I hate that we talk about simulacras and matrices as being replaced so easily because of power creeping. It feels bad as someone who has dished out quite amount of money on the game. It's good that Zero is still valuable, though. While I hope we get another flame support, I don't want Zero to be replaced. Sigh. Anyway! I enjoyed this tier list. Thanks!
very fair review. thanks. for me that maxed lan anabella and lin/fiona, it still worked fine for me. i just did a 100x apophis raid challenge assist today in SEA. raid train carry.
@@RedefineGamer yeah, if they continue adjusting the old limited this will be really great. usually, spender quit because of power creeping. they should watch what they do with the weapon that the spenders went for. making these lose value will deter them from supporting the game. the spenders are the reason why the game is still running.
@@RedefineGamer yes, and they also need to make spenders standout in terms of pve, besides the games pvp is balanced so its fine. as long as they boost their spenders in pve it will go well, besides f2p does not bring any on the table other than being part of the community. actually i dont like the idea of f2p, if you like someting you support it so it will be successful.. f2p are just freeloaders. i dont sugarcoat reality, im a blunt fck if its about truth.
@@granddaddy6249 f2p are not freeloaders. All f2p players are potential customers. The problem is the game monetization is just too greedy and pay to win. Not only that but it's only pay to win if you continue paying over and over otherwise you fall off because of power creep. I'm f2p and I would never waste money gambling online for a character that will only stay meta for a few months. I feel sorry for anyone who fell for that trap and will continue to do so.
technically, Zeke is non physical element with physical weapon abilities. Fenrir trait, 3 element techs in VA is working for flame-phys team based on Zeke, and Lin gives balanced field.
This tierlist helped a lot. I realised if I wanna have any chance of clearing stuff in higher levels I need to focus on one epement and as a f2p it probably will be flame or physical. On account of them working decently well at around thw a0-1 range where as volt needs a6 on like 2 characters xD
That is true. Volt usually needs more Advancements. But the other elements function very well at low advancements. So if you focus on one you can have a really strong team
@@Chronoic Pick either Flame, Phys, Volt of Frost. Once you know the Element you want to do use your available resources to max the premier character. So if Phys I would be trying to A6 Zeke and get Max Matrixes. Then save until next Phys unit comes out
You should have double rated cobalt you mentioned it but didn't give her enough At A6 she's like an A in my opinion. Especially now that's she's on the standard banner
@@RedefineGamer Is your huma rating for dps team or is it also for tank team ? The game gave me A2 huma for free and i have Lan already so thinking a tank team is in order. Also, will Lan stay S tier for tank even after the new character comes out ?
I know the powercreep of this game is high, but it feels unbelievable that Feise is gonna replace Lan on the Flame team especially with Lan's combat and exploration skills.
I think it is due to Zeke to where he provides so much for Flame. You have the 30% damage boost for Main Slot Weapon. 50% at A6. 26% boost for Flame after casting skill. So once Feise is her I just see her replacing Lan. Won't know for sure until testing and seeing her Global Numbers
I could not decide if I wanted to go flame ice or physical. First thing I did was pull Fiona second thing I did was pull Zeke. After that I went and grabbed C1 Yulan. Then I said screw it and pulled paintbrush. I'm just about to get my first star on paintbrush girl. As far as physical for the time being I'm just going to stick with Claudia because I already have her at C4 and got a sake at C3 the rest of the characters I have I don't really use
Thanks for the video! Right now I got Liu A0, Fiona A0. Low spender (only monthly pack) 5 days in, so I still have time before the anniversary event ends. Should I hoard for Feise? pull for Zeke? I pulled for Fiona 1st cause ppl said that she’s good for everything. Assuming that I don’t pull for Zeke and save for Feise, my team would be: Liu, Fiona, Feise If I do pull for Zeke and somehow manage to get Feise: 1. Zeke, Liu, Feise 2. Fiona, Liu, Feise Everyone has different opinions and input and it’s making me confused. Some say Fiona, some say Zeke, some say this and that. So idk tbh.
I would say Zeke he gives a big boost to Flame. with the 30% boost for Main DPS and 26% Boost for Flame Damage and 5 % increase for being in DPS resonance. and you just need A0
GREAT TIER LIST! For f2p would Lan still get replaced by Fiese? So far I heard the new flame f2p comp will be Fiese, Li Huo, Lan. The theory from what I heard is that both Fiese and Li Huo use ammo multiplier from Lan's A1. Whats the f2p flame comp looking like with Fiese?
I personally think an A0 zeke is really good on any account. I think for Flame he is really good as well increasing Flame Damage by 26% just activating his skill. I would get one copy and save the rest for Feise / Altered
Just started on PS and been watching your content and its super good stuff...im a low spender/f2p and was able to pull 2 fionas & gnonno this weekend to add to my a2 Zeke for the phys comp and its doing great at 39k cs & server max lvl is only 48, my question is are the Zeke matrices that good that it should be my next focus w/ DC? I only have one i got thru pity just using the free ones ive been getting, but after watching this vid is it more important to try to get max Zeke matrices or rolling for a A1 gnono & A3 Zeke?
Tough question I would probably say Zeke Matrixes so you can get a really good background matrix set. Plus next Phys could be a replacement for Gnonno. But A1 is really good so probably about even
@@RedefineGamer Thx that helps alot..i havent invested a ton into matrices yet so ik thats my next step on the ladder...then i can use my pity and coins to get gnonno and then go from there, prov try to max Zeke or his matrices til the new banners drops..i never knew this game existed 2 weeks ago and youve been a bignhelp w/ your content
@@mockmansini If possible I would try to go for Max Zeke. No real upgrade though unless you get A6. But that will be really strong for Phys and other elements. From there you could consider A1 Gnonno or save for future characters
@@RedefineGamer I was thinking about that too..ive had some decent luck on Zeke pulls so I think I can go for A6 and use tokens & pity to try to force the A1 Gnnono once i have the A6 zeke and 4 pc matrices
As a new player from playstation if this has told me anything it's that there's some serious power creep in this game, like all this dude is talking about is how everything is gonna be replaced
New weapons come with a rerun of their element's old weapons but unfortunately a new weapon's A0-1 is typically better than previous weapon's A5-6 (or at least it seems that way, they have buffed some old weapons, so that's not really true anymore). I think it'd be better if the previous weapon's A6 was about as good as the new one's A3. It'd be nice to be able to upgrade instead and only pick up every other weapon, unless you prefer playing the new one. Whale's would probably whale anyway but with a little luck, and staying focused on one element, the rest of us would be able to play A2-3's or 5-6's depending on how much we like the weapons we already have and how well our pulls went.
Question, (I'm new to the game) Should I pick KoKo or Zero for my free SSR? (i already have Zeke, Nemesis, Tsubasa, King, and Crow) Currently tunning Zeke,Crow and Ene.
I’m still pretty new and I was wondering, what is Alter? And why was it on the tier list for flame ppl? (Sorry if I sound dumb or whatever but I just don’t know)
Altered is like the extra Element besides the main ones (Flame, Phys, Frost & Volt) it is usually a character that helps the main 4 elements. And the only character so far are Lin and Fiona. Usually takes alot of banners before a new Altered gets added to the game so when it does usually out classes the previous one by alot. Where Fiona is alot better than Lin
I got zeke A2, king a0, what would you recommend for support?. Unfortunately i dont have anything i can put phys with zeke, so im going flame. New on consoles
I would probably save and try to get a high stared Feise. You can use Zeke as a main DPS especially with his trait for flame. And if you get some more free gold nucleus rolls. Hopefully you get Claudia
He makes the main DPS do 30% more damage by activating his skill. With Flame this is increase by another 26% Damage and a 5% increase due to be in DPS resonance. Matrixes will hurt but Zeke gives flame alot buffs
@@RedefineGamer at what point is zeke is an upgrade over my fiona? also i'm not seeing where the first 30% dmg increase is coming from now that i'm reading his skill.
@@Kaileris It is the last paragraph at the bottom of his skill. Serpent Chain Member can transfer 30% of the acual damage dealt by the Wanderer's main slot weapon. Technically not Main DPS just Main slot weapon so all weapons benefit. Also if he is A6 the 30% is increased to 50% for Single targets.
For raiding i am currently on heal, if i'm exploring i need some dmg because coco/zero doesnt have that much dmg lol also for Phantasm i need some dps. Guess you wont make a Healer tier list because its no element. Everyone is telling "coco or zero" but can you play both? because zero is on A5 for me and Coco A1
@@l-darkstar3980 currently playing fiona, lin and frigg on open world but in raids i do play fiona, coco and last spot is open. Maybe i'll do another alterd or zero not sure
I'm Frost but I'm considering pulling Zeke and trying the pity on Liu Huo. Flame is currently my weakest element since I've only got A0 Cobalt, A3 King and A2 Huma (A1 Zero). I do have A1 Lin, A3 Fiona and A4 Claudia (can buy more), so I can just use Altered for Sequential instead of A3 Fiona, A0 Cobalt and A3 King or A3 Fiona, A0 Zeke and A0 Liu Huo. I think the later would be better but I'm not sure (for matrices, I've got Fiona A0 4-piece, A0 4-piece (A1 2-piece) Haboela or A0-A1 4-piece Scylla (started upgrading Scylla before getting Yulan matrices but can afford 2 more) and A3 Shiro/Samir). Should I pull Zeke and use the pity, if I don't get him early? (Would rather gamble the pity & spend the 30 extra pulls than get 80 Black Gold but that might be a mistake as well.) BTW, I really appreciate these tier lists, they're done well. I sometimes have trouble following your new character videos and think they'd benefit from a chart at the end, similar to what you've been doing with these.
Thank you and I could try adding that to the showcases. If you have A0 Zeke would probably get more copies of Liu Hou. For Matrixes would go Fiona Fiona. Zeke Scylla and Liu Hou DPS Matrixes (Shiro Samir)
@@RedefineGamer I've only pulled on Frost or Altered limited banners, until now. I have at least one copy of everything, that's now in the standard pool, except for Ruby (waiting for Lyra to join before a spending spree). I advanced Claudia some, for Altered team, then got cold feet but I'd assume that Zeke plus Claudia is a better team than any team I can put together for Flame... so why not gamble 1 Red Nucleus, on Liu Huo, to see if I win the 50/50? I'm not planning to get advancements for her. I want to save most of what I have for Ling Han & whatever the next Altered character's name is. Would I be better off getting Zeke's A1 and continuing to use an Altered comp for Flame Sequential (until I pull Ruby at least) or would I be better off getting Zeke and Liu Huo both at A0? If I lose the pity, I'm only getting an A0 Zeke, it's just a matter of wasting 1 extra nucleus or not. If I win the pity, I'm either getting Zeke's A1 or both Zeke and Liu Huo at A0. Or I guess I could win the pity then not spend the 20 something other pulls to get Zeke's A1 but I don't really like that plan (I'm already 50-60 pulls in).
Im screwed bought 2 piece ruby but now I see I needed to buy 2 piece cobalt. But you say it doesn’t work off hand, but why does it increase my flame attack when I switch to a other weapon?
Lol, lan wil be replaced? what a joke! on CN triple flame is all the rage right now with lui/lan/feise (meta). In actual, combat Anna is even stronger than Lui, in dps, cause of flame resist ignore. In raids, in bygone, Anna just output even more dps than Lui. The down side of Anna is that her bullet might miss, but in repeatable content like bygone BR 49, BR 50, you can keep trying to get a lucky attempt where all your bullets don't miss.
PS: as a side note. All my whale friends, including me, when using flame team, we all stop using lui and switch back to Anna after her buff. Especially in high level bygone, Anna's flame resist ignore just make her do even more dps than lui. If you need just a tiny bit more dps, Anna is the way to go.
Hard to say until Fiese comes out especially with global. Also not sure how you get rid of Zeke especially if he is A6. He give Main Dps 30% Boost. 50% at A6, and Flame 26% boost from his skill. So I would think Zeke would at least replace Lan. For Anna I could see her beating Liu. Think it just come down to rotation and positioning. But when Fiese comes out I think Liu Huo will be better since she has a on field summon mechanic making her stronger. With Flame summons being Lan Parasols or Liu Huo Caligraphy Characters
@@RedefineGamer I can't predict for global who will be replaced, but... on CN the meta is Liu/lan/feise.... where feise replaced fiona on CN.... while for global zeke is around 10-15% stronger than fiona. (for flame), I can see.. feise be 20% stronger than fiona... also ..u forgot. Double buffer: Liu/zeke/fiona is actually weaker than Liu/lan/zeke, so.. it's not that double buffer will be better for Liu (lan is deceptively strong for Liu, if not, then double buffer would have been top dps). Also it's my understanding that they are pushing for triple same element, just look at how Mimi and Feise's awaking are all for triple same element. That's why I feel we will have a super high chance of getting Liu/lan/feise as meta for global and actually replace zeke....(remember zeke is just a last min.. weird addition for global) THAT's WHY... it's stupid to pull for zeke for flame team in my option, cuz it has a high chance to get replaced so soon.. (but if u are a meta slave , then.. too bad).....
It is when you Equip at least 1 weapon of any type. Which Increase your final damage and damage reduction by 5%, shatter and healing effect by 20%. In team play, you gain an additional 35% final damage increase and an additional 10% damage reduction. But DPS Residence (consisting of 2 DPS weapons) has 5% more Final Damage. So if it is possible you want to always be in DPS resonance for your DPS team
I think when the next Altered comes out she will be replace for DPS. But for healer she will be used for a very long time there are not that many options.
I have Liu Huo in one account and on another I have zeke I only use the zeke free pulls I got and I got him from them on that account and I failed the pity for Liu Huo on the second account I want to main fire which account should I main?
Wait, so Zero is actually broken? I'm actually not trolling trying to get him to 3* just because I liked him? And Zeke is S for flame too..? Wow. Hm, now I'm thinking of a final unit to complete them 🤔
Yes Zeke and Fiona is looking like to be the best combo in the game for almost any element. Believe when Mimi comes out. Zeke Fiona Mimi will be strong
Tripple Flame should be really strong. But think there is still a good chance Fiona beats it. Or at least next Altered. So would not invest to much in her. But A1 is really strong
you wouldn't want to drop zeke in the team but that's originally the case in CN (LH LAN FEI). tho in global zeke is also a flame support weapon that's basically stronger than either fiona or lan.
Never got the Zero pushing people do, still don't. Shield uptime is poor, heal uptime and potency is poor, buffs require wasting discharges on Zero. If you're not healing, the slot would be better on someone who brings more offensively. If you are healing, the slot would be better spent on healing and also less conditional buffs. If you're healing then you just shouldn't be a "flame main" right now. I'm sure the next Bene weapon will be Flame or Frost... but even then, a Flame Bene would just demote Zero who already shouldn't make the cut for a healer.
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I hate that we talk about simulacras and matrices as being replaced so easily because of power creeping. It feels bad as someone who has dished out quite amount of money on the game. It's good that Zero is still valuable, though. While I hope we get another flame support, I don't want Zero to be replaced. Sigh. Anyway! I enjoyed this tier list. Thanks!
You're welcome. I do wish Character especially matrixes had more staying power as well
very fair review. thanks.
for me that maxed lan anabella and lin/fiona, it still worked fine for me. i just did a 100x apophis raid challenge assist today in SEA. raid train carry.
Those Anna buffs are crazy. I could see that.
@@RedefineGamer yeah, if they continue adjusting the old limited this will be really great. usually, spender quit because of power creeping. they should watch what they do with the weapon that the spenders went for. making these lose value will deter them from supporting the game. the spenders are the reason why the game is still running.
@@granddaddy6249 I agree it would be great to have units constantly buff to stay relevant so you don't feel pressured to spend
@@RedefineGamer yes, and they also need to make spenders standout in terms of pve, besides the games pvp is balanced so its fine. as long as they boost their spenders in pve it will go well, besides f2p does not bring any on the table other than being part of the community. actually i dont like the idea of f2p, if you like someting you support it so it will be successful.. f2p are just freeloaders. i dont sugarcoat reality, im a blunt fck if its about truth.
@@granddaddy6249 f2p are not freeloaders. All f2p players are potential customers. The problem is the game monetization is just too greedy and pay to win. Not only that but it's only pay to win if you continue paying over and over otherwise you fall off because of power creep. I'm f2p and I would never waste money gambling online for a character that will only stay meta for a few months. I feel sorry for anyone who fell for that trap and will continue to do so.
I wait impatiently for volt 🔥
Trying to do these faster. Just wait a little bit longer
@@RedefineGamer sure ! Thanks for this quality content !
Same ❤❤ team volt
Thanks for the knowledge. I pulled Zeke and I'm currently saving to get Liu Hou, and then Feise.
You're Welcome glad it helped
Been waiting on this one!!
Sorry for the wait took longer than expected
@@RedefineGamer well worth the wait 😌
Flame less gooo
Yes I finally did it
You’re a creep, stop stalking people on playstation and go outside and enjoy life for once
aggre since I'm flame main too
but anna at a0 beat a0 liu in q single target gameplay
but again that only in zeke lan team, so great tier list
Thank you, I could see that with all her buffs. At Liu Hou get a big boost at A6
Thanks a lot for this well-detailed video
You're Welcome
technically, Zeke is non physical element with physical weapon abilities. Fenrir trait, 3 element techs in VA is working for flame-phys team based on Zeke, and Lin gives balanced field.
Interesting that is nice know can go rainbow with Zeke
This tierlist helped a lot. I realised if I wanna have any chance of clearing stuff in higher levels I need to focus on one epement and as a f2p it probably will be flame or physical. On account of them working decently well at around thw a0-1 range where as volt needs a6 on like 2 characters xD
That is true. Volt usually needs more Advancements. But the other elements function very well at low advancements. So if you focus on one you can have a really strong team
@@RedefineGamer When you mean focus on one element do you mean, just get 1 copy, or go all in on accensions for that one element?
@@Chronoic Pick either Flame, Phys, Volt of Frost. Once you know the Element you want to do use your available resources to max the premier character. So if Phys I would be trying to A6 Zeke and get Max Matrixes. Then save until next Phys unit comes out
You should have double rated cobalt you mentioned it but didn't give her enough At A6 she's like an A in my opinion. Especially now that's she's on the standard banner
I could see that if you can get her to A6 she is really good.
@@RedefineGamer Is your huma rating for dps team or is it also for tank team ? The game gave me A2 huma for free and i have Lan already so thinking a tank team is in order. Also, will Lan stay S tier for tank even after the new character comes out ?
Thanks for these videos! Not a lot of info on characters for some reason. However I do believe this game to be underrated.
You're Welcome. I do recommend you don't spend more than affordable at the end of the day it is a game
I know the powercreep of this game is high, but it feels unbelievable that Feise is gonna replace Lan on the Flame team especially with Lan's combat and exploration skills.
I think it is due to Zeke to where he provides so much for Flame. You have the 30% damage boost for Main Slot Weapon. 50% at A6. 26% boost for Flame after casting skill. So once Feise is her I just see her replacing Lan. Won't know for sure until testing and seeing her Global Numbers
Great video, thanks a lot .
You're Welcome
I could not decide if I wanted to go flame ice or physical. First thing I did was pull Fiona second thing I did was pull Zeke. After that I went and grabbed C1 Yulan. Then I said screw it and pulled paintbrush. I'm just about to get my first star on paintbrush girl. As far as physical for the time being I'm just going to stick with Claudia because I already have her at C4 and got a sake at C3 the rest of the characters I have I don't really use
That is a good start you can play both flame and Ice and see how you like the playstyle. And decide from there.
Thanks for the video!
Right now I got Liu A0, Fiona A0. Low spender (only monthly pack)
5 days in, so I still have time before the anniversary event ends.
Should I hoard for Feise? pull for Zeke?
I pulled for Fiona 1st cause ppl said that she’s good for everything.
Assuming that I don’t pull for Zeke and save for Feise, my team would be:
Liu, Fiona, Feise
If I do pull for Zeke and somehow manage to get Feise:
1. Zeke, Liu, Feise
2. Fiona, Liu, Feise
Everyone has different opinions and input and it’s making me confused. Some say Fiona, some say Zeke, some say this and that. So idk tbh.
I would say Zeke he gives a big boost to Flame. with the 30% boost for Main DPS and 26% Boost for Flame Damage and 5 % increase for being in DPS resonance. and you just need A0
GREAT TIER LIST! For f2p would Lan still get replaced by Fiese? So far I heard the new flame f2p comp will be Fiese, Li Huo, Lan. The theory from what I heard is that both Fiese and Li Huo use ammo multiplier from Lan's A1. Whats the f2p flame comp looking like with Fiese?
I saw you answered a similiar question that Fiona will likely beat triple fire. Ty for answering comments!
Np I think Zeke will be really strong for Flame
should i get zeke a0 or keep saving for feise a3/ new altered my team rn is a0 fiona a1 brush girl and a1 lan i have 377 pulls
I personally think an A0 zeke is really good on any account. I think for Flame he is really good as well increasing Flame Damage by 26% just activating his skill. I would get one copy and save the rest for Feise / Altered
I have 0 limited matrices, should i get lan or Fei ones? Since flame is up rn.
Quite surprised to see Cobalt up there
I would get Feise Matrixes
Just started on PS and been watching your content and its super good stuff...im a low spender/f2p and was able to pull 2 fionas & gnonno this weekend to add to my a2 Zeke for the phys comp and its doing great at 39k cs & server max lvl is only 48, my question is are the Zeke matrices that good that it should be my next focus w/ DC? I only have one i got thru pity just using the free ones ive been getting, but after watching this vid is it more important to try to get max Zeke matrices or rolling for a A1 gnono & A3 Zeke?
Tough question I would probably say Zeke Matrixes so you can get a really good background matrix set. Plus next Phys could be a replacement for Gnonno. But A1 is really good so probably about even
@@RedefineGamer Thx that helps alot..i havent invested a ton into matrices yet so ik thats my next step on the ladder...then i can use my pity and coins to get gnonno and then go from there, prov try to max Zeke or his matrices til the new banners drops..i never knew this game existed 2 weeks ago and youve been a bignhelp w/ your content
@@mockmansini If possible I would try to go for Max Zeke. No real upgrade though unless you get A6. But that will be really strong for Phys and other elements. From there you could consider A1 Gnonno or save for future characters
@@RedefineGamer I was thinking about that too..ive had some decent luck on Zeke pulls so I think I can go for A6 and use tokens & pity to try to force the A1 Gnnono once i have the A6 zeke and 4 pc matrices
As a new player from playstation if this has told me anything it's that there's some serious power creep in this game, like all this dude is talking about is how everything is gonna be replaced
At least for DPS when new element unit comes out. Usually kicks off someone in the team. Supports do last longer though.
New weapons come with a rerun of their element's old weapons but unfortunately a new weapon's A0-1 is typically better than previous weapon's A5-6 (or at least it seems that way, they have buffed some old weapons, so that's not really true anymore). I think it'd be better if the previous weapon's A6 was about as good as the new one's A3. It'd be nice to be able to upgrade instead and only pick up every other weapon, unless you prefer playing the new one. Whale's would probably whale anyway but with a little luck, and staying focused on one element, the rest of us would be able to play A2-3's or 5-6's depending on how much we like the weapons we already have and how well our pulls went.
Question, (I'm new to the game) Should I pick KoKo or Zero for my free SSR? (i already have Zeke, Nemesis, Tsubasa, King, and Crow) Currently tunning Zeke,Crow and Ene.
Both are good to have Personally I use Coco more so I would go with Coco.
I’m still pretty new and I was wondering, what is Alter? And why was it on the tier list for flame ppl? (Sorry if I sound dumb or whatever but I just don’t know)
Altered is like the extra Element besides the main ones (Flame, Phys, Frost & Volt) it is usually a character that helps the main 4 elements. And the only character so far are Lin and Fiona. Usually takes alot of banners before a new Altered gets added to the game so when it does usually out classes the previous one by alot. Where Fiona is alot better than Lin
can you do a tier list for traits?
That usually depends on the comp / Characters you have. One is not really better than the other.
I got zeke A2, king a0, what would you recommend for support?. Unfortunately i dont have anything i can put phys with zeke, so im going flame. New on consoles
I would probably save and try to get a high stared Feise. You can use Zeke as a main DPS especially with his trait for flame. And if you get some more free gold nucleus rolls. Hopefully you get Claudia
rn my team is zeke a2, king a1, zero a1. Still no claudia lol
What does Zeke actually do to support the team? Is it worth replacing A6 Fiona + 4pc for A0 Zeke No pc?
He makes the main DPS do 30% more damage by activating his skill. With Flame this is increase by another 26% Damage and a 5% increase due to be in DPS resonance. Matrixes will hurt but Zeke gives flame alot buffs
@@RedefineGamer at what point is zeke is an upgrade over my fiona? also i'm not seeing where the first 30% dmg increase is coming from now that i'm reading his skill.
@@Kaileris It is the last paragraph at the bottom of his skill. Serpent Chain Member can transfer 30% of the acual damage dealt by the Wanderer's main slot weapon. Technically not Main DPS just Main slot weapon so all weapons benefit. Also if he is A6 the 30% is increased to 50% for Single targets.
hi, i got zeke and liu matrices, do i pull for fiona matrices too or just save for feise?
I would save for Feise
Kinda unlucky timing for me that i went for frost and yulan then disappeared xD cant find and alter for her because shes rated everywhere as S tier
Zeke would be as strong as her. Meme should come out the strongest but Volt takes alot of investment
For raiding i am currently on heal, if i'm exploring i need some dmg because coco/zero doesnt have that much dmg lol also for Phantasm i need some dps. Guess you wont make a Healer tier list because its no element. Everyone is telling "coco or zero" but can you play both? because zero is on A5 for me and Coco A1
@@CrazYxReApErx3You can if you have Fenrir for the balance resonance. If you want to play rainbow team fenrir is a must.
@@l-darkstar3980 currently playing fiona, lin and frigg on open world but in raids i do play fiona, coco and last spot is open. Maybe i'll do another alterd or zero not sure
with lan c1 anna is stronger than liu. Lan c1 shatter multiplier works only for anna. in other cases its just passive shatter from parasols on field
Oh thought it increases all shatter by amount of Parisol. But I Have notice Anna has better Shatter
I'm Frost but I'm considering pulling Zeke and trying the pity on Liu Huo.
Flame is currently my weakest element since I've only got A0 Cobalt, A3 King and A2 Huma (A1 Zero). I do have A1 Lin, A3 Fiona and A4 Claudia (can buy more), so I can just use Altered for Sequential instead of A3 Fiona, A0 Cobalt and A3 King or A3 Fiona, A0 Zeke and A0 Liu Huo. I think the later would be better but I'm not sure (for matrices, I've got Fiona A0 4-piece, A0 4-piece (A1 2-piece) Haboela or A0-A1 4-piece Scylla (started upgrading Scylla before getting Yulan matrices but can afford 2 more) and A3 Shiro/Samir).
Should I pull Zeke and use the pity, if I don't get him early? (Would rather gamble the pity & spend the 30 extra pulls than get 80 Black Gold but that might be a mistake as well.)
BTW, I really appreciate these tier lists, they're done well. I sometimes have trouble following your new character videos and think they'd benefit from a chart at the end, similar to what you've been doing with these.
Thank you and I could try adding that to the showcases. If you have A0 Zeke would probably get more copies of Liu Hou. For Matrixes would go Fiona Fiona. Zeke Scylla and Liu Hou DPS Matrixes (Shiro Samir)
@@RedefineGamer I've only pulled on Frost or Altered limited banners, until now. I have at least one copy of everything, that's now in the standard pool, except for Ruby (waiting for Lyra to join before a spending spree). I advanced Claudia some, for Altered team, then got cold feet but I'd assume that Zeke plus Claudia is a better team than any team I can put together for Flame... so why not gamble 1 Red Nucleus, on Liu Huo, to see if I win the 50/50? I'm not planning to get advancements for her. I want to save most of what I have for Ling Han & whatever the next Altered character's name is.
Would I be better off getting Zeke's A1 and continuing to use an Altered comp for Flame Sequential (until I pull Ruby at least) or would I be better off getting Zeke and Liu Huo both at A0?
If I lose the pity, I'm only getting an A0 Zeke, it's just a matter of wasting 1 extra nucleus or not.
If I win the pity, I'm either getting Zeke's A1 or both Zeke and Liu Huo at A0.
Or I guess I could win the pity then not spend the 20 something other pulls to get Zeke's A1 but I don't really like that plan (I'm already 50-60 pulls in).
Im screwed bought 2 piece ruby but now I see I needed to buy 2 piece cobalt. But you say it doesn’t work off hand, but why does it increase my flame attack when I switch to a other weapon?
Sorry 2 pc stay active for 25 sec so it will increase your flame atk for 25 sec. The 4 pc has the stacking mechanic
Lol, lan wil be replaced? what a joke! on CN triple flame is all the rage right now with lui/lan/feise (meta). In actual, combat Anna is even stronger than Lui, in dps, cause of flame resist ignore. In raids, in bygone, Anna just output even more dps than Lui. The down side of Anna is that her bullet might miss, but in repeatable content like bygone BR 49, BR 50, you can keep trying to get a lucky attempt where all your bullets don't miss.
PS: as a side note. All my whale friends, including me, when using flame team, we all stop using lui and switch back to Anna after her buff. Especially in high level bygone, Anna's flame resist ignore just make her do even more dps than lui. If you need just a tiny bit more dps, Anna is the way to go.
Hard to say until Fiese comes out especially with global. Also not sure how you get rid of Zeke especially if he is A6. He give Main Dps 30% Boost. 50% at A6, and Flame 26% boost from his skill. So I would think Zeke would at least replace Lan. For Anna I could see her beating Liu. Think it just come down to rotation and positioning. But when Fiese comes out I think Liu Huo will be better since she has a on field summon mechanic making her stronger. With Flame summons being Lan Parasols or Liu Huo Caligraphy Characters
@@RedefineGamer I can't predict for global who will be replaced, but... on CN the meta is Liu/lan/feise.... where feise replaced fiona on CN.... while for global zeke is around 10-15% stronger than fiona. (for flame), I can see.. feise be 20% stronger than fiona... also ..u forgot.
Double buffer: Liu/zeke/fiona is actually weaker than Liu/lan/zeke, so.. it's not that double buffer will be better for Liu (lan is deceptively strong for Liu, if not, then double buffer would have been top dps).
Also it's my understanding that they are pushing for triple same element, just look at how Mimi and Feise's awaking are all for triple same element.
That's why I feel we will have a super high chance of getting Liu/lan/feise as meta for global and actually replace zeke....(remember zeke is just a last min.. weird addition for global)
THAT's WHY... it's stupid to pull for zeke for flame team in my option, cuz it has a high chance to get replaced so soon.. (but if u are a meta slave , then.. too bad).....
What is that blue dragon I keep seeing? Sorry I'm a noob 😂
That is Fiona Discharge
Lets go Flame My fav
Yes Flame is very strong
What’s better Fiona + lan + liu or Fiona +Zeke + liu all zero stars
Fiona Zeke Liu. Lan needs at least A1 to be strong
@@RedefineGamer okay thanks.
I have a2 zero lin and fiona who should i pull next feise or zeke?
I would go with Zeke. Fiese would be a support so need a main dps
Does Liu huo also come into the choice weapon pool ? After the event atm
No she won't be added for quite sometime. Next one added should be Lan but might still be awhile since Ruby just got added.
What is the balance residence?
It is when you Equip at least 1 weapon of any type. Which Increase your final damage and damage reduction by 5%, shatter and healing effect by 20%. In team play, you gain an additional 35% final damage increase and an additional 10% damage reduction. But DPS Residence (consisting of 2 DPS weapons) has 5% more Final Damage. So if it is possible you want to always be in DPS resonance for your DPS team
Do you think Fiona is gonna be a long term good character to have?
I think when the next Altered comes out she will be replace for DPS. But for healer she will be used for a very long time there are not that many options.
I have Liu Huo in one account and on another I have zeke I only use the zeke free pulls I got and I got him from them on that account and I failed the pity for Liu Huo on the second account I want to main fire which account should I main?
I would go with the Zeke. Since he can be main DPS even for flame with his trait except for Sequential.
Awesome thanks
So you have made frost, physical,flame tier list 3.1
What wrong has volt done?
Taking longer than I thought should be out soon
Rip fiona
Yes sadly she is off the Metra team. Good for sequential
Have a team now Fiona + Lan + Liu Huo
Nice that is really strong
Feisse lesss gooo
She looks really nice
King is SSS tier for the drip alone
That is true
Wait, so Zero is actually broken? I'm actually not trolling trying to get him to 3* just because I liked him? And Zeke is S for flame too..? Wow. Hm, now I'm thinking of a final unit to complete them 🤔
Yes Zeke and Fiona is looking like to be the best combo in the game for almost any element. Believe when Mimi comes out. Zeke Fiona Mimi will be strong
huma 4pc is good on tank imo
I could see that. That would be good for tanking
So what’s the meta team for flame
Right now it is Liu Huo, Lan, Zeke
@@RedefineGamerwhat if you don't have lan. Who can I use instead of her? Don't have any other flame characters except for the free ones.
Yo can I make a new player guide that’s good all these other vid I watch are basic.
I could try to work on a new player guide
So just roll on new units is what your saying?
DPS units get out scaled pretty fast usually in the next 2-3 banners. Support units last for quite awhile hence Zero
Is Zeke lan and lin a good team ?????
Zeke and Lan not bad Lan can Shatter Zeke can Main DPS. Lin is a bit weak would be better with Fiona. But they did buff Lin so I would say it is ok
Can you put frost tier list
I did that already can check it out here: ruclips.net/video/RXi1DKuVffw/видео.html
@@RedefineGamerThanks but can you do one more tier list when sword mommy comes so it will be helpful.
@@jaivardhan7722 I can make an updated Tier list
@@RedefineGamer Thanks
I'll try to make Lan, Feise and Fiona work. How u guys think this will go?
I feel like you will need a main dps so either Anna or Liu Hou, Maybe even Zeke would be good
You hot me till me and i really powerful i have't
Chose king for free ssr... his drip is too much to refuse
That is true one of the best looking SSR's
Is liu huo still op at a0
She is still really strong but more comparable to Anna at lower stars. Get a decent power up at A1 and big boost at A6
Damn i have a6 lin a5 liu a0 fiona dont have any other flame characters so imma just wait for the new to add to my team
I would go with that or try to grab one copy of Zeke
Wouldnt Liu(maind dps), Feise and Lan work wel together?? I see a big synergy between these 3x
Tripple Flame should be really strong. But think there is still a good chance Fiona beats it. Or at least next Altered. So would not invest to much in her. But A1 is really strong
@@RedefineGamer true I kinda wished Feise would have been a flame Lin. Putting ground dots and compliment your team at maximum.
you wouldn't want to drop zeke in the team but that's originally the case in CN (LH LAN FEI). tho in global zeke is also a flame support weapon that's basically stronger than either fiona or lan.
@@winkythepooh I just dont like zeke and I love Lan, so I want to keep her in my team.
@@oktaya7717 Lan is very powerful so if you don't like Zeke she is a great choice. I still expect Triple Flame to be strong
Never got the Zero pushing people do, still don't. Shield uptime is poor, heal uptime and potency is poor, buffs require wasting discharges on Zero. If you're not healing, the slot would be better on someone who brings more offensively. If you are healing, the slot would be better spent on healing and also less conditional buffs. If you're healing then you just shouldn't be a "flame main" right now. I'm sure the next Bene weapon will be Flame or Frost... but even then, a Flame Bene would just demote Zero who already shouldn't make the cut for a healer.
The zero invincibility has been very helpful for High end raids I been in. But I do like Coco more
I wish I knew this before getting king 3 star 🥲
He is not bad there is just better