VS Commodore DRIFT Car walk around

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • Short walk around video of my Ecotec powered 1995 Holden VS Commodore drift car, any questions comment below!
    Specs:
    Ecotec V6Pacemakers/twin 2.5" exhaust
    MACE 25mm manifold insulator
    Custom CAICatch can/PCV blocked
    Power steering cooler
    T5 box standard clutch
    Front
    S13 coilovers
    No sway bay
    +40mm extended LCAs/tie rods
    Showtime knuckles
    Shortened castor arms
    SuperPro bushes
    Rear
    S13 coilovers (custom towers/mounts)
    Adjustable upper control arms
    Adjustable pan hard
    Custom dual caliper setup
    Locked 3.08 diff
    Fully gutted
    Bolt in halfcage w/ door bars
    Complete AC and heater delete
    Custom hydro handbrake
    Bucket seat/steering wheel
    5 Point harnesses
    Filmed on iPhone SE
    Edited in iMovie

Комментарии • 158

  • @CorzaBell
    @CorzaBell  4 года назад +3

    Few more outside clips from DCA Mt Gambier are amongst this vid
    ruclips.net/video/a9RHITBIGAo/видео.html

    • @lifeselector9957
      @lifeselector9957 3 года назад

      I live in mount g bro do you still have this thing or did you move it on?

  • @Jackarooooo
    @Jackarooooo 4 года назад +17

    The VS commodore I feel is way too underappreciated, bloody awesome build here mate, good stuff!

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +5

      Campbell McKenzie I agree!
      Good front end with the mac strut, and stripped out they're not that much heavier than an s chassis
      V6 being short means all the engine weight is behind the front axle
      Wheelbase is the same as an E36, and they're popular enough for drifting as well

  • @lukecollins7965
    @lukecollins7965 4 года назад +3

    Nice work mate!!! I used to have a nice VR sold it for 500 bucks, got a call from the council a few months later they asked me if i wanted to pick my car up since i was the last registered owner, the guy i sold it to just left it on the side of the road hahaha. I told the council to take it away, now these commodore are popular.

  • @zeroyon9
    @zeroyon9 4 года назад +3

    This is awesome mate. You are having heaps of fun and i bet its 1/10th the budget of a lot of other cars !

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Yeah mate cost very little, couldn't be in an s-chassis for the price of this!

  • @Knackersjewels
    @Knackersjewels 4 года назад +1

    Exactly like my old vr, no gauges except water temp and limiterrrrrrrr. Love it. Sounds the same too

  • @tyrefryer6884
    @tyrefryer6884 3 года назад +1

    Inspirational! Thats my word to sum this up. Well done mate!!!

  • @johnp3566
    @johnp3566 4 года назад +4

    UP THE VS!!! I'm building a VS ute with a turbo LS1 as a track hack at the moment

  • @TorqHub
    @TorqHub 4 года назад +8

    Nice work cob! That performs well for a simple package. The shitloads of hours you've put in has paid off 💪👌

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +3

      Cheers mate, it sure does!
      They definitely have but like any car it's never done haha

    • @TorqHub
      @TorqHub 4 года назад

      @@CorzaBell definitely know the feeling hahaha

  • @GladHackerGaming
    @GladHackerGaming 4 года назад +3

    Awesome build mate! i have 2 sitting in the backyard at the moment, this has definitely inspired me to continue the original dream!

  • @Eliter224
    @Eliter224 3 года назад +1

    Yo I really love the stock beat up look on holden cars tis magically great

  • @brindalmotorsport
    @brindalmotorsport 4 года назад +3

    Love this setup! Wish there were more like it 🤙🏻

  • @oldrevhead4686
    @oldrevhead4686 4 года назад +2

    Well done young fella,Keep it real,and have fun,and get as much experience as you can, Your car goes great.

  • @trumpfps5494
    @trumpfps5494 4 года назад +2

    Nice car

  • @naxoslfdl7440
    @naxoslfdl7440 3 года назад +1

    Definitely stealing a few of your ideas mate it’s a great setup. Well done 👍🏻

  • @rwilko9525
    @rwilko9525 4 года назад +1

    I smiled so much watching this.

  • @danielcarlucci5243
    @danielcarlucci5243 4 года назад +3

    Definitely giving me motivation to get on with the WH my mate and I got for $300. Just have to find a manual for it when the 4l60 explodes

  • @TODDY_2_FINGERS
    @TODDY_2_FINGERS 3 года назад

    I call blokes likes this a 'candrive'...cause he can drive ✌ Very nice economical build, with solid results. It really shows you don't have to spend huge $$ to get good results

  • @tharrahsuter6303
    @tharrahsuter6303 4 года назад +7

    Dude this is bloody insane I’m doing a vs ute soon with bc coilovers

  • @mitchelljones9812
    @mitchelljones9812 4 года назад +6

    thats rig is mint

  • @bakedpotato8218
    @bakedpotato8218 4 года назад +1

    My ears are blessed

  • @adambennett1193
    @adambennett1193 4 года назад +1

    nice vid, my first car was a vs like this but auto, I put in a shift kit it would kick out sideways shifting into second. what a beast hahah

  • @phillipjack1098
    @phillipjack1098 4 года назад +1

    See and been in at mount gambier dca was amazing to ride along i it goes so well, such an inspiration

  • @AbdullahKhan-te3mv
    @AbdullahKhan-te3mv 4 года назад +1

    Nice job man.respect
    NZ

  • @jamesglasson937
    @jamesglasson937 4 года назад +2

    Looks an Sounds sick plz make more videos of it

  • @sugarbombs6884
    @sugarbombs6884 4 года назад +2

    Seen you sending it on the track, things mint mate!

  • @marcftp
    @marcftp 4 года назад +1

    The filthy ecotec mang hahaha keep up the good builds

  • @lockstompandsteer
    @lockstompandsteer 4 года назад

    Congrats on the video blowing up man. Sick car 🤟🏻

  • @Delahaye666
    @Delahaye666 4 года назад

    dude it handels so well

  • @Tony-112
    @Tony-112 4 года назад +1

    Love this 👌👍

  • @carstuff1281
    @carstuff1281 4 года назад +1

    Keep the videos coming for it looks mint

  • @crew-dn1je
    @crew-dn1je 4 года назад

    Ahhh the memories green vs used to have one myself she used to love life

  • @TheWretchedWorld
    @TheWretchedWorld 4 года назад

    My only advice is reloacte the maf to the straight piece of pipe further up. In order to read 100% accurately it needs a good bit of straight pipe before and after it. Might throw the readings off a bit. Looks good otherwise.

  • @rocknroll1753
    @rocknroll1753 4 года назад

    Sweet car mate, goes proper hard for a v6 so good on ya 🤙 long live the mighty mang

  • @holdenfan4513
    @holdenfan4513 4 года назад +4

    Go the vs ☝️👍

  • @cocobeans1189
    @cocobeans1189 4 года назад

    Can steer would be a hell lot of fun in that thing

  • @spiritlevelstudios
    @spiritlevelstudios 4 года назад

    Nice work dude. I used to have a VN wagon, Series 1, factory T5.
    Did a bunch of things. My first mini spool. Loved getting a HD cushion button clutch when I got around to it. Had a great feel.
    Did about a 120 kg weight reduction which was one of the best mods but also probably the worst thing for a daily, but whatever. The performance increase just from doing that was amazing. Also the balance with the V6 up front was way better than a V8. I couldn't believe how well it handled, especially with a camber kit on the front. They are actually great cars and parts were so cheap. Good times.

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Cheers mate, yeah the balance is great, 100% of the engine weight is behind the front wheels, they are very underrated for sure!
      I'd still love a Nissan but you pay for it haha hard to justify when these are cheap and do the job, could build 3 of these for the price of one Nissan probably lol

  • @Michael-lg4wz
    @Michael-lg4wz 4 года назад +1

    nice setup

  • @milkmane7838
    @milkmane7838 4 года назад +1

    Please show a video how you extended your control arms ect

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Pause the vid at 16:22
      Extended using 6mm steel plate with the holes for the ball joint drilled 40mm apart to create the 40mm extension, 6 M8 bolts, hardened washers and nyloc nuts hold it all together

  • @shmoke0098
    @shmoke0098 4 года назад +1

    Good shit man! I’m keen to do a VY drift build with my V6 ecotec!

  • @10dollajnac
    @10dollajnac 3 года назад

    Only just seen this mint vs 💯👌

  • @raymondjakku6429
    @raymondjakku6429 4 года назад +2

    She beautiful😍

  • @daneturnbull9542
    @daneturnbull9542 4 года назад +7

    A weapon mate... needs some boost tho my brotha 😊🤘

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +9

      Cheers mate, nah don't need boost, I wouldn't be able to afford to drive it haha

    • @amyphillips7461
      @amyphillips7461 4 года назад

      Hey Corey, would one of those Ecotec superchargers ruin your mpg?

    • @finrennard3402
      @finrennard3402 4 года назад +2

      @@amyphillips7461 moreso MPT (miles per tyre)

    • @RejectedOutcast
      @RejectedOutcast 4 года назад

      You needa help me with the vp and coil overs in the rear im in Melbourne now lol

  • @louisblair3999
    @louisblair3999 4 года назад +2

    Such a cool budget build, with a few custom bits 👌
    What's your clutch setup? Cable or factory hydraulic

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +2

      Cheers mate!
      Stock clutch which for the T5 is cable, Getrag ones are hydraulic

  • @Anthony-fq9ct
    @Anthony-fq9ct Месяц назад

    Great vid mate. Does it have to be manual to build a good drift VS commodore or can auto be ok too? Any advice in that regard? Also are pacemakers headers the recommended header for ecotec? Cheers

  • @zanecrocker9091
    @zanecrocker9091 4 года назад

    Sounds like an angry bee on steroids I love it, sounds tuff as

  • @Prospectingandcars
    @Prospectingandcars 4 года назад +1

    Hella yeah boy 💪

  • @user-vs7sb9wg2r
    @user-vs7sb9wg2r 4 года назад +1

    No AC in Australia? Pretty badass 🔥
    do more videos on it, I wanna see it slide!

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Thanks man, nah it had AC but took it all out haha

  • @martyburgess341
    @martyburgess341 3 года назад

    sounds sweet!

  • @slidingvu3481
    @slidingvu3481 4 года назад +2

    i remember this from DCA mt gambier

  • @enduroboi6780
    @enduroboi6780 4 года назад

    Tip top mate 👌 nice work

  • @ryanmurray9200
    @ryanmurray9200 2 года назад

    Can u do a vid on how u ran the battery wiring trying to figure out the best way to do it on mine

  • @SendItGarage
    @SendItGarage 4 года назад

    Use some VT/VY lower control arms they are a direct fit and they are the length you are trying to achieve with those spacer plates

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Nah extensions are good, fail safe as well cause they'll bend instead of wrecking other shit
      Ball joint setup is different on VT arms and the VR/S stuff is better

  • @danielshaw7962
    @danielshaw7962 2 года назад

    I have the same colour vs, I wanna drop a LS in it

  • @ryanholland2744
    @ryanholland2744 4 года назад

    Good job 👍👍
    That looks fun at f#$k to drive!!!
    That is killer for a stock eco with 3.08:1 gears
    Nice build 👍 👍👍

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Thanks mate! Yeah mate it's a blast, more than enough getup to have a good time, and cheap to run too

  • @maffuoh436
    @maffuoh436 4 года назад

    Love it 👌👌

  • @willdickson8412
    @willdickson8412 2 года назад

    Hey mate, I am going to get one of these to start drifting and I cant find any good suspension parts like the coilovers and the control arms for camber, do you recommend any or could you reply with the links to where I can get some? thanks mate.

  • @jessetheunit2306
    @jessetheunit2306 4 года назад +1

    Yo Corey! Mean as car I love it!! Just one quick question, you're running dual calipers, just curious if you got a bracket or how you mounted the second caliper? - pls note I haven't attempted this and don't own a early commodore to see how it would be set up. Cheers bro

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Jesse The Unit
      Cheers mate! Mounted the same as the standard ones. I just welded a bit of material to the backing plates where I needed to drill the holes, then placed the 2 back to back to get the hole positions and drilled them, pretty easy to do

    • @jessetheunit2306
      @jessetheunit2306 4 года назад

      @@CorzaBell Legend Bro, looking at a few early commodores this weekend to turn into drift builds, means a lot man! keep more vids coming!

  • @jaynus9429
    @jaynus9429 2 года назад

    Hey mate what was your wheel off set? I know you said +18 but you can only get +15 and +25 on the dspeed website.
    Also your car is a bloody weapon 🤙

  • @woodsrapira732
    @woodsrapira732 4 года назад

    Sick bratha

  • @zoozu2067
    @zoozu2067 4 года назад

    Nice one

  • @samuelmdouglas
    @samuelmdouglas 4 года назад

    Nice one mate

  • @adamgilbert7511
    @adamgilbert7511 4 года назад +1

    where did you get the dual calliper mounting bracket

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      I made them myself, pretty easy to do

  • @greateregg2667
    @greateregg2667 4 года назад +1

    You have your front rotor discs on the wrong way the discs are on the wrong side.

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      GreaterEgg ran them both ways, makes no difference
      Depends on what source you read on Google, some say that some way the other way

    • @greateregg2667
      @greateregg2667 4 года назад

      Corey Bell I got a full set for mine and they had instructions to specifically run them a certain way other wise they don’t cool as fast.

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      @@greateregg2667 Yeah they probably have directional/angled fins in the middle,
      These ones are the cheapest of cheap and have straight/vertical fins

  • @bomblifenewzealand
    @bomblifenewzealand 4 года назад

    Fuckin mint brother! Thats gangsta!

  • @DxmxgedGoods
    @DxmxgedGoods 3 года назад

    Yo dude where did you get the interior done

  • @RejectedOutcast
    @RejectedOutcast 4 года назад

    Love it lol

  • @kingbut200
    @kingbut200 4 года назад

    this makes me want to buy a vs and do shit to it

  • @paulgionfriddo6803
    @paulgionfriddo6803 4 года назад +1

    Hey man, when did you get the car? Looks soo similar to my vs. mine also had ecotec t5

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Back in 2016 mate, was an auto

  • @Deltarig
    @Deltarig 4 года назад

    Nice Mate but I cant Like the "no thermostat"
    motors not happy ay.
    Go a 120f thermo if the 143 was causing dramas. No Thermo Is BAD. just a concisiration. cheers mate good work.

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Alex Del cheers for the input mate, only ever took it out cause the old one wasn't opening, being a paddock basher at the time never worried about it
      I've got the temp gauge there and manually turn the fan on and off to maintain the temp at 85°C or there abouts
      Been like that the last 4 years and hasn't died yet

    • @Deltarig
      @Deltarig 4 года назад +1

      @@CorzaBell ahhh ok. Hehe that's funny as. Thermofan controlling the temp is new to me.
      Wouldnt of even thought of that.

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Alex Del I need to buy relay/thermistor kit that will automatically turn the fan on/off for me haha

  • @bradr4728
    @bradr4728 3 года назад

    Just found the beast on snap maps haha

  • @zachvasey1350
    @zachvasey1350 4 года назад

    Can you get some more of those coilover plates made mate? I need some for my vr ute!

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Zach Vasey find me on Facebook and message me dude

  • @dimiti-leebella8130
    @dimiti-leebella8130 Год назад

    What rpm in 5th at 100kms with the 3.89 and 5 speed? My drift car still has to drive me to work 😅

    • @QldSlide
      @QldSlide 9 месяцев назад

      im trying to figure this out atm also lol. old mate looks like hes running a 3.09 though not 3.9. running a 3.9 youll see roughly 3000rpm at 110 or 2800rpm at 100
      based of google results of getrag gearbox ratios

  • @mattcrick2156
    @mattcrick2156 4 года назад +1

    How old were you when you first drove?

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Drove a car probably 14, driving little Chinese Twister go karts (80cc, 150cc, 250cc) from 9 to 18, then this car on the dirt in 2016, then on a the asphalt as a drift car in 2018 when I was 20

  • @ajv802
    @ajv802 4 года назад

    I saw this guy at McDOnalds in Sydenham. He was stealing fuel out of a parked car with his mates.

  • @SkitzWallaby
    @SkitzWallaby 3 года назад

    What’s wrong with the hood pins? They look alright. Im considering getting something like that for mine, sick of the stock latch not working properly and jamming

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  3 года назад

      Well they actually are ok haha just sucked setting them up at the time
      The angles of the bonnet and rad support, plus the way it closes just means they can be fiddly, have had them come loose and not latch

  • @christn_1xd496
    @christn_1xd496 2 года назад

    you know you own a vs when the speedos buggerd

  • @jamesr4236
    @jamesr4236 3 года назад

    Awesome build man! how did you go removing the ABS? simply rip it out and flare some new lines up happy days? works a treat? cheers mate!!

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  3 года назад +1

      Cheers mate!
      Just unplugging it works well haha but to actually get rid of it I bent the lines from the module back over to the master.
      For the rear brake line I had to cut the nut off and use a smaller one, then re flare it.
      Works perfectly just the lines look a bit average haha take the module out from the drivers side kick panel and the abs light on the dash will go away too

    • @jamesr4236
      @jamesr4236 3 года назад

      @@CorzaBell badass cheers man! nah hate that massive thing and its not gonna help sideways so looking to totally get rid of it same as yourself..
      Thanks heaps! will be sorting this in the next week or two! =D legend

    • @jamesr4236
      @jamesr4236 3 года назад

      @@CorzaBell hey man.. sorry to bother you haha noticed you removed all the body deadening inside.. was there much weight in it all? and what route did you take the ol dry ice or good ol fashioned scraper? H.N.Y BTW! lol

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  3 года назад

      @@jamesr4236 nah all good mate
      Hard to say about the weight I never weighed it, but would be at least 20kg I reckon, it adds up
      I used a hammer and wood chisel, then hit it with the wire wheel on the grinder, and wiped/cleaned the rest off with brake cleaner, came up nice where I didn’t get too aggressive with the chisel

  • @pmaximus100
    @pmaximus100 4 года назад +1

    mang mang mang mang

  • @iRoN_ReGiMEnT
    @iRoN_ReGiMEnT 4 года назад +1

    Great car mate, VR/VS are my favorite commies

  • @peterclark4175
    @peterclark4175 4 года назад

    What top rear arms you use. I've been wanting rose joint end but can't find them

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      I made my own, Whiteline sell adjustable upper rear arms I'm pretty sure

  • @rwdmaster5112
    @rwdmaster5112 4 года назад +1

    What rims my guy

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Mentioned in the video man, they're D-Speed DS03

  • @zacgiles5413
    @zacgiles5413 4 года назад

    Howd you go with the showtime fab knuckles any dramas with them?

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Zac Giles they're good mate, heaps of lock

  • @tomcarney299
    @tomcarney299 2 года назад

    Where did u put battery

    • @tomcarney299
      @tomcarney299 2 года назад

      Dw u showed it after I cometted 😂

  • @BUZDRIFT
    @BUZDRIFT Год назад

    Wanted a bit more time with the lca and how you extended and shortened the setup! Pity Showtime don't make the welded knuckles anymore!

  • @travismcdonald9801
    @travismcdonald9801 3 года назад

    Hey mate what did you do to put in vy pedals thanks

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  3 года назад

      Travis Mcdonald the brake and clutch are just the pedal covers, so I cut the pedals down to size so they fitted on
      The throttle I just swapped the pedal over by knocking out a little roll pin on the back, all the brackets are still VS stuff

  • @wyldriot9730
    @wyldriot9730 2 года назад

    Why do I feel like that commodore has been through shit

  • @N55666
    @N55666 4 года назад

    what size are your rear tyres for drifting

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      O N I run 215/45/18, brand new

  • @mittyjamesgower7188
    @mittyjamesgower7188 3 года назад

    You still have this?

  • @navsinghuppal5046
    @navsinghuppal5046 4 года назад

    What rims are those

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Watch the vid mate, DSpeed DS03

  • @alecpalmer8171
    @alecpalmer8171 4 года назад +1

    Weapon

  • @SketchyDaveBlueGuy
    @SketchyDaveBlueGuy 3 года назад

    what diff ratio u run mate?

  • @matthewbentley2308
    @matthewbentley2308 3 года назад

    Keen to delete abs on my vs for track use.. simple job is it?

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  3 года назад

      Yeah easy enough man,
      Just unplugging it works well haha but to actually get rid of it I bent the original lines from the module back over to the master.
      For the rear brake line I had to cut the nut off and use a smaller one, then re flare it.
      Works perfectly just the lines look a bit average haha take the module out from the drivers side kick panel and the abs light on the dash will go away too

    • @matthewbentley2308
      @matthewbentley2308 3 года назад

      @@CorzaBell thats awesome thankyou! Did it matter what position on the master the lines went or are the outlet positions all the same as such?

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  3 года назад +1

      @@matthewbentley2308 the two rear fittings closet to firewall (one on top of another) are the fronts
      The front port on it’s own is the rear

    • @matthewbentley2308
      @matthewbentley2308 3 года назад

      @@CorzaBell awesome thank you!!!

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  3 года назад +1

      @@matthewbentley2308 no worries mate just message me if ya get stuck!

  • @1980kittykats
    @1980kittykats 4 года назад

    Mang 💯🇦🇺🤪

  • @Xxassass1n021xX
    @Xxassass1n021xX 4 года назад

    Sick video. Camera man needs help following the car properly tho

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Yeah don't have a proper camera person haha just some clips the ol man filmed when he came along so can't complain cause there'd be none otherwise haha

    • @Xxassass1n021xX
      @Xxassass1n021xX 4 года назад

      @@CorzaBell yeah good on him, just got my r31 probably get my oldmto record some skids too HAHA

  • @HEKTIC458
    @HEKTIC458 4 года назад

    Sounds beefy at idle

  • @ridethatslapthat
    @ridethatslapthat 4 года назад

    Doesn't even need a slip on spacer on the front as the rims clearly clear the callipers 🤦‍♂️

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      It's for clearance at full lock, rim rubs on tie rod without the spacer...

  • @jacksonhiggins3302
    @jacksonhiggins3302 4 года назад

    Makes me sad seeing her bashed up a bit Hahahah

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      Jackson Higgins why hahah just an old POS Commodore, they're nothing special😂

  • @cancan8467
    @cancan8467 4 года назад +1

    Love my Holdens
    But it’s a six 👎🏿

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      Lol, nothing wrong with a six mate, don't need a V8 to drift
      Less weight over the front end anyways with the smaller engine

    • @cancan8467
      @cancan8467 4 года назад +1

      Corey Bell well you certainly proved a six can do the job can’t argue that . Good drifting skills

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад

      @@cancan8467 Cheers mate

  • @nathanmaher8850
    @nathanmaher8850 4 года назад

    fords are greater than Holden because Ford came before chev and Holden

    • @CorzaBell
      @CorzaBell  4 года назад +1

      That's nice, I like both

    • @nathanmaher8850
      @nathanmaher8850 4 года назад

      yea I don't mind both

    • @nic.d7539
      @nic.d7539 4 года назад +2

      Actually Holden is about 164 yo. Ford is about 116, GM 111 yo Chev 108 yo.

    • @nathanmaher8850
      @nathanmaher8850 4 года назад

      but Ford came out before chev did