That Horizon Zero Dawn performance is pretty damn impressive. It really makes me wish we had a major breakthrough in battery tech that was cheap to implement
This is really interesting! I'm torn between overclocking and undervolting. On the one hand, I've got 2-3 games that can benefit from the extra performance and I don't need the battery capacity often. On the other hand, I love seeing how efficient the deck is. Getting 10-20% more battery life is so tempting...
@@Imblitzyboi i would, but that'd be really hard to get noticeable gains with a stable offset I think I'll go with undervolting primarily, see if I can get that efficiency up. It still boggles my mind how efficient the device is, and more of that is always better!
@@wesleyvandeurzen7199 i don't think we're on the same page, probably due to my lackluster explanation of how I'd tinker with it and use the deck I don't often use the full battery life due to short sessions and generally just being satisfied with the well balanced performance and powerdraw of the device. I'd just undervolt it to see how efficient I can get it That, and I don't wanna bring a bunch of cables and bulky power banks
@@Imblitzyboi This is the way I do it, with a little cooling mod tho. Lower voltage and better cooling keep temps down and frequency is often limited by temps
I played around with your settings and did a few Benchmarks playing both CPU intense and GPU intense games. The Power limits can go this high but it's way too high. I started to thermal throttle so I dialed the settings down. The reason is because while plugged in, the device gets even hotter. I have some suggested beyond the limits settings that are well balanced, still a bit high, but work really well for me. These are my suggestions, they are not recommended. Do not try this unless you are willing to be responsible for it. By design, the APU has to balance the workload between the CPU and GPU. If the TDP is 20W max, and the GPU is getting 15W, that leaves 5W for the CPU which will cause it to underclock creating a bottleneck. Overclocking means you are responsible for the balance. Even if you have the clocks set to max, the device will handle how much power is being allocated. The GPU is most important because it's the lowest clock speed. These are my settings: TDP: 20W | 19W Low 20W High GPU "Gfxclk" clock: Set ForceGfxclkFrequency [1800] GfxclkFmaxOverride [1800] (Max load this will reach ~14.5W) CPU "Cclk" clock: CclkFmaxOverride [3200] (Leave ForceCclkFrequency [0]) Undervolt: 30 Max GPU Load Thermals(Plugged in): ~94c
Power tools really needs some kind of feature where you can have a docked and a handheld preset per game, and then it can switch the TDP settings on the fly depending on if a external display is connected or not.
Yeah undervolting is definately the way to go for saving power on the go but yeah i think overclocking would be great for a docked experience and using the undervolt to minimise damage to the cpu
The best of both worlds is an Undervolt AND an overclock. If one could only choose one though, Undervolting REIGNS SUPREME for mobile devices and even gaming laptops, for better performance, better temps, lower power consumption, and lower fan noise. Nothing equals an undervolt for both the cpu and gpu, it's like magic.
@@samueldraws Partially yes. But even if one had no issues with thermal throttling (Say due to amazing cooling), it would STILL increase performance and consistency. The reason is it would be able to reach higher clocks while consuming less power (Wattage), thus squeezing into the TDP. This applies to nearly everything that isn't on desktop. So say a desktop graphic card like the 3070 (220w), if one undervolted it and it wasn't overclocked but maintained it stock clocks, it would still have the same performance (however instead of consuming say ~200w, one could cut it down to 150w, with the same performance, and also lowering temps by potentially double digits). However if one undervolted the 3070ti laptop card (based on the 3070 desktop card), but kept the same stock clocks, it would actually reach higher performance. Why? Because it has a tdp of max 150w (125w+25 dynamic boost), which would normally be reached if the gpu is at 100% demand (such as with demanding games or benchmarks), and once it reaches it there is a thing called "Power Limit Throttling". If one Undervolted though, instead of hitting the power limit throttle, one could be hitting the same clocks (or even higher) while being at less than 150w. Overclocks would also be more effective, since now it would be able to reach those higher clocks while not bumping into the TDP limit as quickly. With (mobile) Cpu's it's the same thing. To reach higher (sustained) clock speeds, it requires more wattage. By lowering the voltage, one reduces the wattage that is required to reach those same clock speeds, and one can reach even higher clock speeds at the same wattage. Undervolting can actually even improve some desktop Cpu performance, since some Cpu's like those found with Zen 4, boost higher if its within a certain thermal limit. So by undervolting, one will have lower temps, thus allowing it to reach higher clocks. Nvidia with its Gpu Boost (on both desktop and laptop cards) have a similar feature whereby the better the temps, the (slightly) higher clocks it can reach. So lets look at mobile cpu like the 11th gen Intel Tiger Lake, the 11800H. It's an 8 core processor that has 4.5ghz single core, and 4.2ghz all core. However if one is running something like cinbench that stresses all 8 cores, it has to fit into the tdp of say 60w. So at stock it may only be able to sustain ~3.8 or 3.9ghz all core if it has great cooling (liquid metal etc) and no thermal throttling, but it will still hit a Power Limit Throttle since its reaching the PL of 60w. However with an Undervolt, one can then maintain up to the full 4.2ghz all core constantly since it now hits less than 60w. So performance will go up (sometimes by double digits %), and temps will go down, power consumption will go down, and fan demand will go down. Undervolting won't really improve the single core performance though since it would still be able to reach the 4.5ghz on 1 core regardless (usually, barring terrible temps or power limits or something). However it still would lower the power consumption and improve temps, and almost nothing is truly solely "single" core these days.
@@slickrounder6045 This is the way I do it, with a little cooling mod tho. Lower voltage and better cooling keep temps down and frequency is often limited by temps
I got a steam deck back in July and it's awesome knowing that they can be overclocked a decent amount. My Hope Is that somebody creates a tool that can Auto detect whether you're plugged into another screen and then overclock to a higher amount using more power. Though the doc would have to support the increase in power as well the one I have is only like 65 W but that should be more than enough
If you want FSR to be on, you have to manually set your resolution to a lower 16:10 resolution in the settings. Both X and Y need to be smaller size, setting it to 72Op doesn't help. Sometimes you have to switch to full screen or windowed mode to be able to set it. How you show it at 8:34 in Cyberpunk it is turned off. I had the same issue and it seemed as there was no control over FSR, but manually setting res was the solution.
He's using the in-game FSR 2.0 implementation in Cyberpunk here, which doesn't require him to drop the resolution manually. You only need to turn the game resolution down if you want to use the OS FSR 1.0 scaling.
What’s a smaller size the the native 800p one for the steam deck as I’m a noob and don’t know a good resolution to put my deck into, to then use the built in fsr
@@paulc2007 1152x720 is a 16:10 resolution. You could choose one that is (smaller then 1200) x ( smaller than 800) and then test another on if you have borders. Put the overlay at option 5 to see if FSR is turned on after you've chosen the resolution.
@@shremk9100 I didn't know the Deck's icon for FSR was turned off when you do that. I didn't notice much improvements trying it like that in NMS if I remember correctly, I'll try it again.
You madman fully overclocked without modding the cooling. I bought 2 steamdecks myself back then, two 64 GB models. I only provided one with a new ssd 1 tb with your instructions and replaced the noisy fan. With the second model, I replaced the power controller, installed a mobile water cooling system using a power bank, so you can push the steamdeck very brutally to the limit. But it's so bulky that you can't even play with it on the subway, you have to set it up like a space station! Thank you for the great video!
You can also JUST undervolt to actually GAIN battery life, and increase performance and lower temps. Its the most incredible thing one can normally do to help gaming laptops, and it has some benefit as well to things like the Steam Deck.
I'm excited about Asus ROG Handheld. That looks pretty sick. Honestly though, the OneXPlayer 2 Pro is what I will wind up buying. I'm going to save up.
Finally Eta Prime covers undervolting on the Steam Deck (Albeit not really showing it off in action sadly)! That is good news. All we can hope for is that he starts exploring Undervolting on other handhelds, since AATU (Amd Apu Tuning Utility) has been confirmed to work with Zen 4 Dragon Range, and may very well work with the upcoming Zen 4 Phoenix Apu's (which launch in two weeks).
@@ETAPRIME Oh wow, that is incredible news! Yeh i heard that reviewers were getting samples in hand and it launches on the 30th of April, so looking forward to your coming reviews! Please Please Please look into Undervolting, its benefits are enormous (higher performance, higher sustained clocks, lower power consumption, better temps, lower fan noise). Even if something like AATU or Uxtu doesn't work for it yet since its so new (unreleased infact, lol), in the future coming months it may be supported. Some things may also have Bios undervolting enabled (sorta like how one could unlock the hidden bios on Steam Deck to Undervolt it). Not to "glaze" too much, but you are my favorite handheld gaming reviewer, only thing I wish you covered a bit more was tuning, and nothing is as important as Undervolting if it's allowed on a device (such as on Intel Hx laptops on 12th/13th gen, but not for the H processors). Keep up the good work champ!
@@pennywisethedancingclown7139 Good question. As a related aside, one would want an Undervolt active even if in portable mode (maybe especially so), since it will actually help INCREASE the battery life due to the increased power efficiency from the undervolt (assuming no overclock. Albeit an Undervolt and an Overclock is best to combine all the benefits in one). So for example one would be able to hit a constant 30fps at lower wattage with an undervolt. Lets say a game required 10w stock to hit constant 30fps, with an undervolt it might be 9w to hit the same performance. So the temps will be a bit better due to less power output/voltage, and the battery will last a bit longer. Lets say one was using stock 15w tdp, with an undervolt one would be able to reach higher clocks on the cpu/gpu and still fit into the 15w limitation, thus gaining extra performance while consuming the same amount of power.
I tried 20w 4k/2k overclock with 30/30/30 on the undervolt and because I’m on Windows I had to do some workarounds to actually get the system to clock up that high, but was consistently overheating and crashing. I decided on keeping the 20w and knocked the undervolt down to 30/20/20 for stability and set the cpu back to 3500 and left the GPU at 2k and had much better stability. Temps still can get to the mid 80s when pushing but I’m happy with the better stability with my tweaked settings
UPDATE: it wasn’t overheating but whenever I set my deck to a wattage past 15w the system was shutting itself down on its own. This was on battery however so might be different when plugged in. However I am able to keep a stable overclock at 15w setting and still my total power can go up to 28-30w total. Not sure why but it does
@@niceone6785 I tried with micron, and it didn't seem to like it. Bootlooped. Probably something I missed. I'll probably try again once it's been tested more.
This video shows how optimized this SoC already is. 500MHz is not giving it the expected boost so, with advanced settings, is much better to go for an undervolt on the CPU and overclock on the GPU.
It's almost like Valve really knows what they're doing, and if there were any advantages to modifying voltages and frequencies, it would already be a part of the microcode.
This video shows just that 25W TDP is not enought to get the CPU and GPU up to the clocks it could reach. I bet a unlocked TDP limit with a very good cooler, could push the Steam Deck even further for tests.
@@megapro1725 yeah i did it for a while, but i'm on preview branch, they locked it and i haven't checked if there has been another way to unlock it yet. the performance difference was very noticeable.
id like to see elden ring performance with this overclock. That game has always had some inconsistent framerates for me out in the open world. I cant seem to lock it at a solid 40fps no matter what i do.
I may be wrong, but I think such an aggressive overclock and TDP bump should be more heavily qualified than it is in the video. CryoByte33 better errs on the side of recommending more conservative pursuits in his tutorial video, and also notes that there is a risk of “bricking” your Deck when you go too far. This video seems a bit cavalier about it, especially going for 4 GHz/2GHz and throwing caution to the wind on the TDP. I have safely overclocked and undervolted my Deck, but more modestly (+300MHz on both GPU and CPU, upping TDP to 18 watts, while only undervolting 20/20/20). I think the messaging around this sort of overclocking should be less that it is “game changing” and more that when done right it can be a nice way to round off some rougher edges in certain titles. Though according to Reddit, forthcoming BIOS updates from Valve will lock down this functionality, and perhaps for the better. If anyone is itching to push to their device the extremes but don’t have any experience in this realm, I hope they see this video more as evidence of the diminished return on risk rather than an inspiration to try this at home. Otherwise, I see a trend of “bricked” devices shortly on the horizon.
Agreed. Most decks can't reach those clocks and 23w tsp is ludicrous, the vrms I'd imagine are screaming and my deck with a PTM7950 repaste can only handle 18w before it starts hitting 95c in the most demanding games. It takes upwards of thirty minutes though. He is clearly turning the overclock up then not playing for long and making the video. There needs to be large disclaimers on content like this always to discourage the average user from thinking its all sunshine and rainbows.
@@omotosake well certainly don’t just take me word for it-but be wary of any upcoming updates. Let the community test things and see before you rush into anything!
@@Begohan1234 What games? because i can force freaking 30W to the CPU and temps don't go over 80 in games like Control but obviously always you do overclocking you need to watch the temps and mod the cooling system like Linus did and i just glued a big aluminum heatsink (DREMEL WAS NECESSARY TO FIT THAT LOL) with a Noctua 40mm fan to the shield on top of the motherboard and replaced all the pads with copper shims so now it can handle A LOT more power.
That will result in many bricked Decks given you can't reset settings like with a regular CMOS based board. You should have included that people need to make a full binary dump of their BIOS prior to overclocking or changing voltages. Using a CH341A for direct flash is the ONLY way to reset a bricked Deck BIOS. Your video actually might lead to Valve blocking access to the Enhanced BIOS as lots of people will brick their Deck and then RMA. You fail to give a proper warning and make seem the whole process like just everyone can do it easily which is very misleading to say the least.
@Aristoteles really? U think they dont have some sort of jtag connector on the board that can tell them that it's been tampered with? Given the ease of doing this mod, this would be the 1st things they could check.
I change the ppt settings in my unlocked bios to 17w, save, exit. When I return to bios the ppt has returned to 15w. It would be nice to have this to sustain a smooth 40 fps with nice graphics and not taxing the battery too hard.
The new steamdeck bios that's coming out with 3.5 doesn't allow you to use umaf. Be careful what you change with umaf because you can easily brick the steamdeck
This is why i would have loved a larger quieter fan, quiet and slightly more efficient when mobile due to less energy going to sound, but then dock it, and bump up to 2.2Ghz on the GPU to drive external displays
I'm surprised at the temps you're getting. I had 19w with 2000 on GPU, but CPU wouldn't do more than 3600 without being 85-96c o.0. Will try a repaste :P
I immediately replicated the same OC you're running. I almost exclusively play this wired from room to room and in the off-chance I take this out and about.. it's in small spurts of a few minutes here and there. Not concerned about battery life.
There's actually a bug in the cpu part where the threads are not fed enough memory bandwidth, the upcoming kernel update will be fixing this so the cpu should be more faster. You should get almost double or 80% more performance from the cpu since this is not an issue on windows.
"There used to be a hardcoded behavior in the Linux kernel on the AMD side, where if a core goes to sleep, it invalidates its cache, because by the time it wakes up the cache might not be valid," said Griffais. "It turns out that when you have two threads on the same core, and one thread is still working on something, and the second SMT thread goes to sleep, it throws away its cache using the same logic. So the thread that's running suddenly loses its L3 cache. In terms of CPU, that's really bad. It has to kind of refetch everything from memory-lots of latency, basically a 'bubble' in computing. And your frametime goes to shit. So that's what was happening." Only applies to very few applications and games. Witcher 3 or any other modern game won't benefit or get very small gains. 80% gains won't happen as with modern software, no thread goes to sleep on Deck.
@@Ford.Prefect FPS gain will only show with cpu bound games, it won't give the gpu a performance increase unless the drivers has been further optimized. i mean ~80% increase in multiheaded performance in geekbench because windows doesn't suffer from this problem.
Cool to see things like this, but I would never use it, without being able to change the default cooler, the thermals can go crazy and really shorten the lifespan of the Steam Deck
@@TheWendellpaulo because it shuts down at 100, the max rated temp is 110. So the system shuts down before you get close to the max rated spec. Also, the way the steam deck can profile is set by default is to hit and stay at a higher temp instead of cooling well. So it’s essentially targeting 80-90c. You can change the fan profile and it will produce lower temps.
Seriously how is he running 35watts without over heating???? I can’t get past 20 TDP with a negative 50-50-50 under volt and fantastic at 7000 rpm without the deck shutting off what am i missing??
I would be more curious to see if overclock would negate the load of a resolution bump from 720p to 1080p, that would be a nice option when docking to a monitor or TV.
It depends on the game and how far your steam deck will go but if you have the clocks dialed in a per game basis id say it could help alot around a 3 to 15 percent performance improvement based on game optimisation and what it uses the most if your using most emulators id go for a cpuoverclock and for games like cyberpunk and for a game like red dead turn the gpu clock up and so awnser is its complicated and remember to undervolt
Most processor overclocks will benefit emulation across the board. Maybe +2-5 frames in this case, in most emulators. In regards to switch emu, it could mean the difference between frame locked and frame underserved. Some titles are that close to perfect on the Steam Deck. RAM overclocks benefit the GPU side of things for the most part, and will offer less benefit to emulation.
I'd love to see if you could benchmark my Cyberpunk 2077 Golden 40 Preset with those clock speeds! Would be interesting if that would bump this neat headroom I universally take into account into 60's region. This should suit your needs much more, as this preset should look much better than what you've shown.
Can you do a review on the 32gb ram upgrade? I'm interested in it because I have to tear mine down to fix the r1 button and want to be sure its worth the hassle. I think it would be a very cool project
after watching cryobyte's video on this subject I came to the conclusion that it's not worth it but if I can get those frames on horizon zero dawn then I will definitely give it a try. The game doesn't play great for me even if i have the fps locked at 30
Hey Mr. prime doesn't have anything to do with this but I wanted to hope you see this. Ok I did your 150 i7 build and needed a SATA 8 pin for my rtx960 I went and got a double end to 8pin because I seen you use it so I got one what I was wondering is the good for the stock power supply I did get a 500 watt for a i5 I got but did work right and I messed it up rewiring so I scared to install it I wanted to know if this is good for what I'm doing. Thanks again Mr prime for years of learning.
@@nexxusty The deck has 16GB of LPDDR5 clocked at 2750mhz/5500MT/s which is shared between the GPU and the entire system. It's the same pool of memory. With smokeless umaf, you can push the clock speed to 3200mhz/6400MT/s
@@keeganbowers4949 Oh yeah, its an iGPU. Duh. Lol. Also I remember Valve specifically choosing the best LPDDR5 RAM they could at the time just because of bandwidth issues if they hadn't. Really interested in buying a Steam Deck now that you can OC It. Absolutely clocking the LPDDR5 to 6400mhz would make the most difference as the Deck is still very bandwidth limited. Appreciate you setting me straight. Lol. I'm good now.
Mine can hit 4ghz/2ghz as well however sweet spot is 3.9/1900mhz as mentioned and cpu undervolted -85, GPU -30, SOC -30, great battery life and 78C under load max, the 4ghz/2ghz is very power hungry and makes GPU dip a lot more
I'm getting 90+ degrees on 19w tdp, this video is a little misleading. I mean you can always overclock to 5ghz but will it be able to sustain those clocks..? No. This video shows the highest CPU clock of around 3600-3700mhz and it's not even sustained. Van Gogh series of Apu generally need 25w to sustain 3800mhz. That should tell you all you need to know in regards to 4ghz overclock, not usable/viable... My current settings without any thermal paste / extra cooling solutions. Undervolt CPU SOC GPU at minus 31/30/34 CPU 3600mhz GPU 1800mhz 17w tdp Getting between 80-85degrees C after many hours of demanding AAA play. Both GPU and CPU can maintain 3600 and 1800 MHz all the time 100% With thermal replacement and jsaux backplate I think it's easy to bump tdp to 18-19w and a little higher on the GPU clocks.
I don't have the option to access AMD CBS. I have two entries for device manager, but the only thing under them are driver health checks, no settings. Did I miss a step?
@@sedalespencer69 you can find video on youtube, just write "steam deck 6400mhz", but you can chose only 5500 and 6400, because other frequencys brick your deck .-.
My Steamdeck crashes on windows very often because it gets to hot and this is without overclocking. Therefore I don't think its a good way to overclock this thing
I didn't know the steam deck's CPU was that weak, tbh ARM is the future of these handhelds, an 8 gen 2 would beat this in CPU and GPU performance, while consuming less power. Microsoft needs to make windows on ARM good
8 gen 2 would CLAP this apu. This apu is just a higher clock versiom of exynos 2200 if i know correct. Imagine a ultrabook with 8gen2 dream come true 😩
@@theblitz1687 It doesn't run Steam, GOG, Epic, Origin games. Yes, it would be a nice SoC for an ARM based laptop or mini pc. I'm not sure why you bring this up in comments about a video of a x86-64 handheld. Also comparing a Zen 2 based SoC to a current gen ARM SoC doesn't make any sense.
@@Ford.Prefect as i said this x86 apu (its gpu at least) is like a higher clock/ more shader version of exynos 2200. Now imagine SD using a higher core/clock version of adreno 740 in 8gen2. It would be like 1.5x-2x more efficient
@ETA, what are the CPU and GPU frequencies you get when running the Steam Deck on stock when running CP2077? I do not own a Steam Deck so I don;t know the stock behavior of this chip. How much is it throttling btw, cause seeing it not reach 35W combined yet have very high temps on the package it seems like it's practical max oc is 25W due to the temps.
Yea id say so without additional cooling and they optimised the peformance curve quite heavily for low wattage so you wouldnt want to go higher anyway you would only get 3 to 10 percent more for twenty more watts even while docked with solid cooling while shorting the chips life significantly
I've had a deck since q1 and I still can't figure out how to use FSR and I've never seen FSR 2 anywhere in my quick access menu. Can anyone please help me figure out what's the deal with SFR how to use it and how do I get FSR2??
I have a steamdeck and I don't see why you would want to overclock it. Anyway being a portable device I think the wear and tear will break it soon before the incresead temperatures and/or voltage will.
Underclock with a proper undervolt typically won't cause noticeable wear on components. Reason being the undervolt will lessen the power draw and help to mitigate increased temps of an over clock. That really just boils down to chip lottery though and there's a chance you can't undervolt without causing system instability.
Playing cyberpunk with proton GE 7.55 I get 2950 frames in the bench and better lows and average fps (same steam deck settings, plain 720p, no fsr or other upscaling) -cryoutilities enabled" So no need for overclocking for me atm ;)
Honestly in my experience, FSR doesn’t work very well in some games, especially Cyberpunk and Spider-Man, I can’t tolerate the pixelated background it just hurts my eyes lol
Yeah, I think if I was going to fiddle with this I would just undervolt for better thermals and battery life. I don't really play anything on the Deck that's too demanding.
Overclocking portable systems is like when a dog will spend 45 minutes begging for a piece of cheese, and then when you give it to the dog, they inhale the slice in 1/10th of a second. All that work, so you can slurp down that already tiny battery in even less time. Portable systems are not performance restricted because the manufacturer hates you, it's so the battery doesn't last 10 minutes.
That's not possible, even if the device put out 40(much more needed to equal 10 minutes) watts of power consumption it would only be an hour of battery life, the real issue is heating and possible throttling because of heat, but that's really it other than silicon lottery and stability
Sorry but this video contains lots of misinformation. For starters in order for the Deck to actually gain any meaningful performance overclocking you need to unlock the PBO current limits because the Jupiter SoC is both power and current constrained and then upgrade the cooling system because the single super slim heatpipe the Deck has already struggles to dissipate 15W of constant load let alone twice as much and last but not least is better to use Windows or other Linux distro because i think that Valve has some hardcoded limits set on SteamOs at the kernel level because i was never been able to force the SoC to use 30W no mater what and in Windows the 30W power limit is hit without problems. For doing all this i used UMAF in bios and RyzenAdj in Windows and obviously all this overclocking with all current and power limits restrictions lifted needs to be done with the Deck plugged in and not on battery as there is high risk of burning the PMIC charging IC otherwise.
You didn't show us the copy and extraction of the files into the SD card. I don't know if I just extract the folder to the SD card, or if I have to extract the folder and then open the folder and take all of the files and then place the files into the main SD card and then delete the original folder. You gave absolutely no details with that
you overclock while i'm trying to figure out how to make fan to spin. if i use arch on deck sometimes the fan seems to not spin. i even got the deck to shutdown a few times.
That Horizon Zero Dawn performance is pretty damn impressive. It really makes me wish we had a major breakthrough in battery tech that was cheap to implement
Portable charger lmao
they're heavy bulky and annoying@@minty_x
I had no problem with portal charger on my sega game gear back in 1994
You can either have a better and larger batter or a more efficient APU. The later seems way easier here
Thank you for mentioning Cryobytes video! Send people to that channel! Dude is awesome!
I would like to see how the Steam Deck OLED performs with an OC, considering: upgraded thermal design, faster RAM, and a die shrink.
That what I want to know too. Just by unlocking the TDP with stock clocks the 6nm Chip should boost higher and longer compared to the 7nm Chip.
Yeah. I want to see this too!
How did you upgrade the thermal design?
@@stephenspeliades2941No Valve did.
I agree! Since it's a smaller node it might perform better with OC
This is really interesting! I'm torn between overclocking and undervolting.
On the one hand, I've got 2-3 games that can benefit from the extra performance and I don't need the battery capacity often.
On the other hand, I love seeing how efficient the deck is. Getting 10-20% more battery life is so tempting...
Then overclock while undervolting for best of both worlds WARNING you can brick it if your not very careful so do it at your own risk
Just use a power bank
@@Imblitzyboi i would, but that'd be really hard to get noticeable gains with a stable offset
I think I'll go with undervolting primarily, see if I can get that efficiency up. It still boggles my mind how efficient the device is, and more of that is always better!
@@wesleyvandeurzen7199 i don't think we're on the same page, probably due to my lackluster explanation of how I'd tinker with it and use the deck
I don't often use the full battery life due to short sessions and generally just being satisfied with the well balanced performance and powerdraw of the device. I'd just undervolt it to see how efficient I can get it
That, and I don't wanna bring a bunch of cables and bulky power banks
@@Imblitzyboi This is the way I do it, with a little cooling mod tho. Lower voltage and better cooling keep temps down and frequency is often limited by temps
I played around with your settings and did a few Benchmarks playing both CPU intense and GPU intense games. The Power limits can go this high but it's way too high. I started to thermal throttle so I dialed the settings down. The reason is because while plugged in, the device gets even hotter. I have some suggested beyond the limits settings that are well balanced, still a bit high, but work really well for me. These are my suggestions, they are not recommended. Do not try this unless you are willing to be responsible for it. By design, the APU has to balance the workload between the CPU and GPU. If the TDP is 20W max, and the GPU is getting 15W, that leaves 5W for the CPU which will cause it to underclock creating a bottleneck. Overclocking means you are responsible for the balance. Even if you have the clocks set to max, the device will handle how much power is being allocated.
The GPU is most important because it's the lowest clock speed.
These are my settings:
TDP: 20W | 19W Low 20W High
GPU "Gfxclk" clock: Set ForceGfxclkFrequency [1800] GfxclkFmaxOverride [1800] (Max load this will reach ~14.5W)
CPU "Cclk" clock: CclkFmaxOverride [3200] (Leave ForceCclkFrequency [0])
Undervolt: 30
Max GPU Load Thermals(Plugged in): ~94c
If i just remove the backplate and put a good aircooler there when plugged in, would it be cooler?
Power tools really needs some kind of feature where you can have a docked and a handheld preset per game, and then it can switch the TDP settings on the fly depending on if a external display is connected or not.
This would be an awesome feature.
Yeah undervolting is definately the way to go for saving power on the go but yeah i think overclocking would be great for a docked experience and using the undervolt to minimise damage to the cpu
The best of both worlds is an Undervolt AND an overclock. If one could only choose one though, Undervolting REIGNS SUPREME for mobile devices and even gaming laptops, for better performance, better temps, lower power consumption, and lower fan noise. Nothing equals an undervolt for both the cpu and gpu, it's like magic.
@@samueldraws Partially yes. But even if one had no issues with thermal throttling (Say due to amazing cooling), it would STILL increase performance and consistency. The reason is it would be able to reach higher clocks while consuming less power (Wattage), thus squeezing into the TDP. This applies to nearly everything that isn't on desktop.
So say a desktop graphic card like the 3070 (220w), if one undervolted it and it wasn't overclocked but maintained it stock clocks, it would still have the same performance (however instead of consuming say ~200w, one could cut it down to 150w, with the same performance, and also lowering temps by potentially double digits). However if one undervolted the 3070ti laptop card (based on the 3070 desktop card), but kept the same stock clocks, it would actually reach higher performance. Why? Because it has a tdp of max 150w (125w+25 dynamic boost), which would normally be reached if the gpu is at 100% demand (such as with demanding games or benchmarks), and once it reaches it there is a thing called "Power Limit Throttling". If one Undervolted though, instead of hitting the power limit throttle, one could be hitting the same clocks (or even higher) while being at less than 150w. Overclocks would also be more effective, since now it would be able to reach those higher clocks while not bumping into the TDP limit as quickly.
With (mobile) Cpu's it's the same thing. To reach higher (sustained) clock speeds, it requires more wattage. By lowering the voltage, one reduces the wattage that is required to reach those same clock speeds, and one can reach even higher clock speeds at the same wattage.
Undervolting can actually even improve some desktop Cpu performance, since some Cpu's like those found with Zen 4, boost higher if its within a certain thermal limit. So by undervolting, one will have lower temps, thus allowing it to reach higher clocks. Nvidia with its Gpu Boost (on both desktop and laptop cards) have a similar feature whereby the better the temps, the (slightly) higher clocks it can reach.
So lets look at mobile cpu like the 11th gen Intel Tiger Lake, the 11800H. It's an 8 core processor that has 4.5ghz single core, and 4.2ghz all core. However if one is running something like cinbench that stresses all 8 cores, it has to fit into the tdp of say 60w. So at stock it may only be able to sustain ~3.8 or 3.9ghz all core if it has great cooling (liquid metal etc) and no thermal throttling, but it will still hit a Power Limit Throttle since its reaching the PL of 60w. However with an Undervolt, one can then maintain up to the full 4.2ghz all core constantly since it now hits less than 60w. So performance will go up (sometimes by double digits %), and temps will go down, power consumption will go down, and fan demand will go down. Undervolting won't really improve the single core performance though since it would still be able to reach the 4.5ghz on 1 core regardless (usually, barring terrible temps or power limits or something). However it still would lower the power consumption and improve temps, and almost nothing is truly solely "single" core these days.
@@slickrounder6045 This is the way I do it, with a little cooling mod tho. Lower voltage and better cooling keep temps down and frequency is often limited by temps
@@slickrounder6045 very wise my good sir
I got a steam deck back in July and it's awesome knowing that they can be overclocked a decent amount. My Hope Is that somebody creates a tool that can Auto detect whether you're plugged into another screen and then overclock to a higher amount using more power. Though the doc would have to support the increase in power as well the one I have is only like 65 W but that should be more than enough
If you want FSR to be on, you have to manually set your resolution to a lower 16:10 resolution in the settings. Both X and Y need to be smaller size, setting it to 72Op doesn't help. Sometimes you have to switch to full screen or windowed mode to be able to set it. How you show it at 8:34 in Cyberpunk it is turned off. I had the same issue and it seemed as there was no control over FSR, but manually setting res was the solution.
He's using the in-game FSR 2.0 implementation in Cyberpunk here, which doesn't require him to drop the resolution manually. You only need to turn the game resolution down if you want to use the OS FSR 1.0 scaling.
What’s a smaller size the the native 800p one for the steam deck as I’m a noob and don’t know a good resolution to put my deck into, to then use the built in fsr
@@paulc2007 1152x720 is a 16:10 resolution.
You could choose one that is (smaller then 1200) x ( smaller than 800) and then test another on if you have borders. Put the overlay at option 5 to see if FSR is turned on after you've chosen the resolution.
@@shremk9100 I didn't know the Deck's icon for FSR was turned off when you do that.
I didn't notice much improvements trying it like that in NMS if I remember correctly, I'll try it again.
@@monkeybase01 It also has to be in windowed mod, else it doesn't work (sometimes it works in borderless but windowed mode is the safe bet).
Would love to see cost/benefit of overclocking with the new OLED deck, and Steam OS 3.5!
You madman fully overclocked without modding the cooling. I bought 2 steamdecks myself back then, two 64 GB models.
I only provided one with a new ssd 1 tb with your instructions and replaced the noisy fan.
With the second model, I replaced the power controller, installed a mobile water cooling system using a power bank, so you can push the steamdeck very brutally to the limit. But it's so bulky that you can't even play with it on the subway, you have to set it up like a space station!
Thank you for the great video!
Oh my God for only 10 minutes of battery life? Awesome I can't wait
Plug in
You can also JUST undervolt to actually GAIN battery life, and increase performance and lower temps. Its the most incredible thing one can normally do to help gaming laptops, and it has some benefit as well to things like the Steam Deck.
@Carl Gunderson I choose not to
@@slickrounder6045 how do you get more performance with less power? Wouldn't it stay mostly the same and just consume less?
It is just undervolt It when overclocking, you will actually gain battery life doing this way.
I bet that overclocking smells so sweet!
Seeing this Steam Deck Pro, I want to take my garbage 512 and throw it in the trash.
😂
Deck is trash. Pee on it before you throw it
I'm excited about Asus ROG Handheld. That looks pretty sick. Honestly though, the OneXPlayer 2 Pro is what I will wind up buying. I'm going to save up.
@@comixof2morrow that asus ROG ally looks nice
Give it to me
Finally Eta Prime covers undervolting on the Steam Deck (Albeit not really showing it off in action sadly)! That is good news. All we can hope for is that he starts exploring Undervolting on other handhelds, since AATU (Amd Apu Tuning Utility) has been confirmed to work with Zen 4 Dragon Range, and may very well work with the upcoming Zen 4 Phoenix Apu's (which launch in two weeks).
Actually just got a Dragon range 7940hs in hand, testing it right now.
@ETA PRIME Is there any sort if script to make it do this when it's plugged in? And automatically switch to stock if it's in portable mode?
@@ETAPRIME Oh wow, that is incredible news! Yeh i heard that reviewers were getting samples in hand and it launches on the 30th of April, so looking forward to your coming reviews! Please Please Please look into Undervolting, its benefits are enormous (higher performance, higher sustained clocks, lower power consumption, better temps, lower fan noise). Even if something like AATU or Uxtu doesn't work for it yet since its so new (unreleased infact, lol), in the future coming months it may be supported. Some things may also have Bios undervolting enabled (sorta like how one could unlock the hidden bios on Steam Deck to Undervolt it).
Not to "glaze" too much, but you are my favorite handheld gaming reviewer, only thing I wish you covered a bit more was tuning, and nothing is as important as Undervolting if it's allowed on a device (such as on Intel Hx laptops on 12th/13th gen, but not for the H processors).
Keep up the good work champ!
@@pennywisethedancingclown7139 Good question. As a related aside, one would want an Undervolt active even if in portable mode (maybe especially so), since it will actually help INCREASE the battery life due to the increased power efficiency from the undervolt (assuming no overclock. Albeit an Undervolt and an Overclock is best to combine all the benefits in one). So for example one would be able to hit a constant 30fps at lower wattage with an undervolt. Lets say a game required 10w stock to hit constant 30fps, with an undervolt it might be 9w to hit the same performance. So the temps will be a bit better due to less power output/voltage, and the battery will last a bit longer. Lets say one was using stock 15w tdp, with an undervolt one would be able to reach higher clocks on the cpu/gpu and still fit into the 15w limitation, thus gaining extra performance while consuming the same amount of power.
UXTU
I tried 20w 4k/2k overclock with 30/30/30 on the undervolt and because I’m on Windows I had to do some workarounds to actually get the system to clock up that high, but was consistently overheating and crashing. I decided on keeping the 20w and knocked the undervolt down to 30/20/20 for stability and set the cpu back to 3500 and left the GPU at 2k and had much better stability. Temps still can get to the mid 80s when pushing but I’m happy with the better stability with my tweaked settings
UPDATE: it wasn’t overheating but whenever I set my deck to a wattage past 15w the system was shutting itself down on its own. This was on battery however so might be different when plugged in. However I am able to keep a stable overclock at 15w setting and still my total power can go up to 28-30w total. Not sure why but it does
You have to try this with the oled model!!! I’m very interested!
A ram overlock with an undervolt and cpu/gpu overlock gives you way more.
How do you overclock the RAM?
Smokeless umaf. Recommended to only try if your deck has micron ram, not Samsung.
@@DeathMetalGhosthunter for sure, mine luckily has micron.
@@niceone6785 I tried with micron, and it didn't seem to like it. Bootlooped. Probably something I missed. I'll probably try again once it's been tested more.
This video shows how optimized this SoC already is. 500MHz is not giving it the expected boost so, with advanced settings, is much better to go for an undervolt on the CPU and overclock on the GPU.
100 percent
@@Imblitzyboi lmao I was going to say EXACTLY THIS
It's almost like Valve really knows what they're doing, and if there were any advantages to modifying voltages and frequencies, it would already be a part of the microcode.
This video shows just that 25W TDP is not enought to get the CPU and GPU up to the clocks it could reach. I bet a unlocked TDP limit with a very good cooler, could push the Steam Deck even further for tests.
The biggest difference with APUs is usually overclocking the RAM. Is this possible? because if so you should definitely do a video on that.
you can enable 6400 mt/s easily
@@megapro1725 yeah i did it for a while, but i'm on preview branch, they locked it and i haven't checked if there has been another way to unlock it yet. the performance difference was very noticeable.
👀 interesting. Even if Ayaneo and ROG are making their own handhelds. I prefer the steam deck experience.
I just love when you pouch the vase when it's testing time 🤣🤳
I read words overclocking & immediately ime clicking. Many thanks for this 🙏 😁
id like to see elden ring performance with this overclock. That game has always had some inconsistent framerates for me out in the open world. I cant seem to lock it at a solid 40fps no matter what i do.
Same
Actually it's because it's really a tablet screen and portrait mode is it's natural state. 3:11
I may be wrong, but I think such an aggressive overclock and TDP bump should be more heavily qualified than it is in the video. CryoByte33 better errs on the side of recommending more conservative pursuits in his tutorial video, and also notes that there is a risk of “bricking” your Deck when you go too far. This video seems a bit cavalier about it, especially going for 4 GHz/2GHz and throwing caution to the wind on the TDP. I have safely overclocked and undervolted my Deck, but more modestly (+300MHz on both GPU and CPU, upping TDP to 18 watts, while only undervolting 20/20/20). I think the messaging around this sort of overclocking should be less that it is “game changing” and more that when done right it can be a nice way to round off some rougher edges in certain titles. Though according to Reddit, forthcoming BIOS updates from Valve will lock down this functionality, and perhaps for the better. If anyone is itching to push to their device the extremes but don’t have any experience in this realm, I hope they see this video more as evidence of the diminished return on risk rather than an inspiration to try this at home. Otherwise, I see a trend of “bricked” devices shortly on the horizon.
Agreed. Most decks can't reach those clocks and 23w tsp is ludicrous, the vrms I'd imagine are screaming and my deck with a PTM7950 repaste can only handle 18w before it starts hitting 95c in the most demanding games. It takes upwards of thirty minutes though. He is clearly turning the overclock up then not playing for long and making the video.
There needs to be large disclaimers on content like this always to discourage the average user from thinking its all sunshine and rainbows.
@@omotosake well certainly don’t just take me word for it-but be wary of any upcoming updates. Let the community test things and see before you rush into anything!
@@Begohan1234 What games? because i can force freaking 30W to the CPU and temps don't go over 80 in games like Control but obviously always you do overclocking you need to watch the temps and mod the cooling system like Linus did and i just glued a big aluminum heatsink (DREMEL WAS NECESSARY TO FIT THAT LOL) with a Noctua 40mm fan to the shield on top of the motherboard and replaced all the pads with copper shims so now it can handle A LOT more power.
@@riphunter5100 mine is mostly stock so
I bet we see some custom cooling solutions hit the market for those into modding.
Most people that are in to modding already have a custom cooling solution, lol.
When I try to check device manager all I get is driver health and network device list :c
That will result in many bricked Decks given you can't reset settings like with a regular CMOS based board. You should have included that people need to make a full binary dump of their BIOS prior to overclocking or changing voltages. Using a CH341A for direct flash is the ONLY way to reset a bricked Deck BIOS.
Your video actually might lead to Valve blocking access to the Enhanced BIOS as lots of people will brick their Deck and then RMA.
You fail to give a proper warning and make seem the whole process like just everyone can do it easily which is very misleading to say the least.
Yep, it’s not like overclocking a pc where it just reboots after a failed OC. This requires a separate piece of hardware to bring back to life.
Why would valve block it? Wouldnt it be in valve's favour to leave it open for more idiots to screw themselves over and have to buy more stuff?
@@megajatt123 Why they would block it? To avoid the cost for lots of RMA due to bricked Decks.
Facts
@Aristoteles really? U think they dont have some sort of jtag connector on the board that can tell them that it's been tampered with? Given the ease of doing this mod, this would be the 1st things they could check.
I change the ppt settings in my unlocked bios to 17w, save, exit. When I return to bios the ppt has returned to 15w.
It would be nice to have this to sustain a smooth 40 fps with nice graphics and not taxing the battery too hard.
The new steamdeck bios that's coming out with 3.5 doesn't allow you to use umaf.
Be careful what you change with umaf because you can easily brick the steamdeck
That’s terrible. I thought Valve didn’t want to limit how people use the hardware.
they've already found a workaround for 3.5 if I remember correctly
@@piercewiederecht5135 Maybe they care more about not having to deal with people bricking their decks.
@@glazedbelmont nice. Still, it’s somewhat out of character for Valve to make a new BIOS to disallow UMAF.
@@hariskhan01 there’s nothing to deal with. If you brick your Deck with UMAF you’re completely outside warranty coverage anyways.
This is damn good to see,but the damn battery gonna suxks hard ofc.
This is why i would have loved a larger quieter fan, quiet and slightly more efficient when mobile due to less energy going to sound, but then dock it, and bump up to 2.2Ghz on the GPU to drive external displays
The Aya neo 2 can just barely do 1080 30. No way just overlooking the deck would do that even with better cooling
I'm surprised at the temps you're getting. I had 19w with 2000 on GPU, but CPU wouldn't do more than 3600 without being 85-96c o.0. Will try a repaste :P
I immediately replicated the same OC you're running. I almost exclusively play this wired from room to room and in the off-chance I take this out and about.. it's in small spurts of a few minutes here and there. Not concerned about battery life.
There's actually a bug in the cpu part where the threads are not fed enough memory bandwidth, the upcoming kernel update will be fixing this so the cpu should be more faster. You should get almost double or 80% more performance from the cpu since this is not an issue on windows.
Do you have a source?
source pls
"There used to be a hardcoded behavior in the Linux kernel on the AMD side, where if a core goes to sleep, it invalidates its cache, because by the time it wakes up the cache might not be valid," said Griffais. "It turns out that when you have two threads on the same core, and one thread is still working on something, and the second SMT thread goes to sleep, it throws away its cache using the same logic. So the thread that's running suddenly loses its L3 cache. In terms of CPU, that's really bad. It has to kind of refetch everything from memory-lots of latency, basically a 'bubble' in computing. And your frametime goes to shit. So that's what was happening."
Only applies to very few applications and games. Witcher 3 or any other modern game won't benefit or get very small gains. 80% gains won't happen as with modern software, no thread goes to sleep on Deck.
@@Ford.Prefect FPS gain will only show with cpu bound games, it won't give the gpu a performance increase unless the drivers has been further optimized. i mean ~80% increase in multiheaded performance in geekbench because windows doesn't suffer from this problem.
@@aviatedviewssound4798 emulation sees the biggest gain with this fix
cyberpunk didnt see much difference because the default steam deck graphics profile is heavily GPU bottlenecked but, insane results for a handheld
Damn I love this channel! Amazing ETA!!!
Update for Steam Deck OLED please 🙏
Cool to see things like this, but I would never use it, without being able to change the default cooler, the thermals can go crazy and really shorten the lifespan of the Steam Deck
How does it shorten the life of the steam deck? It shuts down far before the 110tjm…
@@mrsittingmongoose using the device with thermals close to the threshold is not good either
@@TheWendellpaulo that was my point, you can’t get close.
@@mrsittingmongoose how's that? He was reaching 90 degrees already
@@TheWendellpaulo because it shuts down at 100, the max rated temp is 110. So the system shuts down before you get close to the max rated spec.
Also, the way the steam deck can profile is set by default is to hit and stay at a higher temp instead of cooling well. So it’s essentially targeting 80-90c. You can change the fan profile and it will produce lower temps.
Seriously how is he running 35watts without over heating???? I can’t get past 20 TDP with a negative 50-50-50 under volt and fantastic at 7000 rpm without the deck shutting off what am i missing??
I would be more curious to see if overclock would negate the load of a resolution bump from 720p to 1080p, that would be a nice option when docking to a monitor or TV.
It depends on the game and how far your steam deck will go but if you have the clocks dialed in a per game basis id say it could help alot around a 3 to 15 percent performance improvement based on game optimisation and what it uses the most if your using most emulators id go for a cpuoverclock and for games like cyberpunk and for a game like red dead turn the gpu clock up and so awnser is its complicated and remember to undervolt
I did exactly what you did and my actual numbers in steam overlay are still maxing out at stock
Does this improve emulation performance for emulators?
Most processor overclocks will benefit emulation across the board. Maybe +2-5 frames in this case, in most emulators. In regards to switch emu, it could mean the difference between frame locked and frame underserved. Some titles are that close to perfect on the Steam Deck. RAM overclocks benefit the GPU side of things for the most part, and will offer less benefit to emulation.
I'd love to see if you could benchmark my Cyberpunk 2077 Golden 40 Preset with those clock speeds!
Would be interesting if that would bump this neat headroom I universally take into account into 60's region.
This should suit your needs much more, as this preset should look much better than what you've shown.
Can you do a review on the 32gb ram upgrade? I'm interested in it because I have to tear mine down to fix the r1 button and want to be sure its worth the hassle. I think it would be a very cool project
I must disagree with you. Jumping from 15.68 fps min to 24.95 fps min is HUGE. Even if its a fraction of sec in this fps...
Hello there , for those who did tdp gpu cpu overclock ,were you able to have 50-60 fps on the crew motorfest (even on 720p) please ?
with this bios and some work on thermal paste and better cooling seems to be a decent upgrade, for free.
When you realize you're power limited you start undervolting- you'll get more performance out of the hardware that way.
Really wanted to see performance in Forza 5. I’m doing great in other games but didn’t wanna wait an hour+ to download it just for same results
after watching cryobyte's video on this subject I came to the conclusion that it's not worth it but if I can get those frames on horizon zero dawn then I will definitely give it a try. The game doesn't play great for me even if i have the fps locked at 30
Hey Mr. prime doesn't have anything to do with this but I wanted to hope you see this. Ok I did your 150 i7 build and needed a SATA 8 pin for my rtx960 I went and got a double end to 8pin because I seen you use it so I got one what I was wondering is the good for the stock power supply I did get a 500 watt for a i5 I got but did work right and I messed it up rewiring so I scared to install it I wanted to know if this is good for what I'm doing. Thanks again Mr prime for years of learning.
Steam just needs to release a revised steam deck with an improved CPU
Great video. Have you done any good testing with Ps3 emulation? Was wondering if this might give me the power to run games line gow 3 and ascension.
Please test the overclock with the last of us
You should try overclocking the memory. 6400mhz makes a huge difference
DRAM or VRAM?
@@nexxusty The deck has 16GB of LPDDR5 clocked at 2750mhz/5500MT/s which is shared between the GPU and the entire system. It's the same pool of memory. With smokeless umaf, you can push the clock speed to 3200mhz/6400MT/s
@@keeganbowers4949 so what exactly am i turning up im new but have 2 decks
@@keeganbowers4949 witch clock speen the gpu or cpu or ram or vram idk
@@keeganbowers4949 Oh yeah, its an iGPU. Duh. Lol.
Also I remember Valve specifically choosing the best LPDDR5 RAM they could at the time just because of bandwidth issues if they hadn't.
Really interested in buying a Steam Deck now that you can OC It. Absolutely clocking the LPDDR5 to 6400mhz would make the most difference as the Deck is still very bandwidth limited.
Appreciate you setting me straight. Lol. I'm good now.
i'm too scared of hurting it but on my oled i really wanna try this and enable it when docked!
You should add Dead space to your tests
Mine can hit 4ghz/2ghz as well however sweet spot is 3.9/1900mhz as mentioned and cpu undervolted -85, GPU -30, SOC -30, great battery life and 78C under load max, the 4ghz/2ghz is very power hungry and makes GPU dip a lot more
I'm getting 90+ degrees on 19w tdp, this video is a little misleading. I mean you can always overclock to 5ghz but will it be able to sustain those clocks..? No.
This video shows the highest CPU clock of around 3600-3700mhz and it's not even sustained.
Van Gogh series of Apu generally need 25w to sustain 3800mhz. That should tell you all you need to know in regards to 4ghz overclock, not usable/viable...
My current settings without any thermal paste / extra cooling solutions.
Undervolt CPU SOC GPU at minus 31/30/34
CPU 3600mhz
GPU 1800mhz
17w tdp
Getting between 80-85degrees C after many hours of demanding AAA play. Both GPU and CPU can maintain 3600 and 1800 MHz all the time 100%
With thermal replacement and jsaux backplate I think it's easy to bump tdp to 18-19w and a little higher on the GPU clocks.
agree, deck is crap
I don't have the option to access AMD CBS. I have two entries for device manager, but the only thing under them are driver health checks, no settings. Did I miss a step?
it seems to me that overclocking the RAM to 6400 will give a more significant boost, but this does not work stably for everyone
How do I do that? What bios settings do I have to go into?
@@sedalespencer69 you can find video on youtube, just write "steam deck 6400mhz", but you can chose only 5500 and 6400, because other frequencys brick your deck .-.
question is,,,,is there a diffirence in performance between windows11 and steam OS???
I was right now on the way to do undervolt and gpu overclock, went to tut by CryoByte33 but checked your new Video. What are the odds Eta? :)
My Steamdeck crashes on windows very often because it gets to hot and this is without overclocking. Therefore I don't think its a good way to overclock this thing
is this going to raise the tempeture?
I didn't know the steam deck's CPU was that weak, tbh ARM is the future of these handhelds, an 8 gen 2 would beat this in CPU and GPU performance, while consuming less power. Microsoft needs to make windows on ARM good
Buy an ARM based handheld then
8 gen 2 would CLAP this apu. This apu is just a higher clock versiom of exynos 2200 if i know correct. Imagine a ultrabook with 8gen2 dream come true 😩
@@theblitz1687 The snapdragon 8cx gen 4 is coming
@@theblitz1687 It doesn't run Steam, GOG, Epic, Origin games.
Yes, it would be a nice SoC for an ARM based laptop or mini pc. I'm not sure why you bring this up in comments about a video of a x86-64 handheld.
Also comparing a Zen 2 based SoC to a current gen ARM SoC doesn't make any sense.
@@Ford.Prefect as i said this x86 apu (its gpu at least) is like a higher clock/ more shader version of exynos 2200. Now imagine SD using a higher core/clock version of adreno 740 in 8gen2. It would be like 1.5x-2x more efficient
@ETA, what are the CPU and GPU frequencies you get when running the Steam Deck on stock when running CP2077? I do not own a Steam Deck so I don;t know the stock behavior of this chip. How much is it throttling btw, cause seeing it not reach 35W combined yet have very high temps on the package it seems like it's practical max oc is 25W due to the temps.
Yea id say so without additional cooling and they optimised the peformance curve quite heavily for low wattage so you wouldnt want to go higher anyway you would only get 3 to 10 percent more for twenty more watts even while docked with solid cooling while shorting the chips life significantly
The percentage is so different becuase of game optimisation btw
Wonder how infamous would run with this overclock? Have you ever tried playing it?
Whoa.. that's pretty pretty neat.
Has the thumbnail to this video changed 3 times?
I've had a deck since q1 and I still can't figure out how to use FSR and I've never seen FSR 2 anywhere in my quick access menu. Can anyone please help me figure out what's the deal with SFR how to use it and how do I get FSR2??
O.C. is always AWESOME....
Will doing this make your steam deck really hot like an oven on some high end games?
Yea
I am curious as to why everyone seems to want to overclock everything. Doesn't it increase the wear on the device over time?
It can, if the best management doesn't keep things in check, but yes it does degrade faster. I might never do it, but I love that we can now.
haha processor goes brrr
Why do you care? Let me overclock my shit!
I have a steamdeck and I don't see why you would want to overclock it. Anyway being a portable device I think the wear and tear will break it soon before the incresead temperatures and/or voltage will.
Underclock with a proper undervolt typically won't cause noticeable wear on components. Reason being the undervolt will lessen the power draw and help to mitigate increased temps of an over clock.
That really just boils down to chip lottery though and there's a chance you can't undervolt without causing system instability.
Playing cyberpunk with proton GE 7.55 I get 2950 frames in the bench and better lows and average fps (same steam deck settings, plain 720p, no fsr or other upscaling) -cryoutilities enabled"
So no need for overclocking for me atm ;)
Honestly in my experience, FSR doesn’t work very well in some games, especially Cyberpunk and Spider-Man, I can’t tolerate the pixelated background it just hurts my eyes lol
Good work
Yeah, I think if I was going to fiddle with this I would just undervolt for better thermals and battery life.
I don't really play anything on the Deck that's too demanding.
When is the steam deck 2 going to come out?
Those living in Australia are asking the same for v1.
Hey! When I go to device manager it only showers me driver health! I have no overclocking options
u have oled u cant overclock
Nah it's a standard LCD Steam Deck that this is having issues with@@RealParadoxed
This is due to newer bios updates coming from Valve breaking smokeless
someone needs to make a new tool for overclocking the steam deck@@slik_
Overclocking portable systems is like when a dog will spend 45 minutes begging for a piece of cheese, and then when you give it to the dog, they inhale the slice in 1/10th of a second. All that work, so you can slurp down that already tiny battery in even less time.
Portable systems are not performance restricted because the manufacturer hates you, it's so the battery doesn't last 10 minutes.
That's not possible, even if the device put out 40(much more needed to equal 10 minutes) watts of power consumption it would only be an hour of battery life, the real issue is heating and possible throttling because of heat, but that's really it other than silicon lottery and stability
would this apply with a win10 installation? i dualbooted steamos and win10 in the internal ssd and was wondering if this would work for both (lcd)
And if we just raise the PDT, what does it bring? More stability and higher clock ?
Thanks do you see différence if you tory uncharted one? On rpcs3 . Vram could upgrade more than 4 Go? Best regards
Did you try that?
If you brick deck bios u can use ch341a and easily restore bios
curious about how steamdeck preformance on windows after overclocking
@ETAPRIME Hi ETA, do you think this will make Rogue Squadron 2 (Gamecube) a playable experience - and if so could I set it just for that game?
it seems memory oc plis under volt is the way to d go on the steam deck 😊
Can you do a tutorial for steam deck oled
Smu common options is not there for my hp laptop is there a way to fix that?
Please try playing the last of us part 1 , fsr quality on the steam deck with the overclocked chip .
Sorry but this video contains lots of misinformation.
For starters in order for the Deck to actually gain any meaningful performance overclocking you need to unlock the PBO current limits because the Jupiter SoC is both power and current constrained and then upgrade the cooling system because the single super slim heatpipe the Deck has already struggles to dissipate 15W of constant load let alone twice as much and last but not least is better to use Windows or other Linux distro because i think that Valve has some hardcoded limits set on SteamOs at the kernel level because i was never been able to force the SoC to use 30W no mater what and in Windows the 30W power limit is hit without problems.
For doing all this i used UMAF in bios and RyzenAdj in Windows and obviously all this overclocking with all current and power limits restrictions lifted needs to be done with the Deck plugged in and not on battery as there is high risk of burning the PMIC charging IC otherwise.
You didn't show us the copy and extraction of the files into the SD card. I don't know if I just extract the folder to the SD card, or if I have to extract the folder and then open the folder and take all of the files and then place the files into the main SD card and then delete the original folder. You gave absolutely no details with that
Can we force the GPU frequency at 2000 in the bios as well ?, I can't find an application that can set it to 2000 in windows
What is the custom preset for horizon zero. Dawn is there a place we can see it ?
you overclock while i'm trying to figure out how to make fan to spin. if i use arch on deck sometimes the fan seems to not spin. i even got the deck to shutdown a few times.
Maybe it will now be able to run Stolen for the PS2.
Does steam deck has battery bypass charging ?
Nope
is this all without using the 4GB Vram by CryoByte33 or are you using that at the same time? also would you be testing windows with overclocking?