I just wanted to increase the size of my storage while also eliminating sound and heat from the drive area. The fact that there is even any difference in performance makes it totally worth it to me.
@@Anti-Yeet I agree there are more read/write limits on ssd. It’s why most security systems use mechanical drives. And ssd may run cooler but they get crippled in a hot environment over the mechanical variety. Ssd is far superior in terms of technical features of course. But people clearly turn blind eyes to the issues. Ssd really comes down to the bottle neck of the system itself. Iv got 3 original Xbox’s with the original 8gb drives in them they are doing just fine.
SATA 1 won't matter that much because it only affects sequential speeds, while SSD's biggest advantage over HDD's are random speeds (measured in IOPS). In short, the time it takes to jump between each little file is instantaneous, while HDD's had to physically move their head (needle) across the disk. This is what greatly improves overall speed in many tasks, regardless of the maximum sequential speed, or whether you are using NVME or SATA.
@@stephenxs8354 PS3 is "agnostic" to its storage to a certain degree, but I'm happy to learn more if you ellaborate. Its CPU asks for a certain asset (like a small texture, that is loaded into the RAM and later managed by the GPU). And it's the storage (HDD/SSD) that looks for that particular file before loading it. SSD does this almost instantaneously. I have seen this with my eyes in the original RAGE game for example. So I don't deny that PS3 has other bottlenecks where SSD's can't totally help, but I'm very sure of this behaviour in PS3, PC's and other consoles as well.
@@jesuschavez9110 Sí, un SSD SATA se calienta menos y consume menos que un disco duro. Aunque el cambio en el calor total del sistema es insignificante. También es mucho más silencioso y resistente al movimiento. Pero la mayor ventaja es que acelera el tiempo de arranque de la PS3 y la carga de los juegos instalados en el almacenamiento (un 30% más rápidos de media, a veces hasta el 50%). En algunos juegos el cambio es muy grande (GTA 5, Gran Turismo, Skyrim o RAGE).
Great detail on this! I'll be sure to link to it when people ask about getting a giant boost in performance on the PS3. Not particularly worth it to me, but people like to see numbers to match up to results.
Fancy seeing you here MrMario! Huge fan of your modding videos!! However , In news of Sony shutting down PS3 Store in July2021, you should make a video about how to best prepare for this, as a legit ps3 games PSN owner , I'm very concerned about all the games i bought off PSN and the longevity of my HDD in regards to those games and updates in the near future. Cheers ! From a a big fan 😌
@@chrispena8186 i have modded 4 PS3's, but i also have a legitimate console with lots of games i bought off of psn with several hundred hours of gameplay saves, i'm no stranger to CFW haha, i guess I'm just a bit sad about PS3N going down after all these years :(
My super slim with PS3hen was always scanning for corrupted data, and that in particular is so much faster with an SSD that it was worth it for that alone.
I upgraded my PS3 fat with Crucial SSD and it speeds up the system pretty well, mostly in open world games like GTA 5 or RDR, another great video. Thanks!
this is exactly why i was considering upgrading. i dont really care about game load times, its wierd he did not do some kind of xmb speed test. on mine it can get pretty sloggy when switching games or opening multiman etc. but thanks for the info, deff upgrading asap
@@makavelithedon9738 the same all games benefit from SSD no more random every half hour freezing on new Vegas, does not matter if you running it digital or from the disc you will see stable performance
@ViciousDave4Life All of that is true except for the part about having higher frame-rates. An SSD has nothing to do with the frame-rate and is strictly tied to the CPU/GPU of the console. But yes, an SSD in a PS3 is well worth it considering how cheap they are now. Most games are run off the disc anyway so an SSD is excellent to speed up the XMB, reduce texture pop-in and generally reduce power and heat consumption.
sir.i want ask change stock hdd PS3 or PS4 to new HDD/SSD and instal System PS3 and if something happen unexpected in new HDD/SSD when want change to old HDD PS3 i need do something? plug and play? no need reinstal system in old HDD?
@@TmpVideoNo. An SSD will always last longer then an HDD. Anyone who works on servers or IT will tell you that. A benefit of HDD is technically it is easier to fix an HDD then an SSD if it fails
I have an SSD in my CECHA01 (fully backwards compatible) mainly because it doesn’t produce as much heat but compared to my 2501b with its stock HDD, there really isn’t much of a difference, but it does seem a smidge bit smoother overall.
Thanks for this video. I recently modified 2 PS3 Slim consoles using your video, so much easier than the first PS3 mod using another person's video. Well, this here helped tremendously. I was contemplating if I should go SSD or HDD, but your video helped me decide. Going to stick to getting HDD 1 TB....less expensive and it performs just about the same... Thanks Mr. Blaine!!!!
the only reason it's not loading as fast as expected is because there are certain animations in between each load time, it first has to finish each animation before actually loading, and not only that but there is alot more that an SSD does to a PS3 than just load times stand alone
I personally did a 1TB Samsung SSD today for some downloaded games from the PlayStation network. Mortal Kombat 2 plays great! the PS1 games load pretty much as normal. Games like Silent Hill, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and Dino Crisis having different resolutions in menus, load, and play as normal. If you have the discs it'll play as emulation. the store loads fast which was a surprise. It's also quieter I'm guessing due to the HDD being one of the culprits. If you have a spare drive go for it. 500GB is plenty for games if you want a fresh drive.
I know these are made and sold in the tens of millions, so every bit of cost cutting makes a difference, but the PS3 having SATA 1 and the PS4 having SATA 2 is bizarre to me..
If PS3 could read data from the hard drive @ 150 MB/s then it would fill the RAM in 3 seconds.... the reality is it reads at about 30 MB/s max. SSD can give better performance in some games like Gran Turismo 6 because it handles small files better (and GT6 has 50 000 small files, LOL)
O SSD também ajuda na velocidade de renderização em alguns casos, o GTA V no meu ps3 super slim ficava dando bugs de texturas e de render, quando troquei para o SSD esses problemas sumiram, e o jogo ficou muito mais rápido em seus loadings. Até o Shadow of Mordor melhorou bastante em loadings e renderização de campo.
It would be nice if you tested loading times using OFW with DVD and using CFW when whole DVD is placed as ISO on the ssd drive. This would be meaningful comparison, please :)
I thought about doing this, but I think that I want to just go the flash drive route and store/play the files directly from USB instead. 1tb flash drives are dropping in price these days and you can get as many as you need to create a massive collection library. I'm also not too worried about the xmb loading a second faster.
I saw a video of another youtuber that made the same experiment with a complete SSD installation of GTA V - from press start to the actual gameplay: SSD= 22 seconds HD= 1min 44sec...
There is something you didn't test is the gameplay smoothness when going from one area to another. Sad that Sony and AMD stuck with SATA I, but must have been about cutting costs. It seems the benefits of a SSD upgrade is rather negligible.
The thing abot SSDs is that they last longer, nice video Blaine, you always are very detailed, every time anyone asks me about modding i tell them about you and MrMario
I installed a ssd yesterday my personal experience my ps3 is very quiet 🤫 even restoring the data for 6 hours I never knew what it looked like to play a ps3 that didn't sound like a F-22 raptor off a runway I recommend it simply because it runs games smoother faster boot times honestly the hdd has a lot of issues with lag just pressing folders runs more seamless
Well I was planning to buy a SH PS3 to my brother and I was thinking of upgrading it with an SSD considering that it will be a moded PS3.The video was really useful .Gj !!
There's lots of posts on the internet saying this upgrade is not worth it, but if you look closely, the posts are really old or made by missinformed (and pedantic) people who get stuck up on advertised sequential read speeds. This isn't 2010 anymore, SSDs are easily available and 500GB drives are now cheap enough for the upgrade to be worth it.
I recently fell back in love with my PS3 slim. In celebration, I did a total disassemble, cleaning, thermal paste change, and 500GB SSD upgrade. Results for me were decreased loading times, cooler temperatures (which extends life), and nearly silent operations during intensive game play. If you have the time and money, do it!
Literally zero mention of drive health and longevity issues that an SSD faces on PS3, a system that does not even know what an SSD is. Disc based games in particular (unless it's COD, which breaks BR lasers instead) are constantly caching data on the drive instead of streaming directly from the disc. That means the SSD is constantly writing and erasing data as you are playing, the one thing that erodes SSDs and the PS3 does not even support TRIM. There is virtually no information out there on how PS3 handles SSDs in the long run. People in the PS3 dev community saying don't use them, Rebbitors saying they are the greatest thing ever with no downsides, people here blindly quoting said Rebbitors and then these videos with unironic Amazon links to go buy the things and no mention of their one major drawback.
@@cocaman1345 You're asking me questions i can't answer. What i can say is that i was forced to install an SSD a month or so after typing that and so far it works.
I've been using an SSD in my PS3 since 2010, just updated it last week with a 1TB SSD got for $70, gains in games are not huge, but the XMB is really smooth.
sir.i want ask change stock hdd PS3 or PS4 to new HDD/SSD and instal System PS3 and if something happen unexpected in new HDD/SSD when want change to old HDD PS3 i need do something? plug and play? no need reinstal system in old HDD?
My guess is upgrading to a faster hdd might be better considering the limitations of the SATA bis in the ps 3. I'm curious if things like the store load faster, if loading or saving a game is faster, etc.
@@tommytemper thanks for your reply, also I am facing stuttering issues on infamous 2, I am playing on a bluray DISC, will playing on HDD will fix stuttering ?
How much more snappy is the OS experience though? That’s what I’d like to see, the PS3 struggles sometimes because the OS got more bloated over the last 10 years than what the PS3 was perhaps intended to handle.
It will be faster, I dont knw why these tests gloss over boot up times or switching from game to game. They never show how slow the ps3 is when booting up. The OS is on the drive, so when its on an SSD it does everything faster. Even if people say theres minimal difference, when in reality it depends on what their doing. I like how the tests in this video didn't include a large game like GT5 or GT6. Those games the SSD benefits from as well.
with the looming shutdown of the PS3 playstation store, I am scouring the net for information on how to upgrade my ps3 hard drive. what I want to know is will the SSD upgrade work with a PS3 that is not modded. I read somewhere that that PS3 (with official firmware) can only read a max of 1TB hard drive and does not recognize USB 3.0 connection, but most of these articles or information I read are over 8 years old. there has been no update recent test with regards to the most recent firmware update from Sony. maybe you can enlighten me on this subject before I start buying HDD or SSD that i might potentially regret LOL i'm not really interested in modding my ps3 slim anytime soon, I just want to back up all the games I bought on PS3 Playstation Store as well the as the numerous updates to all the PS3 Games in my collection. Sorry for the long comment LOL thanks in advance and more power to your Channel
The assassins creed games benefit from an ssd quite a lot those loading scenes where you run about in a void load atleast 2x faster with an ssd i was very impressed when i switched over to one
An unorthadox idea but one to consider. When dumping PS2 and PS3 and if you dont have a Blu-Ray drive lying around, you can dump to a SSD while you do all that, then pull it out to back it up to the PC with the SATA 3 speeds, rather than the SATA 1 speeds of the HDD, even through FTP.
I bought an SSD fof my PS3 just for Demon Souls. Its night and day the difference in load times. I learned about it from speedrunner and yeah its amazing. Other games loading quicker and quieter was a bonus.
I have a ps3 jailbroken the problem I have it wen you turn it on it turn right back off sometimes I keep turning it on until it stays on but these time around my finger got tired pressing button
Your PS3 has a YLOD (Yellow Light of Death) issue. If you have a fat PS3, it might be that your PS3 capacitors NEC TOKINS need to be replaced. Does your PS3 stay on or does it also shut down after while you play?
games that have a lot of little files in the folder structure benefit greatly and online games load faster because its able to load online data that gets cached on the hdd/ssd and when u mount an iso on your ps3 it splits the job of the hdd because it loading from the iso and hdd/ssd when playing games that require hdd seek and Blu-ray access like gta v on ssd with mod menus is very solid
How did you make this video and not test level load times of digital downloads? That's where the vast majority of the benefit could potentially be had. How did you not think to download inFAMOUS (which everyone got for free when PSN got taken offline) and test load times between the two drives?
If you get the Samsung EVO SSD, the load times are drastic! When a new game is loaded for the last of us, it took only 9 seconds and a load game 8 seconds.
Its not the speed id be chasing more the fact that it's gonna have a larger capacity and the fact that it has no moving parts is gonna make the PS3 run sooooooo much cooler...
@@THElegoBUILDER5825 Gotcha. I have some "ancient" data (Some from as far back as 2006. Lol) and I'm looking to back up stuff from the old drives I have that data on. Not to mention I'm rebuilding a couple of old PS3s and I need all the sustainable help I can get. Lol. Thanks.
Fast forward to last night I picked up a 1TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD for $64 after tax from my local Best Buy. Totally worth it to replace the stock 320Gb HDD in my PS3 Slim even with the SATA I hardware bottleneck.
Does swapping from a mechanical HDD to a SATA SSD alleviate if not eliminate the occasional freezing issues that the PS3 is known for? And do SATA SSDs last longer than a mechanical HDD?
The biggest difference in load times will come from open world games and most games that came out late in the consoles lifecycle that have data installed on the drive prior to being playable. The differences will be even greater if your games are being ran 100% from the SSD/HDD rather you copy your disc via Multiman or buy off PSN. Ex: Launching GTA 5 from disc and my loaded 120GB stock HDD was taking 3 minutes to load into Franklin's house. With an SSD, it was ~2 minutes if I recall correctly. When I copied the game completely to the SSD, it took 55 seconds, which is roughly what it takes to load the PS4 version on the PS5's internal drive. A monumental difference. The differences will be marginal in most other cases it's true, but in this day and age you can a 1TB SSD for ~$60USD which is a steal compared to what I paid this time 2 years ago at $86. Almost no point in NOT getting one today
game with 1 big file will not benefit of latency of ssd , but game with a hundred of small file will benefit of low latency acces from ssd , it's depend of game programming, some game have also execution locked from cpu or speed locked for the spec of bluray in their coding , that why some game don"t benefit of ssd and game from era bluray ( without inslall pre 2011 ) are also programmed for the speed of bluray , when the last game ( era 2012 2017 ) have semi install for benefit of hard drive speed , and their loading speed can be reduce more with ssd ( ex : dead or alive 5 in ssd have almost no laoding time
Mine has much quicker load screens on skyrim since the upgrade. But it still freezes sometimes with multiman. No more Skyrim freezes YET. But I lost my save data due to a POS backup/restore feature on the PS3. Pretty sure the capacitors are going to need replaced as well.
Videogames are packs of hundreds/thousands of files, with that said hybrid drives or SSHD'S only copy to the SSD section the most used files (in the case of a PC that would be for example the OS and common used programs like google chrome), a console is made to play games, what you want if you wanna improve load times, reduce pop in etc is random write/read, thats where SSD'S shine, as they can access any file instantly where an HDD has to wait for the platters and the header to align the concrete sector, read/write in multiple passes etc, basically is really slow, even for the less common 10,000 rpm HDD's get nuked in performance by the cheapest SSD, even modern wifi is faster than that, not only that, but HDD's are mechanical, they WILL fail, due to wear and tear.
Do you happen to know what brand is ideal for reliability and quality of HDD for a PS3 Slim CECH-2101A with official firmware? I still play most of my games on disc and some digital; I find that I’m comfortable sticking with the HDD than SSD since performance is not an issue but storage. My PS3 still has the 120GB hard drive from the factory it’s 11 years old and still works with no issues for past 3 months since cleaning.
@@blainelocklair hard cap limit depends of the file system used, common break point is 2GB so if 1.5 TB works -my friend has one in 2TB shouldn't be the problem. However they were not common goods back when PS3 was made so it really only way to know is to try , some people reported problems with large capacity drives - but no one confirmed their drive was 100% was ok , meaning most of them were used/reclaimed form notebooks and they might developed bad sectors or had other issues. At this moment i don't have any of the drives above 1TB to test , so I may get back to You with that info.
Hi, thanks for the video. I upgraded to a SSD (Western Digital 1tb) and everything works great, but I can't play any more PS2 Games. When I try to launch them my PS3 turns off and the red power light starts flashing. Aparently it means there's an overheating problem. But how can this be an issue with this new SSD, and not with the old HDD? I'd appreciate any help you can give.
my ssd throw file Corruptions from time to time & im on 4.86 cfw rebug,so in the end ive put in an 1tb HDD & ive had no file Corruptions ever since & its an Cex J model,which is software emulation for ps2 games
@@blainelocklair yes there were from Ps2 iso's from discs & it would crash time from time,& had to restore database on the system,cos of it,but after i swapped it out to an 1tb hdd,it would work fine,but you try it,by loadin games frm ssd via rebug on 4.86 cfw & see if you come across the issue Blaine 😊
I just wanted to increase the size of my storage while also eliminating sound and heat from the drive area. The fact that there is even any difference in performance makes it totally worth it to me.
This is so true the heat which is a huge issue on the fats is made a little bit better and now that SSDs are dirt cheap it is worth it for sure.
Samee
@@BouncingZeusused to heat my room in winter with a phat lol
People also forget that the SSD doesn't make noise and produces very little heat. Two things that help your overall gaming experience.
Also its safer and more durable and long lasting
@@Leon_hm ssds dies faster
@@Anti-Yeet no credible source says that
@@saxtoncan you can just google it,and there is alot of videos talking about the exact subject
@@Anti-Yeet I agree there are more read/write limits on ssd. It’s why most security systems use mechanical drives.
And ssd may run cooler but they get crippled in a hot environment over the mechanical variety.
Ssd is far superior in terms of technical features of course. But people clearly turn blind eyes to the issues.
Ssd really comes down to the bottle neck of the system itself.
Iv got 3 original Xbox’s with the original 8gb drives in them they are doing just fine.
SATA 1 won't matter that much because it only affects sequential speeds, while SSD's biggest advantage over HDD's are random speeds (measured in IOPS). In short, the time it takes to jump between each little file is instantaneous, while HDD's had to physically move their head (needle) across the disk. This is what greatly improves overall speed in many tasks, regardless of the maximum sequential speed, or whether you are using NVME or SATA.
I am sure ps3 games are optimized for streaming rather than access time.
@@stephenxs8354 PS3 is "agnostic" to its storage to a certain degree, but I'm happy to learn more if you ellaborate.
Its CPU asks for a certain asset (like a small texture, that is loaded into the RAM and later managed by the GPU). And it's the storage (HDD/SSD) that looks for that particular file before loading it. SSD does this almost instantaneously. I have seen this with my eyes in the original RAGE game for example. So I don't deny that PS3 has other bottlenecks where SSD's can't totally help, but I'm very sure of this behaviour in PS3, PC's and other consoles as well.
Does it decrease heat? That makes it worth it to me lol
@@jesuschavez9110 Sí, un SSD SATA se calienta menos y consume menos que un disco duro. Aunque el cambio en el calor total del sistema es insignificante. También es mucho más silencioso y resistente al movimiento. Pero la mayor ventaja es que acelera el tiempo de arranque de la PS3 y la carga de los juegos instalados en el almacenamiento (un 30% más rápidos de media, a veces hasta el 50%). En algunos juegos el cambio es muy grande (GTA 5, Gran Turismo, Skyrim o RAGE).
Great detail on this! I'll be sure to link to it when people ask about getting a giant boost in performance on the PS3. Not particularly worth it to me, but people like to see numbers to match up to results.
Fancy seeing you here MrMario! Huge fan of your modding videos!!
However , In news of Sony shutting down PS3 Store in July2021, you should make a video about how to best prepare for this, as a legit ps3 games PSN owner , I'm very concerned about all the games i bought off PSN and the longevity of my HDD in regards to those games and updates in the near future.
Cheers !
From a a big fan 😌
@@Gameplayery Dude just mod your system to get any game you want lol
@@chrispena8186 i have modded 4 PS3's, but i also have a legitimate console with lots of games i bought off of psn with several hundred hours of gameplay saves, i'm no stranger to CFW haha, i guess I'm just a bit sad about PS3N going down after all these years :(
My super slim with PS3hen was always scanning for corrupted data, and that in particular is so much faster with an SSD that it was worth it for that alone.
The super slim will benefit from a ssd because of it's sata 2.
I upgraded my PS3 fat with Crucial SSD and it speeds up the system pretty well, mostly in open world games like GTA 5 or RDR, another great video. Thanks!
@@blainelocklair I am late, but Rage is not using Unreal, it is an Id tech engine.
The XMB menu is much more snappy when using a SSD. It's worth installing an SSD for that alone.
this is exactly why i was considering upgrading. i dont really care about game load times, its wierd he did not do some kind of xmb speed test. on mine it can get pretty sloggy when switching games or opening multiman etc. but thanks for the info, deff upgrading asap
That and SSDs are cheaper than ever. With the QLC stuff it's getting to the point where you can think about never using a spinning platter again
Games like fallout 3 it doesnt freeze anymore and framerates are more stable with ssd on ps3 very cool
@@at-cj2iy how about fallout new vegas?
@@makavelithedon9738 the same all games benefit from SSD no more random every half hour freezing on new Vegas, does not matter if you running it digital or from the disc you will see stable performance
Ssd stops texture pop in, and improves FPS and stability. system response is greatly improved, ssd literally makes the PS3 like a PS3 pro.
@ViciousDave4Life
All of that is true except for the part about having higher frame-rates. An SSD has nothing to do with the frame-rate and is strictly tied to the CPU/GPU of the console. But yes, an SSD in a PS3 is well worth it considering how cheap they are now. Most games are run off the disc anyway so an SSD is excellent to speed up the XMB, reduce texture pop-in and generally reduce power and heat consumption.
sir.i want ask change stock hdd PS3 or PS4 to new HDD/SSD and instal System PS3 and if something happen unexpected in new HDD/SSD when want change to old HDD PS3 i need do something? plug and play? no need reinstal system in old HDD?
 yes it should be plug and play with no issues🙏 so if your ssd dies by some form of bad luck, you can go back to your old hard drive right away.
@ViciousDave4Life what i must disable PS3? can you tell me? by way my PS3 is CFW not OFW
@@gunawangunawansantoso4122 turn it off
I upgraded my PS3 to SSD, stock firmware, not for faster loading, but a gentler power draw, and increased drive life.
that is why I am here.
I though HDD are supposed to last longer than SSD
@@TmpVideoNo. An SSD will always last longer then an HDD. Anyone who works on servers or IT will tell you that. A benefit of HDD is technically it is easier to fix an HDD then an SSD if it fails
I have an SSD in my CECHA01 (fully backwards compatible) mainly because it doesn’t produce as much heat but compared to my 2501b with its stock HDD, there really isn’t much of a difference, but it does seem a smidge bit smoother overall.
What brand SSD did you buy if you don’t mind me asking
i just bought an A01, what do you think i should do to it maintenance wise to start?
I would’ve loved to see Metal Gear Solid 4 over The Last of Us. MGS4 was the biggest game I’ve ever seen on a disc.
bruh....Tekken hybrid.....SIXTY GIGS 😂😂😂
@@home9dog2blue199 That’s not the biggest game I’ve ever seen, because I never played it genius.
Thanks for this video. I recently modified 2 PS3 Slim consoles using your video, so much easier than the first PS3 mod using another person's video. Well, this here helped tremendously. I was contemplating if I should go SSD or HDD, but your video helped me decide. Going to stick to getting HDD 1 TB....less expensive and it performs just about the same... Thanks Mr. Blaine!!!!
the only reason it's not loading as fast as expected is because there are certain animations in between each load time, it first has to finish each animation before actually loading, and not only that but there is alot more that an SSD does to a PS3 than just load times stand alone
Blaine you should have ten million subscribers. Great videos, informative and helpful. Really amazing
Discussion of the SSD and PS3 starts at 2:20
It annoying when people do not get to the point. Thanks for letting me know...
Blaine, awesome video. Everything was explained well and it was very engaging to watch...even though I don’t have a PS3 haha
GTA V was nearly unplayable without me putting an SSD in. whole buildings would pop in just a block down the street with the old hdd.
I appreciate your content so much man. Keep making us happy ❤️ I don't normally act nice online so you know I'm deadass
Your jailbreak video was spot on, and you are really doing well
@@blainelocklair will a hard drive swap mess with the jailbreak? would i have to do the whole process all over?
I personally did a 1TB Samsung SSD today for some downloaded games from the PlayStation network. Mortal Kombat 2 plays great! the PS1 games load pretty much as normal. Games like Silent Hill, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, and Dino Crisis having different resolutions in menus, load, and play as normal. If you have the discs it'll play as emulation.
the store loads fast which was a surprise. It's also quieter I'm guessing due to the HDD being one of the culprits.
If you have a spare drive go for it. 500GB is plenty for games if you want a fresh drive.
What about console load time?
How u have mk2
@@Daevoz it's downloadable from PSN I've had it for years.
@@marijanmilinovic303 it's quick by a few seconds less than an HDD. I've never really tested it personally.
@@Exmachinagamma oh I don’t think it’s on ps store anymore
I know these are made and sold in the tens of millions, so every bit of cost cutting makes a difference, but the PS3 having SATA 1 and the PS4 having SATA 2 is bizarre to me..
If PS3 could read data from the hard drive @ 150 MB/s then it would fill the RAM in 3 seconds.... the reality is it reads at about 30 MB/s max. SSD can give better performance in some games like Gran Turismo 6 because it handles small files better (and GT6 has 50 000 small files, LOL)
O SSD também ajuda na velocidade de renderização em alguns casos, o GTA V no meu ps3 super slim ficava dando bugs de texturas e de render, quando troquei para o SSD esses problemas sumiram, e o jogo ficou muito mais rápido em seus loadings. Até o Shadow of Mordor melhorou bastante em loadings e renderização de campo.
It would be nice if you tested loading times using OFW with DVD and using CFW when whole DVD is placed as ISO on the ssd drive. This would be meaningful comparison, please :)
I thought about doing this, but I think that I want to just go the flash drive route and store/play the files directly from USB instead. 1tb flash drives are dropping in price these days and you can get as many as you need to create a massive collection library. I'm also not too worried about the xmb loading a second faster.
Playing directly from flash drives also won't last very long at all, so I read
I saw a video of another youtuber that made the same experiment with a complete SSD installation of GTA V - from press start to the actual gameplay: SSD= 22 seconds HD= 1min 44sec...
There is something you didn't test is the gameplay smoothness when going from one area to another. Sad that Sony and AMD stuck with SATA I, but must have been about cutting costs. It seems the benefits of a SSD upgrade is rather negligible.
The thing abot SSDs is that they last longer, nice video Blaine, you always are very detailed, every time anyone asks me about modding i tell them about you and MrMario
I installed a ssd yesterday my personal experience my ps3 is very quiet 🤫 even restoring the data for 6 hours I never knew what it looked like to play a ps3 that didn't sound like a F-22 raptor off a runway I recommend it simply because it runs games smoother faster boot times honestly the hdd has a lot of issues with lag just pressing folders runs more seamless
I converted my 120 GB PS3 Slim to a 500 GB WD Blue SSD and it is amazing. Much faster load times. No issues with Rebug.
Can you link me your SSD drive that you are using for PS3? I would like to buy it as well, thank you
@@enisato Bro just get a recent Crucial ssd. They're great!
@@hamajangz9586 I'm using crucial too, they are so fast
What about console load time?
@@marijanmilinovic303 Console load time is also fast.
NEXT VIDEO please:
How to play PS1 ISOs or PKG on PS3 super slim version HEN users.
Ok, Checking out the upgrade video. I want an SSD in mine. ;) Great vid!
Well I was planning to buy a SH PS3 to my brother and I was thinking of upgrading it with an SSD considering that it will be a moded PS3.The video was really useful .Gj !!
Thanks for actually running the tests!
Thanks a whole lot for all your videos Blaine!!!
There's lots of posts on the internet saying this upgrade is not worth it, but if you look closely, the posts are really old or made by missinformed (and pedantic) people who get stuck up on advertised sequential read speeds. This isn't 2010 anymore, SSDs are easily available and 500GB drives are now cheap enough for the upgrade to be worth it.
I recently fell back in love with my PS3 slim. In celebration, I did a total disassemble, cleaning, thermal paste change, and 500GB SSD upgrade.
Results for me were decreased loading times, cooler temperatures (which extends life), and nearly silent operations during intensive game play.
If you have the time and money, do it!
i did it and you should also jb your ps3
I for the life of me can't find a guide for disassemble of the PS3 slim model I have and I don't trust myself to clean it out without one
This made me feel really glad I bought a 1tb HDD instead of a 1tb SSD
Great stuff. Thanks Blaine.
Thanks for doing this, been curious about this.
Literally zero mention of drive health and longevity issues that an SSD faces on PS3, a system that does not even know what an SSD is. Disc based games in particular (unless it's COD, which breaks BR lasers instead) are constantly caching data on the drive instead of streaming directly from the disc. That means the SSD is constantly writing and erasing data as you are playing, the one thing that erodes SSDs and the PS3 does not even support TRIM.
There is virtually no information out there on how PS3 handles SSDs in the long run. People in the PS3 dev community saying don't use them, Rebbitors saying they are the greatest thing ever with no downsides, people here blindly quoting said Rebbitors and then these videos with unironic Amazon links to go buy the things and no mention of their one major drawback.
What if I use ssd for only downloaded games?
@@cocaman1345 You're asking me questions i can't answer. What i can say is that i was forced to install an SSD a month or so after typing that and so far it works.
Thank you for this worckbench
This really is the best video on comparison speeds.
It's worth it just for less heat and less noise. But downloaded games do load faster. About 10-20% for me. An SSD will max out your performance.
I've been using an SSD in my PS3 since 2010, just updated it last week with a 1TB SSD got for $70, gains in games are not huge, but the XMB is really smooth.
What about console load time?
Since 2010? i kinda call bs
It Worth, a ssd is always the best Choice and in todays totaly payable
sir.i want ask change stock hdd PS3 or PS4 to new HDD/SSD and instal System PS3 and if something happen unexpected in new HDD/SSD when want change to old HDD PS3 i need do something? plug and play? no need reinstal system in old HDD?
SSDs need to drop in price before they can become a serious consideration.
ssds are the same price as mechanical ones now
@only philip very close actually, check it out now.
I payed about $185 for 1 Tb SSD about 3 years ago I want get another one soon seens prices as come down
They are very affordable now compared to 5 years ago, I’d say they’re already at prices most would consider fair
SSDs are pretty cheap now
My guess is upgrading to a faster hdd might be better considering the limitations of the SATA bis in the ps 3. I'm curious if things like the store load faster, if loading or saving a game is faster, etc.
After checking and seeing that 2.5 drives are actually more expensive then their SSD counterpart in my country it's a no brainer, less heat too
Any PS3 game that ran poorly in my experience runs a lot better when on the HDD. I got my SSD evo 870 1tb with a lot of games on it 😎
You mean I f I play the game on HDD is smooth instead of playing it on bluray lens with a disc
@@talhasohail6529 100%
@@tommytemper thanks for your reply, also I am facing stuttering issues on infamous 2, I am playing on a bluray DISC, will playing on HDD will fix stuttering ?
@@talhasohail6529 This is my other channel, see 1st hand how it runs 🥊🥊
@@talhasohail6529 Uncheck 1080p on the video output. Very few games run properly at 1080p.
How much more snappy is the OS experience though? That’s what I’d like to see, the PS3 struggles sometimes because the OS got more bloated over the last 10 years than what the PS3 was perhaps intended to handle.
It will be faster, I dont knw why these tests gloss over boot up times or switching from game to game. They never show how slow the ps3 is when booting up. The OS is on the drive, so when its on an SSD it does everything faster. Even if people say theres minimal difference, when in reality it depends on what their doing. I like how the tests in this video didn't include a large game like GT5 or GT6. Those games the SSD benefits from as well.
I'm tempted to do this since I have an extra SSD lying around completely unused rn
with the looming shutdown of the PS3 playstation store, I am scouring the net for information on how to upgrade my ps3 hard drive.
what I want to know is will the SSD upgrade work with a PS3 that is not modded. I read somewhere that that PS3 (with official firmware) can only read a max of 1TB hard drive and does not recognize USB 3.0 connection, but most of these articles or information I read are over 8 years old. there has been no update recent test with regards to the most recent firmware update from Sony.
maybe you can enlighten me on this subject before I start buying HDD or SSD that i might potentially regret LOL i'm not really interested in modding my ps3 slim anytime soon, I just want to back up all the games I bought on PS3 Playstation Store as well the as the numerous updates to all the PS3 Games in my collection.
Sorry for the long comment LOL
thanks in advance and more power to your Channel
Thanks man, this was useful, I just so happen to have a spare ssd with larger size capacity, I'm gonna do it 🤘🏼
Now test with fast 2.5" mechanical hdd. 5400 and 7200rpm.
The assassins creed games benefit from an ssd quite a lot those loading scenes where you run about in a void load atleast 2x faster with an ssd i was very impressed when i switched over to one
Loved Tron Evolution.
I'm guessing this will benefit me with a soft modded system loading PS1 and PS2 ROMs of the main system drive?
@@blainelocklair Should do
An unorthadox idea but one to consider.
When dumping PS2 and PS3 and if you dont have a Blu-Ray drive lying around, you can dump to a SSD while you do all that, then pull it out to back it up to the PC with the SATA 3 speeds, rather than the SATA 1 speeds of the HDD, even through FTP.
Nice video.....thank you.
I bought an SSD fof my PS3 just for Demon Souls. Its night and day the difference in load times. I learned about it from speedrunner and yeah its amazing. Other games loading quicker and quieter was a bonus.
I have a ps3 jailbroken the problem I have it wen you turn it on it turn right back off sometimes I keep turning it on until it stays on but these time around my finger got tired pressing button
Your PS3 has a YLOD (Yellow Light of Death) issue. If you have a fat PS3, it might be that your PS3 capacitors NEC TOKINS need to be replaced.
Does your PS3 stay on or does it also shut down after while you play?
@@ChillZi86 I have this same issue. It was reballed and installed a much louder fan. It worked for a while, now it turns off as soon as I turn it on
@@ChillZi86 wen it finally stayed on sometimes it will say system heated up
@@billyjoseph3376 maybe you need to open it and replace the thermalpaste. Also sounds like there is much dust in your Fan.
@@PhyA52 reballing is only a temporary solution. In your case it is definitively the nec tokin capacitors. They need to be replaced.
Hello mr blaine, what about the heat on the system?? Is it stable?
games that have a lot of little files in the folder structure benefit greatly and online games load faster because its able to load online data that gets cached on the hdd/ssd and when u mount an iso on your ps3 it splits the job of the hdd because it loading from the iso and hdd/ssd when playing games that require hdd seek and Blu-ray access like gta v on ssd with mod menus is very solid
Ok, I am watching all your ps2, ps3 and ps4 videos
I wonder if there’s improvements to PS1 games bought on the PSN store.
Is there a significant increase in copying speeds from a usb thumb drive to an ssd in the ps3?
How did you make this video and not test level load times of digital downloads? That's where the vast majority of the benefit could potentially be had. How did you not think to download inFAMOUS (which everyone got for free when PSN got taken offline) and test load times between the two drives?
Does having an ssd kinda improves fps
Yes it does. And it stops all stutters and texture pop in.
@@Tanzu15 makes sense, now I gotta buy a ssd
Why wouldn’t you see how long it takes to load into the game?
there is not only speed who is important but the latency of ssd help a lot even at 150 mb it's still faster for the game with many small file on ps3
Phenomenal video
If you get the Samsung EVO SSD, the load times are drastic! When a new game is loaded for the last of us, it took only 9 seconds and a load game 8 seconds.
Its not the speed id be chasing more the fact that it's gonna have a larger capacity and the fact that it has no moving parts is gonna make the PS3 run sooooooo much cooler...
Great video
Hello! Great video, I've been looking for a guide for a SSD in a PS3!
Can the PS3 accept larger drives? Like 2tb?
Theoretically, yes
But only 1TB is accessible
1.5t usable if you use a 2tb drive.
This was amazing. I did want to confirm don't SSD hold up over time better than HDD or am I mistaken?
Late reply but yeah they should, less worrying about magnetic damage to a hard drive too.
@@THElegoBUILDER5825 Gotcha. I have some "ancient" data (Some from as far back as 2006. Lol) and I'm looking to back up stuff from the old drives I have that data on. Not to mention I'm rebuilding a couple of old PS3s and I need all the sustainable help I can get. Lol. Thanks.
Is the PS3 SS compatible with an SSD?i need more storage and want to mod it
Super Saiyain?
I think a better test would be to use a known heavy load, too. Say, entering a stage.
my ps3 super slim 2tb is not working is their a limit with ps3?
Fast forward to last night I picked up a 1TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD for $64 after tax from my local Best Buy. Totally worth it to replace the stock 320Gb HDD in my PS3 Slim even with the SATA I hardware bottleneck.
The PS3's SATA connections are pretty ancient.
was your test using a 5400 rpm hdd or a 7200 rpm hdd?
Does swapping from a mechanical HDD to a SATA SSD alleviate if not eliminate the occasional freezing issues that the PS3 is known for? And do SATA SSDs last longer than a mechanical HDD?
The biggest difference in load times will come from open world games and most games that came out late in the consoles lifecycle that have data installed on the drive prior to being playable. The differences will be even greater if your games are being ran 100% from the SSD/HDD rather you copy your disc via Multiman or buy off PSN.
Ex: Launching GTA 5 from disc and my loaded 120GB stock HDD was taking 3 minutes to load into Franklin's house. With an SSD, it was ~2 minutes if I recall correctly. When I copied the game completely to the SSD, it took 55 seconds, which is roughly what it takes to load the PS4 version on the PS5's internal drive. A monumental difference.
The differences will be marginal in most other cases it's true, but in this day and age you can a 1TB SSD for ~$60USD which is a steal compared to what I paid this time 2 years ago at $86. Almost no point in NOT getting one today
game with 1 big file will not benefit of latency of ssd , but game with a hundred of small file will benefit of low latency acces from ssd , it's depend of game programming, some game have also execution locked from cpu or speed locked for the spec of bluray in their coding , that why some game don"t benefit of ssd and game from era bluray ( without inslall pre 2011 ) are also programmed for the speed of bluray , when the last game ( era 2012 2017 ) have semi install for benefit of hard drive speed , and their loading speed can be reduce more with ssd ( ex : dead or alive 5 in ssd have almost no laoding time
Mine has much quicker load screens on skyrim since the upgrade. But it still freezes sometimes with multiman. No more Skyrim freezes YET. But I lost my save data due to a POS backup/restore feature on the PS3. Pretty sure the capacitors are going to need replaced as well.
Upgrading to a seagate barracuda 500gb or 1tb should me fine
Does change to ssd will improve ps3 fps game?
For an old hardware like the ps3, it's worth to use an hybrid hdd instead of an proper ssd?.
Videogames are packs of hundreds/thousands of files, with that said hybrid drives or SSHD'S only copy to the SSD section the most used files (in the case of a PC that would be for example the OS and common used programs like google chrome), a console is made to play games, what you want if you wanna improve load times, reduce pop in etc is random write/read, thats where SSD'S shine, as they can access any file instantly where an HDD has to wait for the platters and the header to align the concrete sector, read/write in multiple passes etc, basically is really slow, even for the less common 10,000 rpm HDD's get nuked in performance by the cheapest SSD, even modern wifi is faster than that, not only that, but HDD's are mechanical, they WILL fail, due to wear and tear.
So if you run the games from using an actual disc copy an SSD isnt worth it? But worth it if you store games on the SSD drive
I think the best drives for ps3's are 7200rpm hdd and SSHD (faster than hdd but not ssd speed)
The cheapest ssds come close to that so not worth it in most cases.
Do you happen to know what brand is ideal for reliability and quality of HDD for a PS3 Slim CECH-2101A with official firmware? I still play most of my games on disc and some digital; I find that I’m comfortable sticking with the HDD than SSD since performance is not an issue but storage. My PS3 still has the 120GB hard drive from the factory it’s 11 years old and still works with no issues for past 3 months since cleaning.
wd black.
Is there a max hdd size that the ps3 can handle? 2Tb, 3Tb etc
@@blainelocklair hard cap limit depends of the file system used, common break point is 2GB so if 1.5 TB works -my friend has one in 2TB shouldn't be the problem. However they were not common goods back when PS3 was made so it really only way to know is to try , some people reported problems with large capacity drives - but no one confirmed their drive was 100% was ok , meaning most of them were used/reclaimed form notebooks and they might developed bad sectors or had other issues. At this moment i don't have any of the drives above 1TB to test , so I may get back to You with that info.
Could you please make a video on how to download games on PS3 slim after jailbreak?
Hi, thanks for the video. I upgraded to a SSD (Western Digital 1tb) and everything works great, but I can't play any more PS2 Games. When I try to launch them my PS3 turns off and the red power light starts flashing. Aparently it means there's an overheating problem. But how can this be an issue with this new SSD, and not with the old HDD?
I'd appreciate any help you can give.
hold up so it doesn't work anymore, did you end up fixing it?
It'll also make your console more quiet and some kindda less power consumption.
interesting findings. I wonder if it would be any faster transferring files from PC to PS3 over FTP via ethernet with an SSD over a HDD.
but what about PSN games? Like, The Last Guy, Siren, Yakuza 5, etc Games that don't have a disc? Would the SSD be more beneficial in those scenarios?
Every game you can run on ps3 your ssd will help it run faster.
my ssd throw file Corruptions from time to time & im on 4.86 cfw rebug,so in the end ive put in an 1tb HDD & ive had no file Corruptions ever since & its an Cex J model,which is software emulation for ps2 games
@@blainelocklair yes there were from Ps2 iso's from discs & it would crash time from time,& had to restore database on the system,cos of it,but after i swapped it out to an 1tb hdd,it would work fine,but you try it,by loadin games frm ssd via rebug on 4.86 cfw & see if you come across the issue Blaine 😊
Will this work on a PS3 phat backwards compatibility model?