"How To": 99-06 GM Spare tire Hoist Permanent Fix
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024
- GMT800’s (1999-2006 GM full-size trucks) all have one common issue that is going to happen: the spare tire hoist stops working. This is the easiest fix for it. It’s permanent, and best of all, FREE (provided you have the tools, or a buddy with them).
Best suggestion ever - cutting the stupid plastic guide tube off. Now I can see exactly why my crappy aftermarket Chinese jack handle extensions weren't spinning the lowering mechanism. The square opening on the extension was too big! A few taps with my little mall and now it's a perfect fit. Many thanks!
I have had 2 of these trucks and the cheapness of all of this hardware designed into this truck officially sent me to a Toyota
No underhood light amazed me
@@contour157 The early gmt 800 did!! They also had cabin air filters, disc brakees in the rear, and floor lamps!! GM got RID of them entirely.
I just took mine apart, freed everything up, dipped it lanolin, sprayed down the whole assembly with lanolin - inside/outside/cable, spring, tube, and spare tire. Every other year. ZERO corrosion or hang ups and buttery smooth descends & hoists. The stuff is great!
Great information, my Chevy S 10 pickup had the tube bent during a adventure, now it’s removed and hoist is cleaned and lubricated.
Good vid. Im cutting my hook now. My cable is prestine so no worries of it snapping. If i want extra security, ill just use a ratchet strap as a secondary lock or something
Just a tip I learned dealing with my Chevy Avalanche 2002 1500: My hoist was binding and I couldn't get it to turn (while the spare tire was still in place). It would just turn a little bit and then click and not turn anymore so it would not lower the cable. I was considering cutting the cable and then ordering a new hoist. To remove the hoist I figured I had to wiggle it a bit, but since the spare tire was still attached and tight against the frame, I wasn't sure how I could wiggle it. So next I let out some air from the tire and that released the tension on the hoist and then IT STOPPED BINDING and worked normally.
Thanks for the upload. Mine wouldn’t release for nothing. I greased it up two years ago and while doing maintenance I couldn’t get the tire to drop. Sawzalled the thing out and ordered a new on. Done..!
I just did the same thing, 2 hrs to get this thing out. Lucky thing I was at home getting ready to put in a new hitch. Glad it was home
I did it, the fact that engineers designed this nightmare is shocking.
My latch was rusted into oblivion. After cleaning, grinding, air hammering, and a whole can of PB blaster I found this video. Problem solved. I would still suggest folks fully extend the cable to inspect it for any issues.
I want to clarify. I have a spare hoist on my bench, and I can play with and see how it works, and this is important: If the cable snaps on the stock holder with the hook, the spare tire will NOT fall off. Please stop saying that if the cable breaks it wouldn’t matter and the spare will fall off anyway. NO IT WONT. I appreciate this video, but let’s get proper information out there. I HATE stuff that seizes and is a pain so yes maintenance is key. But cutting the hook off really does make it possible for the spare to fall off if the cable breaks. I don’t know why the aftermarket ones have no hook, but I am talking about the stock one. Cheers.
I just took mine down (after beating on it for over an hour) and cut that dam catch knob off the holder. Now it will come down every time.I don't see that cable busting any time soon. It's as think as my winch cable and that's good for 3500 lbs.!
Just be sure to properly maintain it by inspecting and cleaning the cable every 6 months.
I've got both a Sierra and a Ford Ranger. The Ranger doesn't have a hook, just the cable, and there's never been an issue with it (I let down the tire and lubricate the cable and mechanism once a year). I was surprised when I found out about the hook on my GM, and of course, it's totally seized. Add unnecessary mechanical complexity to a dirt and corrosion-prone area and there's always gonna be trouble!
Priceless
Really. Really. Appreciate it
Good information, you did a great job presenting the information. Can I suggest a microphone with a windsock
Jeeping Mo thanks for the feedback. that’s one of the things I’m wanting to get. I have a small blue tooth mic that works pretty well, but it still needs a wind blocker.
Good info man. Got same issue on my 05 sierra. Gonna give it a shot. Thanks
New to me very nice '04 Surburban, Z71 from Kansas and been in Mich. 4 yrs. Spare is flat so figured to drop and seal bead. Watched this vid., used WD40, used pry bars, hammered and didn't cuss, read owners manual but couldn't get that wheel off hook. After 90 min. decided to rewatch vid to know which side hook is on,,,that's important. Then I thought maybe I can slide my big 1/2 wide, 7" steel shaft, double fisted screwdriver through the lug nut hole and push that hook in. Working by myself I raised hoist up for hook to clear lip and lowered it easy peasy. Pretty ticked G.M. came up with that system leaving people stranded, possible dangerous situations and big wrecker bills. Glad I was home with tools and not on expressway. Not sure what I will do but remove hook as shown and tire chained to frame might work for me. Thanks to this vid. I also know this spare is original, never been on the ground and made 10th week 2004. Totally no good to even use on my farm wagons, pure junk. Again THANK YOU for this excellent video. Greetings from the farm near Battle Creek, Mi.
He is, however, right about dropping the spare at least annually to clean and lubricate it thoroughly - even if you have to pay a 'mechanic' to do it.
find out my tire was gone this morning, cable snapped. RIP spare tire. To bad it wasn't the spare tire around my waist that fell off.
Yeah, I wouldn’t mind losing that spare tire too!
The cable snapping is all due to a lack of maintenance. Lower the spare at least once every 6 months and then clean and regrease the cable and hoist internals. It’s very similar to the maintenance that should be done on a steel winch cable, which is another place people neglect doing proper maintenance.
@@takeroadslesstraveled6505 , It’s a 2001 Sierra, that cable has been under constant tension holding a 60 pound tire suspended off the ground for 20 years.
Can you replace the cable mine is ready to break on97
Smokey, nope, replace the whole mechanism. They're fairly inexpensive though.
Thanks so much, this is very helpful!
Golden.
good advise .Thanks
Interesting video I have 2 questions.. Number one: if you can't get it to come down at all from turning the Jack through the bumper, what is the next natural step.. I have an 02 Silverado. It has 105 K on it. I have never dropped a spare tire as I have never had a flat nor thought about changing the spare tire.. Now I'm older and wiser lol, and I wanna rotate to a new spare tire.. Number 2. I don't quite follow the hook issue.. On all the RUclips videos it just says put the bar in the hole and turn counter clockwise. it doesn't say to push the Spring and release the hook. so what am I missing? thanks for your time
If you have the owners manual, it shows that to release the spare you have to use the jack to push the spring, then use the bars to let some cable out, then lower the jack. This keeps pressure on the spring which keeps the hook disengaged as the spare tire is lowered down enough to let the hook clear the mechanism. If it won’t lower down at all using this method, it means the hook is seized in place and you’re in for a real fun time (not really).
You’ll need to spray some rust inhibitor (wd40, kroil, pb blaster, etc) on the mechanism and spring while the spare is still in place. Let it sit for 30 minutes and then try to lower the spare using the factory manual method. Repeat this process until it works. It’s a pain in the butt really.
A lot of people have commented on how this video is removing a safety feature and I’m risking my spare falling out while driving down the road. If that’s the case, tell me why every replacement mechanism, even those from GM dealers, do NOT have the hook on them.
Proper maintenance on the mechanism will mean you have no worries of it falling out.
@@takeroadslesstraveled6505 I appreciate that. So the way the manual describes it that is the standard way to remove a spare tire to bear tire to raise the bottle Jack into the Spring to take off the pressure or just if you think it's stuck
great mind and video thanks a bunch !
glad it helped!
Wish I can get that plastic trim that’s so difficult to keep from fading that good on my 2002 avalanche!!
Removed all the plastic trim
Washed with warm soapy water and distilled water rinse
Sanded with 2000 grit pad
Rinsed with mineral spirits
Dust coating of Rustoleum semi gloss black spray
Full coat of spray followed by 2000 grit sanding pad once fully dry
2nd full coat of spray followed by 3000 grit sanding pad once fully dry
3rd full coat of spray
Reinstalled all trim work.
@@takeroadslesstraveled6505 Impossible for me in my condition to even attempt that! Sucks having a medical condition
That hook is critical, mine wouldn't reengage and later the spare fell out, when I don't know but I hope it didn't cause an accident.
it's really not critical. It's a secondary safety that has been an issue for years on these trucks. A replacement part does NOT have the safety hook on it. IF your spare fully fell out, it's probably due to the cable snapping, which means that hook wouldn't have done a thing to help.
The best thing you can do, and this is what people fail to do, is to check your equipment regularly (every 3 months is a good practice). I be sure to fully extend the cable, clean it, lube it, and check the psi in the spare tire. The mechanisms fail and the tire gets stuck due to people not doing this, which is what happened with mine. The previous owner didn't do the regular maintenance he should have, so I developed a fix for it.
I ran over your tire with my astro van. Ripped off my oil pan. Tore the y pipe off the engine. Tore off the transmission cross member. Lucky it was an astro van. Put another 150,000 miles on it after
@@matthewbangert2462 Ha!
You must live in the salt belt and have a rust-eaten vehicle if a tire did all that to an Astro Van.
I wonder if the replacements that lack that safety have something different going on internally. I feel like the safety latch is an added expense the manufacturer wouldn't have added without a solid reason to. Believe me I don't like it either but I don't want to be wrong and get sued or find my spare damaged when I need it.
Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING I have been able to find, and that includes talking with dealerships, parts stores, and even emails to GM execs, as to the reason for the secondary latch was purely from their legal team so that if the cable snapped GM couldn't be sued.
I say so many times, both in comment replies and in both videos I've posted about the hoist... It's all about proper maintenance. If you maintain it like you should, you'll be perfectly fine with zero reasons to worry about the spare dropping out.
@@takeroadslesstraveled6505 If someone is truly concerned with safety after removing the hook, they could just use a ratchet tie down strap to the spare to frame cross member somewhere as a secondary precaution.
Gonna cut that hook right f'in now! Thanks
Super easy fix. The hook is purely a secondary safety that none of the replacement designs use, so why have it still?
@@takeroadslesstraveled6505 - thanks again. I got lucky and did this all in my garage because I needed to swap the spare on. This would have been an absolute nightmare to be stuck on the side of the road struggling with that stupid hook. But no more worries - that hook is gone!!! ;-)
Very smart thinking thanks........
No, it's very dumb thinking. The hook is for safety.
THANK YOU!!!!!
Glad it helped!
My '02 Tahoe's spare tire hoist is inop. Hoist's nut turns both ways, yet spare tire's stuck in raised position. How do I lower spare? Cut bottom end of cable, & remove spare, + fix/replace hoist's failure?
If you can’t get the safety catch the release using a pry bar/screw driver, then yes, you’ll need to cut the cable end and replace the hoist assembly with a new one.
I can't get my peice to latch onto anything to loosen the nut to get the spare. it feels like I'm twisting on a flat surface or something. Do you think it's the thing around the nut blocking it?
You can remove the tubing that runs from the bumper to the lift mechanism. Do that and then you should be able to easily get the square-end bar on the hoist.
How to engage jack handle in lift with tire blocking view after you removed the tube guide?
With the tube out of the way it just slides right on. Super easy.
That is a safety feature that you just overrode. If the cable breaks there will be nothing to hold the spare tire up. I hope you don't cause a major accident if the cable ever breaks. I would never do that, I think of others.
Everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING I have been able to find, and that includes talking with dealerships, parts stores, and even emails to GM execs, as to the reason for the secondary latch was purely from their legal team so that if the cable snapped GM couldn't be sued.
I say it so many times, both in comment replies and in both videos I've posted about the hoist... It's all about proper maintenance. If you maintain it like you should, you'll be perfectly fine with zero reasons to worry about the cable snapping and the spare dropping out.
@@takeroadslesstraveled6505 The cables do break. And GMs legal team can't bring dead people back to life. You totally missed my point anyway.
Yep , my tire feel off while in motion because the hook was broken.
The cable snapped and my tire was chasing me down the hiway.
Hate to say it ,your fix is not a fix.
It's an accident waiting to happen.
A spare tire at 70 mph is a giant bullet waiting to kill someone on the hiway .
Point taken. But also, your cable most likely snapped due to a lack of proper maintenance and regular inspection to ensure everything was in good working order. A cable in good condition will not simply snap. I may be wrong, but I’d bet that a rusty cable played a big role in your circumstance. Regular maintenance on these things is OFTEN overlooked, just like most people don’t regularly check the air pressure in their spare like they should, or even replace the spare due to its age. Not trying to insult you at all, just saying that I’m confident other factors played a role outside of, “my cable snapped”.
You are a liar.
But as he said the replacements are not coming with the hooks anymore. If that is correct then this is good fix
@@joharshaikh True. Installed a new one yesterday in my truck. Thank God - no hook. I had a couple of previous instances where I could not get the spare down when I got a flat because of it. I think the cable is slightly thicker gage in the replacements.
@@redpine8665 My Tahoe's hoist is stuck now, & in the up position. Hoist nut just turns, yet doesn't lower-raise spare. How do I lower my spare tire?
Mine won't turn, so I can't even get the cable to drop... The tire is in the way, so I can't get to the top. The black bars bend out of square, and the end rounds out instead of turning. How do I get the cable down without being able to reach that square with a different wrench?
Run a ratchet strap across the tire from each side of the frame to hold it in place and cut the retainer at the rim hub off with a grinder. Carefully remove the spare and then remove the junk hoist. Buy a replacement unit and install.
@@takeroadslesstraveled6505 I finally got it off late last night. I took a piece of steel round stock, and slid it down the hole for the tire rods, and BEAT the ever living hell out of that mech, then took my bars and after bending them square again, heat treated one end to make it tougher. Finally I sprays TONS of WD 40 down the hole and let it sit for awhile.. finally I beat the rods onto the mech and was able to get it to break free and turn. I've never had the spare out of this truck. Lol. In the 22years I've had it, never once needed it. Pulled it this time to service the rear diff. Also mine (from the factory) didn't have a 2ns catch..
Thx
That stupid metal hook rust welded itself and had to spend 30 minutes pouring the shit out of my tire to make it come down
Things like this really annoy me, like Chevy couldn't just spend and extra $10 per vehicle to make the part the right way from the beginning...?
I dont have the extention to get the spare tire out in the first place i need to know how to get it down with out them
A long 1/2" drive extension will work too. You need about 3' of length for the extension (join a few together if you don't have a single extension long enough) if the plastic guide tube is still in place. If you pull that guide tube out, then you can cut that needed extension length in half.
I am going to get a tire cover hoping it protects the hoist.
You could do that, but this is also a free fix to a well known issue. The problem you’re still going to have even with using a cover on the spare is that moisture and dust and stuff can still get into the hoist and give you the exact same issue.
The cable will likely break eventually.
Regular maintenance is a key part of keeping the mechanism working properly. Often times people don’t ever touch their spare tire for the entire time they own a vehicle.
Operating and lubricating the hoist and cable should be done every time you rotate your tires. Do this, and it’ll last you a long time.
And what to do if cable breaks ?
@@smokeymartin5329 duck and cover
Wouldn't matter if the hook was there or not if the cable snaps. That's why regular inspection and maintenance of the spare and hoist is critical. None of the replacement mechanisms that you can buy have the hook on them. If you inspect it like you should, you'll see any issues with it before you have a spare tire drop out from under the truck while driving.
Sir do u know the exact bolt size for the tire hoist because I lost mine?
The bolt that holds the hoist to the crossmember? If so, it should be a M14 1.5 - 60mm 10.9
08 is M10 x 1.5mm about 30mm long cap head bolt or a hex with a flat washer
I am missing the hoist it self from my 2004 suburban didnt know till I want and bought a new set
Pretty interesting that the entire system was missing from yours. At least now you have a new one and don't have to worry about that pointless latch though!
Worst design ever
I took mine down and never put it back
He has defeated the SAFETY device. He dismisses it because the replacement parts he has found do not match the OEM part he has modified. If he is involved in an accident due to the spare winch failing, he could be held accountable for damages an find his insurance company walking away as a result of his 'fix.'
I appreciate your comment, but please do a little research. Not even the dealer replacement parts have the catch hook, so it’s not a matter of simply “what I could find”.
The only failure would come from an improperly maintained hoist. Do the maintenance properly, and there will be zero issues.
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