This tier list is a meme, it's just what I like to play. Every job in this game is very good. If you're new to the game play whatever job you think looks cool! While recording this, I also learned how hard it is to try to do the opener on every single job while trying to articulate your thoughts. I know I messed up pretty much all of them and forgot some stuff, but hopefully it gives you an idea of how the jobs look and work! ❤
@@Msaber2012 it’s a limited job with a lower level cap and can’t be played in current content. It’s mainly just for side content collecting all the spells and doing some old fights with other blue mages
As a Summoner / Dancer main... I do love the ease. I'm a year and a half new to MMORPG's and I definitely react a bit slower than others, and the movement flexibility is nice.
That's why I play Monk lol. 3 stacks on dash to allies or enemies so I can move around easily, and no cast time so I can move around while I do damage.
@@Schwakamonk is my love since day one of ARR, but after a good long break, the rotation is so completely confusing to me. I cannot seem to pump out the DPS like I should be able to. Lately I find myself being drawn more to tank and healers. Their rotations are more forgiving for the most part, but they're also more difficult for completely different reasons (especially healers)
Talking about the gameplay of each job and giving your personal opinions is a lot more helpful than just ranking them based on meta. I wanna just play what I like and it's good to see what I might enjoy and the pros and cons rather than just "this one does better in endgame speedruns"
PLD is my favourite tank. All the changes that it went through during EW were so good, very good improvements to damage and quality of life. Even from a healer PoV I love when the MT is a PLD because they don't need to go super low HP in order to provide value to their kit, they have superb mitigation and decent self-healing while at the same time the best invuln because Hallowed Ground doesn't have any kind of weird gimmick or anything, just a "press to stop receiving damage" button and thats it. PLD is a very solid straightforward tank.
Yeah PLD in shb always wanted to OT, But EW 6.3 PLD being a main tank I think is actually genuinely really powerful, Boss positioning aside (as that generally comes up less), It's self healing on single target is honestly on par with warrior It's absurdly strong not even "decent" imo, being able to hold two holy sheltrons for flexibility or double tank busters, It's general strong built in mitigation (even 30% chance block rate makes it take slightly less damage on average autos). DV + Bulwark changes/added back also make it so you don't lose out on tankyness other tanks had in the past. I think I still see a lot of PLD's scared to MT because of how old PLD used to avoid it, but it's actually a really good option.
Ehh, hallowed ground is the worst invuln, just because of its extremely long cooldown. All of the other tanks’ gimmicks can be forgiven because they are easy to deal with (aside from dark knight which actually is super broken, as the invuln’s timer is basically reset and it can give itself a full heal).
@@yassin9782 I disagree. The long cooldown can be forgiven because it has no gimmick, nothing can go wrong when you use Hallowed Ground, you just press button to stop receiving damage and thats it, you don't even need to pre-coordinate or expect your healer understanding how your invuln works. You have complete full control of the situation which is perfect.
@@BaghNakh1actually Hallowed Ground IS the worst invuln. Not only does it have a long cooldown meaning you o;oh get one use - you also still take damage until the animation is finished which means you also don’t get the full 10s. The best cooldown is actually drks imo because it can pop way in advance of when you need it and can heal themselves back to full provided there isn’t downtime or anything to stop them attacking which a healer can fix easily. From a paladin main
@@skilletus7334 In all current dungeons you can use Hallowed Ground twice. First use on the first pull, second use between 2nd and last boss. Never seen a situation where I only get to use it once even when going fast.
Watched to the end and you mentioned you just started making videos. I couldn’t tell. You do such a good job explaining everything in a very clear and straightforward way that i thought you’ve been making vids forever. Great job!
On PC as soon as I figured out how good controller can be set up I was converted. Took some time to get it set how I want but it's great so far and way more comfy than kb+m
PC player but started several years ago on PS4. I still think XIV is one of (if not) the best use of a controller in a video game. Make sure to continue messing around with your HUD. Above all else...enjoy the game!
@@ShrimplessScampi yup it's great to have set up the hud and figured out what all the options are, so as things pop up or I notice things being in the way I can fine tune. And I agree it's crazy how I haven't seen any other games come close to the cross hotbar versatility. It seems like it might be complicated or confusing but really in a game like dragons dogma if they just added like one extra button or double tap feature they could double the amount of abilities you can use. Everyone is used to just having one control for each button and limiting gameplay to that
He put a lot of the most hate and least played classes at the top and tbh for controllers players there are some classes I don’t recommend if you play controller like monk ninja and dragoon
Fun tidbit on Paladin Cover: it can stop stun and Down for the Count on whoever you cover. For instance, after add phase in Tsukuyomi. Your cover buddy can run around while everyone else is down. It's fun. (unless they recently patched that out, I used to do it for funsies)
What a wonderfully put together video. Thank you for your sharing your insights and opinions. I look forward to watching your past videos and future content. Easy subscribe. 👍🏼
Bard main here, and I love the approach you take to the job! Refreshing dots at the same time as you swap songs is not the most optimized way to play the job, but it's a great starting point while you're getting used to how it works and does the job in all casual content. I worry a lot of the perceived difficulty comes from guides expecting players to snapshot (applying dots when all the buffs are active) and optimize song rotation from the start, which makes the rotation far more complicated, and imo should not be required until you start getting into Extreme or Savage content.
First video if seen of you made me wanna start raids second configure my ps5 controllers settings now this keep going bro the content is quality top notch !!!🎉
I have learnt the game on summoner. Straight forward but I really like it, the fact it doesnt have a million buttonsis part of the appeal. The level 90 skills looks great
After watching some of your videos I can tell you're a great teacher and have a very sound and relatable philosophy when it comes to how you approach various aspects of the game. Keep up the great work and continue to be objective and dont get caught up with toxicity. Looking forward to more content from you!
@@bb-anon6746 What @thatoneguyffs said. Also, just keep your damage buff up. If you’re doing dungeons, all you really need is bloodwhetting to keep you alive.
My problem has always been that I LOVE FFXIV…however every single job is way too complicated with too many moves and having to remember too much. So I’ve mained warrior since day 1 and will continue to do so. Just wish there were more simple classes like that
All my jobs are lined up at the end, and are pretty close to your ranking as well. I've recently leveled RDM, and here is my list from best to worst of my 6 jobs: 1. RDM. I love the mobility and ranged/melee hybrid aspect; being able to rez/heal and have a sword is the cherry on top. 2. Sage. As you said, the only healer with a gap closer. I love Eukrasia since it adds mobility + variety + faster GCD when activated. 3. Reaper. The aesthetic is one thing, but the transformation + fast GCD is freaking awesome. Also, the teleporting is nice. My main peeve here is the 30 sec debuff...it ruins the flow for me and seems redundant. : \ 4. Scholar. This was my first job. Having a fairie help me heal seemed really nice, and it was...but once I started healing Zot and barely keeping my tanks alive, I decided to try Sage and ended up liking it waaay more. 5. Samurai. This was my main after Scholar. After they changes Samurai with the cone AoE and got rid of Kaiten...all the small problems I had came to light. Worst gap closer and no disengage. Thematically I *love* samurai, but unfortunately I'm sad that it feels like they ruined it. 6. Summoner. It's really nice at first, because it's like "oh wow it's so easy to do lots of damage," but then...yeah it gets boring. That said, if I didn't try summoner I'd have never leveled a Red Mage. I was looking for a new job, since none of my current ones really gripped me anymore. I thought "I wish summoner and samurai could be combined and given some mobility..." yeah, literally exactly what RDM is. :D Anyways, that's my wall of text. Good vid (although I admit to skipping ones I don't play or am not too interested in.)
As a tank player it feels like: - Warrior: You just want a tank class. Necessary minimum of mechanics, pure fun of having Fell CLEAVE! Can't ever go wrong with this class. Best MT out there. - Paladin: Swiss knife of a tanks. (somewhat) flexible rotation, good package of party utility. Needs some time to get used to. Solid MT and OT. 2nd best tank glamour class. - Gunbreaker: You are a DPS player, but your party need that last slot as a tank. Flashy skills (Gnashing fang and Double down have my respect). But, because of cartriges suffers when there is downtime or he needs to move boss somewhere. Great OT, terrible MT. - Dark Knight: Every game's edge boys. Kind of mix of PLD and WAR. Skills look good, sword swings actually FEEL like you carry two-handed monster in your arms (unlike a lot of games). In right hands can do burst on par with equally geared DPS. Has the best small mitigation in the game, it's so good that my co-tank when geared in BiS don't even use it on 1st/2nd encounter reclear because boss' damage isn't enough to break it which leads to dps loss. Good at both MT and OT.
Great video! I appreciate how you changed locations for every job! Regarding bard DoTs,they cant really be refreshed with every new song cause you dont keep the songs equally up. Also you want to refresh them by the end of your buff every 1min
As a Bard main, I jumped with joy seeing you put my favorite job in S. I totally agree with you, there's a simple yet satisfying joy keeping up the dots and songs, plus, the party util is always welcome.
Nice to see Bard getting S tier. Considering how many people seem to dislike the job, I was afraid you'd be one of them. I am also a musician in real life so I gravitated toward Bard. I actually started as White Mage and mained that until the end of Endwalker. Then once the main story was done, I switched to Bard as a new main (primarily because I just didn't enjoy how healers work in this game, which is basically just DPS with extra responsibilities). And I have a lot of fun with Bard. Also, I can't stand all the Bard bands you occasionally see. When you play in a real band, the musicians need to be tight and play in sync. The bands you see throughout FFXIV are never in sync because of the delay with the game and it makes their music just sound bad. I do wish Bard would lean into the music aspect a bit more than it does, though.
Seeing you play on a controller really makes me think if I should go back to playing on PS5. The only thing I hate about controller is playing as support when you need to juggle between enemy and party targets. Targeting with controller in general feels clunky. Great video!
1. DRK main here , kind of a newb tho lol, but I 100% agree that the rotation is somehow both really busy, but simple at the same time. The whole playstyle is basically just you accumulating resources so you can go ham during your damage windows ( Which is what ultimately makes the class such a popular off-tank option , since during those short damage windows your output is comparable to some DPS classes. Hence the nickname "Blue DPS" XD ) 2. I also really like *Samurai's* gameplay. Its suprisingly easy to learn once you put in a bit of time into it and learn all the variations you have access to. The timing on the casts is also the most fun part personally, as you really need to have the timing of your actions down pat to keep up your flow. The class is definetly a glass cannon tho.
I've been playing Samurai as my main since late SB/early Shb so it's always interesting to hear an outsider's perspective on the job I've spent thousands of hours on, lol. I wish there was slightly more class variation in this game, but as it stands, I like that we can still have our personal tastes and disagreements over core job mechanics and identity, because casting is what *makes* Samurai for me. I think it feels incredible to get a perfect burst window with Sam because it just feels so chunky and good. But of course, it's not for everyone!
I'm a mythic raider wow refugee and i've been eating up all sorts of these videos. I am glad I found yours because I think my tastes align a lot with you. I think Reaper is cool but it's just soooo simple, and the character I am currently working on is Ninja (lvl 89, so close to Raijin Ready!..) and it's a blast. Daunting at first, but after successfully setting up an opener it just sinks its hooks in and it has that level of depth that I was originally worried about FFXIV lacking. Red Mage and Monk were the other DPS I was interested in and you have them high on your preferences as well. Can't wait to explore them at some point. Cheers for the vid
I just started the game a month ago and really enjoy AST. With my DRK being at level 50 the job doesn’t feel too great at the moment, using more magic instead of big sword, hope this will change later ❤
Stupid side note, ninja isn't fastest out of combat because peleton exists at 100% uptime. Always great to see another controller player who does highest level content. Always fun to compare button placement between controller players. For dancer, I like it over bard because of the resource pooling you can do. There is plenty of skill expression in it's utility and dance partner swapping and as long as the higher Parse number isn't your main goal, I think it can be very rewarding. For summoner I think they are very close with the Ifrit dash to getting the right utility. I would assume their lvl 100 would be a 4th minor summon that does the exact same dps as the others but gives another interesting utility option.
As a bard main, my complaint about dot upkeep and job difficulty is the fact that the dots have to take up two GCDs to be initially applied, or reapplied if the boss has an intangible period, and the fact that I have a harder time paying attention to the fight since I have to play with my eyes on my hot bars for most everything I still love it nonetheless though
Never saw ninja using so many ninjutsu so fast. But, you had go more into the con-side of the ninja. The mudra are a nice idea. At the samer time are they the biggest weakness of the ninja. It can happen very easily, that the system didnt recogniced a button corectly, and create a error, because of that (the bunny hat). That mean, that you can not use the mudra for 30 sec, and you losed some dmg, because of that. Or are going out of your flow.
Ninja has just one complaint from me. The 1, 2, 3 animations are all spins. Same thing with dark knights first hit. I want new animations cause they look annoying. To see nearly the same thing for 3 hits in a row. Oh wow, he spins AND jumps. So creative. If anybody just absolutely loves that, we could compromise and have glamor visuals or something.
I will say also, for those who ARE interested in dancer - you are a very good support DPS, for what it's worth. Dancer is my main phys ranged dps (melee is ninja, caster blackmage), and if you know how to make use of your and your dance partners/parties positioning, your curing waltz and improvization is actually quite good. Your shield samba is good as well - while you're not going to do the job of a true healer, tight healing checks are much nicer to healers because you have a pretty okay heal when grouped together, and can offer some nice regen. If there's downtime, you have an alright shield too. While your damage rotation isn't the most complicated, everybody loves a good dancer in the party!
I've only been playing for a couple months and my main class is a Black Mage which I love allot, but here recently I started leveling Dragoon and I absolutely love it.
So, I started out Dragoon, then picked up Dark Knight, because those are my two favourite FF Job-classes. Then in Shadowbringers I found the Role Quests and decided I wanted to do them all. So now I've gotten Red Mage up to the high 70s and my next goal is to level up Sage. I hear that Endwalker splits the Phys. Dps into Melee and Ranged, so I'll probably grind up Bard for that one.
Don't forget that WM Holy stuns whole groups of enemies which is incredible indirect dr. Wall to wall pulls become super easy for tanks when you use it between heals.
thanks a lot for your insights on each job, I like how you think the tier-list too It seems we've got the same way of thinking, the themes you approach are exactly what I was looking for (playstyle of each job, their versatility, but also how it feels when you play and the aesthetic). And so it happens we've got the same tastes : RDM, NIN, BARD, DRG are my favorites too :D Now I need to decide on which tank and healer to chose :3 I'm guessing the DRK for all the reasons you mentionned but leveling it from 30 is gonna be a pain and I already got a 65 War and GNB
Every job in your S Tier are what I play. We seem to have SIMILAR taste in job choices. I am more of a healer though. Paladin and the healers rank a bit higher for me just because of the healing. Thank you. Fun to hear someone so articulately explore the nuances of each job. Ninja is my fave melee and MAY become actual main. DRG is PHENOMENAL. Actually playing BRD as I listen to you, right now. RDM is 'officially' my main atm. BLM COULD be my number 1 favourite because of the complexity. DRK has that sword and Blackest Night. AST and its complexity attract me significantly. Thx if you read all that.
Typically enjoy casters or ranged so my go-to jobs were BLM, DNC, RDM. But for some reason, healing in this game is super fun, but especially as a barrier healer. Scholar was an absolute blast to play up to 90. Learning fights and putting up shields at the right time felt super satisfying. The whole SCH kit just felt like you had something for every situation and getting it right was dope.
Great video with really solid explanations of each job. It's very funny to me that if you invert your tier list, it's basically perfectly mine. I like head empty.
I absolutely LOVED Summoner in Shadowbringers, which is when I started playing. It felt a lot like Bard (my favorite DPS by far) and was overall just very unique with how the DoTs played into the kit... I don't really enjoy it the same way that I did since it got reworked in Endwalker. Maybe there's a middle ground between the DoT mage that it used to be and the "mage" that it currently is? I think that would restore some of the identity back into the class
100% agree. I picked it for the uniqueness. Pet class, DoT class, levelling scholar at the same time. I enjoyed how outrageous the rotation was too. The reworks was such a massive change it hurt.
BLM here, spot on with the description lol its true every 10 levels you have to change your rotation and strategy, constantly having to learn. when you get it right though, man does it feel good to just absolutely melt enemies HP.
How is sage for those that have played it? It interests me more than the others and I like a class that can do a bit of all. Don’t wanna be pure healer like white mage with so much focus on me to heal.
Summoner at D hurts man. I am more or a theme and ease of use guy when it comes to job. Both summoners ease and theming carry it for me. I love their weird geometic spells, the thematics of summoning iconic FF monsters and channeling their power.
19:54 Min.: Just write a marco with iron Jawr after the Songs for every Song and replace it with your normal Song Icon. With this you dont have to think at the extra Button and only about the Songs.
1:06:48 Min.: "Legends never die When the world is calling you (when the world is calling you) Can you hear them screaming out your name? Legends never die They become a part of you (they become a part of you) Every time you bleed for reaching greatness Legends never die" And you wellcome btw :)
How shell i judge your opinion if i not hear you out to the end? Makes no sense to me tbh. Plus you seams to be a chill dude that is easy to hear to. you tolerate that outher point of views exists and thats make it me easy to hear your hole video tbh.
I'm currently progging the Eden savage raid after finishing all of Pandemonium, and the amount of times i jumped off the arena playing DRG on E8S can't be counted.
Love that you put Bard in S tier. It's my one and only Lv90 job, and as a support main that likes clicking furiously, it can't be beaten in my opinion.
Good vid but as a tank main (I play all jobs) I do think War is too low. It is super fun and impactful and while not as busy as gun breaker I find it flows a lot better where with gunbreaker it has very awkward burst window. My tank ranking would be Drk, War, Gnb, Pld personally. I do enjoy slightly busier jobs as far as hitting buttons too but I personally think there is a lot of value especially as a prog raider in jobs that have flexibility and consistency. Focusing on rotation too much will increase prog time and lead to a lot of mistakes. Obviously if you aren't in prog this matters less but its definitely worth considering. Great video though I enjoyed the full hour.
I like your chill, conversational style. Glad I found your channel. As a ninja main, I'm biased playstyle wise and agree with most of the list. The only difference is I enjoy dancer as my "head empty, no thoughts" mode. The play rhythm feels like ninja with slow filler, fast burst, but just overall simpler/easier. I also like rng to a degree. Which is why AST is the only healer I play at this point--fast, more thinking, and rng. I just hope the DT rework doesn't go the way of SMN.
I love WAR, personally. It's just so comfy to play! In dungeons the mitigation makes wall to wall pulls a breeze while against bosses the rotation is simple and flexible so I can just chill or focus on the actualy spectacle and mechanics.
I started with DRG all the way to EW then switched to RPR. Still go back to it for roull and Eureka since I don't raid. Elusive jump has killed me sooo many times, I'm looking at you Titan
I loved the + and - on all classes, so that its easier for me to search the classes i want to play based on for example flashy spells or good movment etc, good overlook and really helpful for all who didnt played all classes so that they can a favor of the differences between them :) thanks for your work! Ps: love sage the most ;)
Great video m8. I think it would also have been cool, just as an extra, to add the names/location of each zone you were in while demonstrating each job. 💪🏼 Kudos, overall
wow can't believe you slapped me in the face when Ninja was put at S tier. Just kidding, but honestly it felt actively bad to play for me until like 70, and after that it had already left a bad taste in my mouth, im hoping that Viper feels less like ninja tbh
This list seems more personal than fact and I respect your opinion. New players should not use this as a way to decide their jobs, since RPR is a top tier dps and WAR is in almost every endgame content with DRK. But again, I did enjoy your choices of opinions and it was very well put information.
@@GoatOfWar You would be correct in your statement, but DRK does get a lot of playtime for the hard core players when doing the more difficult endgame content. The initial damage burst DRK brings when opening can't be done by any other tank
Your way of thinking about the job gameplay and their ranking, totally aligns with mine, and I believe, with lots of people. Thanks for the time you took.
Hey man when DT drops will you do controller guides for a lot of jobs? I can never figure out where I should set certain abilities and using yours would be super useful, I think a ton of new controller players would appreciate it too.
We appear to have very opposite opinions for most of the jobs 😂 but I watched all the way through anyway and will be sending this to my buddy looking to get into FFXIV 😁 great video!
THANK YOU for making Bard S-Rank! I love the party support aspect, and mob crowd control is so easy compared to other jobs. It just doesn’t have the rizz other jobs have at the moment. 🤷♂️
Hey an, that is an awesome video! Enjoyed every second :D Really helpful overview and of course cosidering some biased moments :) But who is not biased in the life :D
If I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind seeing another class pairing like Smn/Sch in a future release. Imagine if we had a Tank/DPS combo, or a Tank/Healer combo. It's a bit of a shame there aren't more classes like Smn/Sch that give you that "two for the price of one" combo. It would facilitate players who might not have a lot of time to level a bunch of classes, but want to dabble in all roles.
This tier list is a meme, it's just what I like to play. Every job in this game is very good. If you're new to the game play whatever job you think looks cool!
While recording this, I also learned how hard it is to try to do the opener on every single job while trying to articulate your thoughts. I know I messed up pretty much all of them and forgot some stuff, but hopefully it gives you an idea of how the jobs look and work! ❤
isn't there a blue mage? i just started playing so I'm not sure why it was skipped
@@Msaber2012 it’s a limited job with a lower level cap and can’t be played in current content. It’s mainly just for side content collecting all the spells and doing some old fights with other blue mages
summoner at 100 should allow you to summon Yoshi P. So he'd be the third thing to summon trading off with phoenix and bahamut
While as funny as this sounds. My cent is on Zodiark and Hydaleyn, especially knowing what we know now.
@@klabenceThat'd be sick
Pls if we can bring her back yes please
@@klabence Yes Zodiark and Hydaelyn or riot.
ROFLMFAO
Mannn I'm so impressed by how clear and concise you are with your points and commentary. Really good work!
We’ll ignore the fact that I had to reshoot this entire video after the first take ended up over 2 hours long. But I appreciate the kind words!
As a Summoner / Dancer main... I do love the ease. I'm a year and a half new to MMORPG's and I definitely react a bit slower than others, and the movement flexibility is nice.
Found the person born in 2005.
@@christopherg.9954 Oof! I wouldn't sound like Rice Krispies when I stand up if that were the case.
I am in love with summoner as my first job ever so far :D!!!! Definitely maxing it out before I choose anything else =]
That's why I play Monk lol. 3 stacks on dash to allies or enemies so I can move around easily, and no cast time so I can move around while I do damage.
@@Schwakamonk is my love since day one of ARR, but after a good long break, the rotation is so completely confusing to me. I cannot seem to pump out the DPS like I should be able to. Lately I find myself being drawn more to tank and healers. Their rotations are more forgiving for the most part, but they're also more difficult for completely different reasons (especially healers)
Talking about the gameplay of each job and giving your personal opinions is a lot more helpful than just ranking them based on meta. I wanna just play what I like and it's good to see what I might enjoy and the pros and cons rather than just "this one does better in endgame speedruns"
I didn't mean to watch the whole video but dang listening to you talk about ffxiv for an hour is very enjoyable!
He seems very articulate, insightful and has been blessed with a voice made for this kind of thing, imo.
PLD is my favourite tank. All the changes that it went through during EW were so good, very good improvements to damage and quality of life. Even from a healer PoV I love when the MT is a PLD because they don't need to go super low HP in order to provide value to their kit, they have superb mitigation and decent self-healing while at the same time the best invuln because Hallowed Ground doesn't have any kind of weird gimmick or anything, just a "press to stop receiving damage" button and thats it. PLD is a very solid straightforward tank.
Yeah PLD in shb always wanted to OT, But EW 6.3 PLD being a main tank I think is actually genuinely really powerful, Boss positioning aside (as that generally comes up less), It's self healing on single target is honestly on par with warrior It's absurdly strong not even "decent" imo, being able to hold two holy sheltrons for flexibility or double tank busters, It's general strong built in mitigation (even 30% chance block rate makes it take slightly less damage on average autos). DV + Bulwark changes/added back also make it so you don't lose out on tankyness other tanks had in the past.
I think I still see a lot of PLD's scared to MT because of how old PLD used to avoid it, but it's actually a really good option.
Ehh, hallowed ground is the worst invuln, just because of its extremely long cooldown. All of the other tanks’ gimmicks can be forgiven because they are easy to deal with (aside from dark knight which actually is super broken, as the invuln’s timer is basically reset and it can give itself a full heal).
@@yassin9782 I disagree. The long cooldown can be forgiven because it has no gimmick, nothing can go wrong when you use Hallowed Ground, you just press button to stop receiving damage and thats it, you don't even need to pre-coordinate or expect your healer understanding how your invuln works. You have complete full control of the situation which is perfect.
@@BaghNakh1actually Hallowed Ground IS the worst invuln. Not only does it have a long cooldown meaning you o;oh get one use - you also still take damage until the animation is finished which means you also don’t get the full 10s. The best cooldown is actually drks imo because it can pop way in advance of when you need it and can heal themselves back to full provided there isn’t downtime or anything to stop them attacking which a healer can fix easily. From a paladin main
@@skilletus7334 In all current dungeons you can use Hallowed Ground twice. First use on the first pull, second use between 2nd and last boss. Never seen a situation where I only get to use it once even when going fast.
Watched to the end and you mentioned you just started making videos. I couldn’t tell. You do such a good job explaining everything in a very clear and straightforward way that i thought you’ve been making vids forever. Great job!
As a new player as of the Xbox beta its nice to see someone who has alot of knowledge who also uses controller 😊😊
On PC as soon as I figured out how good controller can be set up I was converted. Took some time to get it set how I want but it's great so far and way more comfy than kb+m
PC player but started several years ago on PS4. I still think XIV is one of (if not) the best use of a controller in a video game. Make sure to continue messing around with your HUD. Above all else...enjoy the game!
@@ShrimplessScampi yup it's great to have set up the hud and figured out what all the options are, so as things pop up or I notice things being in the way I can fine tune. And I agree it's crazy how I haven't seen any other games come close to the cross hotbar versatility. It seems like it might be complicated or confusing but really in a game like dragons dogma if they just added like one extra button or double tap feature they could double the amount of abilities you can use. Everyone is used to just having one control for each button and limiting gameplay to that
He put a lot of the most hate and least played classes at the top and tbh for controllers players there are some classes I don’t recommend if you play controller like monk ninja and dragoon
Make sure you set up your crossbar to be able to access it fast
nice video, rlly like the chill in your voice. keep it up :)
Really great video! Love your natural delivery and explanation. Keep up the great content!
Awesome video man! Definitely motivating me to try out different jobs that I previously have been leaving out!
Fun tidbit on Paladin Cover: it can stop stun and Down for the Count on whoever you cover. For instance, after add phase in Tsukuyomi. Your cover buddy can run around while everyone else is down. It's fun. (unless they recently patched that out, I used to do it for funsies)
What a wonderfully put together video. Thank you for your sharing your insights and opinions. I look forward to watching your past videos and future content. Easy subscribe. 👍🏼
Bard main here, and I love the approach you take to the job!
Refreshing dots at the same time as you swap songs is not the most optimized way to play the job, but it's a great starting point while you're getting used to how it works and does the job in all casual content. I worry a lot of the perceived difficulty comes from guides expecting players to snapshot (applying dots when all the buffs are active) and optimize song rotation from the start, which makes the rotation far more complicated, and imo should not be required until you start getting into Extreme or Savage content.
For someone who only has six videos on their channel, your content is great, Keep it up!
Great vibe to this video - thanks Vit :)
Loved the video and the casual delivery. I am kinda new so your suggestion of turning the tierlist upside down works for me 😂.
I'm so in edge about DRG changes. Love it's current iteration. Great vid!
First video if seen of you made me wanna start raids second configure my ps5 controllers settings now this keep going bro the content is quality top notch !!!🎉
I have learnt the game on summoner. Straight forward but I really like it, the fact it doesnt have a million buttonsis part of the appeal.
The level 90 skills looks great
After watching some of your videos I can tell you're a great teacher and have a very sound and relatable philosophy when it comes to how you approach various aspects of the game. Keep up the great work and continue to be objective and dont get caught up with toxicity. Looking forward to more content from you!
Really enjoyed this vid, like the chill vibe
Warrior has no cons. Tanking ✅️, Healing ✅️, Dps ✅️.
My man knows it’s all about the unga bunga.
Most of the time I play with tank stance off because I'll rip threat from other tanks. Even if they taunt.
Any advice for someone wanting to learn how to tank with Warrior? I'm coming back from a long break and want to try new things in game.
@@bb-anon6746 keep blood wedding on CD and space out your mitigations.
@@bb-anon6746 What @thatoneguyffs said. Also, just keep your damage buff up. If you’re doing dungeons, all you really need is bloodwhetting to keep you alive.
My problem has always been that I LOVE FFXIV…however every single job is way too complicated with too many moves and having to remember too much. So I’ve mained warrior since day 1 and will continue to do so. Just wish there were more simple classes like that
All my jobs are lined up at the end, and are pretty close to your ranking as well. I've recently leveled RDM, and here is my list from best to worst of my 6 jobs:
1. RDM. I love the mobility and ranged/melee hybrid aspect; being able to rez/heal and have a sword is the cherry on top.
2. Sage. As you said, the only healer with a gap closer. I love Eukrasia since it adds mobility + variety + faster GCD when activated.
3. Reaper. The aesthetic is one thing, but the transformation + fast GCD is freaking awesome. Also, the teleporting is nice. My main peeve here is the 30 sec debuff...it ruins the flow for me and seems redundant. : \
4. Scholar. This was my first job. Having a fairie help me heal seemed really nice, and it was...but once I started healing Zot and barely keeping my tanks alive, I decided to try Sage and ended up liking it waaay more.
5. Samurai. This was my main after Scholar. After they changes Samurai with the cone AoE and got rid of Kaiten...all the small problems I had came to light. Worst gap closer and no disengage. Thematically I *love* samurai, but unfortunately I'm sad that it feels like they ruined it.
6. Summoner. It's really nice at first, because it's like "oh wow it's so easy to do lots of damage," but then...yeah it gets boring. That said, if I didn't try summoner I'd have never leveled a Red Mage. I was looking for a new job, since none of my current ones really gripped me anymore. I thought "I wish summoner and samurai could be combined and given some mobility..." yeah, literally exactly what RDM is. :D
Anyways, that's my wall of text. Good vid (although I admit to skipping ones I don't play or am not too interested in.)
I could listen to you talk about this all day tbh. Thanks for the info!
As a tank player it feels like:
- Warrior: You just want a tank class. Necessary minimum of mechanics, pure fun of having Fell CLEAVE! Can't ever go wrong with this class. Best MT out there.
- Paladin: Swiss knife of a tanks. (somewhat) flexible rotation, good package of party utility. Needs some time to get used to. Solid MT and OT. 2nd best tank glamour class.
- Gunbreaker: You are a DPS player, but your party need that last slot as a tank. Flashy skills (Gnashing fang and Double down have my respect). But, because of cartriges suffers when there is downtime or he needs to move boss somewhere. Great OT, terrible MT.
- Dark Knight: Every game's edge boys. Kind of mix of PLD and WAR. Skills look good, sword swings actually FEEL like you carry two-handed monster in your arms (unlike a lot of games). In right hands can do burst on par with equally geared DPS. Has the best small mitigation in the game, it's so good that my co-tank when geared in BiS don't even use it on 1st/2nd encounter reclear because boss' damage isn't enough to break it which leads to dps loss. Good at both MT and OT.
I remember when I played Dark in Savage for reclears I'd sometimes just lower my gear when I popped Blackest Knight then swap to a stronger gear
Great video! I appreciate how you changed locations for every job!
Regarding bard DoTs,they cant really be refreshed with every new song cause you dont keep the songs equally up. Also you want to refresh them by the end of your buff every 1min
You're really not worried about DRG rework? I for one am SCARED lmao
LET ME COPE
I just want some of the jumps on gcd
@@99_Vit lmaoo
@@99_Vit My cope is that the latest melee dps rework was monk and that turned out okay at least!
I quit dragoon feels so weak
As a Bard main, I jumped with joy seeing you put my favorite job in S. I totally agree with you, there's a simple yet satisfying joy keeping up the dots and songs, plus, the party util is always welcome.
As someone who started playing the game yesterday this video was extremly informative and helpfull, you explained each job very well !
Pretty good video, you present your view for each job in a concise manner and pretty direct.
Nice to see Bard getting S tier. Considering how many people seem to dislike the job, I was afraid you'd be one of them. I am also a musician in real life so I gravitated toward Bard. I actually started as White Mage and mained that until the end of Endwalker. Then once the main story was done, I switched to Bard as a new main (primarily because I just didn't enjoy how healers work in this game, which is basically just DPS with extra responsibilities). And I have a lot of fun with Bard. Also, I can't stand all the Bard bands you occasionally see. When you play in a real band, the musicians need to be tight and play in sync. The bands you see throughout FFXIV are never in sync because of the delay with the game and it makes their music just sound bad. I do wish Bard would lean into the music aspect a bit more than it does, though.
Seeing you play on a controller really makes me think if I should go back to playing on PS5. The only thing I hate about controller is playing as support when you need to juggle between enemy and party targets. Targeting with controller in general feels clunky. Great video!
1. DRK main here , kind of a newb tho lol, but I 100% agree that the rotation is somehow both really busy, but simple at the same time. The whole playstyle is basically just you accumulating resources so you can go ham during your damage windows ( Which is what ultimately makes the class such a popular off-tank option , since during those short damage windows your output is comparable to some DPS classes. Hence the nickname "Blue DPS" XD )
2. I also really like *Samurai's* gameplay. Its suprisingly easy to learn once you put in a bit of time into it and learn all the variations you have access to. The timing on the casts is also the most fun part personally, as you really need to have the timing of your actions down pat to keep up your flow.
The class is definetly a glass cannon tho.
keep doing you brosky!!!! this video was fun to watch!
I've been playing Samurai as my main since late SB/early Shb so it's always interesting to hear an outsider's perspective on the job I've spent thousands of hours on, lol. I wish there was slightly more class variation in this game, but as it stands, I like that we can still have our personal tastes and disagreements over core job mechanics and identity, because casting is what *makes* Samurai for me. I think it feels incredible to get a perfect burst window with Sam because it just feels so chunky and good. But of course, it's not for everyone!
I love my red mage, may not be the highest DPS, but it has so much versatility
This was a very detailed and solid video. I havent played this game in awhile and as a returning player this helped to relearn the classes quick
This was a great watch, thank you for your input. As a new ff14 player, you showcased and summarized the jobs nicely.
I'm a mythic raider wow refugee and i've been eating up all sorts of these videos. I am glad I found yours because I think my tastes align a lot with you. I think Reaper is cool but it's just soooo simple, and the character I am currently working on is Ninja (lvl 89, so close to Raijin Ready!..) and it's a blast. Daunting at first, but after successfully setting up an opener it just sinks its hooks in and it has that level of depth that I was originally worried about FFXIV lacking.
Red Mage and Monk were the other DPS I was interested in and you have them high on your preferences as well. Can't wait to explore them at some point. Cheers for the vid
I just started the game a month ago and really enjoy AST. With my DRK being at level 50 the job doesn’t feel too great at the moment, using more magic instead of big sword, hope this will change later ❤
Stupid side note, ninja isn't fastest out of combat because peleton exists at 100% uptime.
Always great to see another controller player who does highest level content. Always fun to compare button placement between controller players.
For dancer, I like it over bard because of the resource pooling you can do. There is plenty of skill expression in it's utility and dance partner swapping and as long as the higher Parse number isn't your main goal, I think it can be very rewarding.
For summoner I think they are very close with the Ifrit dash to getting the right utility. I would assume their lvl 100 would be a 4th minor summon that does the exact same dps as the others but gives another interesting utility option.
True, peloton is OP
As a bard main, my complaint about dot upkeep and job difficulty is the fact that the dots have to take up two GCDs to be initially applied, or reapplied if the boss has an intangible period, and the fact that I have a harder time paying attention to the fight since I have to play with my eyes on my hot bars for most everything
I still love it nonetheless though
Ur explaination for the jobs are very good but the tier list is clearly what u prefer
Thanks and good info in this vid to see what I'll play next. 👍 Nevermind, found your controller video :D
Never saw ninja using so many ninjutsu so fast.
But, you had go more into the con-side of the ninja.
The mudra are a nice idea. At the samer time are they the biggest weakness of the ninja.
It can happen very easily, that the system didnt recogniced a button corectly, and create a error, because of that (the bunny hat). That mean, that you can not use the mudra for 30 sec, and you losed some dmg, because of that. Or are going out of your flow.
Ninja has just one complaint from me. The 1, 2, 3 animations are all spins. Same thing with dark knights first hit. I want new animations cause they look annoying. To see nearly the same thing for 3 hits in a row. Oh wow, he spins AND jumps. So creative. If anybody just absolutely loves that, we could compromise and have glamor visuals or something.
Thankyou for the zero warning on zone spoilers but otherwise a very interesting video cheers
I will say also, for those who ARE interested in dancer - you are a very good support DPS, for what it's worth. Dancer is my main phys ranged dps (melee is ninja, caster blackmage), and if you know how to make use of your and your dance partners/parties positioning, your curing waltz and improvization is actually quite good. Your shield samba is good as well - while you're not going to do the job of a true healer, tight healing checks are much nicer to healers because you have a pretty okay heal when grouped together, and can offer some nice regen. If there's downtime, you have an alright shield too. While your damage rotation isn't the most complicated, everybody loves a good dancer in the party!
Awesome video and channel!
Great video man. Learned some things. Nin and Bard are my favorite. I think my next class to try out will be Astro after watching this.
Took me a while to get used to it but monk was the most rewarding job I've played with black mage
I've only been playing for a couple months and my main class is a Black Mage which I love allot, but here recently I started leveling Dragoon and I absolutely love it.
So, I started out Dragoon, then picked up Dark Knight, because those are my two favourite FF Job-classes.
Then in Shadowbringers I found the Role Quests and decided I wanted to do them all. So now I've gotten Red Mage up to the high 70s and my next goal is to level up Sage. I hear that Endwalker splits the Phys. Dps into Melee and Ranged, so I'll probably grind up Bard for that one.
Don't forget that WM Holy stuns whole groups of enemies which is incredible indirect dr. Wall to wall pulls become super easy for tanks when you use it between heals.
thanks a lot for your insights on each job, I like how you think the tier-list too
It seems we've got the same way of thinking, the themes you approach are exactly what I was looking for (playstyle of each job, their versatility, but also how it feels when you play and the aesthetic). And so it happens we've got the same tastes : RDM, NIN, BARD, DRG are my favorites too :D
Now I need to decide on which tank and healer to chose :3
I'm guessing the DRK for all the reasons you mentionned but leveling it from 30 is gonna be a pain and I already got a 65 War and GNB
Thanks for the video.
Your voice is so soothing! good work!
Every job in your S Tier are what I play. We seem to have SIMILAR taste in job choices. I am more of a healer though. Paladin and the healers rank a bit higher for me just because of the healing. Thank you. Fun to hear someone so articulately explore the nuances of each job. Ninja is my fave melee and MAY become actual main. DRG is PHENOMENAL. Actually playing BRD as I listen to you, right now. RDM is 'officially' my main atm. BLM COULD be my number 1 favourite because of the complexity. DRK has that sword and Blackest Night. AST and its complexity attract me significantly. Thx if you read all that.
Typically enjoy casters or ranged so my go-to jobs were BLM, DNC, RDM. But for some reason, healing in this game is super fun, but especially as a barrier healer. Scholar was an absolute blast to play up to 90. Learning fights and putting up shields at the right time felt super satisfying. The whole SCH kit just felt like you had something for every situation and getting it right was dope.
Great video with really solid explanations of each job. It's very funny to me that if you invert your tier list, it's basically perfectly mine. I like head empty.
One of the better tier list videos I've seen
I absolutely LOVED Summoner in Shadowbringers, which is when I started playing. It felt a lot like Bard (my favorite DPS by far) and was overall just very unique with how the DoTs played into the kit... I don't really enjoy it the same way that I did since it got reworked in Endwalker. Maybe there's a middle ground between the DoT mage that it used to be and the "mage" that it currently is? I think that would restore some of the identity back into the class
100% agree. I picked it for the uniqueness. Pet class, DoT class, levelling scholar at the same time. I enjoyed how outrageous the rotation was too. The reworks was such a massive change it hurt.
BLM here, spot on with the description lol its true every 10 levels you have to change your rotation and strategy, constantly having to learn. when you get it right though, man does it feel good to just absolutely melt enemies HP.
How is sage for those that have played it? It interests me more than the others and I like a class that can do a bit of all. Don’t wanna be pure healer like white mage with so much focus on me to heal.
Wonderful video but I just want to say the effort you put into going into explorer mode and finding pretty spots was very beautifully done!
Summoner at D hurts man. I am more or a theme and ease of use guy when it comes to job. Both summoners ease and theming carry it for me. I love their weird geometic spells, the thematics of summoning iconic FF monsters and channeling their power.
19:54 Min.: Just write a marco with iron Jawr after the Songs for every Song and replace it with your normal Song Icon. With this you dont have to think at the extra Button and only about the Songs.
1:06:48 Min.: "Legends never die
When the world is calling you (when the world is calling you)
Can you hear them screaming out your name?
Legends never die
They become a part of you (they become a part of you)
Every time you bleed for reaching greatness
Legends never die"
And you wellcome btw :)
How shell i judge your opinion if i not hear you out to the end? Makes no sense to me tbh.
Plus you seams to be a chill dude that is easy to hear to. you tolerate that outher point of views exists and thats make it me easy to hear your hole video tbh.
I'm currently progging the Eden savage raid after finishing all of Pandemonium, and the amount of times i jumped off the arena playing DRG on E8S can't be counted.
Love that you put Bard in S tier. It's my one and only Lv90 job, and as a support main that likes clicking furiously, it can't be beaten in my opinion.
Good vid but as a tank main (I play all jobs) I do think War is too low. It is super fun and impactful and while not as busy as gun breaker I find it flows a lot better where with gunbreaker it has very awkward burst window. My tank ranking would be Drk, War, Gnb, Pld personally. I do enjoy slightly busier jobs as far as hitting buttons too but I personally think there is a lot of value especially as a prog raider in jobs that have flexibility and consistency. Focusing on rotation too much will increase prog time and lead to a lot of mistakes. Obviously if you aren't in prog this matters less but its definitely worth considering. Great video though I enjoyed the full hour.
Monk is everything you want out of a "create your own adventure" Final Fantasy character. Yang, Sabin, Tifa etc. Great Job!
"Dragoon is my favorite" Dragoon mains rise up
thank you very nice vod, was searching for a good ff14 ytber! Got my sub with this
15:50 No you were on the right track to begin with:
It's not a matter of when you will backflip off the arena, it's a matter of how often.
I like your chill, conversational style. Glad I found your channel. As a ninja main, I'm biased playstyle wise and agree with most of the list. The only difference is I enjoy dancer as my "head empty, no thoughts" mode. The play rhythm feels like ninja with slow filler, fast burst, but just overall simpler/easier. I also like rng to a degree. Which is why AST is the only healer I play at this point--fast, more thinking, and rng. I just hope the DT rework doesn't go the way of SMN.
I main bard it’s so good nice critique on the class ty ❤
I love WAR, personally. It's just so comfy to play! In dungeons the mitigation makes wall to wall pulls a breeze while against bosses the rotation is simple and flexible so I can just chill or focus on the actualy spectacle and mechanics.
A summoning circle where you control your most powerful summons would be interesting. Hard like black mage, but in a different way.
You forgot about your most op dragoon spell the javelin throw definitely dont need a rework XD
I started with DRG all the way to EW then switched to RPR. Still go back to it for roull and Eureka since I don't raid. Elusive jump has killed me sooo many times, I'm looking at you Titan
As a Dark Knight main who plays the class for the greatsword i approve.
I still don't get why they didn't give Bard a area AoE poison atk?
Great video, very helpful for a sprout like me.
Monk for life. Probably one of the few who started as monk and have kept it as their main the entire time (and I started in ARR)
I loved the + and - on all classes, so that its easier for me to search the classes i want to play based on for example flashy spells or good movment etc, good overlook and really helpful for all who didnt played all classes so that they can a favor of the differences between them :) thanks for your work! Ps: love sage the most ;)
Great video m8.
I think it would also have been cool, just as an extra, to add the names/location of each zone you were in while demonstrating each job. 💪🏼
Kudos, overall
wow can't believe you slapped me in the face when Ninja was put at S tier. Just kidding, but honestly it felt actively bad to play for me until like 70, and after that it had already left a bad taste in my mouth, im hoping that Viper feels less like ninja tbh
It’s fine at 60 but just a bit underwhelming
Thanks for the video, I created a BLM for my first job and been thinking about switching I found your video very useful.
This list seems more personal than fact and I respect your opinion. New players should not use this as a way to decide their jobs, since RPR is a top tier dps and WAR is in almost every endgame content with DRK. But again, I did enjoy your choices of opinions and it was very well put information.
Drk sees the least amount of play of all tanks now. It's no longer worth it.
@@GoatOfWar You would be correct in your statement, but DRK does get a lot of playtime for the hard core players when doing the more difficult endgame content. The initial damage burst DRK brings when opening can't be done by any other tank
Your way of thinking about the job gameplay and their ranking, totally aligns with mine, and I believe, with lots of people. Thanks for the time you took.
Hey man when DT drops will you do controller guides for a lot of jobs? I can never figure out where I should set certain abilities and using yours would be super useful, I think a ton of new controller players would appreciate it too.
All of this! I haven't found a tier list i agree with more.
We appear to have very opposite opinions for most of the jobs 😂 but I watched all the way through anyway and will be sending this to my buddy looking to get into FFXIV 😁 great video!
Great vid, good thing you also showed gameplay and not just staired at the job icons like most people do when making tier lists 😂
THANK YOU for making Bard S-Rank! I love the party support aspect, and mob crowd control is so easy compared to other jobs. It just doesn’t have the rizz other jobs have at the moment. 🤷♂️
Hey an, that is an awesome video! Enjoyed every second :D Really helpful overview and of course cosidering some biased moments :) But who is not biased in the life :D
If I'm being honest, I wouldn't mind seeing another class pairing like Smn/Sch in a future release. Imagine if we had a Tank/DPS combo, or a Tank/Healer combo. It's a bit of a shame there aren't more classes like Smn/Sch that give you that "two for the price of one" combo. It would facilitate players who might not have a lot of time to level a bunch of classes, but want to dabble in all roles.