as possible for easy trackside repairs etc.... the old keep it simple stupid when riding at that level.
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES Recently, I picked up an 08 Honda CRF450R that has the Rekluse Core EXP 2.0 clutch installed. I must say, this made riding in the woods (hard enduro conditions) extremely easy. I know I have been a proponent in saying "using a Rekluse is cheating", but I am not so sure I can say that anymore. The only thing the Core EXP 2.0 does as far as I can tell is eliminate stalling. When in a really hard enduro race, it's my opinion that any advantage you can get to reduce fatigue is a wonderful thing. The way I look at a Rekluse now is like using an electric drill or a screw driver. The screw driver gives you complete control on getting the screw into the wood, but your wrist will be tired after putting 5 screws in the wood and you will wish you had the electric drill if you have another 10 screws to go. This is just my humble opinion.
Any tips on the installation? I have mine on, bled the line until i had clear suction/pressure in the master line (disonnected from the slave), attached the line to the slave... continued to remove most, if not all air and finally closed the system. But now, my bike def stalls as soon as i throw it into gear with the clutch fully pulled in. My original clutch, while quite heavy for a hydraulic, def had zero drag when pulled in. I have no idea what else to do. I would like to remove my entire slave cyl (both reverse bleed the master line and just to inspect the piston), from the bike, but to do that i have to remove the chain as its fully blocked. 2015 250 xcf-w
+Ferenc Bathory cool, be interesting to see what you think of it. did they say how long it would take? i heard they were about 2 months behind in production recently due to the overseas demand.
Thanks for the video review! Very tempted to get one, but some of the comments on forums are saying it doesn't work as well if the set up requires a hydraulic conversion or with non-Europen bikes. Do you happen to know any one who has this fitted on a Japanese bike?
jlan0120 not personally but there would have to be some out there who have commented on various forums? clakes are really well known in australia so maybe check out the dirt bike world forum?
Hi guys, I've just bought a One Light Clutch for my 2015 EXC-F Six Days What are the best options for hand guards / bark busters with the Clake fitted? The stock guards are actually mounted off the clutch (and brake) pivots. So it needs to be the type mounted off the bars. I've seen people refer to Cycra Pro bends, but I think I prefer the idea of the open type rather than wrap around (I know its a trade off between hand protection and risk of snapped risks from trapped hands). I've been having my stock guards (and levers) nipped enough to the point where they will rotate during my 'regular' put downs! I think I prefer this to something fastened hard that is likely to either take the hit or snap. Options to consider? Thanks in advance,
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hi i really appriciate your videos! but i have a few questions. at first i am 17 and really fit in my legs (im doing soccer a lot) and have no problems there. but the thing is that my arms and fingers are pretty weak. i have no problems with the front brake or handling the bike but its so hard to get the clutch lever fully pulled after a short time of riding. would it be a good investment for me ? because 360 bucks plus costs to get it to germany is a heavy load for me. and how long does it last if nothing breaks? like years so you can fit it on new bikes i'll possibly get ? and how about installing costs? im able to do basic things on my bike but i wouldnt be able to get this done. i would love to get an answer on my comment. have a nice day ,christian.
+Chrisi234 they are expensive christian, so I don't think everyone should buy a clake. but when you have weak fingers, or your left hand and arm get sore then the clake can be fantastic. they are designed to last for a long long time before they need maintenance. eventually you might need to replace the seals, the same as any standard clutch.... this might take three to ten years? it should last forever with maintenance, unless a crash breaks the body. if a mechanic follows the instructions, maybe one to two hours fitting? i don't know how much your mechanics charge. fitting and 'bleeding' the system is very similar to a normal clutch. it is good to learn this eventually. remember a cheaper option is the midwest lever. it will only reduce the clutch pull by 30%, not up to 70% like the clake, but it is a cheaper option.
Hello,, I have a question, I believe included with my clake One Light clutch was/ is a extra Cam supplied, shy of installing, can someone tell me what I might expect out of this other cam? Will the lever pull (effort) be less or more?
Does anyone have experience with Rekluse auto clutch? I have a Rekluse and the rear brake is on the left hand. This combination is absolutely the best when driving in deep snow (Finland), the seating position. May not be the best option for cross training?
Matti Saaranen hard to say matti. i used to have a rekluse and i could ride better in hard terrain. but eventually i realised it was best to learn proper clutch control instead and sold it.
I don't know Jorge. I run wrap around handguards so never tested it out. I suspect the plan is if the plastic does break then it's much cheaper to just buy a new bit of plastic than a whole lever?
CROSS TRAINING ENDURO that makes sense. The cost isn’t a problem. I don’t want to have to adjust and fiddle with a Clake, are they dumby proof? I added washers to the clutch basket and had good results, thanks to you!
Just received and installed my Clake One light Clutch on my 2012 Honda CRF250X. Anyone installing on such a bike be aware there will be clearance issues for the slave actuator.To be specific there is a Gear box vent that will have to get altered(my fix was a delicate bend of the barb fitting)downward. reattached hose and there is clearance now. The other issue is up on the handle bar.. This model of bike has a Hot Start lever, I was lucky that I had on hand a hot Start lever from ProTaper that with slight modifications was able to mate it with the clake lever assy. I can take pictures and or discuss this with anyone interested. So, I only rode the bike a couple of minutes but the unit does very well. I will come back here after I put some more time on the bike. From Order to receiving in my hand in Southern Indiana took 32 days. (which I was ok with, gave me a chance to repack some swingarm subassy bearings and other work Ive been putting off.) Please keep up the good work on this site. Thank You. Ferenc
+Ferenc Bathory 32 days was quite fast ferenc, i heard the delays are still around 2 months. they are upgrading the factory to meet worldwide demand so it should be better in a few months time.
Hi, Yes seems Clake is getting their ducks in a row and are improving. I do have a question,, the Force Balancing adjustment,, Im not seeing very much change in pull when adjusting, but I think its easiest when adjusted "IN" is that correct? Can you verify? Thanks
Hello, Just got myself a KTM exc-f 250 -2014 and i really like the Brembo hydraulics. it's easy compared to a wire clutch. But I would love to have 1 finger clutch grip for more control. Do you know if that's available for the Brembo hydraulics clutch? ive been searching the internet with no luck so far. have just found 1 finger grips that work with wire. Or should i just try to make a one finger grip from the standard grip? it would be nice with the Clake One light grip but it's to expensive for me at the moment and i'm not sure if they will ship to Sweden either. By the way i love your channel, great work and keep the awesome videos coming. Best regards
sptnk87 the clake one light clutch is brilliant but unfortunately expensive. :-( i haven't heard of one finger grips that work with wire.... i know some guys use midwest clutch levers for an easier pull, but some don't like them.
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES It seems brilliant, I might just save the money and get it. Talked to them last night and they will ship to Sweden. They allready shiped a few units apparently :) Do you know if there is one finger grips for Brembo hydraulics clutches like i have? i just want the one finger grip to be honest. Thank you
Nevermind, this is a hydraulic system as well. But you need a conversion kit along with it if you're running a cable operated system so you're looking at around $500 for everything.....😔
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES thank you, these videos are very interesting and entertaining, i learned quiet a few things. Greetings from germany ☺
Guys I need help! I'm trying to purchase the clutch on the website. In the page they Ask which oil the clutch operates with (fluid type) and then "please supply, make, model, year". What do they mean? I have to write the model of my bike or of my current clutch? Thanks and cheers from Italy :)
+Enduro Depravation yes ED that will be your bike e.g. "Honda CRF450 2012". there is still a delay of at least a month before receiving an clakes, i think.
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES You are always so kind B, thanks! Yes, 6 weeks delay plus travel time from south to north of earth I think! I hope it won't get lost or broken during travel D: I am gonna let my riding buddies try the clutch so they may buy it :D
+Enduro Depravation woohoo! it might even be less, last i heard they finally got their second CNC machine installed to meet the international demand. but lots of teething issues and delivery times went up to 8 weeks but it's dropping fast now....
Great review on what appears to be a must have anything related to trail riding or riding period - definitely going to go check this out. Wonder if they are available or will ship to the states?! =0)
bummer! i assume the black plastic bit broke? i know they aren't meant to be unbreakable but that sucks if it happened so fast. there is a trick to bleeding them quickly, i kept telling them they needed to make a vid showing how to do this but it never happened. they did make one for the clake 2 though.
@@crosstrainingenduro yep the black plastic just bent 😞 i maked one from flex alum that works like a fuse And about the bleeding after 2 days of trying i unscrew the piston back and did a gravity bleed that took me 2 sec :|
Hey what a shame I just saw this video! I recently accuired a Rekluse clutch! It has helped A LOT for a newbie like me! I wouldve bought that leaver instead of a full auto clutch! Check the Rekluse and if possible review it! I have improved a LOT since I got it! Regards!!
Adrian Acevedo i had a rekluse for a year and loved it... suddenly i could tackle harder terrain with ease. but eventually got to a point where i realized to progress further i needed to dtich it and learn proper clutch control. only a personal opinion and you may love your rekluse for the next decade or more. :-)
You'se guy's you know , Aussie's ? One leg at ah time and all that but with bush engengenearring measuring up to that speck on the map . Oh there it is , I see you now . Rare to get a word in a crowd of you unless of cores talking about your motor bike accessories . Gets kind of noisy whenever Clake's Klutch is topic going down that rocky hill . Thanks All , Thanks be
boogiman007 yeah but that would be cheating. :-) don't know about overseas prices but here in australia the clake is a lot cheaper than the base rekluse model.
FURTHER COMMENTS Occasionally Clake owners have trouble bleeding the system. It is critical to get rid of every last air bubble. Watch their entire installation vid and follow their tips for removing those last air bubbles. ruclips.net/video/8KXwMKiT6mw/видео.html A cheap bleeding kit makes a big difference too. Still having problems? Clake have the following tips:
Back off all the force balance assistance by winding the Gold Knob anticlockwise just until you can feel some longitudinal play in the adjuster shaft. Then with the reservoir lid on, loosen the handle bar clamp bolts slightly and rotate the lever up about 45 degrees on the bars. Then cable tie the lever to the bars, leave it like this overnight then in the morning cut the cable tie whilst the unit is still in this position. Then pull the lever in slowly about 10mm then release quickly, repeat at least 6 times.
Servicing? Generally Clake suggests you may want service your Clake at around the three year mark. They can do this for you. Alternatively parts and sub-assemblies are available through the website. Two of our guys have used them for six years now with no servicing and zero problems. These are quality bits of kit.
On a budget? There are cheaper ways to reduce clutch pull up to 30%. See this video: ruclips.net/video/ydZyFR-iDWc/видео.html But if chronic arm or medical problems like arthritis and tendonitis demand more, then get up to 75% reduced clutch pull with the Clake.
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Old topic but I just took out my Rekluse and installed the One light clutch on my Husky 501. After a few rides I really like it. After finding the right setting I rarely stall and its easy to modulate the clutch for traction. Fatigue and cramps is no longer an issue.
that's what i found too peter, especially once i set the lever in fairly close to the bars.... it's so easy to slip the clutch it's become more of an instinct now so i rarely stall the bike nowadays
I made my own by mounting the original clutch further in and hose clamping a 3", 1/4" extension onto it along with an assist spring that helps pull the lever into the bar. The assist spring isn't strong enough to engage the clutch, but takes some weight off of it. Along with the xtra leverage I would say it's 50% lighter. 100hrs later and its friggin AWESOME. Cost me nothing and now I can ride with one finger. Now I just need to ghetto fix my own rear brake lever as well.
You should make a video on this haha share the wealth bro!
This Clake setup looks like it may help with my arm pump and tennis elbow problem. Currently I use a Rekluse core 3.0 but still use the clutch manually for extra control in difficult areas. As the arm pump builds or my tennis elbow becomes too painful, I let the Rekluse take over. This was never a problem 25 years ago. Getting old sucks donkey dink.
I use the 'The Righteous Stunt Clutch' (cable actuated). It has a leverage point that reduces the pull by about 50% It's quite a bit cheaper than The One. You should have a look. A lighter clutch, no matter the system, IS a total game changer, for sure!
AWESOME CLUTCH !!!
I've been using the Clake one light clutch for over a year. Awesome device. I actually trimmed and sanded the aluminium outer bulge of the lever so to never have anything hitting my other fingers when pulling it in.
yotobo, what email address are you using for clake? i can chase him up on this if you like...
Thanks. Sales@clake.com.au
much appreciated
strange, yotobo... he says he hasn't had any request for this info. here it is.
"part numbers are 150.00.596C for Brake fluid and 853005MO0 for mineral oil. both are now braktec parts but they are the same as AJP, I would try AJP America or GasGas"
Thanks! probably spam folder.
I was able to find a dot-4 rebuild kit from TrialStoreusa.com
part ref is BRK M CYL RP KT 8531
it looks identical, I should be good !!
finally ordered one for my KTM 500 ECX, not many of my 2-wheeled buddies are familiar with Clake brand so I hope I start a trend among the sport bike stutter groups and my endure peeps
hopefully won't take long jesse, ever since they took off internationally they've had delays of 2 to 8 weeks in filling orders. if it's taking a while you can try emailing them but they get very slow on replies when they are busy... better off ringing then, even if it's an international call.
Emailed Clake over a week ago inquiring about the OLC. Crickets even after two followup emails. If they can't even answer a simple question, I'd hate to have to rely on them for tech or parts support.
That's a shame to hear things haven't improved. I've had quite a few customers contact me saying they could never get the Clake guys to answer emails... and I passed on these messages. They just said it's best if customers ring directly between 8am to 9am before they hit the factory floor. But this is unfair for overseas customers. 😢
@@crosstrainingenduro Exactly. The OLC is already very expensive without adding an overseas call to the bill. I'm thinking to just pull the trigger on a Rekluse and be done with it. :-)
My Clake arrived last week and I was able to get out for a test ride with it this past weekend. Here is my take on it.
The pros;
As someone with both tennis and golfer’s elbow problems, I had hoped it would help to minimize some of the problems that come from those conditions. In simple terms it has helped with the golfer’s elbow since use of the pointer and middle fingers affect it most. The clutch is now so easy to pull you barely notice it. Freeing up the middle finger to aid in gripping the bars is also helpful. Easing the strain on the fingers is an incredible help for me. I call it a win.
The cons:
The end of the lever has an odd shaped ball on it. It doesn’t allow the lever to come all the way in to the bar. The ball stops the lever about 10mm away from the bar. This means that the lever has to be positioned with a start point 10mm further away. If you buy size small or medium gloves, you may have issues trying to set the lever position within reach while still fully disengaging when pulled in. The way around this is to loosen your grip, open your hand and reach out for the lever. On a hill climb it could be a problem. Being someone with a small hand I developed a blister at the meaty part of my thumb from opening and closing my hand because of this. The fix would simply be a slight design change for the ball end. I was going to order a second One Light Clutch for my wife's bike but we are not able to set it up to fit her smaller hand. That 10mm is just enough that we are not able to put the lever in reach of her fingers and still fully disengage the clutch when pulled all the way in.
+brass289 interesting about the ball end in your case, i'll pass that feedback on to them. i assume they have to have a ball end to meet FIM requirements for competition use but would be interesting to see if they could work in that change.
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES. I'm sure you're correct about the ball needing to be there. The real problem is with the small hands! It would be easy enough to correct at the manufacturing end to make it easier for the digitally challenged. I will email a picture to Owen to give him some details. That issue aside it is a fantastic product.
+brass289 i'm sure he'll be very interested, from the chats i've had with him he tries to make all his setups adjustable for small hands. mind you, he might not reply for a month or two as they are still snowed under with orders probably.
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES
I realise my comments sound critical and not very favourable towards the Clake. That isn’t my intention. The comments are only meant to convey the issues I have due to my small hands and hopefully offer Clake some information about who uses their product and what results they have when using it. If that information turns into an improvement for the product, great. If not, perhaps it will help others with setting up their levers. I may file down the back side of the lever ball to allow more travel and adjustment.
Overall, I find the clutch to be a very worthwhile investment for me and I’ll continue to use it. The increased clutch modulation alone make it worth the investment. For anyone with hand or elbow injuries, it's ease of use makes it almost a must have item.
+brass289 sounded like constructive feedback to me, brass289. i get really sore fingers after each ride (probably the early signs of arthritis) and some carpal tunnel so this clutch is an absolute godsend to me. :)
Hey mate I tried to fit it on my bike today and for some reason when u pull it in it won't come back out and does not engage the clutch what do I do and do u know what is happening
i figure you'd need to work through the instructions to see what went wrong then contact clake if that doesn't get it working?
When there is air trapped in the system, you will have that issue. Be sure to fully bleed all the air out and that should correct the problem. This occurs because the spring assist in the Clake is able to compress the air trapped in the system and forces the lever towards the bar. To make bleeding easier, back out the adjustment knob on the Clake or try forcing fluid up from the slave cylinder.
are you still running one of these or the clutch/brake setup?
+markmtbrider clake one light clutch at the moment but will swing back to the clake 2 eventually
interesting idea and I might have been tempted if a Rekluse clutch did not exist. For similar money I think a Rekluse clutch is a far better solution to get all the fingers on the bars.
Rike Wedderburn yep, it comes down to how far you want to take your skills. if you keep progressing at some point you need to learn manual clutch control and i had a lot of catching up to do as i'd gone backwards after two years with the rekluse... :-( but definitely caught up again fast with the trials riding.
Great review! I want one of these clutches now. Seems like all the cool enduro accessories are available in Oz, but not in the USA. You lucky dingos!!!
Peter Felten it's definitely great kit... last week i rode a bike with their pro lever setup which first disengages the clutch then goes on to apply the rear brake. sounds weird but was awesome and i reckon has so many applications i think i'll have to go for that. saving the pennies now. :-D
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES I've checked out the Clake stuff on the web before, both the One Light Clutch and the clutch brake combo setup. It made me wonder if the clutch/brake combo would make it difficult to ride other bikes after getting used to it. Risky might not be the best term, but it seems like it might not be the best idea to start using non-standard controls. The risk is probably greater the other way though---someone else riding the bike with it that *isn't* used to it getting a handful of brake when they don't mean to. At least it would be rear brake and not front. If Graham can manage to get by without it... ;o)
Of course, I'm just envious in that I've never owned a bike where I could pull the clutch with one finger at all (well maybe with a bit of pain and a concerted effort with the bike off, but not in any type of actual riding scenario).
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And what if you just want to use the clutch without braking, like we often need to in enduro riding? Also, i am quite sure that i would hit the brake accidentaly wanting to use the clutch. I like the idea of the two lever approach (rear brake and clutch on the left grip) but i can't figure the benefits of linking the clutch and the rear brake on one lever.
i'd go the clake 2 if that's a concern as you can opt for the clutch only lever. i asked chris birch what he thought of the clake stuff, he figured it would be a gimmick but really liked and said it would be very useful in extreme enduros... BUT given how much they damage their bikes he said at the top level they always opt to keep bikes as standard as possible for easy trackside repairs etc.... the old keep it simple stupid when riding at that level.
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES Recently, I picked up an 08 Honda CRF450R that has the Rekluse Core EXP 2.0 clutch installed. I must say, this made riding in the woods (hard enduro conditions) extremely easy. I know I have been a proponent in saying "using a Rekluse is cheating", but I am not so sure I can say that anymore. The only thing the Core EXP 2.0 does as far as I can tell is eliminate stalling. When in a really hard enduro race, it's my opinion that any advantage you can get to reduce fatigue is a wonderful thing. The way I look at a Rekluse now is like using an electric drill or a screw driver. The screw driver gives you complete control on getting the screw into the wood, but your wrist will be tired after putting 5 screws in the wood and you will wish you had the electric drill if you have another 10 screws to go. This is just my humble opinion.
Any tips on the installation? I have mine on, bled the line until i had clear suction/pressure in the master line (disonnected from the slave), attached the line to the slave... continued to remove most, if not all air and finally closed the system. But now, my bike def stalls as soon as i throw it into gear with the clutch fully pulled in. My original clutch, while quite heavy for a hydraulic, def had zero drag when pulled in.
I have no idea what else to do. I would like to remove my entire slave cyl (both reverse bleed the master line and just to inspect the piston), from the bike, but to do that i have to remove the chain as its fully blocked.
2015 250 xcf-w
Ok Mines on order, thank you for your reviews.
+Ferenc Bathory cool, be interesting to see what you think of it. did they say how long it would take? i heard they were about 2 months behind in production recently due to the overseas demand.
Thanks for the video review! Very tempted to get one, but some of the comments on forums are saying it doesn't work as well if the set up requires a hydraulic conversion or with non-Europen bikes. Do you happen to know any one who has this fitted on a Japanese bike?
jlan0120 not personally but there would have to be some out there who have commented on various forums? clakes are really well known in australia so maybe check out the dirt bike world forum?
Hi guys,
I've just bought a One Light Clutch for my 2015 EXC-F Six Days
What are the best options for hand guards / bark busters with the Clake fitted? The stock guards are actually mounted off the clutch (and brake) pivots. So it needs to be the type mounted off the bars.
I've seen people refer to Cycra Pro bends, but I think I prefer the idea of the open type rather than wrap around (I know its a trade off between hand protection and risk of snapped risks from trapped hands). I've been having my stock guards (and levers) nipped enough to the point where they will rotate during my 'regular' put downs! I think I prefer this to something fastened hard that is likely to either take the hit or snap.
Options to consider?
Thanks in advance,
I loooove the way you clutch in with the little finger, classy as Audrey Hepburn breakfat at Tiffany...
That the way!
As Audrey said "For beautiful eyes, look for the good in others; for beautiful lips, speak only words of kindness; and for poise, walk with the knowledge that you are never alone." I think it was advice just for women but very classy. 😎
hi i really appriciate your videos!
but i have a few questions. at first i am 17 and really fit in my legs (im doing soccer a lot) and have no problems there. but the thing is that my arms and fingers are pretty weak. i have no problems with the front brake or handling the bike but its so hard to get the clutch lever fully pulled after a short time of riding. would it be a good investment for me ? because 360 bucks plus costs to get it to germany is a heavy load for me. and how long does it last if nothing breaks? like years so you can fit it on new bikes i'll possibly get ?
and how about installing costs? im able to do basic things on my bike but i wouldnt be able to get this done.
i would love to get an answer on my comment.
have a nice day ,christian.
+Chrisi234 they are expensive christian, so I don't think everyone should buy a clake. but when you have weak fingers, or your left hand and arm get sore then the clake can be fantastic. they are designed to last for a long long time before they need maintenance. eventually you might need to replace the seals, the same as any standard clutch.... this might take three to ten years? it should last forever with maintenance, unless a crash breaks the body. if a mechanic follows the instructions, maybe one to two hours fitting? i don't know how much your mechanics charge. fitting and 'bleeding' the system is very similar to a normal clutch. it is good to learn this eventually. remember a cheaper option is the midwest lever. it will only reduce the clutch pull by 30%, not up to 70% like the clake, but it is a cheaper option.
Hello,, I have a question, I believe included with my clake One Light clutch was/ is a extra Cam supplied, shy of installing, can someone tell me what I might expect out of this other cam? Will the lever pull (effort) be less or more?
+Ferenc Bathory check their website: www.clake.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Tuning_the_clake.pdf
Does anyone have experience with Rekluse auto clutch?
I have a Rekluse and the rear brake is on the left hand.
This combination is absolutely the best when driving in deep snow (Finland), the seating position. May not be the best option for cross training?
Matti Saaranen hard to say matti. i used to have a rekluse and i could ride better in hard terrain. but eventually i realised it was best to learn proper clutch control instead and sold it.
if you have rear brake on the left hand and a recluse clutch you have already discovered the ultimate dirt bike setup. you cannot improve on this.
Rike Wedderburn Not sure if giving away clutch control is the ultimate dirt bike set up to be honnest.
Does the levers fold (or fold enough) to avoid breaking? thanks
I don't know Jorge. I run wrap around handguards so never tested it out. I suspect the plan is if the plastic does break then it's much cheaper to just buy a new bit of plastic than a whole lever?
Is this still the best option for a light clutch pull, Barry?
hard to say adrian. if you watch our 'five ways to a lighter clutch' vid it depends on whether the overall cost is important and other factors too.
CROSS TRAINING ENDURO that makes sense. The cost isn’t a problem. I don’t want to have to adjust and fiddle with a Clake, are they dumby proof? I added washers to the clutch basket and had good results, thanks to you!
Is it installabel on Adventure bikes? Let's say I'd like to put it on GS-800.
if it's a hydraulic clutch it should be fine. their website is probably a better source of info than me though.
Just received and installed my Clake One light Clutch on my 2012 Honda CRF250X. Anyone installing on such a bike be aware there will be clearance issues for the slave actuator.To be specific there is a Gear box vent that will have to get altered(my fix was a delicate bend of the barb fitting)downward. reattached hose and there is clearance now. The other issue is up on the handle bar.. This model of bike has a Hot Start lever, I was lucky that I had on hand a hot Start lever from ProTaper that with slight modifications was able to mate it with the clake lever assy. I can take pictures and or discuss this with anyone interested. So, I only rode the bike a couple of minutes but the unit does very well. I will come back here after I put some more time on the bike. From Order to receiving in my hand in Southern Indiana took 32 days. (which I was ok with, gave me a chance to repack some swingarm subassy bearings and other work Ive been putting off.) Please keep up the good work on this site. Thank You. Ferenc
+Ferenc Bathory 32 days was quite fast ferenc, i heard the delays are still around 2 months. they are upgrading the factory to meet worldwide demand so it should be better in a few months time.
Hi, Yes seems Clake is getting their ducks in a row and are improving.
I do have a question,, the Force Balancing adjustment,, Im not seeing very much change in pull when adjusting, but I think its easiest when adjusted "IN" is that correct? Can you verify? Thanks
+Ferenc Bathory yes, but it's a very fine thread so you need to screw it for a long way before it has much effect.
Owen gave me a estimate of 5 weeks , I can hold my breath that long but not much longer.
+Ferenc Bathory sweet, sounds like they must be slowly getting on top of things then!
Hello, Just got myself a KTM exc-f 250 -2014 and i really like the Brembo hydraulics. it's easy compared to a wire clutch. But I would love to have 1 finger clutch grip for more control. Do you know if that's available for the Brembo hydraulics clutch? ive been searching the internet with no luck so far. have just found 1 finger grips that work with wire. Or should i just try to make a one finger grip from the standard grip?
it would be nice with the Clake One light grip but it's to expensive for me at the moment and i'm not sure if they will ship to Sweden either. By the way i love your channel, great work and keep the awesome videos coming. Best regards
sptnk87 the clake one light clutch is brilliant but unfortunately expensive. :-( i haven't heard of one finger grips that work with wire.... i know some guys use midwest clutch levers for an easier pull, but some don't like them.
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES It seems brilliant, I might just save the money and get it. Talked to them last night and they will ship to Sweden. They allready shiped a few units apparently :)
Do you know if there is one finger grips for Brembo hydraulics clutches like i have? i just want the one finger grip to be honest.
Thank you
sptnk87 as per last comment, i don't know what a one finger grip is. a google search only shows guitar techniques. do you have a link?
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES I guess he meant one finger lever.
teeeeeemu yeah that was what i meant. Im from a non english speaking country so :)
Is this good enough as a stunt brake for stand up wheelies?
interesting idea. i can't see why not but it would be good to hear from a stunt rider who has tried it.
CROSS TRAINING ENDURO SKILLS got told it wouldn’t work, will need a second caliper. Cheers though!
Anyone know how this compares to a hydraulic clutch kit?
Nevermind, this is a hydraulic system as well. But you need a conversion kit along with it if you're running a cable operated system so you're looking at around $500 for everything.....😔
Wich air pressure do you prefer in wet and slippery areas?
Rear tire and front tire?
ringelnatz1000 8psi front and rear. 10 for most other situations.
CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES thank you, these videos are very interesting and entertaining, i learned quiet a few things. Greetings from germany ☺
Guys I need help! I'm trying to purchase the clutch on the website. In the page they Ask which oil the clutch operates with (fluid type) and then "please supply, make, model, year". What do they mean? I have to write the model of my bike or of my current clutch? Thanks and cheers from Italy :)
+Enduro Depravation yes ED that will be your bike e.g. "Honda CRF450 2012". there is still a delay of at least a month before receiving an clakes, i think.
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES You are always so kind B, thanks! Yes, 6 weeks delay plus travel time from south to north of earth I think! I hope it won't get lost or broken during travel D: I am gonna let my riding buddies try the clutch so they may buy it :D
+CROSS TRAINING, ENDUROCROSS & ENDURO TECHNIQUES p.s. I just managed to order it :D
+Enduro Depravation woohoo! it might even be less, last i heard they finally got their second CNC machine installed to meet the international demand. but lots of teething issues and delivery times went up to 8 weeks but it's dropping fast now....
Great review on what appears to be a must have anything related to trail riding or riding period - definitely going to go check this out. Wonder if they are available or will ship to the states?! =0)
DirtHog365 as far as i know they ship to the states. would definitely be cheaper now that our dollar is falling again.
Broke it after one fall fail! Hard to bleed it also not so flex as the video
bummer! i assume the black plastic bit broke? i know they aren't meant to be unbreakable but that sucks if it happened so fast. there is a trick to bleeding them quickly, i kept telling them they needed to make a vid showing how to do this but it never happened. they did make one for the clake 2 though.
@@crosstrainingenduro yep the black plastic just bent 😞 i maked one from flex alum that works like a fuse
And about the bleeding after 2 days of trying i unscrew the piston back and did a gravity bleed that took me 2 sec :|
Does someone know if it`s on sale in Europe?
Hey what a shame I just saw this video! I recently accuired a Rekluse clutch! It has helped A LOT for a newbie like me! I wouldve bought that leaver instead of a full auto clutch! Check the Rekluse and if possible review it! I have improved a LOT since I got it! Regards!!
Adrian Acevedo i had a rekluse for a year and loved it... suddenly i could tackle harder terrain with ease. but eventually got to a point where i realized to progress further i needed to dtich it and learn proper clutch control. only a personal opinion and you may love your rekluse for the next decade or more. :-)
How hard is cross training
Brilliant
does this fit to cable clutch?
yes, relevant info for a hydraulic conversion on their website.
hmmm what about a new product... the Clake Zero!
You'se guy's you know , Aussie's ? One leg at ah time and all that but with bush engengenearring measuring up to that speck on the map . Oh there it is , I see you now . Rare to get a word in a crowd of you unless of cores talking about your motor bike accessories . Gets kind of noisy whenever Clake's Klutch is topic going down that rocky hill . Thanks All , Thanks be
P.S. I like the Clake Clutch cause it lets you choose which rocks you want too take with you down the hill with . , , ,
You sound like Coach Nihil ^^
2nd dude looks like Buddy Franklin.
For that price i could buy a Revloc, ops, i mean Rekluse.
boogiman007 yeah but that would be cheating. :-) don't know about overseas prices but here in australia the clake is a lot cheaper than the base rekluse model.
Here in the USA a Rekluse EXP 3.0 setup runs $899 retail!
will this clutch help with my severe wankers cramp?
blkvtr1k potentially... but i'm told you have to be careful that your private parts can get caught painfully when you release the lever.
Wow! Made me want one! Hey, are you on Face Book? I share all your videos in a group called "Enduro Motorcycle Films"
ben rainchild yep, facebook link is on the website. most of the vids have the link to the website at the end.