Why Marvel is making Iron Fist Asian After 50 Years Explained

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Комментарии • 346

  • @biocapsule7311
    @biocapsule7311 2 года назад +113

    Speaking as a Chinese, Danny Rand as character never bothered me. While the gesture is certainly appreciate, whether Danny Rand would be "offensive" has less to do with him being Caucasian, but more to do with whether they bothered to depict the cultural sentiment with love and care. As far as I know, no Chinese really complain about Kung Fu Panda because the love was clearly there.

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад +9

      I'm just against recast

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад +3

      @@silverstrike5904 Recast will happen because this is the MCU. They can't hired EVERY SINGLE ACTOR to come back

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад +1

      @@terrellthaddies7867 I know but it's still irritating When we cast in a care to that period and more than one episode and films

  • @rell127
    @rell127 2 года назад +25

    This isn't the first Asian Iron Fist I hope people realize that. The first one we seen in the comics was the one before Danny. Hell even before this one Danny's Protégé who actually is Asian little girl was supposed to inherit it from Danny.

    • @VogtTD
      @VogtTD 2 года назад +9

      That's fine,, but they're doing this as a reaction to accusations of racism, not because they want to shake things up. Some loud people said having a white guy be one of the greatest martial artists in the world was racist. As if having all great martial artists be asian isn't a racist stereotype?

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад +2

      Why not makes a series or film about either of the two?

    • @rell127
      @rell127 2 года назад +3

      @@VogtTD huh? You think they are just now doing it? The first Iron Fist we seen was created back in 2012. Please be quite. Also Asians being martial artist in comics is nothing new you do realize that right?

  • @l.apastore4208
    @l.apastore4208 2 года назад +74

    I care about Danny rand. Granted his introduction, his inception, and his origin is borderline pandering, white saviour ish and a flat out mockery. But since his introduction they have never played it up once. His coming of age is not to dissimilar to Batman and since then all his arcs have done is pay homage mostly. Iron fist is based on Bruce lee, and if there wasn’t already a Shang-chi I’d be even more excited, but let’s not forget Danny rand please, he is more then just iron fist.

    • @jon_ovo3653
      @jon_ovo3653 2 года назад +1

      Dany poop water without the fist barely even good with the fist

  • @coss1
    @coss1 2 года назад +63

    As a black man I think one of the main characteristics that makes iron fist interesting is his whiteness. Granted some of the earlier portrayals definitely delved into white savior tropes. Danny’s this white guy engulfed in Asian culture and tradition, I find that very intriguing. With that being said there can be more than one person that holds the iron fist mantle, so I have absolutely no issue with iron fist being white as long as it’s not an Asian version of Danny Rand.

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      They could give danny rand a sidekick or a son that is asian?

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад +2

      @@MysterDoktor the sidekick thing?

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      @@MysterDoktor okay

    • @okentrepreneur3777
      @okentrepreneur3777 2 года назад

      @@silverstrike5904 wah sing rand was half asian and Danny rand was his descendant

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      @@okentrepreneur3777 are you talking about the one from earth-90221?

  • @tylergannon6978
    @tylergannon6978 2 года назад +23

    Because marvel pretends they don’t stereo type but at the end of the day the wanna say only Asians can know martial arts

  • @oldmandeadpool1064
    @oldmandeadpool1064 2 года назад +7

    Could’ve just made Shang chi more prominent

    • @brandonspencer5594
      @brandonspencer5594 2 года назад +4

      There are way more white martial arts masters and black martial arts masters in comics.why can’t we have more than one Asian martial artist?

  • @Ax-xN
    @Ax-xN 2 года назад +31

    Shorter explanation marvel doesn't know what to do with any character

    • @JMTgpro
      @JMTgpro 2 года назад +1

      Too much baggage on the shoulders of the legacies. Imagine what it must be like to have to write a story with a character with more than 50 years of existence. And a fanatic that to the smallest detail that contradicts something, takes out the torches. I understand them in part but that's why I say that they should focus on new characters, new stories ... For something the biggest recent successes in comics were; Miles Morales, Runaways, Young Avengers and Kamala.
      While the reinventions: Captain Marvel, Iceman, Amadeus, IronHeart ... They never managed to stand.

  • @chris4764
    @chris4764 2 года назад +8

    The thing I really hate about the media around Danny Rand is that sure hes white but if people read the comics they would see when he was in Kun Lun he was a outcast because he wasnt from Kun Lun everyone looked down upon him from that, until he porved himself by going through the trials of Shou Lou in turn earning the Iron Fist. Also I dont understand this White Savior trope Danny has been always been portrayed as layed back and chill but also wise for his age but he does flaws and fails time to tume

  • @lukastheloser
    @lukastheloser 2 года назад +53

    They made iron fist into a stereotype that’s what they did

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад +1

      They really didn't

    • @linkingwithnaz1295
      @linkingwithnaz1295 2 года назад +14

      The white savior is the stereotype

    • @tyconnelly6879
      @tyconnelly6879 2 года назад +18

      @@linkingwithnaz1295 so making an Asian guy a kung fu fighter isn’t a stereotype?

    • @glenwaldrop8166
      @glenwaldrop8166 2 года назад

      @@linkingwithnaz1295 so?
      White people making stories typically star white people.

    • @imanigordon6803
      @imanigordon6803 2 года назад +8

      @@linkingwithnaz1295 the kung fu Asian is a stereotype too though 😆

  • @kingofhearts1072
    @kingofhearts1072 2 года назад +8

    I don't know but did they take a survey with Asian READERS about this, BEFORE deciding to do this?
    I mean we DO have Sheng-Chi who is THE greatest Martial Artist within the MU(616). That doesn't mean that we can't have more than one Asian martial artist superhero, it's just that Danny Rand not being Asian makes him a little more uncommon and unique.

  • @kanukki84
    @kanukki84 2 года назад +5

    Danny Rand´s story was always "fish out of the water"story. You can be martial artist even if you are caucasian.

  • @abcpanther
    @abcpanther 2 года назад +24

    You’re ok with everything marvel does. You’re like an employee

    • @GhostlyPhantom
      @GhostlyPhantom 2 года назад +1

      Man, now he's a employee? Wow lucky!

    • @0n1baka
      @0n1baka 2 года назад +10

      He's just an ass-kisser. Pretty much the YoungYeah of comics.

    • @jayanimations494
      @jayanimations494 2 года назад

      @UCczsxldeZiJRu123XJ2MuoQ he’d rather not get offended over a comic book character like f cking virgins

  • @thedukeofchutney468
    @thedukeofchutney468 2 года назад +46

    I couldn’t care less about a characters race, but I do care about a CHARACTER. The woke crowd doesn’t care about characters they just care that all things have a certain “diversity” quota. As a minority this feels pandering.
    EDIT: I feel my initial comment came off as more negative than I meant. While I don’t care what race sexuality a character is I do think it’s a problem if this is the most important part of who or the “character” and I want nothing to with bad writing like this. I hope the character is good, and is the next Kamala Kahn or, is like later versions of Miles Morales, but I get the feeling that they’re not gonna do that and it’s gonna be another New Warriors. I hope I’m wrong but I’ve got an unfortunate feeling I’m not.
    Also I don’t mind a new Iron Fist like you said it’s a mantel and I think it even makes sense for it to be an Asian guy. My problem is that his being Asian seems to be the focus and NOT on who the actual person is.

    • @marvelanddcfan5029
      @marvelanddcfan5029 2 года назад +5

      Pls dont bring in politics here mate

    • @Erhuero
      @Erhuero 2 года назад +1

      Who are these ’wokes’ you speak of?

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад +3

      No Matter what race gets a certain mantle or no matter what new character from a different race gets brought in into the Marvel fold, it will always be considered "pandering" to people with that mindset

    • @fearless3073
      @fearless3073 2 года назад +4

      Apparently nobody replying saw Black Widow 😂

    • @TheLivewire18
      @TheLivewire18 2 года назад +6

      The actual truth is that the anti-woke crowd is the problem because they don’t care about the character. Every time they make a legacy character a different race, they do give the character themselves backstories, personalities, character traits and everything. We just don’t hear about them because there’s a wave of people crying about wokeness before they even have a chance to read the comic and find out about the character.
      Miles morales, kamala khan, even Sam Wilson for cap, they are all CHARACTERS. Yet the anti woke will pretend that like the marvel writers just skipped that part and moved on to “fill quotas.”

  • @silversurfer8818
    @silversurfer8818 2 года назад +11

    I don't care for anything related to martial arts characters, who needs fancy moves when a wave of my hand can destabilize their molecular structure.

    • @ShortPunk27
      @ShortPunk27 2 года назад +2

      Because not all heroes need to be on the same level. And all threats aren't on the same level. We don't need a god to stop some street thugs. 🤦‍♂️

    • @BrothaBeige88
      @BrothaBeige88 2 года назад +2

      Waving your hand and random shit happening is extremely boring. That's why those types of characters are OBJECTIVELY less popular than those that have to fight and work for a win. So to hell with waving hands. 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @revengeofthesith.
      @revengeofthesith. 2 года назад

      @@BrothaBeige88 Silver surfer is not OBJECTIVELY less popular than Iron Fist or Shang-Chi. But nice try.

    • @BrothaBeige88
      @BrothaBeige88 2 года назад

      @@revengeofthesith.
      No one said anything about Silver Surfer anywhere up here numb nuts. Plus Spider-Man and the X-MEN are always the most popular Characters in Marvel Comics. And the most popular ones don't just wave their hands and have random shit happening. So nice try on CHANGING the TOPIC to FORCE YOUR POINT. SO OBJECTIVELY YOU ARE STIL WRONG!

  • @johngrayson9218
    @johngrayson9218 2 года назад +8

    Because they plan to make the Iron Fist in the MCU Asian

    • @harrypool71
      @harrypool71 2 года назад +2

      Love it

    • @drunkendesperado2128
      @drunkendesperado2128 2 года назад +1

      I said this after shang-chi came out it would honestly be better.

    • @wolfgang6442
      @wolfgang6442 2 года назад +1

      @@drunkendesperado2128 yeah but we already got shang chi Asian iron fist is no different aside from him having a glowing fist

    • @drunkendesperado2128
      @drunkendesperado2128 2 года назад +1

      @@wolfgang6442 if he does come to the mcu they will most likely make him asian but I hope it's not henry golding that dude sucks imo 😂 plus he would need to be chinese if they plan on connecting him to shang-chi 🤷‍♂️

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      Than why not focus on the first iron fist?

  • @Supermanwithatan01
    @Supermanwithatan01 2 года назад +5

    Lol they have something like nearly 50 Iron Fists - and have decided to replace Danny who from 2005-2014 was one of their more popular runs. Saying he has to be Asian, in some form, is ridiculous

    • @brandonspencer5594
      @brandonspencer5594 2 года назад +2

      “Popular” no he is not.give me actual numbers cause iron fist books do not sell all that well lol

  • @shadowstrike234
    @shadowstrike234 2 года назад +23

    Cuz Shang-Chi who is also a martial artist was Asian, and turned out to be successful. Hence, Iron Fist is now Asian.

    • @Erhuero
      @Erhuero 2 года назад

      Are you saying that they where hesitant to use an Asian actor for a character that receives his powers from a mystical Asian kingdom?Ill understand if this was 1960 but wow.

    • @shadowstrike234
      @shadowstrike234 2 года назад +2

      @@Erhuero That's exactly what I'm saying. Why else didn't they do so in the first place?

    • @Erhuero
      @Erhuero 2 года назад +1

      @@shadowstrike234 I understand you.

  • @Nou75
    @Nou75 2 года назад +20

    Sigh! I don't oppose diversity; however, I disagree with marketers pandering the audience bc of recent events. I'd prefer if they stick to the storyline with an actor that has a very strong background in MARTIAL ARTS

  • @Scroogemcduk
    @Scroogemcduk 2 года назад +21

    NOT everything needs to have diversity

  • @RodrequezRobinson2001
    @RodrequezRobinson2001 2 года назад +8

    Man I don't care what race he is just make this fool good and his fighting style good and I'm straight

  • @aurelienhenryobama5434
    @aurelienhenryobama5434 2 года назад +30

    The real major problem for me was not that character was played by white guy but a white guy who lacks martial arts background. There are many non Asian actors who have strong martial arts background since childhood and who are also good actors. If Hollywood continue to cast actors who don't have the skills for particular character. There will always be that problem no matter roles. Put actors in their right roles. There is always that myth that Asian are experts in martial arts which is not totally false but they are also those who don't practice martial arts . That was failure of the series. Every one who has watched the series complain of lack of fighting skills including famous Action star Scott Adkins who could have played that role. I am certain if he or any talented martial arts actor played that role it would have been another story. Me I am an African who is also martial artist and actor. Shang-chi succeeded not only because the actor reflected the origins of the character but he also had martial arts background to be convincing. We all know that Tom Holland has basic acrobatic acrobatic skills, parkour and dancing which makes him a good Spiderman. Casting the right actor is 50% success for a movie. I wish success for the new Asian Iron fist and hope the story honor the legacy of the comic book

    • @willisj1515
      @willisj1515 2 года назад +1

      Facts bro 🙏🏾💯

    • @VogtTD
      @VogtTD 2 года назад +4

      That's a complaint about the actor, not the character. We're talking about the character.

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад +1

      Didn't he trained for season 2

    • @kingofhearts1072
      @kingofhearts1072 2 года назад +2

      ALL facts except that as much as I like Scott Atkins, he's a great martial artist but he's not a good actor unfortunately.

    • @KeneIfezue
      @KeneIfezue 2 года назад

      @@silverstrike5904 yup.

  • @jbstudios3000
    @jbstudios3000 2 года назад +8

    This isn’t a race swap so idc. It’s a brand new character. Will still always love Danny though. Also Asians have ALWAYS been vastly accepted in cinema.

    • @christopherdunn4066
      @christopherdunn4066 2 года назад +3

      Meh its swapping a white iron fist for an asian one. Stilll race swapping, just a different way.

    • @jbstudios3000
      @jbstudios3000 2 года назад +3

      @@christopherdunn4066 I guess but it’s not like they’re making a white character Asian or vice versa to me it’s like Miguel O’Hara he is a futuristic Spider-Man but he’s not the Spider-Man Peter Parker is the only Spider-Man like officially the other ones are just legacy characters and that’s basically what this is.

    • @christopherdunn4066
      @christopherdunn4066 2 года назад +1

      @@jbstudios3000 I was thinking more along the lines of Cpt. America. We went from Steve to Sam.

    • @christopherdunn4066
      @christopherdunn4066 2 года назад +2

      @@jbstudios3000 It is just going to erk me if we dont get to see plenty of Danny Rand. I like the character ever since Iron Fist show and Defenders. I just hate that they feel like they have to reboot characters all the freaking time.

    • @jbstudios3000
      @jbstudios3000 2 года назад +1

      @@christopherdunn4066 similar yeah.

  • @travisspazz1624
    @travisspazz1624 2 года назад +31

    It sucks because Iron Fist is one of my favorites, especially Matt fraction and Ed Brubaker run.
    I also genuinely enjoyed season 2 of the show!

  • @adamquenano8563
    @adamquenano8563 2 года назад +15

    I swear to god all, the super heroes found the same garbage can Spider-Man found.

  • @LuciferMorningstar-dp7by
    @LuciferMorningstar-dp7by 2 года назад +7

    What would happen to Danny rand??
    I don't want him to just disappear...

  • @ericmiller93
    @ericmiller93 2 года назад +5

    They should’ve done Misty and Colleen as Daughters of the Dragon, or they should in the future. As long as they bring Jessica Henwick back. I’m all about some Jessica Henwick.

  • @ManWiThOutFEAR1982
    @ManWiThOutFEAR1982 2 года назад +9

    "How dare you have any white characters that's racist!"

    • @OTB2002
      @OTB2002 2 года назад +1

      Most characters are white

    • @ManWiThOutFEAR1982
      @ManWiThOutFEAR1982 2 года назад

      @@OTB2002 I guess painfully obvious sarcasm is completely lost on you smfh. Your not the brightest tool im the shed are you?

  • @sgtdonaldduck
    @sgtdonaldduck 2 года назад +8

    I think stereotyping every Asian as a kung fu fighter is racist.

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад +2

      U do realized that before Danny Raid, there was an Asian Iron Fist. So no, it was never racist

    • @brandonspencer5594
      @brandonspencer5594 2 года назад +1

      What’s wrong with an Asian being a martial arts master?

  • @AssassinHunterGamingChannel
    @AssassinHunterGamingChannel 2 года назад +3

    So a Caucasian person can’t do martial arts? Struggling to see how this is culturally insensitive.When you put Iron fist being Caucasian into the context of Danny Rands story, you can see it’s fine

  • @Dreadpoolz3977
    @Dreadpoolz3977 2 года назад +7

    And this is why comics aren't selling right now.

  • @kingbreezy4481
    @kingbreezy4481 2 года назад +17

    Okayyyy so… looking at the comic to movie pattern, this is the direction the MCU is probably gonna go in. Especially looking at how Feige responds to less successful non MCU projects like Inhumans, he seems to wanna shy away from them, hence… Ms Genie 😬

    • @MetalMadness_00
      @MetalMadness_00 2 года назад +7

      Introduce racial characters to the comics so u can use them for the mcu

    • @vaughnmitchell3030
      @vaughnmitchell3030 2 года назад

      @ king breezy, the inhumans was successful, it was a bridge to the other marvel movies. You forget it was locked out of other countries, so sales was down, the same Chang Chi, the sales was down because it was locked out of the Chinese market.

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад +8

      @@vaughnmitchell3030 I don't know what world u lived in but
      1. The inhumans was a Marvel TV series on ABC by Jeph Loeb. Marvel Studios nor Kevin Feige has anything to do with that project.
      2. The Inhumans FLOPPED as a TV series hence why it was canceled after S1
      I'm open minded to different iterations of a character/mantle. So I'm excited to see what this new character can do

    • @kingbreezy4481
      @kingbreezy4481 2 года назад +1

      @@vaughnmitchell3030 It was incredibly poorly received critically and with audiences.

    • @vaughnmitchell3030
      @vaughnmitchell3030 2 года назад

      @ king breezy, my mistake, I meant the internals, lol. The inhumans was a joke

  • @scph321
    @scph321 2 года назад +21

    Many times the comics can lead a future live action character. I wonder if an asian Iron Fist movie could be shaped for China to accept it?

    • @wolfgang6442
      @wolfgang6442 2 года назад +8

      What makes you think this character will be any different for they didn't give shang chi a chance and the movie was accurate on all fronts with Chinese culture and representation

    • @ameysingh997
      @ameysingh997 2 года назад +6

      Do you really think china will accept a westernized character? Marvel just stop pandering to them and adapt other comic characters

    • @SicSemperBeats
      @SicSemperBeats 2 года назад

      @@wolfgang6442 exactly lmao.

    • @bnice1374
      @bnice1374 2 года назад +1

      @@wolfgang6442 That had more to do with the actor's statements.

    • @LacTose90
      @LacTose90 2 года назад +1

      @@bnice1374 not really if you looked at how they treat western movies over there compared to the world

  • @darthbeast2278
    @darthbeast2278 2 года назад +2

    I just want to see Shang-Chi and Iron Fist team up

  • @okentrepreneur3777
    @okentrepreneur3777 2 года назад +9

    Iron first is in my top 5 favorite heroes of all time, I’m happy he’s getting light brought to his character again, Danny or not. Now when it comes to Danny rand I really do like him and appreciated his character. As a black guy I thought heroes for hire was a duo that was needed at the time where a black man and white man in comics together CONSISTENTLY was something people overlooked or was scared to do. Daughters of the dragon was also such a nice group as well. And I’m excited to see how the new iron fist masters the fist in his own right.

  • @VivekYadav-ds8oz
    @VivekYadav-ds8oz 2 года назад +3

    I think the story they're going for here is an Asian who has been engulfed in Western culture and has lost his roots, and how he learns to appreciate and explore it back. Which is weird because that's somewhat an underlying theme in Shang Chi as well

  • @ChrisP-sc9sf
    @ChrisP-sc9sf 2 года назад +2

    Reading the comments on this and you wonder what do this people who are complaining about the change do. Why do they care, seriously why? It’s a fictional character who’s story is evolving. The mantle is going to another character. But an old saying, What’s in the well comes out in the bucket. Seems like a lot of people have a contaminated water source. Looking forward to see where Iron Fist takes us next. Growing up in the 70s , he was a favorite for his character design.

  • @rockerrockstar
    @rockerrockstar 2 года назад +12

    Danny already did that in season 2. Where his girlfriend became Iron Fist. I would rather they keep Fin Jones in the show and have both him and his girlfriend as Iron Fists.

    • @atticusdefense
      @atticusdefense 2 года назад +1

      I agree they did something unique with colleen it was different and not accepted by everyone but splitting the dynamic between the two of them definitely made there relationship more exiting for me. Here’s to hoping they follow up to that or at least pay homage to the series.

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      Me too, they should've go with that.
      Why not makes a series or film about the first iron fist or have new iron fist that takes place in the future.

  • @roguefrogger5823
    @roguefrogger5823 2 года назад +5

    Sorry no but I'm not okay with this. Woke culture is getting out of hand. The most endearing thing about Iron fist is where he came from and his journey to become the Iron fist. That's the part of the character I like and enjoy the most. That is what makes his character so endearing. I don't care what color the Iron fist is I don't care what sex the Iron fist is but unless whoever they give the Iron fist mantle to goes through the same character development that Danny Rand went through I'm not going to watch this.

  • @DragonHeart613
    @DragonHeart613 2 года назад +8

    Why can't they keep Danny as the main Iron Fist and also do a spinoff IF series focusing as one of the past incarnations of the character who is Asian. They can also do like a Green Lantern Corps thing where Danny decides to recruit & train other Iron Fist to battle criminals. Why replace Danny outright??? Ed Brubaker & Matt Fraction's Immortal Iron Fist was one of the character's best ever runs. Marvel already has Shang-Chi whose popularity is bigger than ever now thanks to his recent blockbuster movie so why not keep Danny??? Not every Martial Arts character has to be Asian.

  • @Jeffxm003
    @Jeffxm003 2 года назад +3

    Ugh I love marvel but if they keep pandering to the woke mob I’m done.

  • @NMbones98
    @NMbones98 2 года назад +1

    Atleast they didn't use the same character "Danny Rand" and turned him into a POC but I'm used to Rand being iron fist imo

  • @fendercuber
    @fendercuber 2 года назад +10

    This is so dumb. I hope that they MCU doesn't do this.

    • @whitedragon4552
      @whitedragon4552 2 года назад +4

      The MCU will most likely do exactly this. Unfortunately

    • @johngrayson9218
      @johngrayson9218 2 года назад

      They will

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад +3

      It's really not dumb like at all.
      I guess u hate the actual Iron Fist Netflix series for exploring the concept of when Danny gave the power to Colleen towards the end of S2.
      U was relieved to found out that Danny still has his powers but in a different way.
      It's the double standards for me. It's like saying that "After 50 years of Peter Parker being the one and only Spider-Man, he will no longer continue as Spider-Man. This new half black, half Puerto Rican character will be the new Spider-Man."
      Nowadays people with your mindset will consider that as "pandering"
      Keep in mind that before Danny Raid, there was an Asian Iron Fist

  • @jlong5664
    @jlong5664 2 года назад +5

    Don’t we already have Asian Iron Fist? His name is Shang Chi. 🤔

    • @eliteghost1001
      @eliteghost1001 2 года назад +1

      He's not Iron fist he never was

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад +2

      Shang-Chi and Iron Fist as a character, are two different characters....

    • @jlong5664
      @jlong5664 2 года назад

      Relax. It's a joke. Asian martial artist in Shang Chi... Iron Fist now will also be Asian martial artist. 🤷

  • @WILSHIRE25
    @WILSHIRE25 2 года назад +1

    Thor gives up Mjolnir to a Woman, Cap gave up THE SHIELD to a normal Black man who's isn't half the man Steve was. Syrum or not. (Thats a dig on Disney for doing a TERRIBLE job with such a cool character.) Their giving the Iron Mantle to a random Black Woman...Clinton giving up his bow to a young female street kid (instead of his fkn daughter!!) Hulks gonna get pushed out for the calmer, nicer She/Hulk. Antmans rumored to die and pass on his mantle to his daughter. Spider-Man is about to retire at 17 and now they're gonna have Danny Rand. Whom we haven't even had yet in the MCU!!!! Give up the Iron Fist to an Asian Person cause...He's Asian?!? What? Can White Men only be good fist fighters if we have super soldier syrum? Is it cuz of the Dragon? I thought we were done with China's B.S box office?!?
    [Thank God for Dr. Strange! Every other cool Male character has 1 maybe 2 films left. 1 being a team-up. Maybe.
    They absolutely need Tom and Chris Hemsworth so fkn bad. If they were smart they'd be trying to resign them to multi-film deals again.]

  • @JMTgpro
    @JMTgpro 2 года назад +6

    So ... Another comic that will be canceled due to poor sales as they focus more on image than history ._.
    To be honest, I don't care that much. I don't read much of Danny, but let's be honest, it's not going to work like it didn't the other dozen times when they tried to diversify the mantle of a legacy. Let the legacy be.

    • @MrBjax9000
      @MrBjax9000 2 года назад

      when hasn't it worked?

    • @JMTgpro
      @JMTgpro 2 года назад +1

      @@MrBjax9000 Every time ther series are canceled, the new characters are recycled and cast into a secondary groups with low sales or are forgotten from consciousness.

    • @brandonspencer5594
      @brandonspencer5594 2 года назад

      @@JMTgpro miles morales?

  • @redrussell2159
    @redrussell2159 2 года назад +8

    This is just another stunt that Marvel is doing to rid of Legacy characters. What Marvel characters next on the replacement list?

    • @bennyy7434
      @bennyy7434 2 года назад

      No one is getting rid of legacy characters. This is a simple mantle change. Just like when Dick Grayson or Terry McGinnis took over as Batman. Daniel Rand can still be “your” Iron Fist just like Peter Parker is “your” Spiderman.

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      Hulk, Thor, Starlord, Doctor Strange

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      @@bennyy7434 than why not have it take place in the future instead of a present

    • @redrussell2159
      @redrussell2159 2 года назад

      All Marvel and DC want to do is be in the media Spotlight that's why you keep gender-swapping race changing so I can care to than getting rid of Legacy characters characters they've been doing it for a while now

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      @@redrussell2159 okay

  • @Epiccomicgamer
    @Epiccomicgamer 2 года назад +13

    Cause shang chi was an awesome story and iron fist on Netflix was trash

    • @theverminator4219
      @theverminator4219 2 года назад +4

      Danny rand is great that show just had awful writing

    • @Epiccomicgamer
      @Epiccomicgamer 2 года назад +3

      @@theverminator4219 and awful casting as iron fist

    • @theverminator4219
      @theverminator4219 2 года назад +2

      @@Epiccomicgamer true, he looked like he had a yellow belt cause he peed on the white one

    • @Epiccomicgamer
      @Epiccomicgamer 2 года назад +1

      @@theverminator4219 he acted like someone peed on him 2

    • @Epiccomicgamer
      @Epiccomicgamer 2 года назад

      I wouldn't want that Danny rand defending my home it would've been destroyed millions of times

  • @hakeemmclaughlin1999
    @hakeemmclaughlin1999 2 года назад +6

    Instead of seeing as “ cultural appropriation “ I’m just gonna consider this passing of the torch. I mean Peter Parker is Spider-Man . Doesn’t mean we have to give his powers to a damn spider . I think it’s fine , just change.

  • @_Blu__
    @_Blu__ 2 года назад +3

    I'll give it 1-3 years till they bring Danny back

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      Which danny?

    • @_Blu__
      @_Blu__ 2 года назад

      @@silverstrike5904 what do you mean? There's only one Danny in the Iron fist lore

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      @@_Blu__ sorry I meant the same actor or different

    • @_Blu__
      @_Blu__ 2 года назад

      @@silverstrike5904 I'm sorry, what?

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      @@_Blu__ are you talking about finn jones iron fist or you want a recast?
      I prefer they keep the actor

  • @raysmith9324
    @raysmith9324 2 года назад +10

    I was hoping they would cast asian with the Netflix show as it seemed a more interesting story to see a spoiled American rich kid with no connection to his history or ancestral culture be thrust into a world of kung fu and magic and service. Just seemed like a more interesting story. And knowing Marvel Danny will still be floating around the universe kicking someone.

    • @bookonlegsbookonlegs8991
      @bookonlegsbookonlegs8991 2 года назад +1

      I am not even a big fan of Iron Fist. But even I know that you boiling his story down to just a spoiled American rich Kid is a oversimplification and just Plain wrong. Also not long ago thinking that only Asians know Kung Fu or Karate and should use it was racist.

    • @raysmith9324
      @raysmith9324 2 года назад

      My apologies for the confusion. I did not mean to suggest that was his story. Simply a story I thought would have been interesting. A contemporary child born into material wealth living the life of a prince completely disconnected from any sense of ancestry, or his family's cultural history. Only to be suddenly plunged into the most extreme surreal version of lineage and obligation. It seemed to me an interesting take on the character. I probably shouldn't have commented at all as most thoughts take such a long time to really explain that a expedited version so easily gets misconstrued. I in no way intended to imply all asians know kung fu or anything to that affect. If you are interested in things such as racism and prejudice. To think all asians know kung fu is prejudice, not racism. This will be the first and last day I comment. Thanks and be well

    • @bookonlegsbookonlegs8991
      @bookonlegsbookonlegs8991 2 года назад +1

      @@raysmith9324 So your never going to comment ever again because you talked to someone Who had a different opinion than you......... bit of a over reaction.

  • @jeromethrash2874
    @jeromethrash2874 2 года назад +1

    I'm not mad at Danny being Iron Fist it just really made me roll my eyes at the fact that Iron Fist was supposedly the best martial artist in hand-to-hand I know it's a comic book but that never sat well with me

  • @M567dk
    @M567dk 2 года назад +3

    As long as it pays respect to the past I do not care what they do with the character change. Respect the past and I am okay with it.

  • @renatoe9648
    @renatoe9648 2 года назад +1

    could be cool if they were writing it cause they had a good story to tell, but looks like its just to fill a representation checkbox so im not hopeful. No real problem with Danny Rand

  • @alifuller1658
    @alifuller1658 2 года назад +3

    WOW ASIAN PERSON IS GOING TO BE IRON FIST COOL KINDA LIKE A KUNG FU MOVIE AWESOME MAN 👊

  • @fortecapopkultury2772
    @fortecapopkultury2772 2 года назад

    So if you are not Asian you can't be good at martial arts? This change is ridiculous. There is Asian martial art superhero and his called Shang Chi. Isn't it more stereotypical that only Asian characters can do martial arts? Like what was wrong with Danny Rand? I never, not even once saw something related to him as being bad

  • @daniescott3000
    @daniescott3000 2 года назад +1

    Another unnecessary change that the FANS are going to hate, and will be changed back in two to three years.

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      The netflix series was getting better since season 2

  • @josecostamartins2019
    @josecostamartins2019 2 года назад

    are they going to do a asian iron fist because of the success of shang-chi and the legend of the ten rings, or because there was asian iron fist in the comics and they think this version of iron fist deserve to be told, because it has never told before??????????

  • @dylansearcy3966
    @dylansearcy3966 2 года назад +1

    They know the character of iron fist was originally white

  • @orhanamin1347
    @orhanamin1347 2 года назад +1

    Also is John Campea gonna be in it?

  • @brucelau2023
    @brucelau2023 2 года назад

    they made iron fist into a fucking stereotype that's what they fucking did

  • @babyjesuslovesme1219
    @babyjesuslovesme1219 2 года назад

    Fist still has his vast skill and experience and can still be a crime fighting asset

  • @samarthur1847
    @samarthur1847 2 года назад

    I dare say someone has already pointed this out but in Cockney Rhyming Slang “Danny Rand” is Hand and was way before Marvel or Timely comics existed

  • @angelaarmie5789
    @angelaarmie5789 2 года назад

    i don't always know what younger people are into but when newer things come out and stories change perhaps it's not made for us anymore. not everything belongs to me and what i want to see. i've had my heroes and stories that helped me learn. in my own way i'll keep learning. keeping things going for newer peeps is more important than what i want and need to see or be entertained by.

  • @elihutch7193
    @elihutch7193 2 года назад

    Wouldn't you be putting Asian people in a box because you only want them to be in martial arts roles.

  • @milkman-30
    @milkman-30 2 года назад +1

    I mean it is a mantle, there isn’t just one iron fist so like eh? Doesn’t bother me at all.

  • @sgtdonaldduck
    @sgtdonaldduck 2 года назад +1

    Got angry until I seen they wasn't changing danny lol

  • @eliteghost1001
    @eliteghost1001 2 года назад +3

    Remember when everyone was mad that they casted a white British man to play iron fist and not a Asian actor well guess what we now have Asian fist in comics🙄

    • @DayneAW
      @DayneAW 2 года назад

      "Asian fist"
      Yikes 😬
      Nice and casual with it.

  • @shakeemdiggz2354
    @shakeemdiggz2354 2 года назад

    What happens to Danny? Will the new character, just take over Danny's storylines?

  • @recorz98
    @recorz98 2 года назад +7

    This is woke crap.

    • @terrellthaddies7867
      @terrellthaddies7867 2 года назад

      It's a mantle. The iron fist before Danny was Asian.
      In the actual Netflix show, Danny passed the mantle to Colleen Wing
      It's the double standards for me. It's like saying that "After 50 years of Peter Parker being the one and only Spider-Man, he will no longer continue as Spider-Man. This new half black, half Puerto Rican character will be the new Spider-Man."
      Nowadays people with your mindset will consider that as "pandering"

  • @DayneAW
    @DayneAW 2 года назад +2

    I love the comments of complaining about "diversity", "pandering", and "woke" nonsense, and the "bubububut there's already an AsIaN character! Has nobody heard of Shang Chi!!!" comments, like "Okay that's enough! We don't need anymore of ThOsE people. It's will mess up our cishet white male favoritism!".
    Fragility on full display.

  • @brucebegone7185
    @brucebegone7185 2 года назад

    The real question is if this new fist will be close to luke cage

  • @sgtdonaldduck
    @sgtdonaldduck 2 года назад +2

    Danny rand will be back.
    Bring back orson randall.

  • @pinktanukiii
    @pinktanukiii 2 года назад

    Danny Rand iron fist action figures skyrocket in price

  • @Jacksabbath44
    @Jacksabbath44 2 года назад

    Making Danny Rand half-asian would be better, with a n obviously mixed actor, but it makes sense in the Mantle kind of way, they don't even have to kill DR off, they could make him take another moniker, even a villain, it's not like Iron Fist is Superman, it could even work to introduce the succesion of a moniker as a concept in a movie, the only other hero characters that do that concepts are The Phantom and Zorro and their latest movies are from the 90s

  • @theskyybay420
    @theskyybay420 2 года назад +2

    So did Danny really change his last name to Fist or do you really just mess up spelling and saying things just so people can comment and correct you? Is your channel sinking that fast? Dont sellout like your on the corner.

  • @vaughnmitchell3030
    @vaughnmitchell3030 2 года назад

    In the comic book, he was Asian, but the old iron fist was Asian.

  • @tylerfrizzell3319
    @tylerfrizzell3319 2 года назад

    Always have liked iron fist but it'll be interesting to see where they go, andnif they will bring rand back in some capacity

  • @alextyson7717
    @alextyson7717 2 года назад +1

    Danny Rand is the first original Caucasian Iron Fist. cuz you always will hold that title and nobody can take it away from him. if they take the power away from him he was the first one Caucasian to become the Iron Fist. is still be sad if give up the power of the Iron Fist . if they do that in the comic books that would be fine. Danny Rand will always be the original Caucasian Iron Fist.

  • @gustavomejia2407
    @gustavomejia2407 2 года назад

    Rip Danny Rand. There’s no place for a straight white male lead actor anymore

  • @AttackCop
    @AttackCop 2 года назад

    The Next Iron Fist will be an Asian Transwoman to appease the WOKE crowd

  • @marktolsom1998
    @marktolsom1998 2 года назад +2

    Iron fist should’ve been half Asian half white in the first place,that way should be”

  • @houseofMtattoos
    @houseofMtattoos 2 года назад

    Sounds good. I agree with the direction.

  • @orhanamin1347
    @orhanamin1347 2 года назад

    Because for John Campea.

  • @nivagcomicsreviews7074
    @nivagcomicsreviews7074 2 года назад +1

    Danny will always be iron fist but look at ghost rider new host it works if done right

  • @WarTheory
    @WarTheory 2 года назад

    🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑....And to think sabertooth’s first appearance was an iron fist

  • @djcjr1x1
    @djcjr1x1 2 года назад

    It's about time, Steven Yeun start getting swol your new character awaits!

  • @NinjaPandallnight
    @NinjaPandallnight 2 года назад

    The iron fist show sucked so bad. You can tell that actor had zero martial art skill

  • @SicSemperBeats
    @SicSemperBeats 2 года назад

    Didnt know there were so many iron fist fans here lol

  • @oldmandeadpool1064
    @oldmandeadpool1064 2 года назад

    Danny rand will be an iron fist in like a year again

  • @tylersaez4095
    @tylersaez4095 2 года назад

    I don't see why this is a big deal. Superheroes giving up their identities and having someone else take over is tradition. Besides we all know Danny will get the mantle back eventually. Even if this new guy gets really popular like Miles or Kamala they'll probably just find a way for there to be two Iron Fists. This is something every superhero has done and we've been doing this for decades. So unless you're new to comics you should know this is standard procedure. For the record I'm not saying this because I'm dismissive of the chance. I just know people are going to complain despite this happening a million times before.

    • @fortecapopkultury2772
      @fortecapopkultury2772 2 года назад

      It's not always like that. See Mar-vell and Captain Marvel. I like Carol but there are examples when original character is put aside and everything points out that they wanna do it with Danny

    • @tylersaez4095
      @tylersaez4095 2 года назад

      @@fortecapopkultury2772 True there are exceptions but Mar-Vell is kind of a strange case. His death was just such a big moment that no one wants to undo it (yet). But again I don't see that happening with Iron Fist unless the new guy proves to be really popular. Alternatively if whatever new identity they give Danny winds up taking off they might just leave it be.

    • @darky1595
      @darky1595 2 года назад

      @@tylersaez4095
      That's just terrible man, iron fist not being Asian was always a part of his character, and some of these "Diversity" characters are just terrible like Riri Williams and Elektra as Daredevil.

  • @samhall8880
    @samhall8880 2 года назад +2

    Doesn't matter to me. I like Shang Chi and old fashioned Kung Fu movies, I wouldn't mind the new Danny as Asian or biracial. In the end I don't care about race, I care about characters. Stereotypes be damned.

  • @Spiderweb444
    @Spiderweb444 2 года назад +2

    Tbh Iron fist is a legacy mantle and it could be interesting. But then again the straus quo always comes back and maybe in a few years we will have Danny back.

  • @funnywackysillyman7780
    @funnywackysillyman7780 2 года назад

    He'll be back

  • @felixpoventud3914
    @felixpoventud3914 2 года назад +1

    Iron fist is awesome! Thats a go idea!

  • @kingthedemon1226
    @kingthedemon1226 2 года назад

    I dont care about the race of the character. as long as its a good, original character.

  • @orhanamin1347
    @orhanamin1347 2 года назад

    Ummm... John Campea did it.

  • @mdlcorp
    @mdlcorp 2 года назад

    Maybe, could it be possible that the reason is, I don't know... MONEY?

  • @DikaWolf
    @DikaWolf 2 года назад +1

    So Colleen Wing?

    • @johnphoenix1175
      @johnphoenix1175 2 года назад +1

      You and I seem to be the only ones who remember she exists! I assumed she was Asian but maybe I was wrong. If they're going to change again after just passing the power of the Iron Fist to her then the story and actor better be perfect otherwise I'd prefer they let Colleen Wing continue and possibly make her Shang-Chi's love interest since him and Katie are just friends.

    • @DikaWolf
      @DikaWolf 2 года назад +1

      @@johnphoenix1175 Colleen Wing is Japanese in the comics and in the Netflix series, though the actress, Jessica Henwick, is British of Singaporean-Chinese decent.

  • @Aloyhero
    @Aloyhero 2 года назад

    I never read a iron fist comic in my life

    • @silverstrike5904
      @silverstrike5904 2 года назад

      Me too, or Marvel characters.
      Except for spiderman

  • @danmasterize
    @danmasterize 2 года назад

    Isn’t it kind of stereo typical to make the Asian guy a Martial arts master I find it funny in their pursuit for diversity they make a stereotypical character

    • @brandonspencer5594
      @brandonspencer5594 2 года назад +1

      So is a white and black guy learning and becoming the best at martial arts
      Cough death stroke Batman bronze tiger captain America(steroids lol) and many many many more