This has to be one of the dumbest and manufactured controversies in a good minute. The halftime show was never really about the town where the Super Bowl was held. The Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg halftime show was the closest one to being a west coast-ish type of show but it was more of a hip hop/Dr Dre showcase. Kendrick will probably bring out Lil Wayne out but he’s not obligated to. The whole thing is dumb outrage. Let Kendrick enjoy his victory lap
Kendrick deserved it, end of. This entire discourse is purely emotional, there’s zero logic to it. Wayne sounded entitled af in that IG live, didn’t even at least congratulate Kendrick after expressing his own personal disappointment. What has Wayne done recently to position himself to do a half time show? Poor live performances, poor reputation behind the scenes, no hit songs recently, or cultivated momentum, no press run, no album, nothing. But him being from NO means he should headline, when that’s never been the case for the SB. What is the potential set list, that fits that audience and advertisers? Nicki is crying cus that’s her only chance to get on that stage. This is complete manufactured outrage
100% Facts! Let's not forget about how the man refused to speak up for ANY of THE CULTURES' movements. He's about that MAGA life...And, unfortunately NOT like us. Wayne is still one of the greatest lyricist of our time...But, not relevant enough to be chosen for such a performance.
What did Shakira and jlo do to deserve it in 2020😭😭 name 5 jlo songs rn😭😭😭 People would be as outraged if sabrina carpenter got it over wayne too its not about kendrick You don't have to go on a wayne hate rant to defend your boy
@@BartholomewConstantine Sabrina Carpenter and Shakira can actually perform, regardless if you like their music. They have the conditioning to put on a show, Wayne doesn’t. Wayne is one of the greatest artists of all time, but he’s not a great performer and he’s even worse now.
@@IamFirtyDucker this wayne can't perform thing is shameless bc you're nit picking low stakes performances that he shows up high to and act like that is representative also these artists regularly have massive productions and dancers with them to boost performance they aren't beyonce. Wayne doesn't do they usually so you're saying he's a bad performer. Acting like he wouldn't also have a massive production for the SUPERBOWL Kendrick mostly raps in one spot and walks a few paces here and there while his background performers make the set look vibrant as they should then kendrick dances around at the hook. I'm not taking anything away from kendrick but comparing his well thought out grammys performance to a random lil wayne performance where it's just him and a mic is shameless. And don't act like wrestlemania is high states noone even knew they had a half time performance til last week
@@BartholomewConstantine like any position you want reputation and having a portfolio to go with it will get you the job, entitlement is at an all time high. Wayne if he really wanted the Super Bowl should’ve built a public portfolio of great performances to show that he can. Usher did when he was in Vegas. You sound ridiculous. Kendrick has The Big Steppers tour, his Amazon show, the pop out and his last superbowl performance. If you think that is comparable to Wayne you’re completely delusional and I have nothing more to say
They weren’t supporting Wayne when he sent potential subliminals towards Drake in his recent guest verses. Now everybody want to be on the boat. Juvi made himself look dumb by claiming to be better than Jay and Nas just because he sold more. Nicki been spiraling for a minute, is married to a pedo and defend another sex offender in her brother. Birdman done fucked over most, if not every artist to come up under him at some point, including Wayne. Drake and Ovo in shambles rn. Everyone wants to channel out their anger over Drake losing the beef now since they knew they couldn’t when it was at its hottest point. Selective outrage at its finest
The only thing Kendrick needs to do is put on a show worthy of the occasion. I don't need to see Wayne on the stage. Kendrick needs to own the stage, like he always does, and honour Wayne and the other greats that way.
The way Nicki, Master P, Birdman and Juvenile was talking, you would think they were the ones who got Wayne out of debt... I was shocked by Birdman especially, because he screwed Wayne and left him for nothing after Wayne left Cash Money... Jay Z was the only one who was truly there for Wayne but some people used this narrative as a buffer to spite Kendrick and Wayne jumped in because it was a wave that he could utilize to get back into the conversation.
The fact that they think The Carter 2 or 3 can Touch Good Kid or Damn is insane to me.Kendrick is a higher tier of artist and songwriter than wayne ever was.Just facts
When Kendrick Lamar was announced to headline it, I kept hearing multiple different ideas on what a set-list of Kendrick songs, that's appropriate for the Super Bowl Halftime show, would look like. From the outrage crowd, I've yet to hear anyone bring up a single convincing idea, of what a list for Lil Wayne would look be.
This isnt about Wayne. This is about people using the outrage for Wayne as a means to complain about Kendrick. Lil Wayne is a cool artist but he has never penned a single track as impactful or as well thight out as Kendrick.
Facts. I love Wayne but he really don't be rapping about much. His best songs are when he actually sticks to a concept or has some substance to the lyrics.
@@R.I.P.Germain you don’t need to simplify it, there is always a group of individuals who end up making decisions, and they had rationale behind why they did it. It will be exposed in time, and when it does it will help contextualize some of the moves.
Exactly. But you have people who say well I believe Ellie Wilson over Bloomberg news. I wouldn’t be surprised if the NFL action reached out to Bloomberg news to squash that nonsense. They were probably like the audacity of this man to say that he turned us down four times. And that narcissist drake would’ve already raoped about it - like in person first person shooter “ I’m bigger than a Super Bowl. That’s why I turned it down”. .
Idk what’s more annoying. People calling Wayne washed and other terrible things, or people saying “WHAT’S KENDRICK GONNA DO? PERFORM NOT LIKE US 15 TIMES??” Both takes are ignorant and lame. Not a shot to Wayne’s relevancy, but more you the audience. He’s on tour right now and it’s flopping. You’d think these fans saying terrible things about Kendrick would be at Wayne’s shows. But they aren’t. They don’t even support Wayne. I swear this is only a discourse online. And why is birdman talking? He held Wayne hostage on cash money for 5 years and was robbing him blind, while Nicki just sat it back and watched.
Thank you of the first part. Rod's take was weird af. Like everybody that has performed recently besides Weekend was performing their old songs. None of them had recent hits besides Weekend. So that argument is false. I love Kendrick like the next person but that doesn't mean we have to slurp him up and hate others to prop him up. And I'm noticing it's a certain demographic that's doing it too
Them YM and New Orleans artist thought they were gonna get an opportunity to eat off Wayne and revive their dead careers. lol That's why they're all mad. They sound entitled and i don't like the fact they are taking away from KDots moment.
They are not only making themselves look bad, but also Wayne. More people are realizing why Wayne shouldn't have been picked, than are saying that he should've. He looked too tired to even talk on IG Live!
Really nice discussion. To answer Feefo's question, I think most of the drama is manufactured and fuelled by people with personal axes to grind (Cam, Nicki), opportunism and self-interest (Nicki, Master P), people who want to re-litigate the beef (Ak, Mal, and other bitter and deranged Drake fans), a dash of lingering the East coast/West Coast nonsense (Cam and Mase), loyal but delusional Wayne fans who think that Wayne was a shoo in by virtue of being from Louisiana, and a misinformed and ignorant general public who hasn't a clue about the behind-the-scenes selection process. It's been ridiculous, ugly, and really unfair to Kendrick
20:53 nearly every other headliner has done that what is he talking about? Madonna brought out Nikki and MIA. Katy brought out Missy. Bey brought out Destinys Child…
I just want February to come and all this to be over. It's a dumb conversation full of dumb people. Crying and carrying on for nothing Congratulations to Kendrick🎉Have an amazing show!!!
Wayne full of sht 😂 did New Orleans cry when he ran out the tunnel, wit the Green Bay Packers?! not to mention, he OPENLY claims Miami over NOLA lmaooo plus he a Trump supporter. add all that up & you’ll understand …HE WILL NEVER HEADLINE A SUPERBOWL IN NEW ORLEANS 😂💯
Really is a meaningless conversation. they made the right choice. there are various reasons why some folks are complaining. none of them valid or logical and all emotional.
My thing has been Wayne is one of, if not Kendrick's fav artists so I think he'd fasho bring him out for at least 1 song just for the culture. But with Wayne's IG live video and everything idk if Dot would still want to bring him out. Nonetheless Kendrick will give us a helluva show and I'm excited for his next album.
The crying may also make him NOT WANT TO put a tribute show together. They keep doubling down. They are not looking at the big picture. Some of them (not all) could potentially be blocking their own future opportunity to headline the Super Bowl halftime show.
Wayne admitted he can't remember his own lyrics to some of his most iconic songs. He sat in a pity party video holding a b!unt. 2024bit cost $7million for a 30 second Super Bowl TV ad. Who's going to pay for a YMCMB show... with some artist (and their husband) having weird cases 🤔🤔
It doesn't matter if Wayne was "on the list" or not. He is NOT Super Bowl ready!! I was the NFL, I would NEVER have Wayne as a headliner after this. Probably wouldn't even have hip-hop as a headliner anymore.
Yeah, the superbowl does have regional nods, but they aren't concerned with making the headliner regional. Like Big Boi played with Maroon 5 in Atlanta, Justin Timberlake did a Prince song in Minneapolis but they don't have a history of making the headliner regional.
What shocks me is that Wayne actually thought it was his going off of the live. Like he genuinely thought he was gonna get the gig. Why would he even think that? Even if it wasn’t Kendrick, they had 5 other artists lined up before Wayne. It’s only because it’s Kendrick
This is Kendricks time! No it's, ands, or buts about it! However, I think people failed to remember how much of a Wayne fan Kendrick is, so I predict that Wayne will be there as well
It’s definitely Kendrick’s time.Even if Dot was not selected Wayne still would not have been selected,hell I don’t think his name was on the list. Dot owes nobody nothing especially a washed up dope head 😅
@@Newportnews98no ceilings is a classic. And Carter 4 is good. They ain't better than any Kendrick project. But you can perform hits forever so I don't really see the point of the original statement
@@anthonycelestin3559 Yes Right up there with Abbey Road and Dark Twisted fantasy?You must not listen to other genres besides rap and r and b if you think Carter 3 era mixtapes are the apex of creativity
The thing is that they think they are dealing with the streets and the NFL ain't the streets and don't give damn Kendrick Lamar said that secretly these rappers don't like California
Kendrick is having the biggest moment in hip hop currently. I can't name two mainstream hits aside from Drink and Not like us. Wayne has the catalog and connections to carry a half time show.
Do people not understand what the Super Bowl is? Wayne would be terrible for views. The Black community would tune in, but the overall ratings would tank. The Super Bowl is supposed to be a family friendly event and even Kendrick will have to heavily censor his music.
as a kendrick stan, it should've gone to wayne. Kendrick has already performed at the super bowl and already his huge moment this year. They're both deserving of the recognition, but kendrick's been getting an abundance of it in comparison to wayne.
If you're K. Dot, you can open up the show with Mona Lisa. Bring out Wayne and perform that and the rest up the show to K. Dot but bringing out Wayne for a joint like Mona Lisa or something else would be dope.
@@DoctorKesha Nah I gotchu I’m just letting you know as someone who’s followed Stephen for a while being an NBA fan. You gotta take what he says with a grain of salt because he’s known for not being reliable when it comes to those kinda reports. Why would Jay-Z tell him and then allow him to announce it knowing that only fuels the hate being thrown towards him at the moment. It never adds up with Steph when it’s a “close friend” of his trust me lol
Rod saying “it’s not Wayne’s time” and “Wayne’s time is past” is crazy. It doesn’t matter that he has a recent hit out or not. It’s the caliber of artist. Nothing would stop Aerosmith from performing in a Super Bowl… EVER. So saying it’s too late for Wayne is a bad argument.
Wayne music has not aged well and Kendrick Penetrates different fan bases of non rap fan bases more because of his songwriting and creativity.”Lollipop” and “Ms.Officer” are corny now in hindsight
@@nategiddens9620 Yeah but that isn't the point. He's not saying its incomprehensible to pick Wayne to perform, bc youre right, he very well could have been picked no matter how distant his commercial prime is. The point is that Wayne's cultural profile is not nearly hot enough for people to be this upset that Kendrick was picked. He's just saying that the shock seems weird considering how Wayne is statistically a less profitable name right now.
I agree, legacy artists are chosen all the time so that was a bad argument. There's a million good reasons why Wayne wasn't picked but that's not one of them
@@fangal12okay just be honest if you were hosting a party or something like that would you actually want someone who said shit like "I'm a venereal disease" and "beat that pissy up like Emmett Till" has the music addition to your party?
The City of N.O. said that they found out when everyone else did. Jay-Z confirmed that he has the final say, by saying that the only reason that he didn't pick himself, was because it would've been "selfish".
When you guys said 'Wayne's time has passed' that he was best to perform maybe years prior when he was more relevant, is exactly why people are mad. It is more so the fact that he never has, because if not now, or then, then never? Is a crazy thought considering how he is the biggest artist out of NO and one of the most influential in the game. I do agree though that the outrage was ridiculous.
Y’all seem to ignore that rap is not the genre of music that the NFL core audience wants to hear. All of you know who those artists are doesn’t mean they do. The music isn’t even family friendly that y’all talking about. And I agree that people coming for Kendrick before he even creates his own vision. It’s very disappointing. The Super Bowl isn’t even paid and people behaving like it’s an award. If the outrage made sense the people being outraged should be able to list prior acts. That nobody remembers Rihanna was just last year or that Shakira and J Lo were performers says a lot. The outrage assumes that the stage belongs to a black performer or even that because Jay involved it has to be a rap act. At the end of the day that’s the problem, that so many feel entitled instead of grateful.
➡Shaun Harrison, Art Director of the Grammy’s quotes: "I've 'worked with' Lil Wayne before for Grammy performance and personal feelings that would be the biggest mistake ever putting him as the headliner for the biggest performance of the year The Super Bowl," Harrison wrote. "He showed up to zero rehearsals we didn't even think he would make the performance then last minute he was in the building and ran on stage for the performance and ran off back into oblivion lol. Never even got to meet him after week of rehearsals for a show. Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest rap performers ever and unapologetically black in his message and it's during black history month, it's going to be a spectacle!" In a follow-up post on his Instagram Story, Harrison further argued: "Not to mention Dr. Dre is the only to be from the state the Super Bowl is in... so the argument is moot, that's never been a prerequisite."
➡ My take. At the end of the day, the NFL is a top-tier business entity with hopes of going global. They are behind flag football being in future Olympics. why would they want anyone who looks like Post Malone or Lil Wayne representing their brand on an international broadcast? They both look drugged out and dirty. Skid row vibes. And that’s the truth. Did you see his wrestlemania performance? And what songs could he sing for 15 minutes where every other word doesn’t have to be bleeped out or edited? A consummate professional with showmanship, someone with attention to detail, a disciplined focus and a relatively family friendly discography was chosen.
Lil Wayne is the GOAT but come on! If you've seen Lil Wayne's performance at the WWE, then you'd obviously know why Kendrick was chosen. And Lil Wayne is said to very unprofessional behind the scenes. He's said to be late during rehearsals, he forgets his lyrics, he's been known to have an anger problem and lashes out at staff, he performs drunk and he is not the same performer he once was. He is legendary rapper but he is definitely not a great live performer unlike Kendrick. Just look at his performance during the SuperBowl Halftime show with Dr Dre. Or his performance at SNL or at the Grammys. Kendrick can and will definitely put on a better show than Lil Wayne.
I like how everyone just skipped over the biggest part of this whole conversation. Jay Z helped the NFL pull off the biggest Jedi mind trick. It got us to stop focusing on the blatant racism and misconduct to players of color. They had us spoon fed with artists for one half time show. Now the conversation is people of color arguing with each other about which black millionaire capitalist deserves to perform for a predominantly white artist. Isn’t that nuts? Nobody even talks about NFL racism that goes on to this day. And honestly I look at Kendrick differently. We cannot call out artists like Jay and Beyoncé for cosplaying but because we love Kendrick now he gets a pass.
Yes, Kendrick gets a pass. The man is changing the game, while performing at one of the worlds largest games. Let's not forget that Dot gave us the anthem to our current racial tensions, and police brutality, with "Alright". Regarding the players: Who is supposed to speak up for them, if they're still playing, and not speaking up for themselves? They are NOT voiceless.
@@titushill7031 dot specifically said he’s riding with Kap until the NFL changed. Has the league changed? No right. Kap still unemployed? Yeah right. So Jay Z was enough for artists to start jumping on stage for a predominantly white. Idc if 10 million people are watching. That benefits him and him alone. People are watching the Super Bowl to be entertained and it just amazes me that people who claim love the art of hip hop are so quit to sell it out FOR FREE. Just because they like the artist.
@@clflamez6861 I couldn't find the quote that you speak of. But regardless, Kendrick supporting Kaepernick's stance, and boycotting the NFL are two completely different things. I think that you are missing the bigger scheme of things. No halftime show is going to change the NFL...No matter who performs. If all those NFL players are still willing to play, while being "so mistreated", and without Kaepernick, then why should someone that's not in the NFL need to take a stronger stance? The players could quickly change things, if they stood/"kneeled" in solidarity in protest. Also, where do you get your SB viewership demographic data from, because I know that people of ALL races watch it, faithfully.
It's the point they showed up in New Orleans that many times to keep looking over Rappers like There is no artists there With Jay-Z knowing the talent from Wayne how can u look over him Kendrick had a time to do the Superbowl this is crazy to even talk about it
I did hear that one. I do like it. However, that doesn't change the facts about his professionalism, live performances, memory issues, and other "health issues." He is not the best candidate at this time. I am hopeful he somehow cleans himself up (I suspect one of the loud crybabies is a big piece of why he is in the condition he is in now). Maybe he can secure a performance if he cleans himself up and it helps his memory.
I respect Rod but that was some BS you said at the 7:00 mark. What you mean Lil Wayne time passed? If Wayne’s mark in legacy doesn’t matter, then what’s the point of a rapper putting out music in the first place? Based on this rhetoric, it seems like what Wayne did for his whole career meant nothing and that is crazy to say. What else does Wayne need to do to prove his legacy, it’s crazy to even talk about Lil Wayne legacy in the first place. Rod disrespecting Wayne saying “his time passed” is just verbal diarrhea that I can’t take serious. Y’all suppose to be authorities on the culture and y’all saying crap like that, it’s hard to take you serious when you say stuff like that. Wayne’s time will never be passed cause his legacy is cemented forever in hip hop. Put some respect on Lil Wayne’s name, be better than that, it’s beneath you Rod to say something like that
The outrage felt artificially instigated from jump, and that smells like a smear campaign by larger forces. Not necessarily by Drake, but more like the money behind him ‘cause you can’t allow Kendrick to perform “Not Like Us” and call their cash cow a PDF file in front of the largest television audience there is!!!
The longer this conversation went on online, the more obvious it became this has nothing to do with Wayne
Facts
This.
Cap , it’s Nola , has everything to do with Wayne
This has to be one of the dumbest and manufactured controversies in a good minute. The halftime show was never really about the town where the Super Bowl was held. The Dr Dre and Snoop Dogg halftime show was the closest one to being a west coast-ish type of show but it was more of a hip hop/Dr Dre showcase. Kendrick will probably bring out Lil Wayne out but he’s not obligated to. The whole thing is dumb outrage. Let Kendrick enjoy his victory lap
Kendrick deserved it, end of. This entire discourse is purely emotional, there’s zero logic to it. Wayne sounded entitled af in that IG live, didn’t even at least congratulate Kendrick after expressing his own personal disappointment. What has Wayne done recently to position himself to do a half time show? Poor live performances, poor reputation behind the scenes, no hit songs recently, or cultivated momentum, no press run, no album, nothing. But him being from NO means he should headline, when that’s never been the case for the SB. What is the potential set list, that fits that audience and advertisers? Nicki is crying cus that’s her only chance to get on that stage. This is complete manufactured outrage
100% Facts!
Let's not forget about how the man refused to speak up for ANY of THE CULTURES' movements. He's about that MAGA life...And, unfortunately NOT like us.
Wayne is still one of the greatest lyricist of our time...But, not relevant enough to be chosen for such a performance.
What did Shakira and jlo do to deserve it in 2020😭😭 name 5 jlo songs rn😭😭😭
People would be as outraged if sabrina carpenter got it over wayne too its not about kendrick
You don't have to go on a wayne hate rant to defend your boy
@@BartholomewConstantine Sabrina Carpenter and Shakira can actually perform, regardless if you like their music. They have the conditioning to put on a show, Wayne doesn’t. Wayne is one of the greatest artists of all time, but he’s not a great performer and he’s even worse now.
@@IamFirtyDucker this wayne can't perform thing is shameless bc you're nit picking low stakes performances that he shows up high to and act like that is representative
also these artists regularly have massive productions and dancers with them to boost performance they aren't beyonce. Wayne doesn't do they usually so you're saying he's a bad performer. Acting like he wouldn't also have a massive production for the SUPERBOWL
Kendrick mostly raps in one spot and walks a few paces here and there while his background performers make the set look vibrant as they should then kendrick dances around at the hook. I'm not taking anything away from kendrick but comparing his well thought out grammys performance to a random lil wayne performance where it's just him and a mic is shameless. And don't act like wrestlemania is high states noone even knew they had a half time performance til last week
@@BartholomewConstantine like any position you want reputation and having a portfolio to go with it will get you the job, entitlement is at an all time high. Wayne if he really wanted the Super Bowl should’ve built a public portfolio of great performances to show that he can. Usher did when he was in Vegas. You sound ridiculous. Kendrick has The Big Steppers tour, his Amazon show, the pop out and his last superbowl performance. If you think that is comparable to Wayne you’re completely delusional and I have nothing more to say
The people that are angry have pent up anger from Drake getting demolished. Now using Wayne's name to throw stones.
They weren’t supporting Wayne when he sent potential subliminals towards Drake in his recent guest verses. Now everybody want to be on the boat. Juvi made himself look dumb by claiming to be better than Jay and Nas just because he sold more. Nicki been spiraling for a minute, is married to a pedo and defend another sex offender in her brother. Birdman done fucked over most, if not every artist to come up under him at some point, including Wayne. Drake and Ovo in shambles rn. Everyone wants to channel out their anger over Drake losing the beef now since they knew they couldn’t when it was at its hottest point. Selective outrage at its finest
The only thing Kendrick needs to do is put on a show worthy of the occasion. I don't need to see Wayne on the stage. Kendrick needs to own the stage, like he always does, and honour Wayne and the other greats that way.
The way Nicki, Master P, Birdman and Juvenile was talking, you would think they were the ones who got Wayne out of debt... I was shocked by Birdman especially, because he screwed Wayne and left him for nothing after Wayne left Cash Money... Jay Z was the only one who was truly there for Wayne but some people used this narrative as a buffer to spite Kendrick and Wayne jumped in because it was a wave that he could utilize to get back into the conversation.
It's crazy how these dudes riding for Wayne now were hiding under every rock and cover when he actually needed help.
I grew up on Wayne but my generation overrates Wayne it’s getting ridiculous Kendrick is a better artist and a better performer who is hot rn
I love wayne but I saw him perform live not too long ago and it was rough. They made the right choice
Idk why but tht made me laugh😂😂🤣
The fact that they think The Carter 2 or 3 can Touch Good Kid or Damn is insane to me.Kendrick is a higher tier of artist and songwriter than wayne ever was.Just facts
@@Rationz36 Exactly the nostalgia will not let them accept it lol
@MrGhanaboy16 watch lil Wayne's wwe performance at wrestlemainya cause I laughed to
Kendrick Lamar : I'm what the culture feeling
Lil Wayne : racism what is that ? I don't care , and a Trump supporter
Superbowl made the right chose 💯💯
The funny part is Kendrick is a bigger Wayne fan than 99% of these people who are outraged. Weirdo behaviour
@@CarlClinto Very true!
Not really@@CarlClinto
If they didnt pick Kdot, they wouldnt pick Wayne anyway.
When Kendrick Lamar was announced to headline it, I kept hearing multiple different ideas on what a set-list of Kendrick songs, that's appropriate for the Super Bowl Halftime show, would look like. From the outrage crowd, I've yet to hear anyone bring up a single convincing idea, of what a list for Lil Wayne would look be.
I agree with Rod. Wayne probably could've come out and performed but people jumped out the window with the fake love masked as hate for Kendrick.
This isnt about Wayne. This is about people using the outrage for Wayne as a means to complain about Kendrick. Lil Wayne is a cool artist but he has never penned a single track as impactful or as well thight out as Kendrick.
Facts. I love Wayne but he really don't be rapping about much. His best songs are when he actually sticks to a concept or has some substance to the lyrics.
the last statement is bullshit
Beezy opened up Preaching.
As usual
Beezy was thpittin! 🤣
On god
Everything about this “outrage” feels incredibly manufactured
Because it is
Why do Kendrick have to share his moment 😭he doesn’t have show love to the city lol
Especially with that clueless and classless IG live where Wayne didn’t even have the decency to congratulate Kendrick
Ken looks tired and sick of talking bout this rap bs lmaoo
Nah if they are behaving like this now imagine trying to coordinate a window of time for them to perform with Kendrick. They'd never be satisfied.
Jay Z said I want to bring someone who represents our culture to the UPmost, not the CUPmost. Folks act like the last 15 years didn’t happen 😂
Surprised Wayne was so crushed.
I hope we learn the full story eventually.
There’s a meme that has Drake behind the camera filming Wayne with a chop, as if he was reading from a hostage letter!!!
@@R.I.P.Germain you don’t need to simplify it, there is always a group of individuals who end up making decisions, and they had rationale behind why they did it. It will be exposed in time, and when it does it will help contextualize some of the moves.
@@HeatleyBros maybe cuz Wayne is a kind of a junkie who has that arent recent
I love DEHH, always a minute too late lol but that's the culture we're in right now
The associate with the NFL made a statement confirming that the rumor wasn't true. Drake was never offered.
Exactly. But you have people who say well I believe Ellie Wilson over Bloomberg news. I wouldn’t be surprised if the NFL action reached out to Bloomberg news to squash that nonsense. They were probably like the audacity of this man to say that he turned us down four times. And that narcissist drake would’ve already raoped about it - like in person first person shooter “ I’m bigger than a Super Bowl. That’s why I turned it down”. .
@@BR-qq2gb Exactly
Idk what’s more annoying. People calling Wayne washed and other terrible things, or people saying “WHAT’S KENDRICK GONNA DO? PERFORM NOT LIKE US 15 TIMES??” Both takes are ignorant and lame. Not a shot to Wayne’s relevancy, but more you the audience. He’s on tour right now and it’s flopping. You’d think these fans saying terrible things about Kendrick would be at Wayne’s shows. But they aren’t. They don’t even support Wayne. I swear this is only a discourse online.
And why is birdman talking? He held Wayne hostage on cash money for 5 years and was robbing him blind, while Nicki just sat it back and watched.
That's because it's bought bots. That billionaire white boy are helping them get fake bots.
Birdman pushing up on the wrong J - He is pushing up on Jay Z but he ain't got nothing to say to J P(rince)
Thank you of the first part. Rod's take was weird af. Like everybody that has performed recently besides Weekend was performing their old songs. None of them had recent hits besides Weekend. So that argument is false.
I love Kendrick like the next person but that doesn't mean we have to slurp him up and hate others to prop him up. And I'm noticing it's a certain demographic that's doing it too
Them YM and New Orleans artist thought they were gonna get an opportunity to eat off Wayne and revive their dead careers. lol That's why they're all mad. They sound entitled and i don't like the fact they are taking away from KDots moment.
They are not only making themselves look bad, but also Wayne. More people are realizing why Wayne shouldn't have been picked, than are saying that he should've. He looked too tired to even talk on IG Live!
It was between the #1 pro black rapper or the washed up "racism doesn't exist" guy.
It’s like Kendrick just recently said in his latest track - why argue with clowns when the circus is well at work.
@@BR-qq2gb Right! Those upset would rather continue feeding our communities/children poison, than to "watch the party die".
5:25 it’s funny how Rod doesn’t remember what was Wayne’s last big hit, and then 10 seconds later he said he doesn’t understand all the “Uproar”.
NFL don't owe Wayne a Superbowl performance
Really nice discussion.
To answer Feefo's question, I think most of the drama is manufactured and fuelled by people with personal axes to grind (Cam, Nicki), opportunism and self-interest (Nicki, Master P), people who want to re-litigate the beef (Ak, Mal, and other bitter and deranged Drake fans), a dash of lingering the East coast/West Coast nonsense (Cam and Mase), loyal but delusional Wayne fans who think that Wayne was a shoo in by virtue of being from Louisiana, and a misinformed and ignorant general public who hasn't a clue about the behind-the-scenes selection process.
It's been ridiculous, ugly, and really unfair to Kendrick
Dot will still shine, tho! They're only making themselves look bad.
20:53 nearly every other headliner has done that what is he talking about? Madonna brought out Nikki and MIA. Katy brought out Missy. Bey brought out Destinys Child…
In ATL, Big Boy and Sleepy Brown came out
I just want February to come and all this to be over. It's a dumb conversation full of dumb people. Crying and carrying on for nothing
Congratulations to Kendrick🎉Have an amazing show!!!
his performance will be my favorite and top 4 all time
LIL WAYNE WAS TOO BUSY SKATEBOARDING Y'ALL HE NEED SOME MILK
Where was all of this outrage at when Wayne was in jail??? Smh people need to chill
Wayne full of sht 😂 did New Orleans cry when he ran out the tunnel, wit the Green Bay Packers?! not to mention, he OPENLY claims Miami over NOLA lmaooo plus he a Trump supporter. add all that up & you’ll understand …HE WILL NEVER HEADLINE A SUPERBOWL IN NEW ORLEANS 😂💯
Really is a meaningless conversation. they made the right choice. there are various reasons why some folks are complaining. none of them valid or logical and all emotional.
Ken has a great mic setup
My thing has been Wayne is one of, if not Kendrick's fav artists so I think he'd fasho bring him out for at least 1 song just for the culture. But with Wayne's IG live video and everything idk if Dot would still want to bring him out. Nonetheless Kendrick will give us a helluva show and I'm excited for his next album.
People in Louisiana are not “up in arms” about Wayne not doing the Super Bowl. We don’t care
The crying may also make him NOT WANT TO put a tribute show together. They keep doubling down. They are not looking at the big picture. Some of them (not all) could potentially be blocking their own future opportunity to headline the Super Bowl halftime show.
Wayne admitted he can't remember his own lyrics to some of his most iconic songs. He sat in a pity party video holding a b!unt. 2024bit cost $7million for a 30 second Super Bowl TV ad. Who's going to pay for a YMCMB show... with some artist (and their husband) having weird cases 🤔🤔
It doesn't matter if Wayne was "on the list" or not. He is NOT Super Bowl ready!!
I was the NFL, I would NEVER have Wayne as a headliner after this. Probably wouldn't even have hip-hop as a headliner anymore.
Wayne isn’t the live performer that Kendrick is
Yeah, the superbowl does have regional nods, but they aren't concerned with making the headliner regional.
Like Big Boi played with Maroon 5 in Atlanta, Justin Timberlake did a Prince song in Minneapolis but they don't have a history of making the headliner regional.
Lil Wayne don't even remember his own lyrics. Nobody wanna see him mumbling and high off lean.
Neither does Kendrick 😂
See his performance of Euphoria as an example
What shocks me is that Wayne actually thought it was his going off of the live. Like he genuinely thought he was gonna get the gig. Why would he even think that? Even if it wasn’t Kendrick, they had 5 other artists lined up before Wayne. It’s only because it’s Kendrick
aint nobody was saying wayne should perform in the superbowl when they were in NO in the last 7 years, this drake fan rhetoric 🤣🤣🤣
If Wayne comes out performing the motto with Kendrick the “You only live once “ line boutta hit hard asf
Internet is toxic. This outrage about Wayne being entitled to a SB halftime show because it’s NO is silly.
This is Kendricks time! No it's, ands, or buts about it! However, I think people failed to remember how much of a Wayne fan Kendrick is, so I predict that Wayne will be there as well
It’s definitely Kendrick’s time.Even if Dot was not selected Wayne still would not have been selected,hell I don’t think his name was on the list.
Dot owes nobody nothing especially a washed up dope head 😅
Wayne may have messed that opportunity up, by getting on IG, and not congratulating Kendrick. I wanted to see it happen too, until then.
What has Wayne put out in the last 15 years that had an an impact or the quality of Kendrick’s last 4 albums ???Please answer me that.
15 years ago was 2009 and that was no no ceilings and before Carter 4
@@Newportnews98no ceilings is a classic. And Carter 4 is good. They ain't better than any Kendrick project. But you can perform hits forever so I don't really see the point of the original statement
@@WaunB55the last 5 super bowl performed weren’t Hot or buzzing in their careers either
Carter 3 mixtape session is one of the greatest collection of creative music of all time
@@anthonycelestin3559 Yes Right up there with Abbey Road and Dark Twisted fantasy?You must not listen to other genres besides rap and r and b if you think Carter 3 era mixtapes are the apex of creativity
It make sense to have Kendrick on a business point of view and Black History Month!
outrage roots from wayne saying hes been wanting to do it the last two years. no further discussion needed
The thing is that they think they are dealing with the streets and the NFL ain't the streets and don't give damn Kendrick Lamar said that secretly these rappers don't like California
Kendrick is having the biggest moment in hip hop currently. I can't name two mainstream hits aside from Drink and Not like us. Wayne has the catalog and connections to carry a half time show.
It’s the right move from the NFL & Jay and No Wayne should have congratulated KDOT for being selected .
I appreciate Rod's comment on New Orleans themselves perhaps looking for something big for the city
Do people not understand what the Super Bowl is? Wayne would be terrible for views. The Black community would tune in, but the overall ratings would tank. The Super Bowl is supposed to be a family friendly event and even Kendrick will have to heavily censor his music.
Fakest controversy I’ve seen in hip hop in a long time. Was Wayne even considered? Where is this even coming from?
I wouldn’t be surprise if Wayne brought Frank Ocean at this point 🤣
I need y’all to review King Los God Said It, I know you’ll do it justice.
I don’t understand how you can select someone who doesn’t know their own lyrics.🤦🏽♀️
as a kendrick stan, it should've gone to wayne. Kendrick has already performed at the super bowl and already his huge moment this year. They're both deserving of the recognition, but kendrick's been getting an abundance of it in comparison to wayne.
No y’all b forgetting .. pick or big would b in the same place.. y’all forget how great someone is till they gone
If you're K. Dot, you can open up the show with Mona Lisa. Bring out Wayne and perform that and the rest up the show to K. Dot but bringing out Wayne for a joint like Mona Lisa or something else would be dope.
Since when was it a birthright for someone from the host city to perform at half-time? Weird times we're in
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Stephen A. Smith confirmed that Lil Wayne was on the list. It's on the same broadcast recently when he went off on Nicki.
Stephen A isn’t a good source tbh because he never cites his own sources lol it’s always “I just so happen to know” or “a close friend of mine” etc.
@@directedbysunny Well, since he claims to be Jayz's close friend, that's what he said. I'm just stating the facts.
@@DoctorKesha Nah I gotchu I’m just letting you know as someone who’s followed Stephen for a while being an NBA fan. You gotta take what he says with a grain of salt because he’s known for not being reliable when it comes to those kinda reports. Why would Jay-Z tell him and then allow him to announce it knowing that only fuels the hate being thrown towards him at the moment. It never adds up with Steph when it’s a “close friend” of his trust me lol
@@directedbysunny ok
Rod saying “it’s not Wayne’s time” and “Wayne’s time is past” is crazy. It doesn’t matter that he has a recent hit out or not. It’s the caliber of artist. Nothing would stop Aerosmith from performing in a Super Bowl… EVER. So saying it’s too late for Wayne is a bad argument.
The superbowl audience isn’t made up of entirely gen alpha. Wayne fans are viewed buying the tickets
Wayne music has not aged well and Kendrick Penetrates different fan bases of non rap fan bases more because of his songwriting and creativity.”Lollipop” and “Ms.Officer” are corny now in hindsight
@@nategiddens9620 Yeah but that isn't the point. He's not saying its incomprehensible to pick Wayne to perform, bc youre right, he very well could have been picked no matter how distant his commercial prime is. The point is that Wayne's cultural profile is not nearly hot enough for people to be this upset that Kendrick was picked. He's just saying that the shock seems weird considering how Wayne is statistically a less profitable name right now.
I agree, legacy artists are chosen all the time so that was a bad argument. There's a million good reasons why Wayne wasn't picked but that's not one of them
@@fangal12okay just be honest if you were hosting a party or something like that would you actually want someone who said shit like "I'm a venereal disease" and "beat that pissy up like Emmett Till" has the music addition to your party?
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Akademiks NOT MasterP started this nonsense.And the nfl and the city not Jay has the final say on who performs
The City of N.O. said that they found out when everyone else did. Jay-Z confirmed that he has the final say, by saying that the only reason that he didn't pick himself, was because it would've been "selfish".
When you guys said 'Wayne's time has passed' that he was best to perform maybe years prior when he was more relevant, is exactly why people are mad. It is more so the fact that he never has, because if not now, or then, then never? Is a crazy thought considering how he is the biggest artist out of NO and one of the most influential in the game. I do agree though that the outrage was ridiculous.
Kendrick is the best the culture can offer right now. No debate.
People acting like they chose Tommy Richman or something…
People had more outrage about this perceived Superbowl Snub than they did for that Reparations Bill in Cali being declined
Why argue with clowns when the circus is well at work? - Kendrick Lamar. Yet, here I am commenting three times.
No more super bowls in NOLA.
7:32 Y’all sounding like the commentator in ROCKY 3 after CLUBBER LANG beat his ass 😂😂😂😂😂. Now, Wayne ain’t got it no more.
19:59 Dre produced Family Affair
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Y’all seem to ignore that rap is not the genre of music that the NFL core audience wants to hear. All of you know who those artists are doesn’t mean they do. The music isn’t even family friendly that y’all talking about. And I agree that people coming for Kendrick before he even creates his own vision. It’s very disappointing. The Super Bowl isn’t even paid and people behaving like it’s an award.
If the outrage made sense the people being outraged should be able to list prior acts. That nobody remembers Rihanna was just last year or that Shakira and J Lo were performers says a lot. The outrage assumes that the stage belongs to a black performer or even that because Jay involved it has to be a rap act. At the end of the day that’s the problem, that so many feel entitled instead of grateful.
Correction right off the top: Jay-Z doesnt have final say; the NFL does
Ken corrects that in the video
Really not gonna review Ultra 85?
Wayne doesn’t care about this the way he claim he does
➡Shaun Harrison, Art Director of the Grammy’s quotes: "I've 'worked with' Lil Wayne before for Grammy performance and personal feelings that would be the biggest mistake ever putting him as the headliner for the biggest performance of the year The Super Bowl," Harrison wrote. "He showed up to zero rehearsals we didn't even think he would make the performance then last minute he was in the building and ran on stage for the performance and ran off back into oblivion lol. Never even got to meet him after week of rehearsals for a show. Kendrick Lamar is one of the greatest rap performers ever and unapologetically black in his message and it's during black history month, it's going to be a spectacle!" In a follow-up post on his Instagram Story, Harrison further argued: "Not to mention Dr. Dre is the only to be from the state the Super Bowl is in... so the argument is moot, that's never been a prerequisite."
➡ My take. At the end of the day, the NFL is a top-tier business entity with hopes of going global. They are behind flag football being in future Olympics. why would they want anyone who looks like Post Malone or Lil Wayne representing their brand on an international broadcast? They both look drugged out and dirty. Skid row vibes. And that’s the truth. Did you see his wrestlemania performance? And what songs could he sing for 15 minutes where every other word doesn’t have to be bleeped out or edited? A consummate professional with showmanship, someone with attention to detail, a disciplined focus and a relatively family friendly discography was chosen.
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Lil Wayne is the GOAT but come on! If you've seen Lil Wayne's performance at the WWE, then you'd obviously know why Kendrick was chosen. And Lil Wayne is said to very unprofessional behind the scenes. He's said to be late during rehearsals, he forgets his lyrics, he's been known to have an anger problem and lashes out at staff, he performs drunk and he is not the same performer he once was. He is legendary rapper but he is definitely not a great live performer unlike Kendrick. Just look at his performance during the SuperBowl Halftime show with Dr Dre. Or his performance at SNL or at the Grammys. Kendrick can and will definitely put on a better show than Lil Wayne.
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Nicki has a problem with Megan through Jay
how brief did lil wayne feel his entitlement, before breaking his heart over nothing?
Wayne doesn't have a set list for the Super Bowl. Wayne would do the NBA All Star game but not the Super Bowl.
I like how everyone just skipped over the biggest part of this whole conversation. Jay Z helped the NFL pull off the biggest Jedi mind trick. It got us to stop focusing on the blatant racism and misconduct to players of color. They had us spoon fed with artists for one half time show. Now the conversation is people of color arguing with each other about which black millionaire capitalist deserves to perform for a predominantly white artist. Isn’t that nuts? Nobody even talks about NFL racism that goes on to this day. And honestly I look at Kendrick differently. We cannot call out artists like Jay and Beyoncé for cosplaying but because we love Kendrick now he gets a pass.
Yes, Kendrick gets a pass. The man is changing the game, while performing at one of the worlds largest games.
Let's not forget that Dot gave us the anthem to our current racial tensions, and police brutality, with "Alright".
Regarding the players: Who is supposed to speak up for them, if they're still playing, and not speaking up for themselves? They are NOT voiceless.
@@titushill7031 dot specifically said he’s riding with Kap until the NFL changed. Has the league changed? No right. Kap still unemployed? Yeah right. So Jay Z was enough for artists to start jumping on stage for a predominantly white. Idc if 10 million people are watching. That benefits him and him alone. People are watching the Super Bowl to be entertained and it just amazes me that people who claim love the art of hip hop are so quit to sell it out FOR FREE. Just because they like the artist.
@@clflamez6861 I couldn't find the quote that you speak of. But regardless, Kendrick supporting Kaepernick's stance, and boycotting the NFL are two completely different things. I think that you are missing the bigger scheme of things. No halftime show is going to change the NFL...No matter who performs.
If all those NFL players are still willing to play, while being "so mistreated", and without Kaepernick, then why should someone that's not in the NFL need to take a stronger stance? The players could quickly change things, if they stood/"kneeled" in solidarity in protest.
Also, where do you get your SB viewership demographic data from, because I know that people of ALL races watch it, faithfully.
Yall are really conflating Waynes words in that interview
"Turning his back on black people" 😂
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It's the point they showed up in New Orleans that many times to keep looking over Rappers like There is no artists there
With Jay-Z knowing the talent from Wayne how can u look over him Kendrick had a time to do the Superbowl this is crazy to even talk about it
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Did you guys hear "Saturday Mornings"?? Top 6 or 7 tracks for me at least and that includes the KDot and Drake battle
I did hear that one. I do like it. However, that doesn't change the facts about his professionalism, live performances, memory issues, and other "health issues." He is not the best candidate at this time. I am hopeful he somehow cleans himself up (I suspect one of the loud crybabies is a big piece of why he is in the condition he is in now). Maybe he can secure a performance if he cleans himself up and it helps his memory.
I respect Rod but that was some BS you said at the 7:00 mark. What you mean Lil Wayne time passed? If Wayne’s mark in legacy doesn’t matter, then what’s the point of a rapper putting out music in the first place?
Based on this rhetoric, it seems like what Wayne did for his whole career meant nothing and that is crazy to say. What else does Wayne need to do to prove his legacy, it’s crazy to even talk about Lil Wayne legacy in the first place. Rod disrespecting Wayne saying “his time passed” is just verbal diarrhea that I can’t take serious.
Y’all suppose to be authorities on the culture and y’all saying crap like that, it’s hard to take you serious when you say stuff like that. Wayne’s time will never be passed cause his legacy is cemented forever in hip hop. Put some respect on Lil Wayne’s name, be better than that, it’s beneath you Rod to say something like that
The outrage felt artificially instigated from jump, and that smells like a smear campaign by larger forces.
Not necessarily by Drake, but more like the money behind him ‘cause you can’t allow Kendrick to perform “Not Like Us” and call their cash cow a PDF file in front of the largest television audience there is!!!
Exactly!! I think so, too!!